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Episode 30 - Connecting With Dany Garcia Via LinkedIn?

Happy Friday morning, everybody out there. This is the XFL Markcast. How's everybody doing? Hopefully you're doing well. Hopefully, you're not as, hopefully you're more impatient for news as we are here. Right. I'll tell you, Paul. This is one of those weeks. I don't like to talk about it too much personal stuff on the podcast, but I was, I was sitting there today. I was thinking. I could really use a wind right now. I was really used to when. So, you know, We're doing the Lord's work here. Ding, the bell, you know, I'm, I'm really working to get all this XFL news. You know, if you've ever thought to yourself, how can I brighten Reed's day? Yeah. Just a thumbs up on the YouTube video today as subscribe on YouTube. It would be very much appreciated that we're at our episode last week. Horrendous radians to talk inside baseball is I blame that the XFL hat. But two weeks ago, we're almost at 400 views for that video. And it would, it would put me over the moon if we could get even close to that this week, I've got a lot of work today to put in for this right now. So if you appreciate kind of the. Football staff. I got XFL. I got spring league. I got fan controlled football today. I really would put me over the moon to get a thumbs up or subscribe on the YouTube channel. Look, and I, I ha I am. Privy to the stuff that's going on with me right now. So please. Like read, put so much effing. I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say it. But, you know what I mean? Like I can emphasize that I can't emphasize that word. Enough, like. I get upset thinking about some of the stuff. Sometimes I get upset for read for what he's going through. So please. Help my friend out. He's one of my best friends, even though I give him crap a lot. One of my few best friends, like in my inner circle. I'm telling you, like, I'm not just saying this to like boost your ego. I'm saying this, I would really like to cheer one of my best friends up. Please subscribe, like watch, watch our content. It would help. It would help us out. It would brighten bright nudes day. It would put me over the moon. I was talking with Mark Perry. The owner of XFL, new 70 day, the leading XFL news website. And he, he posted in the group. You guys. Does anyone have any article ideas for today? I said, no, but I've got about four pages and stuff. I'm going to talk to Paul about tonight. So when that, when the owner of the leading XFL website. Is, and no offense to Mark. I mean, Mark does, you know, But, but when, when marks. I go, I put a ton of work in today. I really hope you guys appreciate it. I was going to joke about this and then we both have had stressful days. I was going to say. I feel like I'm actually so good at doing content now that once, like the accent felonies actually comes that we might go on the wheelhouse schedule and do like two episodes. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Follow involved. Murder me, but anyway, We got, we got a lot of stuff today. And the breaking news, th this is exciting. I wanted to see if you get a kick out of this too. This is going to be the title of the episode. I don't ask me why I was going through my, my LinkedIn today, my LinkedIn notifications, I added XFL Mark hast to my LinkedIn this week. I was trying to connect with some XFL folks on LinkedIn. And today I noticed I had a view from a CEO slash executive director in the sports industry. Very cool. And so I took a screenshot and I tweeted the Danny Garcia. I said, Hey, add Danny Garcia that you question Mark. I'm just saying it could be connecting with Danny Garcia via LinkedIn. Do you think I'm often thinking that that could potentially be Danny Garcia connecting with me? I'm not saying you're off, I'm saying. It's a coin flip, like there's a 50, 50 chance. It's Danny. And there's not that many CEO, executive directors. I actually signed that for you a LinkedIn premium tonight. Like you can do a free trial just to see if I could really see who. Who it was, but, so where are the God you look at my Twitter. So that's going to be the title of the episode is connecting with Danny Garcia. Via LinkedIn. Question Mark. Because we can't assume anything. Well, I I'm going to play. I already made the graphics and there's no question, Mark. Right. Anyway. To recap from last week, Mark is now wearing the XFL hat with me in solidarity on his podcast, the XFL black Friday hat until we have XFL news. Okay. I don't have one of these hats. So I can't wear with you academies. You know, It's figuring out something though. Yeah. I think what I want to do is I want to like put a monitor over my shoulder and have the graphic up. That'd be kinda cool. I think that. I mean, I cast graphic. Yeah. The podcast graphic. And then of course, you know, when I do wheelhouse, I can flip it over to wheelhouse. Of course. I like that you have the wheelhouse down there. Behind you right now. I do. I do. And I've got the, you know, documentary poster. M me over here. There's an Emmy right there. Yeah. So Paul did this first story tonight. This was sent in by listener Jaan I think that's how you pronounce it. J H N. I'm going to ask you your opinion on this. You're you're coming into this cold. I want you to look at this link and I want you to tell me, is, is the XFL hiring? Is this a legitimate job search posting from the XFL? They posted it on February 24th. It's it's a legit thing. So this was sent in, I believe over the weekend, John connected with us on Facebook. He's a listener and he was doing some job searching stuff, and you can do this yourself right now. If you go to Google. You type in XFL jobs on a Google. Google does. You know, job search and there's a bunch of 'em and I know like, you know, their stuff and it shows stuff like anything over a month old, it just shows is like over a month. So it could have been from like, you know, two years ago, but there was a job posting, it was like three, three or four days ago when I saw it. And now it's like nine days ago because of. You know, time, whatever. The description is still old XFL. So it's like, you know, launching in 2020, be a part of yada yada, yada you know, the exciting. Re-invention of sports, whatever they kind of, the jargon, the X values. But it was posted for a Houston creative job opening four days ago or nine days ago now. But before days ago on that side, Oh, so is this for the Houston team or is this for the entire XFL? I have no idea. Hmm. I just, you know, and I hate getting on this. You know, I get messages all the time about all this stuff and be in marks and reading and all this kind of stuff. But I did think this was at least interesting to ask your opinion about, because I don't know. I mean, and I posted it. Didn't get a lot of traction on Twitter when I posted it. I just said, Hey, like this got sent in. What do people think and people didn't have a lot to talk about. So I wanted to ask you, well, The posting date is the real thing that sticks out. It was posted on February 24th of this year. Not in 2020, not in 2019 this year. This was posted. Days ago a week, like a week ago. Yup. So this is something that's moving now. So we have some news, we have some breadcrumbs as the weird conspiracy theorists would like you to. They say about their things. We have some breadcrumbs here. They post this recently, they're looking for, they're looking for an actual director. I know some people in Houston that might be interested in this. Pipeline labs. I think it's like a job searching place, a content director. Content director XFL Houston. Yeah, like you said, posted February 24th, 2021, Nancy. Like all the text in there is weird. Cause it's all coming back into 2020 when they kicks off. I, you know, it's the same old jargon from before. But it's got the company profile actually valid and you can apply for this. I mean, if someone really wanted to, I don't really have the time right now. But you can, you can go into the bottom and you can click apply now. I think the biggest thing that stands out to me right now that I'm realizing is that it says XFL Houston. And not XFL. Or Houston roughnecks. Yeah, I mean, Might be something that, I mean, you do, people accuse, you might accuse you of reading into things. I might be reading that and saying, they're going to change the name of that team. It could be. I've seen a lot of people and we're going to get into this kind of with our next couple of stories too. I saw a whole thread this week talking about, you know, why are we, we heard news all this. So many people still are relating this back to the, to the logo trademark. And I cannot imagine that that is, that is the reason why they're holding off on news right now. I cannot imagine that the fricking Eastern roughnecks stupid Derrick logo or whatever is the reason why I don't think it is. I think it's, I think they're waiting on the NFL to figure out what the ass they're going to do with this season, with the, and we're going to get into the news here with week 17, and they're going to be adding the Monday night football game and all this kinds of stuff. That's what I think it is. I don't think it has anything in the world to do with the lawsuit. And I think that that's part of it they're dealing with. But I don't think that, that I think, yeah, they're just waiting on the schedule to come up. But anyway, I just saw this, John, John sent this in or Yon, sorry. Correct us Yon. John, John, whatever it is just correct us. Just send us a message. But he, you know, he basically said, Hey, it looks like they're filling some jobs on the DL. I mean, I know we still have the CFO search going on. I know they're still looking for that, but you know, it can't mean that you can't find some other people in the meantime. So I just thought that was interesting that the title was going to be at the top of the episode was going to be, is he XFL hiring question Mark, but I didn't have anything good to make for the thumbnail. So I thought Danny Garcia and LinkedIn was a lot more interesting, but there. Moving on. Do you want to cover the XML story or do you want to cover this Disney? NFL deal. Well, I want to cover that first. This is just our luck. We do a whole segment on the ESPN, Disney, NFL, all this kind of stuff. Like the second we get done recording. Second, the episode gets published. Oh yeah. ESPN Disney can do a deal with the NFL, with everything. But this all relates to the media, you know, the value of the NFL for the networks moving into next year, which I would believe also relates to what the XFL could potentially be getting for their stuff. I do I D I kind of copied some of the staff here. Do you see what we got talking about? Oh, yeah, I do see that. That's interesting that ABC is possible. Is going to get the super bowl again. Cause since 2006, it's always only been CBS, NBC and Fox. Yep. Yeah. ABC is going to get back into the rotation of getting the Superbowl. That's great. That must've been, that must've been what, put it over the top where. Just these, like, we're not going to pay that much money. And then if I was like, okay, we'll give you the super bowl every four years. Put it over the top. Yeah. And we thought that last week that basically the NFL wanted Disney, basically the global 100% to double it was going to be double the rights. You know, to sign this new contract and it says on here, it hasn't been finalized yet. This is, this is expected to close. The, the article reached out to the NFL media people. Alex. A wreath Miller. And he said that they don't negotiate, you know, through the media, there will be no further comment, ESPN decline, but it does seem like they're going to be paying about 20% increase. I get to get this, but that is going to include like a Monday night football game. And they're going to get. You know, some other highlights and stuff throughout the year. So, I mean, Yeah, NFL ratings were down this year, but they're still commanding, you know, At least a 20% in the case of Disney. And then they said it's still 100%. If you go down. CBS and Fox, they're going to be keeping their packages and basically doubling pain. Around $2 billion. For their, for their packages going into next year. And that's, that's. That's a, that's not a chunk of change. $8 Billion. Hey, let's see. Eight, 8.6. Yeah. $8.6 Billion. Combined. Right with everything. With all four networks. Yep. Yeah. And they talked about Thursday night. Football is going to move from Fox, Amazon prime and NFL network, which is interesting. And yet they did the whole, like Amazon prime. T tester this year, it was the Cardinals and the 49ers. I watched it. I didn't like having to switch over to my X-Box to get my Amazon prime Morgan, but you know, it, it seemed to be really popular. They were able to offer a lot more options with that, with alternative commentary and stats and everything. So if Amazon's getting into that, there's been a lot of speculation that the XFL could go to the streaming site. You seem perplexed. You said you've used your X-Box for Amazon prime. I did. Yeah. Did you have Apple TV? Yeah, it wasn't working. I had just gotten my X-Box series ass and I was like, Oh, I can use it to watch. X-Box. To watch Amazon prime. Okay. I guess. Okay. My question here is. Are we going to get any more into games on Nickelodeon? And I didn't like him. I honestly did not like the Nickelodeon games. I loved the Nickelodeon games. I know you do. Are we going to get any Nickelodeon games? I'll tell you it was a huge success for them. I think they, I can't remember the ratings now and I know that's a terrible thing to say. I was like, well, I don't remember now, but it did good ratings. People were invested neighborly saying good morning football did the commentary on there with a couple of Nick people. Neighbor listens in the news. FYI because. No. No. Because Baker Mayfield is trending right now. Cause he saw a UFO. And then Nate Burleson came out and said that he also saw UFO. And so then there was the talk of the thing today. Who's the, the guy I chase Crawford that, that sports analysis guy [unknown]. He just got reassigned for a new contract. Chase Crawford. Right. It's not chase Crawford. It's. Oh, my gosh, this is going to be terrible at van for a minute. I gotta, I gotta find this chase Crawford as American actor, his, his sister was like, Chase Crawford was in his sister's in Candice Crawford. Wasn't Candace Crawford married to like. Someone like Romo. Yeah. Camera's rolling. Candice Crawford, chase Crawford. Sister is Marilyn. Colin coward. Colin County. Oh gosh. Right. You said he just signed a new bank. He decided the new big media day. So he was going off today, talking all about how Baker Mayfield saw UFO. And he goes, he goes, Joe Montana, Troy Aikman at Terry Bradshaw and Tom Brady have never seen aliens. I would prefer my guys QB is not to talk about it. And then Tom Brady retweeted them and said, how do you know? I've never seen aliens, Collin. Once Tom Brady. Or when he said this, I think he, Tom Brady post Superbowl Buccaneers, Tom Brady is. It's making him likable. Like, I didn't like him before. And I thought he was a jerk, like the way he treated Richard German, that whole story. Like if you haven't heard the rigid German, Tom Brady story. Look it up. Tom Brady was a jerk to Richard Sherman and then the Seahawks beat. And then it got really salty for Tom. So I like this new post. Tampa Bay winning Tom. Yeah. He's he's he's, he's being more of a personality now. Which is good. He's thinking about life after football clearly. So talking about this. So there's a report. I, again, this, all this all is going to relate here to the next story. So Monday night football apparently is going to add a wild card game this year and the week 17, which. I think, and I'm going to want to play this audio next from sport echo. It should just be a Twitter link to play it just a second. But again, this all relates to the XFL where they have to know when the super bowl is going to end, unless they're going to launch in like mid April. They have to know when that super bowl is going to be. And it is really interesting actually, because we're a, we do this yellow wedding show every year as videography. And they've had the postpone this year, the next year. And Howard, the guy that owns the show was trying to schedule it after the super bowl. And so he's doing it the week after it would be. And I called him, I go, Hey, how are they? Just so you know, The Superbowl might not actually be that weekend next year. You know what I mean? Because we're all assuming this, the same calendar and the weeks and all that. But if they add this week 17 and the, and the extra bi-week or whatever, it's gonna, you know, it's just going to push everything along. So what do you, I mean, when you think about them adding that extra week, and this month, I liked the idea of a Monday night football wildcard game. I like that. I don't like the week 17 thing. Like they've already got a perfect schedule where you like play the right amount of teams. You play every team in your division twice. You play every team in one division in the UFC. Once you play every team in the NFC division, in the other, like, like the matchup NFC and AFC. It's just a perfect schedule. Why mess it up with a week 17 game where it's just some random team you're going to throw in there? I don't, I don't like it. Well, and also you get to the point where, you know, you're already arresting guys near the end of the season. You're already, you know, you're sitting back like you're sitting the whole Steelers. You're sitting in the whole chiefs. You're sitting on all these teams. Then he decided to go on the track today. What is it going to do? There's gonna be a quarterback coach. What is he doing? Doing Jeff. Jeff render the chef. Jeff magliocchetti tweet. Yeah. He said the same thing. He goes, well, why did they send it in for? I said, To throw the rock. What do you think Ben's going to do? For one year. You gotta be mentoring someone. That's that's the only way this is going to work. What is 40 amazing Rudolph, right? Is he isn't isn't real off the future. He's the future. No, I don't think he was a future. They're going to draft someone or they're going to like, I don't know. Healers got nothing right now. I mean, it's yeah, they need it. They need something right now to get by. But anyway, I think the 17 week 17, I think you're getting greedy and other, trying to make up for the money from the COVID salary caps are down. All this up. So this all relates to the question. This whole rambling read, where the hell are we going? What is a future broadcast value for the XFL? There is a great part of the V. Audio podcasts from sport, a code that they post on Twitter this week, Paul is going to play it. And we're going to talk about it. We have the NFL. In rights fee negotiations, and we already know they're going to get a boatload of money. We have the NHL having rights fee negotiations. And I think we know for the NHL. 200 Mil per I think right now that are, they're going to get a boatload of money. Let me stop you right there. ESPN, please bring NHL back to your service. Thank you much more than they're getting right now. Where does the XFL fit in? What role will Dwayne Johnson play? Does he take. A reality show to the network in conjunction with the football league to help it. How much Willy flex? No pun intended. And leverage what he can bring besides the football league, but, you know, besides his personality, because his shows like the Titan games or whatever it is on NBC did well. So I'm just wondering what is the future of as a broadcast property and, you know, That they will be innovative, cutting edge. I I'm foreseeing Mike's on players. Hard on social. Exactly what we think. New leagues digital first leagues ought to be, but they want all that in conjunction with a linear TV contract, which is going to pay real money. That's. There you go. So what do you think about that? Well, your flex joke, we have a thing on wheelhouse. When you, when you make a joke, that's not funny. We just do this. That means your jokes, not funny. Well, you gotta, you know, I mean the rock we are are one of our highest rated episodes ever. The rock wears tight shirts. So I mean, clearly, clearly there's a, there's a family demographic here for people that like him flexing. Packaging. Yeah. I mean, I think over the top of services, what's going to happen here. I really do. And we're talking about, you know, It's interesting because we, we talked about the rock. The WWE has moved over to peacock, apparently official. Like now it's all over. They couldn't make that, that signals to me that they couldn't make the network work. That's what that says to me. And that's unfortunate. So the XFL. Are they doing like an over the top service? Are they going to go with Netflix? Are they going to go with Hulu or are they going to go with Amazon? I think that's more the move they want to make here, but who knows? Who knows. I will say of any benefit and we're going to get into all the fan controlled football stuff later. I will say. A benefit that fan controlled football has had, and I got a last sag. But then being on Twitch is a really good deal because they can go live when they want to. There's no overhead. If they want to go on for three hours, if they want to do a show every day of the week, if they want to do and not the XFL is going to go with Twitch, but having that. It's going to be a conjunction like this on there of having a linear TV deal, but then some sort of over the top. And I do think for the benefit of fan control, I think that's one of the best things they've done is be able to have that flexibility. You know, they want to go live and broadcast to practice and show everyone going around. They can do that, you know, at the drop of a hat. I mean, they could just go, Hey, we're showing practice today. Hey, we're showing this. And so I do think that's a lot of the future. I mean, I think that that is something that, that they've done well and innovated in that way. And. And so, you know, if the exit bell could borrow something from them, the same way that the NFL borrowed from might be original sky cam from the, you know, the XFL. I mean, I think that, you know, Again, we want all these leads succeed because you can build off each other, you know, to get a better product. I mean, do you, do you agree with that with the Twitch thing? I completely do because you and I both. We've worked. We, I work in the TV industry. Now you work in the TV industry. Prior to that. We both know how. Costly satellite uplink time can be, it's a bear of a thing on a budget. But like you pointed out. Fantasy fan controlled football can go by on a Twitch stream like this and not have to worry about booking a satellite. A budget for that satellite uplink time. There's a. There's a, I'm trying to think of the word. There's a system in place. It infrastructure in place. To make sure you skip the satellite uplink time. So I think like, That might be the move. How do you think the fan controlled football would feel if the XFL would just be like, you know what, we're going to go Twitch. I, well, that would be interesting. I mean, I think, I think the difference is I think Twitch is highly invested in fantasy football right now. I mean, I think they own part of the, Oh, they do. They, they, they, you know, they're part ownership in that. And so I don't, I don't think Twitch is going to be there. Cause I think ultimately it's getting to need to be, you know, a Netflix or like this NBC with the peacock where you can do. You know the shows on NBC and then, you know, you can do bonus content on, you know, Peacock or an Amazon prime. I mean, I think marrying the two, like they said, have kind of that linear TV contract. Okay. We can get you a 45 year old men and women to turn on their TVs and you know, in Nebraska, but then we can also get people, you know, tune in and watch it on YouTube and stuff like that, I think is going to be the place to go. You seem perplexed. I would just like. Couldn't see part of my screen for a second. That was weird. It's like, is Paul getting affected by the UFO's let's Avenue? Yeah. W, you know, moving forward with that, but you know, trying to speculate a little bit about that, I thought that that the part of that podcast was good today. And then with all the updates with the, you know, the Disney and everything with the NFL, I thought to me that made sense to talk about definitely. Another update in the all over luck versus Vince. This is turning into wrestling. I know let's just have him get it over with the WrestleMania. This is ridiculous. This is. Yeah. So. A little context. They, this, they meet in court. You said context, I'm gonna ding you on that. They meet in court about the time this episode goes live every Friday. So, so when you guys are, you know, the updates on this, it happened from last week. The big one right now is that. He all over, like struck back and he. He bashed McMahon and alpha as corrupt and deceitful that, that all of her lock in his brief alleged that McMahon violated his duty of good faith to ensure the alpha did not manufacture spurious or this honest grounds on which to terminate Mr. Luck for a sinister purposes of avoiding payment for all compensation to which he was entitled upon termination without. Cause that's a pretty. Yeah, they say. Yeah. Words matter. That's a CR. Wow. Yeah. Love the adjective choice there. Sinister. Yeah. That was the right way to say adjective, by the way, Kevin Nash. Anyway. You know, longtime fans of WWE. I mean, Vince. As a little sinister. Yeah. I would just watch the John Oliver thing. I think I sent you the John Oliver thing. Yeah. I remember Vince says that five minutes more than five minutes. It's hard. Watch for you on YouTube read. But John Oliver basically said that Vincent man was sinister in real life. And. We're using that adjective very, very freely. Yikes. Didn't spicy. Yeah. The other interesting thing with this, as we've talked for a while about Antonio Callaway, that's one of the big sticking points that McMahon has against, you know, all of her luck is he says that, you know, the, he brought in Antonio Callaway, he had the checkered past. And that, that wasn't up for luck to bring him in and luck in his brief. He asserts that not only is Vince's retelling of that whole story factually wrong, but that it misses the larger point that according to luck as the commissioner, it is literally, it is up to him and him alone to decide to bring in Callaway or not. And that's. This is what I thought was interesting that reading this today. And I know some people don't like all the luck, all of our staff are that all of our VIN stuff, but right now this is what we got, but it seems to me, you know, Vince wanted to hire a commissioner. And be hands-off, but then still want it to be able to say whatever he wanted about the coming to go into the league. Like that before we ever heard them for putting a Haman in charge of RA. And then who was it? Eric Bischoff in charge of SmackDown. Was that it. Yeah. Right. Haman was the SmackDown. Haman was a smack down and Bishop was, was raw. Than been hands-off like, I'm not going to get involved, but still be involved. Yeah. And, and that's what lucky is saying is, you know, if you're going to hire me as a commissioner, you're going to pay me $60 million over five years or whatever. Then, I mean, it was a good contract. It's like, you know, that is up to me to decide who to hire and not to hire and in. You know, I think that was just Vince's problem with lacking, you know, Control their, you know, lacking in being able to be hands off with that. But I just thought that was interesting. I mean, there's no real breaking news this week with this, except the, you know, those are some harsh words with luck and it seemed like last week, you know, with luck leaking some of the information to his brother out Wasserman media at the time. Also spoiler alert. I do do due diligence on here. I noticed that some of the retelling of this story, maybe on the alternative XFL podcast was not factual up into the point nowadays. All of our Lux brother is no longer with Wasserman. I believe he's with the NHL now. That was not conveyed entirely with all the other XFL podcasts that are going on right now. So I just want to say, you know, when we're dealing with this stuff, I do try my best to get things right. And all of our Lux brother is no longer with Wasserman media, but he was at the time Wasserman. We all know that's going to come back. That's going to be like that. The red hearing that comes back at the end that saves everything. Anyway, it's just interesting. It seems like last week luck was kind of on the defensive and now luck came back with a bunch of harsh words against Vince sinister. Sinister. That cuts deep, sir. Great. Another another tidbit from a listener to not be named the on. On March 5th. The alpha bankruptcy case is scheduled to close or to move on with that. So, To be able to speculate, you know, with the delay, with the XFL staff that, you know, they're still waiting to kind of make some of these. Yeah. They're still trying to make some of these cases whole. And so going on March 5th, They, they, they need to go in and. Yeah. Basically, if you have any outstanding debts or anything with the XFL of your former players and, and all the different stuff. Then they're going to come in and do that. Very cool. I hope that people that are OGX. Get paid. And I'm hoping that this is. Let's let's not draw this out any longer. Do you think that, that they're going to hold off on the bankruptcy finality? The final decision on the bankruptcy until the Oliver luck, Vincent man stuff gets sorted out. No, I think they, I think they announced a while ago that that luck basically for gut went any like liability against the XFL. And it's purely like a civil case against, or whatever. The I've never used those words. Right. But it's purely a case against Vince McMahon. That he basically absolved at that came out. I want to say like two months ago that locked basically absolved XFL, that they're free to go on with everything. And correct me if I'm wrong, anybody, but I believe that the Vince and they all have Rolex cases purely against the Vincent van at this point. Awesome. Okay, well, that being said, we're gonna take a quick break. Pay the bills that the sponsor wants to shove in our face and listen to these commercials. We right back after this. Did you see this thing about Fenway? Yeah. I figured you would have. I don't, but that, yeah. I'll talk s**t. And then Alex Smith. Okay. Welcome back. Read. What is the deal with the Redbird media? Like every time the Redbird does something, like if they go to the bathroom and don't wash their hands, you're putting in a Google doc. I think this is, and you would be amazed at it. The, the amount of stories I get sent every week now by listeners gracious listeners of the podcast, you know, you know who you are out there. This is one that got sent on our way. I believe again, this broke of course on Friday. But Redbird is dropping. And my takeaway from this. And I want to hear about you. Red bird is acquiring 10% of the Fenway sports group, which is part of the Fenway park and all that. But, but. But it's a ton of money for $750 million. Whereas if you put in contacts, you have Vince McMahon when he was launching the XFL back in, you know, 2019 was going to set aside like 350 million for. Three years, right? I mean, and that kind of. You know, it always seems a little veggie the numbers, but that was generally what it was. And the fact that they bought 10% of this family sports group for 750 million means there is a boatload of money behind. They, they, you know, the ownership of the XFL. What are they paying the $750 million for, is it the Liverpool or is the crappy team that they're getting with it? It was a pause about playing for context. Boston New York Yankees fan. Right. For context, Dez. And so I, it says in here the values. The red Sox and Liverpool, right? So they get, they get the whole, they get the whole, a boatload of it. I was interested in this because I knew Billy Bean was invested in. Like intrigued in it, like. Intwined in this because Liverpool is actually using some of the techniques that Billy Bean used for the Oakland athletics in terms of the analytics. That's, that's basically ruining baseball right now. Billy Bean was the Fort. Like you watch Moneyball. With Brad now. Moneyball that's Billy beam. And I knew Billy Bean was involved in the Fenway sports group because some of the, some of the stuff that he was doing in baseball, they were trying to translate to soccer with Liverpool. It got them some titles. But, yeah, I mean, this is, this is on my radar a little bit because I hate the red Sox and, you know, I'm a Tottenham fan in the premier league. So. This is, this is interesting that they're valuing both of these teams together at $7.5 billion. Yeah. I had, when I'm laughing to my head, I I'll never forget when my brother Scott and I wind cause he money ball in the movie theater. And I went up and I was I trying to like order of and tickets. And you know, when the, I asked you, like, what movie are you going to see in? You kind of like have a panic attack or jug. I don't remember what one, I was like, My ball, like, I couldn't even tell I can call. Scott was like, what is your conniption? And so to this day, whenever we're talking about money, boss, my bow. I actually liked that movie a lot. It was a great movie. It's a great movie, but. The point of getting into this is a Redbird is making moves and B it is the fact that they have a boatload of money behind them. So, this is not, I've always said this Vince as big as he is ran the XFL, like the WIB, like a mom pop shop. Right. And this is not going to be that anymore. This is big timey. That's why we haven't heard leagues. That's why we haven't heard anything is they're not running this. Like some Billy Bean, whatever. You know, I'm just using that. That's the point is like Redbird is tied in with the Fenway. Who is using the same cause that's how the red Sox won the title. Y'all they won the title because Dave Robards stole second. That's the first part. Would they won the title by using money combined with the analytics that Billy Bean came up with an Oakland to win, to break the. The curse of the Bambino. That's how the red Sox won the world series that year. So all of this analytics stuff now raises a question like, is the XFL gonna use this? Technique analytics wise with their football league. Oh, that's interesting. I I, again, I mean, I'm glad that you are finding. I mean, this is fascinating that you're finding more to read into this. I think that's great because I mean, this to me. I'm on a different level tonight. I don't know what it is, but I'm like reading into a lot of different things. That's good. I I'm glad. No. I mean again, I just set the table and I just, I, these are things that I think Paul will find interesting to talk about it in the. Very interesting. I mean, I hate the red Sox, but this is very interesting. None the less, and I'm. Not a biggest fan of Liverpool. Yeah. But anyway, they they're making a move. It's lots of money behind them. Last, extra fella related story. And then we got a lot of the spring league and fingertip football stuff. It's expected. I'm sure it will be official tomorrow at 7:01 AM Alex. And it is now officially expected to release from the Washington football team. That's unfortunate. That's really unfortunate. Yeah, Alex Smith is a good kid. That's unfortunate. Well, he's 36. I mean, he's not really. I know it was not really a kid, but when you're older than he is, you always look at like, I look at you as a kid, so no disrespect. You're younger than I am. Oh. It's funny. In theory term read, and it is interesting. JJ watt, you know, scientists. A massive deal this week. Right? $32 Million and he's like 32 years old. I'm like, he, I look at him and I'm like, he looks like a really big old, like, You know, like embarrassing. Oh, I think he, I don't, I can't imagine the world where JJ, JJ watt is younger than I am. And it looks like he could just, you know, murder me with his thumbs. He's younger than me. He's younger than I am by 10 years. And he could murder me with this. I mean. I mean, he just, he. You know, I it's, the age of 34 has not caught up to me yet. I know that's young and in some circles, but it is what it looked 42. Do you read? No. Okay. That's my point. Sometimes aging hits. It's all differently. So. Anyway, I, Alex Smith is so, you know, do we think high Nikki's going to get the star? Probably not. I will still be curious to see if cam Newton, we talked about that last week. Him moving over there. But, but I am interested in that QB situation there with, with hi Niki in Washington and anything involved with that. So I do think it's important to at least note that Alex Smith. Moving on. Yeah, they've tied about him reuniting up with the bears with gymnasts or the. I'm terrible with this weather. The coach up at the bears. I'm sorry, someone, please make fun of me on whatever. I'm going to make fun of you right now. It's head coach. Yeah. Matt Nagy. Nagy. Yeah. Samantha has past history with Nagy. Oh, okay. I watched some other good morning football. They talk about. I'm I'm. I'm like now looking at the, okay, so Nagy was the quarterback's coach on Kansas city. There you go. So that is what, that's the tie. Okay. So anyway, they're, they're thinking this Smith might wind up there, but it's just interesting. You know, hiding the keys in there. I at least know that Taylor Taylor, hi, Nikki is looking at the, the Instagram stories of the podcast. So we are. Walker. BJ. PJ Taylor Hideki. You know, I see you look in, I see you looking on there. So. On the podcast. You know, What else are you doing his off season right now? You're not dealing with all that free agency. You're all signed the contracts. I mean, you're good. So Alex Smith is there's rumors that he's going to go to Chicago potentially. That was a hypothetical out there that he would be going. With Nick Foles. And he's gone so well that they're going to be gone. They're going to be gone. Don't ever don't ever disrespect. Nick Foles in my presence, dude. He's a university of Arizona Wildcat. Don't you ever disrespect? He's the almost super bowl winner, but don't know. You want a super bowl? Oh, he did. That's right. Carson Wentz was injured. He won. I had a reverse. I'm very tired tonight. Yes, I had it reversed. Yeah. How dare you, sir. Carson Wentz is. Is the, is the, is the. First Aiken here. Yes. Yeah, you are correct. I apologize. I'm wrong. I've got one factor on my, my whole time right now. Forgive me. All right. Anyway, very defensive. Nick Foles. I'm very defensive. That's fine. I saw him get CHRO. I saw that hit this year. He got crushed, like with one minute left in the game. And I was like, man, I wasn't pulled him without loss. That they don't love it. They wish they weren't playing them right now. It was that's the XFL stuff today. We do have some big Spreedly stuff coming up. So I've been talking with Brian Woods all week via email. He is very excited for the Trout's coming. He promises big news. I assume that includes our [unknown]. There's merged that. I was gonna bring that up. The big news needs to be your Birch. Brian's going to come on the shell. I, the timing didn't work out this week just because I think everything's not finalized yet to publish, but he says the second he promised me, like on email, the second that they're ready to go with news, he's going to come on. I here, here's my first mini questions for you tonight about your opinions of things. So the spring league is going to be holding tryouts for the first time ever after the 20, 21 season in Houston at the end of March and in Detroit. In April. So the, the story now that is coming out is now that the FCF is a thing. Some of the management at FCF, including Jason Chilton. He is a friend of the show. We tweet a lot. He, we, in response to the announcement of this spring league doing tryouts, he said, Oh, so players spend $250 to spend, to earn the opportunity to spend another 2,500. That's quite an offer, basically insinuating. That fan controlled football would be a better option right. For that. So what do you say to that? So. Spring league. Is a football league. That is more formatted to an NFL or an XFL. Fan controlled football is not. So if you want to get a tape. Of how you perform in an NFL or XFL setting or a CFL setting for that example. You would want to go to the spring league? Because if you're going to go to the fan controlled football league, where they changed the rules, Willy nilly. You're not going to get good material for a tape. To show how you can perform in an NFL or XML setting. Am I wrong? That would be my takeaway. I hate to always be, and I'm getting that we get on the fingernail stuff. But fingernail football is not paying their players that much per game. I haven't had a, you know, officially quoted back to me. I know the range in which they're getting paid. I've talked to you about this offline. It's not the substantially more. To what my understanding. To what it would cost to try out for a spring. Spring Lake trout. So, you know, it's not like they're making, you know, 10 grand a game or whatever in fingernail football. I believe. So, yeah, that's kind of where I'm at too. I don't really love the idea of them paying the $2,500 to be in the spring league. I mean, that's, you know, rumor, they haven't announced anything this year. A lot of people are believing that with, if Brian gets another Fox deal this year for the spring league, that some of those costs will be mitigated. Not all the players paid last year. To be in the spring league, some got paid were brought in talent wise. So yeah. I just thought it was a really interesting take that now the fan controlled exists. Right. So now if you're a player, if you're at you. Lower not lower tier, but if you're a, if you're someone that's not NFL bound, Do you look at the FCF as a more viable option playing three months on three months off, as David said, they're going to do then trying to make another go. I do take that bird in the hand with the FCF and get your whatever per game. Or do you, you know, really try to go for the NFL. That's a good question. I mean, if I were, if I were shooting for the NFL or the XFL or CFL. I would want to have a tape. That showed how I could perform in that environment. I would. And I hope Brian gets another Fox deal so that these costs can be mitigated. FA Brian should maybe look into some sponsorships. So those costs could be more mitigated. It would be nice to see these players go to the spring league at no cost. Maybe make some money. So I would like to see that. Yeah. Yeah, especially cause it's, you know, it's a shortened season, you know, I think, I think if Springleaf gets their act together here in may, which is what's going to be happening. And wha when CFL now they're signing a bunch of former ex NFL players. I'll be very curious to see the talent pool that FCF has if they're going to do so. If you figure, if they go off now, April and then may June. They come back in August or July. They want to do a summer season. I'll be very curious what talent pool they have at their disposal. Now that things are coming back where they did not have that problem here in February. Right. Got it. I just last week, no, Dorothy is going to hate this. When did the TSL coach is Sammy Parker joined Washington state football team, which Dorothy is a UDaB to die. So I had that mega note. I, sorry. Dorothy. But, yeah, that's good for him. We'd love to see the TSR guys making moves. And one of the coaches is joining the recruiting staff at Washington. So awesome to hear, we're gonna take another break right now. Listen to our sponsors come back. And you got some bank control. You were high on the fan controlled football. Saturday night. You're shaking your head. No, though. I said, I tweeted it just like I was, I was feeling good about fan controlled football. And then I've just like Al Pachino in the godfather part three, just when I thought I was out on the hate. They pulled me back in. Because I am as down on fan controlled football, as we have ever been so far. All right. We'll hear about that after the break. I'm going to get some water really quick. Sorry. Sounds good. Robert. Hm. So you think we should have a question Mark for that connecting with Danny Garcia. Yeah, we should. Sorry. That's okay. Oh, yeah, she is. Oh, my God. Okay. I think that's a good episode so far. Yeah. I'm animated tonight. That's good. I'm really tired. I'm really animated tonight. That's good. I poured myself a little cocktail. Oh, you did. I did. Wow. Okay. Can you tell it all? No, but I mean, you just seem jovial. So I appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm jovial. I poured myself a cocktail, had a hard day at work. Okay. Won't talk about that. But, yeah, I'm trying to bring up the energy here. I know that Reed's having some stuff right now, so I want to bring up the energy. And get really opinionated and really acclimate about things. So I thought that that a cocktail might put me in that mood. Okay. You had a Shiner two weeks ago, so don't judge me. No, I'm not judging at all. I'm very glad I want to, I definitely want to get re are we going now? Do you want to just. Okay. We're back. We're back for the reg. No, I, I want to hear about this kids, cause I told you this this week, because I don't want this to be the crap on FCF show, right? Like at all, I don't want that. [Unknown] at all to be the thing. But I do. I think there's a lot of talking points tonight. I do think you're going to have some very big opinions about Jim. Can I note that I did not watch fan controlled football this week? I was at work. Yeah. Yeah. So I, I I'm coming into this fresh. Yeah. Go Paul's give me their fresh. I've watched. I watched every second and of everything. I'm I'm very, I caught up on this. I've spent way too much time talking to way too many people about this. Nope. So first now, congratulations to Renee Montgomery. She is now part of the ownership of the Atlanta dream owner of one of the, part of the owners of the fairs of football BESE. So good for her. That was the big thing, you know, I've seen more congratulations for her and all the women involved in that than anything in the world. So a sincere congratulations to Renee and all the women with that. Did you have any thoughts about that? Because, I mean, I'm like congratulations to Renee. I'm glad they put an ownership. To get a group together. There were some issues in terms of. Politics that were involved with that whole Kelly Loffler of course, is a very controversial conservative former Senator from Georgia. And she was the owner of that team. And there were some very controversial things that happened with her. We won't give that too much. But it's good to see that. That you know, You know, the they're they're, they, they kind of forced that sale. They kind of did the dark Donald Sterling thing. Like the Clippers did back in the day. It's it's good to see that, you know, they're moving forward and congratulations to Renee. We're making major moves, Renee. Huge. Yeah. I'm still talking with her agent about getting her on the show. I that that's coming up about at the time. There we go back out and do that. So as now as a preface to everything else come about fingers or football, I was as high on fangirl football Saturday night, following the two games this week, as I ever have been. And that everything has been so dashed by that. Every second since then from Sunday on until Thursday night at nine o'clock right now, as we're recording this. So just just context that I watched both the game Saturday day. How the couple shiners watch the games. And I was as high on everything that they've wanted this leak to be the games were exciting. They came down to the end that I thought that power ups worked. I thought the defense shined there was actually interceptions. There was actually, you know, stop touchdowns. And everything the league has done since then has soured so many people on the league and I'm talking like people send me screenshots from the discord groups. I'm talking other, you know, people that follow this a for written word for podcasts. I'm talking to people that have investments in the league. So many issues about this. The first thing that was sent out. Well, there are a lot of, this seems a lot more daunting than it is Paul, but there, there was a survey that was sent out Friday before actually the Saturday games. And one of the questions was, do you think the FCF she changed? Rules. In between every a week next season. No. You shouldn't change the rules in between games, what you shouldn't and I wouldn't change from week to week either. You know, I think definitely after the season, I think, you know, figure out what works and what doesn't work, but yeah. When did the idea that we, it was like, don't change the rules at all, you know, change them every season or change them every week. And that guy, they very negative opinion about that. That you got feedback that was negative on that people were very negative about the fact that you should not be changing the game that rules in between games. You shouldn't be, you should be changing the rules at all. You should have rules that are set down at the beginning of the season and that's that. Yes. Why do you believe that? Because like there's no consistency here. There's no consistency. How do you expect the rest to do their job when you're changing the rules week to week, let alone game to game. How do you, how do you criticize reps that don't know what the rules are? Every five minutes. And we're going to get into the raft criticism. Are you a fan? So that was the first thing. Are you a fan of Josh Gordon of the CLC Hawks? Formerly of the Seattle Seahawks. Well, as of today, he got released to go play in finger to a football. What do you think about Josh Gordon signing with fingertip football? I think Josh Gordon is an immense talent. I wish he would get his act together in terms of substance abuse. You know what I'm going to text. I'm sorry. I'm going to text. I wish that I wish that Josh Gordon would have get his act together in terms of the substance abuse stuff. Cause that's, what's going on. I don't know what's happening in his personal life. What like. You have a contract with the Seahawks and you want to get released to go. I don't know. Yes. So Josh Gordon got signed over the weekend. He is in the bubble fan controlled football. He, the, the controversy right now is Johnny Manzell has left. There was a lot of questions this week about whether he would be returning this weekend or not. The lead came out. During the draft and basically said that Manzell would not be coming back. And that the presumption is now is that either Josh Gordon will be brought in to basically replace. Manzell as a franchise tag. So basically the zapper is get another pick at a former NFL star. Or he's just going to be added to that team anyway, once he clears protocol and I, as you could probably imagine, a lot of people are not very happy about this. Do the zappers have like photos. Incriminating people. They're getting everything. Bob [unknown] Bob Manary calls these people out and brings him in Andy. It seems either fangirl football. Isn't. Isn't strong enough to say no. Or does it want to say no and is allowing them to come in? Greg is doing more with while this is owner's doing more to promote his team. That any owner is why? Why, why are we catering to the zappers? Well, yeah. And, and, and so th th that was the big question this week is, you know, the draft came and went, he wasn't cleared yet to, to be a part of that. He hadn't passed the physicals. He hadn't passed the quarantine. And so he wasn't. Able to be drafted. And so the question is now, yeah. Like he might just be added onto that team and there is some controversy about that. I will say Vince with the owners. Owners FCF owners box FCF did a whole big write up about this. I included that part of it here. We don't need to get all that, but the idea that having, you know, fans. Voting on players each week and then voting on the tags, the franchise tags of the teams. And then having people, you know, systematically just brought in and placed on teams, kind of defeats the purpose of having to be a finger to a football draft. Didn't they. Didn't they basically invent the franchise tag for Johnny Manzell too. Oh, that's our theory. I mean. There wouldn't admit that. Publicly, but isn't that like what we think. I think so. I mean, it was always pitched is new drafts every week. I mean, it makes sense. You know, I've talked a lot with VINs with all football scout report on, on Twitter. It makes sense every week that you would want to solidify your team, you know, piece by piece. And then as you move towards the season, you're drafting less and less people. So I get that. But the idea that, you know, you're signing these big names to come in and they're not. You know, having access to the rest of the players and the rest of the teams. You know, has to be frustrating. Like if I am someone like Matt friended the shell and I've invested in the wild ACEs, my money, I would probably be pretty annoyed that these people keep getting brought in and I don't have access to them at all in the finger to football drafted leak. Yeah. I'm just. Okay. Also w where does he ox? Michael? Michael Turbin is now being brought in by Marshawn Lynch a to B. Just on the beast now. Robert turbine. Did I copy the name wrong? I want to say it's Robert Turbin dude. Now we have Robert Terman. Sorry. I typed the damn name wrong. Sorry, Robert Turbin is being brought in by Marshawn Lynch. I'm so sorry. It's so great right now. All right. Robert Turbin formerly of the Seahawks is being brought in by Marshall allied. So again, now we have these NFL players. Do you. Big picture. Do you like the idea of washed up or, or just tenured NFL players that are not playing in the NFL anymore? Either by choice or by drugs or by health conditions? Do you enjoy them coming into fan controlled football? Do you think that's a place for them? I think it works. We have the big three basketball league, you know, the ice cube thing that's going on, where you see a lot of like older players, like. Stephon Marbury shows up and all these old NBA players that don't play in the league anymore, show up. And it actually does well in terms of getting people to watch the big three product. On, and it gets some TV deals and stuff like that. So I, I'm not, I'm not opposed to this. I just don't I guess I just don't understand why the zappers are getting all this. All this free, like, Oh, we'll just. Let's just draft the Seahawks. Bob. Memory. What do we doing? I used is someone that, so I just WWE for years in seeing Vincent man and company rely on older names and never, always claiming that they're going to raise all the ships with the water or, you know, raise all the wa whatever that is. The high tide raises all ships or whatever. Having heard that for 20 years. I will admit. And I've talked with Patrick DS about this on Twitter, and he says, no, I'm telling you like the guys want to see Josh Gordon come in. You know, they, they want to cover in. They want to, you know, the, the, the players are really excited about this. I just, that is my bias. As someone that's watched WWE for most of my life and been told that everybody, Oh, we're bringing back the undertaker, but he's going to put it over whoever we're bringing back AAA, and she's going to put over or bring them back Hogan. He's. And they got, and they never put them over or are they putting them over? And they barely, and that's just my prejudice. I just, I have. I have a problem with guys that have been in the bubble now for five, six, seven weeks not getting paid nearly as much as I guarantee that like, you know, Josh Gordon or whatever's going to get paid. I don't know what he's getting paid. Right. And then, you know, presumably taking a back seat to some of the hype or some of the playtime, that is a problem for me. This appar is, did not win under Manzell at all. They won this week with a marquee, you know, leading the pack. And so that is a problem for me to, to see just. I just wish if you say it's going to bring more eyeballs in, I just want more attention to be on those players. The games this week, they were both great games is Apres finally won against the ACEs. ACEs are one and two. The bees are undefeated 28 to 22 against the glacier boys. Next week. They're going back to the first week again, it's rivalry week. So it's going to be the glacier boys in the wild ACEs and the beasts and the zappers. I just have notes for the game before we get into the after note stuff. Again, these felt like the best games I've seen this week. Actual defense. There was, you know, the games went back and forth. You didn't score every single time. Cause we've talked about this so much where it's like, get the ball score, give the ball score. Finally, this week we had it, we had a touchdown stop. We had an interception, we had a QB sack. What do you think about Joe Montana? Being on the broadcast with Patrick? Ease asking Joe questions from Twitter, as opposed to commentating on the game. How was Joe was, was he engaged in the actual game or was it just like, did they even give him a chance to be engaged in the game? They were asking them a lot of like stuff on Twitter. Like what was, what would you, if you couldn't be named Joe Montana with other state, would you be named. I don't know. I don't, I don't know. Okay. I love Patrick. These, if I had 30 minutes of Joe Montana, I would not be getting questions from Twitter. I would do formulate my own questions. I'm sorry, Patrick. I love you. They were advertising for cheerleaders on the broadcast. If you want to be a cheerleader for an upcoming season. What do you think about a fangirl football XFL now famously no cheerleaders because of the controversy back in that one. When you think about fingers or football, bringing the cheerleaders. More people you have to put in a bubble. Well, yeah, and, and money. That's why. Yeah. That's actually a great point. There's just a whole, another fleet of people. You have to do that. They really asked Joe Montana, what other state he would prefer to be named as that really happened. Oh, my God. Okay. Is it 40,000 viewers on Twitch was the, was the max for game one or they have 30,000 at halftime, a spoiler alert. Do you think the ratings went up or down for the second game for week three? Yeah, it was down to 21,000, started the second game, 19,000, by the end of the game, it was really brutal. These are really fun though. The games were fun. While the ACEs had a bunch of power ups. They, you know, they stopped the TD run. The fans got to like vote. They did the whole replay thing. The fans got to vote on that. That was really good. The whole deal was though at the end, there was like a, there was a hail Mary at the end and that, you know, they won with one second left. It was exciting. And it was funny because. I, I saw a lot of people unhappy on, on Twitter later. Like, you know, Greg Miller was so past all these feelings. Am I. This is actually football. To me, it felt the most like football that anything's felt so far. And then people seemed like the least happy with it ever. Rachel Lindsay was on a half-time for the wild EISA she's she's you know, Co-owner of the wild ACEs and then they had Sherman on again. And Richard Sherman. Has the worst luck where they always have the worst penalties. And now this is where all the controversy comes in this week. Now. Some really bad officiating calls. There was a defensive pass interception at the end of the second game. And it ended up with the bees, getting the ball back at like the two yard line with a chance to score. I know it's like the rules. So, so they won, but, but this game was so excited. Like Quentin flowers was banked up, came back in, got the two point conversion, you know, took the lead. You know, they, they stopped them. It was all this kind of stuff. But, but after the game, the big drama was that that shouldn't have been in the interception and that the rest. Didn't know what they were doing. So the next day, get this. We wake up Sunday morning, fan controlled football has posted their next poll. Clearly we have a problem with the rafts or something that said, what should we do? Hope that professionals learn how to do their job and get better or replace them with people who wrote the rule book. Who wrote, who wrote the rule book? Well, presumably fans, I would think management and whatever, but the idea is that base. Which robot, the one that comes out of 5:00 PM or the one comes at 7:30 PM. That's also a good point. So because of the backlash that they got later in the day, they, they deleted all the tweets that involve the ball and they came back and they said, okay, Should we hope the professional has get better or add in people who wrote the rule book. And basically. Basically kind of throwing the rest under the bus, like you pointed out earlier. I mean, these rules are changing week to week, sometimes game to game. And then as opposed to like standing by your, your refs. Basically throwing them under the bus the day after the game and being like, yeah, we're just going to get rid of them and bring in, you know, where where's he going to do with ourselves? I thought it was a really bad luck. It's completely bad luck. W what do you expect them to do when you change the rules? Minute to minute? Like literally minute to minute, you're changing the rules and you're expecting them to adjust to the new rules. You're instituting between games. How can you critique these reps? They don't know what game they're officiating. They're officiating one game one minute. The next minute. They're officiating base. Good ball. This is insane. How are you going to critique them? W w with. It's most issue to me was during the draft on Wednesday. They, when did they, when did the offensive lines or whatever, when they came out and they were doing like, there. Yeah, they all come out, they all get drafted. They come out and do their entrances and whatever. And they were like, play, pretend beating up the rafts and you have Ray Austin sitting there, the commissioner and he's, you know, broadcasting. And he goes, Oh yeah, you know the rest. I mean, we give him a hard time sometimes, but you know, they're, they're like the fifth team out here, you know, we're just. They're in the bulletin. This is such a back pedal from throwing these guys under the bus. Now four days ago, I tweeted it today when I was getting ready for the show. I go, my favorite part of the day is because I save all these tweets all week, right. To look them up today. Half of them were deleted today. From all this. Screenshots. So you should just go green. I'm going to have the receipts I'm going well. And luckily I write down a lot of this stuff anyway, but like, you know, when you have, this is the, this is the official league Twitter account. Tweeting these things, taking the back, you know, feeding things, hanging back. And he was, to me, it was such a knee jerk reaction on Sunday from the game. On Sarah, the games on Saturday night. And such like I understand it's fan controlled football. But I still think you have you haven't on yourselves as the league to establish what the, you know, what the framework is that we are operating with it. And then you're just going to like Willy nilly go, like, cause you have some people mad tweeting that you guys on, on whatever, or like flaming the Twitch chat. Oh, well, we're going to get rid of the RAs. Like I don't, I just don't think that's an appropriate response from the commissioner of the league. Who said this? The commissioner league is Austin. When Ray Austin. Is it the, is it the same guy that says I had a feeling about this guy and a feeling about this kind of feeling about this same guy? Yeah. Yeah, he's a feeling everybody. Aye. I stopped listening to him. I did. There that one game, I was like this guy's ridiculous. I had a feeling about, you know, You could have, you could have gone in there read, you could have gone in there. And lined up as a wide receiver and caught a pass for 10 yards and he would have had a feeling about, you know, yeah, that's a good, I mean, he was, I told you, so I told her, I said that was, I. I knew it anyway. There were notes that they had 823,000 viewers on Twitch on Saturday night. I talked with Matt about this. Matt is a Twitch streamer, Twitch watcher. I said. I understand that that co current viewers. You're always going to have more total viewers than co current viewers. Right. Because. You know, you're going to get some plus and minus is even ITV ratings, right? Like you have, you know, what's the peak and what was the overall and whatever. I don't understand. How we get 40,000 co current viewers. Equals 823,000 viewers. Are they thinking like people that check in and check it like, Oh, you watch the stream for 10 seconds. We're adding you to the numbers. Is that what there? Yeah, Matt, Matt thinks it's a combination of like, you know, Greg Miller is. Streaming, you know, You have all these people streaming and then, you know, like maybe fans go streaming. And then, but, but I, I don't even know, like, even to me like that, Okay, maybe you get 75,000 viewers or 100,000 viewers. I just, I don't know. And I haven't seen like, press releases. I've just seen this. I've tweeted about, I just don't know how you get from 40,000. Cause I watch it all the game I check in. I see, you know, watch the dips and everything. It dipped. Like I said, it was down to 19, you know, half the viewers down by the second game. I just don't get how you, how you get that. So, anyway. That was interesting. And then just a couple of final notes this week, you know, the draft, it. This was, this was like the nail. And I actually kind of forgot about this, Phil. So we get the big, final draft this week. This is the big, final we're going to set up the teams, the teams that you draft this week are going to go into next week and then the two playoff games, right. Yes, we will pass the garbage. Don't worry. Paul's message. I know we're going quite long. That's why I put, if we do not have time, no problems. I got a little animated. I'm sorry. It's you're good. It's fine. So. The draft started out. Great. We're setting up the final playoffs teams. We're, we're drafting like the offensive and defensive lines early because people know like, Hey, this is going to be our own line for the next three weeks. This is going to be our defense, whatever. So we get ready for the wild ACEs to draft and verges was going to get drafted. And, and I was kind of listening and watching and I was, I was tweeting some stuff. And, and what happened was, I think the BESE had a drafted, one of their, you know, Oh, aligned or something, something before one of the teams that drafted before and, and the way it works in fair goods or footballs, there's only two Alliance in the late two defensive lines. So, you know, once the one's drafted or whatever, you know, They're automatically placed with the other team. And so what happened was it ended up skipping. What I get skipped the wild ACEs basically, and went through the bees. So the bees got the player that the wild ACEs had drafted. And then it went on auto-draft for the rest of the droughts, like the next two rounds. It went like basically just whoever people had queued up. Cause you can, you can on the draft, if you draft on the app, like you can queue up players ahead of time. And then, you know, it's kind of like in fantasy football, like an auto picks or whatever. So, so the last two rounds around and a half of the fan Goodrow football, big, final draft going into the playoffs was auto-draft. Wow. Wow. Okay. I got nothing. I don't know. I don't want to say anymore. I'm sorry, I want to like this league, but none of it makes sense to me. I I'm so sad right now. A I really am. I was so high on this Saturday and to go to a week into this, you know, a week after. You know, we have commentary during the draft and they're, they're actually asking this, they go. Do you think that the players draft or the, the players entrances during the draft? Like have they come down to the ring or the field? Cause it's a ring. I mean, it's a wrestling thing. Yeah. Do you think that, do you think that has an effect on where they got pulled in the draft? Totally. No, not one now. One fan in the history of the world is drafting. The, you know, the, the block party, because they came out with steel chairs and pretended to beat up the rafts or whatever. And this is, this is asinine. Anyway, th th th the nail in the coffin was of course in the, in the official. Fan controlled football news update today that came out Thursday for Friday about the drought. They made no mention of the glitch at all. And I say that it would just be like fingers on football to literally have there. You know, their final draft and that's fine and it can, it can fail, you know, it can. They're they're trying stuff. It's a beta league, whatever. But to not even mention that in the official league recap, I thought was very telling. Of how they are viewing moving forward with this. Yeah. I mean. I'm just so confused. And I think like I do have Saturday off this week, the games are on Saturday, right? Five and six. I have Saturday off this week. I think I'm going to actually put myself through this just to, so just so I can get a better. I watched week one. And I want, I really want to add. More to this discussion because I'm invested in terms of my. For lack of a better term anger. About what's happening here. Is that, is it the right thing to say? Like, I don't want to be angry about this. I want them to succeed, but it doesn't seem like. They want that. I'm just so confused by all of this. The biggest thing to me. And honestly, and I don't even know, you know, if you're still listening at this point, how I look at this really, I I'm trying to be an advocate for these leads and, and I don't see anybody else holding them accountable. I don't. I see you. I see some mixed criticisms. I see some, but, but I mean that, I really mean that. And I think that you make a very good point and that's all I'm trying to do. And I'm sure they think that I'm the dumbest guy in the world and, you know, You're looking at this from a logical standpoint. Who cares about the Mark CASSE we're on ESPN with Josh Gordon, like whatever. Right. I'm watching I'm rewatching Lord of the rings right now at, you know, Frodo is, this is, I was thinking about this today, but yeah, for those like, ah, I wish this hadn't, none of this had happened in this had been gone to me. Right. I wish the ring hadn't been put in, you know, this wasn't on me. Ah, But, but I mean that, like, I am trying to hold this and I'll do the same for the XFL. We did the same. We had Brian Woods of the spring league on the show to ask him about what was going on with the spring league, when there was all that controversy. Possible about this. We're calling these people to question and we're calling fan could, we're not going to go on Twitter. Because we were an insider. And kiss the ring. We're not going to do that. We're not going to do that at all. I'm sorry. We're not. So that's all I'm trying to do. I'm not trying to be a Debbie downer. I was super high on the league salary. I left so excited. And then I know a lot of people are, are really having issues right now. And so I, I hope they listen. I don't know if they're listening. But, but I really want this to succeed. And I think that they have made some very bad steps this week. Do you think. And I'm sorry, we're getting long here, but do you think they're catering to the minority as opposed to majority here? On this. No, I don't think they are, but I don't know. I think that they are, are so. Really caught up in, in, you know, getting clout, getting that social media. Oh, we can get this guy to come in. We can talk to Joe Montana. We can talk to all this stuff. Okay. There's just, we said this from the beginning. There's so many different things going on with this, but. At the end of the day, this is a football league and it's the same thing. You know, the, the Vince McMahon. WB forever. Like you're you're wrestling league and you can do the McMahon millions and giveaway money and bring in drew, Carey, the host, and bring in, you know, Jeremy Piven, did you a top rope dive and all this stuff, but like, It's still a football league. You can call it turning football on its head and football for the modern age, it's still got football on the title. And at the end of the day, You know, throwing your. Throwing your refs. Yeah, throwing your rest under the bus. As the management that hired the refs, you know, changing the drafts. You know, with, to bring in people that the, you have fans out, these aren't fans. That just are our keyboard warriors or whatever that are. They're angry, tweeting. You wanted to bring in fans to pay, to be invested in your league. This is what's going to happen. It gives this, isn't read the Seahawk fan. That's mad that Russell Wilson wants to get traded. This is someone that paid 150 or the other one was like $1,000 that people paid. To be a part of this league. And they have a right to be upset, but, but you also can't then be like, well, they're upset fire all the refs. I mean, you can't, there's gotta be a middle ground there between not taking off your fans because you're not doing enough and then not taking off your fans because you're doing too much and they're failing on both sides of that. They're not doing enough. That to stop some of these owners from stacking the deck, but then there, then there they're catering to the will at the end of the day and riding these waves that well, the discords map, we're going to fire the rest. You know, long. People on Twitter have want, wanted MLB umpire on hell Hernandez and CB Buckner fired. Do you know how long we've wanted that? Probably a lot of time as baseball fans on Hill Hernandez is probably the most inept MLB empire. Umpire of all time. And if it weren't for him, see CB Buckner would be that guy. And guess what? They don't get fired. They don't get threatened with their jobs. They get to do it, whatever they want to. And I think if you hire someone as a commissioner, As much as it pains me to say it, you have to stick by these officials because you, as the commissioner are changing the rules of the game minute by minute game by game week by week. How do you expect them to officiate a game fairly? If one minute you could use a power up and the next minute you can't. Also. My last note. It was passing interference. It was passage of ferrets. He didn't play the ball and the whole controversy that came about it at the end, it was, he tackled the guy in the end zone. It didn't play the ball. It was pass interference. There wasn't a doubt in anyone's mind. And that's what caused this whole stupid thing. And it was the most obvious defensive pass interference you could ever see. I'd say I'm not. Thank you. We're done. Make sure you check us out. XFL show.com/review XML show.com/merch. And we'll see you here next week. Hopefully with some positivity about the fan controlled football league and some new news from the XFL. That way we can take off that silly hat. Yeah. We're we're thank you guys for listening. If you've made it this far, I got a lot of messages and people this week that said they felt their voices were heard from some of the things we were saying about this. And I do mean that I don't do this to be cruel. I do this because I think that it needs to be said. So we appreciate that. We appreciate all the work you put in to read. Of course, I just show up. I talk, I get animated and I throw up a shirt or two every once in a while reads really the heart and soul of this podcast. Please go to YouTube. Excellent. xflshow.com/youtube. Right? Subscribe gives the, like, watch some videos, get our content up. We really appreciate that. That would share, read up. And that's what we want to do here. So thank you for listening. We'll see you next week.

Episode 29 - All Reid Got For Xmas Was A Stupid XFL Hat

It's Friday. By the time you hear this, probably some new news. Bust out. That's just the way, that's the way. There are a lot of luck works, right. Yeah, we, I, I, we did get a little late breaking on Twitter today. I was going to say how I think we should handle this episode. Is, I think we're going to do a test run. We're going to do a test run tonight. This will all play out later in the episode with the fan controlled stop. We're going to do a test run, and then if it's a good episode, Then we'll air it and we'll, and we'll, we'll go for it. But if it's not, if it's not getting them, then we'll redo it later. And we'll just say it was a test run. Okay. Okay. Your, your boy Reed has, I've gotten into trouble today on Twitter. I was just, I was thinking, wait a Roddy Piper East to say right when they know that when they know the answers, I changed the questions. You have the answers? I changed the questions. I was just asking questions to the ad Twitter, but there was a big. We'll get into all the fan controlled stuff later. Lots of stuff about beta tests and test runs. And I was actually going to make a glass of Kool-Aid tonight, and then we just ran out of the time. But there's a lot. A lot of fan control drama. When I was thinking about this as it is funny where I, you know, you're at work all day and it's almost like I'm the wife at home, like all this stuff's going on. And then you come home and I'm just like feeding you, like, okay, what do you think about this? What do you think about that? So there'll be a lot honey deer, or there will be a lot to, to feed you and keep you up to date tonight about what's going on. Okay. Wow. That being said, welcome to X. No Mark asked. Yeah. We're going to talk about fan controlled football. Later we got XFL stuff. I was, I was working during the games this weekend. Couldn't watch him, but read, watched him. He had plenty of commentary. So we'll get to that in a second, but that's do we have to talk about daft punk before we start? It's it's terrible. We got Bobby Schmurder back, but we lost Def punk. I I've had that. The top of the Google doc all week. Daft punk. Not dad, but rip their careers. Right. I'll just there to retiring, I guess they're just like done. Toward in like 10 years. So there's not really, you know, they're like not going out. So it doesn't really. The only thing they're doing is producing weekend records now these days. So it's fine. It was a cool video. I did watch them when they're in the desert, walking in and I didn't watch the whole eight minutes. I skimmed it, but I got, I got the jest of what did they have to be eight minutes. For the drama. It had to be eight minutes. So that's why they. Will I be smarter is out. So maybe we could do a Bobby Shmurda dancing video to the XLT. That's what I'll Mark as Liam. Sorry, what do you think? I would say, well, now here's the deal, Bobby Shmurda that just had this relates to the Mark. As Bobby Shmurda got picked up from jail on a private jet from Quavo, one of the owners of the glacier boys from the wild. I tweeted. I wanted to say, you know, maybe Quavo, if he focused more on finger till football, I'm not so much, I'm picking up a Bobby smear that with his private jet. From jail. Hobbies, Roberta. Welcome home. Anyway, you have some notes here. A couple of notes, real quick audio. Or a video listeners will know this. I'm wearing my XFL black Friday hat. This is really the first time I've ever worn this. It's probably the ugliest most uncomfortable hat I've ever worn. And I'm doing it to prove a point. That since Danny and the rocket bought the league. Cause I, you know, I talk crap about fan control. I'll talk crap about XFL. This is the only thing that we have gotten from the XFL since August when Danny and the rock bought it. And so I wanted maybe the episode tonight, it could be like, I'll Regan for Christmas. Was this stupid hat or something I think would be, you know, But, but anyway, I just, I, I wore this today, other principal, and now the protests, and I think I might wear it every week on the podcast now. Cause it's so ugly. It's got the Velcro back. I just as silent protest for that. You know that we don't have anything from Danny in the rock yet. No. It looks uncomfortable. Yeah. Presume I'm watching through zoom. It doesn't look comfortable on zoom that tells you how uncomfortable probably looks in real life. It hurts my head. And honestly, the IB embroidery is so large on it. It doesn't fit like on your head. So it's really. Yeah. It's bad. W w we had the whole thing last week on the podcast. What's news. What's not news. Friend of the show is Zack. You know, Then God sent me this great note. He goes, you guys do a good job about covering what is news and wasn't news. I fully expect this will continue as we move forward to 2022 and beyond the show is just so awesome. Like two guys having a conversation about stuff for the bar. And I just say, you know, Zach, we haven't gotten any new reviews in the while. XFL show without compensation review, if you're a fan of the show, but I appreciate notes like that. We had max and other. A friend. Messaged me on Twitter. And I say, before you give any critiques, you have to say good job. Read on the work. And he said, I think he said something like stellar work. Okay. Now here am I here? Criticism, and that's fine. We accept all that. But XFL show that calm. If you have reviews. I appreciate that. Of course, and yeah, we've got the giveaway going on. If you subscribe to the YouTube channel, you'll be entered into a chance to win. Either the misprinted hat, which people are preferring over OTO, Cinco signed football. I don't understand that, but Hey. Different different, different strokes for different folks. We have the football handy. Is it handy to grab it's it's locked up. That's okay. Well, and that's, you know, it's. You know the scenario around my place. Listeners of the show last week, now that Paul, I would not be leaving in a, a, any prize possessions. Just single out, but seriously, if you go to the XFL show.com/youtube, where you can get XFL. YouTube. Like slash C whatever, but XFL Mark on YouTube, we added like 25 subscribers this week. So, I mean, clearly the giveaway, Paul, I really do honestly appreciate that. No BS doing, doing that. And it seems to be working because, you know, we get the listens, we get the views we're coming off our second highest. I've viewed episode ever last week, the only one that taught it was our big Greg Miller episode, which I forgot to email him to promote. So even just by word of mouth. So our second highest viewed episode ever, and it was just Paul and I talking about the rocks, tight shirts on this cigar magazine. So thank you guys. Really all, everyone that listened and everyone that watched last week. But yeah. XFL show that complex YouTube subscribe. When we hit a thousand, we're going to do the giveaway and we have this misprinted hat, which some people really want. And then we have the chat. You're saying go it's actually, it's a real life OJ. I St goes on the ball so that. Like it's, it's authentic. Whereas there's certificates of authenticity. This is a real thing. So, I mean, if you really want that hat. You really want the hat, but if you want the football. There's the football too. So there's that? And this is, yeah, this is a much nicer hat than the XFL one in case you couldn't tell, even though it's a misprint. It is actually a nice app. You know, Danny and Rox, you should call us and we should talk about our merchandise deal that we got set up. I'd help out. I'm telling ya. So, and then the other quick note to get off, we have that, we're not talking about the young rock premiere. I got like three and a half million viewers this week, but I did, the rock was live tweeting the episode and I tweeted, I said, Hey, rock. Does the future young rock character ever talk about his involvement in the spring football league on the young rock. And he did not tweet me back, but I tried so, but, you know, cause you figure the rocks and running for president in 2032. So what was he doing? And those, this is the shell. You're, we're not talking about it. If you want to talk about young, Rob we'd have my era. And in 2032, the rock is running for president and he's reflecting on his life. And you would think at some point in the last 10 years, he's run the most successful spring football league. In the history of mankind with the XFL. Okay. Nope. Sorry, that rock didn't tweet at you. Well, we did at me when it was my birthday. So we, yes. Fans of the shell will know that we got that. But I did try. I figured that would be a good, that would be a good timing because I used the hashtag and everything. That'd be a good way to get them that the big XML news news nine news this week, XFL tweeted at Nick Fitzgerald on Twitter and that the world went crazy. Cause they said, XFL goes. We'll send you a DM if you will. Oh my God. Oh my God. My God, my God, my. He was asking him about his W2 it's tax season. So he is. He was former XFL Blair, and he was just trying to get his W2. So people that were freaking out about the XFL social media account. I mean, it's good that they're active. I mean, it's certainly good that they're like checking their mentions, but yes, that was what it was. What do you think about that? It just needs to step you too. I mean his tax season, man. Susan. Yeah. You're right. Because even, even Vince texts me, he's like, Whoa, does. Does this mean they want them to play? I go Vince. He goes, I didn't even think about that. So it is, it just, you might see that again in the next couple of weeks, it's 10 99 season is W2 season. It's time for all that stuff. And the XFL is still, was still an organization last year. And that is what they're doing. Yeah. Let's calm down. It just come to me, I'll tell you Vince, but he did the right thing. Vince came to me. He goes. Vince all football scout report on Twitter. He goes, ah, is this news? And I go, it's not news. Move on. Perfect problem. Solved. Look how easy that is. I'm trying, I'm trying. So I, we have some, some XFL stuff here. We've got some NFL XFL stuff to me, the most interesting thing this week. And there's been a couple of things with the Washington football team that came out. I know we have a, you know, a friend of the show, Taylor. Hi, Niki is over at the Washington football team. Just signed the two year deal. Peter Schrager on good morning football this week. And then Alex Smith was also interviewed by Kyle Brandt and then in GQ doing an interview about his time in Washington football. Peter was concocting. And they're really interesting. Theory about cam Newton going who's a free agent. Just had the big interview on Ironman athlete podcast. We might talk about him in the garbage segment at the end, yelling at that kid at the training camp, if we have time, but. He did you hear the interview where he was talking about how he's not done playing there's 32. There's not 32 quarterbacks that are better than him. Did you hear this? I didn't hear that, but he's right. Yeah. So he was on the, I am athlete podcast and he basically said like, I definitely deserve to play next year. I'm not want ready to go out. And there's not, he goes, I'm not like number 32. There's not 32 guys that are better than me. Do you agree that cam Newton is still starter in the national football league? Yes. I do. I still think Cam's got something to offer with the right. System. I think he has a system quarterback. I do. I do believe that. I don't believe Randy, as a system quarterback. Brady is the system people, you know, bought about that, you know, when, when he loved new England, like, Oh, well, the only reason he's successful is because bill Bella chug and I was just imported back. Cam is definitely a system quarterback. He's got to find the right system and maybe, you know, maybe him coming back and. Reuniting with Ron Rivera in Washington is the way to go. You know, we talked about Taylor, high-key getting a good deal. People are like, yeah, let's roll them out there week one. That's a good idea. If they don't get camp. If they get cam cams, your starter, obviously. If they don't then, you know, Taylor honokiol, you can, you can ride him out until maybe something frees up. You know, Eventually, but. I like the idea. I do think the camera is a starter and I think that a cam still got a lot to offer. I think Colin Kaepernick still has a lot to offer. And Kaepernick, I believe is older. So. Yeah. And so, yeah, we have some football, our Washington football team talk today, and then we have some Panthers talk. And the reasoning behind that is obviously we have got PJ Walker and Hideki just seeing what's going to happen with them. Yeah. You know, you got Ron Rivera now with the Washington football team. I ton of the offensive coach. We have all now moved from when cam was in Carolina with the Panthers to the Washington football team. It seemed in this Alex Smith, a GQ interview. He did this week talking about his comeback. He felt very unwanted to be coming back to the Washington football team felt like they maybe were already had moved on from him. You know, where he came back, you know, he performed, well, I think he was five and one or six and one. And then obviously didn't play in that playoff game where, you know, we saw Taylor play. And, and so it was just interesting where, you know, if Alex Smith isn't coming back. Yeah. Do they get cam Newton? What's going on with Taylor? That's kind of, I just have my eyeballs at Washington right now. Cause I do think that's our best chance. I don't feel good for PJ and Carolina. So I think that Taylor in Washington is our best chance right now to see some actual quarterback play from XFL teams. What do you think about the Smith thing? I put a quote here. If you wanted to, just to kind of glance at it. Yeah, I mean, in the GQ universe. He said they didn't see it. They didn't want me there. They didn't want me to be part of it. They didn't want me to be on the team. The roster didn't want to give me a chance. I mean, this is all perception. Like really, it could be an Alex Smith is kind of maybe. I've always like, I've always not remembered this, but sometimes I need a reality check in. It's a scenario where people tell me, you know, the way. You feel about how people view you could be all internal. Like Alex Smith is not a spring chicken. He's he's, you know, he's almost 37. I remember him when he was playing in college. And he came back from a severe leg injury that almost cost him his life. Why wouldn't a football team. It's a business at the end of the day. It's not personal. Alex. It's a business. So why wouldn't they move on? And I understand, like, you know, This is an emotional thing for you and you want to come back and you want to prove that you can compete at this level, but it's a business. It is a business. And you can't take these things so personally, because they're not sure when you're going to come back, they have to plan for the future because they got to play football long after you retire. So. I don't you. You know, this, this whole thing where he's saying they didn't see, they didn't want me there. That might've been perception. I don't know if that was something that, that. He F he assumed, or if it was just something like Ron Rivera is like, dude, we will want you here. And if that was the case, then why do they play you six games or seven games? Whenever it was, it's just interesting. I mean, I think, you know, people obviously are, are holding out for Taylor. You know, we just heard today, Russell Wilson could, you know, I mean, there's like. Like it's. I mean, he, he, you know, what's up is down with down is up either the, I would it, if we're going to get hypothetical here and the X of L off season, I know M you know, Mark on his podcast was to doing a little bit more like hypothetical schedules for next season and stuff. That's great too. But if I'm going to hypothesize, this is kind of where my mind goes, you know, PJ and Caroline, that Washington football, just to kind of give you a mindset. Okay. What's rethinking here, putting all this stuff on. Just, I like keeping an eye on, you know, at least in potential teams where we could see some play. You're saying about potential schedules. Like. I mean, hypothetically. Yeah. Like a Mark on news had this week had said, okay, well next year, you know, what could potentially, the team schedules look like opening weekend and stuff. This is a way to kind of like fill time. And I'm like, you know, And that's great too. And, you know, whatever we're doing to fill time in the off season, but that's kind of where my mind goes is, you know, I watched football every day and when I hear it, you know, With the chargers with storm Norton there, you know, with a Washington football team, with the Panthers, with these, that's where my mind goes is I would at least, you know, this is at least stuff that's going on in the news right now that is tangentially related to XFL players that we might be watching. So that's where my mindset goes. No, that makes sense. On the XFL news. McMahon is claiming that Andrew luck shared XFL info with his brother-in-law who was an NFL agent. This is, this is interesting. So have you guys are in a, you know, with all of our, like, I think his brother is Andrew luck. Well, the sun is Andrew luck is done. Is Andrew luck. Yeah. All over. Shared. Oh, w his brother in law, William Wilson. That's what it is. So if you are interested in this, this is, I know we've been covering the extra lawsuit for a while with Vincent. I read through this whole thing multiple times, this is a Yahoo sports article. It just came out is the best. Recap, I've seen so far really painting the picture for both sides about why you might side with Vince. Why you might say with all of our, I want you. I, I do want to read part of this. I know there's a lot at word, heavy stuff here, but I especially want Paul to read this first paragraph and you'll see why. I already can see why. Among new allegations brought against luck. Alpha insists that luck repeatedly engaged in unauthorized disclosure of confidential XML information to his brother-in-law William Wilson. Wilson was a prominent agent in at Wasserman media group. Okay. Now you're going to get taxed. Where he served as executive vice president co-head of the football division. And since then he has become CEO and secretary general of us soccer luck is accused of sharing XML requests for proposals, meeting notes, presentations, draft contracts, and analysis of players, as well as attorney, client privileged information. Including draft contracts and analysis of contracts. You allegedly disclosed these reported trade secrets and sensitive materials without McMahon's consent. So, yeah, so. I tell her screaming in the mic and blew everything out and the air I'm so sorry. There. Ah, yeah, it just, I just a couple of notes first, you know, we did the Western media thing a couple of weeks ago, Redbird that they're a, you know, a player talent agency. We didn't know if that was news or nights centers. Theme is still floating around all. Alex brother used to work for him now he's not anymore. I just, that doesn't matter at all to any of this, but it was just kind of distinct to you. But the interesting thing about this is Vince is alleging that all of our luck shared. You know, privileged, confidential stuff with his brother and you know, whoever else there was already the allegations, all of our luck was using his company issued phone for personal stuff as well. So it's really just trying to paint the picture of why Vince might be upset with Oliver as well. Why in why Vince. Feels like he's right. Righteous in terminating all of her, but I mean, this is still going to play out. I don't. In this little article, it says the judges accepted Lux request for all documents and communications, including emails held by alpha about him and his job performance. So that's, you know, That's some stuff, the lawyers are gonna look over. Lox lawyers are gonna look over and be like, Hey, you know, they got you dead to rights, or they're gonna be like, this is stupid. And who knows, like, that's, that's another question. Like it's so easy. It's so easy to doctor. Doctor these things. Well, the most interesting thing about it is right here, where they go. So they need lock, wants them to share the evidence about what's going on because the big claim was that luck went incommunicado as the coronavirus pandemic began. But the, the question is, was Vince also available at all during that? Like, he's throwing it back where he's saying, Hey, you know, I'm either went home to be with my family when COVID and all that started. Like, were you even around doing anything either? It's really throwing it, like. Yeah, I want you all ever wants them to supply this stuff to even show like why the fact did me being gone, even having operations at all at that point when everything was falling apart. I think this goes back to the idea that Vince. How hands on he is with WWE and how he like. You know, you hear stories about from Bruce Prichard and Vince Russo, how they work. You know, 16, 17 hours a day. And if Vince isn't sleeping, then you better not be sleeping. I think this is, might be the same thing where Vince was expecting Andrew luck to kind of have that same dedication. Didn't. And maybe that's where he feels like he was incommunicado because it took him, you know, an extra hour to reply to a text message or an email. Vince McMahon is also the same person that he has the nuts on the private plane that he flies on. And you're not allowed to put your fingers in the nuts and grab them out. You have to pour them into your hand from the Nepal. I mean, Vince is very like neurotic when it comes to things in his purview, in his business. I guess I'm just biased. And I don't want Vince to win this because I think Vince is not a good person. Oh, no, I agree. I just, the last thing here, all of our like feels the alpha was on the brink of a pandemic induced bankruptcy, and it saw an opportunity to concoct trumped up charges as a way to escape sizable financial expenses. Which was Luxe, hefty contract. He also charged that McMann illegally reneged on an irrevocable and unconditional guarantee. The alpha would pack. So it's just, it's just interesting that, that that's still going on. I mean, obviously we're working on that, but I just thought it's on the Yahoo sports articles. So if you're someone that is really interested in this, I know it's kind of hit or miss with the XFL fans and whether they, you know, you want to get into this old lawsuit and all that kind of stuff. I think it's fascinating because. I just I've followed Vincent man for most of my life in terms of wrestling and everything else. But that is a great article on Yahoo sports about that. All right, we're gonna take a quick break, come back and discuss some more NFL news right after this. And we're back. Back. Panthers clearing cap space to make a run at Deshaun Watson. The Panthers have released a four players. [unknown]. Juan Short, Stephen Weatherly, Trey, Boston, and Michael. Powardi Palo Verde. That's a weird name. Yep. The name. They created 19.9 million of cap space, bringing the teams total to 20.5 million. I don't think that like was, was Carolina on Deshaun's list. I, I don't know if he, well, Deshaun doesn't have a list. Russell has a list, right? Russell has the bears. Those two, I thought Deshaun had Jetson Miami on it. Yeah. I agree with that. Well, I mean, apparently there's, I mean, this was a draft. She made everyone who was reporting this one and there was, it was like a bloody Tuesday or so. I can't remember what day this all came out, but she ended up quick texted about it too to that. Panther's really clear in shop trying to make room to get, you know, Deshaun in there. Yep. I. Wow. I don't. There's there's $20 million. They've got to clear too. Yeah, there's $20 million. I've got to clear too. That's Teddy Bridgewater. You're gonna have two quarterbacks. You gonna play the Eagles. You're gonna play like the bears, having all this money on the books for your quarterbacks. That's not good for a small market team on Carolina to have that much money in quarterbacks. You're not gonna win anything. No, it's also not, you know, I mean, at this point, You know, you got PJ, you got the number eight draft pick, you know, are we really bringing in an outside quarterback at that point? Like, I mean, you know, our, our, the Panthers in the position to go for it. You know, do all they need is a good QB and the Panthers make a run at it. I don't think so. I mean, it's not like, I don't think the Panthers or championship teams, you know, might as a quarterback. So that's why wouldn't you just, I would, I would either build with PJ or build with the new quarterback of some kind then. Dump this huge money on it. And are they, are they in the, I mean, there's, there's some quarterbacks that are going to be available in the draft. You got Justin Fields. Trevor Lawrence is not gonna fall down to you. You got Justin Fields. You got the guy from North, North Dakota state. I can't remember his name off hand. I'm sure. Sounds right. Isn't he? One of the big ones. I guess someone's going to probably, you know, send me a message like, Oh, It's this guy. Probably this guy I work with that says that making fun of his favorite football player, who was Carson Wentz. Is the same thing as making fun of my religion. That's the same thing for him. So I don't get that, but I guess there's some quarterbacks in the draft and Carolina might want to test that instead. And what's with will Greer. They drafted him too. Like, what are they doing? It really is a mess there. The other just note on this is Teddy Bridgewater unfollowed the Panthers on social media and his account is private. So that is. That's kind of the thing to do now. Deshaun Watson a couple of weeks ago, took all the texts and stuff off his social media and just said like for business in Greece, here's my agent and Teddy Bridgewater. I'm following everything and send all that private, so interesting notes. I mean, I would like a little more stability in Carolina. Yeah. I think. I don't know, I, the question was is PJ make it through this other season and then does he eventually make its way back to the XFL? I get asked that all the time. I mean, is it better at this point or is he getting a better career, a paycheck just sitting on the bench in Carolina. I don't think, I don't think. I don't think he wants to be a $20 million benchwarmer. I don't, you know, Oh, you mean PJ? I'm sorry. Yeah. Teddy. I don't know. I think PJ wants to play. Other than PJ wants to prove himself. PJ wants to prove himself to get that big deal. And. This, this is becoming a log jam there. And I there's no chance PJ's going to see the field. If they got both the Sean Watson and Teddy Bridgewater under contract, like PJ Walker is better off. Asking for his release. And going about his way and going to a spring football league, the XFL next year. That's. That might be the way to go for PJ. Go back to the XFL. I am really genuinely excited when we get to announcing coaches and the quarterbacks and stuff. I do feel like, you know, I had some cursory knowledge, you know, when the first XFL draft, but just now having covered spring league, having covered fingernail football, all these things, I do really feel like we're going to have our pulse on kind of like, Oh yeah, that was a great guy. That was a good person to get. Where maybe before, like I certainly wouldn't have felt comfortable hosting an XML podcast two years ago when, when kind of all this stuff went about. But I do feel like, you know, Knowing Brian's got knowing MacLeod, Bethel Thompson, you know, knowing these guys. I'll feel a little bit more confident about talking about some of these spaces. Rightfully so. Would that being said, like, I threw out. I threw out a possibility cause this thing broke late and I was like, this is ridiculous daily stark.com. And I was like, What do you use? But apparently, you know, there was some chatter that Russell Wilson wasn't happy his camp. Reached out to the Seahawks and said, The said to trade them to, like, there were some teams that were listed that Russell wasn't interested in. Cause his agent Mark Rogers came back. And said Rogers told the Seahawks he wants to play in Seattle, but if there's a trade considered, there's four teams. Of course, Russell has a no trade clause. There's four teams that he would waive the frayed clause. Four. And that would be Dallas new Orleans, Las Vegas. More Chicago and people will say Las Vegas, cause Siara wants a residency. But those are the 14 minutes. Those are the four teams that, you know, That he is considering. I can see why the saints, the saints. If the saints could make the deal, make the deal. James is not the answer. Well, it's Amy says, and neither is. Taste them taste them. So. You know, if, if this word that leaks out, that Wilson's interested in new Orleans. New Orleans needs to call. They need to make that deal. Yeah. They've got a great offensive line. They need to make that deal. Russell Wilson in new Orleans puts them back in the super bowl. It's it'd be so weird. I mean, and the reason why Wilson, obviously Paul and I are both Seahawks fans. I mean, it is it having seen Russell in the CX uniform for like eight years now, nine years. I mean, it'd just be, it would be. It wouldn't be a stab in the heart as the earth shattering, you seem brain unit, a different unit forum at that point. I mean, rustles had just been, so he's been entrenched in Seattle for years, but I do feel like he's overpaid. And they said, eh, they were saying to the, if you left the Seahawks, it would be the largest cap hit in NFL history of video that before June 1st. I mean his contract and let's, let's be clear. Let's let me get this out there. His contract single-handedly broke up the lead. Boom. It did. They couldn't renew Sherman. I couldn't pay Sherman what he was worth. Earl Thomas got upset. I mean, cam chancellor, that was an unfortunate injury. But that was what happened that broke that contract alone, broke up the Legion of boom. And the only one left really is Bobby Wagner. Well that, that contract. It, it hurt the offensive line. They couldn't go out and get offensive line players to protect Russell. So, I mean, if Russell wants to protection renegotiate the contract, Let the sea Hawks go out and get the production for you. Otherwise, just trade. Just ask Russell. Hey, do you want to go to Houston? We'll get to Shawn and return. It was interesting. You had sent me that article today talking about that. It was like the post when the Seahawks had lost the super bowl on the post and how, you know, Sherman was so upset and was having a fist fight. I wish he shoots her and brought this level of, of heat. The fan controlled football. He, he could not see him. Carrot bothered last, he went on that first Skype call the first game, but it's like, okay. You know, we know, I know Richard, the heated guy, like let's get a little more activity here going on with fan controlled, Richard. I agree. I mean, I think. Well, I mean, I think maybe Richard Richard was a little heated on the fan control game when the rest. That fifth down, he was kind of upset. Just a couple other notes here at camera. Sergeant Payne is going to be going up from the renegades. He's going to be going up to the outlets. He's a big signing. He was a big renegades guy and the XFL, and then a CFL announced this week that they are putting their, they're getting all the protocol ready to go for the CFL. So there has been. There's still been some question of if they were going to make a run this year. I mean, I know they're signing the guys, but last year they decided late that they weren't going to do the season. We famously broke the news. I did shout out to a Cinco on the podcast that they were, I'm not doing the CFL. But they're supposed to be rolling that here soon with, with all the protocol for the games and stuff. Cool. ESPN is pushing back against NFL demanding a hundred percent increase in TV rights payments. The reason why I put this on, I just people like talking about the NFL TV ratings and rights and stuff and how that relates to the XFL step, right? Because you know, sports and people are paying money and all of this. And it's saying that Disney is kind of rejecting this, you know, NFL is really trying to Jack up the price. And, you know, I mean, I know NFL is King, but just what, what does that dictate to the rest of it? You know, sports and football and stuff. That's kind of why that's in there. So what, what do you think about Disney pushing back? They are carrying the bulk of the games with [unknown]. Double headers on Monday night and whatever, but they say here, you know, we're looking at long-term trends of sports and all this kind of stuff. So what do you think about NFL? Maybe not being able to command the money that they have been. The ratings prove that they can't command the money. The ratings are down. They are. That's that's, that's a given that's a fact. I don't think they can demand more money with the ratings being down because. ESPN at the end of the day has to sell commercials. To fill those marketing, those, those television rights. They pay for. They have to sell commercials to get that money back. And to sell those commercials to get that money back, they need to show the ratings. And if the ratings are down, They're not going to be able to make as much money back. So I I'm. You know, The big mouse, the big, bad mouse, Mickey mouse. I. I all always normally cringe when I hear about greed from the mouse house, but in this situation, They have to make money. It's a business. And if they're paying more for like this, for the television rights and making less than the, on the back end for the commercials. They've got tons of money. I get that. But they need to turn a profit. That's the whole point. And if they can't then. Don't do it. It was interesting. I mean, the super bowl this year was the F. You know, down over 20 years. I mean, it was, it was historically low w which was baffling to me just because of COVID and people being at home. And I mean, I know that. Kansas city, but you know, you got two faces of the league. It just was interesting to me how down the ratings were this year. And I don't know if it's still on the, the social justice issues and all that. I mean, I understand that that was an issue that plagued them for a couple of years. I just don't know. In 2020, 20, 21. You know, is Kaepernick kneeling still? I mean, is that still an issue that's dragging down the ratings? I don't know. I think the ratings are down because people want to watch football games. I think it's the same reason why the WB ratings are down too, is because the fans, seeing the fans reaction to hearing the noise as part of the ambiance part of the atmosphere to an NFL game. It's hard to watch that with piped in crowd noise, it's hard to watch any sport with piped and crowd noise. Trust me. Aye. I really didn't care all season with the NFL. I mean, I definitely understand that that is something that people would have an issue with that. I mean, I couldn't. I, it really didn't affect me at all. I think once the game started, but it is interesting. It's just a anyway, you know, actually fell. That's been the thing for a long time. They need the big TV ratings either. Vince kind of took it on the chin and was going to do a couple of years. You know, they were going to cover their own production expenses and then get reimbursed with the, a part of the ads. And, you know, Danny and the rock bought the XFL wanting to have a big TV contract. And so that's why I just bring this out, like, keep an eye on this is, you know, if NFL ratings are down and here as Danny and the rock coming in, and they've got five weeks of the spring league thing that, you know, it started with 3 million did go down to 1.1. I mean, I know they run, you know, the Fox, the ESPN, the Ochoas or whatever, but anyway, it's interesting. I see where you're going with this, where the Clippers, the LA Clippers were a terrible team. A terrible franchise. And the fact that they got sold for $2 billion, all of a sudden made people go well, wait a second. The Lakers are currently valued at 2.4 billion. If the Clippers got valued at 2 billion. That makes our franchise worth more money. So you're, I see the correlation. I see where you're going with that. Yeah. I mean, NFL is down and here's Danny and the rock. I mean, the only reason they bought this is to make a profit on it. Right. They didn't. You know, and obviously they're going to build it over years, but I don't think they're going to be there. I don't think they're going on a 15 year build here. I mean, they're going to go on a one to three year build to kind of get this up to something that's going to make money. And if they, if they have less leverage coming in, because NFL ratings are down, it's just interesting. Yep. Finally generals, offensive lineman and a champion from TSL Blake camper. And assigned with the Toronto Argonauts. So another person go into the CFL friend of the show. Brian Scott, I always like when he's tweet and stuff, that was one of his buddies. You know, the big championship generals team he's going up. So we'll keep an eye on all the CFL staff coming up. And like we said, they're going to come their protocol getting ready. So we're, we're going to be covering the CFL here, headed into this. Early summer I think is when they start. So, all right, quick break, then we're going to get into our fan controlled football stuff. Yeah, well, we'll see how we do. Welcome back Bob Barbara Dunkelman that's sounds like a fake name, but joins wild days is the creative director director at rooster teeth. Joins their ownership group or. So this came of course again, like right after we recorded the last Thursday, but she's, but. Rooster teeth. I think they're a comedy troupe. I think they do serve with Greg and the kind of funny guys anyway, so this definitely made more sense than the Rachel. Lindsay from the, from the bachelorette. You know, Signing on that we also had. Dalvin cook joined the zappers. His brother, Anthony Jones is, is already playing in the bubble. So that kind of made sense. And then just today, before we started recording, I'm going to butcher this name. It's he's on Twitter. Steve will do it. It's Steven. Hello. D Dillo Lorene R D deli Arnez. I dunno. There you go. I he's in the American YouTube or, and Dez like extreme challenges, whatever. So he's doing them, the zapper IHSS. It's still and we're going to get into all this. It still feels weird. We're still adding people, all this stuff. So the big, and we'll get into the notes and stuff. The big thing today that came out. Is friend of the show is Zach with grid iron gala, a gallery. He is Poesy. And that, you know, he was teasing his episode for tomorrow for it today, when this came out and he's talking about fan controlled football and you know, and the be the season, there's been a lot of talk week, one week two, the Bay, the season, our Bay, the league, the Bay, the sea is and the beta season. And I D I literally just asked her the question. I said, Is, was that ever a thing that it was a beta league before week one of the league, because I certainly never heard that. Now if it, if it is I'm, I'm welcome to be corrected about that. If, if, if, if you know Patrick DS who's been on the show, if he had said that a bunch, you. I will eat Crow, but I don't feel like that was ever a thing until they launched. Boy. Oh boy. This thing, spiraled out, Patrick DS ended up coming on the threads. Basically confirming, there's already going to be a season two that ended up being breaking news and they basically called this season. I version 1.0, but like an. Of an app release, not of like a football league. And so my, my comment, and then I want to get your thoughts is so like, You know, when Steve jobs announced the iPhone one. Right. Right. Yeah. Sorry that zoom didn't pass the audio through when they announced the iPhone one, it was still the iPhone one. It was the iPhone one and it was affluent. But it wasn't like the iPhone. Beta release. And then we, you know, I mean, they put this out and they sold money for it. And that was kind of why I made the joke on here. Like, well, maybe we'll do a Bay that podcast. And then if this isn't, it. You know what I'm saying? But he just seems like. And I understand that there's going to be a need to refine and adjust and whatever. And I think the difference is, and we'll get into some comments later from some viewers of the league. Is. Where you've put this on. You only get one chance to do this, right. And there is so much skepticism when it comes to spring football leagues. Like the XFL, like the spring league, like ML F. F B like all these others, you know, the AAF, I mean, everyone has dealt with this fan controlled football is no different. And I understand that they want to be non-traditional. They want to be their own thing. They don't want to exist with everything else. I understand that. But, but the history of having spring football leagues is right with a lot of failure and a lot of, you know, not working out. And so when you have this chance to come on, Spoiler alert. Would you think that viewership was up or down this week compared to last week? Fan controlled football games? Down. A lot. A lot. It was down a lot. I mean, there's no way, there's no way to sugarcoat that. It was like 34,000 concurrent last week. And it was like, I have the notes in here. It was like 14 or 18,000 this week. I'm sure there'll be somebody on Twitter that will be like, well, you have to take into account and try to correct you on this will not mention any names, but you know, Who will, you know, not understand the conflict of interest bias thing here. That's going on. And try to defend this. And I give it AI and the XFL went down too. And people talk about that and that's fine. The difference is. Where you're trying to fix rules alive on the fly. You're not ever going to get back those viewers later. Right. And that's the difference is, is when the XFL not to be in, I hate that. Like we're the XFL Mark has and like, Because at this point, we cover all the spring football leagues equally. I mean, they, and I obviously, like, we're not going to change the name, but like, if we could have gone back, whether it been like. You know, for the love of football or whatever, BS just to cover because now. [Unknown] like, you can't talk. It was like, Oh, I cover more fricking fan controlled football than any other podcasts. I mean, certainly longer than any of the ones that we, whatever. And you're never going to get back to those viewers. And so the XFL, you know, they did months and months of pre-season, whatever. So when the first game was on ABC, it was clean. And it was professional. You know, their score. The biggest controversy the XFL ever had in terms of play on the field, was that where PJ Walker and one of the last games like spike the ball too early. And there was three seconds left on the clock. And that was like the supposed to be like a league breaking thing. And if you, if we talk about some of the stuff that happened on Saturday night, very. Not even close to that level of, of game changing controversy. That happened. So I just wanted to talk about that. They, they did get good downloads. They said they got a quarter million app downloads. That was good. They said week one viewership. It's somewhere between 700,000 at 1.5 million friend of the show. Jay chase Baker. Put on Twitter. Hey, we got 1.5 million viewers last week. I was like, that's great. So I added that. And then during the podcast, or during that, the broadcast of the league, Patrick D said they got like 700,000 viewers because it's co current, but you know, it's. You know, it's like 40,000 co-occurrence, but then, you know, some of those people were on and some off, so it valued more than that. So it's somewhere. The league's first week was somewhere between 700001.5 million. That's a big gap. Well, I, I mean, I would imagine chase Baker, probably. I would trust Patrick DCE and the management culture. To what Patrick said that it would cause her to like, I understand what chase is trying to do, trying to be a cheerleader for the, the sport here, but. I'm gonna, I'm gonna go ahead and say it's closer to 700,000. Yeah. So the two games. We just won the first game, 38 at 30 to 28 against the wild ACEs. That we got the big controversy of that game. And then the glacier boys won the second game, 30 to 28. Paul's all game's going to end in 30, 28 scores. Now is that what's hot. I will tell you this li. It's kinda like you score the ball or you score the ball or you score the ball. And then whoever has the ball last is, is generally going to be the winner. It's kind of how these games have gone. Next week as zappers wild ACEs, glacier boys, and the beasts are playing beats are undefeated right now. And these apertures have yet to win. Miro was on the, on the broadcast. It was good to see friend of the show. Euro on there. Howard on the show, the show. He kept going Clinton flowers. Q flowers, Q flowers. Cause I think Quentin has that on his Jersey, but I'm like Miro D know his name. Like I understand you're in the bubble, you did the protocol, but you actually know the team players on your team. I know that you're a coward Bureau, but do you know who you draft? Yeah. So the two and all these other notes. The two big controversies of this game, there was a huge blown interception by the wild ACEs. The refs called it down. And that ended up going back to the beast and then they would win the game. The other controversy was that. In the last minute of the game. The clock was supposed to stop, like after each play similar to like the XFL has a comeback period. The last two minutes. And fan controlled football. It's the last minute. And then I think it's really the last 30 seconds. I think the clock stops at the minute and then at 30 seconds and under it stops every play. The problem is. Both of these games came down to the wire, right to the last play to the last, the second game won in overtime. The first game won on the last play at the last second. So what happened is the clock didn't stop in the first game. So between the two games. They decided, Oh no, that's actually what, that's what it was supposed to be. We're going to stop the clock now. And a minute and then stop it. After every play at 30 seconds left. They changed it between the two games between the two games. Okay. I don't even need to say anything. Well, so, so I, I tweeted this and I. Josh knows that we, we talked privately offline about this. I talked to a lot of people about this. Being weak or not. Change change the rules for next week. You cannot change the rules between games on the same flip and night. And not only that, but like, you're just like sitting there going, Oh, that didn't work in the first game. Hey guys, let's change it for the second. This is, this is weird. This is like, come on. And so all of the controversy this week with a. You know, Greg was very upset with the wallet ACEs because of the blown call. There was so, so, you know, they changed the clock and then there was no review ref review period at all. And, and a lot of the focus rightfully so was on that was on the blown RAF call that the RAF. You know that they, there was no chance for the fans. The fans were supposed to be able to vote overturn it. That was taken off. But my biggest thing was, I don't even give it an F about the, the interception. At that point, I had the clock have stopped every set, you know, the bees ran the clock down on their last drive, which if that clock had stopped after each play. The wild they is this where the, how the chance to go back and on the beast drives Zack with Gridiron gallery pointed out. It went from the second down to the fourth down. Like they, they literally liked the rat. I, they missed it down and the RAF called it like four it down as it, it was just a mess. The whole end of the first game was a mess. I was ended the game. I was watching the game. We're covering the game. So much so that I really had a hard time watching the second game. Dorothy called me. So I was on the phone with her, but like, it really just took so much oxygen out of the room that they would, I don't care that it's a Bay, the league, but if the rule, if the, if the points are going to matter, if the games are going to matter, if any of this is, has to matter at all, it only matters if it all exists together. And is concise. Like we voted on rules before the season starts and we set them and we don't change them just because, Oh, well that didn't work. Let's change the rules. Like they're looking at this, like they keep saying beta beta, beta leak, Bailey. They're looking at this like a video game. Like they're doing like blood bug fixes on the fly. That's not the way this is going to work. Again, that's fine. If you're developing an app, if you wanted to develop a competitive thing, it's like wrestling, we watch wrestling all these, like it only matters that someone is champion in this fake league because yeah, you can delete all that ahead of that. Is because we all like buy into this and we make it be a thing. And so if, if it's not a fit, if we are changing the rules, Willy nilly, It's like in WWE that one of the biggest things they have for years. Was they, they had the one champion on the one show and then they made two different shows. They made Ron snack down and they go, well, We need another championship. So here's, here's a title we're going to give it to triple H and he's going to be the world heavyweight champion. And, and, and, you know, in this fake BS world of wrestling, that was a huge deal because people for, you know, a hundred years had believed that the one champion and the one belt had gone through. And it doesn't matter. WWE doesn't matter. It's a, it's a fake it's entertainment, but it matters to the point that you, you. Hold it accountable and you make it matter. And when you change the rules mid game, I don't care what it is at the exit validated. If anyone did it. It totally. It ruins the narrative that you're trying to create. Yeah, sorry. I was coughing a little bit there. The, the water went down the wrong pipe. I'm out of words. I don't. You're texting me, I'm at work and I'm like, What are they doing? What's happening here? Like I just, and then I looked on Twitter and I'm seeing the wild ASIS tweet about the interception thing. And it's like, I don't know. And then the whole first week, how they did the, you can't do the fifth down thing. Like, it just seems like they don't have a handle on the way they want the league to run. Which I think is okay. If you're doing it off TV, if you're doing it, not asking for money, if you're doing it, not. Bleeding viewers from last week to this week. I mean, let's just be honest and you know, you can't develop something. I just don't think you're going to get a lot of these people back, Matt commence. I probably should say. Matt fry. One of our. With me he's, he's one of the honors and he is with the wild ACEs, a big fan. He bought into the league and he, and this was about the whole replay thing that they had the replay and then they took it out and that tweeted, he goes, if it's supposed to be something that's in the league and it's not ready, then maybe the league wasn't ready to start. Seriously reconsidering my investment. Wow. I tweeted. And so Rob for Rudy, he is one of the co-founders and the CEO. Cause I, I tweeted, I go, I thought we voted about this fan replay thing. We talked about it on the podcast. I thought we already decided this and he tweeted to me and he goes, correct. And, and we tried last week, the process took five minutes and didn't work, which is why we actually, I Sohrob candidate this week waiting five minutes for decision is trash. We're going to have to change it. That been week three and use a Twitch poll in real time, which will be fast and transparent. That's fine, but you can't. Like. I just don't think you can, you can be Willy nilly about this, and I think you need to go, I think you need to ride the four weeks out as it is. And then reevaluate. I don't think when you have points on the line, when you have people investing, when you're trying to call a championship, all this stuff, you can do that. I wanted to get your reaction to this. We'll skip are the best. Josh Josh friend of the show. Excellent news have rather he tweeted replay. Isn't an integral part of the football and even the league. Oh, I lost it there. Cause you, and even. So if people want to compare that the FCF to other leagues have problems with it, it's week two, the lack of replay affected one play. Give it time. If the lead doesn't handle it, then there will be cause for panic. This is, this is this. I'm sorry, but this is like, You're defending something you're supposed to be covering this. Without bias. You're defending it. And you need to, you need to, you need to call it as it is. That's the first rule you need to take. You know, I know you want to believe in something. We want to believe in it too. But you have to be critical. And this is not critical. This is like letting them off the hook. You're not holding them accountable. Also replay is a tremendously integral parts football like half the half, the frigging NFL games is replaced. The second game, there really wasn't much to talk about. They, they won an overtime. That was exciting. He was like college over time. They, they had a quote from Manzell talking about the NFL that he said, Oh, it Manzella. Zelle is out. So after all of this coverage of him coming on, he left the bubble. He had to get his wisdom teeth out. So Mandela's done. I assume, I assume he's not going to come back in the quarantine for a week. So Mandela's done all of that, that we didn't have. Maybe he'll be back for season two, you know, maybe he'll be, I doubt it. He said, if I got an offer to go back to the NFL or any other team that any other league that plays serious, competitive football, I have zero interest, zero desire. My heart is not into it anymore. I don't want football the way I used to love football over the course of the last year. I've come to peace with that. That is your style. That's your star recruit or. Baggage of football. That's who you put all the money behind and create a franchise tags for. He's like, screw it. I don't care about this anymore. Why? So you have the face of your league saying I don't care about this anymore. Why should anyone else. Yeah. They did confirm all four teams are sold out. So th th that's good, they've sold all the ownership stuff, or they might release more of that later. The other only other notes with this is this week. They are adding a, another franchise tag. So now the fans were able to vote. For between one of two top vote, getters to franchise. So now three of the players, each are tagged for each team Mandela's out. So I guess they're just down a player. And then there was like a draft for six players. Which probably made sense how it should've been the whole time, but they just, again, they're implementing this on the fly. That to me doesn't bother as much changing the franchise tags as it does changing the rules on the game. Yeah. In between games like you want to keep teams together eventually. Do you want to start seeing the chemistry and you want to have teams together? And I like the idea of adding the franchise. A positive. No, I think that's fine. I think it's fine. I think you can add that. I think that makes sense. I would do. Vince and I Vince, all football scout. We had tied about this all from week one, yo week one, you should get one week, two week, four week five, sit in them. I have the find the week you're only drafting, you know, five players. And you have the rest of you where you keep set. I definitely being that totally make sense. And again, that's the kind of stuff you can mess with all you want a week, but you can't, you can't mess with the play on the field. That is, that is paramount to what this is about. No, you can't. Draft one. Well, I see only 33,000 viewers, but 3000 people viewing this draft. You're still getting people to tip. Dedicate time to this religiously. That's a good sign. It's a good sign. Yeah. You know, it's good. It seems to be again. What was really upsetting to me was last week, I was so busy, tweeting and stuff. And following the league this week, I really did. Really try to sit and watch it. It's really hard for me on Twitch with everything. The simulcast it's really hard for me as a non-millennial to watch this game. I mean, I'm, you know, I'm really trying to watch it. And it was exciting. And then when they came down to the end and they changed the rules, I really did just kind of turn it off. And I was like, I can't read your millennial though. Well, then I'm not like these boots. What are these, these are zeros or whatever that you. Matt always says that this league isn't designed for us, it's designed for which is fair. I mean, it's totally fair. I mean, I, I take it, you know, we're too old again. You'll have to listen to anything we have to say about it, but I'm just someone that covers all these, all football leagues. You know, I want them to succeed. I want all of this to succeed. I don't ever want, you know, I'm this critical and the exit fell on this stupid hat. And the lack of news is I am that. I mean, I'm an equal opportunity criticizer. No, that's, that's a fair that's and that's the way it should be. It shouldn't be defending these rule changes and shouldn't be going out and saying, Oh, well, you know, if you're covering this, cover it and be critical of it and call out things like if they want to PR. Look, don't call it football. Then stop calling the football. Call it, whatever you want, just don't call it football. Full stop. It doesn't seem like they want to have it. Be called football, but they want to use the football. Likeness. Aye. It's. Aye. Video game. Yeah, and that's fine if you, if you want to exist in your own and you don't want to have, I absolutely. That that's fair, but you're still going to be drawing on the same viewers. You're still going to be drawing on the same pole. Players. You're still going to be drawing on a lot of this stuff. So you don't, you can be your own thing, but you still exist in like, we could be the most radical XFL podcast in the history of the world and not, I don't even know what that would look like, but you still exist with all of these other things and people are going to compare and rightfully so. And I think that the things that. That people are criticizing fan controlled football about, I, I do think are fair sometimes. And I think that letting them off the hook is, is not right. I think that you get, and especially sorry, especially when they're in the bubble. I think it's. My microwave. I think it's really easy to get an echo chamber going on and you sit there. You're like, Yeah, this is, Oh yeah. Yeah. No, this is great. Oh, let's do that. Do that, do that. And it's the same with WIB and it's the same with all this stuff. And I think you need to have outside opinions, calling things like they are. And like I said, when we have Matt who's. You know, has paid money to be a part of this. And when he feels upset, He is, I guarantee you not the only person, because that's a pretty level guy. And if he's tweeting that out, that means that he's really upset about it. Yeah, and I mean, we be doing you a disservice. If we didn't criticize what was going on in the field. We would be doing the listeners a disservice. If we didn't say these things, we need to criticize. If we're just going to pass the buck and be like, Oh, no big deal. That's fine. And you're right. It is an echo chamber. They're listening to themselves going, Oh, this is great. And if they don't want to listen to us, like on, on Twitter. There's another thing. They. Talk so much crap about the XFL and they denigrated and they, they bash it and they like want to distance himself and don't have to lead that work. You know, the league that we're not going to mention. But there, are you still using the same, like gimmick gimmickry to say that they're the F. They're the elite spring football league. Well, they don't want to play football. Well, they still want to like say, well, those leagues don't matter. We're the only thing, like pick a side. Are you a video game? Are you a football league? This is ridiculous. I don't know what we're doing. Who who put, who put the nicknames on the jerseys first? That's all I'm going to say. Yeah, he gave me it all comes back to rod smart last week. He hate me. Is. And I am serious about this. We're going to get through this season and we are going to have a come to Jesus and we're going to do a fan vote and we're going to see people want to cover this or not anymore. My life would be way easier if we didn't. Never this. I mean, I mean that, like, it would be, my life would be significantly less stressful if we didn't cover this, but I think it's valid. I think that the ideas are implementing the players. You know, we have Gwen flowers, spoiler alert, the best fricking player in the entire fan controlled football. That's won the MVP both weeks is the XFL quarterback. I just spoiler alert for like, whatever leagues don't matter. Quinn flowers didn't get franchise tag got drafted by the fans now he's he was T you know, tag now, but he wasn't taking the first. First week, that was one of the fricking and he wasn't even one of the best XFL quarterbacks. He was the third, I mean, not saying. Rightfully or not, but he was basically the third string Tampa Bay's Viper's quarterback that got cut and had to come back on a fight with this coach. A phenomenal football player has been on the show. And he's the best fricking player you have on the field. One of, I mean, there's tons of talented guys. And one of the best players is from the XFL. So stop denigrating the XFL. Yes. Using the gimmickry stop using a gimmick to like knock the XFL and then say, Oh, well we'll just a beta test in the world or not really football and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like this is, this is. This is, I don't know. I'm with you. I honestly feel like when we talk about this, I feel my stress levels build, because I don't understand any of this. And I, as a 42 year old man should understand the game of football now. Okay. Anyway. Do we want to talk about cam Newton yelling at the kid at the training camp. A quick break and we'll come back and we'll talk about cam Newton yelling at a kid disrespectful kid. Yeah. Okay. Are we good time with yeah. Totally good. Where are we at? An hour. Okay. I mean, I wanna make sure we can go an hour on this crap. That's fine. Hello. Cam Newton. Yelling at a kid because the kid was disrespectful, talking trash. He was, the kid was talking trash. That kid that is, that kids are fingers on football fan, right there. Yeah, my right. It's my right. I'm here for the call. The plays power to the fans. This kid was a cloud. I'm going to yell at cam Newton. Who's rich. Who busted his tail, who's won a national championship. Who's one of, you know, cam Newton has a great resume and you're going to talk trash to cam Newton. Bro. You'll be lucky to even have half of cam Newton's career. And you're talking trash. I understand, like when I was a kid in college, like I used to talk trash about crappy music bands and people will, you know, they got a record deal and I'm like, okay, because a company saw something marketable on them. That's a different thing than an athlete, having skills and being paid for said skills. There's a little bit different than a critique there. A record company saw a band that was marketable and then gave him a deal, had nothing to do with their musical bill. And there's plenty of bands out there that are really popular. Their music sucks. But cam has skills as an athlete. Like cam. Has put in the work. I think he won a junior college championship two at Blinn college in Texas, like cam has put in the work. So you're going to bash him. Because cause he, cause you think he's not like. He's playing the Superbowl kid. You're free. 10 Year for Asian. How many super bowls are you going to play in? You don't know, it's hard to get to the NFL and you're talking trash like that. You probably will never see. You'll probably never see a game. There's no difference between this kid and that guy that poured the milk on him at the Walmart, like a month ago that we cover it. Just doing that for the cloud. I'm just doing it for the views. That's all he was doing. I will put those on Tik TOK. Yeah. And have all my followers like this video, do a dance kid. If you want clout, do a stupid dance on Tik TOK. Like Patrick Maholm stupid brother. And then stop talking trash to cam. I saw it as speaking of dancing. Yeah. They were talking about Gigi. You staying with the Steelers. I was like, get him out of here. No more Corvette Corvette. No, no more Corvette Corvette. He had, they had him on today. They had him on TMZ sports. It's like, isn't it amazing how they just find them out on the street with like bright blue hair, just like ready to talk with a mask on. That's on purpose. You realize that right? It's incredible. He just happened to be there standing in front of a Juju's coming out of a brick and flower in Glendale. Why don't you head over there and talk to him for a second and let's get my client out there. That's what's happening. That's what always happens. But TMZ TMZ has got connections though. Like. I don't want to talk about the salacious stuff the TMZ gets into, you know, Like a connections. They get some, they get some, they get some scoops. W w over, under we cover fingernail football season, too. I'm going to say, I don't think we do. And not, not because like I'm, I'm choosing to make that declaration right now. I'm just saying. Yeah, I, I don't. I don't see the sticking with us. If you've listened to as far in the show, you can DM me. I'm I'm doing soul searching the next, you know, month or two when we get done with this, but you can DM me XFL Mark. And let me know if you, if you think we should be still covering this or not. I don't, I don't know. But on a good note, the Brooklyn nets won their eighth game in a row tonight. So shout out to Brooklyn. That's in five Laker fans, nuts and five. I said it. I said it. Is that it. Thought we had talked about that's it. That's all I hadn't the garbage that mooned really did. I, I bet a lot of time until the Washington foam ball. I've had a lot of times they're the Panther is I think we got the good offer luck update. I mean, I think, I think we're there. I tell you. I mean real talk, like people are getting really like, upset about lack of news. And I hate to be like leading the show with all that stuff if you've made it this far. But I hear from people a lot on Twitter that are really upset that they haven't heard anything yet. Maybe we could reach out to someone like you have a contact over there that chandelier. Public relations that reached out and took a while to get back to you. Maybe you can reach out to them and see if we can get someone on the show to discuss something. I don't know. Yeah, I just, I feel bad because I want. I don't want this resentment. And I do, you know, I think for all the good that. I asked them when like the rock, right. And this is, this is a perfect example, right? It's like, you know, Greg Miller came on the show. Yep. You know, big personnel there, lots of different things. Right. And so, you know, Rightfully. So his priority, you know, we're a lower priority, right? Cause he's doing the last step, you know, same with the rock. And so when you're, it's like, you're trying to get, you're trying to get at like the rock, anything he's going to touch, you know, young rocks doing all this good stuff, but it is hard to like, Focus. You know, hopefully Danny's working on a bunch of stuff, but yeah, I hate to start the show every week with that kind of stuff. But I do think there's a lot of, especially now that young rocks going on every week, the energy drink. I believe as launching next week, the Zola energy drink. And so maybe at that point, there'll be more focused on this, you know? And maybe, you know, just, just send the guy an email, ask him what's going on. If there's anything to report, if there's anything that. We're talking about it. Maybe, maybe it's a situation where they're waiting for this lawsuit to play out, but honestly, like this lawsuit could go on for another 18 months. It really could. Or you're not going to logos. Are you talking to Vincent Oliver? I'm talking to Vince and Oliver. I think that logo thing is going to be done. Fairly quick. They're just going to like change the logos, but like, okay, fine. We'll change the logos. Sorry about that. People think that's the whole that people think that, that, that the logo things will hold up. I've seen a lot of comments about that, that, that, that the logo is such an easy fix though. That's like an easy fix. Sorry. We're we're taking this over now. Sorry. The Vince is a jerk and made logos that look like these logos. Sorry. Yeah, that'd be done with it. Please. Anyway. All right. So we got, I think we did a good job. All right. Thanks for tuning in this week. Of course, XFL show.com/review. To leave us a review, subscribe to us on YouTube. How do they do that? Exit Velo show.com/youtube. You can get this nice misprinted hat. Or you can get the autograph, Chad Ochocinco football. That's a cool thing too. People want the hat. I don't know why, again, I don't get it, but whatever. Yeah. And just today, Chad tweeted, it was like him and it was like smoke hour or whatever. And he had these short shirts. It's on. This is the end of the show. It's all shared as NC 17. And the girls like Chad cute Charlottesville line though bulge. And he was like, cause I'm only, I'm only three inches and he had a little finger. Wow. Or spice up the timeline. Yeah. There you go. We'll be back next week with another episode. Thanks for tuning in. We’ll see you then.

Episode 28 - The Rock Wears Tight Shirts

It's Friday. Welcome to another exfil Mark cast. Thanks for joining us once again, whether you're watching on YouTube or listening via speaker or Apple podcasts or Google podcasts. Whatever it might be. So. How's the internet connection looking right now. It's good. I cannot wait for this at the end of the show. I thought first off, I thought you were going to compliment me on my nice hat. Oh, I didn't notice that. I have, cause I have Paul's other podcasts will house. I have a warehouse hat on because I do think we're going to get into some warehouse, like territory at the end of this show. So I am very excited for that. So, yeah, I figured that just an honor today I would wear the wheelhouse hat on the market. So there you go. We appreciate that. And of course, a wheelhouse, w I L L w I L L H O U Z. Not house like H O U S E H O U Z. Check it out. It's a comedy podcast. Yeah, it's fun. And yeah, we're gonna get, we're getting breaking news today in Paul's life, on the podcast. I'm very excited for the end of the show. We're going to get to all the XFL staff are going to get to everything. And then at the end of the shell, I'm excited to hear this story about Paul's internet connection. Oh, that's great. Yeah, it's great. And by the way, On that note. The shower is currently running. And we'll come back to that in a second. This is as well. Paul Paul is living next to it, quite possibly the most interesting man in the world. So I'm very excited to a terrible. Or worst. Whereas. Anyway. Before we get started today, I wanted to say. Where I'm at right now. It's February, 2021. So it's not February, 2020. I'm currently watching the last dance. I am just finished episode nine and I think MJ and the guys might have it. I'm hoping. I have my thing in my. It's good now I'm, I'm, I'm all in. I'm very, I'm very hyped about this. I remember living through a lot of this now. Steve Kerr hidden the threes and everything. It's all. It's all kind of coming back to my head. I just want to point out that behind every goat. There's a wild cat. Here's an Arizona wild track. Whether it be Steve Kerr. Whether it be a Rob Gronkowski, whether it be, you know, LeBron James with Richard Jefferson. Oh, my gosh. Speaking of wheelhouse there's there's go. Mr Purvis calling. I told them I'm recording. I don't know why he's calling, but we're moving on. No edits anyway, so I, yeah, I'm thrilled. I'm going to watch that tonight. Just phenomenal. I just, all the way around. I mean, even though, you know, like, I mean, cause the thing starts, you know, the bulls win six championships, but every single time it's like, man, like, Oh, okay. Then they came back. It's like, okay, okay. Then they came back, Jordan, you know, that's what I needed to get to get PO the bad guy or that Y you know, it's just, it's, it's a really wild, like. What can I find to get ticked off about this one random player? Oh, he didn't say hi to me at a golf match. Like he's going down, you know? There are no set. Like there's that meme it's like, I took that personally. Like you can go on YouTube and search out. Michael Jackson, Michael Jordan personally. And he will, there's like a five minute clip where he talks about all the things he took personally. I mean, that's a, that's a killer mentality though. That's the kind of mentality you want as a sports player is like, Any kind of perceived slight you take it personally. And you shove it back in their face. I'm not even a sports personality. That's like people that doubt you, like you can't clean that bathroom in 10 minutes. I take that personally. I can't clean that bathroom in 10 minutes. So, yeah, it's good. So just a couple notes here, getting off the show I have for the life of me forever. Tried to get a Taylor. Hi, Nikki Washington football Jersey. The NFL is they're sold out. You know, they don't have any Washington football, cause I'm sure they're like working on the rebrand. Jake Henry. I, he bought a Taylor. Hi, Nikki. On, on the same website that I bought my PJ Walker one, they have a, for any. I know we have a lot of people that listen in, you know, P Ramirez and, and Kevin and all the people that. The air fire.com, where I got my PJ one, they got a really cool high-key Jersey, a battle Hawks. Hi, Nike Jersey that you can get, which is pretty cool. And then I got a Washington football, one off there as well for hi Nikki on there. So. If you're looking for jerseys, Jake Scott, it's a, it's an awesome, I think it's, it's from the exact same seller. I got my PJ Walker one from, so if you are a fan of the battle Hawks and Piney key of whatever, I just. Yeah, hit me up. I'll send you the link, but I got one comment. I'm really excited. It's like 40 bucks. I mean, it's a really low. Pay through PayPal. So it's all, you know, and like I said, we, I have proof in the pudding, you know, we got one bill or trip. It wasn't didn't look bad at all. So there you go. I hit you up. All about that and that. The other thing, I guess right here. The other now. W w we had our big blender last week, you know, we, we have the Western media deal with that with rubber capital Mark with XFL, Nita, sad. For the first time in my life, I put the story on the Google doc that we didn't think related to XFL. Turns out the Western media has a deal with one team. And Oliver luck is part of one team. So it arrives. Redbird has a deal with one team and all of her Loxo, it's the slightest bit tangentially connected, but it is. I just wanted to just throw that out there as well with say you're being a little bit stretch Armstrong right now. A little bit. I had my big wonder. I just wanted to point that out. So I, you know, got, got messages about that. And Mark came at me and, and tweeted that. And so I wanted to point that out that Mark with news have found that connection. So. I w I wanna wax a little philosophical today. About. News XFL news. The, the need for news. What constitutes news. This, this I have seen reports all week. The XFL website is updated. There's new staff. You can, I've seen it on message boards. I've seen it on Twitter. I've seen a lot and everything. The website is not new. I'm just anyone that's listening to this, Paul, I know you probably check it like every other day. Like I do. I just letting you know. The the, the big news came out this week that you can sign up for an email list to get info about tickets for future XFL games. And you can select one of the eight cities. And so the, the, the thinking is right. Okay. These, all these cities, they're all coming back, whatever. I've, this is not news. I filled this out back in August. There is nothing updated about this at all. I know other X of L podcasts have even done stories about this in the last month. This is not new at all, but, but I see. It the, the, the amount of traction that, something like that gets astounds me, but yet, like we had Quintin flowers on last week was that, that was a really good interview. Former XFL. You know, stars and fingers up a ball. And not quite the. The wildfire. I thought the interview would be, do you get where I'm trying to get philosophical here of where, where one people go crazy. I guess it's the city's I guess, whatever. And then we have this great interview with Quinn flowers, people ask for it, we got it. And then it's like, It would still be good, but it wasn't like, it just didn't get the wildfire. Do you go to them saying, yeah. I get what you're saying. Wow. I don't know why. I think that like, Maybe what. Two people find interesting might not be what 50 people find. Interesting. And then out of those 50, that don't find that thing, that two people find interesting. There's three that find something interesting that those two people on the other 47 don't fight. It's it's weird. You can't please everybody all the time. That's basically, I think what you're trying to get at. You know, we we're, we're, we're doing our best to bring you news to fill the time until this kicks off again. And yeah, we, we appreciate all our listeners, but I'm, you know, Keep listening. Keep subscribing. Yeah. It's just, it's just interesting. Cause, cause, and, and you know, I want to be a resource, you know, if you see stuff, you know, I know Zach messaged me listener. He goes, Hey, you know, is this new? I said, this is not new. So yeah, I can be here. Yay and nay. Hey read. Is this a new thing? Is this, is this news. You know, we are with XFL news hub. We, I have Mike Mitchell. I could ask Mike Mitchell Lee and resource of XFL news about anything at any given time. So if you guys have questions about what's news or whatever, Reach out. Let me know because the, the excellent website thing is not new. I saw that posted in every Facebook group that I belong in across the world. And it's, it's just interesting, like the speculation that goes with that when people are so hungry for news, and it's like, it's kinda like I was telling Dorothy about this. It's kind of like, you know, when we, as a collective society, remember something that didn't happen. Like everyone thinks the risk to Shizam movies, but there wasn't like, have you heard this phenomenon? It's similar to Mandela effect. Yes. Yeah. That's exactly what it is. And it's like, so everyone's goes, Oh, you know, the XFL websites nude. Right. And we're all remembering this and it's like, no, it's not. And I'm not saying it shouldn't be new right now. And they shouldn't have updated. And it's been months since they've done anything, but it's just interesting that people kind of collectively remember something and then it's not the way it is. So I need. It's just like it's it's, it's not, I know what you're talking about. The Mandela effect. You know, with like curious George, basically. That's like the big thing that people, you know, Did curious George have a tail? Yes or no. And if you remember it one way. You are a victim of the Mandela effect. If you remembered the other way, you actually remember reality. Did he have a tail? Nope. Here is the arch. Didn't have a tail. My mind. You didn't have a tail, but you remember him having a tail? When you say it to anyway, so it just. I just started going around this week. I wanted to get that out of the way. I just, it's not news. It's been that way. That doesn't mean they're going to do all the teams, any of that stuff. I think the rock has a lot of things going on right now. A young rock premiere this week. We're not talking about it. It got 5 million viewers. We're not talking about it. But I think actually that bell is very low on the priority right now. It seems like from the rock in Danny and them. So I need to say something else too. Criticism is always welcome. Read, bless his heart. Puts almost 40 hours into this podcast a week. I just show up. I keep saying it's cliche. I show up. Every Thursday, Wednesday, Thursday, when we record. And I produce the audio version. And maybe design a t-shirt that's all I do read, puts in so much work. So when Reid gets messages from anybody. Being overly critical and negative. It upsets me too, because you don't understand how hard read works of this. So I just wanted to put that out there, like. Give Rita, Pat on the back. He works really hard to put this podcast together. So let's cut him some Slack and let's not be negative all the time towards him in private messages, in whatever form of communication you have with Ray, please. Thank you. Yeah, I anyway. I know news is, is quiet. We're doing our best. I would like to think of us is kinda your check. All you know, is this news, is this not? We'll let you know, like I said, if I don't know, we have writers that I can ask my Josh J notes. I can ask Mark Henry era, Mark Perry. A non-market Mark. Very honor of Exelon. All news have at any given time, if you guys have any questions. So if I'm not the expert, we have experts that we can reach out to. So I just wanted to get that. Out of the way, the biggest non news news story that went viral again. Paul, did you think that we will be talking about, he hate me in 2021, Ron. Rod smart. Unless we were interviewing him. No. Biggest news story of the week. He hate me trademark. Trademarked by the XFL. Why isn't rod smart, allowed to. Trademark that. Well, so, yes. Okay. So here, and this is a great question. So again, this all goes back to what constitutes news what's news. So this came out. Came out on Twitter or like two days ago. XFL has trademarked. He hate me. That means that they are trying to make clothing, whatever about, he hate me. That was, that was the story. Right? So it goes crazy, crazy, crazy everybody. Oh my God, he hates me. What's going on with this stuff. So if you go back and I did the research and people did the research, you know, so this is not new at all. This is not a big deal. This is not a thing. So in 2002, rod smart, he hate me. Tried to file for a trademark, get their three, whatever wanted to get. He hate me for athletic, personal appearances, whatever. Took him three years to get the trademark. And then he, it was later abandoned because he had failed to like, do some updates and stuff to show whatever. So he lost it. In 2011. And then in 2016, the new XFL for whatever God knows reason. Cause it's Vince. Yeah. Right. Vince has to own everything. Trademarked it in 2016, they haven't used it. Obviously. And then this week. It was updated. Like it had, you have to use it within three years. So it had gone away the bankruptcy, everything. So this is like a whole new, so that's why it shows it's like a whole new trademark thing, but this is not new. There is no like. Potential. Doing clothes and stuff. I don't think, I think this is just them like housekeeping keeping stuff away. But my point is you see this at first blush and you go, Oh my God, this is crazy. What's going on? Come to us, come to someone that knows and let's share the info. What do you think? I've talked a lot. Sorry. No, it's all good. I mean, I think that, I think that any, if anybody should have the rights to this, it should be rod smart. And I'm hoping that maybe this is just a situation where they hand it off to him. Like. Like we took care of this for you. And, and, and not try to own, he hate me cause that was all rod smart. And I feel like the rock and Danny are doing this above the board and respectable. So I'm not, I'm not certain that this is going to be a situation where they're going to. You know, for lack of a better term, keep this trademark away from the person who created it. Yeah. And who gives a crap about, he hate me really? Who and what three people would go out and buy. He hate me shirt or whatever. It's like an old ex it felt, Oh, one Mark. I mean, really like. Huh. He hate me shirt. Bye. I would bet here. It'd be Jersey. Yeah. That was great. I was trying to figure out the title for this episode. And I have an idea later too, but it could be like, we hate, he hates me or something, but I guess we don't hate, he hate me. We fall loves, he hate me. You hate me as great. Anyway, I just, this went viral. It went crazy. I saw so many people commenting about this and it's exciting. We want XFL news, but just. That you know, that took two minutes. You. You know, you read the article it's like on Twitter. Now, when you go to share something, it's like, are you sure you want to read the article first? You know, really article ask us, ask someone, but this is, I don't think this is that, that big of a deal. I just think it's paperwork. I know this took up a lot of the Google doc to get through all that. The best quote about this Mark Nelson, he's a founder of a XFL board. That's like an XFL forums and said, if you can write everything on there. He goes, the fact that XFL re up their trademark is a huge, nothing burger. They already had the reservation on this trademark since Oh one. They're just keeping their hands on it and out of the hands of anybody else. So that is, that's kind of where that's at, but anyway, I just, that was kind of the, the, the big news story this week, just because it went so viral and it really was a huge, nothing burger. I love that saying. Nothing burger. Yeah. Do you think Tim Teebo is going to play in the XFL? No. I saw this Mark Perry is I think they're working on an article as we speak about this. No, Tim Teebo he's like 31, right? Yeah, who announces their retirement from AA baseball? Well, why. Who cares? AA baseball. He never made it to the press. No. I mean, is it spring training? Did he, was he ever any good? He's decent. He's decent. I mean, I don't think he's ever going to, he was ever going to be majorly caliber, but you gave it a shot and he actually started moving up the system. You gotta, I think at least one spring training where he did really well. Other than that. I mean, you know, It's kind of hard, like, like Jordan, you know, kind of hard to start a new sport. After so many years being known for another sport. Dion did it, but you know, Deon was plenty of both, but I was playing both of Bo Jackson was playing both at the same time. So. Well, yeah, I'm very attuned to the pro sports players going to baseball right now because of the whole last, last dance. And they sat on there that one of the coaches like, Oh, you have Jordan where they stuck with it. Like he would have made the pros. Do you believe that? Do you believe Jordan would've made the pros for the livestock? I do. He was that good? I don't think he was that good initially, but I think he could learn, like he could, he could eventually get there. Well, I mean, he's just the greatest, you know, like he's the greatest basketball player. No, don't don't hit me with your LeBron takes. Jordan, never lost a final, sorry. Spoiler alert for the last dance. Sorry about that. Aye. I do like how they showed up. They're like, wait, when Jordan went to the Cubs. Yeah. He was talking with Nick or whoever his trainer. And they're like, you're going to have to totally rework your body. You know, baseball. Then they show him just like laying on the ground. Stretchy. I didn't do a good job of like showing how much they kind of made it seem like baseball was an easier sport to play. It is an easier sport to play depending on position. There, there are positions that like, You know, pitcher that you don't have, certainly have to have the cardio. That you have to have, if you're, you know, in the outfield, those kinds of things. They have the shifted baseball too, which means you're not really running around too much. So, yeah. I think that if you're in the outfield, definitely cardio, cardio, cardio, because you're running around the outfield. But other than that, You know, Although, although the new there's new video of a role does Chapman pitching. He looks even more yoked and he did. When he gave up a game winning home, run against the Astros two years ago. So. You know, Stupid smirk. I'm mad about that. So I TiVo. Not going to the exit value. You think he's going to. Go into PR or do something. ESPN Fox similar Hiram. Yeah. To be a commentator he's he's he's got a good presence. Yeah. There you go. I just wanted to, you know, again, we're just touching on things. This week big. I know you're a Stephen, a Smith fan. He is high on our boy. Hi, Nikki. They were asking them about either one first day. What do you think about, do you want to read this quote or do you want me to read that? Sure. Y'all not going to believe this, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say, it's going to be tailored Heineken. If you watch this kid too high to keep affording the post season and it gives the Tampa Bay Buccaneers when he was just trusted onto center stage, he didn't look too shabby. Not at all. Viewers of the, of the YouTube channel. Now with this stuff, all just met. Turn into Stephen, a Smith in front of our eyes. Audio listeners. My thing that Stephen a was on the podcast right there. I don't sound like that. That was Paul. I'll even, I mean, Stevens all in on hierarchy. Okay. That's good. I'm glad. I don't, I don't know if it's Steven age is trying to be, you know, like trying to throw a controversial opinion out there. But when you look at the fact that Taylor Heinicke, you score more touchdowns against the Tampa Bay defense, then Patrick by homestead. Then maybe you're cooking was, it was some gas there. Potentially. It was interesting. I was listening to, it was some DC DC sports talk. This week, I saw a post on Twitter and they were asking hi, Niki about, you know, the deal or whatever. He's like, I didn't even want to hear about it. They're like, Oh, did any other teams asked you that? I didn't want to hear anything I wanted to be in DC. He had no idea. He just had his agent. They just like signed that deal. It seemed weird. Like I would maybe have one at the light. Lay the field field. A little bit, but yeah, he seems like very no-nonsense he's like, Nope, I wanted to be in DC. Like I didn't even listen to anybody. I just came back on and my agent said it was done. So. I mean, I think it's, you know, Right now Taylor's a starter. We'll see what happens to the draft. There's some great quarterbacks available in the draft. I think that there might be some trepidation about North Dakota. State's Trey. Lance will talk about that in a second. That's coming up. But I mean, Justin Fields is great. Zach Wilson to BYU is great. You know, are we are know Trevor Lawrence is going to Jacksonville, so there's really no debating that. Yeah. It's going to be interesting to see what Washington does in the draft. And if, if. If maybe Taylor starts and then maybe their draft pick takes over mid season. Depending on how it's going. I mean, If Washington starts out six and to cause that NFC East is terrible. If Washington starts at six and two. Then. And Taylor's playing all eight games. Maybe you just write Taylor for the rest of the season. I don't know. Yeah. If you know, the, the article noted that Washington probably isn't done in the off season. You know, Like you said with the draft or whatever, but it's certainly there. It's good. He's got a lot of people on his back, you know, kind of on his side. I'm glad too, that we recorded after the announced a Carson Wentz go into Philadelphia. So that's good. And that's, that's exactly what I was talking with. Trey, Lance cause Carson Wentz came from North Dakota state. So. When I saw Carson Wentz. When he went to Philly, I was like, okay, this guy's probably a sure thing. And he ended up not being a sure thing. I don't think Carson Wentz was ever going to be a starting quarterback in the NFL. After his first year, Nick Foles came in. We remember how that happened. How that went. Took Philadelphia all the way to the super bowl title. And then Nick Foles was no longer the starter and they just said, well, we got so much money and time invested in Carson Wentz. And now he's on his way to Indianapolis, which I think is good for both sides. I think Indianapolis needed a starting quarterback and let's see if Carson Wentz can do something there. As far as the Eagles go. Where do they go from here? Jaylen. Dale and right. People all in. Yeah, people are all in on Jalen, but you know, They also have another quarterback. In Philadelphia, that's currently lining up as a wide receiver. He was once a Heisman candidate until Kevin Sumlin ruined him at Arizona. His name is [unknown]. So there's that too. Interesting. Anyway, I just, I like to keep up on hind. You keep paying we'll we'll keep an eye on Washington. I think he's got a better shot than, you know, PJ Walker right now to see Andy playtime. Yeah. By a long shot. So. I saw this thing about Jim Jones, whichever Lawrence kinda got new cycle that he's not as high on Trevor Lawrence. What do you think about this? I think Trevor Lawrence is a once in a decade quarterback. And I think June Jones is missing the boat here on Trevor. You have a real, you know, June Jones is the one that, you know, he, he scattered PJ, you know, so people tend to, you. You know, thing that he kind of knows a thing or two. But yeah. Interesting. I think sometimes I think you say stuff just to get clicks and this seems like something that you're Oh yeah. Yeah, I wouldn't take them. Number one, it just seems like something you would say to kind of generate a whole buzz. I'm trying to think of the general of the. The order for the draft. I'm trying to think of what teams need, what. So, let me look at that real quick. I just, I don't see. I don't see a situation where hopefully yeah. Okay. No audio. They're good. I don't see a situation where. Do the jets want to give Donald and other chance? Miami has got. The third pick they've already got to us. So they're going to drop down. Matt Ryan was picked in 2015 is now going to be 20, 21, six years. Like Matt, Ryan's going to get more time to try to do that. Yep. Bengals have Joe burrow. They're not going to take a quarterback. The Eagles could take a quarterback there and. If they don't, if they don't think Jalen hurts is going to 'em. Be the guy that could take another quarterback there. And let's see the lions. They got Jared Goff, the Panthers. I don't think they dig another quarterback there. Yeah, but we've speculated about that. We expect. Maybe, I mean, the Broncos definitely need a quarterback. Definitely need a quarterback. The Broncos need a franchise quarterback. They haven't had a good franchise quarterback since Elway. So I think the Broncos are such a scenario where they could pick up like, you know, a Justin Fields or Zach Wilson. So we'll see what happens there. Yeah. I June on Trevor, he's saying everyone's, everyone's saying that's the guy. Number one. I would trade that pig and take one of these other quarterbacks down the line. He ranked two different quarterbacks, Mack Jones, and then Zach Wilson. I had Trevor warrants. You, do you agree with those sticks? I still think, I think Mack Jones is great, but I think Trevor Lawrence is still the generational quarterback. I think that's the guy. We'll see. He's just so handsome. I mean, he really. The handsome guy. So the rock was on cigar. I fishing out of this week. Yeah, wearing the photo they have on the website is him and the tie-dye shirt I've ever seen. And that's my, that's my pitch for the other title of this episode, just the rock wears tight shirts. So let me know at the end of the episode, which one we want to go with, there's a paywall on this site. So I didn't, I didn't pay for it, but we did get a quote from Mexico news hub. He was talking about, you know, young rock and they were talking about the exit valve, which is good. Cause that's the thing, you know, people think you have the, Rock's got other priorities and that's great. But every time that he and Danny do an interview, X bell is still coming up, which is it's good for the XFL. He says, my dreams of playing in the NFL never happened. Look, Warren Sapp, beat me out for my position. I had lots of injuries. None of those mattered. At the end of the day, I wasn't good enough with the XFL will provide is an opportunity for future players to play in. The XFL was raft for me in 95, and I didn't get drafted you best. You can believe I would have gotten on the XFL field. So that's, I don't know who is paying the paywall for the cigar I fishing. Articles or picking it up, they said, or you can pick it up at magazine stance. So if you want, I normally see. Whenever I'm flying in the airport. That's where I see a cigar aficionado. But I also want to point out Arizona Wildcats wise. Back in 1984. It didn't matter if you put warrants, Sapper the rock on that defensive line. Arizona is going to run right through you, Miami 29. Zip. I actually got blocked by Warren Sapp on Twitter once. Yeah. Great. Anyway, but I, I might use, I really want to use this photo on the episode. I don't want to get sued by cigar fishing out at, but it is the tightest yellow, like dress shirt thing. It's, it's, it's really incredible. Anyway, the, by the rocks, making the rounds are talking about young rock. It did good, you know, 5 million viewers. So that's good. Huh. The polls and we're not talking about it. Talking about it, but if anyone wants to talk about young rock, my DMS are open and I'm going to watch it this weekend. So I'm going to catch up. We have an article from Greg parks. Greg's going to be coming on the show here in a couple of weeks to talk. He's moving and working on other stuff. Th this was a great column on XFL board. If you guys want to read it, talking that the title is. The XFL should be kicking off today. They aren't, and it's the right move. And I put kind of two of his big takeaways here of the reasons why the XFL, you know, took that year off. We've debated this on the podcast. That continuing uncertainty of the pandemic and then the inability to get a structure in place to make the leave effective in such a short amount of time. What do you think about obviously, you know, we, we sh could be doing XFL stuff right now. We're not. So what do you think about the decision now that we're. You know, here. Safe. I mean, you're, you're giving us another year buffer to see how the pandemic gets under control the next year. Rolling out vaccines. We're starting to do better on vaccines. So. Yeah, I think it's, you know, we've said it before we got it. We got to get this thing under control before we even start thinking about adding things. To our, to our normal repertoire. So, anyway, I gr Greg is great. He does a lot of extra ball coverage, XFL board, but that's a great article. If you, if you want to get into, you know, should they ask I'll be going on right now? She did not. We're gonna have him come on and talk about some, some staffing and a couple of weeks, and we can get schedules figured out. So Greg is a, is a great guy and a. Yep. It's a load of sightings signings, I should say. Toronto Argonauts signing a wild cats, defensive lineman, Shawn Oakman. The Guardian's running back. Matt Colburn, renegades linebacker. Rashard. Play it cool yet. Hopefully I'm saying that right in the Vipers defensive back. Verus mix-in so apparently 65. X dollars or in the CFL for the next season. Be careful on those knees that terpenes. Horrendous. Yeah, we're going to be talking to CFL stuff coming up there. One of the teams. Like Edmond, you know, w with Edmonton and they got Jamie Elizondo. Dealer Cornelius, they're doing like a fan vote on the names is like the Edmonton. Cause I think they were the Eskimos and then it was kind of like the Washington football thing and they said they couldn't be the Eskimos anymore. So yeah. We'll definitely be keeping an eye on the CFL. I expect a lot of those guys to bounce in, but yeah, tons of tons of sightings for the CFL. Through that. The other thing, major league football is, is given an update. This is kind of another spring league. People have been talking about. Ryan Woods is still going to be coming on, talking about a spring league coming back in, in may. The kickoff we talked about last week, spring league is going to be coming back in may. This major league football people are hyped on. It's kind of going to be a demo season is what they're calling the demonstration season. It's going to be nationally televised. Three cities in three to four weeks of play. I don't know why they just don't do a bubble. I don't know why you would bounce around and do a couple of different cities. But they, they, the quality is they feel like a demonstration. A season format is a financially viable and the Ford's the best protection for our players, coaches, staff, some fans. And it's gonna start in 20. In July. So that's going to be another thing. We'll keep an eye on, but a major league football. We had talked about that before. I just did some more kind of alt football to fill the schedule. And a new league. Do you look for look forward to, is the European league of league of football announced for June of 2021. Of course. They had a warmer world league for a while that became NFL world or something like that. So there's a new football league coming out there too. Yeah, one of the guys XFL dragons, Marcel Frazier. He, I was there when he got like the awesome pick six. Against the Vipers, the first week at home for that, for the dragons, he's going to be one of the defensive line coaches. So that kinda got me onto that. Vince with all football scouting report on Twitter was talking about that. Again, just more, it's an elf league. I love that. You're if you like a football, I think that's a phenomenal. Acronym for a league. But I'll be keeping an eye on that coming up. Very cool. And the former expo guardians director of player personnel, and. Personnel director for the AAF hot shots. Alan trip McCracken has joined the Jaguars front office. For Mike Mitchell, just keeping an eye on some of that stuff. Crack them. That sounds like a, like a villain. Jaguars have know the cons have no lack of money right now. They're they're going all in on this and they got there. All leap. They're all leap Ali. What's his name? The coach there. Well, he's got the weird, the big football coach. It's going to the Jaguars. Oh, urban Meyer. Yeah. We're a name. That's a weird name. That's like, you sound like an old Southern name, like urban Meyer. I don't know. I mean, like I was in Utah when he was there. I was working in salt Lake city when he was the head coach. And people like, who is this guy? He's like really exciting apparently. And you know, like Utah went undefeated that year, the year after he came in. And of course got the job, you know, after that he got the job at Florida, which everyone was surprised about because everyone thought he was either at a Notre Dame or Ohio state eventually ended up Ohio state. I do have concerns about urban Meyer. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you look at his team from Florida that one year you got Aaron Hernandez. You got a bunch of people that got in trouble. And I mean, there's the hiring of the coach that just happened. And the guy resigned like two days later. I have concerns about urban Meyer. I do. Yes. Also, yeah, just going from coaching college kids to pros, I think is totally different. And building that repertoire, like in the locker room, like you can't. Yeah, I think college guys, you can really saddled down. He didn't. I mean, I think you, it's easier to kind of talk down to college guys and get them in line. Look, Nick Saban is probably the best, the greatest college coach of all time. And how did he do in the NFL? Yeah. Not good. So. Would that being said, we're gonna take a quick break. Do a little commercial break here and come back and talk about a fan controlled football and spring league stuff. So we'll be right back. All right. And we're back. The sugar skulls. I should be able to say that correctly, seeing that I was born and raised in Tucson. That's a great name for a team, the sugar skulls. I love that. Yeah. It's a, it's it's, it's very ethnic. It's very regional. It's very embracive of embracing of the heritage of Tucson and I'm here for it. I got Nidia. A Dodger sugar skull, like. It's really cool. It's really awesome. So yeah, he's going to go down there. I guess he was going to the, to the Toronto Argos and that he really. Sweet got released from the army. I was before I had a chat. He only tweets in capitals. Before I had a chance to make it out. They're not mad. Just had a mega. That have moved together, crime going. A failure is not an option. So anyway, a friend of the show can't shall be, he came on talking about the spring league staff back months ago. Ah, good for him. And then do you want it? There's just a couple other CFL signings here. We can bless alphas defensive back from the TSL. He's a Dane web Damon web is going to the rough riders. Jordan more from the generals is going to the Toronto Argonauts. Dwayne Hendricks also go into the arguments from the alphas. And the Austin in general is defensive. And Shawn Oakman going also to the argument. So a bunch of Argonauts signings there. I'm I'm all in. I'm going to be on the CFL thing. I think that's a good, I was thinking about getting into the IFL stuff, you know, Ernesto Lukoil. You know, a friend of the show, you know, he's going to be, that seems like a lot of, of a lot for me to try to keep up on with all the indoor leagues and the arena leagues and all that kinds of stuff. But I think the CFL, I think I can make there's like 12 teams, right? Yeah. Are they gonna. You manage that. So anyway, that's, that'll be my game plan coming up here and later on. Yeah. All right. So now here's the moment that probably everybody's been waiting for. Fan controlled football. And we needed some other eyes on the product. So I had it on the whole time. It's the first game I watched out the second game. I appreciate it. I think it's good. I guess, I don't think Paul needs to watch every second of every game about this, but I do think it was good to that. You could, we could have an educated opinion about, you know, what we think about the first week of games. Well, first and foremost, I do want to say that it's it's. Serious bugging me. First and foremost, I do want to say that like the Manzell thing worked. Signing Johnny Manzell work because guess what? They were on ESPN. Everything. Yup. That worked. Effective marketing. Yup. Just to recap, wild ACEs, one 30 to 22. There was we'll. We'll talk about the rule snafu at the end. The BSP zapper is 48 to 44. This week, while basis are going to be doing the beast. And then the glacier Boyz are going to be doing the, the zappers. So that's kind of exciting there. I am glad I troll the wild at the glacier Boyz on Twitter. So I'm glad that they lost so that we can say that they are. They've not won, you know, they're, they're one of the only teams that have won. So, what are your big picture thoughts on the game? I did. We don't have to get through all these notes, but what were your big picture thoughts on the game? Well, I want to talk about that end of the game snafu that happened with Richard. Sherman's like, wait, we had to call our fifth down power up at the beginning of our drive. There was some confusion there. Yeah. So what happened? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So what happened is the glacier boys were coming back. To try to when they were on a third of them in whatever, and they have the penalty. And so it resulted in a loss of a down. And so when they were trying to do is they had, cause it's this stupid online rules, they had one an extra down earlier in the week by some online voting. So the thought process is, Oh, well we have five downs right now. Right. We can go again. And the refs rules was. Because you lost that fourth down, you didn't have the opportunity to then play your fifth down. Like, I'm not saying that that's that's right. And there's a fifth down. I know, but it's kind of like, you couldn't, you didn't get that step. So then you couldn't get to the platform or whatever kind of thing. I'll tell you. Cause they have Richard Sherman on the game. They had them on a Skype Marshawn. Was there, Renee was there. Miro is there for the bees. Sherman was there. Via zoom. And he was so p****d at the end of the game. Wait, what is this rule? What is it? I go, man, this is not a good way because you know, Richard, Sherman's not a lot of BS, you know? I mean, he's pretty straight shooter. And when you bring them into this new game and he feels like his team loses out on a technicality at the end, Yeah, that was weird. It just, it just seemed weird. Like, You should be able to play. Roll out that fifth down, anytime you want to, you shouldn't have to like do it before fourth down or do it at first and be like, Oh, we're gonna use our fifth down this time. Well, they did, but it's because they lost that other, I bet they will. What's the point of the fifth down. If you lose your F if you get it on fourth down, then you don't need a fifth down. And I know. I know what. I know there was the first game had about 22,000 viewers on the fan control. There was 4,000 on a kind of funny, the peak for the beast games I saw was 34,000. That makes sense. Cause you have Marshawn, you got Manzell, you had a lot more bigger names and kind of that second game. I will point out XFL got 3.3 million viewers their first weekend. So I'm just. I'm just pointing that out. I really don't think you can judge that because this is not on a TV network. That's fine. I can just, I can say whatever I want. I just stayed. I see a lot of XFL rider and we covered it. I mean, believe me, we're all covering this. I see a lot of people, you know, market now for lack of a better word and this gray. You know, I'm supportive of the players and stuff too. I liked it. I tweeted it. Josh Davis. I doubt he's listening to this, but he going crazy about all that. The fingers will set. I go, Josh. XFL got 3.3 million viewers the first week. I just didn't remember what butters your bread here. Okay. I mean, we're all, we're covering all this stuff. I just 3.3 million viewers is different than 30,000 on Twitch, but I know that yes, it's online and all these other things. So I know there's a lot of caveats there. I'm just saying. It feels so slow to me. It feels like the slowest game in the history of the world. I texted you when I was going on, like they need to call a play in advance. So when, when that one-on-one matchup is happening. They need to give the fans. The option to vote for that first plate wall that one-on-one matches happening. So that when they come back for the first down, that play is in and they're going. So after that, Wa wa after the one-on-one happens. The first down plays in your voting on the second downplay your voting on the third down play. When the second down play is happening and so on and so forth. That's what needs to happen. My, my thought. And again, I like constructive criticism and I think that's a good idea to my thing would be because they're, you know, there there's four teams, there's four, you know, you're locked into your one team. Right. So I can only vote on like bees plays. I can't even look at anything else. So that's what it's telling you, Matt. One of the guys with me. You know, he's with the wallet ACEs. I go, Matt. You know, w when whoever team is playing. Roughly 75% of the people, right. Aren't involved in that. Play-making I mean, I know the numbers are skewed, right? I mean, I'm sure that some teams have more than the others. So, what I would like is if I'm watching the wild ACEs, glacier, Boyz, and I'm not voting on any of these teams. I would like to see when they're doing the place. Can't they show like a little pole or like, this is what the, this is what the other teams looking at right now. Like, so I can kind of see, even if I can't interact, I think the reason why they're not doing that is because they don't want people to be tipping off the other team on what's being picked. Maybe, well, I mean, it's also quite, I mean, that was a concern with the XFL when you could hear in the headsets and they had thought, Oh, what if someone got with all the delays and everything? I don't think you could ever. Really get all that across. But anyway, I just, I think we need to be able to see something. What. We need to be able to see something going on while I'm not voting. That's not just player standing on the field. So, whether it's seeing a poll to show him a couple of other plays are showing. I don't know what that is, but we have to see something. That's not player standing on the field while the other teams are picking place. I agree with that assessment, I'm not sure that the plays are a situation where that would be an acceptable alternative. And I will say this. You're talking about a delay and you're talking about, I think you're alluding to the idea that maybe just maybe. Even if the plays are displayed and. The information is out there that this, this team is picking this play. I think you're, you're saying. That there's no way the other team can scout it that fast. 2017 Houston Astros. Yeah. Bang bang. There's a way to scout it. There's a way to scout it. Like I said, I'm just, I'm serious. I, the XFL, that was the big concern when they were going to have the headsets and all this stuff, and people really thought, Oh, they're going to be able to hear the other plays and stuff. I get, it was never a concern. It's too fast. It's going too quick. I did see something on the second game that I was like, there was a moment where. He was tackled in the end zone. He ran into the end zone. It was tackled and they didn't rule say they're like, Oh, he's down at the goal line. No, it's a safety. Yeah. The rules, leave a little bit to be desired. You know, Patrick has said many times on the, on the thing, this is a Bay the season. I absolutely understand that. XFL did their Bay, the season in training camp and not asking for investors and, and, you know, ad revenue and whatever else they're making with Twitch. So I get it. But I don't think that's an acceptable answer. Just, well, this is a beta test. We're getting through this. I think you're asking people to, like, if you weren't asking for investors yet. I, I, maybe I would buy that more, but I do think it's difficult to ask for money. I don't know. Do you know what I'm saying? Like I get, they're trying to get the rules, figure it out, but I also feel like you could have done that in training camp and not on TV. You get what? I mean? You're asking people to invest in not only money, but then the games like energy and all that kind of stuff. Also, I feel like they need an engineer in charge to kind of like. Get every camera on the same shutter speed on the same color temperature on the same. You know, Light balance, everything, everything. Yeah, they love that drone shot. The drone shot is not at the same shutter speed. I don't like the it's like the magic. We're exposed to for some of the game, then there was some color balance issues. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, I, again, I said this last week, I get that they're really impressed with all this stuff. And I am too. I'm not saying it's not easy, but that's the level you have to be at to compete with this step. And this is probably above and beyond what the normal Twitch things look like. And that's great, but you know, you're wanting to compete against. Other alternative leagues. And, you know, we watched the spring league that honestly, probably how their fraction of the viewers that fan controlled football is going to have. Right. I mean, it was. Spring league, I can call a spade, a spade, right? Pharyngeal football probably ran the floor with viewers compared to them. And we covered them a lot. They looked way, way, way, way, way better than finger to a football dead. In an empty arena and the, you know, in the Alamo dome and the whatever, but they have their pro production crew in there. And I'm not saying that these guys aren't, but you do need to having the wrong shutter speed on the football game, you know, shooting it like 24 P a drone flying down the thing just doesn't. It doesn't look good. Nope. Not at all. I completely agree with that. I did like the flip, the field power up. That was really cool. Yeah. So where they get around the punting. Yeah. I like that idea. It just feels like scrimmage. It doesn't feel like there's a lot of movement. If you know, it feels like they score, they come back, they go, we're calling the play. We're stopping regard. It just doesn't feel like a football game where it's like back and forth, back and forth, back and forth. It just feels like. And we go and then we reset and then we go, and then we reset. I, I honestly think they need to add kickers. I do. I like the idea of kicking off, having it bounce of doing that. Like it doesn't end there football. Coming off and then having a return. I liked that idea, but. You know, I just a couple other I'm not going to get and all this stuff that I, the first, the first 20 minute, half took 45 minutes. Th th the two games that were supposed to be like five and six, o'clock took about three and a half hours. So the whole, I know they're still working through things. I thought the draft worked a lot better this week. But you know, this whole, well, no one has three and a half hours to watch football. When you ask them to watch that for year two camps, I understand it was two different games going on, but it went from five to practically nine o'clock. I mean, it went really, really late. I had a call at Dorothy was calling me and there was supposed to be like at seven something that, Oh, this will be done, you know, five to six in the six to seven. And then that first game went like. Yep. Hour 45. I thought, man, this is taking for ever to have a really long time. Journey was hurt. That sucks. Flowers got player of the game, Quintin flowers, friend of the show. My last, huh? Rightfully. So at the end of the day, Yep. And then just my last note, we get rid of all this other stuff. The big play at the end, and everyone went crazy about. That the zappers or trying to come back against the beast, Logan marshy, you know, through the play, the guy Kotick got knocked out of balance. I like the two yard line. Incredible play everyone's at, this is how it was supposed to be the whole game. Yeah. He ran past the line of scrimmage that whether it been called wasn't illegal plaque, there wasn't like, I it's, I guess we can still say it was incredible, but at least let's at least acknowledge that. That was, that was a penalty. And he ran past the line of scrimmage. Insane. And then now, now we have to put our disclaimer here. Cause there was a lot of profanity during the course of the. Yeah, Sherman Sherman in Lynch. That was the other note. They talked way too long in the game. Like I am right now about fingertip football. They talked to way too long. They really overwhelmed the broadcasts and there was too much profanity. I know Matt command says, you know, they're trying to appeal to a different fan base then, you know, they're trying to appeal to the, to the gamers, to the Twitch streamers. I do not like profanity in my broadcast. I'm sorry. I swear a lot all the time, but I do like content needs to be accessible by anybody. And this was the kind of stuff. This was on bar stool. This was on everything Marshawn's called during the game. I'm gonna go ahead and go back to the Caesar salad with the crew times and all this s**t though. Right? Don't take me a nice fat s**t. Get my stomach. All right. I'm finna go out here and try to run for 200 on a 50 yard field. Like, was that. I mean, I don't think that that is a place for that. I'm sorry. I mean, I think you see my bar, Sean, didn't talk to the media when he was in Seattle. Because, I mean, he's just like Marshawn is a really real dude. And he kind of limits his media availability. So I think that's probably why. You know, that's why he didn't talk to the media much because of that stuff. So I think, you know, I think it's just, it's very much whom are Sean is, and I'm not judging that. But in a telecast, I mean, it doesn't have any place there. So. The other thing, Marshawn, the whole end of the whole first game. Cause he was on, there they go. Oh, Marshawn's going to suit up. He's playing. He's coming in for the beast that, that I think. They got that peak viewership right at the beginning of the beast game and Patrick and all of them. And I tweeted that, Patrick. I said, I would like to know what happened. Was it, you know, insurance? Was it health? Was it someone saying this is not a good idea, but they teased Marshawn playing in that game. They said he assumed that we have photos of him in the locker room. He is ready to go. And he didn't play. They came out the second, the game started that. Oh yeah. He's not playing well. You, you sold people for about 45 minutes on the fact that Marshawn is going to play. And I think that that is not good. So they did. Of course Manzell was on ESPN. We talked about that. Yeah. A journey got her he's okay. Friend of the show journey Erdman he will probably be out this week, but it's hoping to be back next week. He had a separated shoulder, he got tackled, you know, he got knocked out of bounds. So. The bees are fully funded. They're the first team that's, that's been fully funded. So that's exciting. The other teams are still trying to get money on that. The other. Just a couple last notes were too way, too long, a finger to football. They announced the tags this week. Quintin flowers got taken by the bees, Anthony Jones. Andrew Jamil. Vince with all football scouting had this big take with the wild ACEs one. And I did just want to get into this a little bit. That [unknown] Galloway. He had tweeted that he'd only wanted to play for the beef. And that he wanted to be on that team. Whatever Glen Campbell had, Caitlin Campbell had won the game for the wallet. ACE is week one. And Greg had gone on and basically made fun of flood areas and said, we're going to draft you. I, you know, to get you away from the bees. Ha ha. Isn't this funny? He even posted the, like the million dollar man, like ha. You know that gift. And he ended up deleting that. Cause I think that it really rubbed people the wrong way that you had someone kind of like. Kind of mocking. I don't know. It felt like a very negative tone. From whether the team owners, I give this as all trash talking. What do you think about that? And the fact that he deleted the tweet afterward. I think that maybe Patrick. He said something to him like, Hey. You know, Fan control. We're. A fan driven. Not not Greg Miller driven. Yeah. Potentially. Just interesting on that. I just, Vince was really fired up. I just wanted to mention that. And then the final thing, we have the big bachelor, a news on the podcast. Are Rachel Lindsey, a former bachelorette. In the weirdest fit I've ever heard joined Greg Miller and, and Austin Eckler and Jack settlement. As a co-owner of the wild ACEs, I think that's very, very odd. That was, what do you think? What do you think about that? I don't watch the bachelor. So I couldn't tell you what, what do you think about the fat? Why can I not delete that stuff? But what do you think about the fact that a bachelor at star. Is she as a star, she hosts a bachelor podcasts. There's a lot of controversy right now. Chris Harrison is. Stepping away from the show. I over, you know, racial driven comments. What do you think about bachelor nation getting involved in fingernail football? I mean, it's a way to maybe broaden the broadened, the viewership. Possibly. I don't know, like I don't watch the bachelor and can't tell you how rabid the fans. I know you watch it. I know Daddy-O watches it. I think it was live. Love that crap. But I honestly, I don't know if people who watch the bachelor. Besides you. Would watch this. I don't know people are gonna go, Oh, the chick from the bachelor. I'm going to watch this. No, one's going to watch it's like when they did the whole, like when TNA wrestling used to have like the NASCAR guys come on and they're like, Oh, we're going to get all the NASCAR fan. Like nobody cares. I people watch the bachelor. Like not one more person. Who's going to watch fan controlled football, not any disrespect about Rachel. It could be anybody. You can have Chris Harrison, not in the team. No one, but it doesn't matter. So. We've been able to say. I'm going to tell you right now. We don't care. We don't care. Do you want to do one last break before we get into the bonus? We gotta, we gotta pay one more bill here and we'll come back and we'll talk about the stuff that annoys me. Big story. I can't, I'm dying to hear about this. Sorry. Oh, aye. Okay. You know, I'm a big baseball guy. We've talked about them before. I don't think. I would hand. This much money. Two a 22 year old kid. Who has less than 500 ad bats at the major league level. He's exciting to watch. Don't get me wrong. But Fernando tatties. Junior. Getting. $340 Million on a 14 year contract extension. That's just crazy to me. Yeah. Can you give context? I saw this just for anyone. That's not a baseball player. This is a huge monster contract. Came out Wednesday, right? Yeah. This is just, this has massive. He's an exciting player. Don't get me wrong. I don't, I don't know when they had to renew his contract. It's so interesting how this all came to be because. His dad was a legend with the St. New St. Louis Cardinals. His dad told. St Louis. Hey, my kid is a baller. You gotta check them out. He's going to be great. St. Louis sent. They're Scouts 16 times to see this kid said he doesn't have it. The white Sox had him. Traded him for this washed up pitcher named James Shields. And now look at him. The guy's a phenom. But three 40 $340 million over the next 14 years. That's. It's it's a bit much for a kid. Had a hot season, one hot season. It's a bit much. Yeah. I well, first off I saw his, his agents got like 17 million commission off that deal. That's not too bad to work that. And then yeah, the big thing now has posted. And how old will you be when his contract he retires in you? Yeah. That's a long time. And one of the interesting things we talk about it. Make a joke every year when it comes up Bobby Bonilla day, the day that Bobby Bunia gets paid. Again, from the maps until 2035. The final Bobby Bonilla day will be the final year of Fernando Tatis has contract. That's insane to me. That's incredible. I also look at like, They talk about teams like the Yankees and the Dodgers buying their titles. And I know people are gonna say, well, the Dodgers only played 60 games, blah, blah, blah. You. It's the only reason you say stupid s**t like that. I held off there. That's. Marshawn here. The only reason he say stupid stuff like that. Is because your team didn't win the world series in 60 games. Only reason your crap talking the Dodgers right now. So they say the Dodgers or Yankees by they're there. Their titles. Do you know how much money. The San Diego Padres have tied up in their in-field alone for players. $821 Million. Pause. Hasbro has got a one $44 million deal. Manny Machado has got a $300 million deal. Tatties has a $340 million deal, $821 million in their infield alone. This is going to end very badly for the Padres. Very badly. This is wild. I knew you. I knew you would have some of the soundbites. So I put that on the show. That was good. That was kind of put that on the show. I figured you would have an opinion on that. Have an opinion on that. I think it's, it's. What are they doing? Like this is a small market team. They're not a big market team. They can't afford this. They're going to have to get rid of Machado where, or tatizan. And who do you think they're going to be able to get more, more out of trade wise? It's going to be tatties. Last note. I want to hear the story your, your connection has been crystal clear today. I'm glad because you know, that you made that the most important thing was that how the XFL Mark has viewers would view my, I like my movies, but you know, that's the more important thing I didn't say. I said, if it's an added benefit, I know. Fans have a YouTube channel will know that there has been just a little connection issues. Dating back to when you had a certain neighbor lived next door, move in next door. We talked about it on the podcast about him trying to steal your door dash. That was like, we led the show with that one week about him stealing your door dash, trying to. So you w what. What is going on with this? Well, he's out of the shower. Okay, thank God for that. He's out of the shower. Yeah. We took a break. I heard the water shut off. I'm like, Oh, he's only 40 minutes. This time. He showers a lot, like, yeah. Like six times a day. It's insane. I don't know anybody has shown us that much. I only shower once. But, but, but besides that the internet issue. I did crap for a while now. Like, it's been like, I've been trying to watch movies on my Apple TV. It cuts out and it's annoying. And then I'll, you know, Like every, like every three minutes either it's a Netflix stops. Apple movie stops or I get breakup. You know, like digital hits in my. Disney plus anyway. I digress. So. The I get on the line with spectrum and I plug and they tell me to plug my computer directly into the modem. It doesn't work. I don't get online. Bypass the router. And plug it directly in the modem doesn't work. Don't get online. All right, we're going to send a technician out. So come to find out there's three problems. Probably like two, three weeks before. This all started happening. I noticed there was a little spot on the wall where the line was broken out. Like there's a, like a cord cover. And the core covers busted off in a certain area like outside your apartment. Of the department. And I went, Oh, that's interesting. And come to find out there was like, A very like. Mickey mouse rigged. Splint that happened. Like someone's splice the cable. Reattached it and then put a splitter on and then. Random. Aye. I don't know how this happened. This happened, but your neighbor split the internet. Yeah. So they fixed that. Did the spectrum be like, this is isn't that like a felony to like mess with their cable. It should be. I think if I, if I went out to, like I said, you know, we have CenturyLink fiber. Like if I went out to the fiber box and just started like fiddle and they would, they would come over and like either it's, it's going to be. If it's not criminal, it's definitely civil. They'll Sue you. So. They fixed the splitter. Then they found out a cord in my apartment that was coming from the wall to the modem was bad. So they gave me a new court for that. And then they told me something that I did not know. And this is remarkable. They said the router that we gave you. Only limits you to 400 megabytes down. So I was wondering why could never, ever like get the best speed? Like it always topping out around 400, 500 megabytes per second. He's like that router limits you. That router is basic it's for the lowest tier internet. It limits you to 400 megabytes. He's like, go out and get another router. Don't go through us, go out and get another router. So I went and got another router. And now this router allows me three gigabytes down. So. That's that's why we're getting a crystal clear connection. So three issues all fixed, but you're in. I don't care about the route that your neighbor was stealing your internet. Cause he was on your wifi. You found out he was on the wifi. You kicked them off. I kicked them off, changed everything. And then now he literally hardwired split. So did you talk to it? Like, did anyone talk to him? When did spectrum? They just like, Oh, let's patch it up. Were there? No question. How did this happen? I don't think I was in a, I don't know what happened after the guy left. I can't tell you. I know he sat in his car for a little bit. I think I saw him on the phone. I don't know if he was informing someone that that's something was going on, but yeah. He just came and he's like, yeah, we saw a little device outside that that was knocking down some signal. And I'm like a little devices and what he's like, well, I can't really say, and I'm like, was it a splitter? He's like, it appeared to be a splitter. I'm like, okay, you can just say that someone's splitting the signal. I don't know how that happened, because normally when you have a cable internet connection, you have to call up and say like, can you provision my modem to the signal? I don't know how this all happened. Wow. I mean, I would talk to property management. I mean, that's just wild. I think that that is I I've tweeted. I said there's no greater crime than stealing someone else's wifi. I can't imagine what, like actually cutting the cable and splitting the, the amount of effort that went into that. Yeah. Well, and the problem is, is like I call property management. I tell them. And they're going to be like, well, we can't do anything about it. Cause there's an eviction moratorium in California. I think that that is a, is a, is a problem. So I don't, I don't know what's happening. I don't know what the issue is, but it needs to be, it needs to stop. I wanted to stop. Well, yeah, the water thing, you know, you guys all pay for combined water. Use the internet. I emailed him like, Hey, what is the situation on the water? Because I was concerned about that. Yeah. Six one hour showers. And they're like, well, you know, it's splits split eight ways, but we cap it at $37, which I'm like, okay, five 30, $7. It's not going to break the bank. I'm just like, like what. What is going on? Like eventually they're saying it's capped at $37 now. But what's going to happen when they're like your water, you just through the roof. Yeah. Dramatically. We have to take the cap off and cap it at 50. Like when does it end? I think that that with the, he needs to get, there needs to be some repercussion that whether they call it spectrum or whatever, but I think that is pretty wild. So I agree. I think it's, you know, In your will was like, I can't believe you. Weren't more p****d off about the food given that you were, that p****d off about your clothes. Getting taken out of the washer. Out of the washer. And that was, that was the thing like with the clothes, with the other neighbor, to the other side of me, Like. It's one thing to take my clothes out of the driver, leave them in the dryer, but I set an alarm on my, on my phone. So I knew exactly when to go get my clothes. I close. We're already out of the washer and his clothes were coming out of the washer and going into the dryer. So he took my clothes out of the washer early to wash his clothes. So my walk anyway, I digress. And I was sorry. A little bit about that. And then he's so your food. No, this was that. So there's two different names, right? He accused he right. He was like, did you. Yeah. Like the other day, he was like, did you steal my food? I'm like, no, he knocked on my door. He's like, Hey, did you steal my, my door dash? I'm like, no, I was in the bathroom. I was in bed. I'm like doing. If I knew I was stealing your internet, I wouldn't be bugging you about anything. Right. I would be like, I would like, I'd be ducking you. I wouldn't be like confronting you about things. And we're in the middle of the pandemic. You're never wearing a mask when you're just around people like you're standing close to the other neighbor, the cool guy. You're sitting close to him. You're not wearing a mask. Like what is happening like this? I don't know what. What his deal is. That's wild. Anyway. That was good. There's a bonus at the end is fine. That's fine. I think that's fascinating. I'm glad you guys are in there. That three gigs has good. I only have a gig here, fiber, but I got, are you three? What's your upload? My upload now I did a speed test. It's like eight 40 up. Oh, that's good. Yeah. Really good. Cause I'm like, there's no way they'd give you three. I'm sorry. It's eight 40 down and it's like 100 up. Okay. So, I mean, it's not fiber, you know, it's just it's cable, internet. It's it's good up. That's that's good. I mean, it was averaging about 40 before now. It's like 90, a hundred, so. It's better. Yeah. Your thing just glitz, like one time, the whole thing. So that's good. I mean, it's fine. I don't, I'm just, I'm happy that it all worked out. How does the audio sound? Does it sound better? It sounds good. Good. If you've made it this far in the show. Let us know how's the audio. Awesome. XML show.com/review to leave us a review. Also XML show.com/march by some merchant support the podcast. We appreciate it. Yup. And yeah. This has been a long one. That's good. Thanks. He didn't say any of the cliche things that I have a bell now I'm going to Dean. If I did, would you have done it? Yeah. So, if you say something like doing the Lord's work. My era. That is really that's the point. You said something like jam packed. Wow. Wow. That's really loud. There you go. The cliche bell here on that Mark asked just for you read. Oh, Thank you again. Well, I think the rock where it's tight shirts, I think that's a good episode title. Rock wears tight shirts. Okay. Thanks again. Thanks for listening.

Episode 27 - Heinicke = WFT FTW? Pt. Deux (ft. Quinton Flowers)

Another three page, Google doc. It's the off season Reed. I was trying to think of one word to describe today's episode. What would that be? Paul. Not jam packed. It's back. We got them. We got a bag we got in fact emphasize today. I'm happy. Trevor warrants day, as people are listening to this it's Friday. The the third. 12Th. It's Trevor Lawrence Saint currently pro day. They're going to be scouting. So I hope that we don't. I hope Trevor Lawrence, his hair doesn't dry too many viewers away. Cause we drop our episode literally the time that it several warrants that well, I mean, Why does he need a pro day? We already know he's all eat with the cons down in Jacksonville. Why do we need, why do we need a pro day? I mean this, this guy. It just, I wait. What I would do it to live in his shoes for a day. I mean, it just must be nice. Just everyone loves you. Gorgeous hair. Just. Is he married? Does he have a girlfriend? I'll look at like one of the Hanson brothers. I don't know. I don't know if he's married or got along. Man, I'm not writing an AME biography on the guy. So that's like Patrick, my homes, you know, they got, they got locked down early, him and his wife, you know? I mean, you got to get them when they're, you got to get, and I know she's kind of crazy, but I've heard, I've heard some things this week. Can I say this though? I am. I'm kind of glad the chiefs did not win the super bowl because I wasn't subjected to a Jackson, my homes, Tik TOK video. Yeah, I, yeah, I'm very. If it got us, Tom Brady throwing the lumbar the on the boat parade and groggy, Gronk dancing, shirtless. I I'm there for it. Oh, that reminds me. I saw something on Twitter today, and people were saying that Tom Brady. Throwing the Lombardi was white privilege somehow some way. And I'm like, Okay. I'm a firm believer of the idea of white privilege. And I want to get too political. I know it exists because I'm a Brown man. I've seen it in action. But throwing a trophy is white privilege now. On what planet is that correct? No. I heard that it just made people feel more for the first time he felt human, you know, getting drunk, stumbling off the boat, being like everyone's been that guy been carried off a boat, you know? Or out of a club rather than the bar, you know, he's never had that look. He's never really had that look like. Oh, I'm losing my s**t. I'm. And do you see as tweet afterward, it was like, Misspelled. Add capital like tequila, avocado, tequila, or something. Tom. Gotta love it. He's just here to get into it. Now you're going to have to edit yourself or you drop that. You dropped the swear word. Never never before. Did I, yeah. There you go. Spend all that time on the intro music to the beginning of the bike. Ah, I was trying to save myself some time at posts. Now it's all ruined. It's all right. Just so I, I warned Paul at the beginning. I got, I got a dis a slight rant today going into this. I am. Paul was making fun of me again. We got a lot of stuff on the show at three pages on the Google doc. I heard 10 minutes last night of the most asinine drivel of the XFL podcasts I've ever heard in my life. One of our, one of our listeners to the show, send it over. He said, yeah. And I don't want to throw anyone under the bus. He goes, Hey man, I heard this news. And we're, we're new to the XFL game, right? I mean, not the fans and stuff with the podcast, you know, I know the other podcasts had been around for a long time. So I know that there is levels of, you know, speculation and coming up with staff and trying to fill time. And, you know, we have no news and we're going to get into that too, about the anniversaries and everything. But. You can't just say whatever you want and then say, just speculating. It'd be like, if I was making fun of you and like said some rude to me is I just can just get in the skin. And, and I heard this and as someone that spends, I spend a lot of time on this podcast. I spend a lot of time putting things together. Paul and I are both journalists. I, you know, Professionally, right. I mean, I was a journalist. Paul is professionally a journalist in sale. You know, every once in a while, like with the Josh Johnson thing, you know, we get things wrong, we correct them. You know, it's never intentional, but just to come out and spread like fake news in speculation, on a platform and then. They have listeners then ask them about it. Like, Oh yeah, we just kinda made that up. That's not that's everything that I don't want this podcast to be. And so I kinda like. Man. I hope we never come across as that or, or whatever. Cause it is that makes everybody look worse when people like that existed. Do you, that I think what we do is we try to mix in a good, good amount of news and opinion. But we never like stayed anything as fact, like we speculate it's okay to speculate. It's not okay to just go. Well, I heard X quarterback is being traded to white team. Without any proof to back that up. Yeah. I mean, there's one thing in reporting rumors. Anytime you see someone like on ESPN reporter, rumor, they always say they have a source that says this, you know, they're always like some sources behind the actual reporting. Unless of course you, the Arizona men's basketball team, then March LaBeck. Just made the whole story out, but didn't hear anything. The tapes, blah, blah. I'm going to get off on a tangent there. And that's, and that's another that's, you know, that's a story for another time. But if you're gonna be in this podcast, Environment and cover the stories and cover the news of the XFL. Don't throw BS out there, just, you know, Yeah. I mean, I just, I mean it, and like I said, you know, I get, you know, people are waiting on news and everyone wants everything. Everyone's hungry for everything. I would rather come out and say, we've got nothing to talk about this week. Let's talk about the Superbowl. What'd you think? And at least, you know, sell your personalities and the reasons that people are listening to your show. Then feel the need to, you know, broadcast and then just like pure. I just, I had to turn it off. I was like, this is like offensive to me as someone that does that. So just, I don't want to get to whatever and turn people off, but I just. Just know that I do spend a lot of time. We do spend a lot of time, you know, we work, we talk with XFL riders. They do spend a lot of time on this. And so anyway, I just wanted to get that out of the way and just know if you do appreciate what we do, the work, you know, we've got all this stuff. I spend a lot of time on this. It'll show.com/review. We really appreciate getting your reviews on the podcast. XFL show.com/review. We got spring league stuff today, we've got XFL stuff and we've got fan controlled football stuff. And so I just, if you appreciate the work that we're doing, I would appreciate that you, it means a lot to me to get that in return. As soon as I give you crap about the Google doc being three pages all the time. No one works harder on this podcast and read, I show up. Basically, I read the stuff that read posts. He spends probably I wanna say. He's really involved in it. And then that's the thing. Give him crap, three page Google doc. But honestly, if it weren't for that meticulous nature that Reed has had with his podcast, it wouldn't be anywhere near, as successful as it. You know, someone is right now. So yeah. All credit goes to you. I wanted to take that time and show you my appreciation for all the hard work you're doing, because I know. You got, you got. You do a lot. You, you run a business, you've got a family, you do a lot. So. Again, Appreciate it. Even going to give you a hard time. That's okay. So first question today. Ah, Paul. If I, if I started a business out, let's say I started, Hey, read, start, and best made videos. Starting the video production company. If I haven't shot a video yet, is that company still exist? Yes. Yes. So. Last week. We got another talking about, we do the big toasty in the XFL 21. And Brian just it's like a gimmick, something to talk about. First comments. Idiots, the lead kicked off 20 years ago, you guys are dumb. Is that what happened to us? Yes. Vince McMahon. And now I'm finally 21 years ago. I I'm not, I don't want to get into the whole wind his life began and when this life, and, but I'm just saying, if Vince announced the thing in 2020, I can say 20, 21 to 21 year anniversary. I'm just saying. Disagree. I mean, We did a whole podcast about it. It was like, we specifically said X about one point. Like we specifically said. Excellent. But the thing was, was at the expo. At one point they were kicked off. 2001 And not 2020. Anyway, I just wanted to get that out of the way that just, just because you know, that, that means right now, the accidental doesn't exist. XFL 2.1 or whatever. Cause they haven't kicked, you know, it still exists. It's still there. What entity is best. Yeah, it's an LLC or whatever. Paul. So Sunday, Monday, I got a lot of Facebook memories this week of us in our time in DC for the kickoff of the XFL. Are you surprised that we got no acknowledgement at all of the one-year anniversary of the first kickoff from any current XFL ownership? I I'm not surprised in terms of that, because I think that they want to. They want to start fresh again. They want to keep the heritage would start fresh in a way. So I think that's why you didn't see anything acknowledged. That's right. I mean, I'm generally curious. They're they're picking and choosing what parts to keep in, you know, in motion. In, in the collective conscience, so to speak. So I think that I, I'm not surprised. And I do think they should have acknowledged it, but, you know, Maybe just give me maybe their Twitter accounts. Weren't verified enough to, you know, Maybe they forgot their passwords. I don't know. I don't know what's happening. Yeah. I mean, we just have the, you know, I was posting videos of us from the thing called Boozer was liking it, you know, friend of the show. I mean, it was just nice to like kind of relive that I sell a lot of players post and then they keep us in mind when you come back and all this stuff inside. I wa I just would have been cool just to see, you know, happy birthday or something from the accident. This week's episode, we should have got the world war II. Caldera spa. That come on. There was this guy sitting next to us at the VC game. He was like dressed like a 1940s. Bye. Like he was getting the secret Intel from Roger. It was funny. Yeah. Yeah, row two at the, at the defenders. Kickoff. At Audi field yet we have this guy and yeah, full trench coat and hat looked like he was not. He loves it, everything. It was like, this guy does not belong here at all. It's actually just really excited to be there though. He's like smiling the whole time. He was having a great time. You had your jacket? I didn't have a jacket. It's all good. Yeah. Van van says, if you make him, if you get him a principal, wild cats logo, he will give you. He'll give you a Jersey. I'll work on. So big news, I would say lead story is I, I can, anytime I think about this, I think about like, like they returned to the King. Burner like it's Rudy. It's our King. It is Taylor. Hi, Nikki. Officially has signed. I saw a pen to paper inked on Instagram. He signed the two year deal with the Washington football team. That means that they want to try to see if he can contend for the starter job. That's what it means to me. I know it does. If you have. We just spoke, you know, If you look, if you look at the details of the contract, Cause cause at first blush it does. It's like [unknown]. Point, I think it's like 8.7, whatever my, if you look here, did you look at that? I sent over these details of the actual contract that come out. So for 2021, he gets $1 million, 500,000 guaranteed. Not too bad of a day. I think he bought dinner for his family last night is what I heard. And then it's, it's a bunch of game day, like, you know, so he can get up to $31,250 per game. If they win, they win the regular season. You know, the team makes the playoffs if the winds, the playoffs. So there's all these incentives built in. He gets $1 million signing bonus, not too shabby there. And then it escalates a little bit in 2022. So it's a $1.5 million salary. And then some incentives that way. So it's not like, I mean, I would take any contract. The Washington football team, but I mean, it's not just to put that in context. It's very much as a backup quarterback contract. That's clearly. Yeah, you're right. I'm sorry for putting that speculation out there, but I mean, Let's let's be honest though. If Taylor ends up winning the job. And let's. I mean, if he does. You never know he could win the job. If he wins the job, Washington's getting momentum. At at, at a very good rate. Very good rate. And if I'm doing the math correctly, the 2022 salary is. 750 K guaranteed because the pro roster bonuses are the other seven 50. So that's. That's a great contract for Taylor. I think it's a great contract for Washington. There's there's no, there's no losers here. Everyone's winning. Yeah. I think it's, I think it's fantastic. I think that the other speculation that I saw was just, it's funny to know that after the chiefs, so struggled against the Buccaneers on Sunday and the super bowl, you go back and go, Hey, yo Taylor played, you know, and I mean, I know it's the apples and whatever, but you know, Taylor held his own against the Buccaneers that were the super bowl with the champions. And so it is just interesting to note that as well, but he. Played really well, you know, was in with Rivera is in with management. I mean, there's just a lot of people rooting on Taylor. You know, obviously including us. And so I just really proud of him and whoever would have thought that the backup, you know, Bowel Hawks QB a year ago. I mean, you know, the first games were this weekend, the, you know, a year ago today, and now he's on the Washington football team under a two year deal, just phenomenal. And to point it out, His quarterback rating in the 2020 playoffs against Tampa Bay was the highest any quarterback had against the Tampa Bay defense. That's true. Yeah, look it up. Yeah. I mean, [unknown]. I still want to get that him and I might have to now, or I'm definitely going to get a high Nike at Washington football Jersey now. They still, I know they're like changing the name back or whatever, but if they could be selling the Washington football jerseys right now, I would really like to get one. With [unknown]. Okay. Next story on tap here is a Redbird getting into Wasserman media. Can you tell us why this was. So this just came out today. Just, it was, it was retweeted by bunch of XFL news. Yeah, rubber capital there. The investing company with Danny and the rock and. You know, the XFL staff. And so it's, I didn't know if you knew this Westerman media, but it is, he, it seemed like it was a big deal. Jared Cardinal a there, there. 30 To 40% of the evaluation. Aye. Aye. Aye. Was hoping that, you know, More of the details. I don't, I don't know. I'm trying to figure out how this relates to the XFL right now. Other than the Redbird capital being involved in it. Well, I don't know what. Wasserman media does, to be honest with you. Okay. Well, I was, I was trying to assess and last minute news, I saw some other media posted about it. Sorry about that. I wish I wish I had more. I just, I just want this to, I just didn't want this to come out tomorrow and have van there, so we'll go didn't you see the news about the Wasserman media purchase? So I've just, we're we're reporting on it. Rubber media investment company with the X validating the rock. They are buying into Wasserman media at 30, 40% of the stake. I just want to just want it to be in the show. There's no. Van. I don't want to hear anything about it. So we are reporting on that. I, yeah, I'm sorry. I don't know. I just, I that's. That's fine. I just, this. This is good. This is, I just want it to be on the record that we talked about it on the show. Okay. That's good. It looks like there's going to be another court date for the logos that the NFL oil Derrick logo situation with a rough necks. Does that cover the, that does cover the, the face. Logo too. And man. Oh, the man logo. Data's now, according to Josh Davis, the man local response date is now March 30th, where. The other one that oil Derrick is March 8th. So that's. Yeah, I think, cause it. I took both sides in that I took that either they, but they both got extended to the 30th that Joshua wasn't clear in the information presented. But it sounds like they're going to settle. It sounds like they're postponing that because they're having some settlement agreements. So, you know, I know there was a lot of concern about that changing. I would just have given up, I don't. You know, I don't get what the point is of dragging all this out for just the XFL to like, admit wrong. Josh didn't seem to think that any money was going to change hands or anything was going to change. So it just kind of wanted to add the NFL, just like a slap on the wrist kind of thing. It just seemed. Odd to me to go through all this work for, for that to be the end goal. Like, I don't think that the NFL should hold old trademarks against the new company. Like. I just don't think like it's a new company. Let's just let it go. Like they'll, they'll change the logo. I guarantee they don't want to be in hot water. The NFL they'll change the logo. I don't see any money changing hands here. But you do the C J. Josh seemed the thing they would, you do think that they'll they'll change the logo still? I do. Totally. I don't see why they wouldn't. They just, they don't want the headache, man. Yeah. I think it's one of those things you just want to flex it and move on and just, I think there's a million other alternatives you can come up with. I think you got too cute by half trying to replicate and do all that. And. Yeah. So also a happening around the NFL. Dealing with all the expo quarterbacks. There's still some questions to be answered at the quarterback level at the quarterback position in Carolina. Do you know what's happening here? A lot. It looks like a lot of stuff was, was potentially happening. Yeah, the Panthers were offering really trying to get Matthew Stafford. They were offering first round picks and Teddy Bridgewater for that just interesting. I don't know is Stafford with Santa for be better than Bridgewater. Yeah. You do. The reason why Stafford hasn't been great in Detroit is because he hasn't had the weapons. In Detroit. Detroit doesn't believe in a thing called an offensive line. They never have asked Barry Sanders all about that. And Barry was able to get the numbers he was able to get without an offensive line. That's how that tells you how good Barry Sanders was. Some younger listeners don't understand how great Barry Sanders was. He would have been the all time goat at running back if it weren't for his early retirement, because. Detroit didn't do anything to help protect him. So I think of Stafford had come around. I want to say. You know, in the Megatron era where they got Detroit picked like three wide receivers, first round picks, right in a row. If Stanford had the weapons in Detroit, we'd be talking about different Detroit team, but they've never put the weapons around Stafford to make him successful in Detroit. So, yeah, he's a great quarterback. It's an upgrade from golf in Los Angeles and the NFCS on notice. The NFC is on notice. I had a friend who posted something the other day is like, watch the cartels are gonna make the Superbowl. And I'm like, they're not going to win the division. Let alone finish second in the vision. Possibly they won't even finish third in the division because the Niners are going to be gut. They're going to be good. So staffer to the Rams is going to make the Rams that much better. Like. The Seahawks better watch out. They better shore up that defense and watch out because the Rams are going to be good. Now that Stafford has weapons around him. I digress. No that's and yeah, Russell was talking to me every day. He's not happy about getting hit so much. I do love on. Yeah, I do love on the sport shows when I watch good morning football every day. Seahawks, you know, West coast get very little love there. And I do love when they use the Russell Wilson. That whole soundbite that, okay. We're talking about Russell Wilson, all this, and there's like a segue to like staffer. And Dak Prescott and everything else. It's like, you know, you could actually use the Russell Wilson soundbites. You talk about Russell Wilson and the Seahawks. You would think you would think it did, you know, did you know that Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw. Played sports together. I don't know if you've heard that 3,424 times. I think we need that in the, in the weekend meme shared some more. That would be great if we could get. But anyway, it is interesting. We have been talking about the Carolina, that PJ Walker, a situation for a agnostic. Now you have forever. And it was interesting when all this came out and. Ah, excellent news have been Matt, you know, we're featured over there. Matt wrote an article about the whole PJ Walker to your mom. Like. Yeah, we have been talking about that for weeks. Welcome to the board. I don't know if I would like to think that they listened to the podcast, maybe not, but we ever died in about the PJ Walker thing. I want to get shot in the back on when you know, there's nothing really right now, like. In Symantec to talk about. But, yeah, they're definitely they're shopping around Teddy. They're trying to get Stafford. There's other thing, Teddy, one like another sportsman award, this art Rooney, where people love to hate Bridgeway. That's the thing is like rural distancing. Like him, he can't win football games, but he is winning all these like press awards. He won the art, whatever the art, very good guy, a warrant or whatever we talked about before me. People love. He seems to be a really nice guy from all intents and purposes. Everything I hear seems to be a really nice guy. I just think he's put into a situation where he's, he can't win no matter what, like. You know, even if they went eight and eight, You've got two teams that NFC South that are monsters. You're never gonna, you're not gonna, you're not gonna get past the box while Brady's there. And you're not going to get past the saints. Well, I, you know, you don't know. Drew Brees. You don't know Jamis, even Jay Ellis. Not James is not a friend. I mean there. And run on him. I know. Crazy. I got to tell you this, and people are gonna be like, what. You're going to see Jamis. I honestly think this is what I think of St. Should do. The saints. James is fine. But the saints probably need a pocket passer type of quarterback. And then you can switch that pocket passer type of quarterback out with taste some Hill every once in awhile, if he's still under contract. Hey. Running running the Wildcat. I like take some Hills game. I think he's just, he's exciting to watch. I just, I will never get, I forgive them for a taken Alvin Kamara is, could it, could it have the record there guy had to get, had to give to his son that, that, that QB run on that on Christmas day. Kumar with had seven rushing touchdowns that they weren't given DSM held that. So my friend Sandra is about. This is. Still complaining. It happened a week, week 16, still upset. The Oh, yeah. So anyway, last night about, yeah. PJ, it just, it's crazy. I think he will probably sit around there as a backup, but I, yeah, I don't anticipate seeing him a lot. I mean, especially if they make a big move, bring in somebody else, you know, PJ Walker is, is not seeing any time at all. I mean, it's. That's not an ideal situation for us. You know, we have a highly key now. They work on the following on that round, but it is unfortunate with all that going on with BJ. Makes sense. They just to note here. Awesome. Walter sends a one year extension with the 49ers he was with the renegades. So just kind of keeping some eyes on that. The other big news, and I guess we should have played this at the beginning of the show. Obviously we have Quintin flowers. Former XFL, Tampa Vipers QB, and that he's with this, the fan controlled football. Now he's coming up on the show. We talked with him after practice the other day. His teammate, Dale Cornelius, who was one of the quarterbacks with the Vipers signed up in the Canadian football league. And he's up there with member. We talked last week about the Vipers coach that got signed up there. Jamie Elizondo. So Cornelius is joining Jamie up in the CFL. So it's all connected. So there you go. Be careful on that. Turf Taylor. Canadian football league. Is rough on your knees. And I want him to say this too. We were talking about Russell Wilson. Yep. The Seahawks are not training. Russell Wilson stopped dreaming. No, absolutely not. Just, you know, it is interesting, but I, so with all this and we get into, I know we had a lot of, I posted earlier in the week, we had, you know, Quintin coming on. A lot of questions about him with the spring league and him with the vibrates. Cause he, you know, he has a little bit of like, [unknown]. [Unknown] following him a little bit. We didn't get into all the spring league stuff. I kind of know that story. So if you really interested in now that had a couple of people messaged me, just, you know, we can talk about that offline. Didn't want to like bombard him with, like, what was all the drama with the Vipers? What was all the drama with the spring league? What was all there? You know, we're trying to like, you know, he's in pain control football. We're trying to talk about that. But with the Vipers, it is interesting. Cause he played, he did have the issue with that with Trestman we get into all of that. Cornelius kinda got that QB role flowers, thought that he should have got that. Instead. Obviously now we'll see how he performs in fan controlled football and Cornelius does up in the CFL. So it was this kind of interesting, but that was kind of the beef. We get into that a little bit at the end with that with Quintin and the Marc Trestman thing and all of that. So just. If you don't know that story, if you, if you don't, if you're not a XFL fan, that's kind of the issue is that they have three quarterbacks, Aaron Murray, Cornelius, and then quit and flowers. And he thought that, you know, he felt like he should've got the playtime. So. I think that makes me a perfect segue. Let's take a break. I'm back. Talk to Quintin flowers right here. Now we've got Quintin flowers. How's it going, man? It's going good. Can't complain. How about yourself? We're doing great. We're going to get you guys stay in, safe over there. Yes, sir. Good to hear. I told I told. I quit. And I said, yeah, we're so excited to get him on. Cause he strikes the perfect core of all the different, you know, as an XML podcast, even the fan controlled football that doesn't always seem to excited to be talking about XFL staff, we are selling [unknown]. Podcast covering that. So, how did you get involved in all this? How did they reach out to you? How did you find out about the fan controlled football league? Honestly. I've been getting emails from my Sean Lynch, like over and over and over. Honestly at first, I did not think this was a real league. Because I've been getting these emails like years. And I'm like, man, I don't know if this really, I don't know if this thing. He didn't want to start. So my agent finally hit me up and was like, Hey, they want you to play ball. He really wants you. They really want to see, you know, your work. And at the end of the day, I was like, football is football, you know? No, I'm still chasing my dream. I still want that shot. Just go over here and do what you gotta do, no matter what it takes. And y'all what made me come over. Cool. Cool. You started for the zapper Saturday on the script for the scrimmage. What was that like? And when did you find out. You're going to be playing. I found out, I would say. A week, two weeks after my birthday. I found out that I will be coming over to FCS football and. You know, just try to see some of the guys that's over here and doing whatever it takes to get back to our poles to be. So, once I got here at first, they was saying it was seven Oh seven. First day, he came to mind. I'm like 707 light. This is not my type of thing, but at the end of the day, I looked at it as. This could be your shot back to where you're supposed to be. You got to take full advantage of every opportunity you get. And just for me to get back in the quarterback world. The place I love to be. It's just been fun. The coaches. You know, being, working with me with my mechanics. Coach Jenkins, you know, letting me know what I'm doing wrong and what. Not doing with my feet. So I just try to take everything. As of. Going to school there. We might've lost you there. We might have lost your for a second. I think, yeah, someone is just calling my phone. Sorry, you guys. But, yeah. So it's just like going to school, you, you back at. You back at. For one, you gotta learn everything all over again. So at the end of the day, I was just training, doing all season. My quarterback, coach, coach OB. And once I got here, I just locked in and stay focused. You played really well on Saturday. You had a couple of TDS. I think you had a rushing TD as well in the scrimmage. What was it like obviously a different look and feel than a normal MFL XFL game. What was it like playing in that arena on the field and everything going on? Reny ages. Everything happened quicker and everything happened faster. So it helps me build up. You know, My mechanics and work on things like enemy, air routes, quicker routes. Defense moving quicker then, you know, it's supposed to because everything condensed. So with me going through that. It was very fun. Just being out there and being able to. You'll read a little coverages again, that they have. Making my man to man. Throws and giving my guys opportunity. You just have fun. What are, what are your feelings on some of the other rules and changes you've seen that have been different from regular football, as opposed to this. When he first told me about, you got to have one feet in I'm like. That's not what I'm used to. Two fee. If you'd say these guys pros. You know, let these guys be pros and two fees should be my thing. For receiving cash. These guys. Yes. These guys better make me better just by where I supposed to put the ball. To where do you guys can get day two feet in. So. It's a lot of rules change. You mostly have to roll out the pocket most of the time. Which is basic, but a lot of the drawbacks is different. That's my thing. I feel like they break in a lot of rules, but at the end of the day, if you're a quarterback, you should be able to adapt to anything that comes your way. But to that point, it's these it's the fans that are voting on some of these rule changes to do these various things. So. You know, there's yeah, exactly. Like Reed is. Right there. You know, Yeah. But at the same time, It's it's causing you a little bit of an adjustment or maybe a big adjustment too. Yes, sir. I'll say it's a little marinade. It's not, it's not that big of a deal at the end of the day. Football is football. If you're a ball player, you're a ball player. Like always save your dog. You will be a doll. You go find a way to ball. You will find a way to do what you have to do on the field, off the field, no matter what it is. So that's my biggest thing, whatever the course. Telling me, whatever it is, whatever their fans want to see, I'm going to do. I'm going to go out there and do whatever it takes just to put on a show and be the best I can be. I know that w when they announced it and especially, you know, when you got in there, they announced a lot of the players coming down for the bubble. I would say you're definitely at one of the higher level, just in terms of name recognition of players, right. That are being involved in this, would you say that's accurate and how do you feel about that? Oh, yes. I would say accurate by the end of the day. No, I don't down talk no one at the end of the day, everybody. Came from somewhere, everybody been down before everybody. Probably did not get that shot. So at the end of the day, you can go out there. And play against the best defense. And no telling what will happen. So at the end of the day, Like I say, you have to be a baller. You have to go out there and get your job done. So with the guy that's been here. Deandre from her swag, Johnny Manzell at the end of the day, football is football and we have to do what we have to do once we're on the field. Did you feel when, when they, we saw the scrimmage come up on Saturday and you were out there playing as key B, do you take that as a vote of confidence that you were the first person? You know, obviously I think the league has put a lot of attention behind Manzell. He just flew in last week. He was in quarantine. Right. He wasn't able to play. Do you think that that was, did they chose you specifically to go out there and be the first quarterback for a reason? Because you have a lot of the experience maybe to perform. I'll say yes. Lately. I have been going up first with everything, even though his new rules. Like I say. I still have to adapt, which I did. I went out there. Three pack. I think it was like three passing touchdowns and one rushing myself. That's just me being comfortable with me. No, what I have to go out here and do, if it's there. Why not take that shot, you feel me? So it's like, It's just me being back in that quarterback world is, is. It's a relief. Is me. Is me being me is me having fun. When people tell you. What you can and what you can do. I was in the NFL as a running back. I used to have to talk to myself every day. Like, Hey, you gotta go out here and. Be you, you have to find a way to get comfortable. You have to find a way to make this team. You have to adapt as just me, no matter where you at you after a debt. To what's going on. So I used to tell myself as a running back is either they going to hit you or you're going to hit noon. Which one you're going to be. You need to go be to handle it. And I don't want to be that nail to where you think you could take shots on me all day. You can do whatever you want to be. All they know at the end of the day, I'm going to figure it out. And when I figure it out, that's going to be your problem. So some of these fans are calling. Some of these fans are calling for ownership. To use their franchise tag on you. How do you feel about that? I love it. I love it. At the end of the day, because you have to understand. And like, I always tell people I've been through, I don't use it. You know, to get publicity anything, I don't care about the same. I don't care about this type of stuff, but the things that I've been through and I'm still not giving up, like a lot of people would have been, a lot of people would have stopped. A lot of people would say, Oh, I can't take this no more, but at the end of the day, What you want to leave your legacy as that's how I look at it. I had a chance to go to big schools. I had a chance to do all these types of things, but it's about creating your own legacy and being you. Not being what people want you to be legal. Love you, they're going to hate you at the end of the day. And EPS. You know what you're supposed to do, you know what you have to get done? And that's me. I have to be real. Real is rare. You come across a lot of real people. A lot of real people. We'll tell you exactly what they want to do it, make it happen. And as just me, I have to give it blood raw. I have to be real with your coach. If you don't like me, just telling me that, just be upfront with me. That's me. I'm not changing my way towards you. I'm not going to disrespect you because at the end of the day, Real. So just a little context here. We're talking to you on Monday, you're going to be doing the draft you're on Wednesday. Our episodes airing Friday. We just found out today that journey Erdman got tagged from the wild aliases to be their quarterback. Have you been in talks with any of the teams about coming on? You know, I know a lot of people want you to go with the bees with Marshawn. Have you talked to anybody about specific teams? I just talked to, I just talked to, I would say. Marshawn Marshawn Lynch. I think he wanted me to be a part of his team. He just told me, just wait to see, just, just be patient. But at the end of the day, I don't care if I gave franchise tag or not. I'm still going to go out there and ball. Like I know I. So all that franchise tag. [Unknown] that don't mean that. You still have to go out there and ball at the end of the day. So. You can get for a child. Tag today and not be franchise tag. You feel me? After that. So it's still on you. You still have to go out there and perform, you still have to go out there. And make these stoves. At the end of the day. I don't care about that. I just want to play football. I want to be me. Let me be me. And we're going to have four. On the, on that, on that note after, after you get out of the fan controlled football environment, what are you looking at next year? Are you looking at another NFL? Opportunity or potentially going back to the XFL. Given, if it starts on the 2020. 2022 Deadline with her. Sending forth, honestly, I want to get back in NFL, but at the end of the day, I got to leave that up to God because the way my life is going. You know, I was in NFL. Aren't working hard. Got released. I've been going through. Stuff with XFL. I know you guys probably know that. Coach Jasmine told me I won't ever play football again. So it's like once he told me that I haven't been on the field is my first time being back on the field, actually playing contact again. So it's like, it's a lot of things that I've been through. I'm just ready, whoever gone. Give me the opportunity to lead a team or just even give me that shot. To just be me. I'm just ready for whatever call comes first. Yeah, just, I bought the end. You don't feel don't feel like you got anything you don't want to talk about, but I did follow all that, you know, with the Vipers and everything and leaving and coming back. Any, any final thoughts on the exit fell in general about that first run back in 2000. I would say. It was helping a lot of people because you gotta think about it too, guys. Who was coming out of college, not getting the opportunity. And the XFL coming open now is big for a lot of people, guys like me. When I came out the NFL. I didn't know what my next move was going to be. I didn't know if I was going to get picked up or not. So the XFL aisle. I pray it caused. Goes back in. Guys get opportunities that play football again, guys get opportunity to be on the field again. And I just pray. Hey. On my way and call saying that they want me to be a starter or. Give me a shot. I'm ready. I wanted to, I just want to touch back on, back on that. I guess I kind of missed that whole issue with Trestman what you got. Let go. When you came back. That's that's what I'm hearing. Right. That's what that's. What happened when with your situation? Was it Trestman that lens? No, it was, it was it. Trust me that said that when he initially let you go. That you would never play football. Yes. Then while he made me come back. He made me come by as. There's a whole big thing, but. Like I said, there's nothing against post-grads man. It's nothing against them. Coaches that was there. I just wanted to play football. Fantasy. And then Florida itself player. They are senior for they self. I just wanted my shy and I never got it. That's rather unfortunate, man. I'm really sorry that, that, you know, I, you know, the, they say it's a business, but at the end of the day, like, When people say stuff like you'll never, ever play football again. That's still personal. And I feel really, I feel really bad that, that that happened to you. And I'm glad you're getting another chance to prove them all wrong. Yes, sir. Just take any one day at a time. That's all you can do. Good to hear. Good to hear. Any other final thoughts, anything I you're having a good time. You're staying safe in quarantine. Have you had a chance to interact with Johnny Manzell yet? I think today would maybe be the first day he would actually be on the practice field. Have you seen him at all? No, I didn't get to see him at all. It was fun. Saying, I don't think he came out today. How did you see him today? So I don't know where it come out of quarantine or only. Very cool. Quinn flowers. We appreciate your time. We'll be watching you this, this a year in the fan controlled football league. Also going forward. If you get another shot in the NFL will definitely, we'll definitely hope to have you back on and talk about your experiences going forward. Yes, sir. I appreciate you guys for having me. Of course. Appreciate it. Take care and stay safe. Thanks for coming on. Sir. Yes, sir. You guys do. One of the things Quintin flowers for dropping by on the Mark cast and talking about his time with the XFL of course, and how everything's going with fan controlled football. It is interesting. Yeah, so we, we recorded that on Monday. I, he, you know, the draft happened last night as of recording Friday, as of the show, Erin. Quentin was the first pick of the bees. Very happy for that. He had talked in the interview. Y'all y'all, I've been talking with Marshawn and I've been texting him. So we kinda knew where that was leaning anyway. I mean, it wasn't official official until now, but it is good. I'm glad that we snagged him. Megan time after practice. You know, it's hard for these players. Cause you know, they're in the camps all day or they're doing all this stuff and then making time. So all the player's journey. You know, Quentin. Taking the time to come on these podcasts. I really do appreciate that because I know that like they're crazy running around doing a bunch of stuff. So. Definitely. So would that being said, let's go to fan controlled football. Now you're saying they had about 500 viewers for the scrimmage. Is that what you're saying? Yeah. So here's my first dive pointed about this. And then I watched the scrimmage. I watched all this stuff this week. There's a lot of finger told stuff. Sorry, you guys. So the scrimmage did about 500 viewers. It got leaked. So that was the big drama on Saturday. It was, we knew that they were going to do these scrimmage test games. Fan controlled football, came out and said, You know, we're not going to broadcast these, you know, they're testing out production and stuff. And a bunch of the players ended up leaking. It was streaming on a separate fan controlled football had like a backup. Stream account, you know, it was like FCF underscore Oh five or whatever. And basically it leaked the games. And so I don't know. How many people, they, they, they wanted to be on that. I certainly imagined it was less than the 500 that were watching it. Like, I think they didn't want that many people watching it. Cause they were testing out, you know, camera stuff. They were testing out production stuff. They were, I mean, they very much was not meant for broadcast. Right. A lot of like talking to producers off camera, you could hear a lot of different things. And so. But honestly, it looked really good. They had about 5,000 combined between the kind of funny and the fingernail football at the peak for the draft, which was last night. And I was talking, we'll get into more of the numbers later. I was talking with Matt comments, one of the guys that works with me. He thinks that's a really good numbers. He thought for a draft cause Matt lives on Twitch all the time. I don't know how that like judge Twitch viewership and all that. He thought that that was a really commendable number for a, basically just a draft of people walking out. Oh, yeah. Was it leaked or was it leaked? Well, that's the day I. Patrick was on there a lot friend of the chef, Patrick, these are really doing the Lord's work, trying to carry this broadcast and explain what was going on. I just had some thoughts. I know we're going to watch the games and stuff. We aren't there all of these, but they they're really trying to hide the fact that there's no fans. Right. Cause it's, you know, just to feel that you really like. I absolutely hate the black end zones. I think it looks terrible. I think it makes the field look short. You have all this black surrounding everything, and then you have the field and then you have these black end zones with no text at all. Even if it had been like FCF and white or whatever, but it makes it feel like 10 yards shorter than it would be. You know what I'm saying? Because the ends it's like pitch black. Or point the eye. Seeing the wild ACEs jerseys. I still waiting on mine. Yeah, we ordered them. They were supposed to be here before the show. I, I, I don't like them. I, I, it kinda looks like a guest on shirt. Dorothy and I were talking about the glacier Boyz. I do hate them. They have the best jurors, even though it looks like the firecracker popsicles. Other just weird things. We have to get in all this, but like, The whole, the whole game is set up. I don't like the kicking. They, they made the big deal there. You know, they're not having to kickers. They made fun of the kickers. I tweeted about this. Earlier this week. I don't think that me and I was going to ask you about this before we got into all the other podcast stuff at the beginning of my other rant. I'm tweeting constructive criticism is not the same as hating on something. And D do you, do you know the difference between hating on something and then criticizing something? I know the difference. Yes. And so like me saying. I don't think it's prudent for a fan-girl football to make fun of kickers and people that enjoy specialists positions five minutes into their broadcast and say, well, we don't need you. We will get other people, nobody watches football for the kickers. I, I just wouldn't do that. Right. Like, I want anybody that would listen to this podcast. Right. I wouldn't be like, well, if you, if you like such and session, and then we don't want you here. And they just very much feels that way. And I know that that that's maybe not that they. What they want, but I do think it's a mistake to eliminate the kicking position. I know that you liked them eliminating the kicking position. I feel like it feels. Just like. Scrimmage all the time. It just doesn't feel like a game. They come out, they start, they go, they come out, they stop, they go. It just doesn't feel like you get what I'm saying. Yeah, I mean, kickoff returns can be explosive. They can be. And they're exciting. Special teams work is exciting. I don't, you know, I mean. Let's let's put this in context. When did we know the Seahawks won the Superbowl? When did we know? 12 seconds into the second half on a kickoff return? That's when we knew the Seahawks were going to beat the Broncos. It was over at that point. How would it be? Would it have been over and have it not been for Percy Harvin, running that kickoff back. Probably not. We we, you know, or probably, I think the Seahawks were going to win regardless. Yeah, but that was the nail in the coffin. And that was great special teams work. To have that kickoff return that just. Ended the game. Those kinds of play-making situations can happen. When you kick off. I mean, the game is called football. So I just, I know that there was a lot of controversy when Sam Schwartz Dean got brought in to do the XFL rules and all of that. And there was a lot of push for him back when, you know, when XFL. The first, you know, this go round the version two. They brought him in yet. We read it the kickoff. We redid the clock and all that. And they asked him, they said, we gotta get rid of this. You know, we gotta get rid of special teams. You. Yeah. That's less positions. We gotta pay. That's less players. We've got to deal with. That's less, whatever. And he goes big games, football games, football, like you can't get rid of kicking and field goals and all this stuff and maintain the essence of the game. The the, the other big note. I've just, we, again, we don't have to like, They set the field up, like you're playing Madden and not like you're watching it on TV, if that makes sense. So you're, you're always looking down the field at the end zone. Like you would be playing Madden and not, they have a side camera angle, but like even the logo, like the fingernail football logo at the 50 yard line. Is turned and you always are going to the one end zone. There's no. You could run it back to the other end zone, but every camera is pointed towards the big tightened Tron that they have with the production stuff. Interesting. So it's a little tweaks like that. I will say they are very impressed with all their production stuff. I'm not saying it does not look great. I'm saying that that is like expected. Welcome to the club stuff. It's the same thing we watch wrestling for years. You know, all these other companies, if you want to compete, you have to look big scale. I'm not saying the TVs and the monitors and all that. Aren't amazing they are, but that is what is expected for people now to turn on, to watch a football game. So, yeah, I think that that's great. They're talking a lot about all that stuff, but. You know, Again, it was a scrimmage, w we'll we'll judge the games on Saturday and Sunday, but you know, they, they were trying to figure stuff out. They ended up cutting a lot of stuff, you know, they kind of the game short cause they were just trying to figure out the TV stuff. But I just, it didn't feel like that back and forth. You get kicked in the balls, running the balls, doing the ponds, do it. There's just so much of the game that this missed out when you're not doing that. And Dorothy said it was boring. She thinks it's boring. Dorothy didn't like it, or they didn't like it. I asked you and I asked Vince all football scout. I said, I don't watch a lot of her in that football. Is this arena football? If this is maybe this isn't for me. It's it's the kicking is still in arena football. Picking an arena football. They do. It just, it feels that way. They also do not want to mention the XFL at all. Like at all, either one of the guys last night, During the draft, when Quintin flowers came out, they go, Oh, you know, he played in the XFL. Cause on the scrimmage, they're like, Oh, that league, we don't want to talk about that. Like they don't, I'm like, guys, this is your you're going to have the same viewers, like people that are watching the XFL now are the same, are some of the same people that are going to watch it again. Like. I would. In my first ever beta tests with ever, I wouldn't be turning off fans of any kind. I would not be. I want them to be doing that at all. This is Chris. This is constructive criticism folks. Hating would be like, Oh God, why are they pushing Roman reigns on WB Hagen? That would be hating. Yeah. It's it's it's [unknown]. Yeah, we watch wrestling. You know, 20 whatever, like no. Oh, it's fake residence that is hating and saying like, Hey, I don't like the direction they took this particular character. And I wish that they would have done this and said, because such instance, that is a, that is a criticism. It is okay. I did a poll 87% of our listeners. It's not the scrimmage was better than, than they expected. So that's good. I mean, I think, I guess I think the product looked good. I've got the draft looked really good and we'll get into that a little bit, but yeah, I mean, I think kudos for kind of getting caught with their pants down with having the stream like leaked. Patrick really. I mean, not to like suck up and whatever. I mean, he really did carry a lot of that stuff. And I was like, I tweeted him. I said, man, I'm like, I couldn't have done that. And I don't know. You know, you have obviously never called like sporting events before. I mean, I'm sure you've hosted things, but like, Tremendous work all around that way. I'm sure it was not easy to do that. So. And some of the tags being handed out of course, journey got tagged by the wild. The beasts have tagged Troy Evans, who is Marshawn Lynch's cousin and the glaciers tagged. David [unknown]. Their quarterback. And then don't forget the big, Mr. Manzell a finally through a couple of passes this week. What do you know. He he's trying to come out now and soften that. He's trying to say, well, I'm really here as more of a player coach, and I really want to, like, I'm not trying to make a run at this at all. And I really wanted whatever. I understand all that. And that's valuable. I thought they did a better job during the draft highlighting some of the players as they came down again. I know the scrimmage wasn't meant for like broadcast, but it really did feel like we talked a lot about like what the coach Jenkins or whatever. Th the, the lead coach for a fan controlled football, he's kind of a tiger King looking guy. Like he had like a big jacket and pants and stuff. There was a lot of times like, Oh, isn't that so funny, the coach I'm like, let's talk about the players. Let's talk about the players. So, you know, I've had the draft, they did a better job of highlighting and talking about stats. They brought in, they flew in a guy to do. Like actually knew football staff to talk a lot about the players coming in. And so that was helpful too, to really highlight. You know, like Quintin with the XFL and stuff, as the players came in. A new wildest is owner of course, Jack settlement of snapback sports. Do you know him? I don't he's one, I guess he's like a huge, yeah, like million, whatever people on Snapchat. It's a good fit. He was on with Greg on the, the, they're kind of funny, a Twitch drafting. I believe I w you know, they. When the fingers are football, did the draft on last night, they did their whole thing on finger to football and then kind of funny coast dream debt. And then Austin Eckler did this, but so it's good. It's good. I think now all the teams have three and there's a piece to, it feels a little more, you know, you have Miro and Marshawn and Renee, and then you have Greg with Austin and then Jack on there. So. The other, I just add new for the sad note for the XFL people as Jeremiah Spicer, he's a former, he was in the spring league and he was in exit bell. He got cut. I guess he had announced he came out and tweeted this week. Like, yeah, I'm not going to be playing the fan controlled football. A lot of the people thought. Oh, you know, is he did. They do something to upset him. Does he not like the game? Does he not like whatever, I guess he got cut. So he's going to be playing in the indoor football league now. So Godspeed to Jeremiah. Okay. And Renee Montgomery, one of the owners. For the beasts retired from the WNB after 11 seasons. I think she won two titles, two titles in the last, like the library. The NBA. So happy trails to Renee. She's got great things coming up. She's going into activism, a lot of activism, things. Renee's got going on. So. Best of luck to her too. I saw you deleted the fact that the great clips and now instead they're the official sponsor. The hair gets. That's. I mean, that's, that's innovative. That's cool. Right clips. Great. Great clips is the official sponsor for haircuts, for the Fayetteville football. Okay. I mean, I know neither of us have hair. I, I washed my hair with. With a bar soap. I mean, I that's what little hair I have, but anyway, Just yeah. Great clips. Is that there you go. Kudos. Great clips. Yeah. Couple last notes on this finger's off football news. Live they're live tweeting all this stuff. If you follow a fingernail football news on Twitter and then vans with all football scout. Really doing a good job, tweeting all the players, you know, the live tweeting, all that. If you wanted to keep up on all that, I had it on the whole time in the background, but I'll, I'll admit that. You know, it's a long, it's just a lot. So if you want to get kind of this stuff, that way, that's a good thing. And then I was making fun of the owners. You know, like Marshawn and Renee and everybody for not being on the live feed for the draft. Patrick diesel. A lot of the owners are flying in for the game Saturday that he said Marshawn, and all those people are coming in. So what'd you think about that? Cause they had been very quiet so far. Looking forward to that. I know they've been very quiet murals, docking. I was still cause he's a coward. So looking forward to actually seeing him. In the owner's box on Saturday or. Saturday. Yeah. Looking forward to seeing him in the owner's box. On Saturday down there for a fan controlled football. They, they tried to get Richard Sherman and to do like a zoom call. And it was like every zoom call that you've ever been on in the last year. Like, I can't hear you. I can't hear you. Like. Try that like, we're trying to talk like, it's like the music's like blasting and he's like, I can't, I can't say they, they got him out. Greg called in on speakerphone. Cause like Greg was, you know, it's all alive. So it was cool that like Greg Miller was like, literally, like we just pick up the phone with my call Patrick and be like, that's your full of poop or whatever, like, you know, but he was like making fun. It was kind of, it's cool. It's more interacted that way. I like that aspect of it. And if you can get some of the evolvement, that's why I think, you know, Greg Miller is a better type of host. There may be era owner. They may be Marshawn in doing stuff like that. I think that this league as strives for more of that sort of. Crap talking, you live interactive stuff, but you got to have the players there. Go to the owner and speaking of Richard Sherman, he said recently that he's going to do two more seasons in the NFL and then call it a career. I want Seattle to bring him back. I want him to end his career where it started. I would really like that, but I think he's going to go to Las Vegas. I really think he's going to the Raiders. I think he's going to the Raiders. Yeah. He's he's a, he's an interesting guy and Russell, Wilson's not going to the Raiders either. Someone posted an article last night that said here's all the reasons Russell Wilson should go to the Raiders. And something about Sierra having a residency, stupid, stupid. I've shared the story. When I called Richard Sherman, Russell Wilson. Right. Have I shared that on the VOD gas is how are we going too long? Is that okay for you to share this real quick? No, Sharon. Sarah real quick. I was at when I was back at Q 13 and I, they had just signed Russell Wilson and Richard Sherman. I did not know a lot of football stuff at the time. Like I just moved back to Seattle. I didn't know any of this stuff. And so they, Richard Sherman was doing like a signing at Dick's hamburgers. And so they go, Hey, you got to go. And that you got to go interview him for Q 13 and then you got to get him Aaron Levine's sports director was like, you need to get him to say, Hey, I'm Richard Sherman. You know, you're listening to cue it up sports. Cause that was like our. Yeah. Yeah. Like, we need to get people to say that like, like you're listening to the Mark House, like I'm cold Boozer or whatever. And so the whole time I'm like, okay, it's. Like what's it. Cause I, you know, I, I just knew there were two big stars just got signed. When was Richard rum was Russell. I was like, I'm going to mess this up so we can get down there. And, you know, Richard Sherman is kind of an intimidating guy and I'm was not used to like interviewing sports people at all. And I go up, I'm like, hi, I, as like before we start, can you go? Hi, I'm Ruth. Sherman, can you, can you. He's like, what am like, can you say, hire through us? [Unknown] he's like monitoring is richer. It's like, I'm so sorry, sir. Read, not that you've. Meant to do this, but there's, there's a lot of instances where that happens. Specifically to black people. I hate to go get woke here, but like there was a morning show reporter here in LA that mixed up. Samuel Jackson and Morgan Freeman Watts. Wow. And it's and it's like, it's, it's almost. Not saying you're racist, but that's, that's the connotation. Yeah. My thing was, it could have been any than any athlete in the world. It could, it was an honest mistake. There were two high profile draft picks. It's an honest mistake. It really. It's not as bad as the guy that got paid to cover the Superbowl, asking the offensive coordinator, Todd Bowles questions or whatever, after the Superbowl. Yeah, that was I'm like, I'm like you are paid. You were paid to fly in. They're doing stuff outside my window. Hang on. Damp. Okay. Happy right now. XFL show.com/au. And we got a phone call coming into my computer XFL show.com/march to buy your exhale, Mark Hass merge. Also XML show.com/review. To leave us a review. So anyway, but I, yeah, that was bad. I'm like you are paid to fly in the cover of the super bowl. And like you're doing, even though you're confusing the two black, like I was like, that is really bad. A buyer, a buyer. And Todd Bowles look nothing alike. They don't want anything. Look, anything alike. At all. In any way, shape or form. How do you mess that up? Anyway. So yeah, just give me down finger until stop, but just, you know, big weekend, Saturday, we've got the two games, glacier, Boyz and wild ACEs, and then the bees and the zapper is I'm going to be there, you know? Everyone's really excited to watch. So it should be fine. The teams are set. Vince thinks that all the teams were pretty, even all football scout report, again, go to his Twitter. He's got all the breakdowns of all the teams and the ratings and stuff, but he thought overall, it just went really well. The draft doing good. There was no big snafoos. Everybody looked excited. It looked high end. All the things that you would want, if you're, you know, investing in this league. I know Matt. Again, he, you know, like people that are paying money for this, it looked really good. So just, yeah, I mean, really, I have some nitpicks, but overall I would say positive so far. All right. So we got to take another break cause we're running a little bit long read. And when we come back, cause you know, the commercials that are audio distributor wants to put the commercials in. When we come back, we'll finish up. Spring league and a garbage stuff. Sorry. Well, you gotta tease sometimes, like what's coming up on the show. They always know, it's the stuff that annoys me at the end of the day. You had a screen league stuff first. This is. We've got some big stuff. Spring league signings, conquers a kicker punter, Matt Mendell of. Matt mangle. I'm happy to go big. This is huge. People love Matt. Matt's a big video game streamer. He is like fans, everyone, everyone loves Matt. He kicked the longest field goal ever at the spring league and the championship game. He got signed to the CFL. Ah, he is, it's good for him. People love Matt. And so this is, this is all kudos to him. Nuker like 46 or whatever on a, on Twitter. Knowing to the Montreal. Alawites the jouster is defensive back. Cameron Kelly, going to the Hamilton tiger cats. And then Shaquille Cooper is heading to the BC lions after two seasons sentiment, Edmonton. So there you go. Yeah. A couple other notes on this. So we talk about these signings a lot. I was talking with Vince this week. I remember last year when the CFL cancel, then we like told Chad Ochocinco and he didn't know. And remember all that. Yeah, so. A lot of these players, they were in the spring league this year should have been. In the CFL already. Right? Got it. So a lot of this, like, Hey we're so, I mean, and I like covering the staff, talking about the players in like [unknown] and all that stuff, but it is interesting that they're kind of taking credit for like, Hey, look at this player, they went from the spring league to the CFL and it's like, well then. Did did he, did he really, or like where he, you know, they just wanted to play and they just took some times anyways. So I just thought that was an interesting note. Coal McDonald, the one exception he got signed, I believe to the Cardinals have so, sorry, last week we talked about it. He is like the one exception that like a spring league guy came in and played, got signed in, in the NFL. But, but some of these people are, yeah. I'm going to, can we look that up? And I saw the Titans. Call me Donald went to the Titans. He signed to the no, they sign them the Cardinal sign into a futures contract at this time. He used to play for the time. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Got. Got it. Anyway, I just want to be correct. Josh Johnson. I hate to be incorrect facts about anything. Also. I heard from friend of the show, Brian Woods. Yeah, well, Kenny, Kenny, I'm working on it. I know Kenny. We were tweeting this week, you know, Patrick DS, I guess it's going to say in Kenya and I fingernail football merge. Kenny I'm working. I'm working on Brian. I just see, I was emailed Brian this week. He says they've got the T the TV stuff's already to go for the spring league. Kickoff is in may. He's going to follow up and I want to get him back on the show to talk about all that. So you're works out well for us. Timing wise. Cause we got yeah, February, March, April for financial football. And then we go back to the spring. I go, Paula. So excited. But Hey. We we, it is theoretically a year or so, more away from, from XFL. So I think that that is a good time for us, for the podcast. I'm glad Brian consulted with us for a spring league kicking off in may after fingernail football. Cool. In other news, other news, Alex Smith. Things that, and I apologize. I'm going to show this is our faith. This isn't an here's what annoys me about this? There's going to be something that annoys me about this story. Alex Smith earns 49 out of 50 votes. For AP comeback player of the year and Ben Roethlisberger got one vote. It was other pity. It's the 50th vote. Is that a joke? That's like Derek Jeter, getting every vote for the hall of fame, except one who is the one. Who is the one bending come back from anything? I mean, I'm like a bad season, right? But it was he, was he injured last year? I don't remember. That's how much I don't pay attention. Well, yeah, he was injured because. That was the whole Myles Garrett Mason Rudolph incident. Oh, I screwed off was, was, was quarterback for awhile. That's right. That's right. How do you, how do you, not that how's that not unanimous for Alex Smith? They should rename the comeback player of the year award for Alex Smith. No. The story behind that. That's what annoys me. Who's the 50th vote out yourself. Coward. W what was it? And then air Roger's got like, he got 46 or whatever. And then Josh Allen got four and then badgering. My home's got like two votes for MVP. Do you agree with the project? I agree with the awards there, Russell. You know, early on the season, we were six, seven weeks in and Russell was looking like the front runner and then you get one vote. I don't know what's happening, but Russell of course came out today the other day and, you know, Said that he needs more protection. I agree. The year they went to the super bowl. They had one of the best offensive lines. We need to give Russell A. Little bit more time back there. Yeah. I can scramble. He can make things happen with his legs. But he shouldn't always have to make things happen in his legs. So let's get Russell's some support and let's get them an MVP award and let's get another super bowl title while we're at it. Yeah. Anyway, it just, it just, yeah. Thoughts on that. And then did you, did you enjoy the super bowl? Yeah. Yeah, I guess. It was historically significant that Kansas went back and couldn't score a touchdown. I mean, I think that was more like, Like two years, they've not scored a touchdown. A passing touchdown. Something like that. Some kind of insane stat that they've had a passing touchdown every week, since like the second week of Patrick Holmes career there in Kansas city. And that's just that's. That's remarkable to me, it's remarkable that the defense was that good. Like Jason peer Paul, with his 2.5 fingers and the Dharma. Mama consu. Like these people put pressure on Patrick all night. And understand the Kansas city offensive line wasn't as bad as good as it was early on in the season. I get that completely. But yeah. And of course, you know, there was a halftime show as well. We need to talk about, cause everybody. There were a lot of people that were like, Whoa, Whoa, what did the weekend, why is the weekend doing this blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And it's like, Just because you haven't heard of someone. Doesn't mean they're not relevant. And I had a friend. Who said. Well, we should get an artist that appeals to all. People and then threw up like country music, artists that I'm thinking. As it's not a field ever. It's not appealing to everybody. That's like more people know who the weekend is, then they know who Eric churches, or at least, you know, that song you might not yet. I've heard that. I mean, That song has been everywhere for you. You got to have your head under a rock to not know that song. And, and, you know, and the thing is like, I've been a weekend fan for years. Like I've been listening for since, you know, house of balloons dropped. So like when he busted out the. The song right before blinding lights, which is house of balloons of samples, Susie Sue, from Susie and the Banshees. I was like, Oh my God, he's doing some old school weekend stuff. So I was like really excited about that. I didn't think his performance was as good as it normally is. When you pay to go see him, like he seemed kind of out of breath a little bit. And still a lot. It's a lot of hustle. Yeah, there was a lot of running around. Apparently his jacket weighed a ton. Two. That's what he was saying. He was like, all those crystals on the jacket weighed like a. Maybe wait, like 35 pounds. It was like a Bulletproof vest. So I thought it could have been better, but still it's the weekend. And I don't think he could do anything wrong. By me. I mean, you look at it. You look at is you look at his track record. I mean, he's had a number one album every time he releases an album. It's it goes to number one since. A beauty behind the madness. The first time Def punk ever had a number one hit. It was with the weekend. They'd been out for years and the first time they ever reached number one, They didn't even do it with get lucky with Pharrell. Like the weekend, you know, got them their first number one, hit. Daft punk. So the disrespect, the weekend like that, I felt, I felt the slider was unwarranted. So. I did like it. But it could have been better, but I did like it. He, he had said a weekend. Famously said he wasn't going to have any guests. Musicians, but he did have Slipknot came out and it was in the hallway with him. With all that, but I was like, wow, is that Corey is Corey Taylor were slipped, not running around the hallways with the weekend, with the, with the face mask on. And it was loud. When would he did that when he did the thing where he's looking around the room, like out here as a meme, Yeah. Sorry. I couldn't be a mile that was not. Here we go. I also, I have. I've also one last thing. That annoys me. Can you email our contacts this time, instead of like getting me to publicly shame. Yeah, that was. I publicly shame a guy and he's like, let those egos a little bit passive aggressive, Greg, you were a little bit passive, aggressive. He was like, let this be a lesson to email your context and let them know when the podcast or live. I correspond with every one of my guests, except Brian would CEO of spring league. That's the only thing that really emails and now, and now Greg Miller of kind of funny. So yes, I will. I'll email, you know, I just. I assume the 87 retweets and all very comments and everything with that, with that. Would have come across, but I, that is, I will take one on the chin for that one. That was my bad. I get publicly shamed. I publicly shamed him for that. Respond. Sort of sort of passive aggressive. It was a little passive aggressive. Yeah. So I'm like reading. Save this, and I understand you don't want to bother people accepted. Paul Sanchez. For some reason, I don't like to bother people. I just put my notes in the Google doc and then every week you show up and it's just like nuggets of gold. So that then you lie down. When you said you go, why. Bicycle that I treat pays. What is this gold talking? It's a guy because it's all, it's all money on here. It's all money. Except I would, yeah, I would say in 27 weeks, my first swing and the miss was that Western media deal. Yeah, that would be really, but I am pretty good with, with a track record here. I might use that are relevant. That was definitely not relevant. I mean, that was like your batting 99.9%. That was the one. Watch tomorrow, they're going to come out and it's going to be like announce whatever with partnership. I went back. I'm glad we talked about it on the podcast. Well, I mean, then again, you know, you'll probably get a message from van or something, so. Time to wrap things up. Again, exhale show.com/review. To leave us a review XFL show.com/merch. To buy some merch. Support your boys support the podcast. We appreciate everything you do for us. And listening to us every week gives us a subscribe. Like us on, on YouTube and subscribe to the YouTube. Of course, we're waiting for the thousand subscriber, Mark. And we're adding up there, I will say. Yeah. And like, if you're the first comment on the YouTube and it's like, I've just posted, it's like seven in the morning. This leap at nice comment. I post these live in real time. Yeah, I know you do automate the thing. And then I go up and I post a YouTube. So I don't need the first comment. Like this title doesn't make sense, incorrect. Like just, Hey. Thanks. Thanks for, thanks for taking the time is making the show. Thanks. Yeah, that's fine. That works too. Can I, can I mention before you interrupt me again, can I mention that we're going to end with an autographed football by Chad Ochocinco? Yeah, sorry. So subscribe to us on YouTube and you could possibly win. An autographed football from shadow. Synco. Yeah, we are, we are adding, we are adding a viewership is up. I'm very excited about that. We've added a bunch of it yet, but yeah, excavation show that com slash YouTube. Thanks. Awesome. Thanks again for joining us. We'll see you next week was some more, probably some fan controlled football news. Maybe some XFL news. We'll be back next week.

XFL Markcast Episode 26 - The XFL is Drinking Age!

I wanted to save myself some time on post-production. I know it's not much, but. It's why I did that. Programmed our theme song. Into the podcast board. Ready? I put the intro itself onto the videos. Means that now. I have a B double music on there. So thank you for that. I'm sure I'll find their way. Okay, well, there's probably the raw file. That I sent to you that has the logo and stuff without the music built into it, that you could possibly still use. At this point in my life, I think will be good. I think we'll manage. You want to start again? Cause we can just. I'm good. I got mine. There's no, there's definitely no edits tonight. I don't sell we're recording later than we normally do. It's been a long week we're I don't normally drink on the podcast, but it is. The accent fell his 21st birthday. This week. And so we're doing the 21 run for the XFL. And so I got my Shiner Bock here will open here. Bruce Prichard podcast. Yeah. I was opening on that podcast where we're doing it. I don't have a drink. I'm sorry. I can't cheers you right now. It's been a long week for me to, you know, just a lot of things going down for us and yeah. You know, we had to do this late at night because. Scheduling conflicts in our weeks were packed with stuff. We're here to bring you another episode of the Mark cast. Yeah, I FCF in Patrick D if you want to do your bubble on the, on the West coast next time, that would be great for us to start scheduling guests more. Good. Good idea. Good idea. I mean, we, you know, They could do it on the West coast and then not promote their appearances on our, on our podcasts. But Hey, that's another thing. The that, that is, that is the elephant in the room. I don't know. Maybe we'll get into that later, but that is. There's. Could be, I just, you know, a little preface, it could be a little snippy this week. I just, in general, it's just been a long week. All this stuff going on. I'm really happy to record now. I know that even though we're recording 7:00 PM Pacific right now on Thursday. Tomorrow morning, there's still going to be breaking XFL news. So it doesn't matter when we record, I know that it's going to be out. We're going to miss it. Something's going to happen at two in the morning. And yeah, sorry. We missed it. We recorded those latest possible, but we missed it. Sorry. Yeah. Got done with work. We just got done with down there where we're, we're doing it. So anyway, thank you for, for making the time. Cool. So you wanted to start off, where do you want to start off with, on the show this week? Because. I, you know, there's not too much happening, but there's some stuff I gotta like. Yeah. A couple of things we had to review come in today. It's stuff like that. That really does. I spend a lot of time on this podcast. Yeah, you do. Yeah. I really appreciate when people, you know, share the podcast like the podcast. And especially our reviews, XFL, Jim, he's a friend of the show. He left a great review today. He does his own kind of, he has his own garage league and he does a bunch of his own picks and stuff, or like, you know, college football and XFL and NFL. And he left us a really good review on Apple podcasts. Listen, I'm a man of culture. Like many of course. I love the XFL. These guys, when they speak and they give their takes, they blow the dang doors off my garage. It's kind of like a metaphor he uses. Something that is usually reserved for me when I run through a car after a night of the party. And so he is basically equating our podcast to him, running a car through after a night of party. And can't recommend these dudes enough. They get some bomb guests. I cannot wait to hear when they, the se the XFL is coming back and kicking everyone in the team. This is a real garage certified podcasts. There's a lot of it. James, it seems an interest. There's a gimmick in there. Jim Jim is Jim like lives the gimmick, but thank you. XFL show that comm slash review. If you're a fan of the XFL TSL. Fan controlled football. I got people messaging me today about CFL coming back again. So just feel free to leave us a review. It really does kind of lift my spirits to get those, especially on the long weeks like this, when there's a lot going on outside of the podcast. So I appreciate it. It would be great if you went out, went over to exfil, showed. Show.com/merch and bought some Mark CASSE merchandise. Make this a profitable venture for us. Yeah, I, I normally would have worn my exhale Marquette sweatshirts, and I did get my WrestleMania. In, in anticipation of the Tampa Bay. Super bowl. I do want to do picks here on the podcast. Super cool pics. But this was from Tampa Bay last year, when they, when they didn't do it, they did it at the performance center, but they w E had made all of the jerseys, you know, already and the chairs and everything marketed. So a guy was selling this new on eBay for like $70. I said, absolutely not. And I got him down. I think I got it for 30 bucks and it came this week. So I'm very excited. This is. It's kind of a rare. It is, you know, and then, and you love your WrestleMania jerseys. He has a collection of all these jerseys folks. Every time we go to one of these events you see, he's never not wearing one of these things. So, yeah. So I did take out the Marquette sweatshirt off right now. That's why it was delayed getting going. We did have one other Jenna left a really great comment on are you do channel XFL, show.com/youtube. We've been getting a lot more banter on there and a lot of comments. I really appreciate that. We haven't, you know, our big episode last week, we'll talk about with Greg Miller. You know, great reception from our listeners. I don't know if, if for many other listeners, but I Jenna said this was a great episode. It was so cute. Him talking about the story, walking in and getting this XFL gear. I'll be cheering for the wild ACEs. But she thinks some of the fan controlled, you know, the baseball rules of social media, that changes feel too much like a video game. We're going to get into all the fan controlled stuff later. It still sounds like fun. I'm hope I'm able to watch it. Maybe they just could have called it fan controlled league, like football addition, and then they could have them like a baseball addition because it's not. You know, it's this new approach or style and changes are going to work, but she doesn't really know if it's, if it's, you know, for everybody that likes football. So I really appreciate it. She said it was the best episode we had yet. And she had wished that that same, it would have been called the Mark castaways and not the things that annoy Paul, but that is not what we landed on with thee. Folks that everybody knows how much these things at the end of the show are annoying. So I think you gotta be at expo show that comp. [Unknown] review and an expo show.com/youtube. If you're listening to the podcast, I love seeing all the comments and the banter and stuff that way on the YouTube channel. So I really appreciate that. Cool. So let's get into the meat of this first and foremost, the big, big, higher than we saw in Houston. Texans hiring pep Hamilton as their quarterback's coach. I'm so glad we devoted five minutes on the podcast last week, the pap doing an interview with the Steelers and like, literally, like, I think I, it was, it was either that night or the next day I, I like Pat was hired by the T by the. Text dense. I have thought that it's just our luck, but it's interesting for them because you know, the Texans might not actually have a quarterback right now. If, if you know, Deshaun Watson is. So that is interesting. What do you think about this? It's a great hire. You, you saw what he did with Justin Herbert. He made them the offensive rookie of the year. I believe he was offensive. [Unknown] I'm pretty sure. Yeah. You know, he he's, he's great with quarterback sees. There who was the guy that, that people were like, Oh, he's always good. As a, as a quarterback's coach. And never as a head coach or an offensive coordinator, I'm trying to think of his name. It'll come to me later on. I'm sure of it, but pep did great with, with Justin Herbert. So whoever the Texans have as their quarterback, cause I don't think Deshaun Watson's coming back. I don't think it's going to happen. So wherever the Texans have as their quarterback, whether it be to have from Miami. Or whoever they draft, when the jets give up like eight years of first round picks for a Deshaun. Whoever that is. We'll we'll. It's interesting to see. What will hit one, he'll be able to do with them. Yeah. And I saw that Herbert one, it was like the Pepsi, Coke zero or something like player that working in a year. Is that I assume, is that the official one or is that, I mean, they brand it as that. I did see that today I'm holding like a trophy. So. That's the official branding, a North Turner who was his, who I was thinking about Norv Turner was the guy that always good as a quarterback's coach. But once he got to that offensive coordinator, head, coach level. Didn't quite work out for him. So let's, let's, let's look for the best. For a pep with whoever he has to work with in Houston. Yeah. It's just a lot of moving parts there, you know, like, so, you know, with Deshaun, I mean, he seems really unhappy about it. I've even seen my, my favorite thing now is they're showing a Deshaun Watson showing up for training camp, like James harden, and they have like fat. Defied him. Try to like James harden lost. Yeah, we're not fat shaming chance fired. My other question. It's hard for me to call James harden. My boy, because he plays for my Brooklyn nets, but he went to that crappy Arizona state school. So it's hard for me to like, I'm like. Split in the middle on James still. A question for you all while we're on the quarterback situation with the Texans, who do you think got the better trade deal with Matthew Stafford at going to the Rams or. At the million, our first round picks and Jared Goff on the side, going to the Alliance. It depends on who the lion's pit. I don't think we can make a determination short term. The Rams win this in the short term. Matthew Stanford's gonna have access to weapons that he's never had access to is going to have an offensive line that he's never had Detroit. They're going to do great things in LA. But Stafford is how old is staffer now? What is it? He's in his thirties now. Right? Getting there. Nine years. So what I think. 33 32. He's getting up there. So if Stafford is able to. Help the Rams. I would say, I would honestly say if Stafford doesn't get the Rams that leads to the NFC championship game next year. Then this is, this is going to go Detroit's way, depending on who the Detroit lions pick up in the draft with all the picks they got from the ramps. Yeah. He's 32. So I was, I was close. You were close. So you figure he's got maybe. Five six years left in, in his. Yeah. I think we're going to be able to determine where this goes and who got the better end of the deal. Five years from now. My favorite thing right now is Jared Goff be incented. Detroit is like Jon snow. I know you're not a game of Thrones fan. But anyway, it's like John Snow being sent to the wall, you know? I guess I'm being sent to the North coast, you know, Jon snow. Like, you know, he lived in the North, but it wasn't like the cold cold North. And then he got exiled. To be a watcher on the wall and it was, but so he shows up and it's like, yeah, It's just like a barren Tundra and like nothing going on. And that's like, Jared Goff going to Detroit, right? I mean, he was living in sunny LA, right? He had, did he have a good pad in LA? Oh, yeah. Sorry, you're talking to James with her name was Rosario was falling asleep. He had a great path. You had an amazing house. He's getting married or is he like a Playboy? I think he's married. Okay. I don't like, I like golf, but something seems off about him. I don't know. I think, I think golf was just tired of, of, you know, I think you're just tired of being here. I mean, who would want, who would be getting tired of being in LA? I don't know. I mean, he's a California kid and depending on, you know, if, if he's 26, If the lions put some weapons around him. You know, in five years of the lions could be a contender, but they could try them back to LA again. Next guy. Who would've thought. Yeah, I just was curious about that. I w yeah, so just showing lots and we'll see pep Hamilton. It is interesting though. How about how cold we were about that, you know, talking about him, going to the Steelers. And then he was like, the second we hit record, you know, stop. Yeah. Golf apparently has an enzyme deficiency that doesn't allow his body to break down proteins among the difficulties. It creates an inability to process red meat. I never knew. He seems a little soft. I'm not soft, like Charmin, but soft. I just think it would like, you know, you get to a point where you're just like, I can't do anything else here. They don't want me here. The Wolford thing, maybe kind of put a bad taste in his mouth. Who knows maybe, maybe a fresh, fresh start in Detroit. Even if they don't have the weapons around him, maybe he'll find a way to win in Detroit, go eight and eight. You really don't have to deal with too many teams. Like the bear SOC the Vikings are always terrible. We'll know that always terrible, but as of late. I'm all you got to really do is deal with the Packers. You, when one of the two games against them and you're in the hunt for a playoff spot in the North. Correct. It was on good morning football. He does seem like the nicest gentleman than the world. I don't the people in Minnesota. Don't think he's nice at all. He's been stealing their money for years. He can gritty though. That that was the best thing. There's nothing like seeing a light guy gritty. Oh, yeah. And of course his time in Washington where he's like, Oh yeah, you liked that. I remember that, that meme for. For years and years and years. He and yeah, he and. Philip Rivers like the no Cassie and the no cussing quarterbacks. Heck. Yeah. No cussing in a tense quarterbacks. So speaking of quarterbacks, Matt rule says there's nothing to add. Regarding the Panthers quarterback situation. Is that what Shena quickest thing? Just update, you know, again, we keep an eye on the Panthers just cause our boy PJ and it. You know, they got the eight. C or eighth pick coming up in the draft and he just met rule. I had nothing else to add. It just seems like, yeah, I don't know if Teddy is going to be along for the world. They're going to maybe bring in some wine and get the. You know, the second year out of the Teddy and then maybe move to someone else. Possibly possibly they're paying them 20 million. So they might as well just stick the course right now, draft maybe their future. It doesn't seem like they're going to go with Greer or a PJ longterm after this. Maybe draft their future with the eighth pick and then go from there. So I just don't know what's next for PJ. I just don't know what you do. We're sports in general, right? If you're like that kind of, you know, you're not a young player anymore or a quarterback, and then, you know, obviously you're not getting a lot of starts. Like I just, don't what what's next for you? Do you go into PR do you go into, you know, Management. Oh, yeah. Maybe coaching. I don't know. So moving on another XFL, former XFL or Taylor Heineken apparently has impressed a former Washington quarterback, Joe Theismann, maybe that they should just the Washington football team or wherever they're. Maybe if they're get a nickname next year, the Washington football team should roll them out. That's what Joe Theismann saying, van, the man said this to me today and we had the other one they bought the exact two are, are, are impressed with both of them, but. Van seems to think that his thing too, to me today was if divestment is high on him, he's maybe got the ear of Ron Rivera a little bit to give him a shot. And I don't think it's a non-zero chance that we see Taylor at least get, you know, I in training camp, get a little play time there with that option. It's going to be interesting to see who comes out in the preseason as the starter. Cause we're definitely, we're definitely gonna have a preseason this time around. We didn't have one last year because of COVID we're going to have one this year more than likely because we saw the injuries. We know that they're going to need the preseason games. So if Taylor comes out game one, as the preseason starter and then game two, There's a good chance. Taylor's going to start on opening day for the Washington football team. It'll be interesting to see if they listen to Theismann or not. It's interesting. It just seems like he's got a lot of fans there. I mean, that's the dream, right? We still maintain, you know, that was like the Rudy situation coming off. The band's playing against Brady. Yeah, he still gets mentioned. I know part of it's a joke, but you know, when you talk about like Brady making it to the Superbowl, like, okay, he beat Aaron Rodgers, he beat drew Brees. You beat Taylor, ham, Turkey, you know, don't or a high Niki. Sorry, I don't, I don't forget that, that, that, you know, they really have had a real shot at that and it was really close, close game. And you, and you take this into account because Theismann suffered an injury. That that was very similar to what Alex Smith's suffered. And I believe Kyle islands suffered the same kind of similar energy injury. But Alex Smith's was way more. Alex Smith might've died. That's how bad his, his leg injury was. And Theismann had a very similar injury. So that first five has been not to like gravitate toward Alex Smith, the guy who is. Had the very same injury that he had ended his career that says something for Taylor Heineken. In my opinion, that that Theismann wouldn't go toward that emotional feel-good pic in picking the guy that that was very similar to him at the end of the career. And that's another thing about Alex Smith. You know, he's been at this for awhile. I was working in salt Lake in 2002, 2003. When Alex Smith was in college, there. Alex, Smith's not a spring chicken. He's he's going to be wrapping it up soon. So. This is, this is pretty much, this is a stamp of approval. This is a big time stamp of approval. Yeah. Smith said, you know, he still hasn't made a decision for next year. He doesn't know, but you just, you've always wondered since he came back. You know, I know that he got, you know, the surgically repaired leg, he's got that brace and everything, but it's just, yeah. How much of a future is there? I mean, I know it's great. He came back, he got to come back player of the year award, but. You know that that doesn't make you a phenomenal quarterback. Right? I mean, just being able to come back, being able to persevere and get through all of that, that doesn't necessarily mean like, okay, we need right. I mean, it's, it's not those things aren't connected. I think Alex Smith is, is not a hall of Famer. But he is a good quarterback. I do believe in Alex Smith. I think he's a great quarterback. I don't think he's a hall of Famer, but I think he's a great quarterback in his, his story about how he came back from this injury. Is just inspiring. It really is when you, when you like. Go through. And I think they've done a documentary about him coming back. It was an, it was an inspiring story, but I just don't see Alex Smith being good enough too. Possibly be in contention for the starting role. I don't know. Would you rather watch the Alex Smith movie or the tailor Heineken movie? If they had to make one first. That's a good question. It's a very good question. Let's get back to that. And then I'll, I'll think it over while we're going through the rest of them. But, you know, cause life-threatening injury, you know, the buyer. He had the infection, all that coming back, 17 surgeries. And then you have the real life, Rudy. Coming on the field playing Tom Ray. I mean, I I've said this before it gets shot and acid in there. We got a, we got. Combine the two movies into one and just make it all feel good. And like for both stories. But Tyler. Hi Niki. He has the leg injury and then he comes back and then. They could do that. Hollywood's Hollywood's crazy. They can do that. Why not. The idea. I was still, I still working, working our webs to get Taylor on the show. That would be, that would be my big get right now. That would be the winner if we're able to pull that off. So. Interesting. Executives are also impressed with both of them. According to this article for a month. NBC sports. Taylor and Alex Smith. Yeah. Yeah. New general manager, Martin Mayhew, and new executive vice-president football player personnel. Marty Hurney. Seem very intro. Very very impressed with both quarterbacks. So it's gonna be interesting to see how this plays out. Of course, we're going to be rooting for a hide, a key to get the starting gig. But you never know. Ron Rivera posted, I think late last week officially cancer-free so congratulations. Surround our bear as well. So winning all around for the Washington football team. Just not, especially, I got to say this cause Ron Rivera is a fellow Puerto Rican. So definitely glad. Also on that front that he did beat cancer because. I like to see my fellow Puerto Rican's win, win in life. I'm going there. Yeah, why not? So. Go on talking about this football, this team nine football. Yeah, let's talk about this. What? I didn't even know existed. So this, I'm just telling you this right now. If you guys, if you're, I'm not going to buy this, but if you're, if you're a merged person DM me on Twitter, XFL, Mark, I'll send you the link to this. It's basically, you know, all the XFL teams this year. Like the dragons. Yeah, like they have their ball, right? Like, you know that the green and whatever, and like the roughnecks and all this other stuff. So the team nine ball or the team nine, that was like the backup team there where they basically, it was supposed to be like, if someone got hurt, all these other players were conditioned with all the new rules and everything. So you get like transition someone in right away. They have their own ball. And it wasn't branded. It was just like an XFL. It was just like the blue, the XFL color blue. But he was basically like a league ball that wasn't a team ball. And then when the league went bankrupt, they like took all these and they, they, they all went away, but barely the company that's selling them, that is the company that made them. So they are like official. I was talking with van about it. Of course. Bam. He's the merge guy. Had worked a lot with the league before about trying to get some other merchandising deals and stuff going. But, but they're, they're legit. They're official. They look really cool. I think it's 125. So it's like the price of a ball, but I know a lot of people want the game balls. They're sold out a lot. They have like, they're the mini replica ones. I think still a couple of them are available. But if you want a league ball, That's that's like not branded at all. It's just accept pallets, official one with all the grips and all that stuff. It's semi DM. I'll send you the link, but it's cool. It definitely was. I saw it. I was like, wow, that's interesting. That's, that'd be an interesting, kind of a niche. Memorabilia that have in your collection and you know, it'd be a conversation starter for sure. I'm not going to buy it. Don't worry, but I already, I have my ball. I have my ball. I don't need another one. I have a Dragon's fault, but it is interesting if you wanted the ball as he could go get that. Moving on to more acts of L news. Of course, the all over luck McMahon saga continues. The dueling lawsuits. I'm reading more of this here, where they're talking about how apparently. Luck. Used his personal use, the XML issued iPhone for personal matters and they relocated to Indiana. I didn't know. This was a thing that he did. Which was far away from the, the headquarters in Connecticut. And he did this when the pandemic struck. Yeah. That was a big guy. Sticking point that Vince has always said, it's a, he thought back in like March and April, you know, during all of that, that luck wasn't there. And Vince is a, you know, very much values, loyalty, and the team and WWE and yo it's rider died, dammit you're with us. And that they're all over. He felt like all of her kind of fled, but you know, would make sense, right? Like all of her wanting to get home to his family. I mean, You definitely get. I say I side with all of her more on that. Let's say you well, you know, you have to realize you hear stories from like Bruce Prichard and Jim cornet. And Vince Russo about how intense Vince is when it comes to having people around him. When it comes to WB matters, like he wants you in Stanford. If you're, if you're a lowly writer, he wants to be able to have you there at any time three in the morning, he's going to call you. He's going to bother you about something. These are all stories we've known for years. And knowing how much, how passionate he was about the XFL. And I, I dare say this. I'm not sure. I can't say this definitively. But the optics would appear as though Vince cared more about the XFL the last year than he did WWE. Is that a fair assumption to make. So if, if that were the case in a hypothetical situation, that he cared more about the XFL. It would be a bad. Sign. For all of her just to go, I'm gonna go back to Indiana and be with my family during pelvic COVID. It would be a bad sign to events, not necessarily a bad sign to all of us that think, well, he wants to be around his family, like you pointed out, but that seems to be kind of an issue that Vince is taking. Is that. He feels feels all of our luck. Just win. Flew the coop. Yeah, this would always would kill me so much about this and Vince shuttering, the league so quick. Excuse me, I'm going to burp her and all that kind of stuff is. You know, this really was his last gung ho at this league, you know, we're going to talk here. It's the 21st birthday and the XFL this week, you know, they were, they were announced. And then the game was a year later. So the game played, you know, 20 years ago, the league was announced a year before that. But yeah, the fact that. You know, it. He put all this money and time that this was this last, that, you know, it was his one failure. And they always said that NBC era, it was at ESPN. Did like the 30 for 30 on the extra fell failure. And that was really what, like ticked Vince off. It was like, all right, damn it. I'm going to come back. I'm going to do this again. You have to prove because there's nothing in his life that Vince wasn't successful. I write, you know, took over his dad's business. You know, people that don't know. Vince's dad. Vincent. You know, senior. W was in the wrestling. Wrestling back then used to be way more territorial. So you would have like the Northwest and the Northeast and the South in Florida, that was a thing. And then Vince came in and it. Basically expanded and took over all of that in turn. You know, what is now that Debbie, Debbie eat, you know, turned it from this regional thing where it was just these local shows into this national and now international. It's explicitly, the point is men's has never failed at anything except the, except the XFL. And so the fact that he went all in again, You know, two years ago, and then now. I just will never understand why he pulled the plug so quick. Neither Rolando. I think he should have stayed around. There's plenty. There was plenty of money to be. There was plenty of money to go back into it and stay into it. That's a good, it's going to be a good question that I think that we'll never have answered. So. Former Tampa Bay O C offense coordinator for the Vipers. Jamie Elizondo has been named the head coach for Edmonton football team. Up North in the. Canadian football league. Yeah. Good for him. It's always good to see former XFL guys, you know, pep Hamilton. We decided that he's going up to the CFL. We're going to be doing. CFL coverage here. I would imagine, depending on how the news goes, we'll get into talking about XFL timeline stuff again. But yeah. Good for him going to be a head coach. I would imagine that would be a jump to go from an XFL. You know, be considered that jumped to go there. At CFL head coaching gig. It's a big jump. I mean the CFL, but has been around for years. It's probably arguably arguably the second longest football team. Second longest football league. Operational in North America. So it's, I think. And I think it's, it's something to definitely be. Congratulated on. And as you mentioned, numerous times, It is the 21st birthday. The original accident. So I can now have a drink. Are you drinking still or did you slow down a little bit? I got my, my Shiner. That was always the thing. That was the big complaint. You know, Vince announced it. I believe February 2nd, 2000. And it was February 3rd, 2001. They play the first game. And they always, people always thought that that one-year turnaround was way too quick to try to get the players in and the teams and the practice and all that stuff. And so then when Vince came back in, you know, Nine year, 2019, you know, it's okay. I was going to be coming back. Or I guess it would be 18 to 20, 20. My years are always screwed up. And then, you know, be able to, okay, good. They're going to give him two years. We're going to have all this time, whatever. Well now, I know last week we talked on the podcast. Okay. Timelines, don't matter. You know, they did it last year. They did this year. We are now very much at a year out from the XFL stuff. And I don't want to be the guys that are boohooing and I'm talking timelines all the time. But the fact that we still it's Thursday night now, you know, we're at super bowl and then football kind of goes away and then we have fan controlled football, but football kind of goes away after the super bowl. What do you think that we still don't have news at all? I think that. Well, I think that there's a definite issue with the logos that's going on with roughnecks logos, from the Patriots and the Oilers issues. I think that's kind of being squared away. That's one thing they got going on. They still haven't filled that position to my knowledge that we saw the other day that. The chief of football operations or whatever it was called. That's another thing that I don't think they filled. So maybe those two things together, or the reason why it's not going. I couldn't speculate. I'd love to find out. Maybe we, maybe there's some kind of person we can contact. Maybe you have a contact. That you can reach out and maybe get some answers on that. It did. Yeah, I just, I know people are at where Zach, one of our listeners, we are messaging today. Again. People are getting really worried. They're getting really worried. You know, a couple of weeks ago, I said, don't worry about that. Then another week goes by another week, goes by. At some point we are, you know, presumably a year out and it is time to be concerned. I think it's, I think also we need to take something else into account that there's a stupid pandemic. That's still going on. Because people don't want to wear masks. That's thankful. So with that being said, we're going to take a quick break dip into our commercial. Commercial situation with our distributor. We write back with a fan controlled football news and a little bit of spring, spring league. We got spring Lake. We'll be right back. I don't touch the camera anymore cause I don't want to blur it. You complained about blurring it last time. So I don't want to blur it now. Otto exposed step a little bit. You look at I'm an Ivan edit that we'll see. We'll see how we do. At the end of the day, I might just leave all that in this role, because you got the ads for the audio. I might, viewers of the YouTube video will now have freed, was motivated enough to add up the, the stinger in between the ad segments tonight. You're not motivated. It doesn't matter to me. You do whatever you want to do. You don't work for me. I don't work for you. That's why you're all here. There we go. Brian Scott trying out with the Colts. Good. This is, this is big. This is good that we got a couple of TSL things here. You know, I emailed Brian this week. I said, Love some news right now. So I didn't hear back. I presume that things going on right now. Brian Scott on his Instagram. I have this snowy Plains of Indianapolis. Where did the Colts? Indianapolis, Indiana. Yes. And yeah, and yeah, I messaged him on. We talked on Twitter. He said, things are going well, there, he's still there. He says it's been a long trial process, but Godspeed for Brian Scott. I know that, you know, we obviously a friend of the show here has been on the show MVP of the spring league last year. And. I think that would be great, Indianapolis. It needs a, I don't, I don't think he's going to like start next year for the Colts. They could use a solid backup. I'm just saying. Yeah. Yeah. Philip Rivers is done, you know, it will. Now there, I believe still. Just call me presents under contract. I don't know. Cough, but yeah, I mean, it's not one of the, I mean, I'm trying to be realistic here, right? Is Brian Scott going to start? You know, in, in August, September for the call, it's probably not, like you said, I think it'd be a good gig for him to get in there and to get his feet into the league. I certainly think he deserves it. I'm just trying to be realistic about expectations. I mean, we are the Mark CASSE, but I don't want to be like, you don't want to be. You'll feel forever. It's like, we're going crazy. But also a, another TSL quarterback call McDonald. He played for the Congress of the spring league. He's being signed to the Arizona Cardinals. This is big. This is big. This is the first official spring league NFL signing. This year. We've had a bunch of guys jumped to the spring. To the CFL. We've had some guys go to the fan controlled football. This is the first TSL, the NFL. I believe they sat on their, on the tweet. I don't think, I hope I'm not misquoting that, but I believe that is call McDonald came in late to the spring league. I was asking Vance all football scouting report on Twitter about it. He played like week three, didn't do a lot, but he was, this is a note. So he was a quarterback that got brought in. Remember Justin McMillan, the guy that got in the fight. And then that coach. Is now in fan controlled football. No. I, they brought in call McDonald's to kind of replace Justin Macmillan. So it's all connected. All connected. It's all connected. The spring league, a spring league. Showdown fight, whatever the episode we have, those are good ones. Yeah. The adjusted. That's ridiculous. Quarterback for a, for a professional football team. Threw a punch out a coach of the opposing team on sidelines. It is as a wild. That was a wild moment. What a, what a moment. A couple more spring league signings, go into the CFL Deshawn Amos sign with a stamp Peters and TJ Rami. Has signed with the BC lions. More a spring league is going to the CFL. You gotta love the username on that one. Got the juice. Three, got the juice. Where you got the juice for a yeah. But no, but you know, spring league, I guess we're waiting for news coming back about that too, because it where's it getting to that timeline. Why would imagine in the, in the March, April. I would, I would expect to see another bubble season. Hopefully. Awesome. Let's move on to the fan controlled football. We don't have to take a break quite yet. We're not going to be an outbreak after like three minutes here for our audio podcast listeners. I also let's go right back into fan controlled football. Where's your Jersey. No one's mentioned this yet. I just wanted to say this. They leak starts next week. The draft is on the 10th, the first games on the 13th. We were told when we ordered the jerseys, they would be coming before the kickoff. So I, I'm not saying that anything's arrived yet. I'm just saying I'm waiting for my Jersey. I'll be expecting the ah, You know, Our confirmation shipping email at some point, but I got my wild ACEs one come in and they're still adding that's the other thing too, we'll get into. They're still adding team owners. So it. It feels a little, I don't want to say scattered, but it feels a little scattered. It feels like they're just trying to gather, like you're constantly gathering. There there's so much. And, and, and this would be my, my one critique and nobody, it clearly at the lead cares what we think, but we're not. As someone that, you know, we have covered the league now for, I don't know that the better. Two and a half months. Yeah. Three two, three months. I am someone that covers this, you know, as professionally as I can as a part-time thing. Y you know, I'm self-employed and I like can't keep track of stuff all the time. They have all these Twitch shows coming in. Like when the league started, they're going to do like a Monday thing and the Tuesday thing and the Wednesday thing. You know, the games are Saturday. I'm like, who is watching. All of this stuff. I, I don't know if there's an audience right now. I don't know, that's what I'm saying. And like, it's just, it's so much in trying to keep track that over saturation. It feels like, and it feels like, you know, people want to know about the football. They want to know about the players. I want to talk about this man's out thing too. They did this whole video about it when we get to it. But like, I think people will be really happy with just a 62nd video on Twitter about, Hey, here's Billy Bob, and he's a wide receiver and this is his little tidbit. Okay. Vote for him next week. And the thing. Here is here's Jake. He's also great. He, you know, like, You know, we see these like we're live streaming, the practices that looks terrible. I'm not watching that. I'm not someone, maybe that's a big football junkie is watching the practice cams everyday. I'd probably watch that. Vince could watch that. And yeah, I'm like, right. So, so for Vince, maybe that is, but I'm saying like, if someone that tries to cover this, look at the broad scope, you know, okay. Who's marketing, who is the market for this? I just don't know, like. We're doing that, but then we're also like not showing the players at all. Like, it's a very weird, it's a very weird dynamic. I'm I'm intrigued with the saturation of content. A little bit, I'm not gonna watch it. I'm not going to watch it like this. I'm covering this thing and I'm not watching it. It's a lot. It's a, it's a lot. They have, you know, the app came out, I mess around with the app last night, you know, it's, it's. I don't know who has the time to like, go do all this and we're voting, you know, I think I went on, I, you know, we're trying, I'm trying not to get too invested in like the voting and stuff. Cause you're trying to cover it. But I think I've even missed like some of the votes along the way. And I'm covering this. Like we're covering this and I'm missing. Like, I couldn't even tell you like what the vote is right now for like, what's the catch or what's going on. It's a lot of things, but it doesn't seem like it's anything that's that's concrete is a very odd dynamic. You talked about them bringing more owners in and Ronnie Singh is apparently joined the. Zappers owner groups. Owner's group. And you say people aren't happy. Yeah, people are not happy about this. I am I, am I missing something? So do you know Ronnie Singh? I don't. Okay. So Ronnie's seeing works for two K games. And people aren't happy because they think that UK games have ruined a lot of the game. So, do you know why? Like that's what I figured you would know a little bit more about this. I did, I did. I did not play the w w last two K that came out with, but I know they were refunding people for it because it was terrible. The two K games was only the two. Two K games system situation was only successful when they had that. Ukes. Studio working with them on these games. Apparently UK's backed away last year. So the two K game they put out for WW was terrible. Was not playable. I can tell you from experience buying the year before. It was BS like there's a storyline mode and I won't get too detailed about it, but you could win a first few fights. And then all of a sudden, you, you would spoiler alert the game's been out for three years, but you would fight you're old. Booker you'd put them out on a mask and you'd fight him. And you have to do stupid things with stupid times. You could beat this guy down for like 15 minutes and he'd be in the red and the minute you let him get one punch in all of a sudden the momentum went onto a side. He could get like seven kicks in and beat you. And it was, it was, I completely stopped playing that storyline mode. I actually stopped playing the game after a month. So I can see why people aren't happy about someone from two K games who the studio hasn't really put out much. In terms of good content game-wise lately. Not being happy about this. Makes sense. Yeah. A lot of the events are showing this to me. A lot of like the Instagram comments, a lot of Twitter comments were like, yo, go fix your games before you come in here. It's, it's interesting because that's the thing you're bringing in these owners and these celebrities that are, you know, in the media spotlight. And you're asking people to blog on things in sport teams in. You know, there might be someone that people don't like, right. You know, maybe, maybe Marshawn Lynch goes out tomorrow and heaven forbid does something or whatever. I mean, these people are associated. It's an interesting dynamic, but yeah, people were not happy with, with Ronnie scene coming on. Also apparently the wild ACEs are bringing in another owner. I'm sure it will be announced by the time that this episode drops. It'll cut me up. Come on at midnight tonight. That is also interesting too to me. And I don't know. Like Greg commented on and on Twitter at Greg Miller, one of the owners CE was like, Oh, I don't know. Like, you know, are they in all of that? Why are we still bringing in the owners now we're a week away. I have no idea. Themes. Where, what do you think? So I put these investor in numbers. They probably gone up slightly today. Just the, these were, you know, a few hours old. The investors. I went through all the investor pages for all the teams, because remember, you can invest in the fingers pro football teams. [unknown]. So I'll, I guess I'll read the numbers and then give me your thoughts. The beast currently have like 389 investors. They've raised almost $171,000 glacier Boyz 125 for almost 70,000 while ACEs 137 for 75,000. And then this opera is 108 investor is four 66,000. Well, the things that I can determine here are. The three other teams, you add their numbers up. And they still don't have as many investors as the beast. That's an interesting stat right there. Not her mother financials. I'm talking about the numbers, actual investors, I think for broad, I mean, it's pretty close. I mean, you could put all three of them. I mean, it's, it's a pretty closed triple for the rest of them to them. I think the three combined my financially beat him by about 10 grand. Oh, but I'm th that is to say that means. Eh, the bees have here's this league built on social media, all of that, the bees they're fine. Social media. They post a little bit. I think the names of Marshawn Lynch. I think the names of Renee Montgomery, I think the name of Miro. Mike Tyson is no longer with that. Some of the articles that are covering this league. Thinking about maybe the bigger media, this covering the sleep, but it's not as invested as we are. They still talking about Mike Tyson being on there, but it is interesting that this one team terrible logo, terrible jerseys, terrible social media presence. They have almost 400 investors in 171,000. And I mean, 125 people are being completely fleeced by the glacier. Terrible. Terrible. They, I will say whoever ones, Godspeed, whoever runs the glacier way, social media. For all I know it's Patrick DS running all the different social media accounts, co co founder of the league. Whoever runs the glacier Boyz social media. They, and I have gone back and forth and today. He goes, ah, I tweeted, like I hope the wild days has got a flat tire on the way to work or something. And I retweet. Sick burn, bro. But then I go, I go, you can't just go around being rude to people all the time. And then they retreated back at me, the Spiderman GIF. Where it's like, we're both doing the same thing. Cause I'm just as guilty of being rude. That's Tisha. Anyway, but they've raised, you know, almost $300,000, right? If I'm, if I'm doing the math right on the fantasy football. That's not too shabby. Not too shabby at all. Hmm. So talking about Johnny Manzell. He is mildly in the bubble as a February 1st. Johnny welcome to the bubble. Welcome to the show. This is kind of the meat of what I want to talk about with fan control set tonight. What do you think about man sell finally, coming into the bubble? We are, I think three weeks of the bubble now, two weeks of practice. And now he is coming in for the last two weeks. He's still in quarantine. I would imagine right now having come in on Monday. What do you think about him coming in now with a week ago? I have concerns about chemistry. I have concerns that other players are going to resent him. For showing up whenever he wants to. I have concerns about this. I have concerns that the league is building him as the one and only star that they'll have. I have concerns. I have concerns. They released the player, our rankings. Let me get out of spins. L's number one. Men's. I was number one for the QBs. Which is interesting because he hasn't played at all, you know, journey, a journey friend of the show. Journey Erdman is number four. What's interesting to me is, was at Bleacher. Hang on. Let me get this video up here. Bleacher Bleacher report posted this whole video. It's got 72,000 views on theirs and it's being retweeted. The bites. Basically about a month ago, Johnny Manzell went down to Arizona with Ray Austin and did this whole like social media shoot and all this, we saw photos of it. And have you watch this video? It's like, man sat like, man, it feels good to be back. And like, you know, I like it and hit, I want to get hit. It feels good to do all this stuff. And it's it's, you know, it's a very cinematic video, whoever shot it doesn't know how to color grade the footage. It's you know? Oh yeah. On our boat. Yeah, professional videographers into this frustrating when people shoot things in a format and they don't know how to properly edit them for broadcast. But, but, but it's a really good video. It's talking about you. And it's all coming back and he's driving down the road and there with him and he's on the field and he's talking to guys and all this. And, and, and even one of the honors goes, Oh yeah. You know, when I give them a month in the bubble, I'm really gonna, you know, really going to whip him into shape and like, well, first I've, you're going to get him for a week in the bubble. And second off there is I, I tweeted all. Vince and fingernail football news. I said, how many players are currently signed the fan controlled football? And they said, well, probably 110 to 120. Why are there not 110 or 120 other videos of all these guys like this? That's what I'm saying. If you're going to do all that work for Manzell. Johnny is the star. They're letting you know. It's Johnny and then everyone else. That's I mean, We've got to be critical of this. Yeah, we do. Sorry. So that's what, that's the message that it's sending to me. If you walk in the first week and throw us five picks because he hasn't played in in two years. That'd be interesting. That'd be funny. There, I believe they're playing, they're playing the beast the first week. And so Vince had said, we need to make sure the bees have the best defense that first week. To really slam it down. Johnny throat. Okay. I just, you know, I like to be an advocate for the players and a lot of people that cover the league. You know, all this other stuff's going on, they want to be advocates for the players. And I really wish a lot of these other guys, they were sweating every day down there right now, you know, in Atlanta, in the bubble. Doing the staff line. You know, doing the stuff on Twitter and doing this stuff on Twitch and stand in the hotel rooms and doing all this stuff, doing the workouts in the hotel rooms, in quarantine, all this stuff. I just wish that they were getting that same publicity that Johnny got. With, you know, with like the Bleacher report and with all this other stuff, it's just, I just wish that it's the same thing with, I was talking to Dorothy about this with like Debbie, Debbie and Vincent man. Let's go back to the stars again, let's bring back the undertaker. Let's bring back whoever and. You could build, you could have built 15, 20 guys in the time in the last three weeks. If you want it to look at journey, journey, journey is huge. We found him on the show. He's been on a lot of shows, a slick nix and another one. I think he wants to come on the show. He's a big kind of Marshawn looking guide at the big back flip. You know, we've got a glimmer of a couple of these guys, but you really could have built them up if you want to do, as opposed to building a new sets for twit shows. I don't know. People are gonna watch. I'm I'm confused. I'm be funneled. I just wish I. I wish I could process this fast enough. I D I don't know what's going on. It feels like. There's things being like they're, they're trying to. You know, the old adage that WCW was run by a television company, putting on a wrestling show as opposed to WMU being a wrestling show, putting on DV program. You know how they said that about the failure of WCW, as opposed to WWE. This seems like it's a Twitch. Gaming channel. Trying to put on a football league as opposed to a football league. Adding. Shows if that makes sense. Yep. The other interesting thing is they announced this week, Josh Davis ran with it that. After this first season, the, the plan is to have eight teams. And they're going to go three months on three months off, three months on three months off. And. If you think about that, which first off I would, again, I would get through a season. I know, I know we have a million ideas. I know, I know. I know it's like these millennials and we're a little bit older. Like I know it's like I got a million ideas. Like we're going with it. I would get through a season. But that, that would put their next season. In August. How many, how many players have quality? Are are going to be available to play in August in a normal football calendar. Aren't they all going to try to get to the NFL to, yes, that's the point? I had a whole conversation with someone about this that it's like, you don't, you don't exist in a vacuum. I know it's a bubble season right now. I know there's nothing going on. Again, we've talked about this. If XFL was going on. You know, we would still be covering this. In a much more, you know, minority part, but, but you don't exist in a vacuum and you need to understand that these players are trying to get to other things. And even this. You know, The pay for some of these games, you know, what, what we've seen reported? I don't know if it's exact, but it's not the most money in the world to be getting played a paid to play football games. If you're not paying a plane for the money. And you're playing for the tape, but that these games don't resemble what a football game would look like. I don't know what the benefit is, a plane in this league because you're not going to be playing in fingernail football for our, you know, I'm going to play it for three months and I'm going to be off and I'm going to be back again. Like that's not going to get you three year, plain, plain, six months, a finger to football. I agree. All right. This is weird. Even, you know, even if it was like the XFL, I could have a nine month or an eight month, a year job. Right. And I can, you know, take off. Okay. I'm going to go in December. I'm going to go December, January. You know, whatever, and then go back again, but there's three months on three months off, you can't even do that with this. You don't even get that benefit of like, okay, why. How could you even have a part-time job? To help supplement no one, no one. I ha I have to break the news to fan controlled football here. None of your players. Are going to forego a chance to try out for an NFL team to stick around for your league. I'm sorry. They're not. That's just, that's the truth. Do you think that they would, do you think they would do the over the XFL? I mean, I'm not trying to be a Mark for the XFL. I mean, I'm generally asking that question. I think they would pick the XFL or Frank control football. I I'm, I'm not trying to be a Mark either, but I would pick. The XFL. Has more of a following. It has more exposure. It has more proof of concept in terms of turning players into NFL caliber players. The XFL is more football then. The rules that fan controlled football has laid down. If you were going to, if you want, if your goal is to be an NFL player. Are you going to want? To attach yourself to a league that is more like the NFL to show the NFL you're ready. Or would you ditch that idea to go play for this? Fan controlled football league. Which is not as, not nearly as similar to the NFL is exa pellets. That's obvious. Yeah, that's always, my thing is. I believed in this league, when I thought that it would resemble more of what football is. And again, we're gonna, you know, we're watching it. It's fine. You know, people if tuned out, if you're not into the finger told stuff at this point, but. You know, I just, I want these players that are really trying, they're, they're really down there that are taking months away from their family that are doing all these things. I just want them to have something to show for it after this. And I'm still afraid that this like, Oh, and then. How do you show tape to someone? What was like the third down? And we were ready to go. And then, well, the social media have on this power up and so they got an extra time out and then they came in and then I had a buzzer blocker and then they took me out of the game and then I had to play wide receiver and the, my Ola. Like I don't, I don't know how that, how that translates to what these players ultimately want from this, which is to play. Not that fan control isn't professional football, but to play other forms of professional football. I don't know either. That's the, you bring them all valid points. How, how do you do, how do you, how do you present a tape of highlights from this. Gimmicky league. Let's be, let's be honest. It's a gimmicky league. There's a lot of gimmicks here. I don't know how you present this as. Hey, look, I can play in the NFL. Look at this, look at this. Moment where I got flipped from defensive back to wide receiver, and I was able to catch a ball. Luckily, surprisingly. Yeah, I th I think it was there and we'll see, we'll see how this goes. I think, I think we were there. Yep. Coaches are in the bubble for factual football, only one coach on each position. I mean, I'm reading. Yeah. So, this is interesting that it came out today. Andrew, with it's the XFL fan podcast, he was tweeting that somehow they're going to have coaches for. During the games, because that was the big concern. Like we had chase Baker on, you know, he's aligned coach. Well, how, when you have, you know, two different games going on or, or you have one align coach and you have two different teams playing. Who's going to be managing these positions. During the game to make sure everybody's on the same page. I don't know about head coach. But, I mean, do we have, do we have head coaches? We should. Yeah. So we have John Jenkins. He's the echo is director of player personnel, but that's, I had coach. One head coach. Well, This is the question. This is the question to be like, you know, so like the first game is wild ACEs versus guys, your boys. You know, who is doing the head coaching for the other team? I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. Their their volume right now. And what the catch is. I think that's, that's the latest of vote on here. If a ball hits the ground or not, when it's a, when it's fielded. And then the last thing I had for fan controlled. Oh, they got the field down, they got the field down. It looks like this stadium does look really cool. It looks really cool. They built this whole, like, it looks. It looks like a Debbie Debbie set. It's like a Titan Tron there's smoke. There's a ramp coming down. They. I mean, the field looks good. It's weird. I don't watch a lot of arena football, so it is kind of weird to see like a 50, a 50 yard field. But it does. It does look cool. I think, I think it's top notch dollars in production value behind this. I just don't know what the, what the. And top-notch money behind Johnny Manzell promo videos too. Yeah. You gotta wonder what Manzell is getting paid for the rest of these guys. Another question. Yeah, sorry. I'm very skeptical. They just seem to be like focusing on one guy and then everyone else's is just chopped liver. Yeah. That's interesting. We're going to take one more break, come back and fill out the rest of our show. I'm excited about this because that was a big fan back in the day. So we're going to break. We're gonna come back. And I'm gonna talk about this, cause I'm just, I'm I'm through the roof, excited on this. Believe it or not. [Unknown] there we go. We're back. We're kind of on. And we're going, I'm excited because EA sports is bringing back college football. This was overwhelmed. My social media, like nothing I've ever seen. People are very hyped. Yeah, it was, it was hands down. Like when they got to a point where they were integrating college football, you export the file and you pick up the new copy of Madden and you import the file. Like you build a player in college and you. You took them to national championship. Got all, this is, is attributes up to a great level. And you're like, I'm done after four years. What can I do with this player? Now you actually were able to export this player to Madden and continue. Awesome. That's I think that's the coolest thing. And that was so awesome that you could like say, ah, you know, I, I built this player from scratch and after four years I can't use it anymore. And then you could go take them to a new video game. And use them even longer. Yeah, it was so interesting. We have my friend Frank coming on wheelhouse this week. We kind of ambushed him as great a little segment there we have with him, but Frank and I used to play this game all the time. All the time. We were addicted to it, to where we built our own college. And as you build your own colleges, You could set your college like a juggernaut or, you know, middle of the road and, you know, win the national championship. Move yourself into a conference, move another team out. For example, I would move myself into the pack. PAC 10 at the time and move Arizona state out. It was really fun. This is a really cool thing that they're doing. And of course, the reason why they had to pull these kinds of games off the shelf was because there was a lawsuit filed. Where you pick up. Basically what happened was we would pick up the game of the NCAA football game. And you put it in and you'd, you'd see. Not player names, but for example, I know this because I used to play with Arizona a lot. You'd see quarterback number seven. And he knew who that was. You'd see a height and a weight. And a hometown. And you'd go to Arizona's roster. And you look up Willie to Tama. Emma was number seven. The same height. The same way. The same home town that's in. The NCAA football game. So. Regardless of them giving the names to the actual players, they were using their physical attributes. They were using their physical likenesses to sell this game. So ed O'Bannon from UCLA saw this and went, wait, what the F. You got a band of athletes together and said, look. Here's the deal. They are marketing our likenesses without paying us one. And without naming us, they think they're getting away from out from not paying us. You could go. When I worked in Tucson, you would go to the bookstore. In on the UVA campus, you go to the bookstore. And you could go by. A basketball Jersey. Arizona basketball Jersey with the number 43 on it. No name on the back. Just number 43. You knew you were buying Jordan Hills Jersey. But because Jordan Hill's name wasn't on the back. You weren't really buying Jordan Hills Jersey. And he didn't get anything from it. I didn't get anything from it. I was completely on the player side. It sucks that we lost this game because this game was really fun. Yeah. And when it comes back, read, I'm telling you gotta try it. It's you're gonna, you're gonna love this game. Well, it's so funny. So they, they, they, they announced that they were bringing it back next, gen consoles, Xbox. I got my serious ass. All that stuff just came out right now. It's [unknown]. Three years away. I haven't even started on it. And it's like, man, we're going to be at the next console before this game even comes. That's a long lead time for video game three years. Well, I mean, they've got some of the framework down now. I mean, not this year's Madden game. I think I have the last year's Madden game. They have a mode where you have a guy that you create. And you take them through the national championship and he plays for one of like six teams, like, you know, it's Texas tech. Or USC or taxes. What are these six schools? And after you're done playing the national championship as a backup. Like the bag. The main guy gets injured and you're the backup. And you get to play. Your first college game is in the national championship. Playout system is your name? Taylor. Hi Vicky. No, it's not. But they have this kind of system built into Madden a little bit. She could tell they were kind of already flirting with bringing this game back. So even if, even if it's three years out, I still feel like this is going to be a hot item. And I think that people are still going to be into this, and I think there's still going to buy it. And I was going to sell like hotcakes. It's probably outsell Madden. If I'm being honest is going to outsell Madden. Because people want the college experience back. I didn't know. They had such a story mode to it. I just thought it was like, you play. Play the game, play the game, play the game. This is such a cool game and I can't. I can't stress how cool it is enough. Like I fell in love with this game. There is still a very devoted community to this game. That they have the last version that had Desmond Howard on the front. And what they do is in their little Facebook groups or something, they will send people updated rosters. They're like, okay, here are the stats. You're updating roster for this year. There are still people who update this game. Spend hours updating this game. It's incredible. So the love affairs back I'm excited. You should be excited, especially when this game drops. I'm telling you it's it's going to be fun. Okay. I w a couple of minutes real quick. Speaking of the WWE games you were talking about earlier with Ronnie Singh, I did you ever play a day? Was I Robert SmackDown when you could be like the GM and like book the shows. It was way better than even like the wrestling game. It's like, no, I just want to like simulate the shows every week. I that's, that's what we like. You get, there's like these head coach modes, where in, in the NCAA football, you have these head coach modes where you just like go and recruit and then just, you. You know, like you would do the paperwork aspect of things. Did you ever see Xavier woods and Tyler breeze? Do their YouTube series on up, up, down, down where they were playing Eve every week. No one was the GM for RA one was the GM for SmackDown and they book their shows without the other one, knowing it's an interesting series. You're playing this mode specifically because of this, how cool this mode was. It's cool. I remember when we were found that last week. But like calories follows me on Twitter. Maybe he listens to the show. Excellent Mark. ASPAN we'd get them on the show. Yeah, that'd be great. The other quick. Now, today will last night. I downloaded it today. They have, if you remember old school video games, you have the Tony Hawk. The N 64. They, they revamped them this year. So like, you could play like the original Tony Hawk pro skater game, but it's all like updated new graphics and everything. I was very excited. $40. You got a one and two. It doesn't, it's not as fun as I thought it would be really valid. I would go back and like, I'm so bad at it now. Like I could play the whole level. With my eyes closed, like go through and get everything very, very challenging game now. At middle thirties to do that. Wow. Wow. It it, you know, I'd like to say it's like riding a bike, but sometimes it's not. Sometimes it's not. All right. Thanks for joining. Did we go? How long did we go? In an hour. That's good. Well, we didn't have much. I'm glad I just was curious. I have no idea. I have a lot of filler, a lot of filler today. We've talked about a lot of things. We kind of, you know, I kind of spaced out a little bit of those cell phones, fan controlled football thing. But we got to wait an hour. Yeah, just a little bit over an hour. Congratulations. We did it a happy 21st birthday to the XFL. And of course XFL show.com/review to leave us a review on our podcasts. And F XFL show.com/merge to buy some expo Merc customer. One more thing we forgot to do. Who are you thinking in the Superbowl? Who am I taking the Superbowl? I think the bucks are gonna win. Yeah. And I was telling him, we went like disagree. I think brings. I think brain is going to do it. Yeah. I got them at the amateur that no. It's Tom anymore. I said, Tom, wasn't going to make one. I said they were going to make the NFC championship. I said that right. And they made the analytics. So I'm not betting against Tom anymore. I'm done. I do think, I do think a pageant, my homes is going to win though. I want Brady to went. I know. He's questionable. Some things nowadays, people don't like him, but. It's really remarkable. Just to, you know, Yeah. Number 10. Did you know? He's 43 years old. I ever. Retired for the super bowl to read that. Did you know that Matthew Stafford. Clayton Kershaw were teammates on a soccer. Team. That was going on for the last week on Twitter, every five minutes, someone was mentioning their teammates as, as, as on soccer field, like when they were kids. I yeah. The two weeks. I know there was no pro bowl this year, but the two weeks between that, the NFC AFC championship games and the super bowl, it is really the longest, like good morning football was doing like fake cooking segments this week. I mean, they've really. They've really hit a wall. I did get retweeted by Nate Burleson. Now that was the highlight of that was Kung Lao hats. Yes. Yeah, I got to go. But now I'm ready for the super bowl, but I am fearful that once the Superbowl ends, we will not have any extra feedback. Well, at least the weekend will perform at the super bowl. Right. But did you know that. I knew that. I mean, I mean, he's going to perform at the super bowl, but didn't get one Grammy nomination. And that song has been out for a year now. That's only came out a year ago. Yeah. It was the song of the summer and it was, well, it was a WrestleMania theme song. Last restaurant. Yeah. And now he's, I. I'm like, that's not has been out forever. Yeah. Yeah. Now one Grammy nomination though. Anyway, I am happy XFL a birthday and yeah. Cheers. And thanks for listening again. We'll see you next week.

XFL Markcast Episode 25 - Buying In on Fan Controlled Football? (ft. Greg Miller)

Please don't say it's jam packed episode, please. Don't send that today. This is quite possibly the biggest episode we've ever had. No disrespect to any of our previous guests. Spring-like MEP Brian Scott, friend of the show. Chad, though. Cinco. Patrick DS my wife. This is honestly, I w when you say the biggest, biggest gas biggest show we've had so far. Yeah, probably. Yeah. And no disrespect. I think there's a little. Little bit bigger. Not by much. No disrespect. One-on-one. Okay, I'm going to vote for ultra single cause we did have auto sync. But. I don't think, I don't think this guy, this guy's big. Oh, yeah, we got, worked, worked on this for about a month. We got Greg Miller. One of the owners of fingernail football, one of the team owners coming up later in the show. So just kind of order of operations today, we got some XFL stuff and then there's like a, there's a ton of fan controlled football stats. So people that are interested in that, we're going to do all of the XFL stuff, all the notes and everything from that. And then we got Greg and all that. So tons of stuff coming up, but it really is like tons and tons of fan controlled stuff with the new website and the rules and investing in the league and all that stuff. So we're going to get into all of that. As well, but yeah, you got a new backdrop. You look good. You got your nice hat and Jersey on. Yep. Just bought. I just bought, I told, I said I made a promise. I said of DJ. [unknown] the Yankees. I'll go buy another Yankee's Jersey. I wanted to pin stripes one. I said I would go by a DJ. And sure enough, six years. Digital or may he was gonna retire Yankee. So I went out and got a new pin Stripe, Yankee Jersey. It's fits real nice. So I just wanted to wear that today. Celebrate the good news. You got your Debbie, Debbie for people on a XFL show that comm slash YouTube. You have your Debbie, Debbie universal title belt behind you, which I got used to buy in LA after it. Just a different one. Number. Cause I sold my old one. That's not the one that we bought from yard house, where I had bite you, then. No, no, this is the one my sister got for me. Okay. We. At one point in time when you can socially drink and hang out, you know, and not have COVID. Grandpa back. I had Paul, I think he, I, we drank like three yards of Shiner beer at yard house LA and then walked into staples center and got Paul to buy one of those styles of belts. And Nydia never stopped judging me for that, by the way. Just just a heads up. And also, I want to point out that also behind me, I got to rearrange my pointing area. I'm also got, you know, like the photo journalist of the year award in Miami. So we gotta, we have to discuss those things too. That's good. Some of us are nominated. Some of us have one it's all, all equal in this world. It's going to say. We did get a really good review of this week. I think it came on like literally as the episode aired and we're going to talk all about episode airing and things happening. A Platypus it's spelt all weird on podcast addict. He said we're a year away from getting the XFL back, read and Paul. So keep me up to date with the news and hyper return. Plus, I get to learn about some other leagues cough. I told Patrick DS, we would like our commission check from fair. No football. I did. I wouldn't have known about the perfect balance of personalities that makes you feel like you're chilling with friends. As good as a good podcast. S**t. Keep up the good work guys. So thank you very much for that review. Now the more delightful in my life than waking up to it, to our review. Excellent. show.com/reveal. That's why you were giving away free masks. Like they were like, you know, like, Oprah. You know, you were like Oprah with a mask. You get a mask. If you get a bass, could you get a gainer? So we're happy to see more reviews. Also, also want to plug this to exfil show.com/merch. Log on. Buy some. Like reeds reeds, little XFL, Mark cast, honey, of course we had to change the logo up. Everything's back up. Everything's back on line. They're allowing us to add multiple products, so we'll have some more stuff up there soon. And yeah. Excellent show.com/merge, support the show. Yeah. Do you see, I ordered another sweatshirt because I like to have, I'm kind of one of those. Like, I wear the same thing for like a week. And so when I wash it, then it's like panic attack because I'm like, I need another sweater. It's now I have one that I can wear. One when I'm washing one. I can testify that there are, there've been many times where he's worn. Jersey. Like weeks. So it's good to see you getting some more, some more, some more merged, some more clothes in your closet. But speaking of we did, Paul announced last week, we were doing the big giveaway for the chatter to a single ball. When we get a thousand subscribers on YouTube. We got like 10 new subscribers this week. So thank you guys again. We, we get there, we get the views. We need the subscribers. Yeah. I mean, I'm looking at the ratios here. And I'm like seeing a lot of use, which is great. We appreciate that. But those need to transfer into subscribers as well, because we want that ratio to even out. So if you please subscribe, we hit a thousand. We're going to give away. It's on its way. It's not here yet. Just to prove it when it, when it comes, I will, I will show it. And we'll get, we'll get one of you to win this lucky football from shadow Josephine. Go autographed just for subscribing to the YouTube channel. I was going to joke. Someone wrote me. He said, well, maybe we, it can be a Houston roughnecks ball, but it's already coming. You already hit up Jannie already. Cause I was gonna say, maybe we can get eased the rednecks. Paul Simon chat. Ouches. It's just so nice on that one. Sorry. And speaking of the Houston roughnecks. What do you think about this situation? Are they going to be able to. Have any logos, should they just, are you just. Assuming they may drop the name completely. Yeah. I mean, that was kind of, eh, Oh, yeah, we talked about last week. XFL has until the end of February. Here's and I got a couple of notes at the top of the show here, too. There's been a lot of talking this week about, you know, timelines from last year to this year for the XFL. Yeah. Okay. Well, last February 2nd, they announced that who Bob stoops was coming on. So that means that this year. It's not at all the same thing, even though he's arrived next. Jeffrey Pollock and the rock and Danny are picturing the exit foul. If all goes well as a, you know, a 50 year brand. Even with the Houston roughnecks, do they care really about one team and the logo that was around for nine months? I mean, they can keep the name. But I do definitely think that it is not worth them at all to pay any licensing or royalties for those logos. Just change the logos. It's easy enough. We understand it's it's, it's obvious what Vince was trying to do with the original XML logos. We discussed that last week. He was trying to draw on that familiarity of the Patriots of the Oilers. But it's time, like just fix the logos and change them up. And then we're good to go. I just, there's been a lot of talk this week at the XFL. Shows market news tab. I've been hearing a lot of this, like, well, you know, two years ago or one year ago, like this thing happened this week and it's not going to be the same thing again, like at all. And we don't, I mean, we are assuming, you know, February, right after the Superbowl, it could be March. It could be April. It could not actually even be in 2022. I mean, you know, that's what the goal is. But you know, this whole, okay, well, you know, it's going to mimic how it was last year and they're going to do the summer showcase in June and they're going to do this and the drastic and to be electric. Maybe, but I just, you can't, you can't live and die with that. And I get a lot of comments and I got a lot of messages about that. The virus is going to do with the virus is going to do. That's what we need. What needs to be focused on this virus is going to deal, but it's going to do, we're seeing variants. That are more contagious now than, than the other, the original variance. Like this thing is going to do what it's going to do and it's, there's a good chance. We'll always have to live with COVID. I need to be, I need to be completely clear because there's so many people that don't trust the vaccine. And I understand concerns with a vaccine. I get it like. It, you know, The flu vaccine, doesn't always work for the strain of flu. It's always like 40% effective against the flu that comes out every year. This thing is 95% effective because it changes. And I don't want to get too political on the situation. But it's, it changes the way your cells fight viruses. So. If, if we can get to a point where herd immunity as possible vaccinations and people having adequate antibodies. Then maybe we can come back to life normal, but this virus is going to do what it's gonna do. So let's not. Assume that everything's going to move on the same timeline. That it's supposed to the last time around. Let's just meet. And yeah, and I mean, honestly in my day job, you know, I do a lot of wedding stuff and we have a lot of brides and grooms. You have bucked August, September, October, this year. And they're saying, you know, this might not really be hitting until the fall when we start getting all these people and. Same thing. We're trying to tell people, you know, we, we just don't know. And this, this permeates into like, you know, your job and life. You know, like everything, but we just don't know. And I just please, with all of this stuff, if it's, if it's not matching the timeline this last time, it does not mean that it is a call for disaster or that it is, I think Mark Perry was like, you know, we're getting into AAF territory if you don't start announcing stuff this week. And I'm like, I just don't think that, that, and I also think. That red bird and all them have way more resources than even Vince dead. Like I said before, you know, Vince runs a WBE and ran the XFL, like one mom and pop shop on a national level. The rock and them are going to run this like a multi-billion dollar, you know, like, did they run all of their different staff? You know, they can launch a product at the snap of a fingers. He ended up, they got the energy drink coming out to anybody. I just. That's my fear with that. One last talk about the logos. Zach did mention that we were talking about the dragons and the university of Alabama at Birmingham, I guess, logo for the dragons. He sent it over is like exactly the same thing as the dragons. So just people are curious, are other logos and things going to get infringed. I don't know. I did notice that. And there is a lot of similarities. Yes. And to that point, UAB actually shuttered their football program for a little bit and then brought it back. And they've been really good since they brought it back. So now, like, This brings up an interesting question. Did they just like. Blow up all the team names and just say, let's just avoid all of this all together. And there are varied. I'm sure rebill will be good enough to put the logos on the screen from UAB and the Seattle dragons. To show the discrepancy here or not discrepancy, but the similarities. And yeah, I, this might be a situation where we just rename all the teams, so that, that merged behind you on that wall, except for the crack heads. Flag, of course that might be vintage merge. We'll set for the generic Seattle Jersey. It's autographed by everybody. Ran this over chasing him. Nick, whenever his name is, this is like collector's items. I mean, we got Brandon silver signed. I mean, this is like hanging out in the museum, man. It could be, you know, and they, they, cause they did, they, they blew out all the merge and, you know, for black Friday and all that stuff. I mean, they're really, I think they're keeping the teams are keeping the, the city is and all that stuff, but yeah, logos team names, all that stuff is really. Is really up in the air. So. It just it's vegan of exit Velo and news, of course, you know, every week we post and then we miss and last week, I think we literally hit, hit, hit and recording. We got off the call. Vince, ultimately football's got messaged me. Hey, did you hear this thing about XFL looking for a CFO? And I'm like, And of course, you know, other XFL shows build their entire episode around this, right. That falls in their laps. So we produced this whole show and then have everything. Yeah, we missed the whole thing. It happens all the time. What do you, what do you think about this? Them hiring a chief football officer. I don't want to get into, I mean, this is old news at this point, but do you want to get your thoughts and I want to share it. What do you think about them? Hiring a chief football officer and not like a commissioner. I think it's the outside of the box approach that they're doing. Going to be the same position, probably. Just different names. And I think what they're trying to do is, you know, like really emphasize that it's going to be about the game. So instead of having a commissioner commissioner always has a negative connotation to it. Like when there was a commissioner of the WWE Jack Tunney, people booed him like. You go back and watch the 1992 Royal rumble Ric flair entered a number of the spoiler alert, Ric flair entered in. Almost 30 year old rumble, but spoiler alert, Ric flair entered in number three. And won the whole thing in one, the title when Jack Tawny came out and said, the winner of the rumble is going to win the title. Everybody was booing him. Rob Manfred people don't like mock Rob Manfred. Cause he protected the Astros as opposed to protecting the integrity. People don't like Roger Goodell over the whole Ray rice situation. Commissioner has a negative connotation to it. So maybe changing the name to chief football officer removes that potential negative connotation to the word commissioner. The one concern I had is we are in end of January and the search has been going on for two months. Cause that was the thing. When it first came out, you know, Vance messaged me and I know max, one of our listeners, he messaged me. He goes, you know, of course you guys missed this news. I go. Yeah. But like, we know that they're hiring people. We know that they're searching. We know that like all these things, I mean, yes, it's a big deal, you know? It, you know, it got ran with Ryan. He got it. Simplicity. I think it's a big LA from it's like behind the search. It's like, would they made fun of, and like entourage and staff, it's like a big talent agency. Right. But yeah, your connections. And, but there's no surprise that this is going on. Right? I mean, everybody knows, like obviously the rock and Danny are, are, are looking at hiring people. What is concerning is that the search has been going on for two months and they have not hired anybody yet. I would say that is concerned. I don't think that's concerning. I think it's like, if you. For example me I'm single. Put that out there in the streets. I've been single probably about a year now. And. I don't want to just settle on anyone. So maybe rock and Danny just don't want to settle on any one to fill that role. They want the right person. And maybe the right person I don't know is, is going to be eventually be all of her luck. If the lawsuit gets settled at the time, I don't think they can wait for that to happen. But maybe that's what it might be. That's what they want to happen, but that's, that's not realistic. So I, you know, maybe they're just waiting for the right one. I wouldn't panic quite yet about this. I'm not, I'm not there yet. Maybe in another four or five months, I'd be like, what are you guys doing? Are you guys going to hire someone? Because you said you're gonna launch. And maybe I might become like the people that, you know, say what's up with the timeline. I might do that in maybe four or five, six more months. But right now I think they're, they're just waiting for the right. Canada to come along. Who knows who that's going to be. Yeah. Again, I just. We framing all your expectations. I got in a long discussion with max today on Twitter, about, you know, our players is going to be coming back to the same teams. Are they going to be whatever the XFL again, if, if it goes in the, in the scheme, even the hiring of this, if they're looking at a 30 year brand, everything that's happened so far is just a sliver of anything. And so they are gonna keep the things that they want. They're going to do new things that they want. They're going to, they're not going to be beholden to the way that Vince did it, Danny. And we have an article later. She was on Forbes again, talking about this. Like they have big, big, big visions for this. And if they have to lose the rough necks logo, if they're going to redraft teams, they might get all new coaches. You know, I just, it's not going to be a light switch flip on that everybody thought back a year ago, or back in August, like, Oh, the rock bought it. They're just going to flip on the light switch and get everything going. Maybe, maybe they'll keep some stuff, but they're, they're definitely gonna do their own thing. And Danny has huge visions for this beyond just what it's been so far. Someone else actually did bring on was a Russ, Brandon, the former president of the bills and sabers. And I'm not sure you're familiar with this. This piqued my interest because I I'm aware of a situation that happened back in 2018, where he resigned. As the president of the bills and sabers. Being confronted with a inappropriate relationship with a, with a female employee. Oh, yeah, that happened. So there's, there's a question Mark here is to maybe have they done their, vetting it to make sure this was all on the up and up. I just know that this did happen. I can, I can guarantee you 100%. Those did happen. So Brandon stepped down because of the allegations of, of. Inappropriate relationship with a female employee when he, it says he is serving as an advisor. So, I mean, maybe he's not going to be, you know, you're bringing them on as a consultant or something, but yeah, I mean, there definitely is. It's interesting, you know, I mean, Vince, as we've talked about before with Manzell and everything, Vince was very against, you know, colored pass and things and maybe the rock and Danny, like you said, maybe they, they vetted this and figure it out, whatever. And I don't know all those circumstances, but you know, they're, they're wanting to find the right people. It's just, it's interesting that this has been going on for so long and we are now presumably a year out and it would be nice to know that, you know, we have some hirings happening. Exactly. Other XFL news, pep Hamilton is apparently of interviewing with the Steelers for their offensive coordinator job. Couldn't couldn't do a worst job. And this year, I mean, let's, let's be honest. You, when, when people, the Steelers nation, the fans were like excited about they're 11 and O start I'm like you guys are the worst 11 and O team at history. Like you guys haven't played anyone. You got a lot of luck on your side. I don't know why you're bragging about being 11. And now right now, when they get to the playoffs, the Browns waxed them. They waxed. Hard. So I asked them and then, yeah. Before, and then whacked him in the playoffs. They couldn't run the ball. Steelers getting around the ball. It's good for Pat. I mean, look at him, you know, he went from DC defenders, you know, was in LA with all that, you know, Anthony Lynn now rises with the lions. Yeah. They, they got rid of the hammer. And then, I mean, I definitely think, you know, this show is same with the players. The rep said a lot of these guys and girls got in the XFL. Is is really setting the stage for, you know, I don't think Pat would be in this position, you know, interviewing for this, have it not have been a couple of steps he had just had in the last year with the XFL and everything else. Right. Lower Steelers news on that note. Dwayne Haskins has signed with the Steelers. Yeah. For like no guarantee or all the guarantees have been paid is like 850,000 for the year. So, I mean, it's not a big gamble, but I interested in that he got picked up so quick. It is. And I'll tell you why. Art Rooney has said today. That Rothenberger wants to come back for his 18th season, but there's going to be something called a salary cap hit on, on his contract. So that's gonna, it's gonna count 41, I think $41 million against their cap. In terms of bringing Ben back. So there's a good chance that Dwayne Haskins might play. He might start next year for those dealers. What's an. Tommy Maddox. What's the name of the backup that played against the Browns? Tommy Maddox. Is that right? Dude. That's like XFL 1.0 stuff. Steelers backup. They, he was the one that played against the, the, when the Browns be them. No, it wasn't him. Yeah, I mean, Maddix, stealers. Dude, it's not Tommy Maddox. Look up Tommy Maddox. Tell me when he played. He is a former football player. He. He was, he was the original LA XFL quarterback. He's like 50 years old. Hang on. Was he going to play? Where is this dealers? I'm serious, man. This is a, this is Tommy Maddix. Tommy Maddox was an old Steelers. Quarterback an old one. Dude. Yeah, Tommy Maddox like a long, long time ago. Mason Mason. That's amazing. Any Maddix. Wow. Amazing. What's he doing? If, if, if Dwayne Haskins is coming in, what's a, you know, That's a good question. Cause Mason Rudolph was, let's see, what did I pick them? They picked them at Oklahoma state. I believe it was what round was that? They picked him up bad. Looking here real quick, round three. In 2018, they picked up Mason Rudolph out of Oklahoma state. So. There's going to be, there's going to be a little bit of a battle there and I don't think, I don't really think they're gonna bring Ben back. 18 years, 17 years. Yeah, he's pretty, he's pretty. He's done. I mean, and the whole reason we talk about this is because of Dwayne Haskins, you know, from, from the Washington football team with Taylor, Taylor had the cane, all that. It was funny today on good morning, good morning football. They were talking about, you know, Brady getting to the Superbowl and EO. He beat drew Brees at home. He be Aaron Rodgers at home. Don't forget he beat Taylor ham Turkey. Don't forget that he beat dealer hierarchy. So it never, never forget when one of the greats that Tom Brady beat on his way to his 10th Superbowl was Taylor. Hi, Nikki. Wow. Anyway, but yeah. Dwayne's. Yeah. Do I answer the Steeler. So who knows? And, and to put this in perspective. When you talk about all types of role appearances, the Patriots have 11 all times. Super bowl appearances. And nine of those are with Brady. So brainy almost has just as many super bowl appearances. And I know he played for the Patriots. I get that. But if he were to come back again and lead Tampa, the super bowl again, next year. Brady would have 11 and the Patriots would have 11. So that's interesting in itself. And of course we here at the Mar cast. I'm sure there are receipts. Reid told me there's some receipts. We said the book bucket. Buccaneers would not get to the Superbowl. Thanks for proving me wrong. Yeah, I was, we skipped, I skipped over this at the beginning. I did want to ask you general thoughts on the Superbowl this year. Are you excited for my home service braiding? I am. And I. I don't want to make a prediction. Cause, I mean, There's going to be one of two things happens either. Either people are going to have the narrative that Brady was only effective. Cause Bella check was there. Or people are going to have the narrative that Bella check was only effective because Brady was there. One of the, one of the other. And as much as I would like to see, like someone like Patrick, go home, start his he's already a superstar. Yeah, he's already making bank. He's got a baby on the way. He's going to get married. He's already, he's already got a great situation in front of you guys. Must be. It must be nice. So it must be nice to be Patrick. My homes. You sound like Kermit must be nice. I wouldn't, I don't want to root against Patrick my homes, but the only reason I'm going to is because your brother's Tik TOK dances, Patrick, or ridiculous. That's why I'm ruined for Brady this time around I'm hoping Brady brings home another ring and we could solidify this argument because people are still saying the Brady's not the goat. I think he is. I think he is the goat. And this would, I think this would satisfy the argument. That Brady is the greatest of all time. Is this funny? Cause, you know, we watched, I was written for the Browns who watched them lose weight. I was rooting for the bills. Who watched them lose. And your Dorothy was asking you, cause she goes, man, you know, this was a terrible day of football, you know, cause the Packers loss and the, and the bills loss, I said, you know, as someone that watched the WWE for 20 years, right. I'm used to like my guys not getting the wins. Right. But, but normally it's because it's a 70 year old man. That's like, I hate what my fans think. I'm going to put over the same people over and over again. Right. Or at least this is like real life. Right. You know, the bills loss, you know, Baker Mayfield. Couldn't get it down with ESL. It's real life in competition because I'm very used to not having, you know, the person that I want to win, win, or be champions. So that, that was kinda my thoughts on that. And, and, you know, Joe Buck during the telecast kept saying, well, if the, if the Buccaneers, when there'll be the first road team to win three games ago, On the super bowl and that is not true. Eighty-five patrons. Oh, five Steelers. Oh, seven giants. All did it too. So Joe Buck, I don't know where you're getting. Your stats from, but that is wrong, but we do want to point out because they pointed out 28 point. 6,000 times, whatever they pointed out 20,000 times during the telecast. That a Tampa Bay one, they'd be playing the super bowl at home first team to ever do that. If they're, if they're playing at home, do they get treated like the home team? Are they going to fire the cannons off when they score in question? My thing though, is, is so many of those guys had been brought in this year. If you're a Buccaneers fan, are you really excited about that? I guess I got a friend at work. I got a friend at work who was stoked. You just like use an Alabama fan. And he's a Tampa Bay fan because Alabama doesn't a pro football team. My first fan, too. Right. When he wasn't, he was a Tampa Bay fan before they got good. So I don't, you know, don't accuse him of being a band Wagoner. He was a Tampa Bay fan. He was like really hoping Jamis Winston will work out. Didn't work out. And it didn't work out at all. And now he's really excited because then I was like, Oh my gosh, I could be on the verge of like having two championship football teams. And he's been excited and shouts to him for, you know, sticking it through because Tampa's had some rough times. Since Chucky left. So yeah. The 68 oldest coach ever to win a Superbowl. Wow. That's that's interesting. Yeah. And so now the WW of course is going to hold a WrestleMania there. It's all connected. It's all connected. Cause McMahons and DeSantis are like this they're best friends forever and yeah. That's that's, that's cool that they took allies away from them. Did you see, I put this in here about Panthers with PJ Walker, right? And this kind of goes into where Deshaun Watson came out today as of recording that he is, you know, formally requesting the trade from the Houston Texans. They have talked a lot about potentially Caroline, that being the place for him to land among others. I mean, it's a very crowded field of where he's going to go. But then today, or a couple of days ago, I had a tweet from the Panthers, a new general manager that just got brought in. Asking you about, you know, the team and evaluating, you know, the players. He goes, we will be in on every deal, but before we do anything outside, I need to find out who we have here. Is he going to find PJ Walker? You would hope so. It's a really long amount with NASA. You would hope so you would hope that maybe he'd find PJ Walker and I don't know. What their financial situation is with max career. Wilger I'm sorry, not max square wheelchair. But then they also have the, the $20 million question. There's a $20 million elephant in the room. What are they gonna do with penny? I don't see Deshaun Watson landing with Carolina. I see him landing with a team like. Maybe. I maybe the jets, probably the jets. I think the jets are the most likely candidate. They've got a new coach. They got a new energy, a giants fan seem to be in on Daniel Jones right now. So I think that that's okay. The jets don't really have. But yet don't really have that guy. And they've got a great new coach with. Robert Solei. And he loves Deshawn said that he loves Robert. Robert's a great coach. I mean, You know, his defenses in San Francisco, as Seattle fans, that we are. We know how we know how dominating those defenses are. That that guy is going to turn the jets around. You laugh at the jets now. You laugh at the jets for all the things they did. They blew the first round overall pick you laugh at them. Now you're not gonna be laughing like two or three years now. Units are going to be a force. Of course the bills are gonna be there too. And the dolphins, you know, the Sean could land in Miami to, there's a possibility of that as well, because. While two was great. If you have a chance to trade to us and some pics to get someone who's more seasoned. More experienced. You do it. So I think Deshaun Watson is going to land in the AFC East, no matter what, it just matters. If it's going to be the jets are dolphins. Not in Carolina. Not well, anyway, I just was curious about that. Anytime I see anything with the Panthers that piques my interest, because the PJ, you know, I know he's got, I think he's got two year deal there, but just, you know, they, they got the eighth round in the, in the draft. They're talking to all these other QBs. This is interesting to see, you know, if he just winds up sitting there as another backup quarterback, I'm going to throw in another possible. Landing spot for Deshaun Watson. New Orleans. Yeah. I mean, cause they're they need, I tasted Hill is not the future that neither is James Winston. And, and drew Brees, I think that's it for him. He's at a great career. I think it's interesting that re Philip Rivers has announced his retirement before drew Brees did because they drafted, drafted Eli. Then Eli went on and cried and said, he's going to Sue. And they traded Eli for Philip Rivers and Philip Rivers was supposed to be the heir apparent and take over for breeze. Cause they thought breeze wasn't going to be the guy in San Diego. Which is now, you know, the LA chargers. So let the breeze go and made Phillip the guy and Phillip has retired before dream drew Brees house. So maybe, maybe. Deshaun Watson landing spot is new Orleans. And if it happens to happen, If he happens to happens to go to new Orleans. We've got to pull the receipts on this episode. Okay. I had a question for you about this NBC as shutting down NBC sports, you know, way more about all the TV landscape for that than I do. I mean, do you have any thoughts? Does this affect the next it felt TV deal? I don't think it does because the regionals are not getting shut down. And the reason why I know the regionals are not getting shut down as a, as a person. You and I both know Caseen works at. Caseen Gibson works with the Bay area, regional sports networks. So these, these regional networks are not being shut down at all. It's going to be a situation where it's just the national NBC sports, a sports network, so we could still have the XFL deal in place. There's also peacock. That's going to be running some of the national stuff like the NHL. Contracts. The NBC has, the peacocks can be run that I know you say I'm trying to make peacock capital. It's not make this happen. But peacock is happening, whether you like it or not, like they've got the office now, they've got a lot of their NBC properties back. They've got the permit fee. Fee. We've got the permit. WW networks. Put peacock. They've got the premier league. A lot of soccer, fans love British soccer. They've got the premier league on peacock. It's a very real possibility that Xcel could tie into that and latch their boat out of that. Maybe that would smooth the waters between, I feel like there's some animosity here between Vince and the rock I really do. And maybe this moves the waters just a little bit between the two parties. To where, you know, If the XFL landed with NBC. It would, it would be a good spot on peacock. It's just, it's so weird. And I know this is XFL block aspect. You know, they're paying $1 billion for the WWE network stuff, right. They paid $1 billion for. The rod smack down. It was like four 50 and five 50 combined. You know, they sold a couple of years ago for the TV. And it's so funny to me, like nobody's watching WWE, the ratings are in the tank. I mean, I know they get like 1.8 million viewers or whatever, but I mean, just for what they, you know, they, the Heights that they used to go to even a couple of years ago, getting four or five, 6 million. And I was like, okay, well, nobody watches this, but now we're going to pay for it again. And now it's going to be in our streaming service and then maybe people will watch it. Isn't that weird that it's like, they're paying for this thing twice and it's like, nobody watches it on NBC, but yet they're going to watch it on the peacock network. I mean. A lot of people do watch the Hulu replays. And basically, I think the only reason people. At this point you're used, they're saving me 10 bucks. Yeah. I have, I have someone else's log in for the network. Oops. But. I already, already paid for peacock. Cause I want the premiere league games. So now I get my attitude, era content, and I don't feel so dirty given the WUE my money. Cause I'm actually giving it to NBC. So it's a win-win for me. And I'm just sitting here wondering now at the situation. Why. Why are they just going to give the pay-per-views away on the peak cognitive work? Why aren't they just going to go? Why. Why wouldn't they do. ESPN wanted to get in on this. And they wanted to have that UFC type model where you had ESPN plus for five 99 a month. But if you want to use UFC pay-per-view you pay the extra $50 or whatever it is. I don't know. I've never paid for UFC. Pay-per-view. If you wanted the extra, if you wanted that, pay-per-view you pay the extra money? So I didn't, I don't understand why the WMU didn't go with that model. That's confusing to me. Well, I don't think, I think that. They have not charged full price for paper views for so long. Right. Cause the network it's included and all that, it's very hard when once they did that. Oh, you get all the pay-per-views for nine 99. And my it's very hard to go back to. Oh, would you like to pay $50 for this? It's like, well, no, I just got it. My friend's login and I get it for free or I pay $10 a month and I get it. Aye. I honestly think there's going to be a situation that comes about. Where you'll have everything on the network. But if you want that first week run of the pay-per-view, you'll have to pay an additional premium. I think that's where it's going to go. I really do. The peacock peacock is going to be like, we need to make money on these pay-per-views. These are supposed to be big events. But you don't think that to get back to me. So you don't think NBC sports and all that. That is, you know, cause cause. NFL. I think the divisional games were down ratings too. You know, there, there were some concerns. They were down like 7% or whatever. There's no concern about XFL getting the potential TV deal with all this going on. No, I don't think at all. I think we're, I think we're good. I honestly think that up. That no matter what, even if ESPN they're, they're just going to get a great deal. And I don't think this is going to affect anything. I really don't. I mean, I would just say, yeah. Like prime or something and just do it on there. Possibility broadcast at all, but it's, I mean, prime is showing in the Seattle market prime showing up. Sounders games, no matter what. And that that's a possibility too, and that may be a model for everyone to move to. Like, you know, you, you have some prime NFL games that happen. Maybe MLS goes that route. That's a good way to expand the audience, as opposed to just, you know, hoping to get hoping the matches on ESPN. Plus sometimes it's not, who knows this could, this could open things up in terms of having more over the top services. And now that they've, they've mastered the craft of having live sports on these over the top services, because these things used to only be for on-demand situations. And now they finally figured out how to do live sports on them. So maybe this is where everything tends to go. Yeah. And even like that they have the NFL one this year. It was the 49ers Cardinals, whatever on that one Saturday, that, and I, you could, you know, they have all these different stats and you get out like alternative commentators in South of media. It allows them to do more things, to give you options, to watch it right. I think they had all female announced team and they had different languages and separate it. Doing that versus just having it on like NBC or whatever it does. There are benefits to it besides just whatever else. Right. The inactive XFL accounts lost their verification. You notice this. This was a. Yeah, I'm trying to. I can't remember who tweeted me about this. A big freak out. Friday, all the XFL verify the counts. All of her lock. Everybody lost their verifications. They're back now. It went through Twitter. Because I think the Trump thing and the section two 30 and all that, and they're really getting down on the verifications. And so have you had had an inactive Twitter account, which a lot of them are. You know, obviously the XFL ones. They a lot of the loss or verifications and now they're back, but it wasn't big. It was a big freak out on Friday with Jake Henry. There you go. Jake Henry was the one that I texted, you know, people say like, Oh my God, this y'all dragons isn't verified. Does that mean that it doesn't mean that they're not. It just means that. But, you know, it is concerning. If you have a list of all the XFL teams and you always see a couple of them verified, so. So that's, that's a tip to you. I know you don't. Expo Mark Twitter account. You should probably use the Reid Johnson County. It's verified. I use both. Yeah. Consider using that a little bit more, all over luck. Was he verified or he was. And, and. Lock lock is off now, which would make sense. Cause I don't think he's using all of her like XFL, whatever, but all of her life isn't verified. All the other ones are so. Awesome. This last note, Danny had another big article this week on forbes.com talking about, you know, as a business owner, as a female and kind of whatever that means. And they were asking about the XFL game, which is good. I mean, again, having the rock and Danny and all these people involved in it. When they credit her now, right. It says Danny Garcia, you know, seven bucks production and tyramine tequila. Female on her, you know? XFL and the only female on every sports team. She said they were asking her about the exit valid. She said, Tapey XFL football is a sport absent at the idea of taking care of everybody involved or responsibility for how that experience is to the fan or the audience. All of my passion perspective and expertise is to take care of people. It's advancing the human experience. So the XFL it's the largest scale opportunity. I have to utilize everything I've done today to impact people in amazing ways to really get in there, create incredible gameplay and deliver excellence in football. Also the female interpretation of that. And so that's when I get back to. When people are like, well, do you think they're gonna like bring the roughnecks logo back? Like Danny doesn't care about that. Danny is like way bigger ideas than like, are they going to do training camp again in December in Houston or whatever they did last time? Danny's playing chess. Those ideas about all the logo and stuff. Those are checklist. It's like Danny's playing chess, playing longer. So I just, I just thought it wasn't no, I mean, you know, forbes.com, big website, you know, big platform there, we have more forums newsletter with the finger to a football and all that, but yeah, it just, they've got way bigger ideas than like, Oh, are we going to assign Brack, Brandon Silver's to the dragons or whatever you. No. They don't care about that kind of stuff right now. The dope way, bigger picture. As I got fractured fell, we got. Going on two fingers on football after the break, maybe. You got to take a break real quick. Pay some bills. For a distributor here who graciously pumps out the podcast to all the networks that you've downloaded on. We'll be back with some fan controlled football news. And Greg Miller. We're a big, big, big time interview coming up. Come up. Guys thought that was a good little XFL segment. There we go. So the rules at the bottom, we can do whatever with those are not, I mean, just some of them might know backup, QB and stuff, but just all the other news is here. And then that's just kind of like Vince put that stuff together. Okay. Awkward. Sitting in this chair. But more comfortable than the store. That's good. All right. And we're back. Talking about fan controlled football. Got Greg. Greg Miller coming up. A little bit of padding. That in a very sorry I'm watching the clock nervously. We have Greg and to join us and we'll, you know, we'll plug all that sandbag, but very excited for that. Greg, one of the team owners finally getting some team ownership on here. I'll tell you. The news are really blew up this week. Greg blew up the fan controlled stuff online. And then yesterday, Wednesday as a recording was like the biggest news dump day in the history of the world with a finger till football announcing via Forbes that fans can invest in the teams. They released the rule book, they updated the website, they added the games to this. Calendar Richard Sherman came out and did an interview there. There's like, there's a ton of stuff. And so this is what I'm going to say. [unknown]. Van, our number one fan did a post on Facebook about it. This might not be for everybody, right. Fingertip football, and we're going to get into the rules. And, and these are some of these are really weird. And I don't know what this is. Right. I was trying to talk with Dorothy about this. It's like, It's not football. It's kind of like baseball. Like it's not baseball and it's not basket. Like it's baseball. It's a totally different thing, but it's coming up in a couple of weeks. They got a big platform. They got a ton of money behind it. And so if you need something to watch on Saturdays here coming up for the next month and a half, I think there are worst ways that you could spend your time. So, you know, they're, they're trying some new stuff. So that's kind of where we're at. I want to get into the rules with Paula and everything, but like, It's definitely not going to be for everybody. I want to discuss this investment thing. And I have concerns. I do have concerns. And I talked with Patrick, so I have some, hopefully some answers. So yeah. So the teams they announced yesterday that you can invest via this reputable, like Republic, whatever website. You can invest and it's. It's 3% of these teams. So the bees, while they says Apres and the glacier Boyz. Who's SAC and they're, they're valuing these teams at seven and a half million a piece. And then 3% of that they're making open to, you can invest like $100 or $1,000 as a, as a, you know, as an individual that you can have a piece of the team. So, so Paul, what say you to that? Are they in trouble? Are they in financial trouble? Is that your thought? That's my question. So I'm, I'm gonna say no. And I, and I know what that looks like, and that is what I've heard from other people too. I do believe this has always been, been part of the plan. I think, I don't know why they waited until so close to the season two to announce it right, because that the window for investment is I believe it's 92 days from today. And so that puts, you know, they're trying to get people in. And so that puts you well past the first season of this, you know, of this league. But, but I did some research this morning and I have all the investment pages out. So so far the bees have, and this is every recording. They have 91 investors to the tune of $34,500. The zapper is at 37 investors at the tune of 12,700 glacier Boyz have 42 investors, 12,000, and then the wild ACEs have. Sorry. I had my thing all scroll down 71 investors for $24,000. So we're, we are not talking. Jump changer. No, not at all. I mean, you know, maybe, maybe the point counterpoint to my question is it's only 3% of the teams. It's only like, it's not that like they're putting up 50% of the teams for people to buy. It's only like a 3% thing. So I'm wondering if they're just. I'm wondering where the capital's going with the raising from this. I wonder why they need this, this money. Maybe. And maybe, maybe it's just me being too skeptical. And that that could be potentially what it is. It's it's a mirror. A mere 3%. It's not like it here. You know, offering more than 10%. I don't, you know, It'd be curious to be curious to know where the capital's going, that these people are investing in these teams. That's all. Yeah. My, my biggest thing and Patrick really wanted me to nail cause he misinterpreted something. I, you know, cause I'm very excited that if you're into this league, we will not be investing. I feel like. As it honestly, besides anything else as an independent media operation that we are, I honestly like we should not be investing in 18 as if it's a thing that. And I, you know, like I put up a tweet of mine. If mural comes on, the coward comes on, I'll invest. I gotta, I gotta pull that back because I just, you know, we bring up a valid point that we can't do. We can't invest in this thing. Yeah. I mean, just like, honestly, I mean, besides anything else we ever, but if you're, if you are excited about this, believe me, Mark Hass is nothing but live. But anyway, Patrick misinterpreted something that I tweeted and he goes, he messaged me. He goes, well, are you using negative about this? Or you seem like, are you saying that people? And I said, Absolutely not. I said, you know, If people are excited about this and they want to be a part of this. I know that Matt, one of the guys that works for me. That turned us onto the whole fan controlled football. He has invested in the wild ACEs. He is very excited. Patrick wants people to know that it's not like green Bay. It's not like a certificate. Okay. We own part of the team. This is a real investment. My question to you is if it's 3% of the team, so let's say there's 10,000 people, they all donate or whatever, or not donate, but you know, buy-in. So of those 10,000 people or 5,000 people or 42 people. Owned 3% of that. So it doesn't that get diluted? I don't know how investments work. Okay. So basically. They're saying 3%. Let's let's do let's. Let's let's try to boil this down. Let's say there are. At 3%. Let's say there are. 1 million shares of the, of the crappy glacier boys. There are a million shares of crappy graceful replace your boys. 3% of a million shares is do the math, do the math, do the math. 30,000 shares. 30,000 shares. So what you're basically doing is you're like, okay, 30,000 shares are available. And they're priced at $50 a share. So if you donate $100, you're basically getting. Two shares. If you give, if you give $1,000, you're getting 20 shares and that's how it's boiling out. So it is diluted in a percentage way. So the more you invest into it, The more you technically should get back. If there's a profit. How are they going to calculate profits? Well, and that, that was my thing. And I actually did do a bunch of, I really tried to read through all the pages and stuff today about everything. They, they claim that. So the pages, basically, it, it kind of works like ACS. If you ask on the Republic investing page, how do I get my return? And they, it links you to this. What our membership unit slash interests in an LLC. And so basically the idea I think is if they ever sell it, but I don't think they're ever selling it. So I don't know how you get your return. I asked Patrick, he said that. I said, well, do they get like a share of the merchandise? Do they get a sheriff? Money that way. And he goes, yes, they will. So maybe they're still working on those. Things, but again, you know, 10,000 people or 5,000 people have 3% of a, of a t-shirt sold. I mean, I still think it might not be a ceremonial like certificate like green Bay, but it does feel a little more that way than something where you're going to get money back tomorrow. If that makes sense. Correct. You know, there's there's they probably just working out the kinks here and there. So games are going to be Saturday at 5:00 PM and 6:00 PM Eastern. The wild days are going to take on the crappy glacier. Boyz first apparently is the first game. First game at glacier Boyz are going to be the first. Oh, and one team and that finger troll. History. So I think that that is, that is exciting. The I, the other thing, they added all the rules, all the rules, all the rules, all the rules. And so if you go, Mmm. Vince awful ball scout on Twitter. He was on last week. He has, he kind of broke down a lot of the rules. He's got, you know, the length of the rule book. You can go to the fi fingertip football webpage. Some of these rules, there's going to be no backup. QB is that the second quarterback drafted per team each week is going to have to play every third possession. That's that struck out to me. We're not going to go through all these rules, but that's they got to me. What do you think about that? It's kind of like the hockey thing where it's like, you, you can only use your hockey goalie. Like I think every three games than in the fourth game, you have to switch out goalies, unless there's an injury issue. That's kind of like that kind of issue. So I liked that idea. I like that idea a lot. We've already known this. There's no punting. There's no kicking. There's no field goals. There's nothing. And there's no special team kicking at all. You're going to get the ball, you know, like at the 10 yard line and then go, the interesting thing about that is for extra points. It's going to be, again, this is why this isn't going to be for everybody, but it's going to be like, A center, a QB, like, yeah. The fence, and then there's going to be like a wide receiver. I there's gonna be like five or six players on the field and it's going to be like a, like a bonus. You have to get the ball on this point or whatever. And, you know, you're trying to like get, get, you know, get the past and to get at one point they does that make sense? How I'm explaining it? Does. If you go from the five, it's like a two point conversion, no matter what, but if you go from the five it's one point you go for the 10 tenure line. It's two points. The thing with a lot of these rules that I voiced concerned about to Dorothy yesterday. Cause I told Patrick, I said, I don't have a problem with this investment thing. I do. I do think people are going to have a problem with some of these rules. The XFL when they came up with their rules. You know, 25 second play clock is supposed to 42nd play clock. You know, the, the kickoffs being different. These are things that they worked on for months and months and months, and months and months. You know, they worked with it with the spring league, they worked with it with your call football, they worked with it with the training camps. Months went into figuring out, okay, how are we going to take a 42nd play clock and take it down to 25? Cause he bank okay. That's a really big deal. Right? And so I look at some of these rules. Yes, we're where they're going to spot the ball. It's going to be a running clock. There's no punt. So you can like flip the field to give the team the ball going the other way. If you don't get, you know, if you don't get all the way down there, you know, the onsite kicks are going to be voted on. There's a lot of these things. A delay of game. There's no delay of game penalties. But if you fail to snap the ball prior, too many times, then the league is going to have this in public disciplinary measures for you. Right? Like some of these things I'm like, this is this a lot of different changes where I feel like, like I got back to the. The basketball, like at the beginning of that movie, do you remember basketball? Yep. And they're like, Oh, well, that's not how that works. Cause this is this I'm going to do this. That's a little bit what it feels like they're going to be, you can do things on social media during the week to get an extra time out for your team. That's a big deal. Things like this are not these aren't minor tweaks, right? These are like moving the goalposts for lack of a better analogy. In terms of like, like the Johnny Manzell thing, like they said, no franchise players and all of a sudden there was franchise players. They keep changing the rules on the fly. Next thing, you know, people are gonna be seeing Steve Perry at each other and spitting water out. It just, I mean, I, again, it's not going to resemble football. And I guess that's my thing. Cause I was talking with Dorothy. This, maybe it didn't need to be called fan controlled football, maybe needed to be called fan control, squash ball or whatever you wanna call it, you know? Huh. Something different. Yeah. You know? Poop stain ball. I don't know. That's dirty. Yeah, the poop main bowl and not to, you know, but like to call it because when you're calling it fan controlled football, My fear is people are going to turn on this show on Saturday, February 13th and go, I don't know what this is. Yep. I'm not saying it's not. And people do that with which McCall it, people do that with what they did that with arena football, like what is this? It doesn't look like football, even though arena football closely resembles football more, more closely resembles football than what we're seeing here. People were kind of intrigued by that. Well, this isn't really football. And I think, yeah. If this had been more like arena football, I do think it would have been maybe a little bit more. Accessible. I just, that's my fear. I don't know who this is for you. Vince alternate. Football's got, you know, he's, this is a guy that he thought this league was designed for him. Really is doing all the stats and everything. He is a little turned off by some of this, right? He goes, obviously I'm still in it for the players, but you know, they're talking about micro-transactions and pain for power ups and getting things online during the week. And can you vote and take away a, down from another team and can you have the extra time out all of these things? I don't know who this is for. At that point. Yeah, this is. There's so many questions. I don't know. I don't. You know, there's so many questions. I mean, you know, and, and again, it's fine. And I think it's, I mean, I'm going to watch it. We're going to cover it. I think it's going to be, I'm not saying it's not going to be fun and good and whatever, but this is definitely like alternative, alternative football thing versus like the XFL. Speaking of events, he broke. He broke down all the rosters for anyone interested. You can just go to his Twitter. What is his Twitter account? All football scout report on Twitter. He's got breakdowns of every single player on the league, like their whole history, like where they played high school, where they play college, all this different stuff, all the stats, everything else. A couple other things we can get rid of some of this stuff. They, they announced the hashtags. We had tied her up on that. What do you think zappam for the zappers ACEs wild for the wild ACEs iced out for the glacier Boyz and then a beast mode beat down or beast mode be at downwind. Hell. Hell I read it when it that's the worst one. It's just, it's so wordy, like zap him ACE. And maybe there's just s**t. It should have gone with ACE as well. The VA's as wild. Yes. Some of these hashtags are a little bit wordy. You know, you want something concise and quick. As your hashtag, so Zappa nice. That works. The ACEs wild and beast mode beat down is a little bit too many words, but yeah. You're using those Twitter characters. You've got to have a nice short and I short hashtag. They did, apparently this is according to fingertip football news. I haven't heard this from the league. He did say there was a positive COVID case in the bubbles. Close contacts had the quarantine, all the other players have been practicing. Again, I haven't seen anything from the league, but fan controlled football news. That's another Twitter account. Came out with that. And, and that's interesting, you know, I mean, it's going to happen. It depends on how they, you know, handle that, but that is interesting that they had a COVID outbreak that way. Yep. And today, I guess there was another combine. Am I reading that correctly? This is, yeah, sorry. Today when I posted it on here a couple of days ago that they're still, there's still. People are still trying out for this league. Right. Which. You know, again, w. With these, with the rules and the large scale changes to the game. You know, February 13th is, is, you know, 17 days away or whatever, right. I mean, we got the super Bowl's in 10 days and then another seven days, you know, 16. So I got 16 days as of that. Thing dropping this episode dropping, but yeah, you're going to be bringing in new players. They have to be quarantined. I mean, there, there are many, many moving pieces on this right now. And especially with the investments. I mean, I'm just surprised all this is coming out in January. Yeah, me too. Interesting. And, and I'm, I'm now like I'm trying to process all the changes they've made to the rules and everything. It's it's like, this is not resembling what I think is going to resemble what I first. You know, was told about it. And I think that's, that's probably like I'm, I'm in a space right now. I'm in like a zone right now and I'm dazed out because I'm just trying to process everything. Yeah. I mean, I do, like I said, we're going to watch it. I do think it's really hard to wrap your head around a lot of this stuff. I'm just going to watch it cause like theirs. Is going to be all this fan voting and they're supposed to be a bunch of different Twitch shows and things that are coming out. Like they got the schedule, they released again, they released all this stuff. It's all on the website, fingernail football, but they released like. Yeah, Monday, they're going to do behind the scenes thing. And Tuesday, they're going to do a thing with the coaches and Wednesday. They're going to get there. I mean, there are really like going all in. They've built a set down there. They've got the arena. I mean, There's no shortage of ideas. I just don't know if we needed all of this. The first year. Yeah. Hmm. Yeah. Last thing. And then we gave her all this other stuff. They did release a new merge. They got hats. They have, you're happy about that. I want a different, I have a problem with the hat I they're they're releasing. A gaming chair, right? Like, cause it's a gaming league, right. So I will say, I'm not going to advise you to invest in any of these teams. If you're going to spend $450 on the gaming chair, I would rather buy three shares of literally any team than a $450. Other gaming chair. No offense, or if you're, if you're gonna, if you need really, you really want to spend four and $50 invest in like crypto, like doge coin. I had to plugged up there. Yeah. Is that how you say it? Doge? Okay, big proponent, a doge coin. It. It jumped dramatically today. So Reid has some doge coin. I have some noise going. We're very happy about that. Yeah. I think that's it. Sherman finally was promoting. We're gonna, we got Greg here, right? We're going to plug him in after this. So we're going to ask Greg about a lot of this stuff. He is. Waking up, isn't the right word, but it seems like he is trying to kind of rally some of these teams now and calling that, Oh, here he is right here. All right. Just talking about him. He's got his XFL shirt and everything. 1.0 shirt too. You know what it is? You know, it is never forget. Come on. He came to me, I went to, I went to three out of five Chicago enforcer live games at soldier field in Chicago. I know you're kidding me. I think I got ready to have this stuff. We don't even need to edit the episode. This is. Just popped in as I live in breathe, Greg. Himself. I'm so excited. I am a long time, really a long time fan here. I'm very genuinely excited that you're on here. Thank you so much. Oh my God. Read. Thanks so much for having me. Thanks for having. You appreciate your time. Definitely taking some time out from the busy schedule. How's everything going so far for you? I want to ask how are you doing in the pandemic? Oh man, the pandemic, you know, I forget who I stole it from now from being on a kind of funny show, but grading on the 2021 curve, I'm doing pretty well. You know what I mean? Like we're all in the same boat. I think with the pandemic of, you know, as soon as it started, my wife, Jen was like, humans are the most adaptable, but what it means is that you adapt so quickly, you don't have time to think about it. And so it took me a long time in 2020 to be like, Those days, ride, wake up angry and I'd be like, Nothing is wrong. Like I'm having a great, everything's going to jobs green. I'm going to play this game while, Oh, I'm angry because my year's been stolen from me and it's EV but it's that thing where everyone's a year got stolen from him. So you kind of check those feelings that Joran, you don't process them. I think the appropriate way, but overall really well. You know what I mean? We've been very, very lucky that we're able to pivot the business. You know, me and my wife are healthy, you know, everything's been going fine on that front. Yeah, because I mean, so much of what you guys do is, you know, digital, online streaming and all these things. I mean, I would have to think of anybody to be set up to, to thrive in the pandemic. You know, someone that's doing. Everything virtually like this we'd have to be, you know, it's still difficult, but less so maybe totally. I mean, for me it was, you know, I think I would like to think all the listeners and viewers are on the same page, but like, I was definitely naive at the start where my concern was that. Oh, my gosh, like. If you're worried about your job, if your server, and you're losing your hours, if your place of businesses being closed. But as I was concerned, we were going to see Patrion numbers, which is our crowdfunding platform drop. I was considering what you're going to see viewership fall away, because I know that like, Our podcasts and videos are distraction content. It usually, you know, you listen at work on your driver, your commute. And when you screw up in the routine, Things have to fall away. And so I was really terrified as it started for our job in business. Thinking that was going to happen, but it was actually the opposite and people flock to it and found more comfort. And people came back that had been, you know, it had gone the other way, where they're routine that changed the Adam listened to us or wash this and years they came back because they wanted to be around their best friends. And, you know, suddenly not having someone at work or say, go get a beer with, to talk about video games. People wanted to come back to people they knew would be doing that. Very interesting. I remember cause I, I had, I worked in news for a long time and I had quit my job and we're starting to my video company right around the same time you guys all made that first leap to patriarchy. I remember thinking like, Oh, you know, we're over, I did feel, you know, as a listener, right. Like, you know, we're kind of in this together. Right. Let's see. And then, I mean, th the success you guys have had, I mean, from an outside, you know, I obviously know all the, whatever, but I mean, truly astounding, right? Did you ever anticipate anything as big when you guys were trying to figure out what you were going to do next under no circumstance? You know what I mean? I, the thing I learned really quickly was we had no idea what we were doing in a good way, where it was, you know, when we left, I remember leaving IGN to start kind of funny. And, you know, Kevin Coelho who had been working with us at IGN and he was Tim's lifelong friend, but even helping us on off hours with kind of funny when we were still doing it as a side project. And so when we left, he stayed at IGN and we were like, listen, man, like. Give us a year, give us a year to get going and we will double back and we will hire you and it'll be great. And it was a month and a half where we were like, we can't do all this work and there's enough. There's enough support right now we have enough to bring him on part-time, let's get it going. We're able to bring him in and never lose him. And I think, you know, it's the same way of like, I remember thinking, you know, we started a spare bedroom and okay. We'll get our own space. Maybe two years, maybe four years. We did that at a year and a half where we were like, we will murder each other. We have to keep working at it as a spare bedroom and you went and got it. And now you look at us, right? And then, you know, we're celebrating our 60 year. This January. And, you know, we're 11 full-time employees, a slew of contractors that are both part-time hosts and graphic producers and editors and all these different things like it's above and beyond my wildest dreams. Very cool. Congratulations on all that. And on top of that, I own a football team. We want to bring you in to talk about. How did this all get started for you getting involved in this? Sure. So have you guys talked, has Pat been on the show yet? He's been on the show yet. Like DS is a lot, like you read where he was a kind of funny best friend. He was an old IGN listener. Like he knew me through that. And I would have been game awards to cheesily wes' 2018. That sounds right. Oh game awards. Back maybe 2017. It doesn't matter. At a game awards, he came up to me beforehand. It was like, Hey, I'm a huge fan. I've listened to your stuff forever. And I had my own battle with cancer recently, and I found a lot of solace going back and listening to your content about your struggle with cancer. Cause if you didn't know, in 2012, I had Hodgkin's lymphoma stage two. And had to go through that. And I went through it very publicly and shared my story. And so we had that moment, like, there's a thing I find with people who are going through cancer have done it, or somehow involve me in their story where like, there's like everything fades away. It doesn't matter where you are. You're on the [unknown]. Three show floor. We had that moment and we were like, all right, cool. And it wasn't even about his career, what he was doing. He didn't pitch me anything. And then a couple weeks later in January, he was like, Hey, you know, I didn't say anything then. Cause it wasn't on my mind, but I've been thinking about, I can't get the idea out of my head of you joining this thing we're going to do. And it's fan controlled football and there's some Pete and I went okay, right into the archive. I'm not going to respond to this email. Whatever, what is this guy trying to sell? But it was the strangest thing of all day long. I kept coming back to that doc coming back to that thought. And so like nine 30 at night, I opened the computer and read the entire thing and read the PDF. And I emailed Nick and Tim, my co-founders and I was like, Hear me out like this sounds crazy, but I don't think it's a pyramid scheme. This sounds like it might be awesome and that it could really be goal. And so we started taking meetings and you know, his passion is infectious and when he talks about it and explains it. It really got rolling. And for me it was answering the questions and I guess, problems I had with professional football where I love pro football. I really do, you know, again, a Chicago bears fan XFL fan. And like the reason we got into the XFL was it was affordable. We were in high school, you know what I mean? It was the first time we could get tickets to go to soldier field where we could tailgate without our parents, where we get out of all of these experiments. Right. They actually cared about you there because they needed fan so desperately as time. And so. Jump ahead here to, you know, now 2021. But when I was talking to [unknown] about it, like you're talking about shorter games, you're talking about faster football, you're talking about interactivity and you know, I've, I'm famous for video games. And what that means in my daily life is that. When I'm watching a movie with my wife at night, I'm always like, I can be enjoying it no matter what, but I'm always going to set the watch. Like how much time am I going to get the game tonight? How much time am I actually going to get to do? And so the interactivity of it, of calling plays and doing this thing, that was exciting. The fact that games are just an hour, that was exciting. Cause like I watch, I used to go to the sports bar every Sunday here in SF, go watch the bears play. But when I started dating Janet, we were a long-term and she was in Montreal and it was, you know, she'd come to visit and then two weeks later I'd go up there. The last thing I felt like doing with the limited amount of time we had was dragging her to the sports bar or in Montreal going to the sports bar. And so I w I, all of a sudden it was pretty much cold Turkey and wasn't watching NFL games and it just became too long for me. And it became too expensive and a lot of ways, right? Like NFL direct Sunday ticket. I did that for a long time, but when I was at using it and actually benefiting from it, I kind of fell off. And so all of this, of it being faster football. Of it being something you're interacting with it's on Twitch. And then the fact of like, for us to own a team, like for my audience, the kind of funny best friends, right. Is what we call it. The fans, like this is exactly what we do. I want to have these moments. I want to cut the promos on the glacier Boyz and have them all in on it too. And joking around. I want to yell at Richard Sherman. Glacier. I was a terrible, by the way. Terrible. What a terrible name? Why the Z? Who are you trying to impress? No. Oftentimes Utah fans and everything's being in Utah, I'm telling the truth. So, yeah. How did that pitch go? I mean, did they, did they tell you we're going to have Marshawn Lynch going to have all these other guys? I mean, did you. I mean, or. Or how did that go? Right? Cause I mean, if you guys were, were your, I think, you know, and you've talked a lot about this on Twitter this week, even with all the, you know, the, getting people to follow everything, but like, yeah, that's right. Or don't forget everybody FCF while this is the most followed FCF account of all time. I of course, but you know where, where you guys, you know, people might look at like all the team owners and they go, yeah, maybe Greg and they then don't fit, but you actually are like the perfect fit because of what you've been able to do with your online audience. Right. Yeah. And that was, I knew my part from the start, right? Like my love of theatrical or whatever you want to call it, that I do on the internet. Right. Stems very much from WWE. And that means that, like, I know that I play the heel and I know what my job is. Right. And it's to put the faces over and to have that. And so when they approach it and explained it to us and it was gonna be an interactive thing, it's going to add to it. I was like, Oh yeah, my audience loves like, we'd love. The good natured, giving each other s**t. Right. We love being the heel. We love doing that. They get that. And so we'll be able to bring that to it and have that authentic audience that is on the internet. Cause that's the thing I. You know, again, Quavo a Marshawn, Richard, like they are actual celebrities, right? I'm an internet celebrity, which means two bucks will get me a cup, a cup of coffee. Right. I, I, I'm not a big deal, but I have this fan base that likes to do the same stuff. It relates hearing about the same stuff I do. And so. When they approached us, it was very much, I think they had, they had Marshawn. I remember cause it was, he was local and they were trying to get us into a meeting that never happened, but they wanted us to grab lunch before everything exploded. And. It was that idea of like, we're bringing you in because we know your audience is active and you understand the digital side of the space. We're going to have plenty of guys that know the sports side of it. Right. You know, Austin Eckler is. Co-owner on the wild basis. And like, that was definitely a move of like, we'll bring in a real football player and he will be there like today, we, him and I were texting about like, what, how do you want to use these franchise tags? What do you want to do on? And I was like, here's what I like, yada, yada, yada. But I'm also like, you're the actual guy who knows what's going on. So you tell me if these are stupid ideas, because I'm very much thinking of the hashtags and I'm very much thinking of what's going to happen on the other end, a podcast. And so that's the marriage of it. I think where it is that, yeah, I know that I'm going to go out there and pump the wild, they span account up because my audience is there. Right? Like. It's [unknown]. Those audience on Twitter and read it all day long. Probably not, but mine is, and we love doing this stuff. Because I, that was my biggest, one of the biggest questions this week. We've been covering this since the start. One of my, one of the guys that works for me, Matt, he listened to you guys. And, and so he kind of turns us onto this fan control, you know, cause we're XFL and whatever. And so we've been following the whole time, but it is this mix of, you know, you have these mega mega names, right. But they're not. Like, what is Quavo doing? What is Marshawn? Yeah, we've tried to get mural on the podcast for months. Right. Howard he's a coward. And so, but you know, finally, you know, getting people, like you said, it is that mix where we might not be that the biggest name in the world, but your fan base is more passionate than anybody else's. And I, you know, I always point back to like, you know, this I'm used to this underdog role and I always go back to, you know, I, you know, I throw it around in a joking sense, but in real sense, I want to gain more word, right? I wasn't trending game of the year 2015, which was a fan voted award in which I was up against Pewdie pie. I was up against Markiplier. I was up against people who are far bigger deals in streaming and YouTube than, you know, what kind of funny is we're a very interesting. Half editorial, half, you know, kooky, crazy people who are doing whatever the hell weird thing we want to do. And so. In our first year when we were the smallest, right. We were able to win this award from two of the best names, biggest names, because I went on a podcast, I went on Twitter and I said, Hey audience, like this matters to me. I'd like to do that. And this audience was like, we got you. You know what I mean? We will set reminders on our phone to vote every 24 hours. We will tell our family to vote for you. They will, like, there were campaigns that people who did it and they stuffed the ballot box in a way that was able to, in my sphere, shock the world in a way that I shouldn't have one that I remember going to the game awards that year. And people were like, Oh, are you covering it? And I'm like, no, no, I'm actually up for work. Oh my God, who are you against? And I was like, Pewdie pie Mark by like, Oh, well it's cool. Just to be nominated. Like no one there thought I was going to win it. Let alone on the internet. And that's where we are now, where it's like, You know, there's these four teams and they have all these great names and great heads for football, obviously. But in the same way, you'd say any given Sunday, right? Any given Saturday night, like it's about who's calling the plays and what's happening out there in the combination we got from the Wednesday draft and what we've been able to figure it out from there. And so. I don't think there's so much heavy lifting on us actually. Be calling the right plays are doing the right thing. Cause we're just out there to be a vessel to get the tail and on a different level and show them in a different way. Are you concerned maybe with some of that. I don't know how, how ex expert you are when it comes to calling plays. If you play Madden, you call plays. Things like that. Do you play Madden? Ah, are you concerned maybe that there might be some fans that might call plays that might go against you? Right. Harmed them. I think again, and I'm knocking on wood here, right? What we have going for us is the unity of it. And because I think the way we I've been pitching it to the wild beast fans with a kind of funny audience, right. Is like, this is another way for us to hang out on a Saturday. So I really do feel for our team. The lion's share of viewership will be on our coast dream. So I think of it is us doing that. And it is me texting with Austin. He'd be like, dude, call this play right now. He's hot. The coverage is beat. I can say, Hey, everybody vote for the fourth player. Vote for this play. This is the one we want to run right now. And I think that will actually show in the numbers then that we'll have enough to go. Cause I think. So many of our audience. Members don't care about football, but they do care about hanging out and they do care about me talking trash and they do care about the costume I'm wearing or what Nick's going to do. Like they care about the panache. And so if I have them there with their app open and I can be like, Hey, go do this, go do it in terms of calling the wrong play. Now, like I was joking around a yesterday, right? Like. Since everybody's making the playoffs. I kind of have this like half idea of just like, what if we call the worst place for the entire regular season, we just get there and then we really go crazy. Then we really come out and let the players play. Where does, and I've always been curious about you guys specifically, you know, this devotion and the fan base and just the, the care that your listeners instead of having, I mean, w what do you attribute that to? Is it just. I have no idea. I mean, I attribute it to like, you know, I, again, if you never heard of me and you don't know anything, I was saying, I say kind of funny best friend. And I know that from a blanket statement, if Coca Cola showed up, like Coca-Cola best friends, he's like, Oh my God, what a bunch of marketing drink? The Kool-Aid stuff. For us, it's true because I've called who my audience that forever, like it goes all the way back to GameCube in 2000 IGN games, give a, you know, the game of, I guess, 2009, I guess it would have been right where. I remember for the first time breaking down in tears, on a podcast. And I was talking about the fact that I was getting divorced and I remember stopping in the middle and I'm like, I for the record, I'm not crying about the relationship. I'm getting choked up, trying to tell you how you listen or how much you mean to me. And that was where I started going to phrase that. If you listen to this, if you listen to me podcast or watch a show, you're my best friend, because I write and speak about games in the same way. I used to tell my best friend PO back home, when he'd come over, he was never, he liked games. Even love him. He'd come over and he'd see me playing a game. Like, so what's the story with this one, right. And I pause it and I turn and I'd lay it all out for him. And that's how I wrote reviews and that's high podcast. It, but. The thing about podcasts, as I'm sure you all are well aware, like. You show up for the content and maybe add at 75% of it. But the other 25% is, Oh man in the water heater broke last night and Jen did this and Oh, you know, my mom's in the hospital. And yet people become part of your lives in a way that I always said. You're my best friend, because you hear more about my life and know more about what's going on in my day to day, then my family or real friends do, because when I call my dad on Sunday and we have that, you know, 30 minute conversation on the catch-up, he's not getting the nitty gritty moment to moment that you get from it. And so that went all the way through where I shared, you know, not only my opinions about video games, not only the highs and lows of covering games and cool trips are lame things or, you know, bad review embargoes, but it became personal achievements and personal struggles and all these different things to the point that I don't think people don't. You can get a video game opinion anywhere people come to kind of funny because they know us and it is about talking to your friends again. And it has the, when you guys got involved in all this where people excited, I mean, genuinely cause, you know, and I want to talk to you too about th the, the investment thing that they sure that's what the team's back. Did you feel that energy, that people were excited about it more than just, Hey, Greg says we should do this. I mean, there are people excited about the league. It was. Yes and no, there were, it was, it was hot and cold. There were definitely the audience members who, soon as I did it and I was like, I'm going. Cause I remember at that time, Mike Tyson was involved and it was like, I'm going to be cutting promos on Mike Tyson. And people got that. They were able to wrap their head around it. But then there were people riding through, like, I don't care about football. Like I don't want it. They were concerned that the entire show, all the stuff we did was going to turn into football. They were in, they were concerned that, you know, since we get so much crowdfunding money that we had put their money into this and this wasn't what they were paying for. And we had explained very. It very plain terms, what the ownership agreement was. Right. And all these different things like. Our audience. Loves us and our audience trust us, but that isn't blind, that isn't blind faith. That is that we have to justify our decisions and talk to them. And so like, you know, again, where I think. It made so many moves is in, towards becoming an actual fabric of kind of funny was, you know, that Patrick was down to do it the way we do everything. And what it was is that I told everybody for a week, we had a weird to do a press conference, had a big announcement. We opened today. It was me on a single shot. I explained we were buying, getting a football team. I explained what is going to be. And then we went wide and Patrick was there and we answered the Twitch chat. And that meant we answered the people who were super excited. We answered the people that weren't about it. And from there we've continued that exact line of questioning, right. Where like, even with the. Me trying to get the FCF a while basis Twitter account up. Right. I was very Frank I'm like, listen. If you don't care, please just follow in, mute the account. Like, that's all I need from you. I just need to follow him. People resonate with that. And I think obviously this is so different and so unique that it really will come down to February 13th. You know, the game starts and we're doing it. And even when we're doing it, and it is me and Nick joking around about something, you know, it's still paying attention to the game, but not hanging on every word, hanging on every PO Oh, I'm voting. Okay, cool. Back to what you're saying, like, I think people are going to get a bit more of what we're going for with it. Yeah. Oh, sorry. Because, like you said, where you guys are so much crowdfunded, right. Where it is. People do feel like they have an investment, right. The content. I mean, and that's, I think by design, right? So, yeah. So when I, yeah, you announce, Hey, we're doing this thing. If people don't like that, then maybe, you know, it is, it is. I different relationship where you have with your audience, right. 100%. We, I think you can go look at our videos, right? The kind of funny podcast. And before that, the game over Greggy show and when it was a sports related topic, when it was a sports thumbnail viewership tanks, like people aren't into that, that's not the audience we fostered. And that's a big part of it is I think there was a concern that this would dominate conversation, that this would become a huge thing that it would take away from the content they actually enjoyed when in reality, all it is. It's adding more ways for us to be goofy, adding more ways for me to be weird on Twitter. Going back to the fan controlled football thing. Or you're talking about being, becoming an owner. There's been some rule changes here and there. Have you talked to your other co-owner with Austin? Eckler about some of the rules changes. And what are you guys' thoughts on those? I mean, we solve stuff yesterday, obviously with a website updated, there was a whole bunch of different things in there. We have a meeting, I believe it's next week. And like I said, though, today we were texting. I'm trying to get him over on our podcast. And then we were talking about franchise tags and who are watching where we're getting information, but we haven't gone rule by rule or anything like that yet. Because there's a lot. I mean, it's a ton of staff. He's like, we gotta talk about this franchise tag in them. And I was like, go through Twitter. I'm like, I think we have to now. Because there's like do in here, is that right? I saw somebody tweet about this and tag me in the thing from when they bought their share or whatever. Yeah. What do you that was going to be my next question is, you know, they just announced obviously the investment thing, all of that. What do you think about that? I think it's a really cool idea. I agree with it in the terms of it's what this is all about it, you know, when I talk about kind of funny, when we started on day one, I said, we're not building this for you. We're building this with you, right? Like we're at ground level with you that we're all in this together like that. I think helps set expectations because even now, you know, we're 11 people, but when a decision gets made that people don't like they do think of us. As a corporation or something crazy. Right. Not realizing that again, it's me and my dog in my lap in this. And like, we're just trying to make cool content and like, we, you know, let's have a conversation about this. I think FCF doing that with Republic and having the shares is the same idea where does like, Hey, we're starting from scratch. And you know, the owners own this certain amount of shares per team or whatever you can get in up until this point. You can be a part of that. I think it's a cool idea. Like I think obviously it's. I would be trepidatious about it if I was on the other side right. Of like cool. You know, 150 is the minimum. That's a lot of money. And so it is that. I think it's interesting to see as we run up to it again. And you're, you're asking people to bet on a product. They haven't seen everything I've seen behind the scenes, every, you know, A PDF. I can't share. And every screenshot I've seen of the set or how they're going, or even the building stuff, I think it looks fantastic. And I can't wait to be a part of it. And I think. That fear would be alleviated when we get there, but we're still not there, which is interesting. So the people who were doing it, I was surprised the amount of tweets I got. It's like, I am part of the holidays and I'm like, that's awesome. And I think if anything. It serves to me is more motivation. Because I don't wanna let them down. I don't want this thing to fail because I could've tweeted more. I could have been more exciting or I could have done more appearances. Right. Like I, I carry that on my shoulders. Right. And I do like that. We're all in it together. Yeah, I. And I do appreciate that, that, like you came on and talked to this about this and Oh, You've been the most vocal owner. I think we've seen on Twitter. That's why we kind of like, that's why they brought me in Paul. That. They know, they know that I'll do it. I'll get out there and be like, Quavo. He doesn't even know what the hell is happening. He's a rude awakening when that happened. Well, no. And we're cause you guys are no stranger to, you know, the Patrion and the, and the crowd sourcing. But yeah, I'm looking here on the wild ACEs page. Yeah. 74 people, $24,618. As of recording, like you said, that's no. That's no small amount of money, right. Definitely like people putting their money and investment invests in, you know, I wouldn't be doing this if I didn't believe in it, like I said, you know, I tossed that I archive the email immediately, then went back to it, then had so many conversations with these and. I've been blown away. That every time there is an issue or every time I have a question that not only do I get an answer from the FCF, I get the answer I would've given. And like that, that's the thing for me of why I'm so vocal about it and why I'm so excited about it. Like, I do think this is awesome. I do think like it's a tough road to hoe, right? To be like, we're starting a football league, but I think this has a chance. And I think the more you see people learned about in get into it, The more exciting areas. And I can't believe the amount of people I've told about it, who were like, what are you? So it's mad. And I'm like, no, no. It's like Matt. And like, they're real. Like you have to sit there and explain it. But when everybody has that moment of like, Oh, Like that actually sounds cool. Very cool, Greg Beller I don't know if Rita has any more questions for you. I just said, yeah. I said, just thank you so much for taking the time. Like I said, I've really, I can, I can tell you how many years back, you know, and, and. Oh, eight Oh nine, 10. You're listening to stuff. So I really appreciate getting to chat. And you coming on the podcast and taking the time, it means a lot. When we get going, I got to come back. I gotta come back and talk and talk about how it's actually out there in the trenches. Yeah, definitely. Again, we love your XFL original 1.0 shirt, right. Stories about this because yeah, like I said, like, you know, it was a big deal. Skogen forest was three out of five home games. Don't worry about it, but I'll never forget me and my friends again, the Chicago land area went up to mall of America. It's a visit a friend who was doing a police camp up there. And we went to the mall, were wandering around and we wandered into a sports store. And this is, you know, maybe two years after the XFL had died. And we were looking through all the stuff and we pulled off. I forget the. The. The New York team management, they had a Hitman Jersey. And we pulled it off and we're like, Oh my God guys, it's XFL buck in the owner, literally like did one of these and ran over and he's like, do you guys care about the XFL? And we're like, Oh, we loved. And we went. He's like, hold on. And he came back out with arms of stuff and I got my Chicago enforcer helmet. I got, I had this shirt already. I got my Chicago forces Jersey, like, and it was all like 80% off. Like he was so happy that someone wanted him to care. And I was so thrilled. That's awesome. Greg Miller. Thank you for your time. We'll definitely have you on again, to talk. Once the season gets really in the swing of things. And we appreciate, you know, you being the biggest promoter of this. Hey. I appreciate you guys getting it on the ground floor and talking about it. You know what I mean? Like, that's the other thing too, where it's like, you know, I think the closer we get, the more people get excited, but having people like you that are evangelizing and not even evangelizing, like you are asking you questions, I've seen the show, I've listened to what you guys do it. Like you're asking questions, you're being skeptics as you should, as we watch a league. And this is in like ask for money and stuff like that. Like, I can't thank you enough for actually giving it the time of day. And it's going to be interesting as we keep getting going and gain momentum to see not only your thoughts, but then the amount of people who are like, Oh no, I've got to go listen. Listen to this. Yeah. Thank you for your time. We'll we'll talk soon. Hi beyond before we go. Do you still do beyond? Of course I still do. And you kidding me? Come on now. Don't worry about that. The amount they contact you guys didn't have a good show. Do you want to just break right now? Yep. Well, I say we roll right into that. That was great. No. I mean, we've got to find a way to pop up. Papa commercial though. Cause we went, we went like an hour without a commercial break. Okay. So I love how that just rolled in. And we were just like talking to the commercial, the commercial breaks only for the audio purposes. Not for you, but it's for me. Okay. So I'll just, I'm just going to roll that in. That was so good. That was really good. Greg Miller again. Thank you for joining us. Okay, wait. That was so good. Yeah. We want to thank Greg Miller again for joining us here on the XL Mark cast. Spending, you know, 20, 25 minutes talking about his involvement with the fan controlled football league. And we'll definitely have Mon again, a great, great interview. I guess I I'm a fan. It meant a lot to me, it meant more than talking to, you know, Chad Ochocinco and stuff. So, I mean really as a, as a fan, that was a, that was a big day for me. So. All right. So, no, I guess we get to the end of the, the Mark cast and we're calling this segment officially now, things that annoy Paul. Things that annoy Paul and one, the, the pole at one, the pole at 46.7% of the votes. Dorothy's Mark castaways say Matt came in second. So it is called. The segment at the end of the show is now called the things that annoy Paul at the end of the show. And the reason why they annoy me is because he always says the Google docs, three pages, and almost a page of this is this garbage segment. And I'm like, do we really need this stuff? And that's why it annoys me. That's why the noise it's all gone. It's all gone. You know, one thing that annoys me, you keep talking about young rock. We're not talking about it here. Yeah. So I, I really did. It's it's debuting February 16th. I think. Trailer looks good. Or these excited. I said, we will not be covering this on the show because. I ran a poll. Man of my word. I said, do you want us to talk about this on the show? Yes, no. Absolutely not or what his young rock overwhelmingly now. So I don't want any questions about it. We exist to this people. I know you're going to be tweaked. Like, what do you guys think about young rock? We're not covering it on the show and that is. I'm sure rebill, watch it. I'm sure read I'll watch it. I will not be watching it. I just don't have any interest in it. I just like I watched everybody. I watched everybody hates Chris. I don't watch young Sheldon. These kinds of these kinds of TV shows don't appeal to me. That's why I never had any interest in no, no disrespect to the rock he's done. Great for himself. I just, I have no draw to watch this. To invest the time in that, in the show that, you know, Sometimes might not make it past one season. The one questionable thing about this is he in the show is like running for president. And so I'm trying to figure out, like, is that a foreshadowing for him actually? That's the whole show, right? Is I think he's running for president and doing like an interview about like his childhood. And then we see everything. I don't know. I don't think. So we don't know, we don't need any more celebrities running for president, please. Let's just, let's just have normal politicians. That wall that will, you know, Lie, but not. Why. There's two things on the segment today for real. What did you think of this lion heads coach? Did you hear this? The bar that was sticking out? Talking about their eating their knee cap. The kneecap. And then when they get out, we're going to eat the other knee cap. And then when it came back up, we're going to hit him in the back. And then when they get back up. Did you coach the Mayans? Like you guys have never even been a gap in your life. They're terrible. Why are, why are we. Why are, why are we, why is anyone afraid of you? Right now. And I guess Matth Matthew Stafford is not accountable. That's why he's a he's out. Yeah. What do you think of Stafford leaving? After nine years, 10 years, I think it's it's. I think it's unfortunate. Cause Stafford is a very good core. I think he's a very good quarterback. I just don't think they've ever given him a chance. So yeah, I think it's good for Matt. I hope he gets another start for any of them are the three or four or five years somewhere else and is able to retire a winter eventually. He sold his, his house looks frigging. Awesome. He was selling. So I've been standing here sweating for the last like half hour Greg came on and I couldn't like turn the heat down. I'm finally had the login for the nest account and turn the heat on Jordy has the heats at the 71 degrees. I'm standing in this room. I'm like boiling, alive. Sorry. I was going to have to go like, take a break and go turn the heat down. I'm like dying of sweat. Dorothy. I'm not just flushed from talking with Craig. I'm like literally Jeffrey was that, Hey, we asked the average selling this house. It looked awesome. Has an indoor pool. It has a wine, a wine cellar and all this other stuff. So he's done in Detroit. Another thing. Just the things that Paul is definitely something that annoys me because I don't watch this show. And I'm told all the time by you. By nitty, I should watch this show and I just don't want to do it. I don't want to do it. Although the bachelorette. That girl was cute. Like she was really attracted Taisha. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I was like, okay. And then I realized it was a bachelor. Yeah. So Matt James, the curb acid rain, you know, we, we remember. We fans, a longtime fans of the show will know that we covered the bachelor last season when Brandon silver is the QB of the dragons was parading around the bachelorette under the pseudo name, chase and Nick. I still want to get chased on the podcast. If anyone has any connections at all to chasing Nick, I really, he can not be doing anything. Now. The bachelor has been off for months. He's getting ready for football season. Jason, Nick. If it's, if it's branded silver is the same guy. Oh, I get what you're saying. Anyway, imagine salon the bachelorette. And this was very funny. It all connects. Matt James. Nope. Go ahead. Sorry. We don't need to plant. Matt James was on good morning football. They were talking to him cause he went to wake forest, I guess who also went to wake forest. You're going to tell me, John Wolford quarterback, a F that played for the Rams, right. Sort of wall street. The Wolf of wall street hungry, like a Wolf for it. And they were talking to him about that. And McVay has said there is going to be a very real, this is from big Bay. There's going to be a very real quarterback. Competition going into next year between John Wolford and Jared Goff. What's Jared Goff's contract. What is this contract? 100 million and it hasn't even kicked in yet. It's like four years. So like 25 million a year, it's a, it's a, it's a hefty contract. And I think McVeigh that, that the GM of the Rams was on this week and he said, Jared Goff is a Ram for now. For now. I've very real, John. Wolford hungry leg of Woolford, star of episode 18 or whatever, or 20 whatever of Exela Marquez. Very much could be the starting quarterback for the Rams next year. I'm just saying. A spring football works. That's all I gotta say. Twenty-five million dollar base salary, $5 million signing. Bonus the cap. It would be $34 million. If they were to release Jared Goff. I don't see them paying $25 million for a backup quarterback. I don't. Well, I'm just saying that from the words of Straumann. McVeigh there is going to be a quarterback competition in camp. So what I'm saying. And it really it's. Anyway, Matt James is on bachelor. He was on good morning football. They buried him though. He was in like the third hour. I was like, that is how you know, that's not a hot interview when they bury that in the third hour. It's not really a hot show read. If I'm being completely honest with you on the air for 25 years, Paul. That may be true, but. No, no. Anyway, this is a, there's been a long episode today. I'm going to let you go. I gotta, I gotta, I gotta make a phone call here. Thank you again to Greg Miller and Paul. With everything. I so appreciate that a fangirl football's kicking off in a couple of weeks. Be ready for whatever extra vault news is gonna break today or tomorrow now that we recorded. It's 1:27 PM on Thursday. So anything that happens from now until next week, it's not on the show. Oops. Again, Greg Miller. Thank you. Log on X they'll show.com/review. Leave us a review. Also XML show.com/march. Support the show financially, and we appreciate all you're listening. All your patronage and all. We'll see here next week.

XFL Markcast Episode 24 - The New England Roughnecks? (ft. Jackson “Jerdy” Erdmann and Vince from The Alternative Football Scouting Report)

And we're here with another XFL Mark cast. Good morning. Two things first happy six months. Good morning to you read. Good morning, Paul. Happy six months anniversary on our podcast. This is our way. We're official now. Podcast daily. And for six months. Also, this is the IC. We're not dating. We're podcast daddy and we're, we're like officially, officially, now we can move in together. Right. If we were like, Oh, okay. And then this is the 21st day of the 21st year of the 21st century. I thought that posted on when the episode is airing, but when we're recording this, I've seen a lot of people posting about it on Twitter. Oh, it does. Okay. No, I just, it's just kind of like a weird it's January 21st of 2021 in the 21st century. I know you're big on dates and coincidence is so. You're making little jokes, you're making some jokes. I just want to point out that I know. I share a birthday. With the president. That is official. Is Joe Joseph R Biden. His birthday is January 20th. Yeah. Joseph Robinette Biden Jr. It's a weird middle name. That is a weird middle name. And he's a junior too, which means his dad had that same name. That's probably an old name though. Oh, yeah. Bold like from, you know, wherever Joe Biden's families from one. I want to say this though. I want to say that. Congratulations, Joe Biden was inaugurated. This isn't political. And I think it's in the best interest when Trump was inaugurated four years ago, I was like, okay. You know, I didn't, I didn't pick this one, but let's see what he does. I hope for the best, because if he does well, we do well. Yep. My personal opinions aside. I think the same thing needs to apply here. So let's, let's keep it moving and let's keep it moving with the XML. Mark cast my mind. Yeah. He had a busy day yesterday, right? 78. It's still 78, right? I mean, does he, is he drinking coffee? Is he drinking? Mt. D I mean, I want to know what, cause I mean, I get tired. I couldn't imagine. Yeah. I couldn't imagine. So that's as political as I want to get. I just don't think about that all day yesterday. Just like this, Joe drink coffee. Is he a coffee guy? I don't know. Yeah, I don't know. You know, you watch old videos of Joe back in the day. And he was like a youthful. Snappy guy, like there. You know, there, there are women that I work with at sea, like the old photos of Joe Biden. While he's hot, super hot. So maybe he's still got some of that energy just kind of saves it and got to reserve it for those moments when he needs it. When he's signing, you know, 20 executive orders to undo the other 20 that started, you know, it's just like, Joe. Love it. We're here for it. We'll see what happens. So I, we got a lot of good feedback last week on the podcast. I did my call. I said, I wanted more YouTube comments. We had ton of a ton of YouTube comments. Van the man left down, Jenna left 'em up all has something to say, Jack as Stevens. And then on the contrary, we had a lot of good feedback. So thank you for that. If you're watch on YouTube XFL, share that concept. Should YouTube please subscribe. We get a lot more views than we get subscriber. So I would love to get that subscriber cab. We got a lot of use, but I'd like to get the subscriber count up and then. Paul has a comment I keep, and that's where I'm going to come in and say something right now. We want to get to a thousand subscribers on YouTube. What are we at right now? You don't want to know if you're going to Bassi. Something to entice people with. This announcement right here we are at now. Three. 93 subscribers. So. It's nothing. We are going to start somewhere and I'm not knocking this, but here's what we're going to do. We're going to do a giveaway. Okay. I'm going to, I'm going to do this giveaway. Okay. Once we hit. 1000 subscribers. We will send out to one of you that's subscribed on YouTube. We will send out to one of you. An autographed football from Chad Ochocinco. A friend of the shell. Joe rather the shower. To a thousand and we will pick one name out of those thousand. That's subscribed to us on YouTube and we will send you a judge, judge. Chad. Oh, Joe Synco autographed ball. Does that sound okay? What do you read? I don't know if we start, if we get to a hundred, I'll send somebody a sticker back. Let's start. Let's start there. No. I want a lot of shoot for the stars. 1,000. We're going to send out a chat. A single football autographed. Football to one of our 1000 subscribers on YouTube. I think that's the goal. Okay. I think that's a lofty goal, but I think we could get there. So tell your friends, subscribe to us on YouTube. So you could possibly have a chance of getting this football. I mean, we get the views, we just needed the subscribers. What is this? Scribers we get, we could get there. We have one comment, a fourth man, we were talking and we got more trademark stuff. This week. We were talking about the NFL last week. It was that the Houston roughnecks that you know that the oil tower. He a fourth man said NFL are stupid and wrong for their trademark claim towards XFL. So thank you very much. I encourage all feedback. We had a bunch of stuff talking about how Vince is Vince Mark, and that he definitely. Tweeted our, he definitely texted his catchphrase in the, in the tweet and the texts to Oliver luck. Oh man. What a Mark. And then I do have my, my Jersey that we unboxed last week. Funny enough. Two different listeners, Mark and P Ramirez, both bought jerseys off of the recommendation. They waited for me to take the plunge. What do you think about that ball that we have listeners and viewers that bought jerseys after I bought them, I think the people who are running the XFL really like really need to reassess, like. Reaching out, maybe the us to help with their marketing, because it seems, seems like we're working. It seems like we're doing something right here. We're not just unboxing baseball cards or anything like that. We're doing something right over here on the X of L Mark asked. I'm going to say, I err. Art fire.com. I'm waiting on that commission check. When windows, windows to Chinese knock have jerseys. I, Claire, I'm very excited about that. We had reviewed two. I'm going to pull it up if you want to disband for two seconds. Sorry. Okay, well, totally VAP. Over on exfil show.com/ [unknown]. You'll see a lot of the items are popping back up. We've changed up the logos. There was an issue. And I, I realize this now there was an issue to where. I had changed all the logos out, but our on-demand drop shipper. Wasn't allowing us to add more than two products during the holiday season. All they seen is over with. So we're able to do a mass release of products that are online. XFL show.com/march. And don't forget as well. XML show.com/review. Leave us a review. On your, on your face. Favorite podcast player. Yeah, Alan one nine, nine, eight left-wing today. He is a fellow podcaster and a sports fan. He said he would recommend this podcast to anybody. So that came here in the Apple podcast. We have a really great show today. We have a journey, Jackson, Erdman coming up from a fan controlled football. He's in the bubble right now. I hate burying the lead. Always bury the lede Jackson earned, man, journey's coming up. Right off of his practice. He came home to the hotel room and I hopped on the show. We really appreciate that. And then we have vans from the alternate football scouting report coming on as well to talk about he's covering all the stats and everything with the XFL stuff. He's a brainiac when it comes to all that stuff. So. Brainiac. That's a good, that's a good term to describe it. There's a lot of info there that spends a lot of time on. We're appreciating him coming on and chatting about that. Yeah, so we're going to do all our XFL stuff. And then we're going to get to, we got that big fan controlled football dump, and then not to bury the lead too much. My wife is, is joining us on the show. I probably shouldn't have said that before, about 10 minutes and. I texted van the man, our number one fan last week, I said, what'd you think of the show? He said short and sweet. It was okay. I go via, we had three pages on the Google doc. We went in for an hour and six minutes. You're going to tick Paul off if you tell him. So he said he likes guests. What? We have three guests today. We got journey. We got Vince. And then we have my wife. Dorothy is joining us from school via zoom. We have an unboxing from her. She has a surprise. I literally don't know whether this. Okay. We're looking forward to that. I'll definitely looking forward to having your wife here and joining us on the March house. So stay tuned for that. I guarantee it's probably going to be good. I hope so. I know, I know how clever Dorothy is it? How. Creative. So whatever she's got planned for us or you, whatever it is. It's going to be good. So, well, yeah. Yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to that. It's garbage segment adjacent. So that'll be the end of the show. We'll get into we don't. We don't want anyone to think that it is garbage segment because it's my wife. What's your wife. So would that being said, let's get into the meat of the stories here today on the Mark cast. Yeah, this is, so this just came out yesterday. We had the whole thing last week with the Houston roughnecks. They're the oil tower and the Oilers, the Houston Oilers NFL with suing because of that. And every Wednesday last week they go, Oh, don't worry about it. It's a rough necks. They have the alternate logo and they'll be alternate logo. They can use that. It's totally by, we said that looks really a lot, like the new England Patriots logo. Guess what happened this week? The Patriot suit. Yeah, the NFL seated on the habit, the Patriots again. All of these lawsuits came out like back last December and they'd been extended and extended it and extended, but now they can only extend it like a two or three times. Now all of the kind of asset is hitting the fan. As you could say, And they are saying. That the Patriots did you know, it's the flying Elvis. That's like the official name of the Patriots logo. I did not know that. And then the, the XFL, the ref next one is just knowing that man. So they were not clear as cover. That's great. We said it last week. What do you think? I think that this is definitely a problem. Maybe I'm going to put the logos up right now. So I'll remember that. I'm looking at it right now. Maybe it's not as bad as the oil rigs. That's clear. This one's a little bit. I don't know, like, are we going to be, is this going to set a precedent to where any sports team that has like that half face with a hat on is going to be sued? Is that what we're doing here? Like anything that kind of remotely. You know, resembles the perspective of the Patriots logo is automatically going to be under scrutiny. For having a man. With bold outline and a hat. Cause it's like the jaw thing too. It's a side profile. And then it's like, you get a lot of like, these. You know, straight lines. I definitely see the job thing. And if you look on the, if you look for the New York guardians logo too, even though it's like that Sphinx head, it's a very similar. It's almost like the designer that did it. And I'll put this up too. If you want to look at the New York guardians one, it's almost like, what, what do you always see? I, graphic design is my passion. Like the guy just copy them and change the colors, but I never. It's like, can I borrow your homework? Yeah, you can, but change up a couple answers here and there. And that is it. Then your guardians is the, is the roughnecks, is the Patriots. I don't know. Are there other, I was looking at the other logos. I mean the battle Hawks and stuff, or are there other logos that are in danger? Like the dragons? I mean, does that look like anything? I don't know. I don't think so, but then again, there might be some random like baseball team somewhere. That'll come up and go, Hey, look. Yeah. It's going to be, I mean, I think, I think the XFL is going to have to pay a royalty here of some kind a, the problem is you got two different ones, right? I mean, you got to be, you know, it wasn't like, you can just, okay, let's settle with the roughnecks. Let's use the weatherman thing or whatever. I mean, now that they're having trouble with both different ones, It is interesting that the NFL. You know, I think a lot of people thought they were going to play nice this time, the XFL isn't doing the whole, like anti NFL thing. They're trying to be more of a feeder system and alternative. They have a noncompeting and now it's like, you know, the no fun league is out. Is out for blood. I don't know. Speaking of the no fun league. I think we can. I think we can move on to this story. Chanting Crowder am. Am I saying that right. Yep. Chanting Crowder was on the podcast. Drink champs. Featuring Nori. Nori has a podcast. I don't know who he is. You know who he is, I'll have to school you after. We don't want to get a copyright ding. So I have to school you afterwards. Gary. Yeah, I guarantee you've heard a couple of his songs. You probably haven't been able to tie the artists to the songs. But that being said, He was on their podcast and he was talking about chatting. Criner was talking about. Apparently the rock has wasted his g*****n money with the XFL. Yep. Cause he said that there's no way that the XFL is ever going to compete. Well, the point was that. The XFL wasn't supposed to compete anymore. Yeah. That was what we all understood was just like, Oh, here's more football. Expo one point out definitely was meant to compete with the NFL. We know that they were trying to, they were doing these different things. They put in wrestling angles with Jesse Ventura beef, with one of the coaches. Basically, they were trying to compete with the NFL back in the day, but there weren't, they're not trying to do it now. They're just trying to offer more football. So I don't agree with this at all. Also, I mean, especially this year, if any, with all the acts of all calls we've had, you know, with the hierarchy and everything else. I mean, it just seems crazy to me that, you know, you're kind of like crap talking this and calling it the ways. I mean, their whole reason why all these other guys were, you know, fit the play and in shape was because these, you know, alternative leads existed and that, it just, it seems weird. It seems like you're very bold tag. I mean, I tweeted when I saw it on Friday, you know, I'm glad that I saw this article so that we could address it. But I think that people are still thinking about the XFL 1.0, when they talk about these things and not any of this new stuff. Completely, you nailed it right there on the head, you know, the, the whole purpose. The whole benefit of having an XFL. Now, as you saw the situation and Carolina, you saw the situation with Washington. The these spring leagues. Got these quarterbacks to maintain their shape and conditioning for the NFL. You nailed it. Well, and especially, you know, like where we, you know, we're going to talk with journey later in the show. I mean, A lot of these guys, like make me these leaks to do this. Right. You know, if the NFL and we're going to talk about the combine and all that stuff, you know, the changes with that. I mean, you need to have these other alternate leagues where the guys can get wrapped, stay in shape. You know, obviously you want to get views and all that stuff. And so it's it. It now more than anything, it really shows the need for all these alternative leagues. Yes, definitely. Moving forward though. The combine you briefly mentioned the, apparently that's gonna, they're gonna, they're going to have to do some changes with that. Yeah. I mean, do you think they, I think they are. The feedback I got was they needed to announce this a while ago before, now that we're like out of everything going on. Is that similar thoughts to you? I mean, I thought, you know, it was, it was bound to be coming. I mean, we didn't really, we didn't, we didn't manage to get this under control as well. I mean, the United States only has like 4% of the world's population. Yet when you account for 25% of the cases of COVID, we didn't have this under control at all. I don't, you know, that's not, it's not a political statement. We did not get this under control. So, this is not a surprise to me. It should have been decided maybe six months ago. That this was going on. But yeah, I, I, I don't know exactly what's going to happen, how this is going to work virtually. They're not going to allow, you know, I said, I guess this year, all on-field workouts. We conducted. At on-campus pro days and they're gonna zoom in. So many questions that they probably should have had figured out. Long before now. When does the eye dummy when it comes to all this, like not in the football league stuff. When does the combine usually happen? I want to say March, April. Don't quote me on that. I want to say March if they dress April, right. We do that. It just seems like. Okay. Last year, it was February 23rd to the March 2nd. So. It's about a week at the end of February. Yeah, and I mean, it just seems like. If I, if I was the one that I had just played in the spring league, or if I was playing in the fingernail football right now, I would feel a little bit better about doing those. Right. Just knowing that maybe I have. Some more, you know, I mean, does that work that way? Do they take that tape or they need like the numbers and stuff that they're getting from all of that. Cause I know that they run. Yeah, the combine is different in terms of like they do specific, you. Shuttle run the 40 yard dash. And these are stuff. This is stuff that you can do, you know, basically on campus. And, you know, you could. With the technology the way it is, you don't need to have a combine necessarily. As long as you send someone that is like, I guess, licensed by the NFL to go to a campus. You're limiting, you're limiting the amount of people that are in the area that are actually, you know, cause you don't want to put 80 people in a building in Indianapolis and have potential of a super spreader event. But if you send like an NFL, like representative out to perform the measurements in the engage them. And give you an unbiased reading on these players. This could work if you're just doing it on campus at the different players, with the different players. Yeah, it's interesting. I just think, you know, I, if the XFL ends up dealing this summer summer showcase again, it's just a lot of these guys are going to be going out. It's just, you're cutting the opportunities for them to be seen by people to get out there and network and everything else. And so it's just interesting that I figured that that would probably had something to do with the XFL. I figured that throw it then. I think the there is. Bless you. Awesome. No, I was yawning. It's been well, I didn't get much sleep last night. I think the bet. I think the thing that. Then also kind of affects people is that you have a lot of these people that aren't. Coming out of college that already kind of playing pro ball on some level. And I mean, that's what fan controlled football could. Necessarily provide to you mean, there are things they're going to measure in a combine that are going to give you a like unbiased, how, how this performer can, can perform at a peak level, but you actually have to see them in the game. And there's always intangibles in a game. That's why, you know, robots don't play baseball. Although people believe that robots should play baseball. The way they've gauged these stats these days. Is completely different from when I played. So the combine only measures like one peak performance as opposed to in game situations. And I think that there is. Spring leagues will definitely, definitely could help. Change how we view a combine potentially too. Kind of like your sat versus like actually like your GPA. Yeah. Really nice that you can like really study that. I just know this week I've seen a lot of combine footage cause that Tara Johnson, that the Buffalo bills. A guy that caught the ball and ran it back for the TD. Over the Ravens. He was a guy that got whacked in the head with the football back at the combine and like 2018. I thought, I thought I'm not going to put it in, cause I'm sure I'll get flight, but Google that. I combine head guy. And that was the same guy that three years later ran back to the winning. You know, the game, sealing a touchdown after the Buffalo, against the Ravens last week and the divisionals. Yep. There was an article that was posted here about the timeline and comparing the XFL 20, 22 to the 2020 timeline and people, I guess, seemingly kind of upset. Is that what I'm reading? Yeah. So just a couple of notes on this. Mike Mitchell posted this XML news hub. We always like to share with, you know, There's kind of, one of our websites were affiliated with when they do good work. Mike put together a ton of work talking about the timelines of this year. How everything's going with the X of L versus when they launched their first time. The funniest note to me, if any of this, first of all was, ah, You know, Mike posties articles, everyone shares on Facebook and this, and this guy shares. He goes, well, guess we're screwed for this year. And it's like, we like, wait, well, Welcome to the world. Like XFL was never coming this year. Like Adam. All like, so that, that was first. Obviously it's like people hate reading anything. Right. They just share everything. They don't like, Hey, well, I guess we're screwed. But people, the point is people are really worried right now. They're looking at, you know, I know other XFL podcast look at like, you know, what is happening this week and what happened two years ago? I'm like, it's not the same thing at all. Like red bird has so much money and people behind it and like the rock. Has, you know, a million guys and he can like, they can just go do stuff in Danny. And so, like, I just don't think that we can. Demand compare like the same Vince, like old school family run business, Vince McMahon, you know, a couple of years ago, like in the slow rollout of the XFL. I mean, not that you can snap your fingers and get the league going, but so much of it is already in place with the teams on the logos and the cities and the lease agreements and all this stuff. I know we need the coaches. I know we need the commissioner, but like they're, they're not, they were going to hire anybody in 2020, because they didn't want the debt on the books. Now let's start hiring everyone this year, but if you're not doing the summer showcase till June, why would you hire coaches in January? I just, eh, It's going to take time, but it's all going to be there. I completely agree with you. Completely agree with you and, you know, venture capitalists like Redbird, they don't get in the game of venture capitalists and stay in the game for being unsuccessful. They're successful. And. They, they clearly, you know, they're investing their money and they have some decision making and they want to protect them, but they want to protect their investment and it would be. Unwise just spend money just for the sake of spending money. So people can stop complaining about. You know, Oh, absolutely. Oh, well, they're not doing enough right now. Calm down. Everything's going to be okay. You also [unknown]. They needed a TV deal. That's the biggest thing is once the TV deals come, everything else, if they're still negotiating that. That is first and foremost, more important than anything else is I'm having a good TV deal. Speaking of acts about players in the NFL. This is something that might affect PJ Walker and Carolina. Deshaun Watson has not asked for a trade. In Houston and the team hasn't said, they'll trade him, but it looks like they're going to trade him. You know, that's kind of the kiss of death. He's not happy there. I mean, there's something about being playing sports in Houston that makes you not happy. Like James harden. Who's now on the Brooklyn nets. Shout out to Brooklyn nets. Yeah. I'm sorry. Had to throw that in there. How did he lose like 15 pounds overnight? Oh, dude, I that's a good question. I want that diet. You've seen that. Right. Of course I'm a Brooklyn nets fan. Yeah, of course. I saw it. I want that diet tomorrow. Like seriously have some, I have some serious belly weight. I want to get rid of James harden. What did you do? Yeah. Just drink juice. Salads. What did you do, James? I want to know what James harden did. I'm not fat shaming him. But all of a sudden, like he dropped 20 pounds overnight. Anyway, there's Sean Watson. Did they say that this is according to rap sheet? So it's at least as official as it could be coming from rap sheet, which he's good. He said don't dismiss the Panthers being in the mix of, you know, they talked about the jazz. They've talked about, you know, sending them down there for that for a two. I. They might be sending it to Shannon Watson to the Panthers. Look. First and foremost for all my jets. Fans that are friends. Friends that are fans of jets. What is Deshaun Watson going to do for you when you don't have an offensive line? Nothing. So keep dreaming the dolphins, you know, sending to us and then sending a couple picks here. And there seemed like the most likely possibility, but I know that, you know, outside of a couple players here that are, that have blabbed about two a. The dolphins seem pretty happy with too. So I don't see that happening, but the parents need to do to figure this out. This is like, you're going to have two quarterbacks on your team. That are making 20 million a year. The Shaun's making 20 something million a year or two. Pastor Tate, Teddy Bridgewater. Hey, Teddy Bridgewater. It's clear it's clearly do not like Teddy Bridgewater RPG. PJ Walker. That's why we tied it in case. Why did they pay him $20 million? They don't like him. I don't know. This is insane. Anyway. I just thought that was interesting. And I like to keep an eye on, you know, people think, Oh, PJ signed a two year deal with the Panthers, whatever. I mean, I, there is a lot of talk there about QB is, and if you got PJ Walker, there does not seem like he is long for the world at Thompson. Yep. Moving on to the Oliver luck versus Vince McMahon. Situation. The drama. So bumper unfolding. The court has given both parties till, I guess next week I'll be here. It will be today when the episode airs, because our. Like literally I posted a video. Usually I get up at seven posts, a video, Paul posts, audio comes up online before that. I like 8:00 AM. Every Friday is when they do this stupid lawsuit. So we're all, we're always a week late, but this is what they're going to do this week. Apparently. It's going to be, to satisfy the prejudgment remedy, which is to show that both parties have the assets to pay depending on, you know, who would win. Like all of our log has to prove that he can pay. Vincent man, even though I don't really think all of our luck is, is going to be found. Yeah, I'm not a legal expert, but from what the evidence points out, it doesn't look like all the Lux can be found culpable here. If. A stipulation happens. Before that the case can move to trial, which could take the rest of the year. And if the parties cannot stipulate, then there'll be a hearing Lux still fighting the passcode on the phone. He's moving that he could've been fired for. Cause because he was never. Formally informed of as emissions and actions like being against alpha policy. Like basically he wasn't given like a, you know, like a slap on the restaurant and this is all high. Shout out to Josh Davis. This is all his research on here. I just want to make sure we get proper credit. Josh Davis. Excellent. New South covers all this stuff. But yeah, the luck was saying that he wasn't given any, any prior notice to getting fired and that they can't be wrongful termination. If you weren't given like a heads up. That's a good point. I mean, the normal, you have to have a paper trail. Like that's why people, that's why you get corrective action in a workplace. Is that like, they like to make a paper trail. So you like. Correct. Action. Isn't for you to get your well, it is kind of for you to get your act together. But it's also for the company to be like, okay, we've got a paper trail now that we're starting. So, you know, there was, there doesn't seem to be a paper trail here. Yeah. He also says that the cause was advocated that he denies the tamper with the phone and deleted stuff. That was kind of the big drama right now is he supposedly deleted a bunch of stuff on the phone that was talking about, you know, I don't know why he was doing, but yeah, Vince is, Vince is not happy with that. Interesting. And speaking of all of her luck, I am so happy about this news. Larry Scott has finally been released as the commissioner of the PAC 12 coming in June. I believe it is. And this is long overdue. Larry Scott has bungled everything. When it comes to being a commissioner of this league. I will give him credit. He did expand a two teams. He got the PAC 12, 12 teams to get a PAC 12 championship game, which means more money. That being said. I think Larry Scott was the commissioner who oversaw the bungling of the potential of going to 16 teams that didn't happen. Because of a clause that no PAC 12 team or pack 16 team. Could have their own network. And that was the key sticking point for Texas, Texas wanted to have their own. Specific ESPN like channel and the PAC 12. Wasn't willing to budge on that. So basically also I need to point this out. The PAC 12 network has never been on direct TV. One of the biggest distributors of content. Via cable or satellite DirecTV. If not the biggest. Because it's nationwide, not like, you know, calm, you get Comcast in certain areas and spectrum and other areas. Direct TV goes nationwide and. The PAC 12 network was never on DirecTV. Also another failure of Larry Scott. So one name has been mentioned to replace Larry Scott. Is all of her luck. Yeah. I mean, he's, he's done XFL. He's moving on. He wants his money. You know, we've talked to our score in lever is seeing all of her lock all over ESPN and stuff. I mean, Man's a genius. You know, he knows what he's doing, you know, highly respected. That's why, even when it goes, it comes to this lawsuit. If it does go to a jury or whatever, I mean, You know, you have a lot of the positive feelings about all from like, I feel like that you don't have towards Vince McMahon, but you're excited. I mean, you watch college basketball. I watch college football to, I hope this happens. If all of her luck becomes the commissioner of the PAC 12 lookout, we're going to win. The conference is going to do some things. I'm looking forward to seeing what happens there with that goodbye. Larry Scott. Good riddance. So, yeah. Yeah, a couple more signings here and then we'll get to we'll get there, all that stuff. I have a bunch of future, a bunch of ex NFL guys have been signed a future deals right now. And that's a, we talked about it last week and it doesn't count against anything this year or the numbers or anything, but like Jordan, Tammuz back with the cheese, but that doesn't mean anything right now that, that that's for next year. I know with everything with Patrick. But homes right now with the concussions and stuff. Tom moves back with the cheese and then a good news too. I'm really excited about Josh Johnson is going to be back with the 40 Niners. I know we had speculated when he was on the cobot list. He wasn't cut. We got. Josh Johnson. You know, slap on the wrist about that. He's back with the 49ers. Thrilled about that. What do you think about Josh being back with the 49ers anti-Obama with the chiefs? I think it's great. And you know, it goes to show again the power that. Chatting Crowder's wrong. The rock isn't wasting his money. You're seeing these XFL quarterbacks get good chances that they might not have gotten had it not been for the XML. So happy for Josh. Happy for Jordan. Wait and see what happens. You know, there's, there's chatter that Garappolo might go back to the Patriots. Patriots might be willing to trade some graphics to get him back. Who knows this could open the door for a bunch of different things. So I'm looking to see what happens with this. And then just some other signs. Do you want to run those down just to one side? Lions have signed a Dragon's defensive back, Godwin equipped. I hope I am. Yeah. Steelers signed former expo guardians offensive tackle Jerry Jones, a futures contract. Nick Moore has also signed from the Vipers. Nick Moore has also signed a futures deal with the Ravens. Renegades kicker Austin McGinnis McGinnis signed a future contract futures contract with the Rams for next year. Another kicker, guardians, kicker, Matthew MacLean. And I'm a wild cats. Fullback Johnston features deals with the Cleveland Browns who were on the up and up. Yeah. So they, these are all, basically, it's like getting your foot in the door for training camps and stuff in the summer. So it doesn't mean that they're like for sure whatever, but they have interest in them. They want them to be recognized with that. And so. It's good. It's good. You know, CNN, I would. I guess I would debate right where I'd rather be signed to me now that fell futures or, you know, go with their summer showcase with the XFL. I mean, obviously you want to take down there. You definitely want the future's. So that being said, we're gonna take a break. Come back with Vince from the alternate football scouting report and talk to them about what's going on with Fan controlled football. All right now, we're joined by Vince from the alternate football scouting report. Vince. How you doing, man? Good. How are you? Good. Good to see ya. Good to see you as well. Ma'am it's going on. Well, you know, just plugging through fan. Thank control football kind. Is the focus we wanted to bring you on to talk about that. Okay. Yeah. I was joking that this week we had talked about Vance and a lot of this stuff last week with a lot of the players coming into the bubble and everything. And, you know, Vince was messages. You mean this week about some news. And I said, Hey man, why don't you just, as opposed to me regurgitating all this stuff. Vincent. I got hooked up back with all the spring league staff and then he kind of transitioned now, but people that are listening, if you're into the alternate fan staff, the alternate leagues, like at stats, players, all that stuff. Vince really is a good person. To go to. And so I would definitely recommend the follow on that. I do mean that for someone like work climate. You know, we're, we're like the Mark casting that we talk about, we're kind of the high level stuff. And if you really want to get into the stats and everything, Vince is a good guy to go to. So thank you so much for coming on. I really do appreciate that. Of course, of course, man. Great intro. Thank you. I appreciate that. So, what is your biggest takeaway right now? News in fan controlled football. Cause I got a bunch of notes on the Google doc, but I want to see where you come to first. Oh, I think biggest things everyone's down in the bubble. Now. Everyone seems happy in the bubble now. And that was really a big thing for me. Like, especially when you guys broke. Had Ken Shelby on the show. With everything that Adam would spring league. I know I was really worried that something like that. Happen again, just with COVID or, you know, whatever else happens with these alternate leagues. So I was really, you know, Well, I wouldn't say worried, but I was like a little skeptical. There is something bad gonna happen once everyone's done in the bubble, but no problems. No COVID issues. Everybody likes the food. Everybody seems pretty happy. So, you know, whatever they got going down on the bubble right now, it seems like they're, they they're doing a right. It definitely sounds like that. We've got a journey coming up here in a bit to talk about. Probably we're going to ask him about the food. Of course. As you know, the food as described to us at the TSL was kind of Fyre festival. So we're gonna, we're gonna bring journey on here in a quick second, and then discuss that with him. What are you looking forward to in terms of the product and the interaction with the fans? When it comes to fan controlled football? I mean. I'm really excited to see Quintin flowers play personally as a, as a fellow XFL Mark. I really wanted to see him hit the field more in the regular season. I was kind of confused as to why he wasn't starting in the first place. And the lifelong bears fan. I do not like Marc Trestman. I do not think he was a good coach for the bears. So I have my opinions about him down at, in Tampa Bay. And I felt like, you know, I'll give credit to Cornelius where it's due, because he really did start to turn it around as the season went on, but it was pretty clear to me, especially in that rough, next game. Yeah. Flowers should have been playing more and they didn't play him. And I was upset about that. And then, you know, as time went on, there was always speculation. What guys are coming back. As far as quarterback goes, these would be like PJ sign with the NFL. Tommy would sign Josh Johnson and end up getting picked up as well. So, you know, flowers has really been like the top on the top of that list of XFL quarterbacks. And I was really excited when I saw him pop up for the spring league as well. And when I was looking at all the. The rosters. I was like, [unknown]. Houses are stacked. Like they have multiple NFL experience guys on the offensive line, they got some really good looking, running backs. He got some really good Titans. This wide receivers been on the chargers practice squad for two years. They got to quit and flowers, half those guys didn't even know that the leagues. So, you know, After all of that, I was leaving. I was a little bummed that I still wanted to see flowers play. Cause I think he's one of the best quarterback, free agents out there right now. So when I got wind. That he was signed to the league. I was like, there's no way. This is, this is, this is really happening. Like after all, everything with the spring league, that there's no way he's signed again. And then I just like reached out. So it was like, did you sign FCF? And he's like, yeah. That was it. All right. So. Then for like a month or so I was waiting on them. To like break the news or something. No one ever did. So it was like, all right, well, Here's the news, everybody. You wouldn't capitalize. That's weird that they wouldn't capitalize no one, no one reported that. Yeah. I was surprised, honestly, I, Hey, you know what? It knitted me my first Wikipedia credit. So. I guess there's there's that, but yeah, I was pretty surprised. I figured they would have really marketed that just to XFL fans alike. Hey ex NFL fans, you want to quit and flowers to play. And he did it now. It's your chance to vote, to make him play? You know what I mean? But Hey, Danny, he's there and more than likely he's going to be one of the starters. In my opinion. I think he's going to be one of the starters. I think he's going to have a great season so, well, that brings me, and we've talked a lot about this online. You know, you talked about the marketing and staff. You know, you know, we're getting ready for this. You know that they're in the bubble. There's a ton of money being put into all this, you know, bringing in, everybody's setting up the staff, they're building this. Yeah. You've reported, you know, they're building this stadium thing and they've got the drones and the helmet cams and all this kind of stuff. I mean, whether your thoughts leading into this, you know, getting, you know, team owners involved, I mean, we've gone back and forth, having mixed thoughts about all that stuff. W, what do you think we're at now? I feel like they could be marketing it a little better and maybe marketing and a little more geared towards football fans. It feels like they're not trying to gear it directly towards football fans. And, you know what, Hey, like if that's just the, the world that they just want to exist in is just like, Hey, we're not a football league necessarily where like we're football league, but we're also this. So if they don't want to cater to football fans, then I get that. It seemed like they're trying to get people that are more into video games into it as well. But in the reality of it is to football league. You got to get football fans if you want to survive as a football league. And I know it seems like they've got a lot of connections as far as advertising and, and whatnot. I think there's a TV deal in the works still. I did see something from FCF news about that a little while ago. And I know that one of the, one of the guys was on 'em. A podcast with somebody I'm one of the owners. And they said that there was a TV deal in the works or something, but it's not official yet. It's just, if they want to get the viewership that they want, I feel like they need to gear some of their marketing more towards football fans. Yeah. They got it. They got to, I mean, we're, I just, I feel like we're at the precipice here, you know, we're three weeks out. I mean, players are there. I mean, like we're going for it. And Paul and I were talking before, you know, I've been reaching out to team owners app. And I heard back from one this week and their agent, and they said, you know, They're totally booked right now with, with interviews, you know, maybe we could schedule something at the end of March or April, and I said, you know, thank you so much for getting back to me. I appreciate it. But I said, you know, This is a six week lead. We're three weeks out, you know, like we're going. And I said, you know, I absolutely will talk in April, whatever, but like, I just. You know, To get all these guys involved. And Paul and I have talked about this before you can have 16 million followers and all this stuff and get everything. But if you aren't getting the promotion out there, I just don't know. I mean, Paul, what do you think about that? I think the reason why they brought these team owners in, to be honest with you, it was because they had big social media followings to begin with. It doesn't seem like they're using their social media followings to promote. I mean like Mike Tyson. He's he's I guess he's no longer affiliated with this thing. And I never saw one tweet from him, nothing about this. And maybe I, maybe it wasn't when I wasn't paying attention to Twitter for a brief second, but I never saw any promotion from Mike Tyson about this. I'm not seeing much promotion from these. Owners about these teams. Yeah. And like part of, part of me thinks that they're waiting until like right after the Superbowl. When, you know, all the players are done playing football's over. You know, it may not be the best idea, but maybe that's what they're really waiting for. We're waiting for the general football world to be done with football. The NFL for the year. And that's when people may be interested in what's going on and that's when they may be able to catch the more interest the week leading up to kick off. This just speculation. Obviously, I feel, I feel like they should. I mean, you know what? I shouldn't say that they haven't put enough football stuff out on social media, because over the past few days I've seen so much practice footage from all the players on their stories, from a bunch of the coaches on their stories and eventually making it back to the main page and the team pages and whatnot. So they are finally putting some footage of them, these guys practicing together out, but like, You know, there wasn't a single highlight reel posted by the league. And you know, what I, what I do want my Twitter page really is meant to be fours promoting players that are. Talented or signed to a new league. And in this current situation with my FCF scouting, it's really meant to be like, I want to be able to show all the fans who signed to this league where they've played and how good they are, and like, You know, even the guys who haven't stuffed the stat boxes, I will find their best place. I'll dig through a three hour full team. Footage to find the one punt block punted. This guy got just to make, you know, their, their Kareel hierarch highlight mule, just flash a little bit more to make it just look nice. So it's all football promote the player, promote the league. And then just let them know, okay. Like this guy's coming from playing in Germany. This guy was playing in the arena weeks. This guys fresh out of college, this guy played in the NFL, you know, This was a giant mix bag of it. And part of it is like, you know, you may be able to get some fans from Germany over if they know, Hey, like this guy was on, what's his name? Kyle kitchens. He's a defensive end. He's on, he was on the Potsdam Royals in the GFL. He led the league in sacks in 16 sacks and one year 32 tackles for loss. He was very good. And he signed it, his league in it. You want me to be a bunch of GFL fans would be like, wait, I remember this guy. I can watch them play some more football and now, you know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, that's, that's the thing we talk about, you know, and Paul and I just, again, before we got on here, like, You know, in an alternative world, XFL is coming back in in three weeks, right? You know, and. Not that we wouldn't be covering this and talking about it, but it certainly wouldn't be the focal point, you know? And we're guilty of that. Right. You know, spring league came out, it's the same thing. Right. Okay. We need stuff to cover it. We're talking about. I mean, you know, Paul. I know that we've talked about this where, you know, if we had gotten to this point, you know, if everything went, it happened this year, they did, we would not be having Vince on right now, talking about fan controlled and having journey on right. I mean, most likely, right. Most likely. Yeah. And I think that to your point of events, when you're talking about like, maybe they're waiting till after the Superbowl, when we, when we were gearing up for the XFL last year, They weren't waiting until after the super bowl market and promote it, they were running commercials. I mean. I don't know. I don't know. What do you think? So we got a couple of news bits this week at the voting came up. They did the one foot inbounds one, the voting rule. So the new vote now is doing the reviews, right? So it's either like I players from both from all the team's not involved convo or players that are, I borrowed it. What are you, what'd you think about that? Inbounds rule. And then this new, there were bowling for now with their reviews. I am a two foot. Two for guy personally. You know, you know, the fans voted on what they voted on. It is what it is, but I think it's re I really think it should be two feet. Cause you know, at the end of the day, all of these players are trying to make it back to the NFL or make it to the NFL. You know what I mean? And if the NFL is a two-foot rule, two foot league, then you should probably be using the same rules, just so you can showcase like, Hey, this receiver can still follow your rules, but you know, The whole essence of it is that it is fan controlled. And if a majority of the fans want one foot for flashy or catches and, you know, It's easier to call it a catch if one foot is in as well. There's no. Sitting there are you in about a call? I get it. I don't hate the one foot rule at all, you know, and again, if it comes down to a fan, vote in the fans, decide on it, that it is what it is. That's what the fans wanted. That's what the whole league is. So they're staying true to their image then as long as they stay with that, but with the, what was the new earth. Is like how, if it's going to be all, like team's not involved fans non-involved or fans. Yeah, they were in the game of those teams. Well, the other option they have is you can, like, I don't know how it's gonna work, but you can become like a certified, like review official. I don't know if they're going to put like an online course, like on. The website and just like, you have to pass it like a quiz or something. I'm like, okay, is this a catch. And basically, it seems like they're going to have some way to vet out, you know, The market didn't really know the rules are people that are just trying to f**k around. Sorry. I know you guys. Okay. I apologize. I've been trying to stay good. I like to swear a lot. But yeah, they. I think that could work if it's, you know, they weed out the fans that are, are like well-read and the rules and understand and will be impartial. I think that could work. I could think you could also work with fans that aren't playing. Just because it's like, all right, here's everybody else, you know, you have nothing in on whether or not you would, you know who, which way this call goes. What do you guys think? Because I know I have sat there and watched some. Hearable calls made in NFL games and screamed at the TV. What are you doing? Ref? It's a horrible call. You know what I mean? Yeah. There was a, there was an instance where my Alma mater was playing in the FCS, like the division one AA. Yeah. There was like this pass interference call that was most agregious pass interference call. That was missed. And I was, I was. I was so angry because. Yeah. The situation where my team doesn't normally get that level of success in one. AA ball or FCS ball, whatever they call it. So it was just a situation where I was really irritated. So I get it. We had Patrick. He's on. He talked about. How some people that aren't. Are voting the fans that are voting for the league. Do you have a certain kind of like if they start getting calls right. Or start. Basically, there'll be a tier system of situation. I wonder if that'll be incorporated in this review process, if the fans are allowed to. Be involved in the review is like you were saying. Official. Official. That would, that would play into that then as well. If they have that system kind of already set up, I feel like, you know, guys that are doing more and more official calls or like, you know, say I sit and watch every game and I'm just constantly doing officiating. I feel like they would be like, okay, like, This guy has called, you know, X amount of plays. We trust him and you know, this person and this person, you know what I mean? I think, I think it could work. I don't, I don't, I don't have any problems with that system. Actually. I think it could work my question. Do we feel like, you know, we, we did the jerseys. We did the team names, right? Logos. Yeah, we didn't do colors. Right. We were supposed to do colors. You know, the foot, the foot and bound through reviews. Do you, I mean, obviously calling the plays is the biggest thing. Is there any misses in terms of like fan controlled voting things that fans should have had to say about before? I mean, the, the drafts, they just kind of decided that the draft would be weekly. What maybe fans should have voted on, do we draft weekly or do we draft once? Cause there is, I've seen Instagram comments and my buddy, Alex, I forget his last name, but he messages me a lot on Instagram about, you know, the span controlled stuff. And he told me like, You know, I think they should, they should put up to fan vote. And I 100%, and this was like 20 minutes ago, too. He sent me this message and I 100% agree with them. I think it should be a fan vote of, do we draft weekly or do we draft. At the beginning of the season, because the case for drafting weekly is if you're bringing in all these video game fans that don't know anything about football, but then, you know, one team is just got all the alternate football fans that know all these players already on it. They're going to draft a super team video game fans. Aren't going to know who anybody is. They're going to have to go based off of like, whatever information the lead may have to give. And they may end up with, you know, significantly. Worst team. And that the point of a weekly draft would then let them go. Okay. I made a mistake. Let me redraft, blah, blah, blah. It'll keep the talent, I guess, level. But the problem with that is that you're pulling wide receivers way from your quarterbacks every week. And QBs and wide receivers need time to really build. You know, a report together and really be in rhythm together. Just tell me when I talked to Jody about when it comes up later. Like if you're moving receivers around from week to week to week. They may not get a chance to really build that connection with their receivers and it may lead to sloppy or play on the field. They do have a few things in place to prevent this, though. Like all the offensive linemen are in units together, from what I understand. So that's a huge thing because if you would imagine shifting offensive lineman around from week to week to week, It would just be, it would be a sack party, you know, it's no offensive lineman, really getting time to get into a rhythm together. So. And the defenses are all in units two. And then I don't know how many keepers they're giving teams, but there's like, there's your franchise tag. And I'm going to get into that one in a second. There's the franchise tag and then there's the keepers. And the franchise tag is like, I guess the owners use. And then the keepers are the fans vote on them. And I don't know how many keepers you get. So I'm thinking there's like four or five, maybe. And, you know, If. If it were me or what I'm honestly going to try to do is tell fans around the time of the beginning of the season, like, Hey, use your keepers to keep your offensive line, your quarterback, your best receiver and your defense. And if you have one more spot, either your wide receiver, two or running back number one, just to have the like, and just use the scene keepers every week and just keep as much of a consistent offense as you can, because if you keep shifting too many players out, it may lead to some inconsistencies. And it just, you know, it's not going to be as clean as you want it to do the, I think that's, that's really what it is. Yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot. It's a lot to try to explain people, write, sorry, I cut you off Paul. When, when you talk about the keepers thing, like we. I don't think this was advertised before, but the whole Johnny Manzell issue when that was like a franchise thing where he's going to play for one team and one team only. And we were kind of baffled were like, wait, I thought that that wasn't going to be allowed. What, what were you. Yeah, that was, I didn't like that personally, just cause they, it wasn't discussed at all and it felt like it was the complete opposite. Of what fan controlled is supposed to be, because in reality, it was really Bob Mentari just like being wild on his Instagram with Johnny, Manzell starting all these rumors, that Mandela was going to come play for the week. And I was like, you know what, you know, if it generates some attention towards league, whatever, I have no problem with that. You know, I'll give Manzell the benefit of the doubt. Every team he's played for since leaving the NFL has been in bad shape when he arrived. Is the suffering. It would CFL team. He played for, he was on the out of the wet. So they were like not doing well when he got here, he got traded to them. He was on the tiger cats. I think Hamilton tiger cats. Coached by June Jones at the time. I think two may not be 100% of that. Kids on the man's alpha genes on. So like, you know, he, he got traded to a team that was struggling. And then when he was out of the CFL and went to the AAF, he went to the Memphis express who were also. Very much struggling at the time. So, you know, I know that his on-field product hasn't been great through his alternate football career necessarily, but I don't necessarily, I'm not going to say 100%. That he can't still ball. Because we saw how good he was at one point. And, you know, maybe being in a different situation. Will. Yield a different result. You know what I mean? Yeah. However, sorry to get a little off track. The. The franchise tag rule kind of came out of nowhere. And. You know, there was no advertisement of it anywhere. No one really saw anything. And then out of nowhere, they were just like, this operas have used their franchise tag on Johnny Manzell and I was like, To know what existed. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't even know it exists. And they had already even said like he has to be drafted. He cannot just go right to the team. Like that was what the understanding was, because remember when they, they did on a Twitch show, they introduced the other James harden, the football player. And part of the introduction was Quavo saying welcome to the glacier Boyz in a, in a video. And then they had to correct them. Like, Hey. He's in the league. He just has to get. You know, he still has to get drafted. And, you know, that's what I was under the assumption was that, you know, Bob, Mary really wanted his friend to get on the team. And now at that point I was like, look, He's already got all his fans voting for that team. They're all gonna want to draft men Zelle on the first round. Just let them go get them like. There's plenty of other great quarterbacks available. Like if they really want them, just let them go get them in the first round. Quintin flowers is still in the mix. Jackson Erdman is still in the mix. Mason. Espinosa's like one of them. Best arena quarterbacks around in the past few years. I don't think anybody even had an idea that he was, he was there or who he is. There's a good chance. He doesn't even store just because of name recognition. Yep. He may be the best quarterback there. He had a season where he threw for 66 touchdowns, seven interceptions. My last question for you and kind of way. What inspired this whole thing to begin with you and messaged me this week? You know, we talked last week. Marshawn Lynch, his brother was coming into the league, you know, it was going to join Marshawn. You know, one of the team honors for the bees. We had messaged, you know, talking about the Twitch show he was supposed to be on last week, right. Was advertised with Bob Manary. I believe I, you know, they, they weren't on. Now you, you had reported it to me that Marshawn's brother had left the bubble. Now Renee Montgomery is advertised to come on today on the twit show. So this, or, you know, we are episode will air tomorrow, but we'll know. Do you, do you think she will come on? What do you, what is the star with Marshawn's brother and all that step? I don't really know in depth in depth. I just know that he was in the bubble at one point. And then. He, I think he just left on his own accord. I don't think there was really any issue. I think he just, I honestly, I can't say anything. 100%. I can't confirm anything from what I am. Assuming based off of just what I saw on social media, it looked like he just didn't really want to do it. I don't know. But that obviously had to do with where Marshawn was going to be on the show talking. Maybe I don't, I don't know if that like, is the reason why he didn't go on the show. I think part of what he was gonna do was I thought he was gonna use his franchise tag on his brother. Devontae SAB Lynch is a very good running back for those that aren't tuned in with arena football and with the GFL he played in Germany for like five games. Ran for like 700 yards went off in the IFL last year and Marshawn used his, or has a IFL team, the Oakland Panthers. And the very first player they signed was Devante sapling. So I was under the assumption and a lot of other people were under the assumption that that was what the franchise tag was going to be used on. He's going to get his brother. And maybe, I mean, honestly it may be connected. Maybe his brother was like, look, man, I don't know if I want to do this anymore. Blah, blah, blah. Don't go announce that I'm going to be your franchise tag. I don't know if I'm even going to be here and then maybe that's maybe that is what happened. Honestly. I couldn't tell you for sure. I, if I were to make a wild speculation, I'd say that's what happened though. Okay. Yeah. Just curious about that, because like I said, it just goes back to the whole team ownership and all that stuff anyway. So thank you for that. I haven't seen anything from Thomas Rawls either. I don't know if he's got any social media. I haven't been able to find him. That's typically how I've been able to keep track of who's actually there. It's just like followed a bunch of players on Instagram. Whenever they tag somebody else in their Instagram story, I go and follow them and I'm just keeping up. Okay, this person's in the bubble. And then I eventually take the time to pull up their stats, reach out to them, get them to confirm everything where they played and whatnot. But yeah, from, I haven't seen anything of Thomas brawls being in the being there sign or the bubble or anything, it would be really great seeing him come back. I mean, he was a, a great running back when he had time to play, but yeah. Oh, well, we'll have to wait and see on that one still, too. Vince from the alternate football scouting report. Thank you for joining us today on the expo. You guys appreciate it. Appreciate it. Keep doing the Lord's work at their eye tracking these stats. Absolutely. I'll be well, guys. Thanks man. Awesome. Yeah, thanks guys. Appreciate it. I watch every week. I'm glad I finally got to be on. I appreciate it. We're going to knock out the rest of the XFL stuff now. So take care and yeah, I'll post it and take it tomorrow. I appreciate it. Alright, sounds good. Be well, guys. Wanna thank Vince from the ultimate football scouting report for joining us here on the Mark. Casper, going to take another commercial break, got to come back with Jackson, urban journey tag journey. He's going to talk about his, the bubble so far for fan controlled football as well. Coming up right after this. Oh, yeah, this guy. Hey, Hey, what's going on, man? How's it going guys? Good. How are you doing? Doing well, thanks for having me. You seem to be very popular with some fans. Do you do, how do you, what do you attribute that to. You know, I got a great following from my school in St. John's my family and friends. And then just on social media, too. That's all we heard last week was journey, journey, journey. Gertie. And while they says, if we have listeners tweeting the show saying we needed to have you on. So we said, all right, we'll do it. And so we got, we got Judy I'm here straight off at practice right today in Atlanta. Yeah. Yeah, literally just came home for practice. We're still like, you know, kind of, not in the quarantine phase. We're slowly getting out of that because we just had practices, but I'm still doing the social distancing, like we're in a pod. Four people and we all like select times for dinner. So I'm just waiting for my dinner time now. How is the food because we've heard stories about the food. TSL how's the food. Add a fan controlled football so far so good. Okay. Like every meal. It's super good weed. At first, we had them delivered to our door pretty much like when we were quarantined, but now we have like the dining hall open and. Yeah, it's even better now. So I'm loving it. Good. I saw a lot of before you guys actually went because he just started practices this week. Last week, people were going there and I saw a lot of like people running, like doing routines in the hotel rooms and stuff like that. And me, what was it like kind of going through and flying in and getting into all this, because you're the first email player that we've talked to you, that's kind of enter the bubble now. And this is playing for a fan control. Yeah. Aye. It was different. I love how seriously they're taking, obviously, because in order for a league to operate, you know, in the time we're at then. They need to have protocols and give you a very strict, so I was excited for that. So, yeah, we, we came in. And. What was it like six, seven days. We didn't really leave our hotel room. Unless we were going downstairs and get it tested. And we had certain times and everything. So I'm definitely got a little stir crazy, but you know, still like we're down here and play football and like we have a league for calm. We're getting ready to compete against like other positions. So. Yeah. You saw a lot of guys on social media, like working out in the rooms and just kind of being creative, you know? And then also this league is all about fan interactions, like taking the teams and then pull it like tweeting or just showing him self promotion too. So it's, it's been a really cool experience so far, and I'm excited for the league. You were in the spring league. What was your experience like there? Yeah. It was a great learning experience. That was my first like, You know, like football league outside of college, because I graduated last December. So I was excited just for an opportunity because a lot of like my pro day got canceled and then Ricky mini camps got canceled. So, you know, Culvert ended up canceling like the spring league eventually. So I'm happy for this league and just excited that they're putting it on and taken Colvin very, very seriously. But yeah, sprinkling was a great learning experience for sure. Yeah. I mean, just talking about the importance of having a, we covered the spring league back in the fall. Yeah. Obviously fan control it. We're in the XFL podcast, but having a leagues like this for you guys, especially this year in general, we're kind of everything else got messed up and you lost all this different stuff. Having the ability to go out. You know, w with the spring league, I know you had, I think he got injured, right? Right. You got a concussion in the, in the spring league, is that correct? Not diagnosed, but I got my bell rung for sure. So, and that not necessarily working out right. You know, that getting canned something out, being able to do this, you know, talking about just having these wraps, these opportunities to stay up on everything. I mean, here, we discovered XFL guys from last year, going into NFL playoff games. I mean, it's just crazy. How, how much more relevant all of this? You know, having these spring football is right now. Oh, absolutely. I'm so fortunate to be here in this day and age like this. The only, like there's only two football leagues going. Going on right now. Except bell CFO. Those are all like taken a year off or whatever. It's. FCF and like NFL. And so I'm just excited to one, stay in shape. Keep getting reps, keep going again. Great competition to learn. Come from a D three. He got, you know, just competing against guys that are like at the D. On stage and everything and like seeing okay. I can't be with them and like, you know, just building confidence in myself. I'm getting ready to make that jump to the next. To the next level. So it's exciting. And again, it's so important because you don't want to be sitting just at home, trying to work out and then waiting for that opportunity. Like development is so cheap in this day and age. So yeah, I'm excited to be here. Anybody in the bubble with you right now that you remember from the spring league? I know that there was someone that was signed recently. We pull it up. I'm probably gonna. This guy's name. Daria Smith. He was on the blues. For a little while to anybody else that you are familiar with. Yeah. Yeah. So Lawrence Keyes was a center and he's here too. And then we got two other D linemen that were on the blues with me and they're just coming in. Or they've been here. It's hard to tell who's been here since the start and who has it because everyone's mad. Still. And then we're like quarantine and everything, or, you know, social distancing. So it's one scene guide is, and then there's a couple guys that were like, the alphas are Congress too. So there's a handful of guys here. Yeah, no, I was messaging a couple exit valve guys that are coming in and yeah, they're still going through some of the, you know, some of them are still going through the testing and everything where, you know, it's kinda like this stage roll out here over the next couple of weeks to kind of get you guys all. Together, I guess. You know, if it were for COVID and it weren't for all this. I mean, were you I in right NFL, everything moving forward. I mean, did having COVID cancel all this stuff. Did this put all this on your radar that maybe wouldn't have been there before? Or were you kind of aware of the spring league and obviously fan controls new, but some of these alternative leagues. Oh, no, I wasn't at all. Yeah. I was hoping, you know, all of a sudden the girl go for pro day in Minnesota golfer. I was excited, you know, to showcase myself in front of like all the Scouts there. And then hopefully you don't get a rookie mini camp or get picked up into a camper free agent deal. Otherwise, like I was excited for CFL opportunities to online Montreal. Negotiation list and nebulous right now. And then, so yeah, the spring league. I didn't. I had no idea what the FCF was at the time. Either or completely like off my radar radar, but yeah, just the protein was canceled or community cancer canceled, like I said, so I was just working out throughout the summer, like hoping like Brookie many canceled happen, maybe right before training camp, they ended up not. And then my agency was like, he presented like the idea of like the spring league. Introduced it to me and then also the FCF. So I actually did an FCF workout. Right before I started this ringing because it was down in Houston. So it timed out for me. But yeah. What's been the differences between the bubble that you're experiencing, experiencing there at the FCF. And then. What you experienced at TSL? Yeah. That stinger or anything like that. Yeah, so the FCF we've tested a lot more frequently. And then we also have a necklace like Palm tracers. Our trackers. So like, we all wear those when you leave the room. And then I think that like the NBA, NFL abuse. Like it just records, like who you're like in contact with for a certain amount of time. So I'll just Tracy and Austin, everything. Yeah. So that's, and then like really hardcore quarantine. Like we have people in the hall is that like, are like, where are you going? But you're not allowed to like leave her. Just making sure, like, we're like, no, one's like messing around and breaking the rules. What was your first reaction when you heard about this fan controlled football league? It's a little different than you kind of your typical obviously football thing. So w what, what were your first reactions? I thought it was genius. You know, just combining, you know, Twitch, which is a huge platform itself with just the concept. Whereas like fans actually vote for the plays and, you know, I was like, why hasn't this been thought of before? So I'm super excited. Just like obviously to play football. I love playing football outside. It's just a super cool idea and I'm excited to be a part of the inaugural season. And I think it has a lot of potential, you know, like this complete. Potentially be the future for like, I mean, football is maybe easier call an actual plays, but who knows across all sports, it could be like this in the future. So I'm pretty pumped up just to see how it all like have first-hand experience of how it operates and then yeah. How it plays out. As a quarterback though, you might have to, you know, call something on the fly, call an audible. Wha how do you think the fans are gonna react? If you had to do that? I, so I don't think that's allowed, I'm still like learn the rules, but I I'm pretty sure the audibles are not allowed because my understanding is the fans will have like roughly 10 seconds to get the plan. Everyone has radios in their helmets, so there'll be like 10 seconds to transmit the call and then play. Clock's going to be really quick. They're really promoting like high, fast paced, no huddle offense. So I would, and I think it's a rule that we're not allowed to audible. If anything, maybe like flip. The play. But like you have to stick with the play call. Interesting. Interesting. One thing. One thing that's so different about this league, you know, we covered, like I said, the spring league was, yeah. Obviously the involvement, you know, That's what it's built around. Right. You're getting the fans involved, but it's also, yeah. Involvement from the league, the league, reaching out to people, you know, the teams each have their own social media and that's all. Goes to you guys, right? Because you want to appeal to the fans. You want them to pick you to be playing every week. Right. You know, where some of these guys, you might be the best athlete in the world. And not that you might not, are not an exceptional athlete as well. Right. But you can be the best athlete in the world if no one punches your ticket. Right. Maybe you're not getting to play as much. Have you, do you think that you're, you know, obviously getting on the podcast, you know, other things, do you think you're ahead of the curve in that and reaching out, getting the involvement where maybe some of the other players in like a week or two are going to be like, Oh wow. I should really have gotten on. On this. Yeah. Aye. This league is all about, you know, promoting yourself in interacting with the fans, which I love that aspect. You know, to me, it's just like viewing it as like an even bigger team, you know, because everyone's involved. Which I just love that aspect of it. So yeah, I'm trying to network as much as possible and get my name out there because you don't want to be in the place where it's like all man, like sit back and not do anything and not engage with the fans because if I'm on the. I'm on a team. I want the fans to know. Like what type of players we like, like interacting and all that stuff. You know that that's where the teams are going to be the most successful, successful. Excuse me. And then yeah, just, you know, building your network too. I, I love meeting people and like talking to new people. So I love all the different platforms at the FCF is providing for us to interact with fans. Yeah. So I just absolutely love that aspect. We talked about a few of those technologies. They're bringing in like the virtual meet and greets and stuff like that. Of course, you know, with COVID going on, it can't be an actual meet and greet. What kind of technology have you seen there that you've really been drawn to so far? That's made you go. Wow, that's cool. That's a good addition for any football league. Yeah. So they're, they're actually. I think it was maybe finished a day. They're like we're working on like a virtual reality, like weightlifting type thing. I've never heard of it. I don't know the technical name, but that's again, put together. So we're going to be able to start using that. And there are so many different, like other opportunities. I like, we're going to have like some classes on like, you know, just like Twitch, one-on-one like streaming and all, all kinds of stuff, because I'm not as familiar with those platforms. I have accounts, but I just don't know, like, Yeah, diagnostics because I'm everything, but yeah, I'm excited to take advantage of every opportunity because the FCF is like providing these platforms for us. So I'm over here, like brainstorming, like what can I do? Like 10th grade podcasts, like content, or like, just like video games. I'm looking at LinkedIn. Like biggest, like streaming. Video games and stuff like that. So there's a lot of opportunities, which is awesome that the league is providing for us. What school for me is, you know, we've been following this since, you know, they announced the team owners and everything, right. And you got like the beast in the, in the wild ACEs and stuff. And it's, it's so interesting to me how the owners that are with these leagues, right? Whether it's like Greg and the guys with wild ACEs or, you know, Quavo and whatever, with the glacier Boyz. But I it's interesting is that they ah, You know, they really are dictating the mood and feeling of all these teams. Right. And obviously, you know, you've got hooked up with a wild ACEs. They wanna, you know, they tag you right. Or bring you on to be like one of their guys. I just talk about that. Just seeing all this different stuff going on online and all the bickering and bantering and all that kind of stuff. And your reactions. Yeah, I think it's awesome. I love that each team has kind of developed their own almost persona. You know, and it's so much fun to follow. Just like on the social media. I have no idea who runs them, but I get a kick of, and that's helping just promotion of the league, because again, this is the first season, so it's all about. Getting those promos out and getting those followers and everything. And just on social media nowadays, like you have to be entertained to build a following base. And I love, I follow every single team and I just get a kick out of them every day. But I, again, I love the different personas and again, I'm big on the wild days is right now. I love the vibes are putting out. I love the owners, but. Yeah. I'm excited just to see how everything comes in, comes together. Any players right now that you're taking a look at what you'd love to have on your team wide receivers specifically. Yeah, we got some dudes down here. The water's senior talent is awesome, but one guy that's really been killing me. Caught my eye caught my eye is Andrew Jamil. Slot receivers, soul shift. He's smart. You know, the offenses were putting in. It's gonna, it's gonna be a lot of like, kind of just reading the defense and like adapting with option routes. And she's been doing a great job and he's so quick. So it's fun to get them the ball. A question I had, and this might be too early in the practicing to talk about, but you know, we're going to be doing the first draft February 10th. Right. And we've kind of learn through that. Like, you know, it's basically like real life, fantasy football every week. Right. People can vote and pick the teams. And then the next week. Are. So are you practicing with guys now? You know, and then when they draft those teams, like, how are you going to feel about, you know, going from, I guess, how you're practicing now to being segregated into teams are segmented out. Like, how is that. How does that work? I was really curious when I saw the turnaround of the first draft of the first team, you know, games on the 13th. Yeah. And I've been wondering the same thing to be honest, like right now we're all, it's like a pool of players. Right. So we're all learning the same offense, all like we're rotating gain reps with everyone. We've recently like broken into like, like groups, you know, almost not like teams, but just like, so like we can count on everyone getting the same amount of reps and everything and just building chemistry. But it's going to be really interesting, you know, cause especially in a high paced, like orphans focused league, you got to build chemistry and no like just connections and timing with receivers, like breaks and everything. So I, I would assume. I don't know if this is correct. They haven't disclosed to us yet, but I would assume that like, when we have those teams, like we'll break off and have separate practice times, but again, like the draft is February 10th and then the first game was February 13th. So like, That's maybe like two days. The quick practice and get on the same page. So it's going to be interesting for sure. And the teams are going to be most successful are the ones that come together, the quickest and just get on the same page. Yeah. That was something we brought up recently was like, can you form a decent amount of chemistry with someone you've been drafted with, you know, two days before you two or three days before you play as that? Is that a concern for you? And, and if it is, how do you go about fixing that? Yeah. Biggest thing is, you know, in my experience is communication. And like I said, there there's a lot of receivers here. So like you could potentially be drafted on the same team of a receiver that. You've maybe thrown like 20 balls too through all like training camp or whatever. And like 20, like not a lot, like we're throwing like a hundred passes a day, like at least, you know, Like way more than that. So it's really important. Just communication, just based on like what coverage they're in, like what you're doing at what, at what depth than just like ball placement. So. And watching film. We were not at that stage right now because we're still only supposed to stay in like our pods and everything. But as like, we get the bubble under like secure and like how. Nice main concerns with total rule. Really for you to like watch film with people that aren't in our pockets and everything. So it'll be interesting. Same, but you know, I'm excited. I love challenges. So they'll for sure. Be a challenge just to build chemistry and get on the same page. Yeah, cause that's something. The time, just, I mean, you can rap with guys as many times as you want, but it's, I'm just getting out there on the field and having that chemistry, you know, especially, you know, as a quarterback, trying to figure out timing and everything and where, where they're going to be looking and whatever, it's just, it's different. Obviously. I think it's a lot more pressure on, you know, you guys still like really be on the game, you know, especially for that position, just to be able to, you know, ready to go. Right. Because people want to see, you know, a high scoring games and you know, all that kind of stuff. So yeah. A couple more questions here before we go. We were obviously primarily XFL podcast. You know, would you have any interest in playing in that league? You know, after we get done with fan controlled football, when they're going to be starting off next year, what are your thoughts about XFL? I had you followed that before any of this stuff. And what are your thoughts? Yeah. So I. You know, I love washing it. I loved the atmosphere like. Perfect timing right after the super bowl, people still wanting to wash, you know, football. And I liked how it was like different, you know, like they interviewed players on the sideline and you could hear like the play calls. And I love that aspect. And like, I felt just as a fan, like watching it at the time, like closer to the game and knew what was going on. So I would absolutely, you know, any opportunity to keep playing the game that I love and, you know, just hopefully make so that you see all the stories of all the time next week. That makes the chomp and kill it in the playoffs, you know, just like recently. So I I'm all about that and, you know, excited for my future and just hope I keep, I stay healthy and just have the opportunity to keep learning, keep growing my game and yeah, keep playing for sure. Is that the ultimate goal then to get to the NFL? Potentially of course, obviously. That's been a dream of mine since I was little, but, you know, CFL, NFL. I'd, I'd love to keep playing and yeah. Just play at the highest level possible for sure. Last question before we let you go. Y who is the worst? A team of the fan controlled football teams. And why is it the glacier Boyz? Glacier will I, you know, I don't want to put a target on me and everything, but they're the biggest rival at the wild days is, you know, and while bases is my squad and you know, I'm loving them. But, you know, they're doing a lot of talk. They, they give me really like defense, the bad vibes, you know, were there. Always bark and always talk in it. So we'll see if they can back it up. Why I appreciate, you know, we try to get, obviously some of the people are watching this leak for the rivalry staff, some of our fans, I know van the man, our number one thing. And he messaged me all the time. He goes, I want to hear more about football when it comes to fan controlled football. So I think, I think we did a good mix today with the interview. I think we got enough, you know, bantering and the rivalry and then enough talking about football stuff. Paul, do you agree with that? Totally agree. We're good. We're we're. We're good. I think we've, we've got a healthy mix. Perfect. I thank you so much, Judy, for coming on at, you know, taking time right after practice and that you got to go get your, your food, right. Your bubble quarantine meal. Yes, yes. Highlight of the night. Well, I appreciate you guys having me on and taking the time. Okay. Want to thank Jackson Erdmann, urban for joining us here on the expo. Markcast. Look forward to seeing what he does and fan controlled football and looking forward to see what happens in his future. He's got a lot of time left. We'll see if he, if he possibly get to the XFL, maybe gets a futures deal. Maybe even gets on a roster. Hopefully all the best for journey. Really good kid. A really good character. Great guy. And we're looking forward to seeing that happen. So that being said, we're going to take one more commercial break. Sorry. Distributor complaining about their time length. This is a great one was short and sweet. We're going to take one more commercial break. We got a big stuff coming up or we got a big thing coming up reads. The most important guests of the Mark has this week. Reed's wife is joining, joining us. Right after this. Okay, so then we'll end the show with her. Do you want to do a promo real quick? And then we'll call her? She has the link. I'm just going to text her when we're ready to go. All right. This week on the expo. Mark has read, says every week is packed, but this week really is packed. This is not no joke. This is really packed. I don't know how we're going to do it, but anyway, moving forward, Jackson, urban journey. Joining us. Hashtag tag journey, a wild ACEs. Lover. He is the darling of the fan controlled football right now. And we have him on the show were straight out of a practice. Looking forward to that. Also Vince from the alternate football scouting report joins us and then a special guests, the most important guest. My wife. Dorothy is coming onto the garbage segment today. We've got a surprise. I still don't know what it is, but we're going to, we're going to do that. And then plus, you know, we still have all your XFL stuff. Right. You know, we're talking about. The Oliver luck lawsuit. We're talking about the whole Patriot's logo thing. Well, so are we talking about. We're also talking about how. All the luck might, might be in the mix for a new commissioner job here. Let's that's, that's something I'm looking forward to as a PAC 12 fan. So all that coming up this week on the Mar cast. I think I was going to throw that back to you for that final comment. Did ya? We'll see you soon. I mean, Vince was whatever he was. He was excited. I'll tell you what that guy is a listener for life, right. Okay. She's just going to go pee. Okay. Do you think that was a good enough promo? Yeah. It's better when you spit ball telling you. That video of that lady crying. Itself is great. That's great. No triggered. It's great. I would just like hit, he just go away now just forever. Like, you know what I mean? Like I know they wanted to talk about and come back and be like, who cares? Just go away. He's old. He's so old. It's like, who cares? I was talking about starting a new party. Please. Yeah, he's at 34% of the proof already. Let's start a new political party. You know, it's going to happen. You start a new political party. You're going to split the. Electorate. Well, I guess his, his, yeah. Advisors really try to talk him out of the other or something, but. Cause I know what it's going to do. I just. I just want him to get arrested and go away. So I finally got van to not call me anymore. So he just texted me. But it held texts like 12 things interrupt, but at least he's not calling at least. Mine get to it whenever. Yeah. Cause he said, he goes, well, I'm not a big texter. I'm like, well, I am. So if you want to talk, then you need the text. I'm I'm, I'm just like that in the same way with like, I've been helping his friend out. I think he probably saw, Oh my God, stop calling you right now. F**k. Like in the middle of anything. I've been helping a friend out with her green-screen situation. And she keeps calling and it's like, are you okay? And I'm like, I just don't like the phone man. I just don't like the phone. It's not my jam. Well, I just it's like, then you're like locked in right then, like, it doesn't matter what you're doing. And when Liam. You have to I'm I'm always multitasking. Yeah. I'm always doing three things at once. And if I'm on the phone call with you and I'm trying to do something else, then you think I'm not giving you my full attention, which I'm not. Which I'm not because I'm trying to do other things. Well, and that's like, especially just working from home, like I usually shower until like noon a lot of days. I'm like, Whoa. Another sample make people are like, I'm not sitting in an office. Like, Hey, what's going on? Like, I'm like in the shower and the bathroom are like, dude. I mean, I'm just not, I just don't. Don't call. Yeah. I worked in a call center. That's why I don't like the phones anymore. You work in a call center wants, you're just like, unless it's really for you. Last year, really about that life. You just can't do that. I laugh. I thought we were going to be right here. Right in here. We need to get time now. Eight won't be now. I mean, they said the only be like an hour and 15 and there's something they won't be like crazy. We flew through that. Because I'll share pretty quick. Man that Vince though, that was, ah, That was rough. Yeah, that was a little bit rough. I mean, God bless him. I got my new, so I was sick of having to put that curtain up every single time. Okay, here we go. Here we go. Dorothy. Wow. Look at all the look at all the. The accoutrement behind you there. Yes. Yes, I've got all my calendar for my kiddos and my tooth tracker. When they lose teeth. Yeah. It's good. I got my, I got my cracking. Good. Good. I would prefer you on a Mark CASSE sweatshirt, but I guess we'll take what we can get. Wow. Oh, wow. I'm going to go ahead and step out here. You guys are going to argue. So we're into the a, there. The Mark castaways segment today, or the garbage segment that things that annoy Paul at the end of the volume. Don't annoy me. Dorothy, don't let him. Tell you that fake news here. It was a red Sox, the red Sox statement. That's that's, Will's about where I'm going to put the poll out this week. Now that we've got Dorothy on the garbage segment, it's not the garbage segment because it's Dorothy, it's a garbage segment because. Maybe it's the, my wife segment. So during the one that you set this up. Cause I didn't really know what we have going on. Yeah. Well, I was listening to the podcast. As I do every week. And I think it was two weeks ago and I heard something on that I thought, Oh, I'm going to look into that. See if I can order it and I was able to, and so, yeah, so anyway, But the funny part is you guys know you have that thing on Fridays where it's like the big news comes out on Fridays. Yes. Well, This arrived last Friday. So I was like, Oh, We missed everywhere. I know. And so, and actually there's two boxes and all that. This is great. Paul is going to love this only one of these is actually for us. The other ones like it's, I don't know where we're going to. It's a 50, 50 shot. I messed up my flag. We have a 50 50 shot. I'm not, I don't want to show our address. It does say on here. Contains alcohol. So that that's, that's a good thing. So I don't know what we talked about. Unless it's like a, I don't know, Paula. Are we opening it? Are we ready? I've been ready. All is ready to get them. Okay. Not over it. I've been ready to go. Been hyping this for like, you know, I said, hire. Or show for like a couple days before that. So we're looking forward to seeing exactly what this is. All right. Well, I did pretty good here with Oh, politicking. Like this thought I was going to like this a lot. I can already tell Paul I was going to like this. This is the right box. Oh, good. Oh, that was lucky. Hey, I'll tell you. I'd rather be, I'd rather be lucky than good. All right, Paul. Yes, sir, we have, this is your I'm going to be very excited. This is great. Dorothy did an excellent job with this. We have a little bit. Ah, yeah. Yes. And maybe we'll have to. Do this at some point, I know Paul's not a big drinker, but maybe next time I'm, we're able to go to LA. We have a little bit of the bubbly. Chris Jericho champagne. Wow. Thanks. It was very thoughtful. Dorothy, that was very thoughtful. We dig it. Oh, good. I'm glad you like it. It was sold out for awhile. So it's lucky that. And they have a funny video, like a trailer. Promo. I don't know if you guys have seen it. Is it the one where Chris Jericho's walking around, shirtless talking about a little bit of the bubbly. Yeah. No, he hasn't like in a briefcase and he opens it and all of his buddies are like, Whoa, I don't know. I'll try this I'll show you. Maybe you can. Well, yeah, we'll, we'll share it on social media. Well, this is great. We have a little bit of the bubbly. We have a bottle of peace upon next time you come up and visit, maybe we'll we'll crack it open. When 2023, when COVID is finally done and over with. Wow. We're going well, we go to the first XFL game. We'll we'll crack this open and we'll, we'll have a little bit of the bubbly. So it sounds perfect. Thanks. Thank you very much. Do you have any thoughts on that? Do you have any thoughts on the offer? Locked Vince McMahon lawsuit. We have here. And now I just can't believe it's still going on. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there you go. I'm going to go on longer than COVID. I'm afraid. That lawsuit. Yeah, probably. Well, this is good. Okay. Looking forward to having a taste of that bubbly. Chris Jericho can no longer perform the lion salt as seen on AEW TV this week. Yeah. A really bad date. Chris Jericho has put on probably about 35 pounds in the last couple of years, and he could no longer do his signature backwards. Moon salt off the, off the middle term boggle. What are they called? And salt called the lion salt. Oh, cause he was the Lionheart Chris Jericho. And so then it was, Oh, Anyway. Okay. Thank you for the champagne. I appreciate it. Definitely. I won't speak for read, but I definitely I'm looking forward to having some of that. Oh, good. Yeah. Thank you again for coming on, Dorothy. I appreciate it. We're going to end the show here. I XFL show that comm slash review. If you're a fan of the show. Yeah. They'll show.com/merge to buy some March. Cause we got some merchant again. I was putting all the merge of Dorothy could have had their advertising XFL sweatshirt, obviously, then that's okay. It's all right. Let me continue to shame her. She's got to come home to you soon and give you probably a sock to the jaw. Yeah. I do have my XFL mask for though. He does have for active on Mark Hass mask before that, you know, the old school ones that would be out with the old blog. So, yeah. Thanks. Dorothy for joining us. Thanks Jerdy, Jackson Erdmann for coming on. Thanks Vince alternative football scouting report for coming on and doing the Lord's work with all the stats. I know Paul loved, loved all the stats, so thank you very much. There was a lot of stuff. Stuff with Vince, but it was good. Vince. We love you. Thank you. So tune in next week, I'll definitely will listen to this episode a few times to digest everything, but tune in next week. We'll have another great show for you. And thanks again, Dorothy, for the champagne. And thanks for showing up. See y'all next week.

XFL Markcast Episode 23 - Reid Gets His PJ Walker Jersey?

Ready. Yeah, we're recording. We are good. You're recording. I'm recording. We're all recording. Welcome to the XFL Mark cast. It was like week 21 of this stuff when yeah. We haven't even had anything. Any games played in the XFL, but we're covering other things this week, as well as the XFL. We've got some good stuff on, on tap on the Google doc, which is three pages. Again, for some reason, I don't know. And. I see what you did today. We're recording far earlier than we normally do. And I think Paul thought if he could get me on this morning to record, that would stop adding things to the Google doc to talk about today. So I know you did. He texted me at this point. He goes, let's record now because then their life. I look like I've got a full day of work and other stuff ahead of me. So I was just like, let's record now. I'm awake. I'm wide awake. I'm not angry. I blood. Sugar's fine. We're in a good place. We're in a good place. Except when I saw three pages of the Google doc. I did give you fair warning. I texted Paul last night. I said, I just, I've just given you a heads up. There's a lot of staff today. We got to cover there's a lot. There really is a lot of news. There's not a lot of filler staff. I think you would agree that it's, it's mostly I'll get staffed. And so I just said, I just letting you know, there's a lot of stuff to go through the bag. And if anybody decides to comment in the YouTube comment section about my hat, realize I've had those hats since 2014. And yes, I am celebrating James harden. I don't appreciate your fat shaming names on Twitter people. It's not funny. It's not cute. You can make fun of many other things that James harden does like frequent strip clubs. Every other night. You can make fun of that. You make fun of the fact that he went to Arizona state. I don't care. Just don't let's not fat shame. Okay. Let's not fat shame. Speaking of the feedback. That is my number one thing today. And then I don't want the barrier that we have something that was very exciting that just came. But th there was great last week we had a little bit of lively banter in the YouTube. So I'm telling people, yeah. Fans at the shell. Yeah. If you want to leave comments on the YouTube, even if you're disagreeing with Paula that's okay. Or. XFL Mark. CASSE just the name of the podcast, gmail.com that comes at, you know, if you have like feedback, do you have staff? Preferably not like negative feedback, but if there's things that maybe you want us to cover, or if you have like ideas or, you know, ideas for the garbage segment or whatever, we'll get into all that. But yeah, I just, I would like more feedback. I thought that was really fun. You know, Paul was arguing with people. That's always great. And he was wrong and I proved he was wrong. Wow. Yeah, I thank you for listening. Basically, if you have any, any Arizona Cardinals news, we're going to put it in the garbage. Moving on. Hurdles, I'm sorry, not Arizona, but Phoenix Cardinals. I was that Mike, I don't want to, I don't want to bury the lead of who is, who is our wonderful comment or I'm trying. But he was like, we still out-state games. State farm stadium all the time. Then I like posted the actual attendance numbers. From from not the media guide. He's like, Oh, I guess you're right. I know. Why can't our, here we go. I'm clearing the no, hang on vamp for just a second. I'm getting the, so basically what what's going on is we're going to get more merchandise up at a Moxy. Oh, I should say XFL show.com/merge. Mike, Mike, thank you for your comment. Like yes. It directs you to a Moxy cash.com. But if you want those specific XFL show merge, XFL show.com/merge to get your hands on that. So basically we're going to put some note t-shirts we got to redesign the logo a little bit or putting the t-shirts back up. I'm going to get to that this weekend. Cause they've got some free time on my hands. Sweatshirts are great. We got the sweatshirts are great. It's good. They do fit a little small, right. Or a little big, they know theirs. The medium is medium. So if you, if you are a, yeah, I would get, get a size up, but their grant, I got one for my mom for Christmas. I got one for Dorothy. We're just during the, and I are like those weirdos now that match. And we walk around the house and we're wearing the same cause. I'm I'm waiting for next year's Christmas card. I really am. Yes. So the barrier. We're not going to open it now. Cause I, you tell me when the proper time is to do this. Now this it's been raining in Seattle. Speaking of merge. Yes. It's so I don't check the mail a lot when it rains. It's, you know, I just, I don't leave my house, but I went and got the mail last night. And longtime fans of the shovel now. We have our, I'm not going to, it's got my address on it. I've got that. The Chinese bootleg Paul's zoom has frozen. We have the Chinese bootleg, PJ Walker. A rough necks Jersey that came in the mail last. Well, it could have come in the mail. Well, I didn't anyway. It. This is going to come days ago, but it came. So you tell me when we're going to open this on the show, fans have been waiting. I ordered this the same day. I ordered my Carolina Panthers, PJ Walker, Jersey. This is that. It's like a replica, it's a Houston roughnecks with PJ walkers number and name on it. So we'll see how it goes. You tell me when the appropriate time is to open it. I haven't, I haven't. Pinpointed them. I got, I got my scissors. I've never that I watch a lot of unboxing videos in my time. Just people that know me personally, but I've never actually done an unboxing myself. So very excited to do that on the show. Sorry, Paul. Cool. Alright, so let's go on. Let's get on with the show. Shall we. We have three pages of Google doc stuff to get through. All right. Yammer through. All right. Taylor. Come on. If Washington, whatever they're going to be called next year, if Washington doesn't. Let's roll the dice, Washington. Let's do it. Let's give him a year to. To be the starter. I don't think they have another viable option. Smith said he doesn't know he's it's a day by day. He's going to decide in the off season. I mean, this was. We could have been the form of Moses. I had, this was the most incredible football game I saw all weekend. The donut. Did you have those milestones before 10:00 AM or 11:00 AM? No, this was, this was in the evening. Ah, but, ah, this was the most incredible thing I told Dorothy. I said, this is, Taylor's like the real life Rudy. We are going to have a Rudy Taylor high, you know, it's gonna be called hi Nikki or whatever. A movie, this is the movie. You know, COVID he's, he's at home steady and finals, right. He gets a call. Hey, we need you to come on. Comes on, you know, plays, gets the whatever. And then like, could you imagine, I was thinking about it, like, remember that was it like little big league where the guy owned the base, but he owned like the mats, right. Or the Cubs, or what was that? All the twins on the twins. Remember, and then like at the end they placed, they played that the Mariners and like Ken Griffey Jr. Was like the bad guy. And they had like, he went up and caught the ball at the end. And that was like how the, how the game ended. Couldn't you see Washington football like this movie. And they have like Tom Brady and Antonio Brown and like all these guys. And then they're like the, the evil guys that they're trying to fight off. I mean, I can see this as a movie. Right. And I don't know who would be. I'm trying to see who I think Taylor Heinicke he looks like. And I'm not, I'm not drawing any actor comparisons. Well, you would just do Sean Aston again, right? No, because he's. I told her, I go, you know, that's the guy from Lord of the rings. She goes no way. And I know this is like not a new joke, but I really did show it to her. And she had, and she was floored. Then the guy from Rudy is the same guy from Lord of the rings. I mean, if you're going to cast Tom Brady, it's got a Matt Damon, right? Okay. So yeah, because I've lived. It's in the note I wanted to cast this movie. Ah, but you know, you have Matt Damon is Tom Brady and then who, who plays grok? Who's grok. Who plays Gronk. I don't know. It's a good question. But you, you T you watch the game, right? I would say Armie hammer, but he's got a little bit of an issue right now going on on social media. I don't know if you're looking at that, but I don't. I don't. It's interesting. We could talk about that privately. Okay. So we're going to keep this PG. There aren't maybe Armie hammer. I just bet you, you get what I'm saying though? That this is like a great sports age story for. In 20, 30 years, they're going to make this movie and you're going to be telling your kids or whatever. I mean, not like I don't, I'm not gonna have kids come on. Let's be honest. But, you know, and I'm not, I'm not trying to talk like hyperbole here, but you know, when they make those like weird either, it's like the weird sports movie and the people like, Oh yeah, And it's always Disney. Yeah. Right. But like, if we, if we got 16 mighty ducks, they're bringing out, you know, Emilio again. Right. He's coming back out of the, whatever this is. I just thought this is incredible. You watch the game, right? You thought this was great. Yeah, I think, I think Taylor Heinicke use. He's one of those players that like his heart overlays, everything you could ever want from a quarterback. And I just, it's an inspiring story. It really is. He wasn't even the starter for the battle Hawks. And look at this. This is incredible. This is a great story. Yeah. And there was actually some talking about that this week with the XFL risers we were talking about, you know, why did TAMU, you know, get that start? And they just really had to do a timing. You know, remember the accent failed the first round. They did the whole thing where the one quarterback was signed email. Like we have random silvers, you know, my shirt. And LA had a Luis Perez, right? Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And then yeah, then it was kind of like politics, right? Like, okay, well maybe we have another guy, but he wasn't signed. And I think that was the deal with high Niki. Like he just got there later than taboo. They decided to go with him, but I mean, Clearly, you know, clearly shows. The talent level that was in the XFL that, you know, it wasn't seeing necessarily. And it's all about like coaching schemes and whatnot. So. There's a good chance that the St. Louis coaching. Coaching team. Preferred Tammy, when their system, as opposed to J Taylor, Heinicke you? That there's a, there's a chance of that, right? We can't be the speed that, I mean, look, what's happening in Philadelphia right now. Doug Peterson is out Gracie. That might give Carson Wentz a second chance too. Not be the highest paid backup quarterback in the league. It's going to be interesting to see what happens there, but in terms of Taylor, his, his numbers were great. He had that, I mean, who can forget the, the. He had great numbers all around, but that the thing that really stood out was that diving. Touchdown. Like that became, everybody's like, wait, they could pull this off. They could really pull this off. And it would be on brand for 2020 for a team that finished what, six and 10, seven and nine. Was it something like that? They've been like, yeah, it, it would be on brand. If a team with a losing record. That didn't have a nickname would win. As a result of 2020, that would be on brand. Yeah, there's this shirt. Circulating around. I retweeted it. It's called like it's it says the legend of Taylor. Hi Niki, and it's that shot and it seemed diving into it. And I'm really, I don't wear a lot of t-shirts I'm really close to buying it, just to show that support to have it on the podcast, just because it really does. I just. Exemplify everything that, you know, we're all people ask you. Why are you guys watching XFL staff? Why do people watch spring league? All of this is to get these guys that maybe didn't have a shot, right. He gets called up. I put the stats here. I mean, just astounding. He went like one of the blow with Brady the whole night. He had 352 passing yards, two TDS. One of those was a big, you know, diving one 59% completion, Brady 55% completion, 381 yards and two TDS. I mean, to go and do. Yeah to be within one score. I mean, it was eight points, you know? But to be within one score of the Buccaneers that have I tweeted. I said, think of all the money that they've put in to Brady and Gronk and Antonio and all these guys to come in to do this thing. And they're not going to go to the super bowl. No, they're not at all. They're not at all. Right. I mean, do you think. I don't know. I think I'll be curious. The Packers are going to go to the super bowl. But do you think the saints blood, the Buccaneers this weekend? Possibly. Yes. Possibly. That good. They gave him his coin flip for me. I mean, the saints owned the Buccaneers. Last time I played, I think right. It was like 30 minutes. They beat them twice. Yeah, I don't see the Buccaneers getting even past the saints. And if they do luckily. They won't get past the Packers are just so good. And I think people are sleeping on the Packers. I think the Packers are really good. I'm trying to think. Who's left in the AFC. I I'm not even paying attention to UFC. Yeah, it's, it's, it's a remarkable, I just think all the money, you know, this is. What Kansas city. Yeah. I mean, this is the big ride for the Buccaneers and the thing that they were within the point. And that was the thing, like, you know, we had talked last week, you know, the defense, everything. I mean, chase really didn't have that great of a game. I mean, the defense, I think if the defense would have been able to get to Brady, like they wanted and get a couple of those turnovers, I really, I really do think the game could have been totally different Buccaneers. Didn't play the bass Brady said afterward, you know, we really didn't play the best that we could. I thought we could. And so, yeah, it was, it was crazy. I, I really, really thoroughly enjoyed that and I thought it was a great look for the XFL. I do have to say though, the Washington football team, their defense was much better than that at the capital. The other day. I D I also Ian Rapoport from a rap sheet wrap sheet, Ian Rapoport. Reported that Taylor Heinicke. He suffered an AC joint sprain. Yeah. Can you play this sound? This is from Twitter. This was tailor. Yeah. I like to, I've been liking to include a little bit of this post game sound. And this was talking about the injury. Yeah. I dove in the end zone for that pylon. I reached out my arm and when I hit the ground, I felt a little click. And. No, I didn't feel good after that, you know? The next series I got hit and hit the ground a couple of times. Decided we should go in and look at it. It was an AC joint separation. You know, you came back out there and wanting to go to the doubt. And, you know, we. We put everything out there on the line, but you know, just came up. That's Taylor. I. Unlucky about his AC joint. Ah, Issue. Yeah. Cause he even got pulled like during the game, right? Like he got injured and then came back in. I mean, this really could, I mean, it had this be one of those made for TV movies or something, not way over the top, but I mean, this kid taking finals gets called, goes to the NFL to games and you know, he's off the couch. He's playing in the, in the playoff game. I mean, it's, it's really remarkable. I just thought kudos all around. Completely agree. And other former eczema Blair had a great game. This week. Of course. Of course. I was happy about this. The, the Browns beat the Steelers. Beat the pants off them. Beep beep. Yeah. Just. It was bad. We were walking. The score wasn't as close as it, as it really was. It was really much more than that. It was. They let them come back. Do I think that what we were trying to get out to walk Rosie between that we were watching the Nickelodeon staff and then we were getting on the, you know, for the Sunday night game. And I thought, yo, man, we got to get home. I eat. So I pulled it, pulled the gamble hall, my phone that's where like walking in the door. You know, and it was within 14 seconds. Right. They have that. You know, the mist snap and then the, the touchdown. I mean, I was like, man, I'm really glad I turned that, attend this game already to see it. No, but we talked about this, Michael Dunn, formerly XFL dragons. We talked, he got signed. I think it was last week. We talked about him getting called up. And he played in the game and had a hell of a game. Yeah. He finished with a pro football focus grant. I don't know what the pro football focus great is. I've never seen that before, but it's 81 was his grade. And he was the fourth highest graded. Well, there's only like four or five linemen dude. So it's not like, well, I copied some of this stuff, right. They this PFF grade that that's kind of been floating around. I see a lot on Twitter now. It's kind of how the rate and all the players and everything. Being the fourth, highest grade lineman. Of the game with the Browns is like, okay, well you did your job. But he did this. Drop off the couch. No. You're right. And he took 70% of the snaps. And you had a great game. I mean, that's probably where the game was really one was by the offensive line there. Yeah. Yeah, they said he contributed to 30th teams, 31 of the times they helped him rush for 192 yards. He actually did the game. He's hurt he's on the injury reserve right now. I saw. I hope that's accurate. I think he got injured. He is. He's on the sidelines this week with an injured ankle. I tweeted well-wishes but no. It was a great job. I mean, it was good for him. I was reading this thing on the eye. At Atlantic, right? It's one of those pay to read websites, but I, he was doing like workouts in the, in the parking lot and everything, you know, backyard kind of stuff, getting ready for the game. You're trying to get. Get in shape and get off the couch and get to do it. I mean, it's really remarkable. A lot of these guys, you know, with 2020 and everything going on, but you're finding these guys, you know, like Taylor. Calling them up, you know, we need people to play. It's it's really crazy. I mean, the Browns crushed them and I thought it was a, that was a great showing for them too. I completely agree. And I mean, it just goes to prove the point that spring football works. Spring football works. This is proof. I mean, Taylor. Well, Taylor's been able to deal with PJ has been able to do what Michael Dunn did. It works. We should start giving more love to the spring football. I have not seen my Twitter was with, with that Taylor staff on Saturday, into Sunday with everyone. I mean, it was like everyone in the world finally woke up about Taylor. Hi, Nikki. You know, the XFL people and the not, I mean, I've never seen anything like out, across everything for, for days. I mean, it was, it was really remarkable. So moving on, there is some legal stuff to deal with the XFL. First and foremost, the NFL has filed opposition to the XFL. Houston's Houston roughnecks logo. And yeah, I can see why. Well, so this broke. Paul, what is our, what is our track record with XFL news? Everything happens the day we released the podcast. Yeah. So Friday last Friday, like eight. I, this is, I swear, all this stuff like eight 35, I post the episode in the morning, but this is crazy. So basically, yeah, they're saying that the Houston roughnecks logo looks and hopefully we'll see that on my PJ Walker at Jersey here. Right logo. But it looks like the Houston Oilers logo from back in the day and it, us, and I remember when they released the logo, everybody said, Oh, clearly they're paying homage to boilers. The Oilers. I mean, that was like a given thing. And so, and this is like, cause I, I texted you. We, we got to get into this just a little bit, because a lot of people said, you know why now the XFL has been around for a year, what's going on. And so Josh did a lot of our research with XFL Noosa. That morning to try to figure out, like, why did the NFL just a file this now? And it turns out right. That they didn't, this isn't a new thing. I mean, it's kind of new in the news, right? Yeah, it looks like it. Mmm. I guess, you know, it's, it's, it's. Well, it says it's December 28th. They filed the court documents. Oh originally. So, so they, so this XFL filed this back last year or NFL filed that when the, when they all day logos came out, NFL filed it. And they basically, it got extended twice. They do them in like 60 day windows. Yeah. Originally filed December 11, 2019. Got it. And then so basically when all the bankruptcy and everything happened. They, they let it lapse or it didn't, it wasn't going through. And so now that the XFL is back the rocks in charge and all of that, the NFL is coming back now and saying that basically, I think they still sell old Houston Oilers merge. Like you can get on whatever. And so that is what their thing is, is that they are. Mooching off that. You know, And I get it right. They're using that Goodwill. You know, even though that team hasn't existed for many, many years, they're still in the stall. Defactor I mean, what do you, what do you think about this? I know, you know, a little bit about trademark stuff too. I'm completely in agreement. This is when I saw the logo. I also was like, wow. Okay. I see what they're doing there. I understand what they were doing. I was like, that probably might get them in an actionable situation, but I under, I understood why they were, you know, playing on that history. Yeah. Like you said, you know, you, they still sell vintage Houston Oilers to, if you can go on to NFL shop and buy a Houston Oilers hat. Just like you can buy a Seattle Supersonics shirt. But those shirts that are sold by like simply Seattle. Have to license the logo from the NBA. Still the NBA owns all those trademarks. So, yeah, this was just because the Oilers aren't existing actively, their trademarks are still very much valid. So I'm completely on the NFL side on this surprisingly. Cause I don't like the NFL's no fun approach to football. But I'm completely on their side on this one. I think it was a, it was a complete and utter rip off and yeah, it's, it's gonna, it's gonna end up in the, the logo being changed. Yeah, it's interesting. The roughnecks have an alternative logo. That's kind of like, it kind of looks like the Patriots guy, but he's got like a, like a worker's man hat on. It's very similar to that. So then of course, a lot of people are saying they're going to get in trouble with that too, from new England. But yeah, just putting on, you know, taking the oil Derrick and putting like a, you know, the H on it, or, you know, kind of like super imposing it. I mean, it's not, yeah. And believe me, we know this, right. You know, we, we made our, we have our exit fell, Mark House logo, and then, you know, we try to, you know, we tried to ESL stuff with it and that's where you get into trouble. Right? I mean, it's one thing you could. You could have it up on that on a website or whatever, but when you're trying to sell something, that's intellectual property of another person, you know, that's where you get into that fine line of how close can it be without, you know, and clearly they did this as a throwback. I mean, there's no. Mark Perry was like XFL new South. He goes, well, yo. Clearly someone must've done the research or whatever. It's like, no, they did this to make it look that way. So would that being said, why don't you open up a Jersey right now? It's a rough necks Jersey. It's it's topical. Okay. So, so again, so just for context, we ordered, I don't even need the scissors I ordered. This is not an open. I ordered this back whenever PJ played that game against. Who did he be? Oh, the lions when they beat the lions and this is straight from China. I'm sorry, I'm hitting the mic. Okay. All right. So you've got the line bag off. It's Oh, this is looking promising. This is we, I didn't know. So this is from our fire.com. I got a lot of people asking me, like, where where'd you get it? What's your luck. What's whatever. This is looking really good. I got some there's some bonus like Stefan here. Sorry. This is terrible. If you want to watch the video of this, you can go to a XFL show.com/youtube. This is terrible podcasting right now. Terrible for audio purposes. Yeah. Terrible for audio. I at least hope. The rough necks. Thing is in the middle. Not off center. What do you mean? Fall. Okay. Okay. Look centered. There you go. Alright. Not bad. I think it looks pretty good. Microphone. Rubbing the mic. I mean, it's, it's a little, I mean, the patch works a little, a little sh you know, it's, it's got some frayed, whatever, but. I mean, shoot, I don't think you would walk down the street and anybody would say that this was a problem. Good. On the back Yankees fans don't agree with that, but see, you got the, you got the D. Yeah. I don't know if Rita can do this, but maybe read can superimpose during this moment. Right now, put the Houston Oilers logo up. And just show the difference between the two logos. Cause it's, it's, it's too similar and it's, it's definitely, it's a nice Jersey. Yeah, you got PJ Walker on the back. It's a medium. Which medium or medium. I mean, it's a little thin, right? Like it's a little thin it's so it's, it's stitched on, but it's definitely like a thinner, but I think it's great. And then I've got some, like, They put some patches in here. I don't know what these patches are. This is interesting. I'm curious, the badges. Inaugural it's Raiders inaugural 2020 Las Vegas Raiders patches. And the Superbowl, whatever this Superbowl is this year, how do we, is it 55, 54. So that would be last year, Superbowl. I believe. There you go. I mean, this is crazy. This is, this is great. I'm going to put this on today. This looks great. Sure a Superbowl. Yeah, this. Yeah. I mean the pats on the back, I mean, the number has got, I mean, if you, if you want to be OCD read there, there's a couple of tiny little issues, but I would say for the $32, I spent on that with shipping. You're never not OCD rate. Well, I know, but I tell you art fire.com. I'll send you the link. Send me an email. XFL. Mark has.com or X about Mark acid. At gmail.com and I'll, I'll send that. That was great. Cool. All right. Let's blow through this other legal stuff that we got going on here. XFL, according to court docs was never interested in Johnny Manzell. Yeah, this is, you know, man's, L's obviously in the news with all the fan controlled football staff, he was down in Texas last week, shooting promo videos with right Austin. This is all coming out. As part of the, the other story we have to cover is Vincent man, this counter suing all of our luck now for the wrongful termination and all of that. And remember we've been covering the cell phones, getting the passwords, all of her luck stuff and all that. And in that. You know that discovery it's come out. That Vince sound a lot of really bad texts about all of our, like talking to Johnny Manzell. Do you want to read any of those or do you want me to read those? I'm trying to see if I can catch up here. So. How long are you going to play this game all over? You know, there's no chance in how for bands to play for us. I will not change my mind. So what's your plan? Which is okay. Do you. Here's a real question though. Do you really think that Vince texts like no chance in hell, I guess Vince, that big of a Vince Mark. Yeah, I think he is. That's the thing like Vince, doesn't like to get credit on WWDB but yeah. He's he's he programs the WWE product for one person, a one person audience. Himself. Yes. So, yes, I do believe Vince is secretly a Mark for themselves. Vince is literally like tax his own catchphrase. That's the joke. Like his song, his theme song and everything. It's like no chance in hell. Yeah, so it's yeah, a lot. Tax backing events. We have no intention of signing him were just milking the story to stay in the news. I'm happy to rule them out. I mean. I get it right. They got a lot of, I remember when all this was going on, I remember all of this, the summer showcases, they got a lot of publicity and the fact that Johnny Manzell was on there, but Vince didn't want, and then we have more info about this today, too, with the Antonio Callaway stuff. But. Vince didn't want any guys that had questionable backgrounds to be Indiana. Or in the XFL and that has to do with Johnny Manzell as well, and some of his past up. And here's what I think is the reason why Vince didn't want this because Vince. I'm trying to think of a way to phrase this. Vince didn't want people that had character issues. Cause he didn't want the league to be challenged. Like the NFL has been challenged by the Colin Kaepernick situation. And many other players, he didn't want this league to be challenged. Politically, why it's players the way the NFL house. So I think that was the whole reason why this was put into place. And yeah, of course you mentioned, and to Antonio Callaway, he was suspended for 10 games in 2019 for a substance abuse policy. We're not sure. Do we know what the substance was that he was busted for? Because if you don't, if you have Adderall in your system and you can't find your prescription, then you're busted for a substance abuse policy. Even if you are prescribed it. Well, I'm gonna look into that. Yeah. Cause, cause this goes into it too. Possession of marijuana. Okay. So, yeah, so basically there's a lot to dive through here, but basically Vince. Yeah. There's a lawsuit going on, Vince fire all over, all over says for wrongful termination, he's doing for his money. Now, Vince is counter suing. Stay in there. All of our luck owes about half a million dollars back to the XFL. Vince is trying to make the XFL whole. It's not going back to Vince. It's going to the XFL fund. And part of that has to do with the money that the league spent to hire Antonio Callaway, which is also in the, we're going to talk a little bit more about him later, but yeah, so he, the Antonio Callaway thing, and it was the fact that, that all of her lock kind of wasted. The time and resources doing all of that. That was kinda the first thing that really ticked Vince off with Oliver was this Antonio Callaway. And then him kind of leading that Johnny Manzell thing on. So all this lawsuit stuff all goes back to kind of this, this was the impetus of all of that stuff. And of course, you know, Antonio Callaway also had a credit card fraud charge. Back in 2017, third degree felony charges, the credit card fraud. So. You know, I, I understand that Vince didn't want players with questionable backgrounds, but. At the same time. Getting Johnny Manzell would have helped. I'm not saying that they needed help per se, in terms of like, In terms of getting eyeballs on the product, but it would have got more eyeballs on top of the eyeballs that were already there. I mean, the ratings are great. They're tenants was great. Yeah. It's it's it's. I think it was, it's like shooting yourself in it's cutting off your nose to spite your face, so to speak. And June Jones of course, set in early upset, or at least September leading up to the XML draft. That Johnny Manzell was on five lists. And one of those lists was his. And how many teams were there? Eight. Yeah. So he was, it was, it was in high demand. So we're talking like 60% of the teams were interested in having Johnny Manzell play football for the XFL. And we want to say congratulations. Calloway has signed to a futures deal. With the chiefs. Which that was kind of, it just, that's why I kept telling him about this. And I know you, he messaged you. Y Y you know, we just tied through, cause there is a little bit more about the entering of Callaway. Cause it's interesting. He got signed and we'll get into the Jordan taboo in the chief's thing too here in a second. But I Callaway got signed to a future state with the cheese and I was the one that messaged. I go, Hey, wasn't this the whole, wasn't this one of the guys that Vince was really mad about all of her about. And everyone was like, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. I go, well, isn't that interesting because it's also in the news right now that Vince is counter suing all. Over for the fact that he signed Antonio Callaway back in the XFL. So that's why it's kind of all interconnected that way. It's just weird. Timing that Antonio Callaway would be back in the news, getting signed to a cheese future deal. At the same time, we're Vince is counter suing all of her lock for hiring him in the XFL in the first place. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah. It's interesting to say the least I didn't. I didn't really know what the future's contract. Was about. I guess basically what it is is you sign these players. In the season or postseason. And their money. And what. What position they play on your team? It doesn't count against your limits or your salary cap. So basically. Anybody who signs a futures contract right now? I'm I'm taking, I'm assuming. Oh, they're on the reserve. I'm looking it up right now. Cause I don't know much about the futures contract because there's a new thing that's been happening with the spring ball league. I think the futures contract is becoming a thing that people are, people are definitely using. A lot of teams are definitely using a lot more. So I guess it doesn't count against. Your man limit cause it's 53 men you're allowed only 53 players. And then it doesn't count against your salary cap to assign someone to a futures contract. But next year, It does count against your salary cap and the 90 man cap limit out of spring training. I'm going to spring training. I'm sorry. Summer practices. Yeah. It's a lot, but anyway. Yeah. So it's just interesting to me, you know, Vince is back in the news, the counter suit. They Antonio Callaway thing. There's a lot going on the texts coming out about Johnny Manzell, you know, sorry to like legally is dump a lot of stuff. Yeah. The listening, but, but there is, it's a lot of it's, it's a really fluid situation. We kind of thought that this was going to be done with that may be Vincent Alvar. We're going to sell this out of court, but now that he is counter suing for the half million dollars plus. It's just like, this is going to be another two years. Yeah, it just was interesting too. And we don't need the it's the same article, but this story also made USA today. So I mean, clearly people ask where you're, where are you covering this? It's the best. This is like new stuff. I mean, this is, this is all. You know, all of our lock former commissioner, Vincent man, former owner. I mean, th this is new stuff. I think people are interested in this and I like to keep up-to-date on it. Also future signings. The Eagles are signing from where university of Buffalo quarterback, Tyree Jackson, to a features deal. And moving into tight end. Interesting. They're they're doing a lot of things, but the Eagles with the Eagles where they're signing quarterbacks and moving them like Kahlil. For example, they've signed him and moved him to wide receiver. That I guess they're doing the same with Tyree Jackson. I'm moving them to tight end. He was the former defenders backup quarterback and lived led the defenders. To a win over the battle Hawks on March 8th. How was he playing because Charmaine Jones got hurt. Cardell. This goes back to when Cardell Jones came out, had the good game. And then I don't know if you've ever heard about this. There was the Sonic movie curse where Cardell Jones. This is a real thing where Cardell Jones won the first two defenders games. And there are the first one or whatever. And then he went and saw the Sonic movie and then he stuck at suc suc stunk, whatever ever since then. And so in that game, they were playing the ballot Hawks and he came out and played like the first drive and wasn't doing great. And so they benched him and they brought in. You know, the, the, the backup. And he actually led them. He was kind of like a runner. It was kind of like a taste, some Hill kind of thing. And he was, he was running the ball around, but he's a big guy. He's like six, seven, 250 P I mean, he's a huge guy. Moving him to the sideline. Makes sense. Makes sense. So we're gonna take a break real quick. We're not done with our XFL news, a lot of XML news read stuffed it. So we'll do, we're gonna take a break real quick, come back and talk more XFL news and more NFL news for that example, for that. For that. Matter. We got it. We're back. I told you there was a lot. Sorry. Yeah. You did warn me. Other news that's happening in the NFL. Dwayne Haskins is visiting the Panthers this week. In fact, finding mission. You know what that's about. Well, we talked, you know, he got like a Washington football. They said the only reason we're even covering this people, why are you covering the Dwayne Haskins? You know, he was the backup they got fired. And then Taylor, hi, Nikki got on. But he, yeah. We talked about it last week. Yep. PJ's on the Panthers. I don't think he's longed for that world. I think he's gone. I think, I mean, there's no, we just speculate on here, but it's very interesting that they would be talking to other QBs and talking about. Drafting the QB at number eight in the draft with Teddy. Well Greer, PJ Walker, all the people in the world, and you're still looking for keys. Yeah. Dude, this is becoming, this is becoming a real mess and Carolina, and hopefully we can, maybe maybe soon we can get Sheena on to talk about all of this, because I don't, this is just, this is, this is madness. What are they doing? I message her. She says she's still working through it. You know, that there's nothing really official yet, but there's a lot of when there's smoke, there's fire and there's a lot of smoke coming out of the Carolina right now. Other quarterbacks in the NFL Wolfert of course was injured in a, in a, in a situation. Against Seattle by Jamal Adams. Some people will say it's dirty hit. I disagree. Not because of my bias, but I disagree. He hit him on the shoulder or was it, was it was he led with a shoulder? And then it, it gave a Wolford. A bit of a stinger. And then a Wolfer was taken to the hospital. Yeah, we had our big episode. Last week. Lady met. Either a hungry, like a Wolf for all this stuff. And then I was working in for the first, like half hour of the, of this young scan. When you texted me, you go. And I go, how's John doing? How's the game you go. Oh, well they fear that he went to the hospital. Just looked like a seriously bad hit. And I mean, it's Jamal Adams for you. Like he's a, he's a bruiser. But the thing is we, we, we say Jamal Adams is a bruiser, but you and I both had more interceptions. You. And I both had the same amount of interceptions Jamal Adams had this year. I on a side note, you know, so Wolford, AAF quarterback, right. Played for the Rams. It's still a questionable, they had golf out there doing wraps. I saw he had these weird gloves on because of his broken finger or is broken thumb and all of that. But, you know, goth might get the start on a Saturday against the Packers, which I, they tried to sell that on. On football this week, that that was going to be a game. I think that the Packers are going to hackers. Is it gonna roll? It's gonna be bad. Not even close. But anyway, Wolford could be out again. We'll see. Hopefully I, hopefully we don't jinx them again because the second I saw that, that man did, we jinxed him by doing our whole episodes around him. We might've jinxed. I think that's the way it works. Yeah. So. Moving on. Sorry. I had to stifle a cough there real quick. Moving on. Jordan taboo. Again, released. He said he got, he got, he was on the cheese. Then he got released. He was on the lions. Did he got released, then he like went back to the cheese for a day and then got, let go again. That's supposedly they're going to sign it back to a future steel once the season they're trying to make room right now, four. For hot for a wide receiver. I'm here. Yeah. I mean, this is most of the world's most interesting man trying to track the MEA. I feel really bad for this guy. I mean, this is like up and down rollercoaster world, but he's getting paid somehow some way. Yeah. I'm gonna like these, these cuts, like he's probably making a week to week paycheck, but that week to week paycheck is not anything to sneeze at as well. So. I guess that, you know, with a futures deal, he would be able to sign again with the team when counting gets a 53 man limit. And then yeah. You know, he could, he could, he could be a difference. Later on. You know, later on next season, if God forbid anything happens to 'em. To Patrick Holmes. But yeah, I think that that Jordan has got to stay there. I think that's, that's the place where. They like him. I mean, they brought him back after he signed with another team. So. Patrick Bahamas tweeted a Yoda. Like he was all excited when he was getting signed back. Mike Mitchell in our accent fell pipe dreams was like, this was in that 12 hours or whatever that he was back on the chiefs before I got like, Oh, again, he goes, what if, what. If the cheese and it may get to the Superbowl and then no. The home's goes down in Townsville. That would be the real Rudy story. Tom who comes out to lead the chiefs to victory. Wow. That'd be interesting to say the least. This is the Mark. CASSE sorry. What do you expect from us? We're marking out right now. Former Dallas renegades head coach in Oklahoma head coaches should say to Bob stoops has been voted into the college football hall of fame. So congrats to him. That's not that's that's to be expected. He was a, he. They still hold him in such high reverence in Oklahoma. And that was really interesting that he resigned. He retired so soon. Like it was just a sudden, it would just, all of a sudden he was done. He's on a, if you want to, I'm not going to do it, but if you want to, he's on bootcamp. If anyone's at Bob stoops, Mark, and you want to pay it, like I'm not going to do it, but if you want me to pay like 150 bucks or whatever, he's on there. I'll give you a shout out. Oh, speaking of quarter coaches that retired, it's looking like urban Meyer is going to join the Jaguars too. So. Interesting interesting times with coaches saying they're going to retire. Then coming back cause the, the. The pole of getting back in the game. Is is a lot. So they're all in, on urban Meyer in J in Jacksonville. I mean, does he have, I mean, they're really like, they haven't talked to anybody else. They're like, we're not calling anybody else. They are. They're head over heels in love with urban Meyer. And I mean, I think urban Meyer also the same time knows. There's one. I mean, he's dominated every single school he went to, he went to Utah, he went to bowling green. He made that mid-major, he got them in the bowl games and they had like two losses. During his time there, he took you to Paul. And, and gave him an undefeated season and have them play in the Fiesta bowl in Arizona. He went to Florida. Won a national championship there. Went to Ohio state one there. Urban Meyer's conquered everything and it's been put in front of him. I think there's an ego thing here. I'm not saying that a bad way. I'm just saying that urban Meyer would love to probably win at this level because everyone talks about college coaches go jumping up to the next level and not having success at the next level. So I think urban Meyer wants to break that myth and it will be good for his ego to know that he broke that. Yeah. I mean, I just, they were checking them out on yachts and stuff and doing dinners. I mean, I've been reading this streak. Ian's been talking, it's been a lotta according they're going on. Moving on. A former XML, renegades wide receiver. Jeff [unknown], hopefully I'm pronouncing that correctly. Signed a one-year deal for the next year with the Washington football team. Yeah. Washington. They said, Hey, it works. Let's go back to the XFL. Let's figure out what's going on down there. And yeah. Oh, the WFT WTF. Yeah. You have to, I still want a high-key Jersey. They don't have the custom ones on there. I really do want to hide a key. I think they don't have the, the customs on there because it's probably going the way I know. Yeah. I mean, they're getting a new name. Yeah. You're XFL notebook is available or did it get sold again? It got sold again. So we talked about this, just this a quick note. We talked last week. Bailey Carlin I had is a former XFL. He did the social media for them. He had the notebook listed on eBay. Someone bought it, they didn't pay. So it's all free for more. He made 100 bucks on it. So some Mark out there for 100 bucks got the XFL employee notebook. It was not me. It's not Dorothy. It was not me, but I, yeah. So just there you go. Marks in the world. If you bought that notebook in your lesson and hit me up, we'll get Sean. And the debt and Danny and rocker launching a new energy drink. Why? With all like with all the stuff that we're talking about, we're throwing that in there too. Yeah, well, it's just interesting. It's called Zola energy. I will tell you, I watch a lot of shark tank, energy, drinks, and drinks in general. Are they like one of the toughest markets in the world to crack into rock has already struck gold with Tara mama. On that we really need another energy drink. We really need another story about the rock and Danny. Well, I tell you people, I will tell you actually, fall fans get mad when they see the rock doing stuff that isn't the XFL. So that is why I put it in there is because people. Got it. That's people get upset about this. Folks it's not happening until next year. The rock needs to do other things. The guy sleeps maybe two hours a day. I'm just saying. So let you, he's got 22 hours to deal with. He's got a kit, the gym for three hours. And then he's a father and then he makes a movie every week. Like, like, like he's a busy man. So, of course, he's not going to like spend 24 seven, we're going to the XFL where we'll buy it. We'll do a, we'll do a zinc taste test and that comes out. We'll do that. Sugar-free I can't do it. I'll do it. I'll do it. I'll wear my PJ's Jersey and I'll do as though energy drink casing. All right, we're going to take another break, come back with some TSL signings and some fan controlled football news. Yup. Lots of stuff. Sorry. And we're back. Supersized episode. Some reason. Some TSL signings. Mason Bennett signed with Hamilton tiger cats. He played on the defensive line for the blues at the spring league. Yup. Dave David Grayson signed with the Winnipeg blue bombers. He played for the alphas and the TSL Joe Walker signed with the Ottawa red blacks. He played for the blues as well. And Javan Durante. We'll be suiting up for the Ottawa. Red blocks. He was also in the blues. So once a blues getting signed. Following a lot of this stuff. Again, I do my best, but yeah, we're, we're going to be following the CFL, getting in there and a lot of these spring league guys coming in and it's, you know, it's just cool to see you track them around and should be good. We're going to, we're going to pick our teams and stuff here as we get the CFL going. All right. So I'm Mike Tyson, I guess, is out of the fan controlled football is I want I'm saying. Yeah. So we're in the fan control stuff. Now, there is a lot of stuff on this. Ah, so this was my own and I was tweeting with a couple of Twitter guys about this fan controlled football has never announced this, but when they brought on Renee Montgomery last week to be one of the team owners. For the beast with Marshawn Lynch and Miro. I know this, that Tyson wasn't like the, normally they would tweet at him. And I went on the fan controlled football website and Tysons no longer listed on there as an owner. So what I think is. He either didn't want to do it anymore, or he wasn't pulling his weight or whatever. It seems weird because he's pretty hot right now off of that big boxing thing. Right. You would think that like, yeah. It wasn't that he wasn't. Like, it was like he got into trouble lately and they're like, Hey, we got to get like Mike Tyson outta here. I mean, I think that's weird that he got pulled from. I mean, he was in a lot of the marketing stuff. I think what's happening is you're seeing a lot of the owners tweet about their teams and Mike Tyson. Wasn't giving them marketing to them. And that's why I think he was replaced. I don't think it had anything to do with anything else. Other than that, I think, yeah. I think Tyson is, is getting ready for a serious run back in the ring. And I'm sorry I watched the fight. There's no way that was a draw. There's no way that was a draw Tyson one. I think that, you know, that drive to get back in the ring is what's motivating Tyson right now. And it probably didn't have the time to market it. That's probably what happened. But he's got people. I mean, I would just think, I know he's busy. I know he does a signing like every other week at that sport shop in LA. Like every time you walked by that in the 400, I might hire is going to be your next period, Tyson. Look at me here again. Pete Rose in Vegas, like he's at, he's at this one place in Caesar's every weekend. And you're like, Oh, you know, we want to do something else. We'll get Pete Rose's autograph. Why not? I just thought that was interesting. He is not on there anymore. So it's, it's Marshawn, Renee and Miro, supposedly as the BESE owners with Tyson BNL. Awesome. They've arrived in the bubble as of Monday. Yeah, they're down there in Atlanta. They're either like quarantined and I'm in the hotel rooms right now. So there's a lot of players with things on the floor and the hotel rooms, like. Like running and stuff like doing pushups and stuff like in the hotel rooms, because they're, they're, they're quarantining them right now, I guess, you know, going through the protocols and all of that, but they're very lots of tweets about people. Happy about the food. And I don't know if that's a dig at the spring league, but it seems really weird that a lot of people are like really good food. When a lot of players just came off of supposedly not so good food in a bubble with the spring Lake. I totally a Dick. Totally. Subtweets totally. Yeah. I mean, I just they're like who is ever in the kitchen, we gotta get this guy cutting into that. I just, it's interesting to me that there's a lot of stuff going on with that. The draft is going to be held on February 10th per Patrick DS and Josh Davis. Yeah. What I mean. People are just picking their players anyway, right now, right. Johnny Manziel is going to go play for, you know, What draft? Well, here was my question. I tweeted this, I said, okay. So the first cause they're drafting every week, I said the first draft is the 10th. And supposedly the first game is February 13th as. That seems a little tight. To me. And Josh Davis said, yeah, that's not a problem. I said, well, It is. I understand that you might not perceive it to be, I'm just asking people as in, I don't know. I mean, I get that. You're going to be shuffling these guys around at seven on seven it's. You know, you're not dealing with 11 guys and all this stuff, but it's still that I will be curious to see how the play goes the first couple of weeks when they're shuffling these guys. I would imagine after a while, Maybe you keep some of the teams together cause people just vote. They, you know, you vote in blocks every week, maybe. So like, okay, let's keep all these guys together. But that first week I don't care how much you've practiced. If you only have three days as a team. This, this here's the argument that I've I've had I have with this. And it's the one, I guess, knock I've had on this. It's the same argument I have with the people that are really pumping numbers in baseball. It's like there are intangibles you can't measure. And the tangibles you can't measure in baseball or like, The heart and the will and the drive and determination. In the numbers game, Curt Schilling, would've never been able to pitch with a bloody sock. Intangibles in terms of team building our team chemistry. And what if we have chemistry issues? Yup. You don't work those out in three days. I don't know. Well everywhere. I'll tell you when the spring league came back for that championship game and the generals flew in to. You know, for that. Everyone said, man, that first half of the game, they just did not, they were sluggish because they hadn't practiced together. They had done like one walk through, they came in. It doesn't matter how good the guys are. You got Brian, Scott, you know, MVP quarterback and all this stuff. You need time to develop chemistry with these guys. And so I will be curious week to week how that goes. You know, if you're pulling guys and moving them around, it's one thing to draft him on paper. It's another thing to draft them, you know? Fan controlled football players are going to supposedly have nicknames on jerseys. He hate me. Well, that was, that was my little clip that. Why not. It's totally stealing from the XFL. I mean, you got Ray Austin. He was in the XFL. Oh one. I was, I I've been between a lot with alternate football scout on Twitter this week about all this stuff. That is a total rip off of the XFL, putting the nicknames on there. There's no question. You're repping. I know, I know. Austin was involved with the XFL. What do you think about that? Like gimmick infringement with them, you know, we're talking about trademark infringement. What do you think about gimmick infringement with the fan controlled football on the nicknames? Did, did the XL ever like. Trademark that because if they didn't then I think this is fair game. Saying, just in general, they're just ripping off the gimmick. I like the gimmick. I've always liked the gimmickry. I thought it was cool when I was a kid and I think it's cool now. I think it like having nicknames on jerseys is fun. This is probably the fun is supposed to be about the fans. And I think the fans will gravitate towards something like this. What would your nickname be? I don't think we should say that. It ends with a D how about that? Oh, here's long. Seven letters long and that's fine. Okay. They're going to have a one hour running clock during games. It's going to simulate, you know, like Madden and stuff. That's cool. That's news tidbit, alternate football scout. If you, if you're in any of this. Fan controlled any of this alternative stuff, I'll tell you man, like, but yeah, that's I got the news from him about that. Our clock. It's not going to stop for like incomplete. It's now the balance and all that stuff. So that's going to be a quick, give me a quick, quick, yeah. It's gonna, it's gonna keep the attention. Definitely. Not seeing the people and pay attention to football games now, but this is definitely going to keep your attention. And, you know, how are they going to win or they're going to run ads to kind of support this too. So what's on Twitch. So don't, they have like, Oh yeah. And they have sponsorships. That's true. I mean, there's Twitch, just like put banners and stuff of. No, probably like in the scoreboard or something, they'll probably do that. When you pointed out that soccer doesn't have commercial breaks that went. Our mind. Thinking about that. Soccer has no commercial breaks. It doesn't. Jerseys were released. This morning, this is fresh off, fresh off the news. This morning jerseys. I remember we voted about this about 18 years ago. It's a really long time. To announce it. All gradients, the beast is terrible. And then this app isn't, doesn't have a gradient. That's what I'm saying. They're left out of the party. They're there. Like everyone else got the gradient. Hey, it's a costume party. And then they got the wrong, they got the wrong invite to the party. Another fan controlled football voting thing is all 14 was like the playoffs. So the question is what's the best way to see the teams. Yeah, this is I, this is the dumbest thing in the world at, we need to read through this just cause it's so dumb. This is what we're voting on now. We voting just concluded for, is it a reception for one foot in bounds or two feet? I believe one foot's gonna win that one. So now we are voting on playoff seating. Can you break this down? This is the dominant. This makes sense. This makes sense. Okay. So the one seed plays the four seed, right? That's typical. That's how it works in every playoff situation. Then there's a gauntlet and this is like, this is kind of, I guess, Unfair. The four seed plays. The three seed where that game plays is to seed. And the winner of that game plays the one seed. So basically you got a team that's going to play three games now, potentially. I don't like that at all. No, I do like to pick your own adventure though. The fans of the team that has the one seed. Choose their opponent. They could basically go. Okay. While the second best team is this team. Our team beat the crap out of them when they played them. So we want to play him again, even though the two seed, we want to play them again. Cause we're better than them. And we've proved it numerous times. So then they play the two seat and the three and the four would play each other. And the one seed would set that up to kind of like, you know, depending on. They could, when they could easily. I like to pick your own venture. This is, I think we're getting in the weeds here. I, I don't think people care about this. I would say as every other sport is done in the history of the world, that you should do it, you know? One more, two, three. Yeah. That's standard. I mean, I would say, but yeah, that's the thing right now. You are. FCF. FCF l.io or whatever their vote for that. Yep. Yup. Coaches in the FCF. One that we wanted to talk about specifically was drew Tate. Yeah, this is interesting. We don't have to go through all the other coaches. They released the coach list this week and drew Tate is on there and people go, okay, who's street. Hey, who's this guy. So it was brought to my attention. That drew Tate. Remember when we covered that whole adjustment Macmillan fight in the spring league, like 18 years ago and he punched the blues coach and then you got pulled to the ground and all that. That coach is to Tate. Great back he's back in fan controlled football. That's crazy. Do you think that's nuts? He got in a fight with a player on the field and he's back. That's something else. I don't know. What was the decision there? Why was that decision made? Well, I mean, I, I, I'm sure they're just bringing, you know, bringing in like strength coaches and all this other stuff to work with these guys. But it was, it was crazy to me that that was brought to my attention that, Hey, this tree, Kate, remember that that was the same guy, that guy we did a whole episode. We called it spring league, smack down. You go back and listen to it. But yeah, Justin McNeil and he got, let go from the spring league. After that, they claimed it wasn't because of the fight, but we all know it was called. Quintin flowers signed with a fan controlled football league. He was going to be with adjusters and he was in the XFL. So he was the big name. He didn't show up the spring league. He, they, he, that's kind of one of the reasons why we picked the Jaster as he was going to be the star quarterback for them. And then I think his agent like signed him up and he didn't know I'd been messaging him on Twitter. He's down in the bubble right now. And he seems to be having a good time. But that's a big name. It's a big name for the, for the finger touch football. People are really excited about that. Other big names. Marshawn Lynch has a little brother Devontae. Has signed. That's cool. That's according to all football scout, that's not, I don't think fan control is put that out yet, but, but a couple of these have been brought to my attention from the alternate football scout on Twitter. Yeah, Marshawn Lynch's brother and then Thomas Rawls. And I think you probably know a little bit about Thomas Rawls. Former Seahawk, former. I believe you play for Jacksonville as well. Yeah, he was a, he was in Jacksonville for a little bit too. So Thomas role is getting another shot at playing some professional football. That's cool. And he was like the pro, they thought he was going to be like the protege for Marshawn Lynch. That was like, That was the big thing and it ended up not working out. So hopefully it works out for him with the fan controlled football league. Moving on. Big big, big signs. Do you want me to do it? And do we want another commercial break for the garbage segment? Or do we want to just roll through? Let's just roll through it. Let's just roll through it. This was the problem I was worried about with Nickelodeon. Oh, yeah. So. Did you watch the Nickelodeon broadcast? Right? I literally tried, dude. I really did. And I'm not trying to like knock it. Yeah. I tried. I tried so hard, but it got to be so bad. It got to be like, Like, you know how people complained about mansplaining. That was basically what I was watching. And I was just like, I can't. I can't do this anymore. Yeah. It said like, I think like, so we're talking about Sainsbury's I think like 36 million watched it on CBS and then they got 2 million on Nickelodeon. That's pretty good. I mean, I don't know what, like SpongeBob replays get on Nickelodeon, but that was, it was good to expand the audience to a very young audience. I completely see why they did it. Just wasn't for me. The slime cannons were cool. I saw that slime canons come up for a second. You know, when someone's going to touch down, that was cool. Yeah. Did you see that the slime cannons shot up when the St score the first touchdown? Yeah, that guy is like famous in history forever. He's the first guy that ever got a touchdown in the slime zone. So a quarter rail Patterson dropped an F bomb. You knew that was coming. Yeah. During the door, the cottage, we were watching the game. She goes, that guy just said the F word. I went back and recorded a bit. And I said, that guy didn't even say the effort. Mitchell Trubisky one, the Nickelodeon valuable players that way. VP. Mitch Trubisky and the bears are out of the playoffs. Mitch Trubisky one, the NVP. The only losing bears quarterback ever again, the MEV. Like, he's not even the starter half the time in Chicago. Well, the kids don't know that the kids are voting on that he got, there was like a fan vote during the game was who wants to get the MVP and it's a Trubisky. So he can, he's the only, he's the only player ever to get the MVP. So never let that barrier when they embarrassed. Cut you now, Mitchell Trubisky never. Lose that in your heart, that you were the MBB. Speaking of former MVP's Kurt Warner, unfortunately has coven. What is with our life ball. We talk about Scott van pelt gets COVID. Back on the mat. Kurt Warner had Kobe. He also tweeted that he was watching the ad, the Nickelodeon broadcast with his son. I thought that was wonderful. He said the son has never watched a football game and full with them before and they watched it together. So I thought that was really heartwarming. Did he run any of those tweets by his wife first? Real question. This is so fricking funny. So he was on the NFL update, whatever thing they have in virtually. Cause he wasn't on this week because he had COVID he was at home, but he had. They do their picks every week for the game. And he had like this chain on that was like the winners chain or, you know, like the interception chain or, you know, the guys like where all that stuff and football. And they go, Oh, I like your chain. He goes, Oh yeah, my wife. For me and I go, Paul. Fall is totally right about that is he's totally wet by his life. Yeah. I mean, the, you see the. Like go back and watch the press conferences. When there were like quarterback controversies, his wife is sitting right there next to him. And she's taking questions too, when she's talking to. It's interesting to say the least. Friend of the show. Chad Johnson, he's getting married. So congratulations. Interesting. I want you just to play this audio. There's no clowns this week in the, in the, I want you to have bins for that. It's a short club, also happy belated birthday to each other that you're seeing who is 43 years young. He was born on January 9th. Just celebrated a birthday, but this is the funniest freaking club. And then we can't forget, we have to name the garbage segment before we go, or we gotta talk about it. And relationships where relationship we're talking about men and women, or, you know, Listen, man, woman, woman. I'll stop you right here. Relationships when, when any woman comes into my life. Maybe what comes first. Ooh. Okay. Nothing else needs to be said by you. FIFA chattel as FIFA. I love FIFA too, but if I'm in a relationship. And my girlfriend comes out of the bedroom. FIFA. No, no, no, no. FIFA is going away. He's like doing some show. It's like, I dunno what this is. It's like some internet show. He keeps posting on Twitter, but it was him talking to a guy. He goes, well, what's more important. He goes, FIFA. Nothing else matters. Wow. Real quick. So we have four votes for it. We're gonna, I'm gonna do a poll this week. I wrote a quick, I know you want to go renaming the garbage segment. So we'll Purvis your co-hosts that will house wants to call it red socks, red socks zone. Should we call it red sock zone after all? Yeah. Okay. Huh. Cause the red Sox are garbage. Okay. Dorothy wants to call it the Mark castaways. Like the Castro. My wife. And so I, she wants to have the sound effect, be like a Wilson from Tom Hanks, like Wilson, Wilson. And we could do that. Mine was going to be reads a little nuggets of gold. And then what would you like yours to be? And I'm going to type it down here and I'm going to do pull this. The stuff that annoys Paul at the end of the show. I know. Paul. And of the shell. Perfect. So we're going to do a fan belt this week, where they're going to do it onto it. It reads the nuggets of gold. The stuff that I know is Paul at the end of the show, red Sox zone or the Mark castaways. I think I've already got the winter. Well, that's. People people are gonna vote for that. Cause it's funny. People be like, yeah, we know you talked about all the time. Don't want the Google doc being three pages. We've got through it. We did get through it. We have to, we didn't even go that long. We're an hour. We got through all this stuff. We're like 58 minutes recorded, right? Yeah. Yeah. There you go. We did it. We did a quick, fast episode. So I appreciate that. And I appreciate everyone for listening. Again, of course, XFL show.com/review. XFL show.com/merge to get the very few items that are up right now. We're going to add more soon here in a bit. Just log on and buy some merchant support the show, leave us a review. We appreciate your reviews. Chat with us on YouTube. Go. Go to youtube.com and search out the XFL. Mark cast, chat us up on YouTube. If I see your comment and you say something like the Phoenix Cardinals sell out the stadium all the time, you know, I'm going to call you out for that because it doesn't, it's not true. Please don't. Yeah, don't let your patronage of the show will be dissuaded by Paul correcting you. Thanks again.

XFL Markcast - Episode 22 Hungry Like The Wolford

Another week. We're going to try this again. We were going to make it nice and easy today, and then zoom decided to take her out, take a crash. So we're back here. We're going to go through a one time. It's no edits, no edits. No edits into it's a crazy week. I do appreciate Paul taking the time. I know if you know your day job and everything going on, I was going to say, thank you very much for this. I know it's a, it's a crazy time for people listening in and you, and that. Yeah. I mean, just, it's a, it's a nutso time right now. It's hard to talk about football when everything's going on. That's going on in the world today. I mean, what we saw we're recording. Thursday, what we saw yesterday was just on Wednesday, was just. It was insane. There's just no need for this. There. It literally is no need for this. And it's like, This was. There's this whole thing was like an attempted coup. It really was, and I don't want to get too political into it. I mean, I've, if you follow me on Twitter, you know, my political leanings. Are pretty centrist, you know, like I I'm pretty much in the middle and these extreme fringes. You know that there's kind of pull the poles apart and make everyone think one another is bad and evil and it's just, that's not the way America is supposed to be. But, yeah, I don't know. I don't know what else to say, but other than like, Let's just do things the right way and, and let's, let's. Let's try to find some healing. Let's try that. Let's try to come back together. So that being said, It's gonna be hard to talk about football, but we got to do it. Yeah, I was going to say. Just my one little note. I thank you all so much for joining today, you know, for choosing us, you know, to come to you for XFL staff and kind of other nonsense. One of the podcasts. I listened to a lot Rob's sister and, you know, he does a survivor and big brother and, you know, Kind of all those reality shows I watch. And he grapples with this a lot, talking about podcasting about like dumb TV shows. And, you know, You need some escapes, right? You need some things that aren't just everything going on and no matter what you, you know, you're feeling right now. It, you know, football and everything. It's an escape. We're going to talk about some nonsense today. We've got some good XFL staff as some spring league. Updates got a lot of stuff. So I thank you for joining us and we're going to do our part. I tweeted today. I said, I only know how to do two things in this world and that's talk about XFL football and then no, I. Paul Sanchez. And I'm going to do my best to do both of those things today. So thank you very much. You already did, like before we even started. So device and my sister got me for Christmas and it's supposed to calm me down. I had to use it today. Cause I saw the Google doc is three pages. We got lots of stuff. I got a couple of weeks. We are coming off, you know, we're a podcast, people, listen, we're on YouTube people watch, please subscribe. You know, I, if you're watching on YouTube, click the little button, but we are coming off our highest viewed episode ever. I'll last week, which was great. I know our Brian Scott interviewed the great audio lessons. I was talking to Brian about that. He, you know, we were messaging Merry Christmas and everything, but yeah, our most viewed YouTube video so far. So I really appreciate everybody. I got a great note from one of our fans, Kevin, this morning on Twitter, he was asking me about the PJ Walker. Bootleg Jersey. We have coming people, you know, people ask about this stuff. Well, I know. And Dorothy too, I'm sure everybody who. People I get lost in message. Where's the justice. Esther's merge. Where is the pain? So I I'm telling you. And I talked with Brian, so we got an update on that later in the show about the Jousere staff, but people ask anyway, Kevin, Kevin left a good note. He said he enjoys listening to every week. And he said, yeah, just keep up the good work. I think he's in London. And then we did get two really nice reviews this week. Good. XFL show.com/review. If you are a fan of what we do, XFL TSL, we got fan controlled football updates. A non-creative. He said fun for all football fans. Fun banter with great Hollis. Along with great football insights. And then I jacked and can set an amazing show. This is Regal for all my ex NFL news. These guys are great. They keep the show's fun and engaging, keep rocking. And so thank you guys so much, you know, if you're fans of the show, XFL show.com/review. Every day when I wake up to a new rate, this podcast, you know, email notification that we got to review it. It really does bring joy in my heart. I appreciate it. That's good. So let's, let's, let's get into the meat of this. And let's talk about stuff that's going on. Of course. One of the big stories is Taylor. I'm going to keep playing. Did he play Sunday or no, he didn't. He might be, he might be rotated in Saturday as the, is the word. From Ron Rivera. Yeah, we hypothesized last week I say, hi, Nikki. Equals Washington, you know, for the wind, whatever my crazy I podcast out otherwise. And. He did not play. And either did the Philadelphia Eagles. So that was two things that happened on on Sunday was the other hand he didn't play. And neither did Doug Peterson's Philadelphia Eagles. I got a couple of things to say about this. So it feels like, you know, Doug Peterson. Put in native sod field. The third string quarterback in that game. And if Philadelphia had one. They had had the ninth pick in the draft and now they have the six pick. This looks like complete and utter tanking. This looks like they knew they were going to lose and they just wanted a better draft pick. That's why they put set field in and. I don't know if he could find this read and maybe you can, if you can post it right here on this video. There was a moment. Where I believe they were going to kneel down Alex Smith was. And what. Did you see this? And the guy went for his leg. The guy, one of the Eagles players went for Alex Smith's leg. And if you don't know about what Alex Smith has gone through to get back to this point, he almost died because. Of this leg injury. And then the guy. Tried to go for is flipping leg. Yeah, that was crazy. I saw that. Bush league. Yeah. Yeah, it was kind of ugly all around. You know, it was a bad luck for the NFL on Sunday night, you know, we watched, I watched, I was excited, but I'm looking forward. I'm very excited to see what this Washington defense does against Brady. I think that I chase young is, is coming for the go is. He said, but honestly, you know, Smith did not look good in the game for Washington. He liked very immobile and the thought that, ah, hi, Nikki took our headachy. Please forgive me. Taylor took first raps yesterday and today for the football team for QB. So there's a very real possibility on Saturday night in prime time that. We're going to see Taylor. At least partially with the Washington football team, which would be crazy to see. XFL player in a, in a playoff. I mean, this is, I mean, this is big as it gets. I mean, I don't think you could get a bigger game. For Taylor. To, you know, potentially be starting early skit, you know, some playtime with Alex Smith. And it's, it's just so interesting too, that Washington ended the season and the way the playoffs are set up. Division winners that have the worst records, good, you know, division winners that have, you know, don't get the buys, get to host a playoff game. So essentially Washington. With a losing record. Gets to host a playoff game. That's just crazy to me too. Yeah, they were talking, I, you know, not in good company with the Seattle Seahawks, also winning the division with the losing records back and like, right. 2008 or whatever it was, but yeah, so it's crazy. You know, I really thought this was offered not, I really thought we did the episode last week. Tailored didn't star out Smith is back, but it Rivera said, he goes, there's a very real possibility. We're going to be doing 50 50 are rotating at the very minimum. And, and like I said, he was out there today. I saw on Twitter, he was taking reps. So. Interesting. Interesting. Dwayne Haskins. Speaking of Washington football team. Dwayne Haskins aside with a new management firm. Did you see this? Yeah. So what was the name of it? Cause then Greg. Football goal line football. Yeah. So, so [unknown]. The news came out, Dwayne Haskins, you know, got, let go from Washington football. All of that dropped his party ways with this management, you know, he got lost. You know, it's a terrible, no good, very bad day for Dwayne Haskins, all around. And then when he signed with this new man. Let me answer it from I Greg parks, who covers as deaf or PW torch wrestling. And then he covers a lot of XFL over@xflboard.com. He goes, Oh, phew. For a second there. I thought it was going to have to fall like another startup football league. Cause, like I say, go line gold line sports, or go online and football or whatever. This sounded like it was going to be a. Oh, gosh. We hope Duane gets back on its. You know, there's, there's going to be a lot of competition out there to get another starting quarterback. And, you know, I don't know if the way it was going to get another chance as a starting quarterback, or if he's going to have to play a backup for awhile. Who knows, but hopefully it gets another shot. Yeah. You know, Mark, Mark Perry, Week in review is talking, you know, he might have to be going to the XFL, do all the rehab, do a little brand building, you know, show that he can play ball. I mean. You know, it didn't sound like he was, he was super popular Washington. I mean, obviously if Smith would've been healthy, we wouldn't have probably even had any of this come out, but, you know, with the COVID stuff and everything, and we already talked about this last week with Ron Rivera. It'd be an immuno compromised. I'm not a good look for him. And, but yeah, Washington's in there and all, you know, all XFL guys are going to be watching guys and girls on a Saturday night watching they're watching the football game. So. All right. So moving on to teams. Make the playoffs what's going on with Carolina. What is happening there? So we have the idea. Well, I'll tell you this. So I did a little, I got a lot of irons in the fire this week. We have no guests this week. There's craziness going on in the world. Anyway, it's probably for the better we'll, we'll straight shot through this. I've got a lot of irons in the fire and I reached out to Sheena quick. She covers Carolina Panthers, you know, over at, please forgive me for her radio station that you worked for. I can never remember. We'll look it up. She is great. I need a quick cover is Carolina Panthers. We found her on the show multiple times talking about the whole PJ Teddy and all that. Do you have a ball? 13:40 AM. Fox sports in North Carolina. Yes. And she has been so ever since the, you know, the season was done, they'd been doing all these posters and press conferences with Nat rule, PJ Walker. I guess to bury the lede. PJ, I did have some playing time again on Sunday. When, when Teddy Bridgewater got sat for the seeds Panther's game, I think maybe PJ would have wished that he would have not been put in the game because he threw three interceptions and did not have a very good showing. And, you know, would that being said, like, you know, We're sitting there going, are they going to give PJ maximal shot at this? And, you know, they have Bridgewater next year. I've talked about it numerous times for a $20 million deal next year. I think 2020 the next year after that. So they got a lot of money tied up in Teddy for the next couple of years. But now there's speculation that the pants are Panthers. Might take a quarterback at number eight. What? Yeah, there's a lot. And that's why I messaged Sheena. I said, Hey, Sheena, it seems like rule is really unhappy with Teddy. He said that he. Really needs to have a tremendous off season between now and next year. They had signed this guy, Tommy Stevens to the active roster as like a third string quarterback. Yeah, there. There's just a lot of stuff going on. I want to say don't let me forget to talk about this. Tom Berry good guy award. The PJ Walker won. But are there Teddy Bridgewater wine, but it just seems like not as all. Well, it does not look good for PJ that they're already thinking about. Going back to the draft, you know, you have somebody there that's in the system. That's with rural, Paul seems perplexed. No, they have, will they have will Greer too. Don't they? Yeah, I don't. It's very odd quarterbacks. They got four quarterbacks. Now, one of the, what is happening. Yeah. So I just. Cause they said they got, you know, Here. To be fair, you know, they bring PJN on Sunday. And, you know, three, three interceptions out of the gate. I mean, so it's not, that's not a good luck. You know, PJ's responsible for 25 or I guess now one to five wins they had right. For the season. So, you know, it's, it's not a good luck, but I don't know if he's going to get like go, you know, rule seems like he's kind of in hot water over there too, right? It didn't seem like all is well. With them and management. I know he it's like his first year. And that will kind of be a shakeup. I mean, As far as we know right now, rural is still signed on, you know, there's a bunch of teams looking for head coaches, but I did message Cina. I said, can you give any insights? She goes, I'm still working on it, but, but she'll come on. You know, if anything else comes out about this, cause not as all. Well in Carolina for PJ and Teddy Bridgewater. Yeah. There's there's no. If you're going to fire your head coach, you're going to do it now because you want to get out there and compete for the best coaches that are available. You know, the name that needs to come up. The name that I need to talk about is Eric to be enemy. Why he hasn't gotten the head coaching job yet is beyond me. The guys. This guy, this guy is so smart. And so not only played the game at the highest level, but he's such a good coach. And the, and I hope this time around, he does get a gig because I was rooting for him to get to Colorado get, cause he actually played at Colorado. He didn't get that. So I'm hoping that he gets the job this time. If the Panthers are going to make a move with their head coach, they need to do it yesterday. Because people are starting to interview and you're going to have to be left with what's left over. If you don't get rid of Matt rule, if that's the situation, I don't know. I don't know what's going on there. Yeah. I mean, but I mean, the tweet from Sheena was, you know, Matt rural says bridge rider did not play his best football this year. I mean, he's really down on him. And so, but, but, you know, do we down on Teddy and then to be looking elsewhere when you got PJ and we'll Greer? Yeah. You're signing guys from the, you know, signing guys said the active roster on speculation. Now with that Tommy Stevens without, I mean, there's just. There's a lot of I'm the rest going on and it doesn't make me feel good for PJ Walker. No. It doesn't make me feel good for well Greer, either eye. If your quarterback in Carolina right now. You gotta be wondering what's going on? Like, like, am I going to be here tomorrow? Or am I going to be here for five years? And that kind of uncertainty, you know, I know it's a business. I get it. I understand. But that kind of uncertainty lead you to go, well, what should I be doing? I mean, Should I be saving money? Should I be, I mean, always saved money, but what should I be doing? Oh, he just, this just doesn't send a good message to any quarterback from Teddy. To will. Two. It just doesn't send a message to any quarterback on this roster that any of you are the future. No, no, it was. No, they just came out. Teddy Bridgewater is a winner of the Tom Berry good guy award given annually by the Rogers chapter. I do the Panthers player, who's qualities and professionalism helped media members do their jobs. I just thought that was funny. And maybe at some point we could give on the accent. Mark has good guy. Would you, would you get. It's just the weirdest name or that Tom. Very good guy. It's interesting to say the least. You know, Teddy seems like a good guy, but you know, he seems fragile. He seems like he said he didn't play the best this year. I take it. Yeah. They take a QB, have a draft. If your Teddy Bridgewater you're running for the Hills. I mean, that is like scary. I mean, and I don't know, like Teddy Bridgewater, you know, they say he's a good guy. So maybe Ted Britt, Teddy Bridgewater's like, okay, well, let me do. Because a similar thing happened in San Diego. Where. They drafted Eli Manning and Eli Manning, who I still don't like, I know there's I have some giants fans, friends that I won't be happy with that statement because he led you guys to. Two championships, but. Eli of course got drafted by the chargers then said that he was going to contact his lawyers and make sure that didn't happen. And they eventually ended up moving up to New York and of course, New York drafted Philip Rivers and the rest is history. You know, they had a situation there where they took Philip Rivers of eventually and drew Brees was their starter in San Diego. And they were, they were like, Oh, is this drew. [unknown] experiment over in San Diego, blah, blah, blah. And they let drew Brees walk. After like two years and look what happened. So. I don't know, man. It Teddy. If Teddy is a good guy and Ted he's a standup guy. Maybe Teddy, you know, maybe they do drafted another quarterback and Teddy becomes a mentor. Then at that point, you have to like, You have to either release will or PJ, or maybe both. I don't know what's happening. It isn't because it isn't. Aaron Rodgers all shook up to you cause they drafted the guy. Right? They drafted. And Aaron Rodgers is going to be the MVP of the NFL. Yeah. It's going to happen. Oh, yeah. Without a doubt. They have been Blair. Aaron Rodgers was like, Oh, your draft, another quarterback, let me show you why you don't draft them. Their quarterback. Yeah. Is it 46 TDS and 45 pounds for the year. Yeah. He, he threw more tedious than they did kick pons. That's that's just an insane stat for the Packers. And that's, you know, people are worried about the Buccaneers. Like, you know, people are saying all the Seahawks are still going to get a super bowl in a mic. I don't know, man. The Packers look good. And Seattle's defense is finally starting to wake up a little bit. I don't know. I don't think it's a for sure thing that I think the Packers are the team to be the NFC. I do. Sea Hawk struggled to put points up against, you know, San Francisco on Sunday. I think they're they're out. That was, that was a horrible performance from. From the Seahawks. Alright, so moving on. Another NFL team with a alternate alternate football alternative football quarterback. The Rams. With Wolford. You just watch this. I, I watched a little bit of it. I watched a lot of the highlights, a Wolf. I came out, threw an interception in his first ever NFL pass. So that was, that was not, not a good luck. But I want to, I was thinking I've seen a lot of a Wolf puns this week. You know, it was like the Wolf of wall street. I've seen all over us. I was thinking of our episodes should be hungry. Like the Wolf for it. I thought that that was a good, I hate that song. I'm not, I don't love Duran Duran, but yeah. Reel big fish. This was fun. Oh, wait that. But I do like that. Is that a good time? Is that an original. I don't think, I don't think 2021 NFL presses is doing the Dranjer. Ran times. I think the Wolf of wall Wolf of wall street is a little more on, but anyway, but he won, he won a B. Chris traveler, the CFL champion. I led the Rams and yeah. Had Kyler Murray got her. Then they brought in Chris and then color came back out at the end. I mean, Remember when Arizona. And I remember when the Murray MVP talk was going on about week four. I was never going to happen. I mean. Yeah, that's the problem like Arizona bands. I mean, I mean, there, there's not that many of them. On the Cardinals band wagon right now, but Arizona fans, you know, they like. It's like the Knicks fans right now. They're really annoying. They won four games out of. They won five games now. And they're like, Oh, we're five and three. The Knicks are back and I'm like, calm down the Knicks. Aren't back. And it was like Arizona fans were like, Oh my God. Tyler Murray. Five foot five Kyler Murray is, you know, You gotta be in the MVP conversation. Look, the only reason I did they beat the bills. Right? I do believe the Cardinals did meet the bills. But with the hail Mary at the end. I mean. Hey, if it works. They said on there, if it wasn't for that hail Murray, they would have been like five losses in a row. I mean, it was like, that was kind of the saving grace. And that was, I think that's what. Got everyone excited about Kyler Murray was that one play and it's like, let's calm down. Let's calm down right now. I mean, it's not. I think Kyler still got a lot to prove. He's got some, he's definitely got some intangibles. He's got some great things that has got about as game, but I think he's still got a lot of proof. So it's an interesting note here from Ram's wire, by getting them to start Wolfer became the first quarterback ever to make his first career start in week 17 with this team splash hopefuls. Playoff hopes still alive. He threw for 231 yards and rushed for 56, which is something no player has ever done in their first career game. So he's the first quarterback to ever throw for at least 200 yards and rushed for 50 yards in his first career game. That's not bad, not bad for the a and F we've got the applause going, not bad, you know, AAF, Arizona, the hot shots, you know, proven. Like we talked about last week, you know, bruise. The alternate football thing works. You know, you keep these guys ready to go and, you know, I mean. I'm glad the rain victory. I mean, the Rams are in the playoffs. You know, it. No, you know, there was a lot of other things with teams losing and whatnot, but in no small part, because if I'm coming out there throwing an interception and then shaking it off and then went in the game. So. So let's hear from quarterback, John Wolford after the game. This is great. What was the moment like when you guys knew you needed. Lawn where you had the game put away and you're in the playoffs. Is the celebration or the congratulations any different today than it would for any would be for any other game. I've never won a game. So I don't know what the normal. Graduations feels like. So that's my first one. And I'll use that as a barometer and let you know if it changes. That's it that's. That's it. I just thought that was funny. They're like, so what. What was the wind? Like? Was it like Eddie? Are you guys. I've never, never, never want him out of hell game before Bob. So I don't really know. I never talked about Wolford, starting for golf next. In the playoff game, right? Is that what's happening? Yeah. So, so the word on the street, they asked Sean McVay, he goes, he'll have a decision. He hopes by 1:39 PM. Pacific. How many seconds. Sean. Yeah, Shawnta. John's a wily guy. I like watching Sean. I liked the Rams, you know, I see a lot of Rams games, you know, being on the West coast. I liked them. And, and yeah, this is another thing where they could either be doing a flippy flop or as split and time. Golf, you know, his thumb is broken. This is not a good situation right now. He did not look great in the game against Seattle before he got her. I mean, the announcers are already kind of like crapping all over and before all that, and then he came out, broke his stuff. You know, Maybe you just sit in for the rest of the year. I mean, I know they have like 100 million tied up in them, but it is interesting to see. Another kind of dual quarterback with a spring guy going into the playoffs. Yep. Totally agree. So I'm sorry, like I'm still like scrambling because I had to reboot my computer right before we recorded this. I'm still bringing up links. As we continue and I was just catching up on this. Donald Parham situation. Yeah. So here was my question for you. You know, Is par ham. You know, we're we're, we're ended the regular season here is on a par am. He is with the chargers. Is he the NFL MVP of the year. XFL NFL MVP. You know what I mean? I'm like, Nope. Who does the XFL MVP in the NFL? It's still PJ. You think it's PJ on one win and then like 16 interceptions. Yeah. Okay. Look and. And Mike Mitchell makes it, makes the point for me is that Justin Herbert is going to win offensive rookie of the year. It's in the bag. There's no, there's no debating this stop with Kaila Marie Marie talk, stop with a well. Kyler Murray. Is he still a rookie? No my bad. Anyway, my point is, is that up? You know, Justin Herbert is going to be the offensive. You have the year. And that's the quarterback for the chargers. And that's a quarterback for the charges. That's why I think, you know, Parham. [unknown] doing so well is because Justin Herbert is really good. He is really good. Yeah. And of course. Hi. Coats by former expo. You know, Hamilton. Hamilton. That's the other question now that they, now that they let. Now the chargers left the coach go right. You think paps long for the world over at the chargers or you think he's going to get shaken out too? I think he's got to stay. I think they should. They should bring it back. I mean, I know assistance normally get fired when the head coach gets fired. But the dude he's done great with Justin Herbert. If the, if the charger is a smart, they keep him at least Nikki. They made me keep him and the quarterback coach there in, in. Trying not to say San Diego. It's so hard because it's, it's hard, still getting used to the fact that their Los Angeles chargers all things considered. But if you're the chargers, I think you keep pep. You make sure the next coach, wherever that might be keeps pep Hamilton, because look what he's done with that. With Justin Herbert. Yeah. It really developed him into a good, a good top. Anyway, so I just have that question. Inspiring the MVP he has, you know, I think he had three TVs for the year. I had the, I have the link here. Yeah, three TVs for the year. You know, I wish they would've gone to a more early on, but you know, maybe it's the slow hand kind of thing. Slow bill. They're really kind of getting, seeing how he's going to do worky coming in. But yeah. If they had gone to a more, and he got more touchdowns than we could have this conversation that he might've done better. The BJ Walker, but PJ Walker did lead his team to a win. And that, that kind of. That puts the tip of the cap of my, my cap. In PGS camp for this one. Sorry. That's all right. And then storm, norm, and also with the chargers, he is, he's a popular, he's the popular acts that fall guy. And he's done a good year to, you know, so. It's been, it's been good for. The chargers is good. It's good for the XFL and players going over there. So. Former ex of [unknown]. Situation with this Bailey Carlin. I saw you going back and forth with. With this person on Twitter. What's that situation about? Yeah. So Bailey, he works for Barstool sports. Now he used to run the social media for the XFL and then he got laid off with everybody and he had posted on, Oh man, was it like Saturday, Sunday? I think it was over the weekend. He goes, Hey, I was cleaning out my office. I found this old XFL and play notebook, like with anyone want it, and I guess like a million people, you know, message him without if we want it. He goes, all right, well, I'll go listen on eBay and then I'll give the money to charity. Someone bought it. I asked Bailey if you would come on, he didn't, you know, maybe he's just doesn't really want to talk about the XFL anymore. Used a sell for $91. Someone paid for a used. Huh. Was it, you know, No they're already, it wasn't me. It wasn't me. I cause I, I, when I messaged him about it, I go, Hey man, did that thing ever sell? And he goes, yeah, but the guy hasn't paid yet. I think he was like, insinuating that maybe I wanted to buy it. I might. No, no, no, no, no, no. But I did tell him like, eh, If hi, Nikki, hadn't been, you know, the potential of playing for Washington. And if Wolford wasn't potentially in for the Rams, this could have been the lead story this week. So, I mean on any other, any given Sunday and any other week, the XFL, former employees telling their notebook, but it's cool. I mean, Whatever, you know, some XFL Mark, I mean, a hundred bucks for it was shipping. No, I don't know. I mean, I get it. I mean, I wouldn't, I didn't buy it, but I. I don't know. You would like to have it admitted you, you would have it. Hang it in your collection, by the way, I see that you have like a crack and flag now hanging up. Yeah on the video podcast, mama Markcast has gotten me a Kraken, a Kraken in a fan rally towel. For Christmas. So he got that hanging up. So what we add that to the, to the collection. I was going to wear my PJ Walker Jersey today in anticipation that, you know, in celebration of him, Playing on Sunday, but he threw the pack. So I got my, my John seen that. Old school, John Cena Jersey on today. Oh, hi, Mark. Yep. But no, I, I worried about the XFL. Like I'm a fan of stuff I can wear. Like, what am I going to do with an XFL notebook? Like here? I mean, you're not gonna use it, right. I mean, Yes, I'm different where like, I don't know. I don't know. Let me show you what I got here. Okay, pause. I'll pause. False. Never stepped away from the podcast before Paul's picking up something. This is a new, this is a rare feat. Oh, yeah. Paul got a Jersey this week. He got it signed. He's very excited. I'm commenting now for people listening on the, on the podcast. We're seeing that Paul's last days of Dixie's a documentary movie. I have a film credit on that documentary and then his NBA jam. Cabinet as well. Paul, who was that signed Jersey by the, you were showing. Man bro door, the goat of hockey goalkeepers don't don't even come in my mentions and say, Patrick, Roy Patrick Wahl was better. They, they, they created a rule for Martin bro. So, yeah, my friend Alma helped procure. That autographed Jersey from a hall of fame goalie. So that's great. It's going to be hanging in the, in the office with all the other stuff that hangs in my house and apartment. That read always gives me crap for, for never cleaning. So that's good. It's got the, I saw that that was a great segment. That was, it was good to see more of your office. I appreciate you giving us a little tour there. So that was fine. Yeah. Picked up, picked up the Jersey off the stool that it's sitting on. Cause I'm still waiting to hang it right here. Yeah. And the office. So let's do, let's do this real quick and let's let's breeze through a couple more signings. Of course, the Buffalo bills signing a Tanner Gentry who was a New York guardian. You also played with. Josh Allen at Wyoming. Yeah. It's all connected. It's all connected. We also got a, the San Francisco 49ers have sore. Signed former dragons wide receiver, Austin, parole. Ricky [unknown]. Kid to a futures contract. Yeah, he was on that. He got signed to the practice squad or whatever last week. And so they've, they've gotten that, move that along. So that's exciting. We'd love to see that there was a couple of others this week. Again, if you, if you want to keep up on all the XFL signings, Mike, Mitchell's the guy to go to. I do see the ones that kind of. They come across my timeline, but yeah, by Mike Mitchell is great. He's doing the Lord's work cover and all the XFL, the XFL guys go into the NFL itself. Cool. One one now. Yeah, I'll catch up about. There was a excellent news hub. You know, we're we're I, we get featured on their website. They did the big end of the year countdown and a, one of their, their top 10 moments of the year was a us joining the crew. And that was very excited. Yeah. I thought that was nice, Mark. Thank you so much. If you're going to. I gotta tell you this, Paul, and this is, this is a funny connection and, and you'll get a kick out of this. So first Mark, thank you for inviting us onto your website and including that senior thing. So this week on a week in review, Mark, I don't think he request drunk, but he was definitely, he had a Chris Jericho, little bit of the bubbly. Champaign bottle. Right. And he had, cause it was like after new year's and he was talking about this appalled and it was all about Chris Jericho AEW, a former world champion. He has his own Champaign Al it's got a little bit of the bubbly cause when he won that the AEW title, he says, I'm going to have. I don't have overlap. And so Mark was on the thing. And so, you know, we have similar listeners, right? Hopefully, you know, people that listen to exhale, we hear view. And so Jack Stevens, one of our number one fans, right? No surprise that Jack would also be a fan of XFL, a weekend review. And so Mark was talking the last, like 45 seconds of Mark's podcast every week is gold because it's just kind of like Kim rambling about stuff at the end, before he says goodbye. I mean, he was speculating about when he should open that he has another little bit of the bubbly and he was saying, I'm like, should I open it up? When they announced like the TV contracts for the XFL? Should I open it when they get, you know, whatever. And he goes, Hey, Jack Stevens, like. I hope you had a little bit of the bubbly too for their new years. I go Mark. Jack's like 12 years old. I mean, Jack, I love you. I'm sure he's lost his everything. We're big fans. Let's let's simmer down a little bit at the end of the podcast. By encouraging under age. I had children in the V consuming alcohol. I didn't think you would get a little bit of a kick out of that. That's it, you know, it's a, it's a funny world we live in, but yeah, a little bit of the bubbly. Chris Jericho. He is, he is my goat wrestler. Don't at me. Yeah. Hi, Mark. There you go. All right, taking a break right now. We'll come back and talk some TSL talks and fancy. A fan controlled football right after this. That s**t was so, yeah. Like I missed in my life, Mark. Jack's like 12 years old. Right? Simba down, sir. Yup. And we're back. TSL stuff. Hey, when are you getting the merchant man? What's happening? Kenny messages me like every week. Hey, when's the Jasper stuff. So I sent Brian Woods and message. I wish him happy new year's and I said, Hey. I hope you guys are getting ready to, you know, for the spring season, please, you know, keep us in line. In mind if you have any. Excuse me, it got too much going on there. Please keep us in mind. If you have, you know, any news that you want. And he says that they're working on finalizing, the TV deals are going to be getting ready to hear doing that ceiling. So for, you know, fans are the spring league, you know, we obviously have Brian Scott QB on, we were also talking, you know, wishing them Merry Christmas. If you are interested in any of that stuff, it's going to be coming back soon and Brian's working on the TV deals and then hopefully we can get him back on the podcast or someone else. But yeah. I, you know, I didn't want to be like, Hey, we're should emerge. But I was like, Hey, like happy new years from XFL Marquez. Hope in the world. So we'll see, we're still working on it. I'm hoping for a box. I told you, anytime it packaged comes to the house, or if he goes, is that the Brian Woods? Is that, is that Brian's is that Brian stuff? Oh, hi, Mark. Anyway. We're we're still waiting on the Jasper staff, but yeah, spring leagues coming back there, working on everything. And that'd be exciting, you know, we'll have fan control. We'll have, I mean, we, we have a whole bunch of stuff, so I I'm excited about that. I'm excited about covering kind of football stuff. Actually happening. I know where the XFL Marquez, obviously we covered the XFL, but it is nice to be covering like leagues that are like happening with footballs being thrown. So that's also exciting. All right. So some signings, the generals defensive back chanting, Stribling assigned with a hammer. Hamilton tiger cats. I believe not high cats. Just tiger cats. Yes. And then the generals, a kicker. Like, I'm not going to try to pronounce this guy's name. I think I butchered it. Higher how, how, how. Yes. There you go. Resigned by the Panthers again, I don't know why, because the season's over. But apparently he was originally released due to visa issues. Those have now been resolved. So maybe he gets. You know, maybe he gives some serious playing time and Carolina next year. Talking about a lot of these guys like being signed, it's kind of get some like first line in the practice squads over the summer. So it's kinda like, you don't have to go through maybe that, you know, you're still going to try out and kind of go through all that, but at least you're kind of got your foot in the door. That kind of stuff. So that's why people are doing signings right now. That's what's going on with that? Got it. Conquers offensive lineman camera. Jefferson has resigned with the Saskatchewan Roughriders. So there you go. And the blues defensive back, Rodney Randall Jr. Has signed with alphabets from Montreal. So there you go. There's some spring league signings, lots of stuff. Yeah. For the CFL, we're going to be covering that. I think that they're going to be kicking off in June. Around that time. So, you know, we're still going to be doing the XFL stuff. And then we got a fan controlled football, which we're going to get into next. You know, they're launching here in just a couple of weeks there. Patrick and the guys they're headed there in Atlanta now, like in the bubble, kind of establishing everything. So that's going to be kicking off. I think that's going to kind of lead us through, you know, February, March, April ish, and then we'll start getting into like CFL stuff and then hopefully the spring league in there. So you guys know kind of where my mind's going. I do think we're going to have a lot of football stuff. Hopefully the cover here leading into June, which is when all the XFL stuff is supposed to drop. So, and would that w MBAs. We're going to rename a gummy has joined Marshawn Lynch as the co-owner of the beasts in the fantasy fan controlled football league. Yeah, this is a big deal. I think it was kind of an oversight. At first that they didn't have any female ownership at all before this. I think that was definitely something that we had talked about when we kind of ran down the team owners before. And I do think that that was an oversight and I'm glad that they corrected that. But yeah, Renee is a WWE NBA champ. She's won two of the last six w MBA women's championships for Minnesota in 2015 and 2017. And she seems. Really game to play. We've been chatting a lot online and, and she seems, you know, good to promote because the second they came on, I say, well, great. They finally found someone that's not a coward for the bees. Can I actually go on social media and promote the team and she goes, Oh yeah, I'm here. [unknown] so she seems she was very, very involved in the w MBA, Georgia Senator stuff. Yeah. All of that. Whatever. So I think she was a little busy this week and then we're going to get tried to get her on or at least get, you know, chatted some more about that stuff. But it's good. It's good to get another female voice on there. Add to that point. We're talking about the Georgia elections and stuff like that. How remain or her name? He was very, a lot of the, the players from the dream in Atlanta. This is, this is not a well-known. It could be well known at this point, but Kelly Loffler, the Senator from Georgia that was recently defeated. In her runoff race. Of course. I don't know if you, if you guys knew this, but. Before. Warnock when Warnock was running in the primaries, he was polling at 9%. And the players from Loefflers team war. Shirts that said vote Warnock. And that ended up boosting his profile. To a point where he had a runoff with Loffler and beat her last Tuesday in the runoff election. I know there's talk about the WPA. Trying to get the Atlanta dream away from Kelly Loffler and have another ownership group take over there. And Renee Montgomery is a rumor to be. In the running to become part owner of the dream. All. Which would be a great jump for, you know, you do these WWE NBA teams. I'm not too familiar with who owns them, but I'm pretty sure that Renee Emory becoming a part of the ownership team for a WWE NBA team would be historic in the sense of that. So. It's very interesting. Renee Montgomery seems like a great person. Seems like she's very aware of and trying to get the word out about social issues and it's probably the perfect person. That the fan controlled football league could bring in to their ownership group. So we want to congratulate her on that. Yeah, I think it's great. Like I said, happy to have it on. I think. Here's what I think with the fan controlled stuff. I think. They're walking the fine line with some of these owners. Right. And maybe I want to get your thoughts on this too, where it's like, okay, we want. Big names. But with that, we also need people that are going to promote it. Because, I mean, they're not like their owners. They're not owning their own. I mean, they're just, they're like owning the team like hypothetically, right. Like, you know, and we make fun of mirror or whatever, but like Miro is a coward. Besides being a coward, he's also like a pretty high profile wrestler. Right. And like add a streamer now, like I would, I would venture to say that. He's got a million followers on Twitch, Emily, I believe. And so, so you get these guys that, where it's like, you need to have a good balance of someone that's big enough, but it's actually going to promote it. And I'm not saying like, Renee is not big. Right. But there's, there's like, There's levels of whatever. And you can have, you know, you can be like Greg Miller, they own wild ACEs, and he's got a million followers, but he is active and promoting stuff. And then you can have people like Marshawn Lynch and yeah, that's a really great name. Right. And he probably doesn't have to do anything to promote anything, but. I mean, he's retweeted, like one thing about fan controlled football. Same with Miro. Hey, vote for whatever. And so I just, I haven't seen for it being this close to the season. I haven't seen a lot of these guys and, and you know, Renee now, girl, she's been different. She's really come on hot and heavy. I just haven't seen a lot of these guys promoting it. And that's just my 2 cents. I mean, take it for what it is, but I would. I would like to think if we were getting, you know, Richard Sherman, haven't seen him post, you know, Marshawn barely done anything. A lot of these got posted as Quavo posted at all at all about it. Yes team. I haven't, I've seen Bob Bob memory memory. I can never say that name. I've got, you know, he was the one that got Johnny Manzell, you know, they were in Texas. I believe he was there with Ray Austin. I just saw fan controlled football news posts on Twitter that they were shooting some promo videos. With with Johnny Manzell just, if anyone wanted an updated about, you know, Johnny still with the league, right. He got signed last week with this Apres and he was doing some stuff with Ray Austin. Who's a commissioner, but. Anyway. I mean, what are your thoughts on that? About getting like the big names, but people that would actually promote the thing. I think that, you know, It's great to have the big names, but it needs to be those big names need to promote it. If they're not promoting it, what's the point of having them around. And I think that's, that's the reason why they've brought these people into these ownership groups is in host. So they promote it. What, I'm not seeing much promotion from anyone, but Renee. Yeah. I mean, I'm just being serious. And, and like I said, I, you know, I could be way off on this, but, you know, What's the point of having all these followers, right. If you're not going to, if you're not going to use it, and obviously you don't want to like bombard the thing and be, you know, it's, it's a fine line, right? You want to be cool and you got all your, whatever, but I just. I would have to imagine that they would wish that they would see a little bit more promotion from some of these teams. Cause the BS like that. If you look at like Twitter followers, like the bees have like 200 followers compared to like the wild ACEs have like 1500 or 2000 or whatever, because they have people on their team that are promoting exactly. Unfortunate news here. John petite. A petty, I think is there. That's how you pronounce his name? He passed away. He was the VP of operations. For the fan controlled football. Yeah. No, they, they posted this week. They said that he was instrumental in getting everything off the ground. He's been with him from the beginning when they were doing the arena staff. They're going to have all the players are going to be wearing JP stickers on their helmets for the season. And. John. Helmets that John. A sourced designed for help from his family. It should be to the man that helped us get to this point. They wanted to make sure that every athlete and never a fan knows that John helped build this league really unfortunate eye COVID related. Things happen is what the story was. And you got to imagine that's just heartbreaking, you know, coming through Christmas, getting ready, you know, you've worked so hard to have this lead come out and then. Have that happen right before everything's going. That means it's truly heartbreaking for them. And in our thoughts and prayers go out to John and his family and everyone involved without it definitely sounds like it's a hard situation. Definitely want to give up our thoughts out to his family, his friends, and of course, Everyone at the van. A fan controlled football league. Yeah. The last note I saw it today. It seems like a fan controls, getting some more sponsors involved. They signed on. I can not pronounce any of these. Sounds like a, like, kind of like a one-on-one zoom experience, like a cameo type experience where they're going to give you access to their, your favorite players. Do post-game virtual meet and greets. Interesting. Yeah. And then maybe deal is going to be, they're going to have fan control the signed with them. They're going to be doing this weird immersive 3d staff kind of sounds like what Apple's doing with that. Like. You know, you can hold your phone here and then you can move it. You know? W what is that called? The new thing on their spatial audio, spatial audio. And then they're going to have this earbuds and it's going to help you with like owners with their curated playlists and all that stuff. Again, this is all like, really great stuff, and this is great for a press release and I'm sure that they're getting some money to be mentioning these people and whatever, but. I just, I haven't seen a lot of, like, I want to see more player news. I want to see, I've seen a lot of like, Fangirl. Football's a good job. Like tweeting a lot of like, Hey, these people aside, but now hopefully now that we're getting into, you know, The bubble and, you know, getting all the teams and the, in the. Everyone's signed and figured out. I just want to see a lot more of that stuff. Like I don't care. They're going to have drones in the building. They're going to have helmet cams. They're going to have this spatial audio. I don't really know if I care about a lot about right. The bells and whistles going on. Not enough. Meat on the bones. So to say so to speak. It's like WWE with thunder dome, you know? Right. You can spend, you know, millions of dollars making this wall thing, you know, WWE now they don't have fans. They wrestle in front of this, like weird. You know, they have all these people's zoom in on these screens. And that's like really cool for the first week or the first hour or whatever. And then you really get used to it. And I feel like that's a lot with this fan controlled stuff. Like with the drunk. That's going to be cool. I, the first time they do that, you're getting back. That's awesome. But like, now that you watched the NFL and they have the, the sky cam and all of that, like you just, you just assume all that's going to be a part of it. You just, you need to have. Ball stuff on the field and that's what I'm hoping. Alright, we gotta take another commercial break or a podcast. Distributor wants us to put a spot in here. We're going to do that. We're going to come back in and we're going to do our garbage segment. And we're back. Right. Do you see this top story? So this is our garbage and you segment. This is before we get to this, like you really wanted to discuss branding the segment, the red Sox. Well, we'll get into that. We'll get into all of that. I guess maybe we should start with that. Your that's great. Well, we'll save the breaking news. So your cohost a well of, of wheelhouse. He tweeted this week. And I think this is a great idea. He said, we need to brand this segment. We, we kind of call it the garbage segment. It's kind of a leftover is it's reads tidbits. Dorothy had a name for, I can't remember now. Also she wanted us to talk about this documentary this week. I took it off because everything happened in the world. Well, now we're going to do it, but just like the world fell apart yesterday. And so w we're gonna get to that. But we'll suggested that we brand the segment. And so I want to do is if you are a fan of this, I hear that we have fans that listened to this show. People fall, all this stuff. Comment on a YouTube video or comment on Twitter. I want to get some suggestions and I want to do a poll. So like reads tidbits of joy would probably be like my vote. You know, The stuff that fills out the Gar a Google doc that I know is Paul would be my vote. LV one. And it will suggest that the red Sox, because you are a Yankees fan and you. Our garbage. Yes. So that's a good one. So. So w well listens so pleased. I, and just remind me, I'll do a thing. We'll do a poll, but I do think this segment would, would benefit from some branding. And then maybe like a fun sound effect. Like if we have like a. Like a flag of toilet flush or something. I don't know what you have in your magical. I know you have. The soundboard. We'll find something, find something. So, yeah, reads tip for this week, it's going to be reads tidbits of joy and awe. First a long time, fans of the show will know. Earlier this year on now we are in the bachelor season, also known as the match alert is the guy's name is Matt Jones. He is the new bachelor. He's a stunningly good-looking man. And. I can't believe you're so in the show, by the way, but keep going. Well, you know, it's, it's something for the wife. We went, we watched barrette too, over there. The break or something for my wife. And, but earlier this season on the bachelor at, there was a man named Jason, Nick, and he was basically Brandon silvers. You know, stunt double, they were the same person. They were, you know, Brandon Silver's the QB of the Seattle dragons was parading around. [unknown]. Into a resort and Palm Springs on the bachelorette. Jason, Nick is the man that was on the bachelorette. I had COVID and that is why he was not at the women. Tell all celebration at the end of the season. I just thought that was astounding. And now he's got COVID. Well, he's good now. I mean, he's all clear. He had it. Yeah. He doesn't have enough. He had it. That's why he couldn't do the women tell all I messaged him a well-wishes message still would love to get chasing on the podcast. Aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. He's not on Twitter, but I rubbed them on Instagram. I said, Hey, now that the bachelorette is done, could you go ahead and get on book cameo? Or can I just book you like a normal guest? Because I still really want to talk to chase the neck. We'll figure out a way to make that happen. We'll definitely figure out what it. Moving on though. Holy cow, this, this fight between Tulsa and Mississippi state. Yeah. Save. It's happened like the day we released the podcast. Right. It always does and say, please save these links. I remember that. Yeah. It's like the Friday night games, right? Like we always miss. [unknown] cheddar ball and the goldfish bowl and the mayonnaise ball. And then. Missing. It was, I mean, they were throwing punches. Yeah. And then the BA. I know I'm going to say the best part. I think the worst part was that you, you had players streaming, Instagram, live stories behind in the, in the locker room afterward. And they were like cheering about them. Get in fight with these players. I slapped this guy around and, and either we use profanity, of course. And I was like, There might be, there might be a culture issue at Mississippi state. There might be a little bit of a, of an issue with, you know, Some tempers because this, they were like, they were relishing. The fact that they got in this fight, the players were, were relishing. It. Yeah, the guy kicked the guy saw carefree guy in the face ran away. I mean, it was like, it wasn't like, it was ugly. It was like they were throwing, they were throwing big punches. Yeah. I don't like Mike, Leach's not the warmest human being. He is, he is, he can be kind of gruff and a jerk. And I don't know if that's the situation that Mike Leach. It was kind of instituted this culture, but they seemed really proud of themselves in the locker room afterward. And I was just thinking, God, This is nothing to be proud of. Be proud of, but so that you can be proud of. Alvin Kamara was fine. 5k for his red and green Christmas cleats. Of course, if you are not familiar with Alvin Kamara, you probably don't play fantasy football and you either had your season completely ruined by him or completely saved by him because he went off. In everyone's championship game. Yeah for the Christmas. Ah, That, this is what I hear. I hear they call the Vince McMahon himself famously called the NFL, the no fun league. When he started the first XFL back in 2000 and they find him, he had red and green Christmas cleats. They find them $5,000. I mean, Come on. But, but. But then he turned around and. He turned around and donate another $5,000 to charity. Well, I've been response. And I thought that was a good idea. I was like, that's nice. Well, somewhat, somewhat when I saw the tweet and they go, I want to know where all this money goes. All these little like stupid fines, you know, throwing the football in the stands, get you. I get $6,000 fine. And the cleats and staff, I mean, that's just, that's just crazy. We like Alvin Kamara, like what, like I can't get over that game that he had when he tied the record for most. You know, Most. This one when he went, when he got the cleats, this is the one. Yeah. Yeah, it was just that. It was just a, it was a massive performance, six touchdowns, six touchdowns. And. Got it could have been seven. Alvin Kamara did graduate from the university of Tennessee, but he was at Alabama for awhile and Alabama was stacked. I mean, they had, they have so many. Running backs in the NFL. It's it's just crazy. And of course they're a wide receiver. Just won the Heisman too. So. Yeah. All right, moving on. You had to do with anything, but I just wanted to throw that in there. That's good. I don't know if this video is going to translate it all to the podcast. This one about the rock. So I'll play it. And then we'll, I don't even know. I guess I'll put the audio in. It's. Do you want to play it? Can you play it? And then I'll try this. Dude. Read. You know, you know, you don't have a clown phobia, right? Oh, I didn't. Is there a clown in there? Sorry. I just, sorry. Sorry. I was. I wasn't trying to give you PTSD. I was like sitting there going, okay. Now I have to edit the audio. I have to be about the two F words and the rage against the machine song. Thanks. Thanks for that. And then all of a sudden I see his clown pop up and I'm like frozen in fear for a second. Then I have to cover the screen. Okay. Thanks Reed. Well, the video. The context is the video is funny because it's, it's like the rock posts, all these, like, I'm going to beat you up social media. He's all dripping in sweaty. He's pumping iron. And then it's like the guy behind him that's like filming the videos. And I thought it was wildly funny. And the rockery tweet of it. So that's another way to get retweeted by the rock is make funny videos with clowns that scare Paul. Yeah, please don't do that anymore. All right. I didn't even, like, I probably didn't even watch the whole video. I added it to the like seriously I'm cringing. I can't believe like there's circus liquor in North Hollywood that I drive by of Everett occasionally. I turned my head because it's a big flip in cloud. In my head like this and drive like at a 90 degree angle. Is not, this is a true story of Paul and I were down at the yard house in LA. By staple center before one of the WWE. Pay reviews. And I found out about this. I didn't know that Paul had a clown phobia and I went to the bathroom and I thought it was funny. So I texted him like a clown emoji and I came out of the bathroom. All was ready to like, take my face off. It's people it's real. And I, you know, People are like, Oh, is it because of it? I'm like, no, it's not because of it. It was like this. This music video. When I was a kid by level 42, they had a clown in the, in the music video and the way the cloud was gesturing and stuff. Freaked me out for life. And I can't, I can't with clowns. Sorry, Paul. I really want, I really swear. I wasn't trying back really. I believe you didn't watch that video all the way through. Yes. You believe that because had you watch a video that you. This might not be the best idea. To do. So this last video you knew I would do this. Paul tweeted the other day, the guy pouring the milk on himself at Walmart. I played this a Dorothy. She thought it was wildly funny. I go, Paul, are you, are you nominating and stuff? Now that put on the go. I was going to save this for Willow house. But I guess you can play it while we're talking about. He singing when he was pouring the V. Do you know what he's singing when he paused? Milkshake by Kalise. Took me way. He takes you a couple of my milkshake means otherwise. And I think he swears a lot in this too. He says some off color remarks. This is. What is that? I know, right? I mean, this would be bad enough in like 2000. 15. I mean, this is crazy for 2020, 20, 21. We're in the middle of Pangaea. Pandemic. And this guy just post this video for clout. He was like, I just want to do something for cloud. That was it. Yeah. He's even says it to the camera's like all for clout. I didn't know if it was like a fraternity, like hazing thing or something. Right. But he just, he was like, Oh, I'll hold for clout. I do the, like when he jumped off and he fell and slipped and hit his car. When he ate crap, that was the best part of the video. With that being said, that's it. I just wanted to make sure we got that in today. Sorry. I wasn't trying to terrify. I feel terrible. That's all right. We're gonna wrap it around that segment. We gotta go. 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XFL Markcast - Episode 21 Heinicke = WFT FTW? (ft. Chase Baker)

We could have taken a week off, you know, it's the holidays. We could have taken a week off read. We really could have taken a week off. We got a really good feedback last week or the podcasts overall. We have some next week. Into, but yeah, good viewership. I was really happy. I didn't know how the Christmas day episode that was going to go. So I'm really happy. I thank you all for taking the time on Christmas and the days after they check out the episode. I really appreciate that. But ah, Paul, we do have, we have news. We either have good news or bad news first, whether you want. Let's get this out of the way. Let's address those first. Okay. So the bad news is we made an oopsy Daisy on the podcast last week. I, we did, I did cause I put together the show notes. And that Josh Johnson, QB, former LA Wildcats. He was on the practice squad with the 49ers. I made the mistake. I said that he was cut. But he was diagnosed with COVID 19, but he was caught. He was not a, and that's the bad news is that we were incorrect. I hate being incorrect. Even on a Christmas Eve recorded episode, we should have said that he was on the COVID 19 list. You cannot cut any players on the COVID 19 list. But the good news is we found out this mistake. I found that this mistake at eight in the morning, on Christmas day, when Josh Johnson himself messaged me on Twitter and said that we were incorrect. So, I guess the good news is that Josh Johnson listens to the Mark cast. Like maybe, maybe we'll get bashed shirt going here after the holidays. But yeah. So Josh. It took the time to message me. So Josh aye. Yeah. And sincere apology is not to make any jokes about, you know, being incorrect. COVID-19 all these issues. But yeah, we were, we made a booboo and I found out about it from Josh messaging me at about eight in the morning, on Christmas day saying that we got it wrong. So. Thanks for keeping us correct. We appreciate it. Seriously, we do. We, we don't intend to make mistakes here. And we do apologize for any mistakes that might've gone on through the. The recording of the live art guest. So yeah, it's, you know, the written word is so much easier to go back. You just update. Do a quick site refresh. Yeah. Once the video goes live on YouTube. I do a lot of video stuff on Vimeo, and it's great for my video staff, because if I make a mistake, if I have something typed wrong, I can just re upload the file and it takes it all. You know, it just replaces everything, but YouTube is terrible. So once, once we tell us that video, you know, we added at the end, them amend them, whatever, all that stuff ever. But yeah, a little too late by that. Thank you, Josh for listening. I, you know, fan of the podcast, if you've ever wanted to come on. I don't know if you want to deal with this anymore, but thank you, Josh, for keeping us straight. I appreciate it. Definitely. So with that, moving on, we're going to move on to the news of, we got some XFL news this week and it's tailored. Hannukah. Yeah, I struggle saying this name. Hi, Nikki. Hi, Nikki. And I think it's handicap, but I want to say hi Niki, like Heineken. I used to be a Heineken. I drink Stella, Stella and Shiner Bock now, but I used to be a Heineken fan. Let's just call him by his first name. So we don't butcher it. Irritate him as well. So Taylor's the big story this week. He might be starting for the Washington football team might be starting. Yeah. So of course we, you know, knowing the exit, if I'm Mark Castlerock, we always record these. You know, th the second we hit posts, we either have something incorrect, like Josh Johnson, or, you know, they'll come out. I will post this tomorrow morning. They'll come out. [unknown]. You know, Alex Smith starting for, you know, Washington, but it's good to hypothesize about. It's crazy. He had a great showing last week against the Panthers, even though they lost right. I am correct in that he had a TD, he had thrown one, it got returned on penalty, and then he threw another TD and it was awesome. And so it was very exciting to see this is someone. I was talking to Paul about this off. Off microphone. We had weeks ago, Mike Mitchell reported, Hey, here's a little side note, former battle Hawks backup QB Taylor. Hi, Nikki is getting signed as kind of like a COVID replacement because of all this stuff. This is, if you guys remember the Broncos, all, you know, all their COVID, their players went down, they were on the COVID list. And so they really struggled. They had to bring in that guy from that. Practice squad, you know, the wide receiver and they turned them quarterback. So this Taylor was kind of brought in as that for the Washington football team. Yeah. They say, Hey, we don't want to have that happen. And then Alex Smith was down and then Dwayne Haskins, you know, he was in the private club with the strippers. He got fine. He got his. His captains, badge taken away all the bad things. And then he came out and display their horrendous football game when he was benched. Did you see the Panthers one or the Washington one? I said the Panthers and the Panthers did one. Yes. Okay. You make one mistake really got to check every single one now. But yeah, so it was cool. I, I saw, I saw the highlights, Taylor play gray. You know, he came in Dwayne is, is not right for this world right now. People seem pretty upset with him about everything going on. Have you been following the Dwayne Haskins saga? Yeah, I think you've just, you know, he made a, he made a mistake and, and I don't know if, if the punishment fits the crime. It seems like we're, we've got a guy named Dwayne Haskins. I'm reading some behind the scenes chatter on Twitter, you know, it's, it's very speculative. It's very rumor field. And people in the, in the war room, when I'd Wayne was drafted, were not happy with the pick to begin with. So maybe this was the waiting for them to get out of keeping Duane on the team as the franchise quarterback. I don't know. I'm not going to speculate too much. But I think it's, it's interesting because. You have a situation like this Dwayne Haskins situation. And then you turn around and look in a basketball situation. Like a James harden situation. And you're not seeing quite the uproar from teams. When it comes to James harden because James R is a superstar, as much as it pains me to admit that. Because since he went to Arizona state, James harden is, is, is known for being very. Loose with E the protocols in terms of like, it's, it's a running joke that he goes to strip clubs all the time. And, and with that being said, like he's not being held as accountable as Haskins is in the situation. So I'm not sure the punishment fits the crime. And I do. I do think that Dwayne is probably is, is owning this. And it seems like he's owning this and I just don't know why, why they cut him, but, you know, he's, he's bound to bounce back and he's going to he's. I mean, I I'm reading that as agent didn't drop him. So that's, that's a big step. If his agent didn't drop him as agent realizes, there's still more there. And we're hoping, we're hoping the best for our Dwayne and, and hopefully he gives me, he bounces back and get another shot. Well, so now the fact check you, Adam Schefter posted his he and his agent, David. My guy that I have decided to mutually part ways. They have. Okay. Yeah. Last time I read that they hadn't. So, so, and that's just Adam Schefter tweet. And so. We're wrong about that? That's Adam Schefter on. I do ever, but yeah, I mean, I think it was the COVID thing. It was the twice thing. He had broken protocol earlier in the season. He, you know, this thing was really bad. You have Ron Ron Rivera who, you know, is, is battling cancer, you know, immuno compromised. A lot of different things going on. I needless to say, I'm Nikki played really good. I got some stats, 63.2 per a completion percentage, 137 yards in that TD. And if you're wondering why Taylor. I was doing some research and he had played under Ron Rivera and offensive coach Scott Turner in Carolina. And he, I guess it played for cam Newton back when he was hurt back in 2018. So at cam you know, making the rounds again and always in the news, somewhat in the XFL Marquez. So, I mean, you know, he's got a history with Ron Rivera. What we're seeing, like a lot of these backup quarterbacks have histories with the coaches, like in case of PJ Walker with that rule. And Carolina. You're seeing a lot of these backup quarterbacks have these prior relationships with their head coaches. And it's great to see this move, honestly. We talk about how. The Washington football team is. Besides the whole name, change thing there is there's there's, you know, there's been news reports about a bad culture in Washington in that football team. And this move that they did with Ron Rivera. Ron Rivera went to management mode to the front office. So we got to get rid of, we gotta cut this guy. They empowered Ron Rivera. They've got to stick with Ron Rivera for another four years. That's how that's, that's how serious this is, where like Ron Rivera is their coach and they've empowered him and sends another message. It sends a message to the other players that like, this is, you know, It's run very ship. So you need to like get in line and, and, and follow him. It's it's, it's impressive what they've done. And of course you brought that up and I, you know, now that I think about it, Ron Rivera is immunocompromised. He did beat cancer earlier this year. So maybe that was the. The driving force for letting Duane go. Yeah. So right now we don't know yet. Like I said, you know, Alex Smith, obviously they want him, you know, during the Sunday night football game this week against the Eagles. If Washington wins, they're going to, you know, to take the, the, the ease with which is crazy with their, you know, No, I think they'll end up being like seven and nine. I think it will be the record, but, you know, so it's, it's obviously one Alex Smith, but man way, it'd be crazy to see Taylor. Hi, Nikki, on that Sunday night football on prime time, you know, leading. With the XFL. I think that would be exciting for a lot of people. I also do have a soft spot for Alex Smith. I covered him as a, as the quarterback of the university of Utah when he was up there in 2003, 2004 ish. So, yeah, I do have a soft spot for Alex Smith. I'd like to see him play, but I would also like to see Taylor come in and. Do big things and potentially I think Washington still in the playoff hunt. Right? Cause the NFC East is terrible. But yeah, that they'll win the division if they beat the Eagles on Sunday. So that's, what's even Eagles on Sunday that they render the giants Cowboys game. Irrelevant. Yeah. So if, if, if Eagles Eagles, when whoever wins Cowboys and giants will take you to the vision. But if, if Washington wins and they win outright and then they will be in the Plath, there you go. All right. I want you to play real quick. The press conference. They had the Taylor hi Nike. They were asking him, he had, yeah, he was off. Right. He was that battle Hawks, a backup under Jordan TAMU. He, you know, was off. You had been, you know, obviously laid off with the XFL, everything else hadn't been, you know, playing. And he was studying for finals. He was getting ready to take classes. He was doing classes online. And so this really came out of nowhere. He got called, said, Hey, we need you to be that, you know, the COVID QB. And then he came in and played. So they were asking them about in the press conference, after where they were asking them about, you know, coming in and plant. Taylor, how did it feel you hadn't played since 2018? It's got some steps. How did we, how did you feel out there? Felt great. You know, again, I've been training ever since. Quarantine or COBIT hit, it was with the XFL and St. Louis and, you know, we were having a good year and then, you know, COVID happened and I was back on training and ever since, so. You know, I was prepared for this moment and, you know, it's fortunate that it happened. Yeah, I should have some respect for the XFL. Hadn't played 2018. Get out of here. For a football. I mean, I mean, he was the backup, but it's okay. But it shows, I just think it shows right now, you know, all these cubies going down. XFL. Yeah, they're called a lot of these names that we got, you know, PJ came in, won a game. Jordan's you know, with the lions now. And, and we hear, we got Taylor. I mean, if he, if you play Sunday, I'm going to go bonkers. It's going to be nuts. Yeah. And a rap sheet is, I guess, reporting the Carolina has some interest. And Dwayne Haskins now. Yeah. Ian was saying that he's been floating around. He didn't get picked up. He got, you know, really easy was on like the waiver wire. He didn't get picked up. And so they think it's just too close to the end of the season right now. Right. He's got like 4.2 million on his contract that he would be owed for anyone that picked him up. But, but they were saying that Carolina who has not had a passing TD in the month of December, False that's false. That is false. Okay. So I had it in my notes. I had a tweet that I, that Pitt Panthers hadn't had the passing TD in the month of December. Paul is now correcting me on that Bridgewater, Robby Anderson last week. Okay. So for the first three weeks of the season, so three weeks in December that Caroline, that didn't have a passing TD, clearly they need to get something figured out there in, in, in Carolina, you know, I have said forever, I think PJ Walker, it would be a suitable replacement for Teddy Bridgewater. Do you really think that they would bring in Dwayne Haskins over any of the other possible scenarios they could do? No. Oh, why, why, why do they need. They've got, they've got their draft pick will rear. They've got Teddy Bridgewater for 20 million. They've got PJ Walker. Why, why a fourth quarterback? Why? Well, unless you get rid of, you know, maybe we talked about rural being on the outs, maybe rules on the outs with BJ. That would be sad. Maybe possibly who knows. That's a good question. We could maybe ask Gina, what was the situation is like, if she's hearing any of these chat chatter. And maybe she can update us on what's going on there. So, Yeah. Anyway, but yeah. Good Godspeed for Taylor. I'll put the video on here right now. He, he was famous in the XFL for, he was drinking that. There's another video out there with air I, as Sergio Castillo, he, his shotgun in the bud light seltzers for the, for the roughnecks. And we've got Taylor, he's pounding bud light seltzer for the battle of Hawks. All, I'll try to remember the play, the video for this, but you know, it seems like a really nice guy. You know, I couldn't imagine coming off the bench, plain, you know, Fourth quarter, you know, coming out, leading, throwing the TD. I mean, this is crazy, right. Like kind of the world we're living in right now, but former XFL backup quarterbacks, I don't think when you. Started this, when we started this podcast ball that you thought that a former XFL backup quarterback will be playing Sunday night football, potentially for a division for the vision lead. Especially, not this one, like Jordan Tam, who hasn't had a shot, but as backup pass, that's interesting to say the least. It's crazy. Yeah. I know. And that is interesting. It's interesting that yeah, they, his backup that didn't get, I don't think he took it. We all in the XFL, you know, in the, in game time. But. Anyway. So yeah, keep that, keep that. The, the links on the Google doc I'll post that. But the other interesting note with that with, you know, backups and people taking over, trying to win the division. I watched the Rams. I watched this again. I have this weird timing to see these weird things in games. I mean, obviously we're watching the Seahawks play the Rams last week and I saw the thing with golf and he hit his thumb, broke his thumb. Like re re did you watch any of this? He like re I'm locate. You know, it was like dislocated. He popped it back into place. Did you watch this? It looked painful. Well, some will, you can tell you it was, it was jammed up. And with that being said, they've assigned. Former Alliance of American football, Arizona, hot shots. That's a lot of A's there. John Wolford apparently is, is gonna, is going to start, I guess, this week. Yeah, Goss out. He thinks he can make it to the playoffs. They're I think they're in, but there. Yes. Paul's giving Luxe. Yeah. So, so Goss out this week, the Rams I believe are in there just playing for a higher seed if they, if they win this week. But I think they're in, regardless in golf. Not in yet. At nine and three. Nine and six they're not in yet. Wow. Wow. Cause, I mean, you got to Chicago bears that are sitting at eight at seven, and you've got the Arizona Cardinals that are sitting in any of the eight and seven. So essentially what it looks like is let's see, the Packers are in the saints are in the bucks, are in the Seahawks are in there's two more spots, Washington or Dallas or New York is going to be the fifth. The fifth spot. Yeah. Let's see four. They have to. I'm spots this year, right? Because they extended the playoffs by one, one team. Thanks to COVID. So. Washington Dallas NFC. Winner's going to get in. So that's six. So the bears Cardinals and Rams are two teams, three teams fighting for two spots. It said they're getting a wildcard birth. If they beat or tie the Cardinals at home, or if the bears lose and the bears are probably going to lose. So I hate them. The Packers. Yeah. I mean, I've been watching good morning football this week. I've lost them all. No. Well, you know, bears into bisky habit. I think, I think the Packers are going to route them and, and take that. But yeah. Yeah. But point being, we have, we have two of these alternative football leagues now with quarterbacks leading their productive teams into potential playoff games. Well, it's just really wild. It's really wild. And it just goes to show the power of the alternative football leagues, where they can keep these guys fresh and ready. For when NFL teams call. I mean, you, you hate to see a guy that like, you know, Maybe potentially plays an entire year. And I mean, not an entire season, but an entire year from like March until December, January. But that may be, but the way it's starting to go with some of these backup, quarterback's going to the XFL, going to the eight. Going to the fan controlled football, going to all these other alternative football leagues. And keeping their, their stuff fresh. So when they're called on a Sunday and week five, They might be able to step up in that and provide something. And something to remember too, you know, Garrett Gilbert, also a, a F a quarterback, you know, he played with the Cowboys back between when, when Andy Dalton had the concussion, they lost the, ultimately lost to the Steelers, but, you know, he was competitive in that game. And that was a time in the season when Dallas was not competitive, like at all. I mean, they've, they've since come back and either kind of righting the ship a little bit, but, you know, so th this is not the first time this has happened. But I Wolford has like crazy stats. He was like the leading password for, I think for AAF throwing 14 TDS in eight games. That's a two to one in touchdown interception ratio. It's not really anything to write home about. If I'm being honest, I don't mean to hate IQ probably does better than I do, but. A two to one. On an interception rating is. Ratios. You want to kind of get three to one? Better than that. None of the three. I will be watching. Yeah. They were playing the Cardinals and, and. Cardinals are in Aaron sad right now I watch them loose at the 49 just last week. And it just seems like they've kind of lost all their will to play this year. Well, I mean, I mean the same amount of fans are attending cartels games now that they do when they're actually playing. Non COVID. So it's all good. It Kaylor. I always say it directly. Nigeria. Kyler is, can, I don't know. Tiny. Yeah. Oh, tiny. I don't mean to make fun, but he's, he's a short dude, but he's, you know, He plays well above. How tall he is. I think it was like five, six, five, seven. I will never get enough of the IP Kyler baby means. You know, like names all the time. And on the keeping over the XFL, going back to the XFL for a quick second, a judge has ordered all reluctant give McMahon lawyers. The phone passcode. I thought this was a situation where they were going to have a third party. And they did. So the third party came in, they imaged the phone and so they kind of presented all the data. And then judge ordered, like to give that the basket. And I will say, I see this. This is posted. I think we talked about this lawsuit to, I see a lot of people when these articles and when we talk, who cares, it's not courage, man. Current management. Totally understand that, but it's still like the, it's the lineage of the league. I mean, this isn't from a, this isn't guys that were involved in the XFL, you know, 30 years ago, this is the guy that owned the league last year. And the former commissioner who a lot of people would like to see come back if they could ever get this stuff figured out. So that is why people care because I see. Like you make you wind. I know you, listen. I know you commented. This is why people care is because, you know, let's get, let's get luck, right. And let's get him coming back. And Vince McMahon is, is a huge personality, you know, owns a Debbie, Debbie. He owned the XFL. I mean, this is, this is very much in the news as much as anything else. I don't care what you say. All right. So would that being said, we're moving on to some quick signings, some XFL signings, a lot of people getting signed. Of course, Cleveland Browns having some COVID issues right now. They lost a very winnable game last week against the jets because they had no wide receivers. They had no right. And credit to Baker Mayfield. He kept them close to the very end, but they had no wide receivers. So they're making some moves there, signing some people. They signed a, a former one of your boys, Michael Dunn from the Seattle dragons to their active roster. Yeah, I just heard today too. They just had some more COVID cases come out. They, there any must win against the Steelers on Sunday to get in the playoffs. They are very much in there. Possibility that the plane, this tremendous season with Baker Mayfield and all this, that they will miss out the playoffs. And now, you know, Steelers are, are benching quite a few people this week. Ben Roethlisberger is taking the week off and a lot of other guys in cell. But, but, but with this, I will say CLC. Hawks is still the only NFL team without any COVID cases. Just going to say. They're keeping it clean, keeping it clean for sure. I was going to say this about the, the Steelers. Can you believe the jets have won more games? Last few weeks in those dealers have Gracie. It's crazy. You know, I've got some, I've got some friends that are jets fans and they are like beside themselves that they couldn't get the tank job. Right. They are so mad. They couldn't tank for Trevor. The correct way. But, you know, Now he's going to go. Now he's going to go to Jacksonville. I was going to be an Ali. You got, that was the funniest thing this week that they busted that Tony Khan that owns, he owns AUW. His family owns the Jaguars. And so when they, whenever they say like, if a wrestler goes in and jumped ship from WWE, the AEW, they say they post a thing like, Oh, I wouldn't Miro. You know, coward, Miro. Left Debbie. Debbie was like, you know, Miro is all the, and he's joining AWS. Yeah, they had one and it was Trevor Lawrence is all elite because he's, he's joining Tony Khan and the crew down there. So the cults of sign, the rough necks, punter Austan wreck. [unknown] I hope I'm pronouncing that correctly. On the practice squad. I hope so. Lions are signing Dallas renegades. Defensive back Josh Hawkins and their practice squad lions also signing DC defenders. Senator John Toth to their practice squad. A lot of practice squad additions. Lions and, and, you know, they got Tammy over there too. I mean, lions or lions or watching the XFL man or watching the XFL and the Niners. A trout scheduled with former. A Dragon's your boy, Austin. The son of former NFL receiver, Ricky problem, which I remember cause you know, I'm older, older than dirt. I keep getting reminded of that. And of course, Austin scored the first ever XFL touchdown back in February. Yeah, back in the toy. That's per Mike Mitchell. He does all that research, but yeah, so it's just kinda cool. Again, you know, we don't do the best job of keeping up when I see the signings and stuff. If you want to keep up with like every single XFL guy getting signed follow-up by Mike Mitchell on Twitter, but I do the best I can. I scoured the spring league, social media and staff. I as well to kind of keep up to date as best we can just to make notes of that stuff. And the XFL of course, sending out a here's to 20, 21 tweet. And we're hoping that 20, 21. Definitely is better than 2020, for sure. I'm not saying it was all bad. We started this podcast started the wheelhouse podcast. We've had some great moments in 2020, but yeah, we definitely want to get through this COVID thing. So we're a masks. People wear a mask and get vaccinated as soon as possible. Please. This is when we started talking like remedy. I was thinking like, if we had been doing this. Podcasts buck a year. We could do like a best of show and you have like, And then we'd play. Like we cut to like, Oh shoot. I forgot to record that. Part of the backpack has like, darn it. All the times you forgot to record those things or like all the times. I know actually what I want. Our highlights are highlights would be definitely an interesting look back through over the last year, we did have a best of showing Wellhouse. Yeah, I'm scared to checkout. So it's like almost three hours long. I'd say it's good. It's good. Depending on my social standings with you week to week. It depends how quick. Cause I, cause I don't know how I'm, you know, I'm in favor of that week or not. I'm scared. Mark put together this, I just want to play this. We go through a real quick. He did he, yeah. We're not doing the best of XFL. You know, whatever this year I like keeping up the ne the new staff. We did new stuff on Christmas. Need to stop. This is going to be a new year's day, but Mark Perry, excellent Nissan. He put together his moments at the XFL 2020 season. First off obviously would be the XFL suspending, the 20, 20 season. That was probably the biggest. I know that, that, do you remember, do you remember where you were? I know the MBA, we talked about this and the microphones and all that, that guy. I can never remember his name that basically. Rudy go bear. Yeah. And then it was the next day we had tickets to the, the dragons are playing that weekend. They were playing. Who were they playing that weekend? Wildcats were coming in. I can't remember. And they, it was going to be a no fans only. And then they got the game and then it was like the next day they suspended the whole thing. Well, didn't you guys have. Then century link field having a COVID outbreak in the concession area, I believe. Yeah, essentially. I mean, Kevin. Had COVID outbreak. And then the dragons I've caught behind the scenes knowledge that we won't get into, but about the dragons players ultimately got COVID and kind of brought the league down. That's kind of speculative. We don't know that, but yeah, but it was. Basically the transmissions happen in there in the rough necks, dragons game, down in, in Houston, and then it kind of spread. And then the XFL realized, you know, cause at that point we had no way to contain or Tracy anything or know what was going on. So, yeah, the XFL at 2020 season, obviously the bankruptcy, that was huge. I think a lot of people thought that they were going to furlough the league and come back. I mean, didn't you think that they, it wasn't going to go bankrupt? I didn't think it was going to go bankrupt at all. I thought the. I thought Vince would stick it out, but I think, I don't know what happened there. I think it was a pension, potentially a situation where we saw when the bankruptcy filing happened at the WWE actually did own some stock in the XFL. After all, even though Vince said it was two different entities. We did notice that there was stock that was owned. In the XFL from WWE incorporated. And I think maybe some shareholders were like, dude. What the F what is this? And that's probably why he got out quick. Well, we've talked about this too. Yeah. Where this was David, Dave. He was really suffering to kind of make their contractual obligations for the TV networks that they were on. They didn't have anywhere to tape any of their events. And so, you know, that was when for the governor. I always screw this up. Ron DeSantis. Right. That's it. Aye. Who did I say? I say, Rick. I say that. I say the wrong one. Yeah, they, he allowed me, but I think Vince was kind of like panic attack and then decided to just like, Hey, I got to cut bait on this either. Th there's some speculation. That either Vince might still be trying to get involved in the XFL back. I don't really know. I think he's kinda done it. It seems weird. A lot of the people are still thinking that the rock, you know, bought it to kind of keep it within that circle. But I would like to think that they're pretty separate now I would do. All right, we're going to take a break real quick. We're going to come back and we're gonna talk the, the big fancy. Fan controlled football. I guess controversy of the week coming up right next. Sorry. That's okay. And we're back. We're back. We're back fan controlled football. The big shenanigans, I guess, that were, that came out this week. Johnny Manzell signed. That's a good story. But allegedly, allegedly the zappers have cleaned a franchise tag on it. What is this? Yeah. So if you're in, this is, we got fan controlled stuff. Now we got just a couple of other tidbits about spring league and stuff. So yeah, XFL, we kind of tried to do that. We're really getting into this fan controlled now finger troll football. You know, it's going through Twitch. You're going to be able to go on and vote. As much controversy as could be in this league right now. And as many DMS as I could conceivably get as this podcast. So it's, which is not many, but I got a lot of messages yesterday from people very upset about this, the whole idea with this fan controlled league. Is it's it's the fans go on. It's basically like you make your fantasy voting every week. So like you go on and you go, okay, well we want this guy and this guy and this guy, and then the next week. So it's kind of weird. Right? Who knows what? That's not sure you're going to look like on the field, but that is what they're trying to do is to basically like real life, fantasy football, but on a field. And so we had talked in the past, Johnny Manzell, they had talked about bringing them on as one of the quarterbacks. We kinda thought that that was publicity. Just trying to get the name out there. We've had Patrick DS on the show. I didn't even ask him about it at the time, just because I really did think it was just like total flop. We're going to talk to chase Baker today about it, our fan, I guess we should've played that at the beginning of the shell. That's it is what it is. Sorry, chase. Jason is going to come on to talk about favorite, but I like to keep them separate. I mean, we're XFL podcasts, but then we've got fan control. We've got XFL, but anyway, so they've signed Johnny Manzell this week. It came out. Wednesday I've recording its official he's Inc. And that they are making this, their claiming the zappers are claiming that they have a franchise tag on him, which supposedly locks him into that league. And I've had numerous people that follow this league. Alternate football scout, fan controlled football news, the Eva, you guys, they messaged me on Twitter as well as fans. And they go, this is total BS. Like this is not a real thing. This is, they are making this be a rule. I reached out. We tweeted at fan controlled yesterday and Patrick DS. I said, if anybody could please come on and explain why the franchise tag his forefinger, truffle, blah. I understand the idea of what this is. You know, I Googled it. Fan controlled football, you know? Franchise tag. It's never been mentioned before. This has never been a thing until Johnny Manzell was signed with the Lake. What did you say, Paul? I think that there's some ex ex explaining that needs to happen. I don't know, you know? I'm I'm I'm, I'm hoping that. This is weird because you know, they've, they've gotten these people in to the league. These owners of these teams and stuff like that under the premise, under the premise that they would draft fresh teams every, every week. Right? So what's happening here? Like why is this exception being granted to this one player? Is it because it's Johnny Manzell. I mean. Well, moving the goalposts, in my opinion. And in my opinion. Yeah. And I just w what I don't like the most about it is I think the idea was, you know, in just this week, people have reported Kenny Stevenson. He listens to the podcast. You know, people congratulating the fingernail football for reaching out to some of the smaller schools, some of the D three schools that maybe don't get as much publicity with their players, whatever, trying to find good players to come in and play. And they hear you bring in Johnny Manzell and it's like, okay, well that overshadows, like every single other thing that you're trying to do, that's kind of what I think. I'm asking, actually asking Patrick right now via DM. See if he can get to us before the end of the show. Happy to I messaged him yesterday and I'm messaging this point. I would love to know. Obviously they're getting big and here's kind of, here's kinda my thought about. That too. It's kinda like when WWE used to be like, we're going to have this. Or no we're going to have like this celebrity on so we can get a plug on like sports center. Right. So sports center broke the news about Johnny Manzell coming on. Fingernail football, spoiler alert. Sports center is not going to cover a fingernail football, like. We are going to cover it, or like other people are going to cover this like weekend and week out. Like they'll check in, you know, Johnny Manzell plays the first game. They'll they'll run the story on it. But like, I just feel like at this point, you're almost alienating some of the people and some of the players and some of the fans that like, felt like they were going to be invested in this more than bringing in this guy, this, you know, what people have called the wash out or, you know, has been not my words, but these are things I've seen float about. I mean, it just seems weird to me that this is happening. Oh, gave that quote real quick. Greg Miller. Who is one of the other owners or Greg Miller, kind of funny games. All these teams are owned by social media guys. Greg Miller tweeted yesterday. He's while at ACC. Is it on there? This is preposterous and a blatant violation of the rules. There were supposed to be a draft and all quotes. So I don't know. How much of that stick, right? Greg is, is kind of a sticky guy. He makes fun. But obviously I think that this is getting into, I don't know, I think there's, they're, they're moving the goalposts. So as I like to say about a lot of things in life and political situations, they're moving the goalposts and this appears to be a moving of the goalpost where they are. They, they brought all these people in under the premise that every week they're going to draft fresh teams, they're going to keep, you know, the line units the same. Apparently, but. Yeah. I mean, you can't, you can't just change the rules because you get one player like that doesn't seem fitting. And I don't know if it's going to be a situation where every team gets one franchise tag at that point. So then, you know, the, you know, the wild ACE has get the franchise somewhat. I don't know, but there seems to be some voting that needs to be cleared up. And hopefully we get an answer from either chase baker coming on the show later on, or Patrick D is by the end of the show. Hopefully, we get an answer to this, this big Johnny Manzell then. Yeah. Cause it's so we're, we're signed up with the bees, even though we're a, you know, that's just who I signed up with at the beginning to kind of get info about the league. And even the beast, like, so they tweeted, Oh, this is good. Cause you know, we were going to use our franchise tag for somebody else and we never were. They picked the quarterback. I'm like, this is all like, you are just making this up now. Like, Oh see, we weren't going to use ours for Johnny Manzell anyway. Like it's glad that they. Good that they brought him in your grid that they signed him. And, you know, the idea is that Johnny is his friends with Bob [unknown], who's one of the co-owners of this Apres. And so the idea is like he kinda talked him into coming in. And so he feels like he wants to be on that guy's team, which I completely understand in the worlds of NFL and spring league and XFL and all this other stuff. But this is fan controlled football. And the idea is that the fans are supposed to be buying point being, I think a lot of people would really like some answers. I did reach out to Patrick. And people to try to get them to come on today. And I have not heard anything yet, and I will continue to reach out. And Paul will as well. Yes. Other other little fantasy control football notes. Vatican solvable notes, I should say. The reception roles. What. What's the situation with this? Are they going to go one foot or two foot? Yeah. So they're still voting right now. So part of the fan controlled, you know, we voted for the team names and the logos. We're going to talk about the hashtag voting. I want to get your thoughts on some of the hashtags. But the idea is you can vote. If it's receptions are one foot in bounds or two, obviously that's NFL versus college XFL had the one foot in bounds as well. Oh, I see. Obviously NFL has done in a million years. The one way. What, w what do you think about the two and where. Pros and cons to both. Pros to the, to the one R you'll get more points. In theory, you should get more points. It's more college-based. But the thing with a two is like, this is a fan controlled football league. Like. The players. It's hard enough in the pros to get two feet in. And I mean, they pull it off. A lot of times, but it's still really hard to get both feet in. So if you want to increase scoring, and if you want to increase. I mean, you got a 50 yard field. It's like arena football basically, but if you still want to increase scoring. Make it one foot. Mega one foot, especially in an arena league where you, you kind of want to be safe and you don't want to overextend someone worrying about getting to feed in. That's my opinion. Yeah, I think it definitely would add it. This is a little bit more gimmicky of a league anyway. And so I do think having the one foot in bounds would just, like you said, kind of increase to have more, you know, more points and everything involved. Some of these hashtags. So the vote right now, there's two boats going on. You go on to FCF. It's like FCF, fl.io or whatever. Does Google fan controlled football? You go on their Twitter, they have all the hashtags. So I want you to get your thoughts on these. For the bees or you got bumped for one of these. Hashtag, you know why I'm here. Which we all know is Marshawn Lynch. Cause he is one of the owners. A beast mode be at. Be smaller, be at down. Down beat down, read. Oh. Down not voting for that one beast mode beat down. I'm Elise the beast blamey and make green release the beast. Well, let's do beast mode. I'd be down. Peace Viet down. That is false, but I did, you know, I'm here because of the Marshawn Lynch thing. Cause that's what he said, like I'm here. So I don't, I think the hashtag should they be an I'm here so I don't get fine, but that, that was the actual line. But. A team hashtags for the zappers. [unknown]. [unknown] get zapped. Zap without warning. Zappam all zaps, no cap. Zaps, no cap. Yeah, that's it go on and like no cap, right? That's like no limits. Right? No lie. No light, no light. For the glacier Boyz with a Z cold blooded iced out. Better than the wild ACEs, which is funny because if you go with the wild places, put them in our glacier or frosty in Hotlanta, iced out. Iced out. Nice and nice and clean. And then while the ACE is ACE in the hole, lactation nation, here's Johnny. The ACE is wild and get aced. Can they do here's Johnny? Cause you know, Johnny Manzell, I don't know. I want to go with the ACE is wild. They, they answer. I supposedly, I think they have hashtag lactation nation because they wanted the team named to be the milk. Mommy. They, they like Lynn allow them to do that. So this was their follow-up is that they would have, the lactation nation would be their hashtag. This is wild. That's my pick on that one. I just want to run down this TSL stop real quick. Before we get to our garbage segment, we have some spring league staff. Not to chase man. I keep forgetting chase. I'm sorry. Let's bring chase in real quick. Let's let's take a commercial break, bring chase in we'll come back, talk to chase, and then we'll run down the TSL and other stuff. So excited chase. I can't wait to talk to you. Clearly. What's going on, fellas will get back. Cool microphone. Hey. It's glowing. Hi Brooks. Yeah, that's awesome. Thanks for coming on. How are you doing? Doing well read what's going on, man. Good. And this is Paul. Nice to meet you. Chase. Richie as well, just actually got a, a word back from Patrick DS. Hey franchise, the franchise tag on Manzell is legit. The zappers are going to be able to keep him really. Yeah. I was thinking about that this morning. We were just talking about that with, with some of the guys, if, if interesting. That's cool though. What are your thoughts? It's like, I brought it up and I thought they were kind of moving the goalpost on this and change the rules a little bit. What are your thoughts? A little bit, right. Hopefully, you know, the, this doesn't create too much friction. My thought is that I'm sure he wants to come in and you know, I'm sure he wants it on the business, but I have no idea. I haven't, I've not talked to me until, I don't know the business side. I don't know anything about negotiation, so I'm just talking out my ass. So. Well, I just, I w cause we talked about this on the show, you know, so we're doing, you're saying right here and we're going to enter it back in. Ah, you know, I had for as many DMS as I could ever possibly get, from my limited following people really upset about all of this. I'm like, well, I bought this is supposed to be a draft and all this stuff. So that's why we're talking about it. I mean, I have a lot of people reach out yesterday and say like, this is, we had never heard of anything. I guys that, that are exclusively following this ban controlled stuff on Twitter being like, I've never heard of this and I've read through all the rules. Rules. Yeah. No. That's interesting. It's interesting. And I honestly thought that there should've been something like that where they get to choose, you know, a number of players. Each week that they keep and people can't steal something like that. But, but I really. I'm a coach and I still don't understand everything. I don't understand the rules. I don't understand the procedures still. So I'm learning with all of you guys. You guys probably have paid more attention than I have. Honestly, I'm just getting prepared to coach D line, but no, there's a lot of different moving parts and it's going to be interesting how it all comes together. How did you get involved in all this? What was your story and getting involved? You know, honestly, shoot. Ray. I met Ray. Probably two and a half years ago at a couple of gaming events, heavily involved in the gaming side. Just as much as football, I coach, you know, local high school here. I do a lot of the cowboy is a youth programs and stuff. So, so I stay involved with the coaching, but also, and be a big gamer. Big on the gaming side. And so I went to a gaming event with Ray and two years ago, I was like, Hey, let me know if you do need a D-line coaches. Or if I can get involved and we just stayed in cut. In contact for the last couple of years. And as this thing started to really flesh out and they were getting ready for a season, he was like, you're still interested. I'm like, hell yeah. So went out to the Houston combine and ran that stuff and that they liked the way I work. And yeah, here I am. Yeah, it's interesting. Cause it's such a, it's a cool balance, right? Of all the e-sports and how exciting to everyone. You know, that's like a worldwide thing now. Right? I mean, all these people are watching all these competitions. And then you have just this love of football. I saw, I think it was yesterday, you know, NFL had 65 of the 100 top, you know, broadcast of the year or whatever. I mean, just so it's, it's definitely like the marriage. What do you enjoy? I mean, where else would you find something like that? Right. They were kind of like Mary Butler, your passions together. So a uniquely, yeah, I don't think, I think. It's perfect. The way it happened. I'm really excited about honestly, This has been something I've been working on for a long time. I've been trying to figure out how to kind of like, like you said, Marriott, right? Create that bridge. There's there's a bit of a gap between the e-sports world and athletes and. And there's some room where we have to make up and we can help these guys utilize it. But right now it's pretty under utilized. And as you know, the, the, the, the partnership with Twitch and being able to work on Twitch, obviously the NFL has, you know, the, the traditional, the TV side of things pretty well, locked down as you see, but Twitch. Twitch is like the fourth biggest use of, of the internet or in terms of data on the internet. Like, it's huge. It's enormous. And so I'm excited for, for the guys, honestly, obviously, you know, The league is about putting a product on the field and we want to make sure that products. The best possible. I want my guys to kill it. And so, but on the, on the flip side of that, I want them to be able to utilize this and, you know, ride some of the, the, the attention and the ability to use this Twitch stuff, to, to build their own stuff and be ready for that transition out of football as well. So, yeah, it's, it's everything I enjoy combined to one for sure. Exactly. You said you're coaching the D line, right? Correct. Are you coaching? All the units are just one specific unit. So, so it's all the D lineman. What? We're just one unit of D-line. Right. And so the way I understand it, and man, I don't know how much I can tell. I probably shouldn't talk to Patrick before I jumped on here. But. We're friends. We're all friends. Yeah. We're not trying to get. Yeah, no, definitely. Definitely. No, but the way I understand is there's going to be too defensive units. Right. And each defensive unit is going to play two games. And so it's an a, or a, B. And so I think we're trying to figure out if there needs to be a stark difference between, you know, maybe this is a run stopping shorter, you know, bull rush guys, and these are the faster guys. And we kind of differentiate the defensive. We're still figuring all that out, but yeah, I'm going to be coaching both sides of the D line. And so not both sides, but all the D line, what, we're just one big unit, essentially hand, and then we'll be divvied out to two different teams. It sounds like. And so you, you said you were down in Houston with a lot of the guys, you know, running that a lot of good talent coming in. I mean, talk about, you know, people were, you know, we're excited, we could fall out of these different alternative football leagues. Right. And so that. Fan controlled football works for us because it's a lot of guys that maybe we've seen on other things, right. Transitioning over and maybe eventually getting to the XFL. So what are you seeing? A lot of good talent, a lot of good passion, a lot of good hunger. Definitely. And so Houston was cool because it was a smaller combine. I think in Atlanta they had. Well over 120 guys or something like that. Houston was a little smaller. It was a little more invitational. And so we got some solid talent out there. Like we signed most of the guys we had. In Houston for the, for R D lineman and there's guys that have some, some solid abilities, man, we got some quicks, we got some strengths. We guys got guys that played over in Europe and Germany. Have we got. Like you said some XFL guys, some, some of the AAF stuff. And so, you know, just broad stuff we've got D D. Guys that played a huge schools and, and guys that come from D two. So it's a good variety, but the athletic talent there. I hope I can just, you know, Emphasize their strengths and help them. You know, be a bad-ass D lineman. How much input do you say you would like to see you give in potentially building these units? Honestly. Like I'd love. I don't know. I don't know. As long as I can help the guys, like I said, I just want to help. These guys come out. I think this. They're very much focused on the offense side of things, you know, just like in any fantasy stuff. Sorry, my dog and I sit here. Just trying to play with. Say hi. Oh, God. Get out of here. Dogs as my bulldog. My board rigs, but. Well, sorry, what was the question? How much input would you like to have in helping build a defensive units? I think that comes all. I'll refer to my D D coordinator. Coach Carter hall. Let him kind of decide that. But, but for me, it's, it's all about Deliman. D-line. The only thing I care about, I want to provide resources for ID lab, and I want to make sure they're set and ready to go there. They're shaped the, their techniques solid and they're ready to go out and kick ass. So. It's all about dilemma for me. When you've seen kind of that, you know, the rollout here and the teams and the owners and they all the different interactions going online. Right. And people are trash talking and people are having fun if people are doing. I mean, do you think, I guess, what are your thoughts on that? And seeing this Lee kind of build this, this culture right before our eyes, as we're following it and being involved in all that stuff. Yeah, man. I think it was just definitely, like you said, it's very unique culture and there's two sides of this, obviously there's football and then there's the operations and business. Right. And so I think I have a cool opportunity to kind of make sure that there's a bridge and that they understand each other and hopefully we can work very. Cohesively to create some cool s**t. On this field. You know, In terms of the Twitch and the content creation side in terms of getting them interacting with fans. I just want it to feel natural. I want it to feel authentic and. I want to do, I'm gonna kick ass. It's all comes down to. Very clever. What do you want? Wait, when people are going to tune in for this, you know, a lot of our listeners, right. Are, are fans of, you know, these alternative football leagues. What do you want them to see? Or what do you want their reaction to be when they're watching the product on the field? If you're asking me, I want them to look at the D linemen and thanked her. You know that they set the tempo for, for this entire league. It's, it's, it's three on three. And so every delight in his dream is just, one-on-ones never having to worry about slides, not having to worry about chips, not having to worry about. You know, so, so this is a chance for all these Deliman to put on tape, man, they get to go, one-on-ones go beat the guy. You know, in front of you and put on pressure and get these sex. And obviously I, you know, to me, it sounds like it's definitely going to be a more, a pass happy league, but at the same time that these guys will be erased off the road as well. So I think I want them to see a, a very versatile D-line group that they can get after it. And, and you know, that they have all their dreams set in front of them. One-on-ones all day go wreck. Shop. Have you ever heard of anything like this before experienced anything like this before? I mean, essentially any concept. It is very unique. You know, it's been a struggle, I think, kind of creating the model of what we want to go after. I've been looking at, you know, the CFL film to get that feel for that one yard off the ball, because I played up in CFL for a year. It's different. It changes the way. You know, your hands interact changes the way you lean. It just messes with your technique. You have to get used to it. So they're looking at that and looking at a lot of the arena league, showing them what it looks like to rush with just those three guys or three 11. It sounds like we're going to very be very tight. You know, there's not going to be wide guys that have straight shots at the quarterback. They're going to have to work through the one-on-one. So yeah, it's going to be interesting. It's cool. We get to bring a lot of different dimensions from different leagues, from different, from different styles of play. And we get to work with at all. I w I would be remissed if I didn't mention that. So are you, are you comfortable with the protocols that the league is taken were still in the middle of this pandemic? So are you comfortable with the protocols leaks taken in, in terms of controlling? COVID absolutely. Absolutely. I love what they're doing and as we get forward, I think that's, that's a big draw to it honestly, is, is, you know, they, they brought in, I don't, I'm not sure of the name of the doctor, but she's worked with the NFL. You know, she was in the NBA bubble and she's been very clear on what our expectations are. What were taken tests before we get out there, I'm driving. I'm in quarantine right now, getting ready as we kind of are going to head out next week. And so, yeah, no, I'm all about this. I want this, you know, I think there's some optics involved in it. And, you know, with mass and everything, there's definitely optics in there, but, but as many ways we can stay safe. I think, you know, it's just best to stay safe and keep our guys healthy. Cause. On the back end of that, this is an investment, right? You know, they've put a lot of time and energy and money into this and, and. And one guy gets corroded. It can kill everything. So, so we want to make sure everybody's on the same page that we're protecting this, this league that we're building. So that they can use it. Cause if it's gone, they don't get to leverage it. They don't get to leverage the, the twist that don't get to use, you know, the social. You know, currency that they're going to have available to them. So, so we want to protect it and, you know, if that's where it masked and, and stay in quarantine for a couple of weeks and, and making sure we're very limited on how we interact. So be it, but. Yeah, that was my last question too. Was a, when we talked with Patrick, he. Did, you know, part of it was obviously developing and having the play and the 80 other players. Right. And having a good game to watch, but also it's these players being able to leverage their personalities, their social media, you know, here we've been following like Juju all season and you're dancing and building this brand. And I just read an article today that he's working with a lot of the other Steelers, right. To build their brands out and be able to kind of monetize that. Do you, what are your thoughts on that? You know, with the fan controlled with Twitch, with online and all the social stuff. Yeah, I think Jude, you kind of set the standard for this. Right? And we just, on the business side, we got to do some stuff with Twan and Juju and we kind of set up a podcast between them, but. That's exactly what the one I want to do. You know, we want to bring in collaborations for these guys. We want to bring in, you know, these guys have passions and enjoyment outside of football. So, you know, they love being a DJ or they love playing the guitar, or if their workout junkies, we want to provide them a way to get on and you provide entertainment or value to whoever wants to wash man. And so definitely had you just kind of set that standard. And I think with, with this partnership with Twitch, we have the ability to kind of carry on and, and I think that's going to be the big appeal for this leave for, for guys, you know, they're looking. If they don't get that NFL chance. You're looking CFL, looking at other places, they can look at this league and be like, well, they're going to give me a, the, the platform to build my brand outside of football. And that's a big deal. Cause that transition could be Duff and if you're not ready and if you're not. You know, if you don't position yourself, it can be dark days. So, so I'm all for it. Well, chase. We appreciate your time. Thank you for coming in and chatting with us on the Mark cast here. Looking forward to stream bank. And control football and what you guys do there. Thanks Paul. Thanks Paul. Bye. And that happy I happy at 2021. Hope it works out. Good. Yeah. I appreciate just having these guys. Stay safe. Bye guys. Thanks man. Why just didn't want to forget that stuff. I'm not forgetting anything. You see them a lot. I forget the spring Lake. I took the time. I, you know, people just, we didn't talk about reviews at the top of the show. XFL show.com/review. I spent a lot of time every week, too much time. And then our, and. Amount of time. Filling out this Google doc, you know, I swear. I swear if or it's work here, XFL show that comm slash review of your spring league fan. We're still talking about that. We're still waiting on our merge. My new Mark cast, we got there. We had to reprint. Somebody knew Mark castle. One came yesterday and Dorothy goes, I thought that was your package from Brian Woods. That we're all waiting. Brian. We're all waiting on our Jasper's merge. Yeah. So with that being said, let's talk about some, we want to take chase baker by the way, from joining us. To clear up some things about the fantasy fan patrol. I keep saying fantasy. Yeah. Fantasy. And Mark does it to Mark calls it your call football. I'm like Mark it's fan controlled football. Alright. TSL news Hunter. And this one, this is impressive. Yeah, they tweeted this out. I, I, he's not in the spring league, which is weird. But it's bringing me tweet out. Former XFL, puncher Hunter in this wander he's on the Cowboys. And I guess they were prepping at, he played for the defenders. They were prepping at Jerry world and he was punting practice pump balls through the scoreboard. I'm not really impressed. And I'll tell you why. Let let, let me finish. Let me finish. When I was working in salt Lake, we went to cover a BYU game. Jerry world. And balls were going off that stupid scoreboard all the time. Oh, okay. It's nothing new college kids were punting it off the scoreboard and they just roll the ball dad. And then, you know, like you have to replant because the whole point of punting is like, you want to get hang time involved. And yeah, it just like, you can't really get hang time involved that big old scoreboard up there. It's it's, it's massive. We've actually been in that stadium for WrestleMania. We know how big that, that, that. Tron is it's huge. And yeah, I mean, I I've witnessed punters kit. Falls off this, this is nothing. So you're saying something's inherently wrong with Jerry world. That, that. It's more board is too low. Yes, I'm saying that right now. There you go. I didn't know that. Yeah, we saw. Well, we start WrestleMania there. When Roman reigns came out, they took that scoreboards 50 yards long. Right. And they put like applause on it. So everyone remember that and everyone would like cheer. It rains. Or like weird. There was a triple threat match for the women's title. And people and they would put up woo on there to get people to cheer for Charlotte flair. And it was like, no, one's cheering for Charlotte today. I blew the wheel. I blew the world. Some more per spring league now. Additions, I should say all to the CFL. We got Austin. Austin 2018, Brandon linebacker. Brandon Hitman is hopefully I'm saying that right. He's rejoining. I guess he was part, part of the admin had been done football team for a little bit. He's rejoining them. Is that what I'm reading? Right. We had defensive end Lord. He nine. I mean, I'm sorry, I'm butchering your name. Probably he's resigned with alphabets. James Fallston outside linebacker from the justice. Yeah, Allister's signing with Edmond had been Edmonton, Edmonton. I can't speak. Edmonton football team and a defensive back Rahim Wilson is rejoining the Stampeders. So yeah, a lot of that. You know, we know Shelby friend of the show, he came from the CFL to the spring league, the kinda, you know, stay in shape and whatever it's, a lot of these guys are bouncing back. We're definitely going to be covering, you know, some of the CFL. I got to see how time goes, how in-depth we're going to get, but we're definitely going to be covering, you know, CFL staff here on the, on the Mark Hass, kind of in this extra segment after the XFL. Right. Some of the stuff that we wanted to cover real quick at the end of the show that are garbage segment, so to speak. The extension of the regular season of 17 games. Who. I don't know who they add as a, like everything's perfect right now you get a game against a division. Like you play for teams in the division. You play. Four teams in the division and the other conference. Where do you add the other game? Like everything's perfectly symmetrical right now and it bothers my OCD. They're going to add a 17th game. Well, I think it's weird. It's this is going to be a really odd reference. It was like, I used to watch project runway all the time. And it was always like the final three would go to fashion week and they would all show and whatever. And then like one week they go. Well, now this season, we're having four people go. And you go off. Well, then where do you stop? And then the next season, it was five people on the next season. It was eight people, and then it doesn't even matter anymore. And they're talking about cutting down the preseason games. And I think this is a stupid idea because we saw how many injuries we had. With no pre season and you want to shorten that and, and potentially risk injuries. I think this is a dumb idea. I've been saying, I think it's a dumb idea. Well, and you've got, you've got the Steelers benching almost all their starters this week. Right? Bills are talking about doing the same thing for their game. Right? A lot of these teams, they're trying to rest these players out and get into the playoffs. And if you're adding weeks. But my big question about this is if they add a 17th week and they pushed back the Superbowl. That affects the XFL when the XFL is going to start. Potentially. Yes. Potentially. So, you know, we talked, we've been talking, you know, everyone for months. Why doesn't the XFL on now? It's why didn't they do it this year? What's going on? It's coming back next year. I know I actually fall board or whatever. Every day they tweet 408 days, 470 is 406 days. They're counting more than you are. Episode 79. My gas before the actual kickoff. But what I'm saying. If they. If they extended out. That's I mean, that really affects the XFL too. If they add, you know, NFL is King and you have to do everything else around them. Yep. Other garbage notes here. Did you see the cheese of shower? That's great. Well, we talked to all about the, what was it last week? The French fry shower, right? Idaho potato bowl. This week we had Cheez-Its. And then Jay Noakes was incensed that the male bowl. Bail on him. He J was incensed. Did you see that? Trophy for the Mayo bowl, they dropped it. Right. The team broke, broke. Like that should be, that should be a tradition. Every male bull, you have to break the trophy. You have to drop the trophy and break it and replace it with a bottle of mail that needs to be the new thing. Would you rather have fries downtown? You are, or Cheez-Its dumped on you. Depends. Are the fries seasoned or salted? Normal French fries. Alvin got salt on them. Still fries. I, yeah, they, they done the cheeses, the Gatorade, all of this. I hate all of this. It's food waste. We need to, we need to lock up. Pandemic people. Yeah. Did you like this Bitcoin story I put in here? I did. I think it's interesting to say the least. I am a big fan of cryptocurrency, but. I still think it's really volatile, even though I'm a fan of it. I still think it's really volatile and I'm not sure that. He's getting actually half of his 13 million in Bitcoin, because it might drop through the floor. And he might end up with seven, you know, you might end up with like, 4 million instead of 6.5, whatever it is, half a yeah. Russell Okun. He is with the Panthers, right? Yeah. Sea Hawks. Yeah. He, I know Russell. I know that. Yeah, he was so he's getting 13 million and whatever, and he wants half of that paid in Bitcoin and they're going to put it, I read this whole thing. They're going to put it in the calendar and it's going to transfer whatever, but that's risky. That's risky is 13 million in Bitcoin is Bitcoin high right now. That's 20 grand, I think 20 grand per Bitcoin. And for people that don't, you know, Dorothy right now is Googling Bitcoin, but it's like a cryptocurrency. There's a lot of it's gone, you know? It started really low and then it was up and people make money and lose actually up to 28 grand right now. Per Bitcoin. Well, so have you got like one Bitcoin, but then you could lose it all. I mean, it's like, right. It's like you wish you would have bought that at 1 penny. Is it, your it's usually there was used to be a time where you could buy that for like less than a penny. Nothing. Yeah. And then you wait a minute. I wouldn't have to work. No. Just Mark, Mark casting will house all the time. There you go. That would've been the dream right there would have been the dream. So, yeah. Smart for Russell getting his. And I mean, it's raised, I remember I read this story. It was 20,000 when he got his 13 million, half is 13 million in Bitcoin and it's up to 28 now. So he's already making some money. He's already making some good coins, all that out right now. 6.5 million times without I pull that out, you've made, you've made. You know, 20% or whatever on that, I would pull that up. You made 50%. If it's a 20 million, it's up to 28, that's almost a 50% increase. Yeah. I mean, I'm not, I'm not really good at math, but that's the way it looks to me. So, I mean, you're, you're talking, let's see. Let's do the math real quick. If you, if you have a 40% increase on 6.5 million. That's already getting you too. 3.3 0.75 million extra right now. That's crazy. So a good on Russell smart. Well, I think there's a really real chance that we could get Kurt Warner on the Mark House. Where do you say you have to get through his wife first? So. Oh, look, do the research. Do the, do the homework. Like his wife controls his career. Like every time he was benched, you'd see him in a press conference. His wife's sitting right next to him calling the owners out. I don't know, man, you'd have to go through her first. So last week. I gave Kurt, ah, crap online. He had picked, he picked the Patriots against the dolphins and I said, you were crazy. And he tweeted me back or, Hey, I'm just trying to make good TV. And then this week he goes, I never understand why there's so much attention for like the suits I wear on air. Right? Like, Because we got rid of Don cherry at NHL. So now we've got to pay attention to someone since yeah. Dawn Tierney suits. No. Okay. When you have some free time, Google Don cherry and it's it's it's hilarious. Keep going. And so he has, you know, I just can't believe there's so much attention. Like basically like women have said for a hundred years, right. Listen to what I have to say and not what I'm wearing, but I guess a lot of people are making fun of Kurt Warner. And so I tweeted a, the Drake a gift. Oh, you fancy. Yes. And then he tweeted back. He goes, I am fancy. Gosh. This is two weeks in a row. I'm working on Kurt Warner. If you guys want Kurt Warner on the Mark House, I think we're gonna, I think we're going to give it. Go for it. Alright. So moving on, Dorothy loves Fitz magic. What is this? This was. Saturday MFL Saturday. They last week Raiders took on Miami. Everyone knows, you know, back and forth, back and forth. Dorothy. Well, my wife will have never watched the team before and then like, we're watching the game and it's like, she has lived there her whole life. Right. It's like the Raiders, you know, they were the underdogs. They have the worst, you know, they weren't going to get in the playoffs or whatever. And she, so she is like all in, on Derek Carr, all in with the Raiders. And, you know, they, they went back and forth and then they benched two and then Fitzpatrick came out and then he had his face ripped off and he threw the touchdown. And she goes, I hate Ryan Fitzpatrick. And she hates Ryan Fitzpatrick with a passion. And then this fall though, is I'm going to put on here. It was the dolphin sweetie, the next day. And it was fit Santa's right. Is that the hashtag whatever the stupid word they use. It Sam that dropping dubs under a, under the tree, leave that link on there. Cause I'm really, but yeah, but she hates it and she hates Fitzpatrick even more at the, he has seven children. She thinks that that's unsustainable. I mean, Philip Rivers has like eight. Really. Yeah. And Antonio Chrome already has like nine or 10, something like that. It's ridiculous. Yeah. So I, yeah, Fitzpatrick I'm all, man. I want to fit. I also really did make a conscious effort this week to get a Taylor. Hi, Nikki custom, Washington Jersey. But they're out there they're out of stock or I don't know if they've just stopped making like the custom Washington football ones. Cause they're gonna, you know, they're changing the name again next year, but I really did make, I even like messaged the NFL shop on Twitter. I was like, Hey, when you guys going to be getting new customers, he's coming in. A friend of the show, not really a front of the show, but Scott van pelt is back on the man from his COVID diagnosis. So shout outs to him, hopefully, hopefully no long-term effects like we're seeing with other people. There was an article that came out. Today. And I hate to bring this down for a second, but apparently 30% of Ohio state athletes that had, COVID had some kind of heart issue after they've healed from COVID. So hopefully as well, Scott van pelt, and I've seen any long-term residual effects from his COVID diagnosis. Yeah, he tweeted. He goes, I can't smell. I can't taste either needed to do either to do a show. I've tested negative. I'll see you at midnight. It's like, yeah, if you've ever heard that voicemail phone call that we tried to play here on the Mark cast, once you can tell Scott van pelt has no taste. So JJ watt called out some players. I remember I paraphrase this, I read an article where he's calling us a players. Saying, if you don't want to be here, don't be here. Yeah. This kind of the end of the show. I just didn't know if you had any thoughts on this. If you saw this at all, or listen, I listened to the whole thing. It was fascinating. They're gonna get, they're gonna get a whole change of culture there. Look, it looked like it looks like they're going to hire Eric. Be enemy as their new head coach. And Airbnb is going to be a great hire I'm I'm dismayed and sad that Arizona didn't pull the trigger and hire Eric be enemy as their head coach, not the Cardinals, but the Wildcats, because I think Eric be enemy is going to be a great head coach. And once Airbnb comes in with that culture. People like JJ watt are going to thrive even more. I mean, JJ Watts, one of the best players you can watch on the defensive end of the ball right now. But when Airbnb comes in and Airbnb is going to have Deshaun Watson. That culture is going to be completely different. So JJ is kind of gonna be Jade is going to be that guy to help kind of bring Eric in and I'm telling you. The Texans are going to be fun to watch it a couple of years when they get some offensive weapons are going to be great to watch JJ Watts. Going to a. Definitely be part of that culture. Yeah, JJ, just, they lost last week. They're like foreign 11 or whatever. And he went on a big rant about like how, you know, we, we have the greatest job in the world and we're paying all these millions of dollars to come and play. And if you don't want to work out, if you don't want to be here and, you know, I just start thinking about that. Cause that, that God look at all these guys in the spring league and XFL and all these guys, it would just bend over backwards to come on here and do this. And I just thought, I mean, it's gone. I still have seen it circle. [unknown] yeah, this week that it just, it really resonated with a lot of people. And I think, you know, fans, we care and we want to see players that are passionate about it. Definitely. So would that being said, we're going to wrap up today's show this week. Show. Want to thank Jason, chase Baker again for joining us. You're on the Mark hasta. I know Reed forgot about you a couple of times, but I. I believe we recorded. I'm really picky. Do the interview first and then it's fresh in my mind. But now I'm looking at the clock. We have chase coming on in five minutes. You know, pseudo it's like inception here on the podcast and we're going to. I'm gonna record him now and insert him later in, in the, in the, in our break, it's going to be radio and podcasting magic that, you know, we're giving away all the trade secrets. So would that being said, I want to thank everybody for listening. XFL show.com/review is the address to go leave us a review exfil show.com/merge. Go buy some merge. We're going to put some more merge up now that we got a new logo read, of course, is wearing the hoodie today. And yeah, hopefully they, they, you know, we, we get more merged back up there because we had to change the. Yeah, and happy, you know, happy and the 20, 20 and happy 20, 21, you know, and this is coming out on years. I hope that this is a successful year for everybody, and we're only one year away from XFL football. So. Why not be worth. So here we go. We'll actually have something to cover without filling the Google doc with the garbage segment read. Right. Hey, we're making a half a. 21 weeks now we're getting there. All right. Thanks for listening everybody. We'll see you next week. Stop the music. Stop the music. It's always our luck. Whenever, like we go to post the episode. That's something breaks at the last minute. And as we're recording this. Dorothy's favorite player? Not so much Fitzpatrick Ryan Fitzpatrick, Fitz magic. The magic. Is positive. That's right. He's got COVID. That's crazy. Yeah. We were just, we're still on the zoom call. We were just finishing the zoom call or waiting for Joe. Come on. That is huge, huge, huge, laugh, invocation implications. I haven't known where to start with that too. Was their guy going forward to it as their quarterback going forward. He is the franchise quarterback. He was pulled only to kind of give them a, give them a little bit of a boost in that game against the Raiders. But. Tools is probably going to start any way against the bills. This is not that big of a deal, unless two, it goes down. And then, then we, then you've got problems in, in Miami. So hopefully to a stays healthy, they have a good game against the bills. I do think the bills are really good and they think the bills are going to give the chiefs have run for their money. So hopefully everything's okay for the dolphins on, and Ryan, Ryan is asymptomatic or has mild symptoms and gets over this really quickly because we want to see him back. So I'm worried more worried about just contact tracing to, with that. I mean, how does Al work out, you know, where you're like one of the lead quarterbacks, you know, it's not like a practice squad guy, the guy that they're, whatever you want to play off team on a playoff team too. So. It'd be interesting to see what happens with Ryan there. So let's go back to the music now and thanks for listening. We'll see you next week.

XFL Markcast - Episode 20 Happy Holidays Ya Filthy Animals! (ft. Ernesto Lacayo)

Alright, I'm gonna start with a soundbite. Okay. I am having a very bad day. I'm in no mood. This. Today. This is one of the worst days. And I've had a long time. No, not in the mood to play with anybody. You got me read. I feel you, Paul Merry, Merry Christmas. He failed. Baja bug. We'll get to that later on in the episode and why I'm in a bad mood. I'm not a bad mood about you. Nice mic by the way. Great microphone. Thank you. Yeah, Paul's. I for once pause. Bad mood to me, Paul was in a bad mood about something else, but that's okay. We'll get to that. We'll get to that later on to the show. Just stick around. And I'll tell you why I'm in a bad mood. But I was in a giving mood because read now has a new microphone. It is a shore. M V M. Let me figure it out. They're a terrible name, mikes. Mike's like at least Apple it's like app, it would be like alpha microphone. You've got to go. Yeah. I know Paul, hopefully we sound fantastic today. Paul got this. I got some new cables. I got a launcher. I don't even know what that is. pre-AP yeah. We are, we are cruising. It shouldn't sound the best that we can via zoom. And maybe at some point, we'll try to figure out, you know, recording off. You know, thinking, I don't know how all that works were going through zoom. It's Christmas Eve. We're airing this on Christmas day. We're going to do the best we can no edits today. Cause I gotta get up. Paul's got to get to work. And I got to get to my, my in-laws for Christmas. By the way I thought we were wearing Christmas sweaters, you're just wearing a Mar cast hoodie and a Santa hat. And I have. I have this. And then I say it for the audio, for the audio podcast listeners only. Why aren't you watching on video, but for the audio podcasts. Audio a podcast listener audience. I am wearing a sweatshirt that says now I have a machine gun. Ho of course, from one of the best Christmas movies of all time, diehard don't argue with me. It is a Christmas movie. Let's let's not even have this discussion, not even the discussion. Now I wear the Christmas. I had a Christmas sweater ready to go. And then Santa Claus came early this morning via the USBs. Dropped off. I have this, let me get out of the way. And my new, these are available. XFL show.com/merch. They run a little small, so it's great. If you want to get, Paul did a great job. He put this together. Thank you so much. But like, this is a medium, it's kind of this medium, you know, so I might be getting like, Dorothy might be wearing this one and I might get like L or XL, but they're great. I got one for my father-in-law for Christmas came today, and then I got one for a mama Markcast and that cam, and so we're going to give those out. Of course, the new designs of rolling out because we had to, we had to read. Adjust the logo we want to thank our graphic artists. I don't know how to pronounce his name. Biko Biko Biko from, from Croatia. Much love. He's been, he's been so solid and he's been so fast to turning this stuff around. I know he does the graphics for your business. Read guys solid. He's he's a, he's a good artist. So we want to thank him for his tireless efforts to get our, our merchandise within specifications and. Allowed to be printed. So again, XFL show.com/mirchandani that also XML show.com/review. To leave us a review. We got a great review this week. Yeah. XFL show that concept should view. I did not have this on pulled up. We had a great review. Came in. Zach, he's a friend of the show. He messages me a lot is Zach. I know you're listening. He specifically messaged me. He goes, Hey, are you guys going to have a Christmas episode? I said, of course. And we actually have a ton of none of this, like end of the year. Like good and bad lists. We got all new staff. Do they? Lots of news. Great people doing a great job. One of the top XFL podcasts to listen to these guys, bring it to the people week in and week out presenting the facts. We'll offer you a true, genuine opinions and not trying to sway you one way or another on issues, but just to show you that. What there is and give you thoughts and let you think about it for yourself. Keep up the hard work boys. Zach is a battle Hawk span. And I really thank you friend of the show. I appreciate it. If you're a fan controlled football XFL, TSL, we're going to be doing the MLF be all that stuff. XFL show.com/review. I really appreciate it. And Zach, thank you for doing that while I am an XFL Wildcats fan, of course, a Wildcats fan for the XFL. I have a soft spot for any battle Hawks fan because they support that team. And it was, it was so good to see them have professional football. After the Rams were taken back. Let's be honest. They were taken back. So it's good to, I have a soft spot for any battle Hawks fan. So Zach, we appreciate you listening. And thank you for the review. Thank you very much. Yeah, I appreciate that. So moving, moving forward. There's some XFL stuff that happened. I mean, I know Paul was making fun. I got like, there's a ton of stuff. I got two pages. There's a lot of stuff today. We got XFL. We got almost a whole page, just XFL staff. Cause normally we're like trying to vamp. There's a lot of news today, so I'm really glad to bring everything to people on Christmas. I hope you're, you've opened up your new PS five or whatever, and then you're going to have this on in the background. I know Jenna is going to be listening and she was asked to it, you know, episodes coming out. We got all this stuff. So Taylor Russell Lino. Wow. That was rough. That was a rough day, Pat McAfee, of course. I guess now you can call them professional wrestler, Pat McAfee. Vouch for Taylor said he was gonna do great things. And it was unfortunate that. Taylor had a bad day. Yeah, this is a rough one. You know, Taylor is kind of a long time, you know, trying to get to the NFL. We have an interview coming up with our Nesto today, you know, not to bury the lead team. I always freak. I like, you know, get too excited about all this, that bury the lead. Or NASA is coming on a Seattle dragons. And that's to look coil. Right? I did that. I'm sorry. I'm I can't even say like they read. That's okay. Anyway, or in essence, coming on, we talked to him about it too. Plus his whole journey. The, the point is, you know, to be a kicker. It's like day in, day out, you know, you live and die here recently, and they've got a chance, you know, going with the Broncos. And I was driving home from a gig and all I could see in, in the online chat was like, Oh, he really shanked it. And I was like, Oh no, he didn't miss a field goal. One for three on extra points. I mean, it wa it was a really rough day. The bills. I mean, I think it was like 48 to 15. I mean, they just like discussion everything. It was bad. I mean the bills. I'm going to say this, the bills are the only team. I'm sorry, Steelers fans, but the bills are the only team that are going to scare the chiefs. So, I mean, you're playing probably one of the best teams in the entire league. Maybe that's what happened, you know, and, and are now still love. Kyle's coming up and he'll discuss more about the psychological issues. That kickers have to deal with because I mean, these, these, these contracts that kickers get. They're not, they're not well for the kid. They don't do well for the kickers. Like quarterbacks get five years. $160 million, whatever. That's probably a stupid figure that I just came up with that. No, no quarterbacks would probably make it $38 million a year, but you get what I'm saying. Kickers don't have that. Financial stability. So it's really unfortunate for Taylor. I hope he bounces back. He just released a statement on Twitter. E V a T T G recently. Now it was an absolute honor to see that for the Broncos and my NFL debut. The gratitude I have for those who believe and believed in me is beyond any sort of words. It was a dream. Come with two, a moment. I will never forget opportunity of a lifetime is w it was a reward for consistent hard work, patience, perseverance, faith, and trust in my own abilities and confidence. He said, they're basically like, you know, the results were and exactly what he was looking for, obviously. But he said that it was one of the greatest experiences of his life. You know, I mean, he did what millions of people never play in the NFL. Right? So like he did what a lot of people have never done and he emailed put up and it was, it was a rough day. He signed back to the practice squad that the Broncos coach was not too. This Vic, what's his name? Vic. You got the on my van. Yeah, he. He really didn't have a great you guys. Yeah, I thought he was going to kick better. It's like, okay, well that's. Thanks, Nick. Thanks. Thanks Vic. I initiated it. I wish. You know, some people that I'm friends with wish you would coach better, but Hey, whatever, whatever. Yeah, he goes, well, he cared you better at practice. Alicia weather guy. You guys. Yeah, it was tough because it was, it was like blowing crazy blown when he goes, well, it didn't seem to have any problems for the other teams, kicker. I go, well, you know, I mean, let's. It's a lot of pressure. It's a lot of pressure to be a kicker coming up. But yeah, Taylor, I know a lot of the XFL guys and riders. You know, we all watched the game, Mike Mitchell, Josh, everybody, you know, and it was really tough to kind of see that struggle, but hopefully he'll be back. Also in the XFL. People that got cut. Josh Johnson. This is another big story. Yep. Josh was on the practice squad with the 49ers, you know, they've been having QB injuries and then Mullins went down, right? Did I miss this? The Mullins went down and Gruffalos hurt. And then they were gonna, they were basically going to bring on Josh Johnson to be the backup to they it's like their third string backup. Now I should know all this more specifically, but. 49ers third string backups starting Josh Johnson is going to be brought in potentially the play and he has COVID so they had to cut him and Josh. Ah, is really upset via his Twitter. He tweeted out, you can do everything right. And still not have it go your way. This hurts. And that is tough. What do you think about Josh Johnson potentially going to play what's going on with the 49ers and now that he's got. I mean, I think, well, the 49ers are eliminated for post-season contentions. That nothing matters right now for the 49ers. I'll just say that nothing matters right now. So they could, they could basically roll anybody out there in a quarterback. And they're going to roll somebody out there, a guy by the name of Josh Rosen. And I'm going to get to. It's coming up. People why I'm upset. Josh Rosen has to do with that. Josh Rosen was coming in. He was on the practice squad for the Buccaneers. This season. And he's probably not going to see a field for the Buccaneers cause they have Tom Brady. So the 49ers just picked him up and he's going to be playing for the 49ers. I CJ bathroom he's backing up for, I did have it in the Google doc. I was like, I dunno. CJ back there and he's playing, but just stinks. I mean, here's someone, you know, we really kind of thought, cause it was right around the time with the PJ Walker staff, Josh Johnson got signed to the practice squad and we thought, man, are we going to see another chance we were even thinking about, you know, having getting some 40 Niners, like insider stuff going on. I never really materialized. He's been on the practice squad and this has gotta be one of the LA I mean, I know Josh has been around for a long time. One of, I mean, this is as close as you're gonna get a, knock it back. I mean, what do you, think's next for Josh Johnson? Probably maybe a stint in the arena football league, maybe possibly waiting until XFL 20, 22 comes around. Who knows, who knows? Aye. How old is Josh. Now I was just going to ask that he's he's up there. He's he's advanced a little bit. Yeah, I think he's in his thirties. He's 34. So this might be the end of the road for Josh, unfortunately. That's tough. It is tough. Definitely wish him all the best though. So would that being said, another XFL, a signing. Yeah, I, Michael Dunn. The Cleveland Browns, he was on the practice squad. They're signing him to the, to the main roster. That's go. We always like to see that. Just, I got some discipline tidbits today about a lot of people get inside, but he he's getting brought onto the active roster of the Browns are cruising right now. I I'm thinking I kind of want. Dorothy hates the brownstone disease. I either want a Nick Chubb Jersey, or I want to Baker Mayfield Jersey. I wish there was some relation to the XFL so I could wear one of these, but I love big I'm all in on Baker. Mayfield, Mayfield. Well, it's going to be interesting if. Okay. Let's let's let's let's let's get this, let's get this out of the way. This is going to be a very interesting. If the Browns went out and the Browns only have the jets. And the Steelers. Yeah, they're killing this dealers. They're killing. If they win both those games. And the Steelers lose. The other game. The Browns win the division. And the Steelers started 11 and O and the Browns will win the division. When did we think we'd ever hear anyone say those words, the Browns are gonna win the division. So I can see why you're in on Baker Mayfield. Right? When I was going to say is, and I got. I note later to talk about this in the garbage segment, you know, Juju you and all of his fricking logo dancing. Now he came out that he's not here's the deal Baker Mayfield can make all those commercials. He wants to, as long as he's winning on the field and she's, you is not doing anything. And I don't want to hear this, like, Oh, he's building his life brand. This guy needs to get the play going on the field and leave the dance. And Baker Mayfield can make all the, you know, the hot pocket. He's deep frying, the Turkey. He's putting grassy as long as you're winning their 10 and four. Yeah. It's stopped dancing, a logos Juju. That is that is that guy needs to knock it off. Did you see the light? The overdubs that the people were posting on Twitter. I can't get enough. It's great. It's great. He got lit up. He got lit up. Mangoes are not playing. They got Jim Ross commenting. They have Paul Heyman. Gore Gore, you lost to the bangles without Joe burrow. The guy they drafted to be their franchise quarterback. You lost to that team, stopped dancing on logos, Juju, stop it. I got my X-Box series ass and I was like setting it all up and I thought, Oh, I'm not even going to watch. I'll just turn this game on for like the final corner. I flipped over. I was like, why is this happening? So I watched that that was a, that was a crazy game. All right. So the space force. Do you know anything about this? This is one where I'm like, this is what we're dropping this on. Paul. This is ridiculous. I saw this and I was like, Oh, first and foremost, Marvel's going to Sue them. I think the XFL is going to Sue them. Marvel's gonna assume the guardians. Of the galaxy. Yeah, the space force, right? That's the sixth branch of the military, right? They're getting there, getting there, getting there, getting one, 2 billion in the COVID relief bill. Yeah, so they are marked market. An expert on the use of. Is is fired up about this too. He, he got this on my radar. He's like, wait, there's only one guard hands. It's the New York audience. I'm like, okay, Mark. Like, you need to settle down a little bit like, Oh, hi, Mark. Yeah. I like what Mark gets a little fire that, but yeah, so the space force is being called the guardians and then their logo is the star Trek logo. I'm not probably going to do a lot of video editing. Today is if you want any contacts, this Google space, forest guardians. But there's the, and there it's the star Trek logo. Yeah, it is. It's I, I said that when I first saw the thing, like, well, they released about a year ago and I was like, it's the flipping star Trek logo. Like it's, Starfleet what w. Like, are we. Do you think we're dumb? We've looked at it. It's star Trek. But anyway, so you don't think XFL is going to say, do you think that Disney is going to see before that. It's like the guardians. But it's like of the galaxy. Come on. Mark's fired up. Anytime you can get Mark Perry, fire that I'm here for it. You're here for you're across the street for it, as we say. We'll house XFL lawsuit update. That's something that's still going on. And what's the latest on that? You said that Josh just haven't had an update for you. This is a restraint from straight from the horse's mess. The last night I'm sitting there and it's like 1130. So that's Josh is in Philly. So that's, you know, two 30. He is he's going on and on about this Nick man. Thanks. So here's the deal. So last week we talked all about this on the podcast. Josh Johnson came on. David's not Josh Johnson. Yes. Josh. That would have been a huge episode. You should have listed that Josh Davis came on and that, you know, this isn't football stuff, but this is related to the XFL. This gets a ton of interest. Whenever I post this stuff online, a lot of people want to know this, so here's the deal. So there's the deal. There's the phone. All of our lock has a phone. They think it's got information on it. They have the phone and all of her Locke who is suing for wrongful termination and $23.8 million. He will not give them the password for that. So supposedly there's been some clarification now. So alpha entertainment, Paul does on the phone. They gave it to all of our luck. He gave the phone back a couple of weeks after the bankruptcy. And so the question is so, so this is what Josh meshed with me. Josh has been covering this all last night. Today. There were worries brought on by McMahon that luck had deleted evidence since luck had admitted to Dealy. To deleting emails and texts after he was fired. And before he returned the device, big manager needs say there were settings on the device like iCloud, right? I'm sure they could automatically delete stuff or it sets up to expire. And they're worried that because of technology today. The luck could do that remotely as well. So the judge ordered lock to give up the passcode. And an independent third party is going to image the phone, preserve the data and that no one could see the data on the phone until it's ruled whether or not bins can see it on January 12th. So all of our lot, we're recording this on Christmas Eve. He has, he had for noon today to like turn over the passcode. So, unfortunately, We'll bring you the update next week is Christmas Eve. We're, we're doing the best we can here. But so that, that, what, what do you think about that and how do you have those details? I would think that it's going to be in recovery no matter what, I don't see a reason why that wouldn't be in recovery and. Have both. I guess both sides already look at it. I don't know why it's going to a third-party and then the judge is going to determine, I think if the judge has already ruled that, that a third party is going to get access to that data, it's going to be in court. Well, the, the idea is in Josh talked about this last week. So there's statutes where it says that. If you're an employee, you have to turn that stuff over. But because luck has been fired that he doesn't have to turn that down. If he was in employee and the phone and all that. And so Josh says it's, it's illegal for them to hack the phone. They'd have to reset it to remove the password. He's never given them the code. So he's never given them the code for the phone. So as it sits a lot in Connecticut, Doesn't provide former employees access to that information. Only the current employee. And so that is kind of the update. I just it's really interesting. There, there has to be something on the phone. I would think at this point it would be long gone. If luck deleted, the staff gave the phone back. I mean, this is back in April, right? I mean, they supposedly they've had this phone. Right. I don't know how they're going to re image the stuff. No. Like what's what's next? Are they going to ask for Luxe, iCloud account? Log-in info. Like I don't see how this stuff is still on the phone. Yeah. And I'm presuming it's icon. I mean, it could be Andrew, but I'm just thinking, you know how like iCloud, that'll back up all your stuff automatically. And you've got email. That's the, I mean, I know that all the different services have that I just, I have Apple products, so I get imagined. That they think of this stuff might exist somewhere, but. I don't know. I just, I have, I have a hard enough time finding the little emails for like wedding clients. I have let alone, like stuff that's been deleted off a phone. You know, seven ma I mean, back in April, it would have been, yeah. That's true. I don't, I don't see a. I don't see them actually obtaining any relevant data from this. So, well, the instant set on it. So lock needs to turn over the code today. They're going to give it to a third party. They're going to image the device and then. They'll basically, that's going to do like a stop gap. And then, like I said, the question is this, if this stuff is already gone, it's long gone. So that's the, that's the whole idea about that? Want to congratulate Danny Garcia for being recognized by USA today, USA today, sports. For being in a list of. Just people that were contributing. For the good of sports in 2020 rough year. Of course. And of course, Danny Garcia. Named on that for being the driving force behind buying the XFL and bringing it back. Yeah, let's go, you know, I like her getting the, you know, it's, it's her, it's her baby. I mean, the rock. Trying to get in the face, but it's Danny's thing. And it just was cool. I think that school, anytime that the exit Belkin get a shout-out and then USA. With Danny Garcia. I mean, I think that that's great to have. Moving on to Carolina Panther stuff because we're, you know, we're, we're definitely seeing what's happening with PJ Walker there. The Panthers have fired their GM. Marty Hurney who has had apparently two stints as GM in Carolina. That's a great name for Shamari or any Marty Hurney. So it's like a hockey name as opposed to a football name, though. Right. Let me a little bit. So they fired Marty Hurney again, I don't know if they fired him the first time. Maybe he resigned. I don't know. But they have fired him and. With the way things have gone from Matt rule. There's a, there might be a chance that Matt rule's gone too. First-year coach. I mean, yeah, that's the question, right? PJ's their backup. Rural is a big PJ Walker Mark. Right. And so we're kind of afraid that if rule goes, then, then Puget, we're going to. Because, like she knows, said numerous times. They drafted we'll Greer and they'd kind of want to give it to will Greer after Teddy Bridgewater, you know, after they. This Bridgewater contract is over. Whatever happens with that. You'd like to pass it to William Greer, but of course we want, you know, PJ Walker to be the guy there. So it's going to be interesting to see how this shakes out if they get rid of that rule as well. So we'll see. Yeah, because Matt rural had coached PJ at temple. And so that's kind of that connection just to, I don't know if people know all that you just be. Yeah. That's the background is, is rule. Coach. PJ knows him. Brought him on. And you know, obviously got to play this year, had success when Carolina that lost to the Packers got smoked again, Aaron Rodgers was like so mad. He's never been like more angry to lose, to win a game. He's like, we're not gonna do anything in the playoffs if we play like this. But PJ Walker has one has led the team to 25% of the Carolina wins this year. Yes. It's a.one to four, one to fork at BJ was there. He's got it. He's got a good one. To get a percentage. Yeah. I mean, that's crazy. Might want to consider keeping them on or, you know, Potentially. Potentially you're like, you know, training him, maybe. I don't know. If you had to throw me that BJ Walker would leave the Panthers for 25% of their wins this year, I would say that's crazy. I think you wouldn't have said that because you're a PJ Walker fan. I think he would've been, like, I could see that I could see that. So would that being said, I'm also, do you want to cover this TSL stuff now? Or do you want to take a break and pay some bills real quick or let's let's cover the TSL stuff. Yup. And then we'll take a break, come back with her. Ernesto look IO, and then, yeah, let's just, let's just blurry is through this since it's a Christmas and we have things to do with people to see. Couple of just some do some real quick signings at Kent Shelby friend of the show here. Go on with all his spring league staff, he has resigned with the Toronto Argonauts. So congratulations back in the CFL. You know, I know that can't had some issues with the food and how he was being treated in the spring league and some, maybe. Are we going to get an applause for sure. That's good. Here's one for ya. Our boy, it's not like we don't know him, but he played for the jazz masters wide receiver. Urban Philips never played on TV ever. The Jasper has got, you know, our, our pick for the spring league team. Brian would still says we have our merge coming. I messaged him after the spring league. Game. I didn't even mention the merge. I just say congratulations. I know there's people. I know, Kenny. I know you want to know what's going on. Kenny message. You see all the time. Have you got the merchant yet? He said that they didn't bring any jouster stuff to Orlando. And so when he got back and he promises, I didn't even bring it up in the email. I just said, Hey man, congratulations on the spring league, you know, we saw you on TV. I'm really glad the game was good. You know, Brian, Scott, all this other stuff. And he brought it up independently and said, I promise you justice. Phosphorus merchants coming. So I'm just saying what I know, but anyway, Josh masters. There's wide receiver. He is going with the Ottawa red blacks. And then just some other TSL signings, blues, defensive, and Cedric Wilcots is going with the blue bombers. San Diego wide receiver Blake. Jay Jackson is also go with the blue bombers and an Alpha's defensive back. Jacquez Cully collegial. Cleo is signing with the red black. So a lot of these TSL guys are going into the CFL now, which kind of makes sense. They can do that in the meantime, and then hop on the XFL here right next February. Right? Next February of February 20, 22. So would that being said, we're going to take a break, pay some bills, come back. We've got Ernesto Lacayo from the Seattle dragons and his new arena football team will discuss that coming up right after this. Hello. We got, we got the train too. Yeah. I'm outside of the gym right now. Sorry, guys. Okay. Merry, Merry Christmas. How's it going? Guys. Good to see you. Thank you so much for coming on. I appreciate all the support and everything you've been given the podcast, and it's great to talk to a fellow Seattle dragons. So that's good. Definitely, definitely been exciting. Watching your guys as your podcast and your videos and stuff. So it's an honor to be on here with you guys. Perfect. I'm definitely. How's it going for you right now with, with everything? COVID you name it? I mean, it's good. I mean, my, my girlfriend's a doctor at Scripps hospital. She's, she's actually doing with like the worst with all those COVID patients. But for me aside, I mean, just, just lucky to have a gym open and then the fields are open and be able to train. You know, my routine is still kind of the same. So at least that hasn't been like too out of whack, but for the most part, I mean, everything's been doing. Pretty well. You know, My distance at the time with my friends and also at the same time, the guys who I trained with, so things are good right now. It just seems like the kind of thing where you guys, I see, like you pause it, it just all the time. Right. You kind of have to be up on it all the time. You can never like, even though you can't lose it and then get it. Does it just feel like it's a constant, like always happened to be at like that peak performance. Yeah, you have to, as a free agent, cause you never know what to call, especially being a kicker or a specialist, I should say. You just never know when that call's going to be, and it's better to be prepared and not have an opportunity then to have an opportunity to not be prepared. So that's the way we, you know, we have to approach it every single day. Where, whether it's being in the weight room on the field sessions, you know, just work in the little fine tunes of stuff in your craft is what makes it go a long way and being ready for when the time calls. Talk about, talk about life as a kicker in professional football. I know that. A lot of the players get guaranteed contracts, but that I've heard, that's not really the case for kickers. No. It's a position. Like I would tell a lot of people, it's a physician it's really easy to do at practice. But when it comes down to games, nobody wants it. It's a lot of pressure. And with contracts and stuff, you know, you're better off doing one year deals. Wherever you go, whether in the NFL or an arena, football or XFL, just cause the fact that, you know, it's just the safer thing for kickers because you know, most of the times the battles in, in between our years. And, you know, UBC. You see a lot in the NFL now, audit kickers and bad seasons and stuff. And so it's a gamble with us as kickers. But, you know, the best ones that tend to. You know, adapt, have longevity. And make it work. It just seems like it's such a thankless position, right? Where it's your universe. I have a hero or then it's like, they're done, you know, moving on to the next, I mean, where does it first off? How do you, you know, obviously deal with that pressure and that stress, and then, you know, what is it about being a kicker and the specialists that draws you into that to, you know, cause not everyone. Could handle kind of that, you know, it's like live and die by it every day. Well, you want to make sure that when you're younger, you go through those, you know, bumps where you're able to make those transitions. Because coming out of freshly, out of college, I think guys or everyone misconception, everyone's ready at college and mentally, the guys are not ready. They're young. And they haven't gone through a lot of scenarios that they would have gone through and professionals that they would have in college. So, you know, having to deal with those bumps early on your career, making the transitions, learning from your mistakes. Is what helps you keep going forward? As far as who wants to be a kicker all the time. I always tell them people, you know, you gotta be a little bit of nuts to do the job. Cause at the end of the day, like you were saying, Everyone either looks at you as a hero. Or, you know, you're the black sheep at the end of the day, just depending on, you know, doing your job. And that's what it basically comes down to. You talked about college. Then you go to college with someone very famous, famous in the football sphere. So like community college. My quarterback was Julian Edelman. At college of San Mateo, he was. Pretty much the offensive weapon of all the time. So I didn't get a chance to kick much community college until he left. And then I transfer over to Hastings college where, you know, I was flourishing because, you know, they actually used me at community college. High powered offense. I mean, I was waved off. A lot of times I've worked down because it'd be 14 and 15 and Juliet on that would be like, nah, I got this. And he was a hell of a quarterback. And so to see that transition that you made as a receiver, it's, you know, it's not surprising as body of work was amazing. Even back then. Something. And not that we haven't had a, you know, we just had like Brian Scott on last week. You know, exciting guests when I announced that you were coming on, it just seems like you're a real popular, you know, with all the XFL riders that we, you know, I talked to every week and X amount of people that falls to me, and then that's true. Right? So like, what is it? Is it your personality? Is it your body of work? Is it the engaging with everybody? What is it about? Cause there was a lot of people like, Oh wow, that's awesome that you're going to have him come on. And what is it about that? Because you know, You don't get that with everybody, right? That you announced to come on the podcast. I mean, I would say, you know, I'm not a very vocal individual. I mean, I don't really say much on game days. And I think the popularity has always been that, you know, I'm very disciplined. And then I worked very hard at my craft and, and to be able to play this position and the game for as long as I have a very well-respected in the arena community. And also just in. Just for professionals because of the way I carry myself. I'm pretty old school. You know, blue collar guy worked really hard at what I do. And, you know, I'm not, I'm not one of those guys where I like to, you know, show bow and stuff. You know, I always give credit to my teammates first before anything else. And then the fans too, I'm always as much as people think that I'm very quiet when it comes to fans. I'm very vocal with them. You know, when people message me, I love to have conversation with them. So that's probably the reason why, you know, a lot of people are really excited to always talk to me and I'm always willing to talk football, exit bell, especially. And more than anything, the Seattle dragons is it's probably why that's my popularity throughout the years. During your time with the dragons, what was it like? You know, being under court coaches, Oren, who's a legend in the Seattle area. What was, what was all that experience like? Under him and playing for the correct. It was definitely fun. It's something that I haven't told guys who were all NFL free agents. And I'm like, it's pretty hard to see what the NFL would be like and how we were replaced. The, the feeling that I had in the XFL. Just being able to play under Jim Zorn. Talking with them about VWs. Cause he loves Volkswagen stuff. And so those are the conversations I had with him at practice. More than anything else, aside from football. And just the organization was top-notch and not only that, the fan atmosphere. That was amazing at playing that's. Century link. That's something that I'm not sure I will ever get, again, just hearing the roar of the crowd like that. It's something that I'll always cherish and miss, but every day that I was there in Seattle was amazing. Playing for that organization, just the day-to-day operations. It was just top top-notch and everything. Of that store. Yeah, that's definitely that, you know, w we watched a lot of these other legs and I mean, especially right now, obviously, you know, there there's no audience, you know, anywhere right. Are very limited, but you know, the XFL definitely offered that. Just that chance to have, you know, in Seattle we had like 26,000 people or whatever. I mean, had you ever played in front of anybody like that and had an experience like that? No. I mean, in arena football, you have organizations like the Arizona Rattlers and the Sioux falls store where they have a big fan base and they're, they're in basketball stadiums. So yeah, everything's pretty loud magnified. But I didn't expect, even after the first game we played in Washington, it was pretty, pretty good crowd in Washington. But when we got to the first home game in Seattle, And I had to kick off first. I couldn't hear myself. Because I can take my. I have to count my steps back at my kickoff. And I had to yell them out loud because that's how loud it was. And it was so electric. So there was nothing so that sore and I'm like, I can only imagine how. Loud this stadium can be if we even have the top Dixville. So the fans really made the experience. That was the home field advantage. And, and that's something that I'm not sure we'll ever be replicated again, unless we go back to the Seattle team. Yeah, we were, we were in DC for that. We, we flew out. I made, I made sure. I said we gotta be there for them. You know, first game of the XFL, but then especially like with the dragons, I was like, I gotta be there to see what all this is going on. Yeah. You have been a soccer stadium. That was a, that was a good atmosphere at the hat in Washington. But nothing tops what Seattle and even St. Louis had, they both had great fan base loud, really behind him. Whether you're up or you're down. We're always engaged. What were your thoughts when you heard the rock was going to buy the XFL and, and the acquisition went down and all that stuff. It's funny. Cause I, you know, we were all training here in San Diego. It's kickers and we were all being asked who were in the XFL. You know, it was an, a by the league and we had heard rumors. And they were just rumors and sell that, that Disney my bike. And there was all these things. That. You know, options that were out there and then suddenly, whereas we're stretching, we hear from somebody, the rock just bought. The XFL and we're like, wait a minute, what? That was like a left field. But then as you took time to process, like. Ah, well, that makes kind of sense. You know, Vincent now is selling it and wants to keep it somewhere within the wrestling community. And so we were excited and, you know, and just to hear him and also how much Danny Garcia was really excited. Cause I think she was the one that really brought it to the table at the other day. It's so. She gives a lot of credit, you know, he may be the face, but without her, I don't think there'd be much of an option or who knows who else would have been buying the XFL? Are you looking forward to potentially getting the call when they, you know, we're, we're kind of getting through this Drudge of, you know, Nothing happened this year. Right. You know, we all kind of thought maybe it would come back in February, I guess. First off. Did you, were you anticipating a February launch this year for the XFL? Relaunch. We definitely were a lot of us. Can I trade with Brock Miller are the punter for the Seattle team and the other guys too. Like the snapper from the Washington DC. And so we're all kind of getting ready. We're always staying ready also for the NFL and kiss. The call came and everything. But when that, when that, when that announcement came out, as far as they were going to come back in 2022, unfortunately, it's, it's safe to say it. A lot of guys. Retired the day of that announcement came out because guys got to move on and, and it's unfortunate, but you know, we're always having to stay ready. We're excited to hear back from our teams and we, sometimes we keep the communication with the organizations. But it's all like in limbo, a lot of guys in the organization don't know yet. What's going on. But, you know, like Brock and I were like, we're getting, we're always ready. We'd love to come back to Seattle. And it's good to know that our coaching staff, we did so well in our unit that they want us to come back. If they are coming back as well. So it's just a matter of, you know, waiting, which is something that's cool. That's. Cruel and punishment for us as free agents. We're just wanting to get things going. And for sure a lot of guys are looking for other outlets. Like they, some guys went to the spring league. I'm myself. I'll be playing in the arena leagues again, just to keep, keep my craft, you know, pretty much go in and then just be ready. Say when the time comes for training camp. Have you been talking with anybody? From from the, from the league or from other teammates or coaches about, you know, coming back or the potential to come back. Yeah. I mean, I've been in communication with our director, player, personnel, Tony softly, or the Seattle team who was a guy who ended up signing me. And Zorn. I talked to him a couple of months back, but I haven't heard much from him. It was just more of staying in touch and, you know, congratulating here for, I think his daughter was getting married at the time. The snapper for the CFO. For the Washington DC. Ryan Corr, we always train together. We're always talking. So, but all we keep hearing is the same thing. No just hold on. Title June, July, when we were expected to hear something back or when they resign. So we're also waiting on maybe potentially hearing from the rock. Cause I think he wanted to address to all the players. That were on their respective teams. Hey, that they know they, they love the fact what we did. Don't we're not going to leave you guys hanging the dry. So it's just a matter of who would. It was willing to come back to the teams was not retired and moved on. That I think they'll give us that opportunity to pretty much finish what we started. You said you're going into the arena leagues for this upcoming season. Any, any place you're looking to land or you already, already. With the, with the Arizona Rattlers, the one of the most historic franchises of the indoor football last arena football. A team that I played against 17 times draw my career. That I've never been. So it's just one. You can't beat them. Join them. Right. Exactly the old cliche. So it was one of those things in like every time I played there. And those fans knew me better because they're like, well, you're always playing against us, but unfortunately, you know, I never been able to beat them. So it's an honor to play for an organization like that, that were bringing me in, but they call me right after the announcement was made at 2022 wasn't to be the starting year for the XFL. So lucky to be playing for them and in a good organization. Now, you know what, at least. Keep my crafts were working the whole time. So when the time comes. Awesome. Let me ask another question. I didn't have it. I thought you might have one. Yeah. So I guess moving forward are renally getting ready for the XFL? What else is on the table? What, you know, what else you are you looking to accomplish? You know, you've played in, I think I was reading like 42 different States, right. For years and year. All these everything's. I mean, Is it to get to the NFL? What's your goal here, you know, trying to move forward. The ultimate goal is always to come and get ready for the NFL. And that's the dream. But, you know, as years went on and playing in the arena football league, You know, being able to establish myself there and to prove that even the small school guys and even the arena guys can play at the high level was something that I always wanted to prove to help the next generation. And. I mean, I couldn't tell you that years ago and I will be playing in year 10. My professional career. I didn't expect that. Let alone in 2020. Was, I was never expected to even play in the XFL. Cause I had trained with Garrett Harley, who was a kicker for the Seattle dragons first. And so I was never expecting that. And then too afraid to happen. It was a dream come true to play at that high level. Amongst a lot of my peers and guys who I've seen play in the NFL. It was something where I was very happy and grateful to play in the XFL and possibly in the future. But the NFL is always a target as well, just to be able to make it there. And just to represent mama monitors, as well as the ice from small schools and hopefully for the XFL. So, I mean, we're still staying in shape at the same time. We're having virtual workouts and combines. That we always have to be prepared. So it's not something that. We can take our time, you know, take some months off. And then restart things out. We just constantly always have to be in shape. One thing. I'd be remiss if I didn't ask you before we go. Taylor recently now, you know, he was kicked for the Broncos over the weekend. How the rough, you know, rough go of it. Right. You know, it was, it was a challenging game for him as someone that, you know, To see someone else, you know, kind of get to that, you know, something you're trying to do. What was it like? I mean, he really struggled that day. What was it like on the hearing and watching and seeing what happened? While we kicked together before, you know, he's a very good call, a solid kicker, and it could happen to anybody. Unfortunately, you know, it was, it was not the best conditions for guys, but, you know, The argument can be made for the other guy. And he did his job as well, but you know, he's a solid kicker. He did exceptionally well in the XFL. I think it's great. That he kind of transcended it and made some, made that push to actually playing the game. And he did make one point. At least that's a big, that's a big move for a lot of guys. Cause he comes from a small school as well as division three. And so, you know, it's unfortunate to see that. But it happens in this, in this professional law and it can happen to anybody. But you want to make sure, you know, When your time comes. You make the best of your opportunity. And good or bad, you want to make sure that whatever happens, you continue to learn and grow from those experiences. You said half the battle is, you know, most of the battles up here. What kind of things do kickers do when they have those battles going on to kind of clear their head and get. Get back in the flow of things. I mean, one thing I learned in 2014, when I was in the mini camp with the 49ers. And the kicker back then was Philadelphian was a veteran. And one thing that he taught me was be able to have a short memory, but his thing was every time he had a good kick or a bad kick, what you would do, he'd go to the sideline, drink a cup of water process, the kick. And once, you know, you throw away the cup that got that kick was gone and they helped me out throughout my careers that you want to make sure you have a short memory as a kicker. And not live in the moment. So once it happens, it happens, it's done kickoff fuel, go or pondered, et cetera. You want to make sure once it's done you process it quickly make those fine adjustments. If it was a bad kick and then make sure you move on. And that comes with experience with a lot of years of playing and, you know, I've had a lot of good. Moments a lot of bad moments that I can probably tell you more about the bad moments and the good ones, because those are the ones that really help you out and, and make those adjustments to succeed and grow. And hopefully Taylor does that are nursed a lot. Kyle, thank you for your time. Current Arizona, Rattlers kicker and well, possibly current Seattle dragons, kicker too. Joining us right here on the Markcast. Thank you. It was exciting. You have that? Yeah. Merry Christmas and hope you guys. I hope you're able to do some fun stuff. Thank you so much for making the time Christmas Eve. I would also be remissed. If I didn't say, give your girlfriend a thinks she's a hero she's on the front lines, fighting this thing and we appreciate her sacrifice. Thank you guys. Appreciate. It's always an honor fun. Keep doing what you guys are doing and have a Merry Christmas. You too, stay safe. They say. Thanks man. Thank you. I appreciate it, man. So we'll post tomorrow. Thank you so much. All right guys. Take care. Okay. All right. Want to shout out Ernesto. Just drop it in a great guy. Nice guy. Great interview and we appreciate his time. Definitely. Yeah on Christmas Eve. He said, I said, Hey man, I know it's kind of weird this day. We're doing it on Christmas Eve. Paul has got to work. I got to go, you know, we just, it's kind of, he goes not a problem at all. I'll be there. I'm happy to be there. So I just, I mean, true, true Testament to him. I really appreciate that. And I hope he has a successful run. The football. Li, you know, time this year and then get back in the XFL next year. I've actually been to an Arizona Rattlers game when I worked in Tucson. And I can tell you that the atmosphere is insane at an arena football game in Phoenix. So he he's he's he's in for a treat. Now that they're going to be cheering for him as opposed to against him. So would that being said, it's time for like our garbage segment. We're just kind of, you know, discuss things that kind of happened around. Sports and stuff like that. So with that being said, I know you texted me. You texted me about this thing and I saw some event and you were kind of annoyed by this camera. Oh, the new NFL camera. Yeah. So I see, I see Hawks played Washington football team, which apparently they're thinking about leaving that be the name. Did you hear about that? They really are that they're like either. I like it. WFT I like it, man. Washington football team, and they've already got the lead. Yeah. Is it. Here's the funniest thing. So I'm a wedding videographer. I deal with a lot of camera stuff, you know, I see a lot of camera staff, whatever. Right. So good morning football did this to you. So NFL had this crazy. They called it like, well, I'm, Paul's. I mean, I'm just saying from me, you asked me my opinion on this. This particular topic. Paul is also an accomplished Emmy winning photojournalist. I have never won an Emmy. So that tells you everything you need to know about all these things. But anyway, I'm just saying, from my perspective, I watched his game. Be able to go and crazy at the end zone camera was like, you know, it looked different and people are like, what's the deal? It looks different. What's going on all this up. So good morning football did this whole rundown of it. And first off, I've got to focus. It couldn't, the focus was too thin. Yeah. The depth of field. It was too Dan wasn't wide enough. It wasn't wide enough to capture, like I want the end zone. Kind of want to see everything. So they do this thing, Peter Schrager on good morning football does this whole thing. He goes, yo was talking with the Fox guys. He goes, it's just, it's a Sony, a seven R four. That's crazy. I go that camera retails for 29 99. That's a $3,000 DSLR camera. There's literally nothing fancy about this. It's got it. He had a cannon. You know, they're like, Oh, and it's got a Canon lens on it. That's crazy. It's a Canon lands. I'm like, I guarantee you, some of the stuff I have is more expensive than what they have going on. I mean, they have the big steady cam put into it, right. And obviously it's got a, you know, good HTMI out or whatever, you know, broadcast quality, right. Output. But. Literally, I, I got a twenty-five hundred dollar lens that I have that I use, like, does that, can I go shoot NFL games now? You can apparently. They made a big deal about this camera. It's like, Anybody can buy this camera that has $3,000. Yeah. This has got a camera that is like, You know, like you're gonna break the bank, buying it. And I know that people, I'm sure people are like, Oh, $3,000. I, yeah, that's not cheap, but yeah, I, you can, I mean, there are cameras that are 6,000, 10,050. I mean all the way. I mean, this is not. Like. The ones that we use, I have four of them. I think they retail for 2,600 bucks. So kind of our bread and butter that we use, you know, 26 to $300,000. So it's really not, but may have people went crazy about this NFL thing. They're like, Oh, and then they're going to bring the technology to the game next week. I'm Mike. Please don't. Well, I'll just get [unknown]. Or get a wider lens and we just don't need to quit gushing about it. They're like, Oh, it's like watching a movie. I go, it's probably just the frame rate. They probably just shot it like a 24 P and they're like, Oh wow. This looks, this looks cinematic. That's exactly the way, like, see, everybody was like gushing over this. I'm like, it's. It's a flipping DSLR. Yeah, it's really not. Really nothing like you would expect the NFL be like orange. Spend $3,000 on the cameras and make it sound like a $30,000 Greg. It's not that no. This is weird. And then just watch him be your shirt. And all of them on there, because they're all just these like, you know, not idiot, but they're like these weird dummied down like sports hosts. Oh, I want to get, I wanted to get that Sony camera with the Canon lens to, I might not. It's really important. You can afford it. It's really not that right. No one. It's not that big of a deal. What are the chances that friend of the show we just talked about this man. I was getting ready to watch his highlights last week and, and good friend of the show. Scott van pelt was not his usual anchor desk and I found what is happening. Scott van pelt has COVID Paul it's real. It's not a hoax. It's real. What happened? Lots of old too. He's not old, old, like he's all he looks old. Oh God. So ball people look old weed. People look old Reed, is that what I'm hearing is that what's hot in the streets. Is that the rumor. So the funniest thing, I just texted all this this morning. And so I was pulling images to do for our Christmas theme, a thumbnail for the video. And I went on. Others, a truck going by outside. That's annoying. FedEx. I had the window up in my, my sweatshirt. It's so warm. So I went on to my Apple computer this morning, cause I was trying to find pictures of the ball. But for the, for the video thumbnail. And so you can search by faces. And so you're one of the faces. And then. A little bit. Pit bull. Computers racist. That is my computer rate. Since this. That one. Oh man. It was crazy. I couldn't believe it. It was so funny. You should, your computer should be ashamed of itself for insinuating that all balled Latino's lookalike, but he was, he was like, ballpark. And then we're a big pit bull fans at this house. So ask. I have pit bull. Well, Dorothy and I are, don't ask me what I have pit bulls photos on my phone. I literally had pit bull included with all the different images. But anyway, Scott has got COVID. Alright. I hope he's okay. I'll be gets better soon. Definitely. Dwana clause needs to die. Yeah, I know he's doing work for charity rocks doing this Dwan to cost thing. It's not a name. He it's good for. It's good care. I mean, he's going off. He's helped doing like healthcare workers. He's given them like Tara Mondo, tequila and stuff. That's good. So speaking of due-on-sale clause. Van tried to throw a little Quip at me on Twitter and it, and it was not, it was not the right time. And when we're going to talk about why I'm a little bit upset, why I'm a little mad. Okay. So I was born and raised in Tucson. Avid Arizona Wildcats fan. And they fired Kevin Sumlin, which, you know, should get. [unknown]. So when they said they're going to fill the position. A lot of directors, like we need someone that bleeds Arizona. You know, red and blue in it. And how's the community tonight and has ties to Tucson, blah, blah, blah. And they go and hire a guy by the name of Jedd fish. Jed with tutees fish. Gen ed fish. Who has no ties to Tucson? Who has no experience coaching, you know, being a head coach, he's just been like a quarterback coach. He's had like 10 jobs in 13 years and. I'm befuddled as to how this happened. Because I thought, I really thought that they were going to bring someone in that had ties. And could sell the program to recruit because that's the point is like, you want to be like, I'm, I'm ingratiated with this community. I get it. I understand what it's like to be, you know, a wild cat. They bring this guy in that, you know, interviewed last time. And apparently because he's friends with the president of the school, he gets the job this time. This is ridiculous. This p****s me off. Because, you know, Arizona wants to be, their fans want to be taken seriously and they don't want to let me laughed at, by the school of North Arizona state. And then you go on hire this guy. Who's never been a head coach. Whose whose only recent job was with the Patriots. He's been the quarterback coach there. And do you want to know what cam Newton's quarterback rating is under Jed fishes to tillage it's 44.7. This is ridiculous. Why did they do this? And it's unfair to Jed. It really is because I'm sure the jet is probably a nice guy that just gets a lot of jobs, 10 and 13, different years, 10 different jobs in 13 years. I'm sure. He probably is a nice guy and he's getting a bad rap. But the fact of the matter is, is like the nepotism. Of being the president's friend and the athletic director is selling this one thing and giving us another, it's just. It's UN it's unfortunate. Again, Arizona football is going to continue to suck and I'll never see my Rose bowl. I'll never see one. A friend of the show. Zach, I mentioned before with the review, he messaged me, he was messing me about college football. And I said, I went to Gonzaga. We didn't have a college football team. So I don't. Really care. Like my wife likes the Huskies and so that's fine, but I don't. Yeah. I'm sorry for that. I'm sure it stands to have a. But are you just because you live there and you were born there? I mean, is that you're never went to school there. Yeah. But I live, you. Cause I had a scholarship to go other places. So it was like an in-state tuition thing where I was already in a different state. So I was like, I'm going to save as much money as I can on school and little did I know later on like, you know, schools, would you be so flipping expensive? Like. Probably the, the cost of the difference in cost between when you went to school. When I went to school, it was probably thousands of dollars now. So it's, it's rather unfortunate and I'm one of, one of Jed fishes. Jobs actually, he was an interim head coach at UCLA and you know, his quarterback was Josh Rosen who is now going to be backing up at. In San Francisco and yeah, Josh Rosen on that game against Arizona. When Jedd fish was the interim coach for UCLA. Josh Rosen threw five picks. This is what we have to look forward to. This is what we have to look forward to five pigs. That's good. Do you didn't cams coming back next year for the Panthers. For the Panthers. I mean. Patriots. Sorry. I Oh. I think camp has done. You think he's down for good. Either camp's done. He's he's had a, he's had his best days. He's done. I don't know if it's like psychological or if it's physical, but I don't think he's just, he's a shell of who he was. And I think it all started that Superbowl when he was all pouty sad, man in the, in though. Eno in the flippin post game press conference, where he was just like sad and pouty. I think it was done then like his career was over then. And I hope he proves proves me wrong. Because I thought cam was really electrifying. I just think that if, if that was what it was that ruined him, that needs to go talk to a therapist or something and work through the feelings because. We all lose games, man. As, as a former athlete, we all lose games. Do you have any quick notes? Cam's got the new AirPods max. I tweeted about that. I saw him warming. He's got here, bonds, max. The other thing I forgot to tell you this, I'm just going to text you. So I was watching the MFL get ready. Right. And that Kurt Warner's on there. Right? He's one of the analysts. And they were picking Miami or the, or the Patriots and Kurt went with the Patriots. Right. And so I tweeted, I go. Kurt Warner high, like what is happening? And he responded. He's like, Hey, I'm just trying to make good TV. And so then I tweeted back my raving GIF. I said, why the Mark. That's great. I called Kurt Warner, Mark. That was the highlight of my day. And you can make a comment right here about Kurt Warner's wife may be making that prediction form. Oh, is that. That's the thing, that's the thing. Just. In your off time, just research Kurt Warner's wife situation and how she kind of dominated his career a little bit. And it's, it's, you're in for a treat. Anybody who isn't familiar with that? Google it. I think her name was Sandy Kurt. Warner's wife. It was people make fun of him all the time for that stuff. So anyway, we're back on college football though. The fry bath. Did you see the fry bath? Is this and save these links because I will try to add these on at the end. Is that a thing? Dumping fries. I know Gatorade. I know dumping Gatorade. I guess because it was the Idaho potato bowl. Which is a stupid name for a bowl. Idaho potato bowl, they dumped a French fries. As the celebration for. The coach and they got 15 yard penalty for that. Okay. The fry spelled on the field. Oh, my gosh, that's going to really affect the field of play. They've already won. Yeah, they got a 15 year old healthy. I saw that they dumped fries and then they dumb Gatorade. I would hate, I would. Why would hit all of that? I would definitely in Idaho. It's probably cold. It's freezing right now. Why would you want to get wet? You'd be waters. One thing I would hate all that sticky and my grease and all that. Why, why, why do you dump what? I don't know why you would ever done with it. I mean, obviously this is beautiful. Maybe the fries weren't fried. Maybe they were just starched in and just cut from potatoes. They weren't fried. Maybe there was no grease. I hate everything about this. I mean, there's someone that's OCD and I would shower six times a day if I could. I don't, but I could, and I would hate the idea of fries to be important on me. I just couldn't think of anything worse in the world. Did you see this coach running through the door? I didn't. I just saw that leak right now that you put up Isaac. That's awesome. Oh, my gosh. This poor guy. The coach was trying to hype up what. It doesn't say what school it is. I don't have it pulled up. No, it just says drew Fez. But he like was trying to hype up is like team and like halftime, any like elbow down. Wow. Yeah, keep that link up. I hope they win. I hope they won that game. Wow. I gave you might need soul, a shoulder surgery. Yeah. He's probably like hyped and that he, that he turns around to his assistant goes, Oh, that FN hurt. Wow. Yeah, couple funny stories there. Yeah, the fry bath and then the coach running down with bank. Hopefully gimmick the door, like maybe made the bolts loose, like, you know, how the gimmick things in wrestling kind of, you know, not be as harsh. I hope they like loosen the bolts and we're like, yeah, let's make it look like you knocked the door down and it was already kind of office. Okay. Anyone that's been like a high school or college, like, you know how thick those doors are like in life. JCMS and stuff like, you know, like everyone, everyone can, you can picture that, right? Like anyone can picture it. Like how heavy that metal door must've been for him to elbow throughout. Did you really ask? What's a BM. No. Baby mama, baby mama. Chad tweeted. He was buying buy Versace purses, right? Chateau St. Girlfriend at the show. I was tweeting that he was BI, I didn't know where the BM was. I know a bowel movement, right. Baby mama. I think that's what a baby mama. I would have, it was like maybe like bad, bad mammo, bad mama JAMA replies, or just something to be great. Let's see this long haired Italian chick. She said, Ashley [unknown]. She says, by the way I move, let me shoot you. My new address. Okay. Wait, Ashley will play someone tweeted Jad, like Dave they're like, Hey, can you give me attention or something? And he said, Ah, you guys I'll send you my cash app thing or something like I don't work for free. Don't do that for free. I thought, man, Chad's trying to get. He is hustling. Wow. Yeah. I just thought, I didn't know whether it be M was, and I like to include a little bit of chat every week. I didn't know what. Or applies a grade of one, somebody says Aanuka. Oh F says the person's had McDonald's gift cards inside. That's amazing. That's great. So would that being said Merry Christmas to everybody. We did it. We're listening. We got through it. We got through three pages. Although, you know, half it was a background on our, our special guests. Again, want to thank Ernesto for dropping by Ernest to look IO. From the Seattle dragons. Thank you for your time and interacting with us here on the Markcast. We will definitely see you soon. With the next episode. Well next week, right? Yeah. I mean, who knows how much stuff is going to be able to talk about? So you'll find something I guarantee. Leo take breaks here. You will find something to fill that Google doc. Guarantee it I'm here. It's a quote, the. Duke Nukem. I'm here to drink mountain Dew and tiger about XFL. Yes you are. And I'm all out of it. I'm all out. Mountain Dew. And you're all out of stuff on the Google doc to talk about. Enjoy your Christmas, sir, I'm going to enjoy mine. I'll be working. You'll be hanging with your family. We'll we'll we'll touch base soon and, yeah. Thanks for listening. And Oh, cool. Your XFL Markcast sweatshirt. xflshow.com/merch. Yeah. We're both broke. So buyer march, please. Thank you. We'll see you next week.

XFL Markcast - Episode 19 The Spring League Crowns A Champion (ft. Bryan Scott and Josh Davis)

I'm rolling. I'm recording. You are good. I am. I'm glad that I recorded it for our big, I'm glad you recorded what we did earlier, before we started, because when we record these podcasts, sometimes we record them out of order a little bit and then edit them and place them in. Anyway, the product you hear is the product that we produce and it might be, you know, just join it on our own end, but we want to make it smooth when you listen to it. And we appreciate all of you listening to the XFL Mark cast want to thank everybody who left us some reviews this week. Did anyone, did we get any new reviews or no? No. And that's just, my point is, is normally we have tons of reviews every week. We really appreciate that this week I know new reviews and I posted one online and I think it was the spring league news said, Hey, that's my one that I posted it from like a month ago. I said, well, that must mean that we need some new reviews. So a XFL show.com/review. If you are a fan controlled football fan, spring Lee, we got a ton of spring league stuff today. We have you know, of fell stuff. So if you're a fan of any of that stuff, XFL is out XFL show.com/review. And it just helps them out. My self esteem, you know, when I wake up, we have Paul and I have stresses outside of life. And it really adds to just ease all of our minds to know that all you out there are leaving reviews for the podcast. I appreciate it a lot. And we're, we're working on getting our merchandise situation figured out. We had to change up the logo a little bit, but we're going to start rolling the merchant back out here within the next week. So a standard look out for that. Sorry, if you wanted to buy one for Christmas, things are a little bit behind right now, but we'll get those out to you. And of course, when that happens, exfil show.com/march will take you to the vendor to purchase all of your XFL Mark cast merchants. Yeah, I popped on a couple of those. I mean, I don't know if they'll come in time for Christmas, but for for mama Mark Mark caste. And and then my father-in-law, I bought a couple of those. So the new Mark Cash sweatshirt. So hopefully I'll, hopefully they turn out good, but yeah, no new sweatshirts, we got like a hoodie one and then a normal, like a non hoodie sweatshirt. But yeah, I did have a couple of things. One comment. I know last week I railed on me, the XFL, the sh XFL owner's hat, the, you know, the horrendous one. I don't even have it anymore. It's in my bedroom about the rock. And we got a good comment on our Facebook group. Cause I posted about Jim Zorn, how Jim's Orin doesn't have, you know, the XFL dragons on his Twitter and this listener left her very insightful review. And she said, well, you know, maybe all the XFL coaches right now took that stuff off of Twitter, which is honestly probably the answer. But then she said, Hey, I don't really care about hats. And to that, I say, ah, we're making the XFL content. So when there's XFL football to talk about, we'll talk about football. In the meantime, we're going to be talking about hats. So we got to have a weekly, we've got to have a weekly podcast. That's how this business works. And if we got to talk about, and Jim's Oren's Twitter account right now, then that is a, that is what we're doing. Look at the glass half full we're not opening card packs on you Backs. And I do speaking of opening things though, I have a very exciting Jersey, little old school Jersey coming this way. Little West coast old school. Well a two thousands Jersey. Maybe Paul knows what we're talking about here, But about 1.0, I got an exit fell at one point though, a great deal on it. Verified seller through eBay, got a kinase bootleg. Is it? No, we also have that one coming too. That's being shipped, but I, yeah, we have a it's cool. So it should be here hopefully in time for the podcast next week. Really excited about opening that. And then for the podcast next week, I just sent you a Christmas present and hopefully you get it and you use it next week on this show for Christmas. And I hope you appreciate that because I appreciate you. No matter how much of a hard time I give you about the Google doc, I do appreciate you. So we want, I wanted to like send you a Christmas gift. Hopefully you make good use of it. I know I make good use of what I have when I use it. So that'd be, And also speaking of the Google doc van, the man number one fan doesn't, he thinks we should call it the show rundown. He thinks that it's confusing. Oh, thanks. Thanks. Thanks, bam. Yeah, He thinks he goes, he goes, ah, he had excellent feedback on the Patrick DS interview. Last week, co founder, chief gaming officer, a fan controlled football. He felt, he goes that an excellent interview, like van is all in on fan controlled football, which you all should be. But he did say that we should call it the show rundown. Cause he thinks a Google doc is kind of confusing. I think the Google doc is funny though. I think calling it, the Google doc is funny. So people know we have a shared Google doc that we, you know, I update throughout the week. And that's what we talk about. It's kind of the rundown of the show, but just in case So that, you know, that being said, when, when Reed fills the Google doc out three pages, I roll my eyes a little bit. I'm like really? But then again, you know, it is the XFL off season. Nothing's happening for another 400 and some odd days who's counting. So we need stuff to talk about and read, takes plenty of time during the week to fill that out. And I appreciate the work he does finding stuff like that. So sure. Can we plug our big interview before we get into all the XFL stuff I don't want to, Let's not bury the lead. Yes. we got Brian Scott coming up, Brian Scott Of the spring league. I really appreciate. He said, you know, I'm sure phone's blowing off the hook, social media stuff. I really appreciate it. You know, Brian, he's still in his hotel room down in Orlando, you know, just won the big spring league game with the general. So thank you so much to Brian. We have Brian coming up and then we're going to have Josh Davis. He's the, you know, the exit doll news hub guru when it comes to the spring league and, and all that stuff. So he's going to be coming on to kind of give his thoughts and kind of round out the end of this spring league. And then supposedly there's going to be another spring league in the spring. But anyway, I didn't want bury the lead. We do have Brian Scott MVP of the spring league coming On the show and people were like curious on Twitter. Like who's the special guest? Well, Reed worked his tail off and got Brian Scott to come on and agree. And we appreciate his time. It's a great interview tune in for that. We'll just, we'll, we'll get to some news about the XFL right now. And then we'll, we'll take a break and discuss we'll discuss Brian Scott with Brian Scott, about his time at the spring Lake. I'm looking back now and shadow to Cinco friend of the show. He's right. He's got his own podcast. He's on all this kind of stuff. You know, we kind of, he was on our show week too. I mean maybe Brian, Scott, right? I mean, not same personality as St go. But in terms of like success and you know, career trajectory, I mean, it's only maybe we are like, what was that movie? Good luck Chuck. Right with Dane cook. That's like I said, we're always going to kind of be here, but our guests are going to like, sorry. Remember what Dane cook was a thing for like 13 months. He was like the biggest comedy. I mean, he was the biggest thing in the world for like two years. And then never again, You ever see that thing with Louis CK where he's like, that year was simultaneously the best year of my life and the worst year because people started accusing him right after he blew up of stealing jokes, which you know, I've listened to the material. I'm like, yeah, you kind of like, cryptid a little, those jokes, Crip keeping they call it. But yeah, Dan cook, wow. What a throw back there. But that, that, that could be that's our podcast. We're the good luck Chuck of the XFL. So, But you would hope so. And with that being said, maybe we're good luck, Chuck, for a Sergio Castillo, Sergio Castillo, this was horrendous. I tweeted, I said, because the jets play BC Hawks on Sunday, we killed them like 40 to three. We brought in, we had a Gino Smith siding. I mean, when was the last time you saw Gino? You know, the was playful as, I mean, they pulled, wrestle out. I go, I'm turning on bed, the Eagles. And the Eagle saints game, you know, I rarely do I turn off a Seahawks game, but I was like, this is in the bag. But Istio missed three field goals. And I said, you know, I appreciate the XFL love where he made one, but then he missed three. So the, you know, so the Seahawks, but yeah, the jets cut him and then resigned them back to the practice squad all in the same week. Whether whirlwind, I don't understand that. Normally when a jet, when a kicker gets cut, that's it like, it's, it's hard being a kicker in the NFL. It's really hard because your, your contract isn't guaranteed like the other, the other people, like you, you fight for that paycheck. And it's, it's just interesting that they kind of then sign it back to the practice squad. That's that's an intriguing thing. Maybe they, maybe they wanted to kind of like, I don't know, having worked through maybe some psychological problem that he might have on the field. I don't know what, I don't know what's happening, but this is this interesting call. And I mean, the jets are a mess. Let's be honest. I mean, Adam gaze, the minute he was hired, you know, the, the, the press conference, you've seen the video where his eyes are like going all over the place. The jets of the fandom with the jets, I mean to be a New York fan, trust me. If you play for a New York team, you are under more scrutiny than you are in anywhere else in the world, anywhere else. I mean, soccer. Okay. We'll give you the exception on soccer. Football is a different animal, but when I'm talking about like U S American sports, when you play for the Yankees, when you play for the jets, when you play for the giants, when you play for the Knicks who are terrible, we've been terrible longer than I've been out of college. The New York Knicks, when you play for a New York team, you are under scrutiny. So imagine if you've irritated, the jets fan base with your coach hiring, imagine how they are right now that Adam Gates is still the head coach of the New York jets. This is a mess. This is a mess. I know. I mean, he was good. Obviously we want to see the XFL guys, you know, succeed in Sergio. He was the one that kind of did the shotgun beer thing for the rednecks. That was kind of where he had like the bud light, platinum, whatever the sponsor was for the XFL, like the Corona light, beer seltzer, whatever it was, that's kind of where he got famous. But yeah, you certainly hate to see that missing, missing three or four field goals and getting cut, but Hey, he's, he's back again on the practice squad. So speaking of practice squad, I'll segue, Paul's update in the Google doc Jordan [inaudible] star Bella Hawks QB got finally signed to the lions practice squad. He had toured there a week or two ago, Mike Mitchell reported that and a gray for a TAMU. You know, I don't know, maybe this year, if it's going to do a much good, I mean, the lions are pretty shot, but you know, maybe leading into next year, you know, Matthew Stafford is injured right now. And you know, they're trying to get some depth in the QB position. So I was like, what's that doing in there? Yeah. So I'm really excited for Jordan. You know, he was with the achieves practice squad, then he got cut you know, he had COVID and now he's back again. But yeah, Mike Mitchell was kind of following that, but yeah, Jordan is back on, I mean, the lions are, are a disaster. I watched them get destroyed on Thanksgiving. And then what's the guy the coach got fired, Patricia. I mean, God bless him. Yeah. I mean, there, there are some people that are better served being coordinators. Matt, Patricia, probably being one of them. Kevin Sumlin is probably another one that should definitely be a coordinator. That's going to be a hot button for me too, because that was embarrassing. That was as someone who's grown up in Tucson, I am. So I was so mad when I'm watching the Arizona Arizona state game and within 56 flipping seconds, Arizona state is up 14, nothing on Arizona. What, what are we doing? What are we doing, Arizona? What are we doing? I talked to I talked to Marcus Griffin, he's a former defensive end. He actually transferred when a rich Rodriguez was fired. He actually transferred to central Michigan. I talked to him a little bit. He was very, also very opinionated about the Kevin summit thing. And we'll get into specifics here regarding whatever whatever's going on with Kevin someone's personal life. But Kevin, someone's better served as a as an offensive coordinator I think. And we'll be discussing potentially the reasons why Kevin Sumlin had great success early on, later on in the show and that that'll tie in and you'll see where we're at all comes back around full circle when we discuss why Kevin Sumlin ever got the job at Arizona to begin with Going into our garbage segment at the end? Nope. Oh, okay. It's actually something related to an actual football league, so you'll see how I tie that. Good. anyway, so yeah, so, so Tom was going good. The other thing, and this is, I just put a couple of notes in here, you know, she, and a quick, a friend of the podcast, she covers the Carolina Panthers. It just seems like she is having to do a lot of talking right now, defending Teddy Bridgewater. It seems like online with Matt rule that, you know, Teddy that, you know, they got killed last week. They're playing the Packers this week. I guess I didn't watch the whole game. I guess, Teddy, you know, didn't call the right play. Or there was some question they've if he, if he kind of superseded rules decisions, and it just seems like not as all, well in Carolina right now with Teddy Bridgewater, you know, we know we saw PJ Walker play earlier. This season won a game. I mean, what do you, I know we've been talking for weeks, what's the deal with Teddy Bridgewater? That's a good question. Did, did they sign, I'm not, I'm trying to figure out when they signed Teddy Bridgewater to his deal. What's that his big deal, right? I mean, it's a big, it was a big deal. Yeah. I'm trying to figure that out, but I guess Teddy Bridgewater called a play that wasn't called, like kind of audibled and when you pay a guy he's getting at what 8 million this year, when you pay a guy 20 million next year, you're paying him to kind of trust him with those calls. So I see why why that rule kind of said, I saw what he saw and then but he still shouldn't have called that play. I don't know, man, I I'm just trying to I'm just trying to figure out when Teddy Bridgewater signed and when Matt rule signed as a head coach, It just seems like an all vamp while you're looking at them. I mean, it just seems like, you know, you've got PJ there. I mean, they're just so tied to Teddy. I mean, I think, I think there's a lot of money there. I, it just, it would be nice to see, you know, we had talked about giving Teddy a break when he got hurt, you know, he came back. I mean, I know we're like pipe dream and we're XFL. Like obviously they're going to go with Teddy, but we just, we like to hypothesize here, but I just wish the PJ would get another locker. Matt rolls a first year core, but this is his first year as coach of the Carolina Panthers. So I don't think he was really in a position to make a decision on who would be the quarterback. And that was done at the front office level where like we're gonna bring in Teddy Bridgewater, he a great year in new Orleans. We need a franchise quarterback and you know, it's unfortunate to see because Teddy had such a great year last year probably playing for his next deal and he got his next deal. So I think that's why Matt is kind of sticking with him a little bit because he knows like this is still the franchise quarterback, despite the fact that PJ Walker had a great game you know, we're, we're going to see what happens. And when Matt rule, if, if they, if they give him a little bit more leeway and a little bit more decision-making maybe he makes a call to try something new out. And, you know, I don't know who's going to take on that $20 million salary if Bridgewater's not the answer there, but it's going to be interesting to see, to say the least Because I follow Sheena without, you know, she she's come on a couple of times to talk about kind of the feelings, you know, in Carolina with the fan base with BJ. And I was like, man, she is, there must be a lot going on because there was just a lot of like defending and, and, you know, kind of explaining what was happening. I, I understand where she's coming from. And I think like people in Carolina are potentially irritated with the Teddy Bridgewater situation and rightfully so fans do have a right to voice their opinion. If they're spending money on jerseys or tickets or NFL league pass on just DirecTV. Cause apparently you don't, you only get one game on Apple TV. When, when, when people are voicing their concerns about the quarterback situation and Carolina, I think that that's why Sheena, you know, is quick to defend me. Like, look, we're paying this guy 8 million this year, 20 million next year. We really don't have an option. We're not the Philadelphia Eagles. We're not going to sign a guy to the extension that didn't win the super bowl and then sit him on the bench behind Jalen hurts. I really that's. You want to get me amped? I had a Twitter discussion about someone with someone regarding this and I don't want to get into it again. So we'll, we'll talk to Josh about the Eagles later. I want to hear Josh's thoughts on Jalen hurts. Let's do that. Let's you know, we'll, we'll throw that in there to Josh. We'll throw him a little, we'll throw them a little curve ball the way he doesn't expect it. Like, so Josh, do you want to discuss your Philadelphia Eagles? Because if it weren't for the New York jets, they'd be just as bad. So The last thing about the XFL, this is a wild story. You know, we started our very first episode of the XFL, Mark Cass with our, all of our luck lawsuit. Watch, you know, what's happening all of luck as soon bins for like $23.5 million or whatever wrongful termination. So now this is wild. Vince wants access to all of her Lux phone and he wants that password. And all of her luck is saying, get out of here. Okay. So it's not going to be a popular opinion on I'm on Vince's side on this one, if it's a company phone and the company gave you the phone, he has a right to the passcode. They're saying that he was in employee, but it was his own phone. What say you for that? I pull it up. Josh's right. I I'd love to I'd love. I mean, that stuff is stuff in discovery. Like if it's his personal phone, all they gotta do is hand over a phone bill say, look, here's my Verizon phone bill or T-Mobile or at and T or, Oh, wait, Sprint's not a thing anymore. Here's my phone bill. Here's my phone number. Here's my name. Here's my payment information. It's my phone. I paid for it. Luckiest, stipulating. The Vincent not provide the device and therefore it doesn't have the rights to the contents. Vince is claiming that because Oliver was an employee doing employee stuff on there. It's a horse over a different color now. Okay. So let me, let me let me present something to you. An employer took away some phones from, from I'm, I'm leaving this very vague on purpose against state law. Basically their, their loophole was, well, we can't take away the phones, but we can take away the service on the phones. And then you, you know, what, what good are the phones? Okay. So basically the company offered a stipend to the employees on their personal phone. Like here's, here's an up, here's an amount of money per month for your phone. In those situations, there was a contract that was drawn up where it was like we get to pick your data plan and we get to pick this and this. And I'm like, no, no, no. You know, and, and, and I saw that and I was like, Whoa, you guys shouldn't be doing that. Basically basically events paid for any of that phone bill. There might be an, there might be an argument. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's, I don't know. There must be. Cause, cause the whole thing was yeah. And the, he said that all of her lock, but here's the question he's saying all of her lacking and maybe use some of his phone stuff for not personal. Is that worth wrongful termination on a five-year contract for $23 million? I mean, that's, that's the question, right? I mean, at the end of the day, if I feel, if Vince is not paying for 1 cent of that phone bill and all of our luck is still conducting business on that. And isn't asking for any money to conduct business on his personal, some of that he pays the bill on and Vince doesn't give him money on that. Like what's the, what's the issue here. What's really the issue that Vince's getting. Well, yeah, there must be, there's gotta be something on there, some data or something on the phone to offer, like doesn't want him to see. Right. I mean, if it was text message, well, I don't know. I mean, you would think at this point I would the format of that phone. I would've thrown it in the, in the, Well, if it's his phone, if it's his personal phone, this is there's. There has to, there has to be more to this story that we're not getting quite yet that I'm sure we will get in due time when the case continues to play out in court. And of course we'll cover that. It says, well, I was just going to say, it says December 17th, it's going to be in court while apparently today is December 17th. So I hear this for today. Yesterday is technically where this is airing on the 18th. So, well, yeah. So, well maybe all of her, like just got a a hundred million dollar pay off today that wouldn't that be typical XFL. Mark has fashion. We go to, So we always go and publish the podcast and then a breaking news thing happens like an hour after. It's frustrating to say the least, we're trying to keep you guys up-to-date but it is what it Anyway. So yeah, they they're still going out. I still think offer's going to get some money out of this, but you know, Vince is not settling. I mean, the fact that they're going and doing this, I mean, Vince is he's locked down, you know, Oh man, this is going to be interesting. So we're moving on. TSL championship, of course chorus happened this week. I was working in the field. I couldn't watch read. What were your thoughts? Yeah, it was, it was a good game. I mean, it was, I think the biggest disappointment and Josh we'll talk about this later too, but Cod Bethel Thompson aviator star quarterback I dunno, they claimed it was injuries. I don't know if it was COVID or injuries. He did not make it to Orlando. So, so from the get-go, you know, the second day set up the game, they go, okay, you got Brian, Scott, you know, star quarterback of the generals. And then you have this backup that really hadn't played at all with the aviators. And so that was kind of disappointing. They were really off to a slow start. Brian Scott talking about that in his interview, but you know, the game ended, it was like 34, the said 10 30, four 17. Don't quote me on that. I'm sorry, Josh. I don't have the specific score. I'm sorry. We don't have that in the Google doc. I don't, I have the, I have the link. Let me see, I have this on there, but anyway, it was a slow start, you know, they got to you know Brian Scott through it through a bunch of TDS you know, we had a was where is the score? This Josh not having it in the thing. Maybe, maybe not general for 24 eight. I don't think he has it in here. Wow. This is wonderful podcast name. You saw Brian Woods though. We did see Brian Woods at the game apparently, right? Yeah. Yeah. So yeah. So, so a friend of the show Brian Woods he was on Fs one coming out, bringing out the game ball and bring it or the MVP ball and then bringing out the championship trophy. So I, you know, that gift or Leonardo DiCaprio was sitting on the couch and he's drinking and he's like, that was me when I saw him probably once was a friend of the show for the show. So are you looking up the score? Do you want me to look up The square? I can look up the scores. So you saw A couple other notes while Paul's doing this. So we had generals running back, Darnell Holland. He had a, he had a great game, a monster runs 51 yards on five cares. He had become a father that morning of the game boasted from that, you know, he was him and his, his wife and the baby. That was awesome. Vance specifically texted me. He watched the game. He wanted us to make sure that we know that that Mike Singletary, he was the General's defensive coach and he was the defender's defensive defensive coach back in the XFL. So that was you know, Mike Singletary. He was previously with the 49ers and then we have bar Andrus. He was that team nine head coach in the XFL and he was the head coach of the generals. And so you, he kind of gets the credit that those two for putting together. I mean, the generals really were a winning combination and I guess bar Andrus, he was like the winning this coach in a NFL Europe van wanted us to, I know you're a big NFL Europe Mark, So I used to be back in the day. So yeah, that's interesting stuff. The final score by the way, was a 37, 1440 17 generals. That was really hard to find that final score. I was like looking everywhere, typing Google friend. And you were doing that too. So it was interesting. It was hard to say the least define that that what you call it, that final score where you'd think that they put that right on the front page of the spring league, we'll have to get with Brian on that. Like, Hey, why don't you put like a press release? Hey, this spring league is over for a year. We warranted a champion. But 37 14 of course we'll be talking to Brian Scott here in here in a moment about the experience and coming back from COVID No, I Channing Stribling, he was a former dragons and he had a, he had a big pick of the season. He had to pick six. And so that was another Channing Stribling. I can not pronounce that, but he was a defensive back with with the dragons and he was with the generals had got, gotta got a pick six. So that was kind of a big, you know, one of those things, Things run back. Those are always really exciting. Awesome. Awesome. So we're going to take a break real quick do some commercials, thanks to our podcast distributor. They they're throwing some commercials in here coming back though. We got the MVP from the spring league, Brian Scott coming up after this. How's it going, sir? And are you guys doing good? Yeah. And I appreciate you making this work. I know it's been, I can only imagine the craziness of the last two days with everything, so, Oh, no, no, no. You know, I, I appreciate you guys, you know, being supportive and, you know, cheering for the generals and all that. So thank you guys for having me on congrats on winning the MVP, all that, all the accolades that are coming with the TSL what's what's life been like for you in the last 24, 48 hours? I'm just very grateful, I think is the word that sticks out for me. You know, just the, the way that 2020 started as you know, it's just been a bad year for so many people and just to look back on it and have it end, you know, coming to an end here and just to have been a part of something so special, I mean, I've been a part of championship teams before, so you can always look back on that and you always remain a family with those guys for the rest of your life. I mean, it could be 10 years down the road, 15 down, 15 years down the road and you go, like, we still have that group text and it's like, Hey guys, you know, remember when we won the championship during COVID and we played professional football league, we played in the Alamodome and led to Orlando made it work. So honestly just, just grateful guys, just really grateful and you know I'm honored to been a part of that team for sure. Yeah. What was it like with the big, you know, a championship game, you know, in Orlando? Can't be world safe. I got my WrestleMania Jersey from, from there. What was it like playing in the big stadium and having all the bright lights on you? It Was cool. I mean, those two stadiums are the biggest two stadiums I've ever played in. You know, I come from a division three school, so we had, you know, one side of the stadium. But it was cool. I mean, at the end of the day, it's just football. You go out there with the, you knock the other 10 guys and you try to make it work and try and do everything you can to get a victory. Of course, you know, for championship games, the pressure's on a little more, but I thought we did a good job as a team. You know, just staying together. We didn't, we didn't, we didn't have a great game offensively in the first half, but, you know, I told the guys second half will come out and you know, get it going and get back to what we got us. What got us here. Yeah. I kind of attributed that to just obviously the time off. Right. You know, you guys have been kind of jelling and everything. How many practices you guys have before the game when you guys got to Orlando? And do you think that that led to, yeah, just the slow start because in the second half it was, you know, balls to the wall. Yeah. just two practices. I mean, and they're kind of like the first one was a walkthrough, you know, cause guys just kinda got there. So we, we didn't want to get anybody hurt, but you know, I, like I said on air on Tuesday night, you know, we have gained such a good friendship on and off the field. And I think when you, I'm a believer in, when you guys are friends off the field and you care about each other off the field the, on the field stuff will take care of itself and just playing for one another, having that true respect and love for one another is why we were successful offensively. And as a team I got, I have to address the white elephant in the room. Were you concerned about this going off without a hitch, given all the the trouble that the TSL ran into? Say that again, where you were, you concerned about this potentially not happening this championship game. We know there was a lot of stuff that happened with the TSL prior to this, were you concerned that this, this championship wasn't gonna happen? And You know, I'm a big believer in Bryan Woods. I think Bryan Woods has done a great job. You know, just for me personally, in 2018, he got me three NFL opportunities by being able to play in that and go against Johnny Manzell. And you know, he had talked to me and just kind of asked me if he thought that we could get the generals to come back. And, you know, I took that upon myself and I wanted, I kind of wanted that challenge to try and get all the guys to come back. And so that was for the last two weeks or however long after we left San Antonio. I think a lot of guys really weren't sure if we were going to play or had that same mindset that you guys think where it's like, Hey, I don't think there's going to be a championship game, but in my mind, you know, being just who I am, I, I knew there was gonna be a championship game cause I wanted, I wanted to play again. You know, I wanted to have the feeling that we had on Tuesday. I wanted to end it with that championship feeling where you're holding the trophy and you rush out on the field. And that I I've been a part of those moments in my career. So I wanted to feel that again and I, those guys to feel that, so yes, I knew it was going to happen. And I wanted, I felt that responsibility to try and get as many guys from our team as I possibly could there A lot more exposure this year, being on Fox sports and all about what was it like, and, you know, we watched every week and EO lots of kudos to you and the rest of the players, you know, on your team and others just being able to be, you know, on TV like that on broadcast. What was that like? And what's it been like, you know, obviously afterward, you know, a lot more eyeballs on that You guys, because of everything that was great. I mean I think it was fun. I mean, once you get out there, you don't really Emily and my friends and guys and people that I care about are able to watch it all over the world. And you know, that in itself, I think brings you know, it's own little pressure for a lot of guys, but I thought we Rose to the challenge and, you know, it was definitely cool. So I appreciate Fox sports air in the spring league and giving guys like me an opportunity to show what we can do on national televisions for circle, You blew all the stats out of the water, right. You know, through, for a thousand yards, all the TVs and everything. What was, I mean, by far one of the most successful runs here in the spring league, what, what do you attribute that to? Is it just having a good team? And what, what, how do you feel knowing that you kind of hold those, those kudos in that title now? I think it's just you know, me working really hard in the off season. I think I tried to just get better every single day. And I do, I have great teammates. I had a great receiving Corps. I had a great old line. I had a great coach and coach part Andrews. And but at the end of the day, I think, you know, just our ability to execute out there and guys made plays too. I mean, Sal made plays, KJ made plays, Kelvin McKnight, I'm sorry. Jordan Sewell made, plays our running back. Our whole running back unit did really well and our own line too. So the stats are great guys, but I've been in positions before where I've had the stats, but you know, we didn't win. And so I'll take the wins and the championship any single day. So that's the stat that I care about the most is coming out at the end, undefeated and winning a professional softball championship. And don't have a one on our last call. So for sure. Cool. So you played in the TSL two years ago, if I'm not mistaken, why did you, why did you come back again? This this go around, are you, are you trying to elevate your profile to potentially get on a NFL team, CFL team, X ability maybe? Yeah, I came, I came back because I really enjoyed the spring league in 2018. I really have a lot of respect for Brian Woods. I thought he did a great job at 2018 and it's just been going up and up and up ever since. So I think in 2020, I for sure took another step up whether they do it again in the spring we'll see what they do, but right now I'm really just happy to be just really grateful for the experience. And I'm grateful to have been on that team and to come out on top, What was your reaction to kind of the big shutdown and not being able to play that, that week four leading into the championship game? Of course, you know, like I was ready to play. I mean, when you put in all the practice during the week and then, you know I, you know, I wanted to play, but you know, I thought the league did the right thing and, you know, shutting it down and keeping the players safe and, you know, they did a good job by doing that. So you know, prompts to Brian and promises the sprinkling for taking care of us. And then I'm just really happy. We got to come back and finish it and crown a champion. So that was that was something that the you know, that I thought was cool about the spring league as we finished, you know, it, wasn't easy for you to come back and finish and it wasn't, you know, all the players came back and wanted to win a championship and wanted to take part in a championship. And that's cool in itself. What kind of have you, have you or your agent received any calls over the last 24 hours about the next potential step? Maybe someone calling you don't get Into specifics if you can, if you can't do that, But are there calls being made? Yeah, I'm just going to go with, you know, everything is, is going, going well right now. So you know, once again, I'm just really grateful and you know, whatever, whatever God's plan is for me, I completely trust in it. And you know, it's gotten me to this point right now and just to be a part of the spring league and, you know, the, the five, the four games that we got to play. So, you know, I, I, don't like to look too far ahead. I'm just really happy with how it went and you know, I couldn't ask for any more. Yeah, Sure, sure. Your phone and social media, and everything's been blown up and you know, we are going crazy and everyone, and talk with your players. It's just an final, like big takeaways from, from the spring league. I mean, what was it all, obviously it was worth it, right? You guys came out with the w I had a stellar year. I mean, what would you say to people, you know, if they're looking to do another spring league in the spring, you know, fans and stuff, wanting to watch this, what would you say kind of big takeaways from the spring Lake this year? It was an awesome experience from, you know, just getting to play football again. I think you look at any big league or any big sport, I'm sorry, you know, basketball, baseball, soccer, just everything all over the world has been affected by COVID-19. And so for the spring league, to be able to pull this thing off and to give guys that aren't in the NFL right now an opportunity to play football and to play football at extremely high level, and to be able to practice and learn from great NFL coaches. That's just a great experience. So I'm, I'm really just grateful for the opportunity. I think the league did a great job of giving us that opportunity. So I mean, I, like I say, guys, I'm just thankful and yeah, I'm looking forward to, what's going to happen next. We're looking forward to the next step for you. We'll we'll definitely keep an eye out. Thank you so much for the time. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. And your family came down right to Orlando to be with you and spending time with them. So I so appreciate you taking the time to come on to the expo market. Of course, I like that. I like all this stuff in the background. So you guys got all the memorabilia style. That's pretty cool. I'm redoing my office right now, so it's, it's kind of under construction a little bit. So the next kind of give me your you gotta get me a sweatshirt sizes. Okay. I'll get you a General's championship hoodie. Okay, man. I'm a fat boy. So it's an XL for me. It's all good, man. You could've just told me you got some swollen arms out. I got you there, Brian. You're you're a true champ. I really appreciate it. Thank you so much for taking the time. Hey, no problem guys. Thanks, man. We'll be rooting for you going forward. Good luck, man. Yeah. I want to thank Brian Scott for joining us right here on the XFL Mark cast. Good work read. Getting that interview. His phone has been blowing up was agent has been, you know, he's been getting some interview requests, so gracious to spend about 15 minutes with us chatting about his experience and keeping it close to the vest about his next step. We'll be definitely watching where Brian Scott goes after that more TSL news. Now Just a couple of, just a couple of notes here. There was a couple of signings, you know, we, we keep track of the XFL signings some TSL stuff. Our man you know, I like this guy bug Howard. He w he got signed to the practice squad of the Jaguars. I love this Twitter is that bug man. So bug Howard is getting signed to the Jaguars. And then, and then another signing. We had the aviators running back, Devon Smith. He was signing with the BC lions. So we got a little light TSL go into the NFL, and then we got some TSL going into the CFL. And I know that we, we had talked last week on the podcast. I think I was going with the Winnipeg. No. Who did I decide to go with him this year? That was a good question. I think I went with Montreal Winnipeg because that's where Chris Jericho's from, right? That's right. Yeah, I went, Oh, I thought you were gonna go with Calgary Stampeders too. San Peters. Yeah. So anyway, but yeah, just, just some good signing, Sarah, you know, I, and obviously Brian, Scott too. I think a lot of these guys are going to be getting calls now, you know, coming out of this, you know, lots of tape on all these guys, that was the whole thing. They all came back for the championship game and the, yeah, it was, it was really great. It, it was a fun game. I'll be curious to hear Josh's thoughts, but yeah, I really slow first half, but then it really did pick up and we got some good action then in the second half. So that was All right with that being said, we're going to take another break right now, coming out of the break. We're going to talk to Josh Davis Davis, I'm sorry. I had a little bit of a brain fart there. Josh, Dave is going to come back after the break and discuss the TSL championship game. And then we're gonna throw some some curve balls here and it's going to be pretty interesting to see how he handles them. Yeah. And I want to hear what he Thinks about all for electing too. Cause he's been following that. So I want to hear what Josh said. So we'll, we'll check in with him about TSL the all over Lux suit, and then we'll throw the Philadelphia Eagles curve ball at him. So stay tuned for that coming up, coming right up after the break. Josh Davis. How's it going pretty well pretty well. How about you guys? Not, not too bad. What do you, what, what Jersey are you wearing there today? I it's it's the Las Vegas Raiders. Darren wallet. Okay. Tonight. I mean, well yesterday, whatever, when this all comes out before we before we started doing your thing, I was going to make one note, one of our friends, a fan, Zach, just message us. We didn't talk about this on our, on our normal portion of the podcast, we kind of jumped around, but Taylor Rosaleen, it looks like is going to play tomorrow. Yeah. Tomorrow, you know, salary day for the Broncos. So I just wanted to make sure we mentioned that cause we kinda, it was questionable, but now it does seem like if that's going to happen, any thoughts from you about Rosaleen they'll get into play. I know you're right. Big fan man. It's about time. It's, it's been you know, when I don't want to act like I'm throwing shade on anybody, but we just saw a team earlier this year sign a guy that's never kicked the field goal in a game. And when you've got guys like Bruce Seleno and rasa and McGuinness, these guys that have done it this calendar year that are sitting on a, at home, on a couch, you know? So every time you see a guy like like Rosolino finally get a chance to get out there on the field and show what he can do and you know, show how, how invaluable the XFL was and is you know, it's, it's a good thing. I love it. But the Broncos were probably gonna get smashed killed. Oh, I mean, you didn't say anything about that, so it, Hey, here's a good thing. If they get across the 50, he should have plenty of shots to get some field goes in. Yeah. It could be a good, yeah. We tied their back STOs to you know, scoring a lot for the jets, with the, you know, malware, you know, you can't get it to the touchdown, but if we get it close enough for them to get the field goals well, thanks for coming on. I just, we just kind of wanted to get your take on spring league. We ended up having Brian. Scott just came on a little bit ago. I know you're a fan of his too. And so what did you think of the game, you know, you watched it, what, what were your big, big picture thoughts? Well, it showed that they had taken a few weeks off. Right? Cause it started real slow. Like you saw that they both teams had had problems with getting into a rhythm and understand why the aviators did, you know, Boeing, wasn't their regular guy that was you know, McLeod, but you know, he was out with injuries. So Bowen came in and got the, got the run. So good to see him play a, it was great to see Izzy at the end of the game. And I wish he had more of a shot to to, to, to get at a, you know, to, to get some playing time, but it's a championship trying to win the game. So you know, they went with their starter, but yeah, it took some time for them to get rolling, but man, once they did, you know, it was it was, it was a lot of fun to see you know, the, the, the general stent. And I'll tell you, you know, just being a little selfish here with the, you know I pick the conquerors to win and you know, they, they didn't, the team didn't actually make it, but there were several players from the conquerors and the championship game and, and some of them were playing for for the generals, Roy see the running or the, the, the, the tight end. And then you got some, I got Matt mingle with that monster 55 yard, or they're so good on them. Yeah. He missed the line or missed a couple. Right. And then he ended up he, he broke his own record for the longest field goal in spring Lake history. Right. Yeah. He missed an extra point, but he gave that the field goes in. So, yeah. So yeah, that was, that was real good. So good. Proud for him. And then, you know, also they had a Dimitrio assessment is assessment methods the tied in big guy there and then the aviators rated the conquerors backfield and got both Jordan Selema and solo, all the tasers, you my guy Sola got him in there and he got in the end zone late. So that was good to see for him too. So, but yeah definitely both teams had a set, had had a minute to, to, you know, to get rolling. And you could tell, like I said, that they had taken four or five weeks off you know, and just sat a couple of days to prepare, but once they got rolling, man, it was real good. Scott was just as impressive as he ever was. So, you know, good job. You talked about Brian, Scott. What do you, what do you see for him next potentially in terms of pro football career outlook? Well, you know, considering we're going to have another season of the NFL, he could be in a camp next summer. I'm hoping. So anyway given the timing of everything depending on if he signs a futures contract, which is a little different this year than it has been in the past with the NFL guys actually will start. If they sign a a futures contract with an NFL team, they can start getting paid immediately. They don't have to wait for the season to start. So, you know, it's that's a, that's a new wrinkle on everything. So, you know, hopefully that'll be something that we see from him. He should be in a camp, I would imagine next next summer and hopefully catching on with the team. But if not Brian, Scott would be one of those guys that I would watch for being in the XFL in 2022, Maybe possible in the CFL too, since they are coming back. Yeah, they are, you will get a season out of them too, before the XFL comes back. I'm not sure what, you know, what exactly he's going to do. He may try to stay down here. You know, it's a something that you know, we'll find out here shortly cause free agency guys can sign now, but free agency officially opens in a Canadian football league on February the 11th, I believe. They can actually start talking to free agents on the seventh, but we'll know something shortly about what his plans are. You know, but we'll see more of him if nothing else, if he doesn't go to the CFL, there is another session before the NFL or the spring league going on in the spring. So you know, we'll see him somewhere, Brian Scott will be out there on a field you know, here, here shortly, whether it's a Canadian league, whether it's another spring league or it's a in the NFL, in a camp next summer. Yeah, This is interesting. I mean, I was trying to explain it to Dorothy too, you know, they, they did the whole, you know, generals versus aviators, but like you said, it was kind of a hodgepodge, you know, they brought in a lot of the, you know, it was kind of like who can play, you know, super bond that McLeod Bethel Thompson didn't make it, you know, that really hamstrung the aviators from the beginning. But yeah, basically it was just, let's get these guys one more game on, you know, prime time on Fs one. I mean, do you think it was worth it from a, I mean, I, I kept sitting there thinking I'm like, okay, I'm glad that we can watch this, but do they need the tape at this point? I mean, even the announcers were saying like, well, people kind of know what all these players can do already. I mean, was it, was it worth it to do all this work to get one more game? I would say from a player standpoint, absolutely. You know, it's some guys, you know, like you said you know, it was kind of a hodgepodge, well, the conquer has only got two games on TV. You know, they got the last game or excuse me, three on TV. They two or three games, two on TV, they were supposed to play in week four. And because they played the Jaspers, they, that game got canceled, but you know, so, yeah. But you know, they you know, those guys were shorted a little bit, so, you know, to get so low and it gets to Lima and Royce and Matt out there again, and, and Dimitrios to get those guys out there to get a little bit more film. You know, it's yeah, it's, it's a real good thing. And even, even with players like Brian, Scott, who, you know, had had all that film already, it's, it's good to show that you can continuously do it, you know, and you can, you can always like had, they only had a couple of games, guys, coaches could have been like, you know what, he was good for this, but Kenny keep going. And, you know, now they have this extra film where they showed that, you know, basically a month without being on a field in an official manner you know, he could still come out and play at a high level. So I think from a player standpoint, absolutely. Getting that extra film is important. What do you think the next step is? You know, we're talking about having them having another spring league session next year, we know what happened with this year's shutdown with the pandemic. What do you think they need to change and make better to make sure it doesn't happen again, this session for spring, everyone that I've talked to including Brian Woods has set a big issue with the COVID this time was being where they were, they were in downtown San Antonio. And if they're in a more, I don't want to say secluded location, but if they're in a place that doesn't have as much going on around it, like downtown San Antonio does, then they may not have to worry about guys leaving all the time and coming back you know, trying to go out and see the sites. I mean, you know, these are young guys, so, you know, they want to get out there and do things. And so if there's not as much to do, then you don't have guys being able to do that. Ideally, what everybody has said is they would like to have different teams set up in different places. Not everybody in one hotel. You said that works a whole lot better for, for a bubble situation than anything else, but I'll tell you the consensus among the players and the coaches that I have talked to the main thing that needs to be changed that will help with COVID. And you may not think about this, but is the food well, that was what what's his name said? Yeah, they they had three meals that were served and they had certain times that they were served. And if you had a dinner was served at five o'clock, if you had a practice at six, that was your last meal, regardless, five o'clock is your last meal that they provide. And so you had guys that had practices that would either come back to a cold dinner or come back too late to eat at all. And then you had those late night games and they, that schedule didn't change. You know, I had guys tell me, even if they just offered a snack at around nine or 10, you know, that would have kept guys from going out, trying to get more food. And it would be a whole lot, a whole lot better. And guys would have been, you know, not been so drawn to leave, to try to get something to eat. So, you know, those two things, and that's something that that Brian has talked to me about he's he said, jokingly, he said, you might see me drop a hotel in the middle of a desert. So there are, or a field in the middle of a desert and try to have the spring league somewhere out there, you know, where these guys can't get around people who who might be infected. So, you know, that's something that they may be looking at is is a a way that's not, you know, a place that's not as busy as downtown San Antonio. Well, especially just where it's, I mean, Paul and I've gone there for WrestleMania era for Royal rumble and stuff. I mean, it's right. Alamo dome with all that in the hood, you know, we stayed at the hotel where they're at. I mean, it's right there on the Riverwalk. I mean, it's really hard to say like, well, we're, you know, we're going to, I understand we're in the bubble, but, you know, yeah. If you were, if you were somewhere that maybe was a little more rural, it would be a lot easier to say, Hey, we're not going to go out and get food and do stuff like that. So, yeah. Yep. It's just, you've got to figure out a place that has a facility but also has a housing center. You know, you may end up having to try to find a, a, a college that's not using a dorm or something like that. Like they do for camps for for the NFL. You know, you may have to find a situation like that where you might be able to do something. I don't know, you know, you'll, you'll have to find a field or a facility that you can get at a, at, I don't want to say cheap, but, you know, at an affordable cost and then also have a have a hotel or some type of housing close by and was something that can cater at, you know, decent food at a good price that you can make sure these guys are fed well, because you've got to have a permanent replenish. If these guys are out there practicing or, or plan, and they've just lost a whole bunch of nutrition, and they've got to re they got to replace that. And if you come in off of practice field or a game field, and there's no dinner, you know, that's, that's not good. That's not good for an athlete. We're all, it was a, you know, successful, I would say as much. So, I mean, obviously the shutdown stock, but I mean, you know, at the end of the day, I do agree with Brian that he does, you know, want to get these guys as much tape and, and opportunities as he can. I mean, it seems like even to do this, I mean, they definitely did not need to do this championship game. They did not need to do all of this and do the relocation, all that. I mean, that's at least where I'm standing with that. I mean, I know there was kind of the Follies before with the testing and all that, but they definitely could have just said, Hey, we're done this time and not do all the work of doing one more game. So, I mean, I at least give them credit for that, but this definitely didn't need to Be done. Right? No, they didn't have to, you know, this wasn't something that's they weren't contract really, you know obligated to do not even with the Fs one or anything like that, you know, they weren't, they didn't have to do this. This was something that they wanted to make sure that they did for the players to get them an extra film. And, you know, it's the same thing that Brian said to me, you know, like the, the, the things that happen are things that they can learn from and get better on. And that was my whole thing. When, you know, when we were talking about any of the issues was that, you know, making sure that, you know, things are learned from, and you know, we talked about the, you know, the, those things, like I said, you know, he was, he said that he might find a field out in the middle of a desert to make sure that this stuff doesn't happen again. You know, so he knows the issues and, you know, he knows what to do to, to that. That was the whole thing with relocation was to make sure that they weren't back in that area where it was so bad there in San Antonio. You know, so that's, you know, kudos to him for for finding a new place and Fs one and everybody coming together, getting the players down there and getting a game on. Cause I know I loved it. Well, the other thing we wanted to touch on, we talked about it earlier in the episode, we wanted to get your take, we read your article on USAV about the Vince McMahon, all of our Lux stuff. We kind of gave our thoughts already. So I do want to just while we're, while we have you on here, give you the opportunity as the author and kind of doing all this stuff. What, what do you think of the latest going on with Vincent Oliver and the cell phone? Well I understand why it's happening. You know, you got to Vince is trying to get a, a cause there for, for them to just say that Oliver breached the contract, but the way the statute reads looks like it's in all livers you know, a favor here, because the way that it reads is that while you do have to give up the past code to your employer, it's not worded in any way for former employer. So no, do they, do they have the right to take his, like they have the, the device, from what I understand, they just don't have the passcode and to do anything, to get the passcode in a legal way. You know, cause there are other ways around it, but in a legal way for them to do it, they would have to do a factory reset and lose all the data that they're trying to get. So you know, it's it's, it's a, it's a crazy thing, but the statute that they're fighting over right now does, does not give any type of rights to a former employer to have the passcode. If he was still employed by, by alpha, it would be a a completely different scenario. But you know, again, you know, it's, it's kind of a, it's kind of a, just a little back and forth between these guys. He didn't want to, Vince didn't want to end up having to pay everything that he owed to to Oliver. So he did what he had to do. And I don't know how strong though, the reasons that he's giving to, to make it seem like he breached the contract are gonna be, but, you know, we'll see they, they had a hearing today. So I will actually when this airs yesterday, so yeah, we do it all the time. So yeah, the 17th is when they had the hearing. So I'll I'll be getting on there and looking to see if they've got any updates for it. So, because originally this was not supposed to be taken care of until January. They, they suppose he had the, until the eighth to produce what luck had until the eighth to produce what his side got as it comes to data from, from the device. So they were, they thought they had plenty of time, but now they're looking because the bankruptcy cases is dying down. It's, it's almost over they're pushing forward for this lawsuit to get it over with. And so they're wanting to make sure that they get everything. So we'll see about what's what happened with the hearing? Do you side with luck? Yes. Okay. I think we all are. And you know, I just, depending on like the, it was a little bit of a little bit of a gray area we're discussing and we're just, we weren't really sure exactly. And you're, you've cleared up where it's like the former employee statute kinda, doesn't kind of makes it to where it just seems like this is frivolous and stuff that's going on where he's just trying to prove that. Yeah. Just cause, but you know, we've already questioned the merits of, of that stance. So it's interesting. One final thing before we let you go, are your Eagles really going to pay Carson Wentz $32 million to sit on the bench? You want a bus? We, we we've been dying to baggy all show about it. We made earlier. Right? Look, I can go wig and do a, I mean, entire weeks of broadcast on my opinions on this whole thing. But you know, it's probably going to be the case for the rest of the year. You know, I mean just like if anybody saw the video of the sinner, Jason, Kelsey talk about, you know, it's always about winning. It's never, it should never be about evaluating young talent, every op you know, it should be all about winning the ballgame. But it looks like that you know, they're, they're gonna, they're going to have Hertz in there and for the rest of the year, at least, you know, just to see what happens now, if he goes out here and lays an egg against Arizona, you know, we'll talk about next week, next week. But he is, Hertz is starting again. And I, and I've got nothing against Hertz. I've got nothing against playing them, but I just, I want the coaching staff to be honest about it, they changed the offense to help Hertz. If they had done that for events, we wouldn't be in this situation. That's a fair point. Well, they said, yeah, Hertz had plenty of time in the pocket. That Wentz definitely didn't have. It seems like he had, he had a lot more protection going on. Well, I mean, they ran a whole lot less play action pass. There were no seven step drops and they moved the pocket with RPOs, same exact offensive scheme that Wentz ran to perfection in 2017. Interesting to say the least. And you know, I sit there and I go back and I'm like, did you guys really, should you really let Nick Foles go? But yeah, I don't know. I, he was leaving anyway. He's his contract was over. So it was either whether we were going to pay him that 20 meter. If we had kept him that year, we would owed him $20 million to sit on the bench. That's a fair point. Interesting enough interesting stuff. So hopefully they get it squared away in Philadelphia. Like I said earlier, if it weren't for the jets, I think everybody would laughing at you guys right now. So, right. So, Hey, go jets. I mean, don't go jets right there. They're going to get Trevor, it's going to happen. They're going to get Trevor Lawrence happening. Josh Davis. Thank you for your time. We appreciate you always coming on and keeping us up to date on TSL stuff. And we'll be talking to you soon. Yes. A major league football stuff too, coming up. So we'll keep you That's right. That's right. Thanks guys. I appreciate it. Have a good one, man. Thanks. Thanks. Y'all too want to thank Josh Davis for his time. Again, he stops in all a lot. We'd love to hear from him. We love to get his takes on things and you know, sorry to give him a hard time about the Eagle situation, but when you're paying Carson Wentz like $25 million to some of the bench, it's rather embarrassing. You know, we, we do, you know, and I, you know, we do our best here. You know, we're a little bit more like a high level, you know, football staff, right. It's good to have someone like Josh, like in the nitty gritty, he really knows what's going on. I mean, God, you know, God knows I do my bass and we do that. And we definitely try to you know prop ourselves up where we need help with some stuff. And so thanks Josh for coming on and sharing his expertise. Definitely. So forward, we wanted To discuss the fantasy control football. Of course, read it. Read has kind of pushed this as our main focus right now. Now see, spring league is over. We got to wait another 400 days for X-Files. So we're really on this fan controlled football mural needs to stop ducking us and stop being a coward. Is he doing Deb lifts in his garage? Like he posted the other day. He was like shirtless and had these short shorts on. And I just thought Miro, like, you know, you can promote this stuff too. Like, I understand you want to be in shape, but yeah, I'm waiting for the tweets about his wife getting injured by Naya jacks. Yeah. Come on. Let's we we've we've we've had our issues on Twitter about Naya, but I'm interested to see what he starts tweeting about that that's going to be. Yeah. So Russo's wife, Launa Russo is in Rusef. Miro is in AWU Launa is still in WWE and Nigel jacks, who is a cousin of the rock. Right. She is the worst wrestler in the world. We booed her for years and she injures people like all the time. I've way more like really injures. I'm not like, Oh, they got hurt in the ring. Like legitimately it takes them out of action for like six months because she is a reckless worker and she right. You tweeted yesterday the other day that she injured Lama. So that's one of about 15, right? Female wrestlers. She's injured. I'm not even mad about that. I'm mad about that one, but I'm more mad that she injured Mandy for like six weeks. That's the one I'm really mad about. Yeah. It's just crazy anyway, but yeah, so we're set up, maybe a Miro has a little bit on his mind right now, but we were still wanting to get him on the podcast and hopefully out Patrick DCE over a fan control. Can that put the bug in his ear? Let's let's work on that. So I found out Patrick DS grew up in Tucson. I did not know What you're getting into. Is this where we're getting into your ramp before we get Into the minute he went to snubby, you know, high school it's so Beano, but we call it snobby, you know, high school w and I was like, cause I was tweeting about the Arizona Arizona state thing and how I was about the Kevin Salma thing. And, and Patrick, D's like you from Tucson. And I'm like, actually grew up, went to Pablo and Choi. And he's like, yeah, I went to Sabino, blah, blah. We we're talking about that. So yeah, it was interesting to see how Kevin Sumlin kind of brought out that that conversation with Patrick D's a friend of the show. Great guy, great guy to talk to. And speaking to Kevin Sumlin, the only reason he was able to get a job at Arizona after kind of, well, he kind of was terminated texting him. The only reason he ever had success at a and M was from a guy named Johnny football. That's right, Johnny Manzell now Johnny Manzell potentially potentially joining fan controlled football. I want to get in all this. I want to get your take on all of this. I wouldn't fall in there's there's a lot of controversy right now. So we here's the thing. Okay. We got fan controlled football, right. Power to the fans, all this, you know, they did try outs. They had a lot of spring league guys, and I am going to be a little critical today. I think there's a little, you know, obviously we're, we're going to support it, but, but I think that people hopefully listen to us to hear our thoughts and opinions, to the whole idea of this. And then I want to get your take, you know, it's fan controlled football. We're getting these guys, you know, trying to get it to the NFL. We're trying to get, you know, they want some tape. I know it's not the same football thing. It's kind of a reading the ball and we're doing, you know, fantasy switching the players every week. But so you got Bob Manary, I don't even know who this guy is. He's a celebrity, right? He's a, he's like a comedian. Yeah. He, he all, I see. I mean, he, he sells a lot of shirts and stuff. He's got a ton of Instagram followers. He's like an influencer. And so he apparently is friends with Johnny Manzell famously, you know, flamed out and was in the, a, all this stuff. So he beat Johnny Manzell and like a poker game, like a year ago. And so now, because of that, he like, O's, I'm getting all this, you know, hand from everybody, but he is getting him signed up to come on. Paul's falling asleep to come in the fan controlled football. No, no falling asleep. I'm looking at his Twitter account. He's got this interesting, interesting video about these, a handful it's dude, this could put me in a trance as it has. He's got this hand bowling thing, this world bowls and bowling. Bob. Yeah. This is insane. I'm watching this and this guy that anyway, So here's the deal. So what, what do you think about this? And then I want to get into the Ricky Williams, all that stuff too. What do you think about Johnny Manzell supposedly, I mean, this is Patrick DS is like retweeting, all this. I mean, this is, you know, from as much from the horses mouth as can be, I don't think fan control football needs Johnny Manzell at all. I do. I do. Everybody they've associated with has been off the field, Marshawn Lynch off the field owner of a team, Richard Sherman off the field owner of the team, Miro, Quavo all off the field owners of the team. They need some PE they need some stars on the field right now. And whether you like it, or whether you agree with it or not, Johnny Manziel still has a marketable name on the field is still relatively young. I understand he had issues. I won't even get, get into what happened at Texas a and M cause I've, I've, I've been told a lot of stories that are, are very inflammatory. That being said, Johnny, Manzell still has a name and people like watching train wrecks. And they also like watching redemptions. So maybe that's, that's a marketing idea that they're gonna put Johnny on the field and either he is going to have another train wreck session, or it's going to be a redemption story for gentleman's out. Maybe that's maybe that's a play. And I think, I think that that just adds a little bit more intrigue to the fan controlled football. I like it's got all these bells and whistles that make it very attractive to the two gamers, but for people that are into sports, people that are truly into sports, they're going to watch because Johnny, they're going to watch to see what happens with Johnny. They are. Oh, well, that's great. I mean, cause we didn't talk about a lot of this beforehand. I mean, I think that's great that we have a difference of opinions on this because I just don't think they need it. I don't think you need, I think, I think you are fine finding these new players. It just, to me, it feels like it's another gimmick to me, it feels like it's like one gimmick too far. Okay. We're going to do the arena thing. We're going to do all this stuff. I get all of that. It just seems like it's one too far. Now that we have these like influencers, so go, Hey, I'd be joining meds all the poker game. Like, Hey, come on and sign. You know, it, just to me, you have some of these team owners that don't even really know all the, all the rules. It seems like when they, the way that they're tweeting on and doing stuff on Instagram. So I just, are you in it for the publicity or are you in it for the football? And that's kinda my question where I, I do see some of this, like Bob Bob stuff, and the zappers are kind of the most, you know, cause you have the four teams, you know, it seems like a lot of 'em are really football focused. The beast really haven't had a lot of like Marshawn and Richard Sherman, obviously zero Miro support right now. Clearly, you know, Greg Miller has been doing stuff with the wild ACEs and then the glacier boys are tweeting the lot, but the zappers have really kind of like taken over like the supernova. I'm just trying to get like a tension. And I don't know if it's like football, it just seems like it's Hey, this is something I can promote. Is it like, you're saying like, it's basically something like everyone else has taken the limelight right now. We need something big to make a splash, to get some of the light on us. Is that what you're basically getting? Yeah. It just seems to me. Yeah. It seems like, Hey, we're just starting. Like, this is a fun thing. We're trying to have fun with this. And I totally get that. And that Johnny Manzell can bring an eyeballs to some of these lesser known players that are going to partake in that. Then that is awesome. But this is not like a Johnny Manzell league. This is supposed to be, I thought, and maybe I, maybe my perception was wrong in this from the Getty. But my thought was, you know, we're going to, we're going to get some more football players and not like have these gimmicky like all get, you know, it's like WWE, let's bring them out of the retirement again. Let's bring this guy retirement, like, you know, build new stars and not necessarily rely on that. I don't know. That's just my thoughts. I might be. Yeah. If we're discussing like WWE style gimmickry and stuff that works like that, Paul Heyman probably support this, this, this movement, but get one veteran in there to get someone who's like, like how Paul did with ECW back in the day he got Terry funk and Terry funk had a name. He was a former NWA champion. He was that veteran in the locker room that kind of elevated like, Oh wow, I'm going to get some people that aren't going to normally pay attention to ECW to pay attention because I remember old-school NWA stuff. And Terry funk represents that because let's be honest, WCW kind of took a, took a turn where they were being more like WWE, where they were like bringing in all WW guys. So people that wanted that old school NWA field went to gravitate to ECW because they had the Terry funk. And maybe that's the same situation here. I'm just saying like the gimmick might pay off in terms of getting more eyeballs on the product, which I think is a good thing. No matter what. Yeah, I get that. I get that. And if that's part of it, the other funny thing too, is that people are noticing, you know, these are like drafts every week. So there's not really like, okay, we're going to assign this guy or whatever. Like that's not really how this is supposed to work. So maybe, you know, I don't, I just don't think that they are like allowed to do that. Like decide, Hey, we're going to sign Johnny. Manzell like to the zappers. I don't think that's a thing. The other thing, and I see your highlight in here you know, it's not just Johnny Manzell, there has been rumors that former we've talked about on the show a lot back when he was doing the freedom football league, who even knows what's going on with that. But they're talking about bringing in Ricky Williams and then another guy out of retirement to Ryan locker. Yeah. Yeah. So, I mean, so it's not the point is it's not just a guy, like now it just seems like, okay, we're just trying, we're just throwing all this crap against the wall and hoping it sticks. What do you think? Well I mean, so the big three, I don't remember if you remember this basketball thing that was, well, it's still going on, but the big three basically was like a three-on-three either was half court or full court. I don't remember seeing many games of it, but ice cube was involved in stuff like that. They had players in the big three that were like in their forties, early fifties. So I think like those kinds of things are draws in a way, but basketball and football are two different monsters and a 43 year old Ricky Williams, Kenny really go even as like a, he hasn't played football in nine years in the pros. Yeah. I mean, I think very Williams is kind of a joke. I mean, that's where I'm like, okay, now we're like, we've totally lost. He's a former Heisman winner, But it's a joke now where it's like, okay, we have like totally lost the thread. I'm like what this is supposed to be. Right. And I mean, you will say what you can about Ricky Williams, his pro days. He was ahead of the curve in terms of medicinal practices that he undertook. But it reads gesturing for those that are listening to the audio. But at the same time, like Johnny Manziel, I get this, I do not, there's an argument to be made against this, but for Johnny Manzell and that's the Venn diagram where I exist is like, I could, I could believe in Johnny, Manzell coming back. He's young enough to go. But a 43 older Rick Ricky Williams, hasn't played a professional down a football in nine years, Reiner locker who retired probably like six years ago. And these guys really go, or is this just drawing? You know, like I think Marshawn is younger than both of them. If I'm not mistaken Wine Sherman's plan. I mean, Sherman display light, you know? So it just, it's weird. I just don't, I don't like any of it and I can be the minority and I definitely would understand where Patrick and then would say like, you know, we feel like we need to do this to the viewership and you get, I mean, I absolutely like who am I? You know, I'm not the one that's invested millions of dollars in all of this, but as someone that thought, Hey, we're going to get, like, I would rather see Brian Scott in fan controlled football than a lot of these big names, you know? I mean, but I do get what you're saying. Cause I'm kinda like, well, maybe I would like to see a lot of the XFL guys get chances, you know where to begin, where to begin with your boy, Brandon silvers. I'd like to see him get a shot And Nick, whatever you want to call him this month. That's the guy I'd like to see get a chance in the FCF. Speaking of former NFL players, do you know what this is at all? I don't know who this guy is, this former actor. And so what kind of the deal with this? Yeah, so I tell you this on here Trey, Dante Hill, he's a former XFL guy. He signed it basically like the finger total. Now they're going to be promoting a lot of these like Instagram era, like Twitter videos where they're signing their contracts. So they're trying to make it be a little bit more like, you know, it's a thing where, where, like we literally had the Google spring league championship game score for 10 minutes. Like they're trying to make us feel a little bit more like, Hey, let's publicize some of the stuff separate doing, but, but they're rolling out. They're signing a lot of guys right now is the point. A lot of these guys tried out. They had some combines and stuff over in Atlanta. And so they're trying that out one last note. Yeah. About this major league football, they're just, they haven't released details yet, but they're, they, they just give a timeline for like the timetable that they're going to work on. Like April, may, June and then championship in July. And I know you're down on the idea of summer football and that's also when a lot of training camps. All right. So what do you think about, I'm not downloads idea of summer, like football amount down in the idea that they've been trying this for four years and nothing's ever come of it. That's what I'm down on the idea. Well, I mean, I think we're going to, we're going to be chatting it. I know XFL news hub and them and Josh, Josh is friends with he's he contacts with, with the guy that's owned them that and is working on all that. But this supposedly they're going to have a $30 million budget to work with. I don't, I don't believe that, but that we're, we're here for it. If it's more football, the cover, you know, we're going to need some stuff in April, may, June. So, you know, we talked about all the teams last week, if you want to go back. And we did the rundown of like the Northwest expansion Team, but dental teams, Like the four of the fusion and Oregon crash and all that kind of weird Arkansas or the Virginia Armada you know, but anyway, so we'll be covering that, but that was just update that they're keeping details close to the chest right now. But yeah. Moving on though speaking of we, we we've, we've talked about some idiocy in the, in, in the Mark has this week, we've kind of gone off on some tangents here. We forgive, forgive us for anger at times. How angry do you think the Florida coach is at his player for throwing the LSU guys shoe, which caused an unsportsmanlike conduct Modela shoe closer, 15 closer they're kicking game, winning field goal. And how many, how mad do you think that guy is? I was going to, I don't want to knock my microphone ever, but I was going to pull off my slipper. I wasn't going to channel my mic Myers, honestly, man, who throws a shoe? That was crazy, that broke like right after. Right. Wasn't that Saturday after when we record it and yeah, picked up the guy shoot through it. And they, the rep was like for intentionally tossing the shoe 20 yards down the fields I did, we need the spot. Did we need the spot of how far the, the shoe flew? I, that was so weird. He was like we measured it with our chains and it went 20 yards down the field. So we're going to go ahead. And you know, Dan Mullen, who is a, a member of the urban Meyer coaching tree has got to be incensed. And I we've interviewed, I've interviewed urban Meyer for a TV show. I did in salt Lake when he was at the university of Utah, if this has happened in urban Meyer team, urban Meyer, where to kick that kid off the team immediately for this kind of stuff. And I'm, I'm sure Dan Mullen is, is mulling his options about what to do about this. Cause this was just when I saw this happen, I'm like what a bonehead? You gave a what? You're a top 10 team in the NCAA. You're playing for a chance to go play for a national championship in the playoffs and you, Before we get to the challenger Cinco stuff just cause I was talking about Mike Myers with the Austin power store and the shoe. I didn't put this in the Google doc, but this was the funniest segment I've ever seen a good morning football this week. I watched that like in the mornings now when I run and they did, and maybe you already know about this and maybe you don't. So the green Bay Packers, right? Aaron Rogers, you know future, you know, first round hall of Famer. I mean in every world in the history. So this team is obsessed with the Austin Powers movie, gold member. Do you know, have you heard about any of this at all? So this is like a real thing and they did this whole thing. So whenever the green Bay Packers score now, and I'm going to watch this week where they're playing Teddy Bridgewater, I'm sure they're going to be scoring a lot on the Panthers with Aaron Rogers scores, eat, throws his head back to all the players and they go, I love golf and they quote Austin Bowers and they like, they did this whole segment on and you see Aaron Rogers, how much is Aaron Rogers making a year, like $20 million a year. And you see him sitting there going, I love golf and it's, I mean, it's the whole theme and they don't call it the red zone. They call it the gold zone. Like they are like, their offensive coordinator is like, they're marketing out, like all over this, but they're the world's biggest Austin Powers Goldmember fans. And I just think it's the funniest thing. Did you really say, did you really say that they're going to smash the Panther this weekend? Yeah. Wow. Wow. Wow, bro. You should be a little bit more respectful of the Panther since we, you know, we do have Shana quick coming on here and she's a friend of the show. I, I, this is that's going to be a blowout. I mean the Packers and the Panthers, but I just it's funniest thing. If you watch it, I was toppled over laughing. Cause you know, it's one thing to talk about it. And then when they play the sound clip and you see Aaron Rogers literally mouthy. Now I love gold to gold member is pretty bunny. So speaking of things that are funny, things that are funny friend of the show, Chad Ochocinco, breakfast of champions, deviled eggs and pop tarts, Man, keep these links on here. Cause I'll put these photos up at the end. I'll remember yeah, whether it's not McDonald's it's pop tarts, whether we got going on here. What do you think about that? I hate deviled eggs. I think they're important. Horrible. They're the worst. And I, you know, like I can't remember the last time I actually, the last time I had deviled egg was probably when I went to brunch to impress a girl that I wanted to date further. You couldn't pay me the devil base. They looked just still the looks and the texture at, Oh, they're the worst deviled eggs are literally one of the worst things like I'll eat them scrambled. I'll eat them in an omelet. You won't catch me eating a deviled egg at all at all. And so Chad is the champion delicious guess. And the last thing somebody they were talking about, the ice Bob and I, I let that drip, right? The drip, The drip $15 for set Casio watch. Yeah, I see. That's how he keeps his millions. Right. It's weird though. Cause like he says, he's like, this is how, you know, I do things cheap so I can keep my millions. But then he like, doesn't he tip outrageous at restaurants sometimes it's like, yeah, Sound like Bible verses or something like he'll tip out. Like, But sometimes he does like a thousand dollar tip for like a certain He'll tip out like, you know, $1,472 or something. That's like a Bible verse or something. Interesting, dude. I think the guy's entertaining as hell and he's a friend of the podcast. So we'll we'll we'll give you probably your, another weekly Chad Johnson update next week on the Christmas show. It's going to be the Christmas show next week. So maybe for Chris, maybe for Christmas, here's what you can get for me. Only two pages on that. Google doc. Well, I'm sorry. She'll run down. I bet we have Page today. I had it single space. I had a hyperlink. I intentionally formatted that all single space. The whole way down. Would you shrink the font size to trick me you jerk? I did, but anyway. Yeah. Well I hope I hope, You know, it might be a, it might be an interesting episode next week. I don't know how much XFL news we're going to get the week of Christmas, but we will be here and Maybe we'll have another surprise guests come on and discuss who knows? Fan controlled football. Maybe murals stop ducking us. Maybe Mira will. Yeah, that can be as Christmas gift to us is to stop ducking us, stop being a coward Miro. Come on the show. Just discuss your involvement with fan control. We don't have to talk about anything else. We're gonna talk about how Naya hurts your wife. We're not talking about anything else, but fan controlled football, just come on. I'll tell you 2020 has been rough and that would definitely be a boon, a boon to my life to have a, to have a mural come on the podcast. That would be, it would be Miro day every day That we w we would change. I'll change the name. It would be the XFL Miro cast for one week. If Miro comes on, He'll why don't you tweet that out on your verified today and we'll work on. So with that being said, we want to thank you all for joining us. Want thank Brian, Scott and Josh Davis for joining us as well to discuss everything spring league and other, other little items here and there. And of course we'll be back next week. XFL show.com/review is the place to go to review our show. Please leave us five stars and also subscribe that helps. That helps big time. And of course coming up soon, you'll be able to get your March again at XFL show.com/merch. Thank you for listening. See you next week, Mary, early Christmas. You filthy animals cause this'll be after Christmas, right? No. Oh my gosh. Christmas on what day is Christmas on Friday? Christmas. That's what I kept telling you. Are you not listening to me? I thought it'd be like the day after. Okay. Well, there you go. Where Editing this out because I want everyone to hear that you lost track of your day. So This is Thursday. Christmas Is Friday and we'll have a Christmas episode for you. And that's why I was like, maybe we'll get a special Christmas gift episode. You know, like a guest for Christmas. Do you have like a hat? Can we wear hats? You want to wear a hat? Like a Santa hat or a Christmas ugly sweater? I have like, I want to say have like a Santa hat somewhere. Well maybe, maybe I can find an ugly sweater in time. Let's do ugly sweaters. Okay. So we'll do ugly sweaters next week. It's kind of getting cooler in LA now. So thank heavens for that. And we'll do ugly sweaters next week for Christmas. So I don't want people to not listen to the audio version, but you know, maybe you might want to watch the video version this time to see what kind of ridiculous elders sweaters we come up with and that's all going to happen next week. So thanks for listening this week. We appreciate you and we'll see you next week on Christmas.

XFL Markcast - Episode 18 Hey XFL Get Your Merch Right! (ft. Patrick Dees)

I don't know how you'd have two pages. We have 30 minute interview coming up with Patrick D's. I don't know how you do. You have two pages on the Google doc. It should only be one with a 30 minute interview with awesome. With Patrick Dees. We should only have one page on the Google doc read, please. There's a lot of stuff today. I did consolidate can I consolidate it down a lot of the signings, but there's a lot of stuff today. You know, I see all these other podcasts out there and they got like, you know, 40 minutes and I see we got a lot of stuff. Yeah. Patrick Dees. I wanted to make sure we plugged him at the top. Co-Founder and chief gaming officer, a fan controlled football. I'm so excited that he came on. Did you see that? Well, wishes, like the good thoughts he has about us after the interview? Yes. And he mentioned my NBA jam arcade in a, in a gift form. Cause that's, that's kind of like the prize thing in my office and it's going to look a little bit different in the next coming weeks, but for now the NBA jam cabinet in his behind, and he liked it a lot. And we're going to talk about that. We're gonna talk about a lot of things with Patrick coming up here in a little bit also you see the shirt I have on Seattle playing for their third MLS cup tomorrow, Saturday. So if you're going to soccer MLS is where it's at right now because like American soccer is getting bigger and bigger and bigger. I mean the U S men's national team won six to nothing over El Salvador over the last week. So I'm telling you we're on the up, we're on the up and up, but there's only one place to go. But up when you miss the world cup, thanks to crappy players like Josie out the door and Michael Bradley, this is me like, Cause I was trying to, I'm big, you know, I'm big in the football now and I'm watching my Scott van pelt. Right? I'm sure this guy has been on the air for 50 years. Right. But I always do that a big, big Dorothy. And I sit down and watch this. And it was with every night, it was that the, it was the timbers. It was when they got knocked out or whatever. And it was the longest MLS game, like in the history of the world that went to like a 15 shot shoot out. I'm like, can we just end this so I can watch SVP? That's all I want You, you want to know a funny story about SEP? Sure. She would play the voicemail that SPV SPV, SVP left for someone. It's great. We could play it if you want to, but otherwise we could get on, Is this related to us in any way? No, but it's hilarious. Okay. You can play it. That's fine. Scott van pelt fan of the show, right? Yeah, I think so. Maybe. I don't know what will Yeah, We cut that whole segment out. That wasn't very good, but Paul doesn't want to restart. So we're going Well, I know I don't, I don't like the restart. That's this before we've done this before and I've I haven't, I haven't moved a fan. So we're moving on. We're moving that Scott van pelt, big fan of the show and that we're moving. We'd like to have him as a big fan of the show, but probably not a big fan of show. No. Anyway, we got a jam packed show today. I got a lot of XFL staff. We got some spring league staff, a lot of signings. I tried to boil down a lot of stuff, but yeah, it should be good. I want to do a couple of reviews before we get started. This one you saw online and I'm sure killed you for the alternate football scouting report. Excellent show with excellent host, very well-spoken and always prepared with quality content, impeccable GIF response game on Twitter. You guys definitely got the chatter about fangirl football started. It was slightly on my radar, but I looked into it deeper. The more I saw you guys talking about, and now I'm all in. Thank you. Alternate football scouting report on Twitter, XFL show.com/review. If you're a fan of this, I'm just talking to for Paul. I'm not going to let him interrupt my impeccable gift game, but expo show that That's fake news. Yeah, but I, Paul makes fun of my guests all the time. I only got about, Oh, we got about three or four I use, but I appreciate the review. Alternate football scouting report, XFL show.com/review. If you're a fan of a XFL TSL, we got fan controlled. We're talking major league football coming up a lot of stuff. So please XFL show.com/review. If you're a, if you're a Yeah. Talk about your impeccable give game is crap, but let's talk about the, So one other shout out just, I got a really nice message on Facebook from a friend a fan Zach Zach heard of us because we're now kind of with XFL news hub, you know, Mark is you know, talking with us about us on his show. And Zach just left me a good note. He said, he's been listening to every week since actual new sub started advertising. It's hard to pick the best one between the two. But if you want to get accurate Bible XFL news followed up by true genuine opinions on the subject, then that's the way to go. So I just Zack, I know he listens, but I really appreciate that. It's just nice to like, you know, wake up to like nice messages like that and like people supporting the show. So I really do appreciate that. We're doing, God's work out here at XFL. I'm killing Paul right now, but yeah, we just appreciate it. I mean, we do this for the love right now. I mean, there's certainly no money in this right now. So just God bless you, sack. And all of a sudden football scattering, I really, sometimes I just really need that. And I think I broke ball already. We're like six minutes into the show, but we got it. I'm crying. Two bullets. Okay, Good. We're really doing the Lord's work, but we're talking about XFL stuff. Let's first off. I've totally broken Paul now. So one not positive note. I will say we all know your boy read or his XFL black Friday hat. Got it. First refer to yourself in third person. You Know what? I got my, if you're watching the YouTube XFL show that com slash YouTube, I got my XFL hat here. I'm going to say this, Paul, you know, I know a thing about hats, this hat XFL. I bought it just because it was like limited edition. I'm sure that's crap, but that's fine. This is the worst hat I've ever seen. I know Mark Perry, we can review was trying to talk about, Oh, you know the stitching. Yeah, it's got good. It's got to get 3d stitching. But like, look at this. It's like a Velcro thing. Facts, like step backs irritate me, but Velcros are even worse. This is, I mean, rock and Danny, like if this is the merge we're putting out, this is your first shot. It XFL like, you know, brand new everything else they're selling. But they, you know, they took over and they're doing discounts and stuff. This is the first piece of merchandise we get from the rock. And this is crap. Wow. Wow. Wow, bro. I'm just saying, if you need a merge, is, is there like a title for like merge correspondent, like merge, you know, quality control. That would be me. You would be the merchant. I would pay the merge. Mark, put my hat. But seriously, this thing is terrible. Mark really tried to do, he did the unboxing on, on the weekend review podcast and he was trying to, well, I don't really know this is, this is terrible. I mean, this is really bad. I'm glad I own that. Never a good idea. Velcro is never a good idea. They do Velcro on the championship belts now on, on the TV now. Yeah, this is terrible. I mean the, the Prince nice, you know, you get the 3d puff, but this is terrible. Just really shoddy work. The rock needs to maybe not spend so much time on tequila and maybe do a little, Hey, you know that tequila got us some nice photos. We got to kill you to calm down on the tequila, right? Yes, sir. Yeah. It's not heavy slandering with the few long podcast I am. Yeah. So we got those notes out of the way. So now let's get into the XFL stuff. You were on this last Friday the June Jones of course, like drop the episode at like seven 30, seven 35, whatever big news All the time. This was crazy. So did you, did you follow any of this? There was a lot of fall, like fall blowback. Like I, I, I followed it then all of a sudden it was undone by something. And then someone said something else like, like this is what, what was the story? Because I heard 16 in the course of eight. Yeah. So Jim Jones was on CBS radio. He was talking and they said, you know, cause they were asking them June Jones go to the roughnecks coach, PJ Walker. They're asking me, what'd you think about PJ with Carolina, all this other stuff. And then he goes, Hey, you know, XFL, like I'm back. They got TV contracts. Like I'm, I'm coming back. Like we're all in. And he said, and to be fair, he said, I'm there. You heard it here first. Like I'm going to be back with the XFL. So of course all of the sites said, Hey, you know, June Jones just, I mean, he's, you know, he said it, I don't know. And this is why I wanted to get your opinion. Like, is he back? And he just spoke too soon? Or was he just like making hype where there was no hype to be had? That's probably the most, the first one is probably the most likely scenarios. Like he was spilling something that he shouldn't have spill someone called him and said, Hey, shut the F up. Yeah. And then he was like, wait, wait, wait. I didn't mean it that way and try to cover, but like your cats you've opened Pandora's box, dude. We know you're coming back. So yeah. So, so he did that, but I will say if nothing else cause you know XFL news hub ran the story, Josh Davis ran it and then they got a lot of flack and Hey, you guys are running rumors and stuff Mark on weekend review this week I go, we might have to add like a third chair to the Mark cast for a week because Mark was the most heated I've ever seen them talking to go. We're like, we're not running rumors. We're running news. That's right from, I love it. I love the passion. I'm glad we're affiliated with them. But yeah, June, I do not going to announce anything before January 1st. Right? Like we're going to get through this financial year. Right. Spoiler alert. You're not going to hire a bunch of people like middle of December. So I think but it certainly sounds like June's been talking to people at XFL and they said, yeah, absolutely. You are not to be telling the story right now, out there on CBS. Interesting. And that's probably, that's probably what happened was like he said something he should've said soon too soon, he got a phone call immediately afterward and then he pulled it back. That's probably what happened. And that's going to be interesting to see if it does it jeopardize his potential future employment with XFL now is that that's cause that's a concern because I like having June Jones. I mean, I think June Jones is a great offensive mind clearly everywhere he's won everywhere. He's been he's put a lot of points on the board. He made Hawaii into, you know, like a, kind of like a mid major powerhouse for a little bit. And then I think, yeah, if I'm not mistaken, he took SMU to their first bowl game in like 30 years after the death penalty. And I won't get into the death penalty stuff. It's basically the reason why it hasn't been used since SMU got hit with the death penalty and NCAA football. So June Jones, a great coach, great mind to have in the league. So hopefully it doesn't hamper his future employment. Yes. And just, you know, I mean Vincent everything you know, not that is small potatoes with the WWE, but I do think that it sounds to me like XFL and you've got rock and Danny and, and rubber and all that. I mean, I just think there's a lot more eyes watching, like with all the coaches and everything are saying. And so yeah, when that came out, I mean, it was like immediate, you know, I barely, we barely had time to even tweet like, Hey, what's going on with this? And he was already, Oh man, Hey, sorry. Totally. So I think that they like liberties lickety split got on him. And that was a yeah. Yeah. So the ownership might have a beef with that coach and you've got to beef with another coach. Jim Zorn apparently shining a dragons. What's up with that? My boy. So I got, what was it? I think, I think van, the man tweeted something about the dragons and he got his hat, you know, everyone's trying to make pretend like these are good hats, but he had takes Zorn on it and like, Oh, I didn't know Zuora was on Twitter. I'm going to go, I'll go give him a follow Zorn on his Twitter bio. It says like, you know, coach of the rednecks and you know, or not the rednecks, the Redskins and you know, all this stuff and, and the, Hey it's the Washington football team. But, but there was no XFL dragons in his Twitter bio. And I saw, I just, I go, Joe What does, what the ad backed you As a coach of a pro football team? You listen to all the other ones, you know, he's got like 16 accolades in his Twitter bio though, XFL dragons. And so van thought that maybe it had to do with him, not getting paid with the payout from the bankruptcy. So we're still, we're still working on it. But I mean, Zorn, he never seemed all into me. I met him. We were at the first dragons like event. I met Zuora. He just didn't ever seem all in. Peggy was there for the paycheck. And that was it. Yeah. I mean, he just seemed so out of touch. I mean, I know some of the coaches were older, but you know, you still got June going on doing CBS radio interviews and doing Twitter stuff. It just seemed like Zoran was out of it. They had given him, I mean, we talked with them cause it was Paul Williams, Michael Payne. And I, we met him. There was like four other people at this bar. We went to the first van was there, like they won the XFL dragons. It just seemed like he had like three notes on a note card that they gave him to like talk about, Hey, you know, when you talk to people, Oh yeah, it's here for the fans. Like we're excited. And it just seemed like he had nothing else to say about it at all. He was here just so he didn't get fined like Marshawn Lynch, basically what you're saying Pretty much. I mean, but I just thought that was kind of funny. I thought it was weird that Zuora didn't have that. And I called them out on it. Cause I call it, I call it legacy. We just talked about the Washington football team. How are you feeling Pittsburgh fans, by the way you guys call yourself six Berg. I call you five with an asterisk because we all know you didn't really win super bowl XL. But Pittsburgh fans kind of sad because they lost to a team with no name. I came home from work that day. I was so excited cause it was, you know, doubleheader, Monday football I thought, Hey, I'm going to get all my stuff done. I had to go film this video for a trampoline company. Like, okay, come home. I go, Hey two o'clock I'm going to turn on the game. It was like the direct TV thing, blacked out half the country. I couldn't, I go, there has to be some amount of money. I can just pay to watch all these games. Right. Why does the NFL make it so difficult? So I paid for a game pack, like a season game pass like two years ago. And I only got two games that weren't on my I'm like, what am I paying for? And they have like some contract with DirecTV where they can't give us. Like, it seems so stupid in this day and age where everyone's cutting cable to not say, okay, if somebody wants to send a ticket, they shouldn't have to go through direct TV together. They should go through the NFL to get it. And if I paid for a game pass, which was, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't much, but at the same time for some people, it would have been like, I should have all the games. I should have all the games. This is, this is, well, I couldn't get it anywhere. Devices over the top devices let's make it happen. When I got my mom, when I got Sue Johnson called me, she goes can't I bust the game. I said, I don't know. And I was weird watching it. We were walking Rosie and I had it on my Google. It was like showing the, you know, the, and I've Oh my God, Washington's in the lead. And Dorothy goes, I bet that really rubbed salt in the wound that you can't find. Yes, it does. It was a great game. Yeah. Washington football teams making some moves with some signings we'll talk about, but yeah, that was a good game. I mean, I watched the highlights. I watch all the highlights, but I couldn't walk. And once again two years ago it was two years ago that XFL team cities were announced. I know it was two years. And then they took another year to name the teams. It felt like you were complaining to me fortnightly about when are we going to get names? When are we going to get names? When are we going to get names? I remember these texts and I was like, read, I don't know. I, I remember cause it leaked about a week early that Seattle was going to get a team name. And I remember I was filming like this Christmas performance and I think it was like us in the group chat. And it was, you know, painting and Williams and the expletives that came out when we found out that Seattle was getting an XFL team. Cause we were, it was like, yes, like we were so pumped about it because you know, we all at the time we all thought, okay, this is going to be a one-off this is going to be a roller coaster. Again. This was before they did all that new, they brought in, you know, I mean luck was there, but before they had all the rules and before it was a real thing and we just thought, man, this is going to be a cluster app. And I am all there for the one season. And now here we are. We're we're hosting an XFL podcast. Well, how do you feel about that? It's interesting to say the least to say the least. It's interesting. The highlight of my week. Do you want to know the highlight of my week? Oh, it was your highlight of the week. So it was listening to your other podcasts. I will house represent. Okay. And when you, and, and we'll got into a genuine debate about the merits of the exit fell and you took the XFL and you go, Oh yeah. If it wasn't for the pandemic, like Vince, totally whatever. And I go, he is all in Paul is all that. Well, it's logic, it's logic. It's not like, like I'm like, you know, it's logic. He w you know, will, was kind of crapping on the, of, he was like, Oh, we're going to fail again. I'm like, they failed a second time because of the pandemic. It had probably not, I don't know if it had anything. They had the infrastructure in place to make it succeed. They really did. And we knew that we knew what they were doing. That was, that was different. And that was special from the first iteration of the XFL. So we knew there was something here to this, and there's an audience clearly listening to XFL news. So there's an audience clearly built in to watch the games. Their viewership was up there. Ratings were up, their attendance was up. Their attendance was great. So it was the pandemic that ruined this for, for XFL fans. It had nothing to do with the fact that XFL, there's not a, there's not more appetite for more football. That's not true at all. So that's why I defended it. But I do want to say that you're a little stuck. You and him bull, not funny. Oh yeah. Yeah. I did it. I did the present. You need to fit. You need, you need to reassess gifts. Aye. I Paul Paul, Sarah Paul's cohost sent me the zoom link and I, I photo bomb there. I didn't run in on that. Like a steel, like with a steel chair from the back running into the ring. God. So Mark has to be sick. Not God. I wouldn't say that. Paul, what is there even the talk about the XFL right now, what we got in our Twitter beef last night with that guy, what is there even the talking about with the XFR I go, I go, man, we got three pages of Google docs, hour and a half every week. There's a lot to talk about the XFL. I don't want to hear about, There is a lot to talk about. I think you inflated a little bit. Yes. I will say that, but there is stuff to talk about. There's always stuff to talk about in this thing. Like, and I, and I tried to explain to grandpa with the weird old P what was going on. Anyway, I tried to explain to him before the nurses at the nursing home took his phone away. I tried to explain to him that we don't just cover the XFL here. We cover the spring league. And we also cover, you know, fan controlled football. Of course, we got Patrick Dees coming up. Great, 30 minute interview that is full of bleeps and full of personality. And Patrick is a good guy. Do you want to take a break, pay some bills, come back and do that. Let's do that right after this. How's it going, sir? I was going guys. What's up, man? Yeah, we got you. You're good. You got the cool background and everything. You're super professional. I dunno. I don't know about that. We've been you know, going through assets that you're building, we've got enough of them. What I usually do is find an embarrassing photo of a coworker and that becomes my background. And so every meeting that one of my, one of the coworkers gets a ridiculous photo. Okay. So if I sent you an embarrassing photo of re photo of Reed right now, okay. Oh, a hundred percent. I definitely could, would be upbeat before, like before the end of the phone call. Yeah. We'll work on that right now. How's it going, man? It's going well. I mean, we're, we're moving at Mach six, but things are going, man. So thank you for for having me on It's so funny. So this morning, this very morning, I'm on a Paul and I are on a group chat with a bunch of XFL risers and stuff. And they're like, Hey, so what's the deal like with this fan control football, like what's going on? I'm like guys, guys like, well, we got you covered like, come listen. But I mean, but it is, it's one of those things. And I mean, I know that obviously you guys have been doing a ton of marketing, you know, across we, everybody in our bubble. I would like to think that we hang hats on, you know, kind of the first in our little, you know, the XFL TSL kind of bubble. One of I'm kind of getting this going, so yeah, I appreciate you coming on and all that, but I thought, man, they're, they're just asking to that, that man, we're, we're, you know, a couple of, couple of weeks ahead of you guys, so yeah, I love it. So so what's going on we're, we're getting close to February. How did all this come about? I mean, you're the co-founder right? I mean, I give us the history of what's going on here. Yes. So this is sometime in, in the making. So or essentially we, we, the four of us, there's four co-founders and Patrick Dees. Co-Founder chief gaming officer. We we bought a team in the IFL and if you guys are familiar with the indoor football league in 2017 with this idea that literally that, you know, fans want this lean forward experience, they want this opportunity to, you know, as opposed to the lean back traditional sports experience, they want that lean forward. They want to engage with our teams. They want to determine the action on the field. I, you know, I finally believe this. I grew up actually learning the rules of football through playing Matt, my old man, amazing father and best dad in the Northern hemisphere, but not a sports guy at all. He's, you know, he's a drama guy. He was a choir nerd in high school. So I, you know, learn the rules of football through playing Madden. And then I would sit with my dad on Sunday and he would pretend to get out like what was happening on the screen. And I would explain that was a four, three defense or whatever it was. So for me, like real-time play calling has always been coupled with this sports experience and we knew fans wanted more. So we bought a team as a proof of concept team in 2017 and turn it over to the fans. Fans chose everything about this team at burst. We let them choose where we played, right? So we went out and kind of prenegotiated leases, like in, in the geographic footprint of the league and fans got to choose where he played. We ended up in salt Lake. He came down to Oklahoma city and salt Lake. We ended up in salt Lake which was good. And then, you know, we flew to salt Lake and we did a press conference in salt Lake and announcing the team. And I looked down the barrel of the camera and I said, Hey, if you name us team and team face, and that's what we're going to be. And by the time I came and sat down, I think it was like 87 votes for Tina, Nick team-based. And I'm like, what have we done fans? Literally we were almost named teammate team face were almost named to the storm and Mormons which would have been an amazing name in salt Lake. The fans ended up calling us that was kind of a last second rally from local sports talk radio. They hadn't ended up calling us a screaming Eagle. So, you know, you fast forward fans chose everything about our team. They chose the, obviously the name, they chose our logo, which I think I'm wearing a screaming Eagle shirt that shows our logo that shows our mascot, our head coaches we live stream in coaches, interviews that shows our cheerleaders and then that entire season they called plays for this team. So and we, you know, our hypothesis was that if you put fans in a position to be successful, they're going to be right. You know, fans now, especially if football sports in general, but specially in football, man, you guys, you guys are proof positive of this. Like there is the fan I collective IQ of fans about the game is higher than it's ever been, right with the advent of Madden and fantasy. Like people know this inside now and they always want access to more. And so we felt like if we opened that up and put fans in a position to be successful, it would, and it worked, man. You know, we had, we finished with the third highest rated offense in the league. We our, our quarterback was a of the year, that year was offensive player of the year. And and you know, it took off as this global sensation, you know, like IFL streams were averaging about a thousand people per game. We were having a hundreds of thousands of people tuning in all over the globe or than a hundred different countries called plays. And so we really knew at that point that we were onto something that, you know, this our, our hypothesis was correct. And so we, that was our proof of concept team. This is the proof of concept league. Ideally we're going to do this with all of sports, but this is kind of our, Hey, let's prove this out with a wider, wider group, a team. So we took our team out of that. And then we thought the whole game originally, I mean, transparently, we were going to license this technology to the other teams in the IFL, right? Like we were this interactive team we're going to rebrand the IFL and call it the interactive football league. But we knew we had a chance to do something truly special. And so what we pulled out, pople our team out of that league and said, Hey, let's, let's reinvent football for the digital age. Like, you're just making it up now. Like what would it look like? Right. And that's kind of the game that we came to, you know, with, with, you know, FCF, right. It's games are one hour, they're running clock. You know, it's fast, it's seven on seven is 1350 yard field, 35 yards wide. So it's fast, it's high scoring you're in and you're out, you know, nobody, I mean, staring, she doesn't, you know, digital natives typically don't want to spend three and a half hours on a football game. You know what I mean? It's that lean forward experience. You're there, you're calling your plays, you're leveling up to you. There's, you know, persistent progression. So you know, as you play you level up and as you level up, the more weight your vote carries. So there's progression for you as a fan seven on seven, all of the, all of the games take place in one place where we're planning in Atlanta, Georgia this year. So allows us to do some really cool things. And we'll, we'll have a venue on a venue available. We'll be coming a little bit later, but we can talk a little bit about where some of the, you know, bleeding edge of technology, things we're able to do in one, you know, television studio type environment. So anyway, that brings us a current, that's kind of how we got here. We prove, prove this team. We're going to prove this league. And then we're gonna go continue to do this. Throughout other, throughout of the sports, You said you did this with your indoor football league. And I want to expand upon that. Where did you, did you come across any technical issues doing that? Or how, how exactly did you do that? Cause we speculated a couple of weeks ago where we're talking about, did they call one play in advance? Like one play gets called downplay gets called while the other team's punting. How did you guys, how did you guys work? The technical glitches out and how are you planning on doing that? I'm coming back. So I can, I swear on this, the show, I want to make sure That we can edit it and believe it out. It's fine. I like, well, there's a, there's a, there's a GQ article where like the first four lines of me saying, talk about technical issues. I was like really great quote to have in GQ. But the I mean, yes, the technical, the, our wifi went out our very first game. We had this like a hundred thousand dollar installation where wifi at our, at our home arena went out the first, like literally the first place. So yes, with any, with any shipping, you know product there, there's going to be challenges. But we, the founders, three of the four of us are, you know, have a technology background. So we come from that, not less traditional sports, but and then, you know, the, the fourth commander's way Austin used he was a former Chicago bear. He was drafted by the jets. But we're like, you know, we're technology guys. And so we went out and built an application that would allow fans to call plays in real time. What that looked like was it's the curated list of place. So again, one of the things I said earlier was, you know, we want to put fans in a position to be successful. You can't, we didn't open up the playbook to say, look, you can punt on first down because like no actual Jim's going to do that. Right. So what we did was we built an algorithm that would surface surface plays to the fans. There are all the, there were all plays that we wanted to run based on down in distance, again, that were surfaced algorithmically. So second and six, you got to chip in for that last season. You got four plays you could choose from what do we want to run on second and six? And that's all been determined by, by the coach. Like that's all game, game planning. He goes through our playbook. He fills it helps, helps game plan, all that, and then it's surface to the band. So, you know, that was important to me because I wanted everybody to feel included. Like it's, when you're looking at routes and stuff, it can be a lot, but you can just enjoy football and maybe not understand that, you know, a diagram play. So like I wanted my mother and she did to call every play for the screaming Eagles. And no, she's not screaming anything up. Right. Like, you know, worst case, it's not the best play, but you know, you're, you're not, you're not hurting your team in any way. You can choose that with competence. So that's what it looked like. Again, it was, you know, again. Yeah. During the between players, it would surface for players at that time. The player would go into the coach and he would be on the sideline. He got an iPad, he would see which one was called. He would call it in the way it's working in, in this iteration. As you kind of level up you're, you're given a couple of different options. So at first you just pick, pass it, run and pass, and then it'll say, and then like, once you've done that for a little bit, and you're leveling up you button into each one of those, so it'll present you four runs and four passes. And see if we get a total of eight plays that you'll be able to choose from kind of in real time in this iteration of the league. And you are awarded what we call fan IQ. I don't know you guys gamers, so play video games. So it gives like, imagine a role playing game where you earn XP it's. So that it's, that you're earning experience. We call it fan IQ. So as you earn fan IQ, you level up, so everybody gets a vote, but not every vote is created equal as you level up your vote carries a lot more weight. So, you know, if you guys have been interacting with ecosystem and con players your vote's going to carry a lot more weight than mine than when I just started. And speaking of Ray Austin, you know, he played in the original XFL right. Back in, back in 2000 and for Chicago. So I mean, it really, you know, for the XFL fans that there, I mean, this really does go kind of full circle back. Right. And he's kind of, is he like the commissioner or what's his, what's his, Yeah. Yeah. I mean co-founder and commissioner. So he is you know, Ray is very passionate me here and talking a lot about the players of this league. Well, you know, it's a little different way than it's a wholly own sports entity. There, there are some type commissioner roles that he'd be playing, but he's really focused on like development of the game itself. But also the players, you hear him, he's like incredibly passionate about, you know, that these guys are more than athletes and we want to build, build this league to give them a platform to do more than just, you know, playing in this league. We are, it's gonna be really interesting. I hope you guys, you guys will be, be watching along, but the players in this league that engage with the fans between games, so streaming on Twitch, you know, engaging on Instagram, doing AMS, those types of things are the guys that are going to get their numbers called more frequently during the game. So it's this virtuous circle, right? Like you, you, you have a good game. Fans watch you, you engage with the fans and the off time, then, then they go, Oh my God, I got to call that guy's number again. And obviously it becomes cyclical. So Ray is wanting to, again, have these guys be engaged with fans, build a platform and, and hopefully leave this league in a better, a better place, whether it be, you know, going on to the NFL or, you know, Ray talks a lot about acting and modeling and, and, and, you know, following those pursuits that might be like outside of football. So There's, there's a there's football knowledge. I mean, you guys are our gamers and tech guys, but then there's also going to be the football backing and that's what I wanted to kind of get it. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, yes, again, our football ops team is incredible. Like, you know, Andy dolets was the former chief operating officer of the 49ers he's president of Memphis Grizzlies, the guys on that side of the house, which, you know, admittedly know way more about the actual X's and O's than I do are, are incredible and have put together like a really talented group from like a coaching perspective and just a football ops perspective. So really excited about the, the folks on that side of the fence, speaking of your talented group, how did you approach all of these people to come in and a potluck? It's an easy pitch. Like if I called them and I said, yo, do you want to own a football team? You're gonna be like, yeah, I'm pretty down. Yeah, like professional sports teams are like beach front property. Right. There's, you know, there's various ones, right. There's houses in Malibu, but like there's still beach front property itself. There's a very limited number of professional sports teams. And so like, we threw up on a whiteboard, like our murderer's row of guys that we wanted to get involved with league, like Mike Tyson, Marshawn Lynch, Richard Sherman, like guys that are big personalities that would engage, you know, with fans, you know, we, when we to take a step back, w we pull geography out of the equation, right. Like, you guys know, like there's such a, this is such a tradition around like, you know, like, you know, I'm a Lakers guy and, you know, like if you live in LA, you're basically a Lakers guy, there's some weird Clippers. He's like, Nope. But there's a, there's a tradition there, right? Like, you know, there is a, and so when we're pulling that out you know, you, you have fans globally, you know, this, this access to this team, we want to kind of big personalities to infuse these teams with their own swagger or their own, you know, their, their own style, if you will do, you know, like, I feel like our model for this was more Cuban for the Mavs. We've got teams of seems like an extension of that guy. And we wanted guys and gals as, as owners that would be able to do that same thing with their team. And so originally we went out and posted a lot of these folks and we started pairing them together. Right. Like, you know, Marshawn and Mike Tyson were easy coupling either both like really eccentric and passionate people, but, you know, also, you know, they're big hitters, right? They're like, you know, they're monsters and it was, they named the 13 was the beast. It was so fitting for them. And then Quavo had Sherman this high flying, like again, just, just seemed to work well, I've got to stop swearing. So you're Just take a quick glance over, I note the time and we're good to go. Don't worry about it though. Yeah. That, but that was the conversation. I think we were we were incredibly lucky to be able to get, to speak to a lot of the folks that we did, but also, you know, we had a lot of folks actually come back to us and say yes, that we ultimately passed on due to the fact that they, you know, it wasn't, we want to guys and gals that were like, just authentically passionate about this, that genuinely get it. And not folks that are like, yeah, cool. I would love to own a football team. So that's kind of, that's where we, you know, how we started putting the, put together this owner's list. What was the thought process behind pairing? You said that the heavy hitters of Marshawn Lynch and Mike Tyson, and then the coward of re Miro are Russo. I really want to know what that pairing went with because this guy is a, is a piece of work We're going to stocking us. We're here, we're here Miro. He's he? He's dodging us. Oh man. That's not the mural. I know. So maybe I'll maybe I'll, I'll send a note along and be like, look, I, I can't imagine that dude wants to be called out as a coward of the podcast that will tell him, tell him that I did buy some of his merchandise in a different organization that he no longer belongs to. He was too busy arguing with people on Twitter. That's where I have to say by that. No, it's a good, it's a good list of groups. Even like the kind of funny guys, I mean, you know, people that have, and this was what I was trying to explain to the XFL guys, did they say, okay, you know, what is this? It's like a gimmick thing. I said, well, no, but, but the people behind this have tons of followings. Right. And the loyal followings, right? Like you have the kind of funny guys and like their logo is basically just Nick's scar Pinos face. Right. Because they said, Hey, we want this to be our logo in the fan. So, you know, they have these armies where they say, Hey, you know, if we want to go for this and if they're supporting this, you know, a fan controlled football, you know, I mean, I do think you're going to get a lot of loyalty that way. Yeah. Like Nick, like Nick needed a bigger head now be on the side of a football helmet. Like it's the last thing we need to do. Yeah. There that was part of what we were doing too, is like, look, we, we wanted to pull folks from, from different parts of culture and, you know, gaming and music and, and sports and like you know, Greg Miller and the kind of funny guys, we're we're a no brainer right there. They call their fan base the best friends. And this is this bastion on the internet of positivity and community and their, whatever they do, they do kind of at Mach six as a group. And so that made sense to bring, you know, that that passion to the, to the league and, and your grades just awesome. Like, I mean, but get, just gets this through. He's a sports fan more than the other guys there, but like you know, he's really excited about just building something with the best friends. And so they were it was w was a fun, you know, fun to see that kind of come together. The online sports world on Twitter specifically, I'm a Yankees fan. So I understand fan bases that are very vitriolic at times. How do you, how do you plan on navigating that potential vitriolic fan base that might come up online? Interesting question. I think clearly like online there'll be tools like from me from a moderation perspective, but you know, I think that we want, I think that's gotta be owner driven. Right? I think like, again, we've got the buy-in from the owners to help shape what the community, their respective communities are going to be. And there's going to be to your point, like, you know, where there's passion a lot of times there's, that's misdirected and, and, and then the people become vitriolic, but we're gonna do our best to not foster that here. I think, like we were fans of trash talk. I mean, clearly like genuinely you'll see that ramp. I like, I know like Greg has been incredibly active early on and all the talking, but as we get closer to the season, they all will be. I think that you know, we want to foster that competitive spirit where, and I trash talk. Like, that's why I do almost any, that's why I play fantasy. That's why I play pickup basketball is so I can talk. And so we want a lot of that, but we definitely you know, we'll be driving that through the owners to help kind of reign in some of the, the vitriol and ugliness. And it's not, there's no place for that in sports. Right. That being said, there's going to be some that's part of it, inevitably, that kind of comes with, you know, that, that, again, that, that misdirected passion. So we're aware that we're going to keep an eye on it. We've got a really good community team that's going to help, you know, again, curate and help moderate that. The question is you know, for the football fans out there, you know, we're the XFL Mark gas, and we cover a lot of these, you know, the, the alternate football leagues, you know, you're going to find guys right, that are making their way, you know, hopping around. We covered the spring league and all that. And so I know that you guys had reached out to a lot of the spring league guys and posted, Hey, you know, cause their season got cut short, you know, please come and try out for us. So for people that want to see football right in February, that was going to be the original goal of, you know, we had thought the new XFL was going to come back again in February again. So are, you know, are they going to be seen good football, real, you know, I mean, is this going to be, where is the focus between being Entertaining and kind of that Twitch stream gaming versus also people that are football fans? It's a really good question. So there's a lot of stuff on the periphery as lead, right? There's all of these things like to your point, the guys were like, wait, what is this? There's a lot to it, a lot of moving pieces, but first and foremost, the product on the field has gotta be awesome to watch. Our goal is, look, if you want to, you can, you can have the lean back experience and just watch kick-ass football on the field but can interact with it too. It's whatever you read it, you want to then have that lean board experience. So you know, every year, you know, 5,000 plus kids coming out of D one who were good enough to play, you know, and were stars on Saturday and then couldn't get to Sunday. And so it's an opportunity to kind of find some, some of those guys. And, and and we're the way we're kind of recruiting and putting into the teams is twofold. So first and foremost, they've got to like, again, we've got, we've had three combines at this at this point. And then we're continuing to sign. I think we're doing a fourth one really soon. So we're signing guys that can just flat out play, right? Because honestly, none of this works unless that's good football, if you, it just, none of it, you're not, and it's easier said than done, I think, but we're pretty excited about the group of guys that we're putting together. And then, so they all have to be able to play and then we're actually taking another cut about that. And so it is, it is, it's a lot to juggle, but it's, it is have quality product on the field. And also are these guys, the type of guys that light up when a camera's on, are they content creators by themselves? Are they going to engage with the fans over the course of the week? Do they have cool stories to tell? And so that's a little bit about how we're getting to, you know, the, how the player selection process works. We, we, we do, we do have to discuss this because it is, it is a, it is an ongoing issue in in, in the world right now. You said you're playing all the games in Atlanta, Georgia. Yes, sir. What kind of protocols are you taking to make sure we don't get any delays from COVID? Ooh. Yeah. COVID hi, what's this COVID I don't know what you're talking about. I've no, yeah. Being in Southern California, man, it's it is, it's a big deal. So it's a really important to us. We're we are, our guys are bubbling up, so we're going to this, the bubble model. So they're going to be reporting kind of early January. We have, we'll have an epidemiologist on staff there locally, but our whole plan has been created and blessed by some leading epidemiologists, both nationally, and then also in Atlanta, our production our production team is kind of top-notch. And so we are, you know, player safety first and foremost. Again, we've got the bubble with the housing piece and then the actually in, in, in, in the arena. So it's a short season, so we're not asking much of these guys, you know, weren't, you know, six, seven weeks of like actual playing and then a couple of like in, in camps. So not a ton of time to be bubbled up, but we're, we're really neurotic about it because in a small league you know, with that type of player pool, if you an outbreak, the season's just done. And I mean, transparently, like we fired a lot of them raised a lot of money to get to this point and we're firing that entire clip into the season because we really want this to be something that resonates with fans. And so to be able to expand it and go and do this at the next level. And so we're clear that even if even a small outbreak can end the season. And so we're we're, it's, it's something that is like part of literally every meeting that we have is like, where are we with the COVID protocols? How are we taking care of the players and, and whatnot. So it's a great question. I mean, you know, we were all in XFL, you know, we were like, you know, we went to DC for the games, you know, then, you know, that got cut. And then the spring league, you know, we're all in, I was, I had my flight to go to the championship game and you know, that got cut. So yeah, it is, it's huge for these fans right there. They're watching and getting invested. Right. There's nothing worse than to be. So yeah. I mean, whatever you guys have to do for that, I'm sure you already know all this, but yeah. It's just, it's, it's a fans want to get invested in this stuff and kind of see it the whole way through us. Totally man. Like I, yes, absolutely. Especially like what a bummer that would be if I like helped a boat or create a logo and I voted on the name and write like that, I was helped building the brand identity for a team and then two weeks into it, they're not even playing anymore. Like am I'm. So with you, and we saw it with the screaming Eagles, there's an affinity for these teams that you have that you just wouldn't have necessarily if it was this established brand, right. Like I'm helping create my voice is being heard. This is genuinely my team. And then also you'll see it too. During the course of the season. One of the things we talk about a lot is about we want fans to be able to say we, we won and Nina's in a way that, like, when I moved to LA, it was amazing to me, how many people would be like, all we won this week talking about the Lakers. And I was like, Oh, did you, you won, Thank you, Stan. I understand that we mentality a lot. That's a soccer mentality. That is a soccer mentality to when little like soccer matches the supporters are part of the team, part of the team. And we, and we agree. It's not like, again, we're just taking that to the next level and saying, Hey, look, w fans can say we and meet it. Right. They can engage with that stuff over the course of a week and give them, give their teams special advantages over the course of the game. They're actually calling players. I mean, I think if you fast forward this a couple of years, you start thinking about, well, clearly that, you know, obviously, you know, teams will be recruiting other players, but I think there's also, as we, as we go forward, teams will be recruiting other fans, right? Like if you're the top play caller and strategist, and you're like the top bait IQ winner for this other team and on globally, I think there's going to be a, really a back and forth where groups of bands are pulling talented strategists from other teams. And so, yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm with you. I think that's such a bummer when, when you say we got this you know, attachment to a team and then, you know, they're not, they're not playing anymore. So we take that various, I have one more question and it's kind of my soap box issue that I've had for a while with base. They're going to be fans that are going to want to call plays Based on a statistical preference, as opposed to a human heart drive. No, that hurts Schilling type of, I hate referencing this because I hate to run, but that Curt Schilling type of moment where the socks bleeding in this day and age baseball, that wouldn't happen. That bloody sock game wouldn't happen in this day and age baseball. How do you differentiate? How do you, how do you differentiate those that are basing their decisions on stats only, and not the heart of the players in the game? So, so your question, just so that I'm clear is how do I, how do I differentiate? Or how do I ensure that it's more like hard than statistical? Yeah, Please. I mean, it seems like, it just seems like the heart of heart of something like this, the interactive aspect would be more driving than a statistical fact. Thank you. I think you're S you're you're spot on. We saw it with our proof of concept team. There were guys that had laminated laminated, like huge charts of every play possible. And they like, they were ready or they're marking it up as we were going, there are going to be those people. But I think if we've done this right, if we found and cast the right people in this league, then, then it becomes about that relationship with the fan. I tell a story a lot, but when we had the screaming Eagles, we had this the first, the first game that we ever had where fans were calling plays. And the first touchdown that fans called, literally everybody just stormed the field, like literally 18,000 people to storm the field. And then wouldn't leave. We were there for like 18 minutes. It was ridiculous. But but after the game, one of the things that we we asked of our players would be, again, it's, you know, changing this interaction between player and fan. We asked them to stay on the field for 10 to 15 minutes after the game, just to meet fans, sign, sign, footballs, or whatnot. So three, everybody's getting pictures of the players and whatnot. And I saw this guy six, eight receiver was walking by and this little kid grabbed him and he's like, and Devin. And he's like, yeah, what's up man. And he's like, I called that plaque called your touchdown. And he got down on wouldn't even, he looked at this, this eight year old kid in the eye and was like, man, thanks for calling the number. And I think you're changing that relationship between player and fan. So to the degree that I think there'll be a lot more to your point heart bloody sock moments. I think that because they're, they're building a relationship that transcends the normal player fan relationship. And so so much of the, what we're doing is an experiment we've have hypotheses, but you know, that's part of the fun of this league is when you open stuff up to, you know, crowd think does this different things are going emerge. And so we've got an idea how fans are gonna react. And we don't always know this first season, we're going to do a lot of AB testing to make sure that like, I'm a big gamer. This is like pre-release software. This is early access software. And it says that like beta test. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and we want a ton of fan feedback. We're going to try some stuff that maybe fans love. Maybe it's not their favorite thing. And know fans could actually craft for the game. So week to week, there'll be like balance patches and fan IQ. And maybe we're trying a new rule set or two and, and, and, and want fan buy-in for that stuff. So again, my hope is that we're, we're doing the things that like draw the fans and the players, and we found the right guys on the field that want to engage with, with, with the fans. And then that becomes, again, just a new kind of relationship that drives those bloody soft moments. Awesome. I so appreciate you coming on you know, to, to kind of talk through this, I know, you know, we're, we're gearing up and there's a lot of interest out there. You know, I think the first time we talked about this, we were a little skeptical back in like October, but just as this has continued to go and do research on our part, I, I do think this is great. You know, I think you guys obviously have, have a good thing going with the engagement and everything's, I hope we can have you on again. You know, here in the future, as we get closer to, you know, training camps and all that sort of stuff, Paul's got something. And I do think that a lot of the skepticism came from like technical questions that we just covered right now. So we definitely appreciate you clearing all that up. It sounds, it sounds like you got a lot of this stuff ironed out. I'm not going to like jinx you here, but it sounds like a lot. It sounds like you got a lot. It sounds like you got a lot of kinks that I had questions about worked out. So we're, we're definitely very interested in seeing what you guys put on the field. Well, thanks. Cause I think you're right to be skeptical. Like there's, there's a reason there was a reason this has never been done before. Look, everybody, we get asked all the time, like, where'd you come up with this idea? And I was like, literally, anybody who's ever watched sports has had this idea. They've yelled at the TV, the Marshawn got On Twitter and type their opinion. Every, every single fan, like you're passionate about sports. You've had this idea. I think that you're right to be skeptical about it because nobody's ever done it because there are so many moving pieces. It's a lot to pull together from a technology. And from like a you know, a player present football operations perspective, it's a lot to juggle. Real-Time latency is we're building a league that's purpose-built for Twitch. So we're, you know, they're equity partners of the league and we're integrating deep with a lot of this system. So I think you're right to be skeptical. I think that's super healthy. What I will say is that we've got an incredibly talented group of people trying to have this be an incredible experience and fundamentally change the way fans get to watch and engage the sports. And I'll come back. Anytime a guy who's got an NBA jam cabinet in the background, so onboard, I will be here anytime you want me, I'm going to get them while you can't see my office, but I'm going to pull up waiting for a mortal Kombat to a cabinet to come. And then I was just thinking about jammer blitz. I wasn't sure which one I was going to go to. So Gambling is, is like, I hate to get into price here. I got actually I wanted an, a contest, but normally they go for like $500. So Very cool. Yeah. Aware of the price, but I think it's worth it to have that in your office. Like, come on. It's gonna be a jam. Well, thanks again. And yeah, appreciate, you know, all the, all the interactions back and forth and we're excited to, to cover the league. So it should be good. Anytime guys, definitely. Oh, no. He needs to, he needs to stop dodging the podcast. I'll put a bug in his ear. Want To thank Patrick Dees for joining us, talking about fan controlled football and Miro stop being a coward. Come on the podcast. Yeah. I'm all in. I really am. I was talking to Dorothy about it too. Cause she was asking you, Hey, how is she knew that Patrick was coming on? And I said, you know, not that we were like grilling Patrick, like we just have questions. Right. Like, you know, but I thought that every concern that we had as like, you know, football fans is people that were interested in this. I bet he did a really good job. It seems. I'm really excited. I really do think, and I know we told Patrick out on the thing, but I do think it's going to be a good, a good success. And I am excited to be, you know, watching it and kind of covering it here in February. Dorothy, have you ever given Dorothy a birthday gift of the caliber that you gave me on wheelhouse? She a tough question because if you, if you had ever given her a gift like that, she probably would have divorced. You let's be honest. That was a terrible birthday gift. You know, it was a lot of work. I mean, we paid for shipping the hats back and forth. I had to go down to FedEx. I mean, it was a lot that was a lot of work for that. And I still have my wheelhouse hat maybe for like episode 100. I'll wear the wheelhouse app. I think it's still episode 79 will be the Friday before the XFL kickoff. Just throwing that out there. Are you counting down? Well, I did the math back when they kind of did the whole purchase, but it is if everything continues and we do one every week, there'll be episode like 79 on the front end. Oh, hi Mark. Pause. Excited. Yeah, I just, Oh, hi Mark. Yeah. So anyway, that being said, let's go back to XFL news right now. Steve Spurrier was spotted in a Renegade's jacket. That's cool. I don't, I'm not, I'm not a big Spurrier guy. I know his son was with the renegades and you know, I mean the jacket looks sick. I mean, I want one of those, but I decided that just got any, you know, any little thing Jean Jones with, you know, with all, all that stuff just gets people going crazy, but they thought, Hey, maybe he's coming in because we lost a couple of head coaches, you know, we lost you know pep Hamilton is with the chargers now or there he's either a charged he's MLA. And then like when somebody, you know, a couple of the guys are gone and so they're thinking like, Hey, maybe Steve Spurrier could come in and be a coach here in the XFL. Steve is 75 years old. I don't think he's going to come way back. Jerry Glanville. He's like a million Years old. Yeah. But he was the TSL guy and they, they got him to like kind of draw that was like that. I don't think the XFL needs a Steve Spurrier to bring people in, but the TSL needed a Jerry Glanville to bring people in. Do you understand what I'm saying? I get that like the exposure levels are completely different night and day. So the head ball coach, I don't really see him coming to the XFL and doing anything like that. And all the only reason why he was wearing the jacket was cause of the sun was probably Yeah, I it's cool. I want that jacket. Speaking that merge. This morning I woke up my PJ Walker, knockoff, Chinese knockoff Houston roughnecks Jersey that I paid $45 for is shipping from China. So I had bought it like a month ago or I bought it when when I got the PJ Walker, the Carolina Jersey, but it's in route. So I think when it comes, we'll do a live on boxing on the podcast because I don't know what's actually going to be in the box that comes. So I think that that will be a fun segment when that comes, we'll do a live on boxing. Do you want to do a live unboxing of your [inaudible] so I can laugh at how bad your bootleg Jersey can be incredible. And I'll, I'll, I'll be eating my Crow by the end of the second one. Should it be in impeccable? And I'll be like, You know me, I'd be like, Oh, that stitching's a little off. I'd have to send it. You would, you would be complaining about it. And then you might not get it for a while. Cause there's, they're delaying some, some shipments from China at the ports because of COVID you might not get it for another, you know, It's fine. We're we're there. We're all, you know, it's, it's 12 to 16 weeks. Now, if you wanted to get an Apple AirPods, max, you know, they've already delayed those like three or four months. I mean, I'll, I'll wait for the Chinese knockoff. I'm good. I'm not doing that. Some XFL related signings the Washington, the Washington football team has signed battle hugs, quarterback Taylor Hanaki to a contract. Yeah, they, they were talking before, like he's kind of that bonus quarterback on the sidelines, like the COVID outside the bubble, but like ready to hop in, in case something happens like with the Broncos, Another battle Hawks player, terr Taylor, Russell, Leno's signing with the Broncos As a kicker, he's been working a long time. He was coming in and then he signed onto the practice squad. So he's ready to go. Elijah. Campbell's probably moved from the, with the practice squad or the active roster, the offense back alleged Campbell from the DC defenders. Yeah, for the jets. Can, can, they couldn't do worse in there than they do it. Did. She said that that was nuts. And then they fired the coach. That was nuts with Raiders. This has gotta be it for Greg Williams. Oh, he's Fired he's well, I mean, in general, yes, he can't get another job. Not only like, is, this is the same guy with the, the bounty, right? If I'm not mistaken, it's the same guy who was busted for the bounty in new Orleans. And I'm going to have to verify that I hopefully I'm not, you know, completely throwing him under the bus here, but no, he was not the same guy with the wait. He was the same guy. Yes. Greg Williams was the same guy. This Greg Williams I got fired for the jets was the same guy involved in the saints bounty scandal where they're paying players to knock other players out. So this has gotta be it for Greg. Greg is a pretty common name. It's easy, probably easy for me to have like two Greg Williams floating around, but this has gotta be it for Greg. He can't, he can't be, he can't be a coach anywhere anymore. I'm sorry. You just can't. Yeah, I bet that was not it's that game I was watching. I was watching the highlights. I'm like, how did the Raiders win this game? I was like a lap. And we bring up fired coaches because you put, talked about pep Hamilton earlier. Pep might be out of a job soon because Anthony Lynn will, will, will be gone after the season. Like the chargers are busily bad. They're terrible. And athlete Anthony Lynn. And it's unfortunate because there's, there's going to be a deal made because Anthony Lynn is, is a black head coach. There's going to be a deal made about the lack of black, black head coaches in the NFL. And I completely understand the concerns, but for some reason, Anthony Lynn has lost this charters team and there needs to be a change. And that, that is irrelevant of any racial implications for me. So Yeah, they're, they're awfully yeah. Doll. Parham is a, is a buying time. They're trying to do something. Yeah. And then Jonathan Hayes, bell Hawks, coach he's interviewing for Vanderbilt. So, you know, he might not, I saw this because they fired Vanderbilt's coach and a disco Inferno. I don't know what he was. I don't know what he's trying to allude to because Vanderbilt of course, made a news a couple of weeks ago for having a female place kicker for having the first female place kicker at a, at a power five school. Of course, New Mexico did it. Years ago, New Mexico had a female place kicker, but this is the first time a power five schools had a female player on the field doing anything. And this school kind of, I don't know if he alluded to the fact that the coach for Vanderbilt got fired because of this. No, Vanderbilt's terrible too. That's why he got fired. Had nothing to do with a female kicker. So hopefully Jonathan Hayes gets a serious consideration for this. Paul, I'm going to let you take the name pronunciation on this last flare that he has a, he has a spring league, kicker signed. He he's signing with the Panthers. It's the first spring league. Simony right from the whole 2020 kind of bubble season, whatever Paul, give us, give us a name. Check on this. Leerom HIEs. Ralph Lou. Okay. There you go. At El rim underscore 70. He was a General's kicker. They are playing and we'll segue into the stream, except out of this. He is playing, he was playing for the generalist. Presumably he won't be in the championship game if he is signing with the Panthers. But yeah, so that's kind of officially the first signing from the spring league go into the NFL. So there you go. Right. I'm going to just say Leerom, I'm not going to try to pronounce his last name. Congratulations or Amman getting signed to the patent with the bathroom's love some XFL talent. Yeah. Yeah. Matt rule is, is he was, he was a fan that rule, listen to the Mark cast, new shirt, Moving on. The CFL is coming back. Of course, when we started the Marc cast, we we were the ones to bring it to Chad Ochocinco that you remember his reaction. He was like, what? He didn't even, he didn't realize that the, the CFL had been canceled, but they're coming back. Are you going to pick a CFL team read? I will have to. I will probably go with the Calgary stampede, right? Cause that's Chris Jericho's team, right? Isn't that Jericho? The Calgary stampede is that Peter San Peter's Calgary. That's it. I'm all in Chris Jericho. You're all in on the, I'm going to pick, I'm going to pick, why would he pick, why couldn't he pick the Winnipeg blue bombers? Is he from Winnipeg? He is from Winnipeg blue bombers. That's it? I want whatever Jericho, right? There's an Edmonton football team to get out. We might Have to do. Yeah, we'll do some CFL coverage. All right. So I'm going to pick, I'm going to pick my team too. I don't pick the a, I'm going to pick the Montreal Elowitz. All of that. I like that. Yeah. Is that an animal? Is LOL. Is that an animal? Like an owl? [Inaudible] Cause they're French. So CFL's coming back I guess going with the Montreal alphabets. Yeah. And then real quick on this major league football, and then we'll talk about the spring league stuff. So this has been trying to come off the air for a while. They've been working on this Josh Davis is really high on this with the news news hub, majorly football. They're going to be running in like may, June, July, like into the summer months. So that might be a good like Mark cast time filler to, you know, Hey, we're all for it. So but, but they've got, they've got 10 teams trademarked right now. They said, they're going to do a 16 bubble season. You know, we've heard that before. Are you looking at these teams? They're kind of weird and, and get your thoughts on these. I have, I'm just looking at them right now as we speak, this is, this is interesting to say the least. So we have the Alabama airborne, we had the Arkansas attack, Florida fusion. We have the Northwest empire, which is like really weird Ohio union, Oklahoma nation. And then you have the Oregon crash, Texas independence, Utah stand and Virginia Armada. So they're only going to pick six in these stand. Well, and I assume you, you can't do the Northwest empire and then also the Oregon crash, but they, these are like totally trying to do non like no NFL teams, you know, like Oregon and stuff. But it, they, they said it's basically the same as the NFL. It's a 32nd play clock. 50 yard field goals are worth four points. Oh, that's like the what was the worldly NFL Europe they're saying. Yeah. Same thing. NFL Europe, world league. I remember that where they were had like a team in London that was really cool. The, the ground can cause a fumble. And then in case of overtime, it's a 10 minute period. So we're I think we're going to be covering this. They just are kind of talking. I think they've been going back and forth three years. Mike Mitchell said, yeah, they've been trying to get us off the ground, but if it comes in, in, you know, June, July, that's a really great time for us to be covering this, you know, kind of waiting around on some XFL stuff. So do you want to go with, I guess Northwest empire? I mean, I guess we got to wait until they pick the teams, but those are some down team names. Yeah. I think Northwest empire is better than Oregon rush Crash, crash, like the Sandra Bullock movie. Yeah. and then a couple of last notes spring league is set December 15th. So next Tuesday, it's going to be at camping world stadium in Orlando. Josh Davis broke that and then it was funny like yesterday ESPN ran that story. I'm like, yeah, we've actually known that for 'em. We've been all over it. So thanks to Josh for all his hard work with covering the spring league. Yeah. And they, but they did send out this, this memo to players and it does sound like it's going to be, cause we know spring league had some COVID stuff. Each team's going to have their own hotel. Each player will have a single room meals will be supplied. That was a big deal with Kent Shelby, you know, talking about the food and they, they're going to need to bring an email confirmation of a negative COVID test as close to your arrival within 96 hours, which I never get like taking the test and then getting on the plane and then getting there, like I never get aren't you getting it on the plane? They actually say scientists. And I, you know, you can say this all you want to scientists, you know, people say, Oh, well the scientists get it wrong all the time. Yeah. They get it. They get it. They get it right. More often than the person that failed biology class. That's trying to educate you on Twitter. So leave the scientist alone. Scientists are actually saying it's safer to ride on a plane than it is to do some of the stuff that we're doing everyday, like going to the grocery store. Okay. But they are requesting, they are requesting that you drive. So, so I'm driving, you came anyway. So it does seem like they're doing the spring league game. Brian says we've got our adjusters merged come in. So he's got you know, he's got my address. So hopefully that will be coming. And maybe we can do an unboxing of that as well. Will you do it in that gesture dance thing that happened the other day, You went viral on Twitter. This is our, this is when we officially get into our, this is our crap segment at the end of the podcast. So if you're good on the XFL and TSL I went viral on Twitter who knew I was just trying to play a joke on you and we'll You were, and Vic Berger, who of course was, was became well-known for his edit, his clever edits of the Trump 2016 Republican debates. If you haven't seen one of the best one that is out there as it's called, Trump has no chill. Yeah. It's him like berating Jeb Bush. And it's funny. And probably part of the reason why Trump won, but we're not going to hold it against Vic Berger. Cause Vic Berger has been very outspokenly a critic of Trump and I'm like sitting there going, well, your videos kind of made Trump like a likable person. Cause it was kind of funny to watch Trump, you know, Janet, you're terrible. Jeff you're terrible. Jeb, you RMS. Anyway Vic, Vic came notoriety and notorious, I should say, not notoriety notorious for his Trump debate edits. So yeah, he retweeted reads a little gesture dance, by the way, it was terrible. You said something and Paul like commented, this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen. So, you know, I had to like record the video and get it on there and he's he would retweet. But yeah, that was good. I know last week we have a big debate about your neighbor you know, trying to steal your food. He smokes outside, you know, gets in the air conditioning. Chad Ochocinco, I think has this solution for your neighbor's problem. You see the photo, right? I do just smoke a cigar in the bathtub, Please. I think someone said something to him though, because I haven't had cigarettes or anything going on outside the door. I think because here in California is a law. You can't smoke 30 feet from like an open doorway. So any the person that was in a unit below me to the left, they smoked before they moved out because they lost their job due to COVID. So they had to move out. She always went out to the street to smoke, always went up the street to smoke. And that's, I think that's, that's the law here in California. So I think someone said something to him. Like you need to take it down to the street and you can't smoke to your door. Keep that link up. Cause I'm going to add that photo to the thing, please. Rock is killing Tara Monta sails. The ice cream is like it they're going to make 300 million or some crazy the ship 300 million units this year. Are you looking at this? Yeah, it's insane. 300,000 cases in 12 months, he says it's like a humblebrag for context, Clooney sold 200,000 of his, whatever thing. So the rock has taken shots at George Clooney. That could be it. I did read that the rock wants Terra Moto to kind of be the Tito's of the tequila world. And I think he's, he's, he's at a, he's at a good level to do it. I mean, if he's tell him if he's moving that minute, much tequila, he's definitely in the conversation. Cause Tito's is like the brand of vodka now. Yeah. You know, it's, it's made here in the U S made in Texas. I have a friend who's married to someone who, who works with Tito's a lot. So yeah, she she said the, you know, Tito's takes care of their people and maybe the rock is trying to build a very similar model to theirs right now. So, Oh, I love that. Speaking of we're big fans of cameo on the site. Yep. This shotgun, You're a harsh cam. You're a huge cameo Mark Floored me this morning. The guy that plays Kevin on the office, highest earner on cameo this year, a million dollars made off cameos. That's insane. Did he make more money from a year on the office or a year on cameo as Kevin on the office? Depends on what you want. Depends on what year you're talking about because if you're talking to like a year where he's actually acting on the show where it's active, maybe the second year, he probably be more on cameo that second year, but make no mistake. The fifth year that he was Kevin on the show, when he had a syndication deal coming in, he's probably made more in the fifth year of the office than he did on the, on the second year or this year when he's, he's probably made more on residuals on the office that he made on cameo this year. But that's the nuts and million dollars. I said, I wanted to tweet how much you think Sharman Jones made on on-camera this year? How much did you spend? 20 bucks? I said, is that it is that all Sharmi man? Yeah. Minus, minus whatever percentage cameo took. Cause he made a million that was his royalty check. And that means, cause they only get like 30, 35% of that. So that means that he made $2.5 million. That's and then this Holy cow, Keep this link up too. Cause I'll add this on Dude. What the F bro. Okay. Are we okay to share it? Because I don't want to like post this if the RAF is like seriously. Yeah. The refs. Okay. But this is, this is, this is this guy. This kid's an idiot. Yeah. This kid is the, like the quintessential definition of idiot. Let me explain, let me explain you. You've probably seen this video by now. If you haven't read, it's going to put it up on the YouTube channel. If you're listening to audio podcast, I'll explain a kid was ejected from a game, decided to run on the field and just bulldoze this ref and knocked him on his behind. It was insane. And it was like, Oh my God, the worst part of this is that this kid not only cost himself potential scholarship offers, He's never played football again. I mean never Playing football ever again. And it's sad because this kid was a defensive player of the year, one year. Like I think not this year, but last year he was the defensive player of the year and he's a star wrestler. So no college is going to take this kid to be in their athletic department. So therefore his career as an athlete is over because he'd got too off And they, they kicked the team out. Right? Like they just qualified them. So the team like went to like protest at the prison. Like you are at the jail. He was at like the jail for, he got locked up or whatever. And they went to go like protest. I said, I would have just left that alone. Yeah. Just since yourself. Because now when you protest now, all of a sudden it's like, well, we gotta suspend the team and kick them out of the playoffs. So I don't care. I don't care. You know, I literally do not care if if this is your teammate, like he was out of line. And if I were one of his teammates or like a true teammate out of grabbed him by his face max mask and said some expletives in his face and, and left at that, I don't, I don't understand why this, why the team is backing him. Yeah. It's terrible. Yeah. When that came out, like right after we recorded the last week. So I thought that was good to talk about. Anyway, man, we got that. It's a good, we got a good episode. I think Patrick Dees from coming on and talking with us fan controlled football. Of course log-on XFL show.com/review XFLshow.com/merch to get your merchandise, some line items still up there. So just pick up your XFL, XFL Markcast merchandise. We appreciate it. Keeping us going, keeping us afloat. And we'll we'll see you next week. Thanks.

XFL Markcast - Episode 17 Miro is a Coward!

It's not there. You have the worst. The worst. The worst opinion, like time-span. Like you're like, you're like Nydia his daughter. She says 10 minutes and thinks it's like three hours. You just, your, your span of time is insane. It's insane. I just want you to know, we, we, we just, we chopped off the first 30 seconds of this pocket. Three minutes, but go. We decided to go again. Yeah, we got a lot of stuff today. I didn't really know. I kind of put it in an order where I thought stuff would go. I figured we'd start at Tonda XFL. Val stuff. I know we have a lot of rock staff. You don't want to think about the food thing again, you don't want to bring that back up again. We can bring up the food thing. I just thought it was funny that you. I on your other podcast. Congratulations on your, I heard you guys have, um, you crossed the downloads and everything you're doing very well. Congratulations. I mean that, and, but I was listening to this week and I heard. Uh, you were telling the story to your co-hosts, that you walked out your front door and your door dash delivery. Your neighbor brand new neighbor was, was trying to, I presume trying to steal your food, but you said that you think he was trying to help you. I don't know what the intent was, but he had my feet, like the door dash. The door dash person. I shouldn't say guy because I don't know if it was guy, girl, so I want to be. I don't want to be gender specific here. Knocked on my door. I put some pants on and within 10 seconds I opened my door. And my new neighbor had my food in his hand and then handed it to me and I'm like insane. This isn't the same. But he's new to the building. And I was like trying to be cool and chill and not be that guy, like right off the bat because people know me as that guy right off the bat. And I don't want that. But, but you're, but we'll go, school goes, okay. He's needed the building. Is he new to the earth? Like. That that's insane. During a pandemic. Yeah, we had pizza delivered last night. If my opened the door, my neighbor was holding the beats and for me it would be in Sydney. Tell your neighbor a little bit better than I know mine. My point was I got, I had, I was having a random conversation. I see on Twitter, I'd take you about seven. I don't even know who this guy was. And then you respond like, not today, I'm not in the mood, but I was like, okay, so that is the rap, but then your neighbor has food. And now that will let that slide. So I just thought it was interesting. Just the balance of like, what is okay. Stop your right. So would that being said. Uh, yeah, let's move on with the show here. Thank you for listening. XFL Mark Hass. Before we start though, while let you guys know exfil, though. XFL show.com/merch. The merger will be getting a make-over. Uh, soon I will be uploading some new, uh, logo updates. Got a little bit of, a little bit of a headache with our on demand print distributor. So the XFL Mark cast, you guys have you people out there have their collectors items. Congratulations. So, uh, the new, uh, logos are going up very soon. We'll have those up this weekend also. Um, XFL show.com/review. Please leave us a review. We appreciate all the reviews. Do you have any more recent reviews? We did have three, which is great. And we were doing the mass giveaway. Now these are just coming in from the gracious of people. Sorry. I really appreciate that. Like I said, um, XFL fan spring league fan controlled football. I know Kenny. I was tweet with him. He got his mask either that we were doing for the mass giveaway. And he goes, I really do like listen to you guys because I get kind of a little bit of everything, right? Where some of the acts of foul podcasts right now, they're like, well, what is this spring league what's going on? I think I really do try to like, get all the news that we can and kind of get all this stuff around it out. We had three come in a pod review, great podcasts. These guys are passionate and always have good information about all things. Exit foul. That's from X, F L F P. That's the XFL fan podcast. I believe I'm in their Facebook group. Uh, we have one from Canada, Mr. PA, this is, I can't even look at this one on the thing. Cause it's, I'm not in French. The French are. No. It says, I love happy. This is around. I love the exit fell. I'm so sad. I won't be around for another year. Uh, then God, this pod is around much love from PA from the not after 30 podcasts. And then, uh, [unknown] says one of the best podcasts I've ever heard. So there you go. Leave making noise. I just felt it was required to play the Canadian national Anthem since we got it. Well, that's the thing I kissed when you get them on rate this podcast, which is a great service. You can also go to rate this podcast.com/exit valve gets you to the same place. But yeah, I can't even see that review because I'm not being candida, but they let me know like, Hey, you got this, you can, if you have a VPN on your phone, Oh, okay. I mean, we're getting in the weeds here, but anyway, so we got an eye. I will use the VPN on my phone. I'll go check it out and report back to you. What the Canadian, uh, review is. Maybe, maybe we're, maybe we're 4.5 stores now. International we're international now, babe. Oh, yeah. We did get two, one star reviews. I think they're from the attitude era podcasts that we talked about. Either the attitude era podcast, or maybe a different one that we won't discuss here. So I'm moving on. Yeah. Um, so yeah. So I felt like we kinda got the three big things today. We got XFL staff, we've got spring league stuff, and then we got fingered told football. I kind of want to go maybe XFL fan controlled and then spring league. Um, so I kind of put everything out here. Um, so of course we, we recorded, uh, I think Wednesday last week and then lo and behold, we miss news again, big XFL black Friday black Friday sale coming out. Thanks, Danny. Be great. If you could let us know next time we could just do it. Give us a heads up. Okay. So she did this whole thing tweeted like, Hey, you know, midnight on. Um, Thanksgiving, everything's going to go live. So of course everybody was going crazy. Uh, of course your, your boy Reed was there at nine o'clock, Pacific 12 Eastern on a black Friday. And there was a, I knew hat, which I ordered. Obviously. Tom it's question in the world. Hi, Mark. And then there was a new shirts and then they like discounted a bunch of stuff. So I got my land, you're a member. I was going to get that dragon lanyard and the thing. So I did get that for the 40% off. So it was like six bucks. I do want to comment on the merge you are wearing today. Oh yeah. That is awesome. We didn't, we kind of buried the lead here. We kinda like, you know, he's Rakim for those people that are listening to the audio version of this podcast. He is rocking the replica, not the authentic, but the replica PJ Walker. Uh, Carolina Panthers Jersey. The reason I say it's the replica is cause I can tell that the numbers are ironed on and not stitched. I don't think they make authentic games, your shoes for backup QB to sit, play one game. Yeah. I don't think that that exists. I know I looked on there. Cause again, we originally, this was thought to be a custom made one. Then our friend Michael Payne sent in and then it ended up that, um, no, you can actually buy one. There was actually a PJ Walker one. So if there's not then tick one. I don't think it exists right now, but I got this one. And then the end of the show, I'm going to prove that there's an authentic one by the end of the day. Well, maybe, maybe you could make a custom authentic one that says PJ Walker. And this is the PJ Walker. Anyway. Uh, PJ Walker. Yes, God got the Jersey got a shout out from the XFL. Uh, Instagram account. They liked my father, which is great because they had not congratulated PJ Walker. And that was also kind of within the whole black Friday. We were upset with that a little bit. Well, I think I got my point across because then it, then. Last Sunday. So basically they did all the black Friday stuff, you know, exit fell, Twitter came back online. They finally hired somebody to do like social media, which is crazy. They did all the black Friday stuff. And then they did finally congratulate PJ Walker on. Doing the, you know, winning the game. Last week. And I said, thank you. It's only been seven days. Glad we finally got that going, but I think I got my point across. You're you're out petty petting me right now with your. But it was ridiculous. Even Mark on, we can review it, needs that he goes, why don't, you know, Mark how's guys are really kind of upset about this because I do. I think it's ridiculous. I think that, that, you know, PJ one first, his first NFL games anyway, so they got it. Uh, but yeah, so we got the BJ Walker Jersey. Uh, that was, yes. Side note on that. Good. Good to hear. But anyway, yeah, so they did the black Friday staff. We got the thing, people are going crazy. It was cool to see. There was a lot of Twitter activity at nine o'clock on the Thanksgiving night for people buying. XFL merged. So, I mean, What do you think about that? I was actually had that question for you. So they did like 40% off and then 50% off. They're just trying to get rid of all this old merge, right. To bring in new stuff. Probably. Yes. Is it most likely scenario? Yes. Is that people are presuming that they're going to keep the same teams, but then just have new, like newly designed merge with new merchandise partners. Right. Is that what you're going to be? They're going to keep the teams in place. It's just, you know, Um, They're just probably, maybe, maybe there's a redesign coming, or maybe they just rolling out some fresh new configurations of the same logos in different, you know, Indifferent, I guess what's the word I'm looking for? Variations, variations or whatnot. I did, like I said, this hats coming. I think it should be here like today or tomorrow. It should be, but it's, it's, uh, Uh, front hat with, everybody's got like a massive X on the front. Like it's huge. And I know from dealing with the merge people with the hats and stuff, you know, they give you like this tiny little embroidery window, you know, we want to have like these big logos and our hats, those hats, like the whole front of that, that logos, like the whole front of the hats. I'm very excited to see this XFL hat. And maybe they'll have some bedroom risk because some of the XFL merged before was kinda sketch, you know, it was. Are you still looking for the authentic Jersey? I am in. I've I've I have to say that that's probably the closest thing you're going to be as authentic. So the problem is already solved. Yep. But, yeah. So you didn't pick up any acts of the filmers on black Friday and he walked. I did not pick up the ax fell, Walter, actually, no, wait. I did get the hoodie. I do believe we got the hoodie. Yeah, I did. Or actually have the order number up here. Did you really. I bought a hoodie. Because eventually it'll be, it'll be cold enough in L LA to where it, I don't know. That's good. That's good. I can't wear it out to dinner because they're shutting us down again. I saw that you could have got an extra foot Mark acidy. I could have, I could still get one. They could still send me one leg, a sample order. I it's just, you know, Yeah, we got in trouble. We have a little talking to yeah. Um, so all the other fun thing about, so when the rock tweeted out that, um, the black Friday thing, cause like, you know, they, it was like a concentrated effort, you know, Danny tweeted and did like an Instagram thing and then the rock tweeted. So Danny Garcia is Twitter is Danny Garcia, co. And. Tweeted at Danny Garcia, which is like this random guy. So like the, did he. Like he just started getting blown up. Right. And he was like, I am not like, yeah. It was like, he had no clue, obviously what was going on, but this is kind of been the first time this ever happened. But so then like the rock took it down and then retweeted that and then took it down and I'm like, he just couldn't get his stuff together. And I'm like, And I'm watching all this real time. I go, man, you are the biggest movie star in the world. So that makes me think. Maybe it wasn't. They retweet you. Or your birthday, you're going to steal the thunder from, you're going to steal my moment. You're going to steal my glory. This is not cool. Speaking of stealing the gold room, we get to our spring league stuff later that we're going to talk about stealing the glory and our friend, Josh Davis. Uh, exit on the South. We'll we'll, we'll see if he's listening when we get to this point in the near in the podcast, because I do have some thoughts for that. Uh, but anyway, so, so the rocks back, you know, we've got XFL merge, we've got the, I think they were still doing the sale through Monday or Tuesday. I mean, they're just really trying to blow everything out. Not only that, but like, let me, let me break something news to you. Uh, black Friday, cyber Monday sales are all scam. You can see there, they're going to be sales all the time. It's just like, You you buy into the hype of, uh, I gotta get this. I gotta make sure I beat everybody out and within a week they'll restock. So just calm down, just calm down. That's like Dorothy loves happy hour. And I have to explain to her, like, it's just less portions for less money. Like you could go get like a normal thing or fries or a smaller thing or fries at happy hour. And they, Oh, that's our happy hour price. It's like, no, it's actually less food. Like if you order, I will go on to like Matador and you can get like the nachos that are unhappy hour and then not. But I. There are different sizes because it's different. It's not like you get the same, you'll get the same amount of food for less money. I will say this though, that the, uh Nidia and I went to happy hour since you had this place near her. Like three weeks ago. And the portions were ridiculous. For the portions were insane. We cause they do. Normally when you do all, you can eat like specials. They do half the portions and then you get like three rounds. They were doing full portion that we couldn't even finish the second round. It was that much. So sometimes very small. It's the exception, not the rule to law. You do get a special, or you can do get regular portions of the happy hours. So, yeah. Well, if you, and if you, if you got XFL merge, you know, comment on the video, send us a note, like, let us know what you got. Like I said, I got my dragons lanyard and I got the PJ Walker, you know? This wasn't involved with the XFL step, but we got that, but yeah, I'll let us know, but it was exciting and it was a very, it felt like the XFL was alive for like 30 minutes. We had an exit that Jim was tweeting. We had, um, Uh, Jackie, our fan, we have like all these people, all tweet and retweet. And then what did you get? And Zach and all this stuff. So, uh, it was, it was cool to see a lot of love out there. Speaking of love. Of course, we talked about the, uh, the late delay on the congratulations to PJ Walker. Um, apparently, you know, PE people are really high on PJ in Carolina. They're talking about like the fact that Matt rule is, uh, his coach in Carolina was his coach at temple. And they don't think that like, That he's probably going to go away. Like this is going to be a one and done thing and you know, we've discussed or maybe it's a, maybe it's a trade bait situation. Like Rob. Hello was in new England. Um, what do you think, like, do you think that PJ is going to get a shot? Either to be the heir apparent. For Teddy or. Is this a situation where PJ becomes trade bait because they also drafted well Greer. Yeah, it's crazy. And so, you know, I watched, I missed a lot of the Vikings, a Panthers game on Sunday, which was like knots and went down to the wire and it was like the Ms. Field goal and all that. But I tell you got hurt right at the end, they got rock. And I guess when he went to snap, that last ball, his arm was like dangling from his side. And he had said he woke up the next day and he goes, Oh, I felt fine. Like, it's totally fine. And they have a bias, I think this week, but I'm like, man, this is the third time. Now in like five weeks at Teddy's getting rocked at quarterback. And really getting hurt and $20 million a year. When do you shut them down and protect your investment? That's the question. And honestly, I think here's, here's, here's the thing. Teddy understands how competitive it is behind them. You got we'll Greer, you got PJ Walker. Teddy of course is going to say is okay, is going to say he's okay. Because like he knows. He doesn't want to be a $20 million backup quarterback. So. Uh, Teddy just if you're injured, man, just, just say it. It's frustrating. Cause you know, BJ went and did gray. It's just, you know, you feel like you got these guys, you know, stuck behind and just not being able to show what they have. Yeah. Do their potential. And I mean, yeah, not that, you know, Carolina played gray. That was a good game. I mean, they, um, had those, those two, I think it was like the two fumble interception or to fumble recovery, like back-to-back for TDS. I mean, It was a crazy game, but like, I dunno, it just stinks that you just wish PJ. Yeah. Anybody, we get a shot somewhere else from an organizational standpoint, this is what you can do. If your Carolina, if you shut Teddy down for the rest of the year. And put either we'll Greer, PJ doesn't matter who you put. I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to be biased here. I'd like to see BJ. You put will Greer. PJN you let them kick ass for the rest of the season. Maybe put up some great numbers, then you can go, you know what we need another second round pick. Why don't we try to move will for a second round pick? Why don't we try to move PJ for a second round pick? You gotta think of the big picture. If you're the Carolina Panthers organization and say we have potential starting quarterbacks, or maybe. Uh, solid backups that we can, we can offload to another team to grab a draft pick. Maybe a third round fourth round for one of these quarterbacks that we've either drafted or signed PJ, I mean, signed as an undrafted free agent. That's awesome. That's an awesome return for their assets. So. Why don't you think of that big picture? Play chess, not checkers and roll PJ or roll. We'll roll. We'll out. That's hard to say for me and all will out. And try to get some trade dial you back for these, these one of these two quarterbacks. That's that's my idea. Yeah. I mean, Caroline is not doing anything this year. I mean, it would be nice to see. But as you know, it's the same thing. You had Jordan, Tammy. You know, sitting on the sidelines, he, this way some of these guys would get, you know, it's kinda like getting signed to WWE, but you're not being used. It's like, okay, well, would you rather be in the XFL or, you know, like a w maybe not getting paid as much or MXD. You know, versus going to the WWE. And then, you know, you're, you're in the NFL, you're on the big roster. You're doing all this stuff and then you're not, you know, not getting them. Yeah to play as much. I mean, there's a situation happening in Denver and maybe Denver needs to call Colin Kaepernick to where Denver needs a quarterback. I mean, we saw what happened. They got honest to God, they got made an example out of. For their recklessness. I mean, Let's let's put this as clear as we can, the way the NFL treated. The Raven Steelers as compared to the Broncos was important. They made an example out of the Broncos because the Ravens and Steelers or our prestige teams this season, They wanted to make sure they were coddled. Yeah. The Broncos they could care less about, but they wanted to make sure this Raven Steelers game happened because it just happens to be the game. In that division. I know the Browns are eight and three, but come on. Yes, Brown's, they're going to finish eight minute probably. And if they don't, you can. You know, bookmark this and say this, you and use my receipts against me. I don't care. But I'm pretty sure it was. The way they treated these two different games is ridiculous. So maybe, maybe it's the Broncos that, that call up and say, Hey, are you using PJ? If you're not, let's ship a fourth round, a third round fourth round, or to you and get a real quarterback in here for Denver, because I don't think any of those guys that are on the roster, regardless of they're wearing masks are not in there near the quarterback coach. And they got exposed to govern. None of those guys are good. None of those guys are good. We've seen PJ shows, flashes of brilliance. But you know, who knows, who knows what's gonna happen there? Speaking there Capra. They can, you got to love on Thanksgiving when disco Inferno is like re-tweeting you're, you're you're takes that I Kaepernick should be the QB of the cowboy is I'm like. Why is this going for now? Yeah, the WCW wrestler for anyone that does know. Glenn Gilbert or the right, totally washed up. I mean, this guy is. You know, Wade Keller already says he has the worst acting manager for like wrestling for someone that's been around so long that I just, we don't need a game. Come on, stop being away, Mark. Right now. But anyways, he goes, I fundamentally disagree with like every single thing, Glen, Glen Verde ever has to say, but here's Glenn I'm. They're like, Oh, you guys are totally wrong. I go, why are you tweeting us about like, I didn't even know you. Like, I mean, at least if I'm talking crap about someone that comes back at me, I'm like, Ooh, who is Glenn go birdie? You know, here's, here's the thing, like I think Glen actually has an underrated mind for wrestling and I, I don't think all of his acumen is. I think. And honestly, this is going to be against your boy here, but has weighed ever stepped in a, in a ring? No. Len Gilbert, he has a Glenn Gilbert has an injured, anyone ever. So. I want you to bookmark this and I want you to, I want to let you know that I'm defending disco Inferno. I will not allow disco Inferno slander on this podcast. Not going to happen. You're a Patriot of his podcasts. If they're good. Well, I'm a Patriot of Conan's podcast, but that being said, like disco, Inferno, and I chat privately often, like he's, he's a good guy. Like I just, that's why. So I was in the crossfire because I'm like, why is Glenn coming to me back then? It's like, I'm not depending Capra Nick at all. I'm just tweeting, you know, fan controlled football. Like I glad that I could disagree, but at the same time, I like Glen. I think Glen is a smart dude and I think he understands wrestling a lot better than wait. I've never stepped into ring Keller. Sorry. It's true. Wait, just a Mark. Oh, hi, Mark. Um, so what did you think. Well, okay. First I'm getting off the ax that felt sad before we move on to the rock. Uh, van the man tweeted this at me or texted me. He was like texting me yesterday, where I was trying to watch the Steelers, Ravens and bands like texting me about this. I go van. We have like two hours of football on Wednesday because I just watched this and then we can, we, like, you can text me XFL stuff, like the a hundred other hours of the week. But you can buy XFL footballs on Amazon now. That's good. Who knew there's only like 10 per line, so maybe they're gone now, but if you want to XFL football, they're not on Nexavar shop.com, but you can get one on Amazon. I wonder if it was at a Chinese bootlegs situation, like your Houston roughnecks. I mean, it's. It's through Amazon, but it was a weird, I mean, I was, I just think that's really bizarre, but it showed like, you know, six left on this one, whatever. I think the XFL shop was selling like the mini footballs, but like all the dragons, once they're gone, they're all seen though. I would get that, but I did think that was interesting. Speaking of XFL old, old school XFL. Jim Ross has talked about his time. Commenting on the XFL. Again, one of the reasons probably failed. I'm sorry. I have to say that. The original 1.0 version of the XFL tried to be too much like a wrestling show and a competitor of the NFL, as opposed to being a supplement. And of course they played, uh, they paid wasn't Jerry Lawler involved in co and commentary too on the fridge Alexa film. Debbie they'd be asked staff. It was like way too much. It was like wrestling people. I'm trying to do. Sherif was there. I remember because they had that little gimmick between one of the coaches and just to ensure they're trying to like make a storyline there. Uh, Jim Ross has opened up about his time commenting on the XFL. He got paid $15,000 a game, a game, which is great money. Um, I would take that to sit there behind a booth for three hours and call it womb. I've done that before. Is that? What is that like? Whoa. Like, what is Joe bucket per game? Oh, it's male. Millie. Not per game maybe, but per year, Joel was like $15 million per year, but Joe does NFL and MLB. And as much as people hate on Joe, like he's kind of like, In terms of, you know, Michael Cole for WWE. You can hate the guy all you want, but at the end of the day, like who do you trust more to call these these games or these matches? If you're Michael Cole. You trust Joe Buck, because like he actually, he's a member of the baseball hall of fame. If I'm not mistaken. Yeah. And is Chris Collins forthright. That's the other announcer. Oh yeah. I mean, you heard about those, right? Well, I saw that. I was like, cause I was li I only caught like 10 minutes of the game yesterday because he had vans tweeting me. I've got this, I, this client was calling me about like the weather for a shoot next week. I go, why are we talking about this? I'm just trying, I'm trying to watch like Wednesday football for the first time in 40 years. And, um, I heard him, he was talking like, Oh yeah, I was walking around Pittsburgh and you know, the women. And I heard that. And then, yeah, of course today it comes out like canceled Chris Collins worth or whatever. He was saying, how he was talking with a lot of female fans and he was surprised at like, these girls knew football staff. Right. And then people were like, You're canceled. You're canceled. You can't say that. Yeah, I know. Come on man. Like it doesn't matter, like gender doesn't. I. Gender. Doesn't like, you know, you're with me here, gender doesn't like. Make you less smart and able to like, Have an acumen about a sport, like. It's hard when you're on national TV talking for like, I mean, they're just trying to fill, I don't know. I mean, I just have sympathy for these guys. Yeah. Guys, girls, whoever you're trying to fill time, you say one thing and then you're, I mean, he's not a jerk, right? I don't know. Maybe he is a jerk. If you're going to cancel Chris Collins worth canceled long time ago for saying here's a guy, here's a guy, here's a guy. That's all Chris Collins worth. It says here's a guy who done it in it at con cancel them for that. Not about us comment, but it's. It's like, it just shows that Chris is out of touch. He is older. We're not, we're not, we're not condoning it. We're not, you know, saying we're not giving them a path. Chris just doesn't understand that like women, these days care about sports, not just because. Uh, you know, the jerseys are great, but like there was a lot of women that know a lot of things about sports that I don't even know. And it's like it. An acumen for sports is not limited to gender. And unfortunately, Chris got caught up in that. Is this weird, like, I have a really weird, I told directly this, I have a really weird timing for seeing like all. 10 minutes of the game. I watch, like I saw that, right? What are the chances of the four-hour thing that I would turn it on and see that, like I saw it when Teddy got hit or when Nick folks get hit, like, I see these things and it's just really weird. Like I don't, I'm not even like, it's not like I got NFL line. I mean, I try to watch as much as I can. You're going to have that bell on 24 seven. But it is a weird, like, I'll just see this stuff in the album. Oh yeah. I saw it. I heard that. I heard Chris and him getting canceled for that. That's crazy. So did anyone else try out for the Broncos quarterback situation you were talking about Jordan 10 mood did that. I I'm sorry. We might've liked passed over that. No. So I was just saying to give him a chance. No, Mike Mitchell reported that there was a couple XFL guys. The kicker. Uh, Taylor Russell Lino. No, he he's always on there. He's trying that for Denver. And then you have this quarterback, uh, Taylor Hinoki and he is trying out for the Washington football team. And what was interesting about that was back to the Broncos. They are, I guess, going to try the NFL is going to try to allow some of these teams now that have like extra, extra, extra backup, um, QB like at home. So if this Broncos thing happens, like you can. You know, in case of emergency break glass, as opposed to having to do, but anyway, there's a couple of XFL guys against some try to tailor recently in that post a lot on there. Well, cool. Well, would that being said, uh, let's uh, let's clear that out. Let's take a little break here. Come back. We're gonna talk about fan controlled football. I believe that's what we're going to do next. Uh, right here on the X of L Mark. You don't want to talk about young rock. We can use that for the end of the show and the ice cream. We use it for the end of the show. Okay. And black. So. Fan controlled football mural. You're a coward. Aye. Aye. I'm like rant. Ready? Now, this is ridiculous. I'm telling you right now. I mean, spoiler alert, we're probably changing teams. I mean, this is like controversy going on. We'll get into the fan controlled football announcer logos today. They announced. Um, all the Jersey alternatives or the options you can build on for the jerseys and the colors are awesome. Miro my man. So Miro is a wrestler Rousseff in WWE. Now he's Miro and AEW estimate. Yeah. I thought, Oh, this'll be cool. We'll support the bees. We got Marshawn Lynch. He's the owner, you know, Seattle Seahawks. And then we've got Miro, Mike Tyson. He's also involved, but I'm not like a mic. I mean, Mike's great, but yeah, I'm sure he's a fine fellow, but Miro, I thought this would be cool. We can get, maybe we can get mirror on the podcast, right? Like we're wrestling fans. We are big Rousset people. We have all the merge. We've cheered him for years. This guy wastes more time arguing with fans online. And like responding to haters and not I'm like Miro com like you chose to be involved in fan controlled football. Right. Presumably like, I don't know if they pay these guys or if they're, I don't know what that relationship looks like. But you have chosen to be a part of this. I like we are trying to reach out to you to like, would you like to come on and talk about fantasy football? No response yet. He's arguing with people like, why are you deleting tweets that are talking about me? C'mon coward. Come on. Yes. I don't understand why we're not even healed. We're not even healing on you mural. We just wanted like chat and get, get like the word out there about fan controlled football. And we figure like, You're a great talker. We know you're a great talker. You weren't able to showcase. As great as you were in the WWE, but come on the Mark cast and let's chat about the fan controlled football. It's very easy. I mean, I learned my lesson with Charmin Jones. Like I am not trying to mess around with guys. Right. I reach out, I go, Hey, Miro, you know where we're at? You know, X about Mark Hass. We're trying to cover this thing. It's crazy to me. So originally, because earlier in the week I saw that mural was on cameo and we're not going to pay me Euro. We're not going to do that. But my idea originally was going to be Miro charges, whatever it is, 120 bucks or 200 bucks or whatever to go on Twitter, or they go on cameo and do it then. I was going to say, Hey, mural. We'll do they donate back to charity? Maybe you want to come on, right. I'm not going to pay me or they come on to promote like Miro step, but I would gladly help support the charity if marijuana to do that. But now, like I'm off that, like I'm totally off, like Miro is a coward. And he just I'm like you waste all this time, like arguing with people on Twitter. It's like I don't get it. And you liked the wild days. ASIS Jersey. They released the jerseys today. As we record this, you liked the wild days, his Jersey, maybe we switched to wild days. I mean, we're just like Fs on the beasts. I think so I was going to be with the beast. I think the ACEs I, so they released the logos. RB slow-go didn't win the big ugly blob thing that was. So I was kind of sad about the anyway, the beast logo is kind of like this dragon looking thing. It's kind of like a dinosaur, it's kind of weird. So the wild ACE is our, uh, Greg Miller and the kind of funny guys, I listened to them for years, like backward and IGN and all that stuff. And then they laughed and they started kind of funny. So th the, the wild ASIS logo is basically just nixed Arpino, who is like, one of their guys is literally just his face because they all have like a billion Twitter followers said, they're like, Hey, but this one to win. So I'm thinking. And when I said today, I said, Hey, I'm thinking about switching to the wild ACEs, Greg Miller retweeted, or whatever responded to me and was like, come on over, you know, the water's fine. So Miro is a coward and we might be all in, on, on the wildlife. Excuse shirt mural is a coward. Aye. I liked that idea of Miro is a coward. And I want that to be the episode title today. Miro. Is it mirror, the coward or Miro is a coward. Miro is a coward. Okay. Is that cool. Can we do that? It's done. Miro is a coward. You're always a guy, but I'm going to take it back. If you just come on the show. Like gladly, gladly. I am very fair weather on this right now. I could go either way. I, I tweeted back at Greg. I said, our loyalties for this team are very much dependent on who comes onto the XFL. Mark asked to promote their team first. But, uh, did you, did you see the logos? I might try to put this up on the video. If I remember, I did forget one of the rock tweets last week. I apologize about that. Um, we have the glacier boys. It's like a, it's like a polar bear is glacier Boyz. Is that like, I'm so cool. Like ice. That looks like a beer label. It looks like a beer label. It does it does. Do you do we do we, I mean, it's cool. I think it's but is that like the polar bear glacier? Am I missing like a pop culture reference here? I don't think you are. And that's the busy. Yeah. And it's like, Quavo, this is the key. It's not like I, you know, like, I'm all, I'm all like ice icy, stunting. Yeah. I think that's what it means. Okay. So we got glacier boys. We've got the BESE. It's I don't like this at all. I don't like the colors. I don't like the, anything about the bees. Yeah. It's terrible. The blob would have won. The blob would have been better. Great. It would have been totally like ridiculous, but yeah. Yeah, it's fan controlled football. So we got the bees and then we've got the wild ACEs. So this is the one, like it's literally, it's like neck scarf, peanut, like, I'll put, I'll find a photo, but it's literally just him with a beard. And they said, Hey, we want this to be our logo. And so all their people voted. And then the zapper is, is terrible. This is like awful, awful, awful, awful. Graphic design is my passion. This is ridic, these logos. Aren't that great? Yeah. I'm sorry. I, I, I liked the wild days, his line. Um, where is it then? I want to find the. I'm looking at these now, though, it looks like they're, they're catering these logos to like the video game market. Like these are logos that video gamers would have as their little Twitch logos. Did you delete my, uh, my, uh, we gotta look at the Jersey still. I was going to say, I think you cleared it cleared out because I clicked the link and it was deleted. It said this tweet has been deleted. Yeah, they messed up. So when the fan. So football originally tweeted the thing out today, though. Like, Hey everybody vote. The link was totally dead. And so I like responded to on my K guys, like, you might want to fix this before you. Uh, so we've got, we've got the jerseys here. I'm telling you is that there's three variants for fourteens. I would buy like 10 of these right now. Don't tell Dorothy, but I mean, these are like really cool. Listens to the Mark House. And she's going to know in like 24 hours. Do you need me to send you this? Are you going to look at this? I just posted it in the Google doc. Of flipping Google doc. So the glacier Boyz, we've got three different ones. Their colors are blue and white and red. So number one is like this gradient variant. So it's like blue at the top and it's got like these cool shoulder, like wing things and then down to a red, uh, the second one is like a GB kind of like fade on the side. Are you looking at this? You see this? Which one? And we're looking at number two and then number three has got the cool like side panels, like besides like. For the glacier Boyz jerseys. I mean, these are pretty cool. What do you think about these? The glacier Boyz like the light blue ones look like the Puerto Rican flag. A little bit to me. I can see that. Uh, if you had to vote for one of these, would you vote for one, two or three? I'd refer to, I like the light blue. Yeah, I've always liked the light blue scheme. The gradients are getting a lot of love on there, but yeah, I would either go one or two on that. Three is cool at the side panels, but that rad is kind of a little lot. Um, the zappers, I think these are all really cool. Really cool. Uh, the gradients looked best to me. If you're going to go a second choice. The second one is the second choice for me. I don't like the site. It looks like a van Halen guitar on the side. It does it does. Again, it reminds me of my John senior Jersey, my, my old school. Like cammo one, whether it's the. Where the doctor with economics and he had the chemo and it kind of like where the sides have. They, it kind of reminds me of that, but yeah, I just have been to have an old school. John's SEMA Jersey. I have many jobs. Oh, hi, Mark. Uh, but yeah, if they're cool though, I, cause I hate this Apres logo, but I think all of these look really cool. I think that the red or that don't like the orange with the yellow chest, I think it was pretty cool. Uh, for the bees, these are all terrible. Terrible. Yep. Don't like him. I, they, they tweeted at the first one. Number one that they go, what do you think about this? I said, uh, the Tampa Bay Vipers want their Jersey back. That's accurate. That's completely accurate. He comes screaming, everything that's terrible. I don't like it. Okay. Green and like other greens don't look good. Like Jersey people don't. I mean, Two is cool. Cause you've kind of got the beast, like thing on the shoulder pads. So I kind of liked that. I mean, if you had to pick one that, that green and black, like gradient one for them. The only time Green's work with something similar to green is when it's like a dark blue. Like the Seahawks. I see Hawks like the Mariners. Like the Dragon's that's the only time it works. This is just damn. I could see why you want to switch the wild days as these jerseys. These jerseys just say Vegas to me. Like you're awesome. Like you would just see this team playing in Las Vegas. You're like, okay, it's the Las Vegas team. I mean, I don't think I could pick one of these. I think I would want all three. I mean, these, I would buy all three of these right now. If they had them on sale. I prefer the blacks, but yeah, I could see all three being definite, you know, it's, it's hard to pick one of the ACEs for sure. That the black with like this. Like th this stuff going on up here at the top, like the shoulder pad area is very, very cool. I mean, these are, these are great colors. This is everything about the team. Like I said, it's, it's. Kind of funny it's them and they're, they're big and loud and stuff. Uh, so that's nuts. Solid solid. So, so yeah, so fan controls were all in, um, they're, they're saying they're going to be, it's kinda like arena football. You're going to be able to vote right now. The voting's on, you can go on to it's like fcf.io, their website. It's kind of weird, but you can go on and do all that. And boat and then, um, yeah, they're getting there. They're rolling through it. They're going to start in February. It's going to be like six weeks of a football and it's gonna be cool and we're going to go. Right. Cool. Very cool. And, uh, let's uh, before we get into the, uh, I guess garbage time portion of our show, I'll, let's just touch on the spring league stuff. What's happening with that lately. Uh, so just a couple of quick tidbits. So. Josh it's supposedly a Josh Davis have excelled in the sub, said he talked to Brian Woods, uh, earlier this week. Supposedly the game is going to be the championship game that got canceled member. They canceled week four of the spring league, and then the championship game was supposed to be last night on Wednesday. We're recording on Thursday. I should be flying back literally from San Antonio right now. And so the game is going to be December 15. They're seeing that it's going to be in Orlando. So. I love Paul. It's kind of one of those things that, you know, yes, the championship game is still happening, but do we care when it's December 15th? Uh, I don't think anybody cares. I mean it's, it's like, it's not a thing now. I don't. You know what I mean? If I could turn the man, it'd be like, if you like stopped the NFL season and then played like super. In a month. Yeah. I don't think anybody cares anymore. I think we're all checked out at this point and no, no fat, no offense to like Brian or any of the hard work that any of the people have been doing with the spring league. I just think the season, the bus let's just try it again next year. Yeah. I would just, yeah, I would focus on like new efforts as opposed to trying to do this. The cool thing was though. And the alternate football league, football, Twitter account. It's all football. Oh my gosh. Cause I want to get it right. We alternate football scouting report at all. F B scout. He messaged me this morning that, because this is what he does. He was looking at the spring league Wikipedia page. And when they were talking about the championship game, supposedly still happening and it was kind of like, they ha you know how they do like. The history of the organization. Okay. 2017, 2018, 2020. Then they were talking about the controversies of all this year. And what happened with Corona virus? And we got credited. We got a credit for. Yeah, which I thought was cool. I got it. I mean, I don't know anything about that stuff, but he, uh, anyway, I just thought that was cool at the basically, cause Brian came on our podcast and said that they were going to do the championship game and all the plans. Uh, that they, we got a citation on Wikipedia. So we're doing real journals. You woke up this morning and we're like, dude, we got a citation. I was like, Oh, hi, Mark. But I will say. Ah, nothing takes the steam out of getting anything cool quicker than when you tweet that. And then someone else goes, I also have like six of those, Josh. I love you. I love Josh. I don't even know if he listens to this far in the podcast. Like. You don't have to one up everybody all the time. Like Josh is a great journalist. Left him he's been on the show. I love it. Nothing is more like. To like, be excited about that and be like, I also have that times, like six. That's great. And, and tweet about that tomorrow. Don't tweet, don't like retweet my tweet. That'd be like, if you won an Emmy and then I was like, yeah, well I also, which I haven't won in it. Maybe I, well, I also want to thing, you know, Just let people have their moment. People have their moment, Josh, and, uh, you know, we've got our verification, so it's all good. I mean, I don't want to, there's no hate, but it's just the way. I'm just like, man, just let me have like 10 minutes, 10 minutes. I was like, well, This was cool. Like we did the work. Brian came on, we did the whole thing. Any other words, understand something like in my work, in my line of work as a journalist at K TLA, like the only times my stuff has been cited in Wikipedia articles, I just it's like. This is a starting fledging thing. Like this is the first time we've been cited in Wikipedia. Just let it be like you don't have to like, yeah, exactly. Don't be the Mr. Me-too. That's just like, not like a me too movement by like, Oh, be too. Oh, me too. Oh, me too. Don't do that. Just under that. So you say you have Wikipedia credits. Yeah. I mean, there's, there's different like Wikipedia sites that have linked to stories that I've shot. So in, in essence, yes, that's, that's, you know, that's me contributing to a Wikipedia thing, but it's not like a big deal. Well, I also have. Credit now. So there you go. It's not, it's just not, doesn't even matter anymore. All right. For the audio podcast, people were, sorry, we gotta take a little break here and, uh, add some commercials in and then we'll be right back with our, I guess with our garbage segments. So enjoy that. All right. We're back. This is like the bonus. This is the real, like, this is like the, the, the funny thing, the, the, the garbage segments, so to speak. Um, speaking of garbage, someone's garbage found their way into a wheelhouses Sunday, brunch. Um, we actually took that segment from Sunday brunch. We're going to play it on wheelhouse this week as well. So read, doesn't have to pay the $3 to hear the Sunday. Brunch read will be guest starring on this week's episode of wheelhouse. Uh, before he has to take a nap. You had a little run in on that? Yeah. We'll and I had a fun little segment where, uh, I bought an exit fell hat and then shipped it to him and he bought a wheelhouse hat and shipped it to me. And it was funny. Cause I heard on the podcast, you go, Oh, well I saw you bought another hat today on a hoodie. And I was like, Cause, you know, I know, right. I mean, you see when people are buying stuff and said, but then we trekked and we circumvented the system. See it wouldn't have it. Wouldn't have like raised a red flag if we'll bought another hat. Cause I'm just like, Oh, Oh, hi Mark. About wheelhouse. Because of course we'll only buys the only person that buys Blas murder. She has, well, apparently. We'll wait about a Mark asked that you hadn't been like something that was a skew. If you no, no, no, no. I hadn't bothered well, Yeah. Yeah. If you had a bought a wheelhouse out I've. I'm like, okay, something's up. Yeah. Some days. Cause cause we could care less. I'm getting read at read actually has been very supportive. The show recently, I'm not going to give you some prompts here and if will had brought a Mark cast hat, I would be like, well, we'll just support in the Marquez. Cause that's what will does. Cause. Believe it or not. Will's a very supportive guy and, uh, So, yeah, I w I wouldn't have raised any red flags, but if you bought the wheelhouse out, I'd be like, okay, something's up. Something something's going on. Some kind of chicanery is happening here. So yeah. Check out will house this week. That'd be good and I'll check it out. I listened to the one today, but yeah, I got a guest spot on that. So that will be fun. Congratulations on that you made wheelhouse. I didn't think we would ever get to a point so early. Where the imaginary of beef between the two shows. Disciplined enough to have you show up, but Hey. You know, I'm trying, we're adults, we're growing. There's always a constant flow of growth. So. Nice. Nice. Are you gonna, are you gonna eat this, uh, Dwan Dwan? Santa Claus. Oh, my God, this is terrible. This. Santa Claus. Is a thing. Okay. Dwayne Johnson is a name. You can't just combine words and have it be Dwan Dwan. That's not even a word. I don't know how to pronounce this, but yeah, Dwayne Jones, Duane's got like this new, the Rock's got this new holiday ice cream. It's terror, mana flavored ice cream. Shocking. Yeah to shotgun. And I want you to play it so that the Twitter one I'd like you to play it. Maybe if we can play the audio from that, I don't want to get flight, but, uh, this is not, you can't just combine word. I'll get one Dwayne Johnson. So I'm Dwana clause. Like that's not a thing. Whereas the Twitter thing that you're talking about is in the link here. This first one, this Knowles. No. I got it here. I'll do it. No holes at all. Holiday treat it's his life of alcohol infused ice cream. Your gums, your gums gloves, right? This is terrible. The freezer to deliver you the world's best ice cream. Coming in you, I guess. Even tying out flavor. You got us the first time. It is called [unknown]. Tara mandala spiked eggnog it's normal. That's terrible. Yes. The egg nog. I'm glad I saw this. I was like, Oh, this is the lead story this week in the market. As in Paul. Absolutely not absolutely. Uh, you know, the rock. You know, we got to have whatever he's, he's killing it, but now he w he was funny though, in the video, when he opens the fridge, it's just like 16 bottles of tear mana. And then like all these little pints of ice cream, like, Oh yeah, I'm sure the rock just that's all he has in the freezer. I'm sure. He just either. [unknown] all he does eat ice cream, drink Terremoto. Apparently it's all, he's doing cheat days happening all the time. Like. No. And I'm sorry. Argue with the wall. Eggnog is gross. Oh, Just go first. Still not flavored tequila, ice cream. Could not, could not be a worst. Okay. Eggnog only goes with Rob stop. And it's gross. Anyway, stop. There we go. We're done. We're done talking about this. Are you going to watch? I know we've talked about this before. Are you going to watch young rock? No. I watched something called everybody hates Chris, so I'm good. This was quite this got everywhere. I saw this rock rock. The rock had a float about was funny though. It was like him. Yeah, the famous picture of the rock, like back in the 90s, it's like him leaning on the thing and he's got the Fanny pack and like everyone that's. So spoiler alert too for Halloween next year. That is also a way to get, if you want to get retweeted by the rock also dress up like cam as 19, was it 1995 or whatever, like the rock he's got, like the curly hair and the Fanny pack, but he retweets all those too. So by tear mana tequila, he'll retweet you. Or I dress up like the rock for Halloween and he'll retweet you. That's what happens. That's how you're going to. Retweet or somebody apparently runs his Twitter account. We'll retweet you as Reed is completely stolen. My thunder. I'm very disappointed in this. We talked about jerseys. I want to say this. Okay. NHL Adidas. Oh yeah, you cowards release more reverse retros, please. No. I want to ask you about that. So they NHL right. Getting them for the season. They made all these cool retro jerseys, right? Yep. They just out of them, is that what's going on? I don't know if they've released the devil's yet. I think they're trickling them out and it's frustrating because it's like release them all right now, because I am, I've been dying cause Kevin Smith film director, Kevin Smith. Has a reverse retro devil's cause he's from New Jersey. And I'm like, dude, I'm going to kill you and take your Jersey because I want that green of RIT. I know it looks like a Christmas tree. I know already. I know. Stop. Don't don't ask me. I understand it looks like a Christmas tree, but I love that thing. You want it? I did buy a reverse retro, the Las Vegas one. So. Don't tell, I don't tell a James Frost, the wins that you can find that don't tell who James and your voice chains. My boy, James. From there, from there, from our, from our wrestling group. Oh, Oh yeah, no. I don't think James is a huge Vegas Mark. Uh, Vegas. What's your recall, Mark? Hey. It gets cold nights. Oh, so, um, speaking of a reverse retros too, since you are getting a hockey team, Yup. Congratulations. You've got a crack and tickets, your crack Mark, as you also, uh, you want to enable screen sharing real quick so I can show you something. They screwed up my video out of it, please. Don't honestly, it, it, it, it gives it like this weird resolution. Here's what here's, what's gonna happen. I'm gonna pop this in the Google doc and I'm going to show you because this reverse retro thing is probably not going to go away. So I'm gonna pop this real quick. In the Google doc to give you a look at what your reverse retro is going to look like probably soon. With the, uh, that's hot. And the crack and talents. It's like a Freddy Krueger. It is. They're going to do that with a crack in colors. That's going to be your reverse retro, I guess. What you would, you would roll with that. Yeah. Yeah, no. And last time we did the screen-sharing. It wasn't like it made the resolution of the video, like 5,000 by like 2000 or something like final cut was like, I don't even know how to handle this. Fair enough then. You're seeing on your side. Can you, can you actually put it in right. Yeah, we'll drop a day. Dorothy said that to you last time she was, she didn't put in that when we were talking about the reverse retro, she goes, you didn't put in the New York one that Paul was talking and I'm like, okay. I forgot. I forgot that. I'm sorry. Okay. You also forgot to put the Bronx tweet on honor. I play them on all the promos. I did forget. So anyway, um, yeah, that's probably what your reverse renters are going to look like for on there. To keep the link on their cars. Oh, my bad, my bad. Okay, there we go. There we go. I'll put that on no edits. We're going. Yeah. And then we got a couple last tidbits here. Um, This is funny. On Twitter. Someone tweeted Chad Johnson, they go shadow just. They go, Hey, who would you want to have to be at your Thanksgiving? And he goes, Jerry, that's just think of. Why not. I'm not just dinner for one. Who would, who would you want to have? Who, uh, wha what NFL or XFL star, where do you want to have at your Thanksgiving? Uh, Glenn Glenn Gilbert. The reason why I said Glenn, go Bernie. It's cause he just barely messaged me. Cause we're talking about California shutting down. He just says brutal. That's always. I didn't know you and Glen were such good fans. Maybe you should have him. Does he watch the SFL? He had come on the podcast. I'll I'll hit them up and see, cause he does do the pod cone and won't do a podcast except for his own. Okay. Maybe he'll do like the Bruce Prichard one or whatever, but he'll never do a podcast that doesn't register, but I think we can get Glenn on ours. So I'll hit him up and I'll say, Glenn, you want to come on and shoot the shoot, the crap. And, uh, Yeah, and then we can play the shoot, the breeze, and we can play the clip, right. Offend Glenn up. It's your boy, wait, I've never stepped in a wrestling ring Keller and Glen can know that, you know, Despite our disagreements about political things. Uh, I actually like Lynn a lot. I think he's a very smart guy. In the, in the world of wrestling. So are you gonna watch the rock TV show? Did we. Did you say you're going to watch that. I mean, I think I'm going to have to check it out for the podcast, right? I mean, I think that's clearly going to be something that we talk about. That sounds like what's going to happen. I mean, you can watch it and give me the review. I just, I have no, I guess I just helped him to have any. It looks cool. It looks, I saw some, they were showing like some behind the scenes of like them shooting and, you know, they show him learning to wrestle and like itself. Yeah. I mean, the Rock's got this whole wrestling family and you know, his dad was a wrestler and he's grabbed by you all. I mean, I think it could be good to have some WWE ties and, you know, if you see Rocky Sr, you know, doing stuff, I mean, right. I mean, it's not like the rock. You know what I want to see the John scene. The young John scene in the movie, like, no, but I mean, the rock has a ton of history, right? The wrestling industry. And I think you could have a lot of run-ins, you know, The photo that I saw, the still photo from the back behind the scenes was whoever's playing under. The giant is picking. Yeah. Rock up and have those like, wow, they're going to incorporate the smarter, the giant stuff. And I, I don't know if you guys have seen anybody. Who's seen the Andre, the giant documentary on HBO. I think it's on network now. That's a tremendous documentary. It's a tremendous look inside Andre. The giant. Uh, his life as short as it was, it was, it was cool that we got to see him. I know Reed was probably too young to understand, you know, cause I'm seven years older, eight years older. So I grew up watching Andre matches, so I I'm a little bit more familiar, but, um, it's, it's a great watch. If you haven't seen the Andre, the giant documentary. Please take time to check it out. It's great. Nope. [unknown] what do you want? The prenup? Uh, your boy chasing Nick, gone from the bachelorette. Dislike dust in the wind. Poor chasten. I mean, Brandon Silver's, I'm sorry. Um, I have been. Howard's come on the Mark Hass prove you're not the same person I have been trying, man. I have been tweeting to chase or not tweet, and I've been on Instagram with Jason and I posted it. We don't. This foldable out. Like when I watch the bachelor and dumb stuff, like I'll teach, sticking a photos and like, do you know on, um, Put them on Instagram or whatever. And she's Nick I'm like, okay, what's Jason doing? Not coming on the Markcast right. I mean, what's he doing now? He's off the show. He can't do anything. He is posting photos of the Mandalorian. Well, if he's watching the Mandalorian, I mean, and, and the big news, the Mandalorian spoiler alert, Rosario, and showed up. Rosario Dawson's there. Have you watched the Mandalorian? Get into it, dude, you're missing out. Sasha banks is on the Mandalorian. You Mark. No. It's like they made this thing and then now it's like, okay, we didn't call them. I don't like, Hey, we didn't call baby. You know that anything for a year. And now it's, whatever it is. That's like a big deal. It's like, so this made up thing that you didn't call a name to it. And now you're calling this made up thing, a made up name, and now that's like news. It is cause Mandalorians one of the best shows out there right now. Maybe you and Josh gave us could talk about the Mandalorian. Maybe you just need to watch it. Maybe just because to get to around a Sasha banks, be like, okay, Sasha is here. I don't have Disney plus, sorry. Dude. Oh, wait, you don't have Verizon. That's right. Because Verizon gave you a free year of Disney plus. Yeah, no, it's not, not going to happen. I try to you try to sell Dorothy, I'm watching the Mandalorian. What is this? Have we seen the guy's face yet. You don't see the guy's face. You never see the guy's face. You're going to at some point, right. No, I don't think you do. Wow. I don't know. You have to see his face to like the show read? Well, I just think it's like, again, they just making this up. It's not. Everything is pretty much made up 75% of the stuff that you watch has made you think the bachelorette is real. That stuff is scripted to get out of here. But they like, they just made this. I don't know. I just it's like this arbitrary. Oh, I just saw, Oh, they call it baby Yoda raga do. Or what was it? Grow go stupid. Call it. You could call it poop, Maine. However, I think. And yeah. In that Wikipedia article where we got. Corey poop. [unknown] Corey Johnson as a player in the Wikipedia history, us. Uh, you call it poo Bay. That was a good reference there. Nice little throwback, but you didn't check it. The Mandalorian. It's actually a really good show. It's actually, you don't really have to know much about star Wars. I don't know if you're a big star Wars Mark as a kid. It doesn't seem like you are, because if you were, you'd probably be all over this Mandalorian thing. I mean, I've seen them. I mean, Disney plus has all the Marvel movies. I mean, you buy it, buy it for like a month and just catch up on this stuff and then didn't discontinue it. We'll give you a free trial. Actually we'll give you for trial. Real quick on our button. This segment, I, when, when I was in middle school attack of the clones came out and my friend at the annual, his dad worked for Microsoft. So they got like a private screening. He got to leave school to go watch, like attack the colon, you know, we're all like so jealous, right? Like we can't believe like Nathaniel gets to go skip school, get to go see this. You know, and that movie's terrible. Right? So then we go that Friday, we got openings, but he got to see it like on Tuesday or whatever. So we go Friday. I grant after schoolwork. The budget and we're, you know, all week he's been talking about, this was the best movie. This is so good. Like restating, there we go. This is the worst crap we've ever seen anywhere. I was sitting there making fun of it in the theater. I'm like, this is terrible. He turns like, shut up, man. The theater is good. And then you were like, Oh, hi, Mark. And that was, that was that. Yeah. Uh, this last little tidbit, just, this is random. Remember like week two of the podcast. And we talked about the NFL guy getting a needle shoved in his rep. Yep. He's not, he's not going to Sue. He's not going to Sue. No, it says he, it says sources say that QB Tyro Taylor has declined to file a grievance against the team. This doctor is after painkilling shot mishap in mid-September led to a puncture in his lung. I would assume. There you go. He had 60 days to inform the team and he's not doing it. I thought that was like, cause we talked about that like week one or two. I mean, that was, that was the old Mark has stopped, but I saw Ian Ralph. So rap sheet. Put it out there. Uh, yeah, I, I don't know why he didn't Sue. I would have done it. And that's all your, your career is already short, as it is, get all the money you can. Yeah. That Ian Rapoport. He does all his stuff now. Um, in like his, he's got an apartment. You know, it's all virtual. He has the worst. Audio for someone that is on like every show all the time. I see him on everything. Talking about football staff. He has like a fax machine or something running in the background, like, cause he has a mic on like, he has a lot of my gun and I almost wanted to tweet at him with my verify that count. I'd be like, can you please unplug whatever the stupid thing is? It's like right off camera. Cause I that's. All I do is I hear him and it's like in the background. The fan, maybe. It's really terrible for someone that's on national TV all the time. He really needs to get his act together. Someone needs to talk to them like from operations and be like, dude, turn that crap off. I don't know what it is. He's on there. He has a loft bike it's on there all the time. I can't figure it out. Insane. So would that being said, we want to thank you again. XFLshow.com/merch XFLshow.com/review. Buy the merch, review the show, please. We appreciate it. And we thank you again for listening tune in next week.

XFL Markcast - Episode 16 Fan Controlled Football Fandom (ft. Sheena Quick)

All right, let's get through this Google doc. A lot of stuff today. Yeah, we, we always have a lot of stuff. Read. You find a lot. There's not a lot of filler today. I feel like, I feel like I did a good job. We got a couple of little tidbits at the end, but it's a lot of XFL stuff. Uh, we got fan controlled football coming up. We've got spring league are big update about our big bombshell episode last week. So a lot of stuff to get to. All right, so let's get into it. Huh? PJ Walker of course started this week, this last week for the Carolina Panthers. We've got a sheen of quick coming up here in just a second to talk about that. Uh, was there something else you want to talk about before that though? Was there something that was cooler than, than PJ Walker starting? I mean, I think maybe it might've been cooler, but I dunno. It's, it's your call? Uh, no, I think PJ was really exciting and I, it was, um, Oh, was I supposed to go? Where am I supposed to go at this fine. You want to talk about the Sounders and winning the winning the playoffs. We know that stop. But that's not the coolest thing that happened. I think. Oh, I know where you're going. Fine. Let's say that half of this week. We got Paul, Mr. Celebrity here on the podcast. We'll get to that. Okay. Yeah, let's go, let's go to PJ stuff out. So I, Sunday morning was crazy. I'm sitting there running, it's like an hour before the game I see on Twitter, you know, Teddy starting and we're all like lamenting and then Teddy's not starting and we're all. And, and it was crazy. And I told her she, and I have to think it was like a mad sweat for me to try to find, uh, like a feed of this game. Like I'm on. I texted him like how, how do people watch these games? Like I would have paid any amount of money. Yeah, $100 for the month just to be able to get those games. And I found like NFL bite.com. Like this computer afterward for like viruses. I asked whether the XFL news have risers. I think Matthew suggested that. And I said, should I use an incognito browser when I go on here though? Like, but I, but I got it on my iPad and then Airstream did to the TV and I was able to watch it. And that it was exciting. Did you watch the game, would you think? I watched bits and pieces. I was kind of like a busy handling, some other stuff that I, that I had going around my house. Cause I'm like reorganizing everything and that's still. It's still always people make fun of my office for constantly being in the flux of. Uh, construction, but I think I've got it this time. I think I got to figure it out and this is going to look a lot different coming up in the upcoming weeks. But, uh, from what I saw, I saw some great stuff. I did see some issues. I saw that red zone, one of those red zone interceptions, there were two, I believe I saw one of those reds on their assumptions. I was like, ah, come on, PJ. It's like, It's like a feel good story. You everybody's rooting for this guy. Everybody's rent for this. Yeah. I mean, eh, yeah. Years and years he got caught like a dozen times, you know, star then went to the XFL. Uh, came back. I will say a couple of tidbits. So after the game, uh, our friend Michael Payne. Uh, tweeted at me and he's he? So he had, he had built like a custom PJ Walker, Carolina Jersey. Right. And he was like, Hey, read, like, do you want to pop on this? And so I didn't realize that he had built it and I went onto the Panthers and the Panthers had a PJ Walker. I don't know how new it is. Number six Jersey. And, you know, I popped on that. So I, I think it's coming Monday. I got my PJ Walker, Carolina Panthers Jersey. I'm very excited about it. Like a practice wanted me. It's not like, it's not like a $400 Jersey. It's like a, you know, like the mesh ones. But, uh, but then my other tidbit was, so I was kind of on like a trend that night. And so I was Googling and I was trying to find, uh, like other PJ Walker merge and I found this like sketch Chinese site. And they have a PGA Walker. She sent roughnecks Jersey for like $35. And so I was over and I was watching the pay-per-view, uh, with Michael, we were talking about everything survivor series. And I said, well, like, You pay through the site, you pay through PayPal. So like I'm protected. Like my credit card information is protected, like worst case and not 35 bucks. And then PayPal reimburses me. So I took a flyer on that. It could be like six months. I don't know how long it's gonna take, but I have a PJ Walker. A Carolina Jersey, but then I also have a PJ Walker. Uh, Houston roughnecks, like. How do you, how do you, how do you equate that? Cause your dragons and Mark, how do you have a re uh, roughnecks Jersey in your collection now? Well, it was tough. It's XFL, man. I get sex. XFL. Yeah, I'll still be wearing the dragon stuff to the game, but I think for the podcast, I might do it basically at this point, I'm just paying for bits for the podcast. I'm like, if I can get a PJ Walker Jersey, that's it. That's, you know, five minutes on the podcast. I'm just trying to buy some, buy some, uh, by some fun stuff. So after the game, uh, PJ Walker of course, talks to a Fox sports on, on air. And, uh, let's, let's come into that and just talking about. You know, his, uh, I just his journey. So to set. Jay walk, or you told me before this game that you've been waiting your whole life for this moment. You didn't even know you were going to start until about 90 minutes before let's just start with how it fell down. On the felt amazing just to get an opportunity to go out there and play with the guys, you know, uh, all week. I've been a parent, prepare myself as a starter. You know, just in case my number was called and I just don't want to go out there. Step up for the guys. I know you don't need me to tell you your history, but for everyone who everyone listening, it's quite a big one between. Being on drafted, being a practice squad guy for two years being cut 12 times the accent. What did this mean to you today? It made the world. I meant the world to me today. This will be out here with these guys, man, and just come out here and get a win. It feels great. You know, I credit my teammates. I'll be first played a hell of a game. You know, the office of God stepped up and made plays. So just to come out here with these guys and get those wins. I like to get in there. PJ congratulation. I mean, it's the nicest guy. It's it's hard to root against him. Like we said before, you know, it was said on the week before, you know, how, how this could end up becoming like a Disney, like story, how this guy who has been cut 12 times, it's, it's hard to root against a guy like this. It really is. And it's a really good feel. Feel good story for Carolina. Um, coming into the season they've they haven't had the best, you know, record. They haven't had the best. Time they've. They've gone through some, you know, some definite injury issues on any Christian McCaffrey's out again this week coming up. That's their superstar. Um, and it's, it's, it's a good feel, good story that we, we, I think we need in this time of day where, you know, the pandemic is ruining everything for us and we've got, feel good stories like PJ Walker. So we want to congratulate PJ Greg work this, this last week. Um, and I'm, I'm glad to hear that he's, uh, he's embracing his role and he's ready whenever his number's called. I will say that the biggest takeaway for me, honestly, of all of this, and we've been talking about it in the, in the chats and stuff. And I've, I've tweeted about it. Uh, really surprising that no one from current XFL management. Uh, congratulated PJ. You send out a tweet. I just [unknown]. It's it is crazy to me. You know, the rock did a thing a couple of weeks ago where, um, I think Bleacher report or something who was talking about, uh, you know, PJ's journey and all the years in the rocks, you know, retweet it and was like, you know, well, that's, you know, that's why I bought the league. Is guys guys like PJ. And I'm like, man, the fact that you didn't and Mike Mitchell, we were talking online and he said that basically the XFL is just such a skeleton crew right now that there just was nobody there that like managed social media on that day. I'm like, I don't care, man. Like this. It was a big deal, you know, is it your star XFL quarterback guy? The starting, you know, started the game for the NFL. And got the win. So I was pretty surprised about that. Uh, maybe we can talk about some of the other rocks, social media forte, after we talk to Sheena, is that sound like a good plan? That sounds like a good plan. I just, it, just to your point, that guy was the face of the XFL. Um, it really goes to show that this was a success. In some aspects, even though a guy you. You know, got shut down early and bankruptcy and all the litigation that's going on between Vince and Oliver luck right now. But PJ Walker, having a successful day last Sunday. Goes to show that this thing is going to work. We'll work has worked to some degree. And when it comes back full, full steam ahead. It's something that can be viable. It's it's an alternate. That can be viable and we're looking forward to it. Definitely. Absolutely. Yeah. Proves that it, it it's, you know, mission complete, you know, PJ, when they've probably been in this position, if it hadn't been for the XFL. And I think he killed it. Like, like she, and this is going to talk about, you know, he, he fit in seamlessly and I mean, even though there was a couple of mistakes in there, obviously the interceptions and whatnot, but yeah, I mean, just, you couldn't ask for a better job from him coming in. Uh, like you said with, with 90 minutes notice, I mean, could you imagine that, could you imagine going to bed Saturday night, not knowing if you were starting the game Sunday. I couldn't. Yeah, but I mean, it just goes to show his preparedness, you know, like he, it's not that he didn't, it's not that he didn't. Maybe need to know, but he was prepared. Nonetheless. And, uh, yeah, it's just, it's, it's great. It's a, it's a great way to kind of further that story and, um, You never know, we're going to talk to Sheena queen. Tweak it a quick and a second here and discuss potentially. Um, theories behind maybe giving Teddy a little bit more of a rest. I know Teddy was cleared. He did practice fully today. Um, but maybe, maybe just maybe it's time to maybe think about your investment. Long-term. And if the knees having more issues. Roll PJ out there a little bit more. And see potentially what you might be able to get for him. In terms of other building blocks for your team. Yeah, it got a lot of injuries right now. A lot of QB, you know, you got Teddy, you got drew Brees. You know, we had jumper, I'll go out. It was like, it was like a blood bath the last couple of weeks. I still think Jimmy Garappolo back in, uh, in, uh, San Fran's out too. So, I mean, And Dallas. Are we good to go back to Dallas? Disgusting. Nick Nick Foles to, they don't know if he's going to play on Sunday either. Yeah. It's uh, there's, there's a lot of quarterback holes in the league and this kind of goes to the hole. This isn't like an aftereffect of COVID where we didn't have the preseason to warm these guys up and get them in the flow of things. And we saw a lot of injuries to begin with. We're still seeing some significant injuries now. And, uh, Maybe it's a situation where Carolina just saves their investment goes, let's just pause for a second. Let's let's keep, you know, Let's make sure our $20 million that he's getting paid next year. Doesn't go like into a, into a money pit. And, uh, and protect that. So who knows, who knows what's gonna happen going forward, but with that being said, moving on. You wanna bring in Sheena now? Or do you want to like, yeah, let's go. And had that we'll come back and we'll talk about, uh, talking about, uh, our big Mr. Celebrity on the podcast. Yeah. So after this, we're going to bring, Oh, we're gonna bring in a sheet and a quick right now we're going to pay some bills real quick. She knows. Join us. After the break and we'll discuss more Panther stuff. How are you doing Sheena? Excellent. How are you guys? We're great. We're great. There's a big, big weekend for us. XFL fans and watching the Carolina Panthers. I didn't, I did not realize until about 30 minutes before the game was going to start. I didn't, we weren't going to get the game in Seattle. So I had to like, go on and find like a illegal MFL, like streaming. Get it from my, from my iPad to my TV was quite the like freak out moment. I, how was the weekend for you? That was great. Um, we got to see. What PJ Walker is about at the NFL level. Um, you know, like I said before, in my pre-game, we've seen like flashes of him, but to be fair, the situations when he went into the game and be like fourth and 10 or. They'd be pen back. We didn't really get to see what he has to offer in Sunday, changed all of that. What were your thoughts? I thought he played well, I thought he was solid. Um, I didn't want to get ahead of myself. And I think a lot of people would agree with, with me. In that, you know, the Detroit defects is in like the bottom quadrant in almost every defense of category going into last weekend. And coach role said after the game that he felt competent that either will Grier or PJ Walker. Both would have played well under those circumstances. So again, we have such a small sample size, but I thought he did well. He definitely had a couple of issues, you know? I was watching with a lot of the XFL guys and we were tweeting and staff and, you know, he had a couple of those interceptions. And I think it was you at tweeted, you know, the post game that, that the coach had said, you know, in a different circumstance that really could have cost us just because, you know, I mean, you don't want to throw a two pigs. Yeah, especially. Yeah. And he has it. But I did to be fair on that. And I say, you know, the Panthers are three and seven entering the game. Let's not put all the blame on PJ for some of the struggles maybe you guys have had. Right. Um, you know, the red zone struggles have actually kind of subsided, but what I did think was kind of cool on Sunday. Is that it ended their third quarter drought. Depending on several games without scoring a touchdown in the third quarter. That's kind of a situation or a scenario that's very hard to simulate in practice. You know, you have your red zone offense. You have your two minute office, but you don't have your third quarter. So that was pretty, pretty good to see them get over that hump. Matt rule said they didn't do anything differently. They just did things better. I read that too. Uh, what was the, what was the, uh, I guess reaction online? Yeah. You talked about tapping into Panthers, Twitter. We haven't quite done that yet. Uh, what was the reaction online you were seeing about, uh, the feedback that, that Panthers fans were giving towards PJ's performance? Everyone was excited. Everyone was pumped. Um, you know, the story behind these guys before they hit the play and feel makes it very easy for you to root for them. Um, I didn't see any PJ detractors. Everyone was very excited to see what he had to offer, because like I said before going into Sunday, there was like a almost non-existent sample size. We really didn't know. What he had to offer on the NFL level. And then the XFL I saw that he was leading in passing yards and touchdowns. You know, when the season was suspended. So I think he had a really, really warm reception. I saw some people that have followed me today. You know, I have PJ Walker, QB one as their screen names and things like that. So I think a lot of fans are very excited that he got a shot and got a chance to see, you know, got a chance to show what he had to offer. And the wind was just the icing on the cake. He broke a five game losing streak. I, uh, the, the thing that killed me the most was, you know, heading into the week, we knew Teddy was hurt. And it just was the fact that they wouldn't make a decision. Right. Matt Rowe wouldn't make a decision. You know, it was day off. Cause I was, I was on Twitter that morning and you know, he was going to play, then he wasn't and he was active. He was on the field, kind of doing the testing, his knee and stuff. I mean, are we living in dying that much by Teddy Bridgewater? That it has to be, that we couldn't have just made that decision on Friday and just kinda like let PJ now, I mean, why was it such a last minute decision? Um, actually, he had been cleared by doctors to play. Um, Matt rural felt like it was just. He, he made the decision to pull him. He didn't tell us why it was so late. You know, I know a lot of, you know, A lot of them were on the sideline, watching him throw and watching him warm up and things like that. Again, he was medically cleared to play, but he did. They didn't want to take the chance now, as far as them not knowing until. Because all three quarterbacks were active and on the field. And warming up. So. I'm not sure what went into that last minute decision other than the fact that he was medically cleared. And it was a personal coaches decision that, you know, ultimately decided whether or not he will play. We're looking at, you're looking at the Panthers being, I think they're four and seven now. Yeah. Yeah. Um, this is not really a season in which the Panthers are gonna contend. Is there any school of thought behind maybe sitting Teddy for the rest of the year? And potentially looking at these two quarterbacks, both Greer and PJ Walker has potential trade bait. For another team that that might need someone. Now the first half of that. Um, I believe Teddy's gonna play Sunday. He was, he was, he was a full participant today. Um, you know, all signs point to him actually playing on Sunday. But, um, as far as trade bait, I don't think they're in a position to trade any quarterbacks away right now. I know, I'd know that Teddy is probably off the table. I don't see any team. Taking on that salary hit for next season, for sure. I think he makes like 20 million next season. So, um, I was just, I'm curious if, to see if maybe potentially they could, they could roll one of these two quarterbacks out to kind of give other teams a look at them and potentially get some pieces to help them next season. It would be particularly difficult for them to try to shop will Greer. Um, while, you know, he and PJ have kind of, you know, Alternating, not even necessarily back and forth like PJ on wheel on each week. And you never know who's going to be the backup quarterback until maybe the day before the game. But, um, going into Sunday, we'll Greer had not taken a gain snap all season PJ had. He had taken a few, you know, here and there. Um, like I said before, you know, facing fourth and forever pin on your own 15 yard line type situations. But, um, there's not enough film on wheel Greer to shop him. In my opinion. What did I just personally, what did you think? I w. If you had seen a lot or a little, a PJ on the rough necks and, you know, he was like the MVP of the league by far, you know? And they were, that, that team was just crushing that when everything went to a halt, a lot of people predicted that they would just, you know, go undefeated this season. What did you, did you think? I mean, I obviously he fit in, I mean, did, did he fit in, what did you think of kind of how he played and how the team rallied around them? I think you've been in well, um, one of the advantages that having someone like Teddy Bridgewater on your roster is someone who had to be ready when the opportunity came back around to him, particularly with the States, after an injury that a lot of people. In his career. In Teddy, more so than a QB one mentor. You have someone that literally lived be ready, be ready, be ready. And that's something that he has drilled into the media as, as one of the top. The main topic when he's in the quarterback room is getting these guys ready. These guys, meaning we'll Greer and PJ Walker. I felt like, um, PJ stepped into the role seamlessly. You could tell that the receivers and everything are comfortable there. There weren't a lot of timing issues. That were not a lot of timing issues. You saw the 52 yard bomb. To DJ Moore. So you wouldn't have known that there was any difference. Chemistry-wise like the offensive line, the cadence, all of that stuff. It seemed like they had been playing together all season. You know, if you take away the end zone and exceptions. I think he had a very solid game. What would you say he. I want to say he. He was perfect on passing attempts at one point in the game. I don't want don't quote me on the number because I forget, but, um, I remember looking at it and yeah. Really high QBR early on, so he didn't have to get any jitters out. I didn't feel like I saw any jitters. Post game. What was the, what was the general feeling around the players that you might've talked to regarding BJ's performance? Um, everyone, you know, what's funny is these guys with COVID, we don't get to see a lot. Of practice as much as we normally would, or, or, or that you would just have to kind of rely on Gainesville, but a lot of them were just like, Oh, you know, we expected him to be in, to come in and be ready to, we expected that. That's what the expectation is. It's always next guy up. And, um, Peter here at a really cool story about a dream that his mom had had a year and a half to two years back, that he was starting for the Carolina Panthers. And at the time. He was in Indianapolis. So he said that on Sunday, both of their dreams came true. He started for, for the Carolina Panthers. Wow. It was definitely a long time and that, you know, and with the interceptions and everything, I mean, I think I. Mike Mitchell, I think, but the stat he's the XFL rider, you know, when PJ made yeah. Ma maybe that wasn't a good pass or maybe that was a mistake. I think Matthew Stafford had like 154 starts, you know, to PJ's first start, you know, trying to go in. And so, I mean, there is going to be some learning. Yeah. Even with the jitters and stuff, I mean, you just can't. I think he did well as he could for literally first game NFL star at middle of the season, you know, the Alliance or otherwise, you know, I agree. I agree. I think that's a fair assessment. All right. And then, uh, so obviously Teddy is probably going to play this week. Um, PJ, just going back to back up and, and is that what w what were kind of expecting. Um, that's yeah, that's, that's what we're kind of expecting. Matt role was very adamant. He's like, look, this is Teddy. Teddy is our starter. It's great that we have someone that can come in and spell him if necessary. But as long as Teddy is able to play, we're going to roll with Teddy. Awesome. Well, I think that'll do it for a PJ Walker slash Carolina Panthers update. Uh, Sheena quick. Thank you for joining us. Thank you so much. Perfect. Thank you, Sheena. Oh man. She, and that is just the best. I mean, I'm glad she came on. I messaged her yesterday. I know she's busy running around. I do appreciate that because I just said, Hey, like Thanksgiving, like this is when we're recording and if you can do it, that would be great. She called in. I really appreciate that. You couldn't ask for more. It was last minute I would have reached out. I, I did make the initial care connection. I would have reached out, but I was just, I had a lot of work on my platelet yesterday. So I'm glad. Thank you, Reed, for reaching out and grabbing Sheena, she's always a pleasure to talk to and always bring. Some great insights that we don't have here on the Mar cast specifically about PJ and specifically about Carolina Panthers football. It's great. Well, I like it cause you know, I follow her now and it is like, you know, she's at the stadium, she's doing everything in my life that. I like feeling like we've got, you know, people in positions to, you know, help us out to give us a try. So we're we're we're, we're trying our best here. It's great to have someone, you know, Even with COVID going on, I'm still doing her work and we, we definitely hats off to her for, for keeping, keeping us informed. So moving on. So I talked about, uh, my surprise, my other surprise that the rock did not, um, the rock and Danny did not tweet and congratulate, um, you know, PJ Walker on his. Victory at the Carolina Panthers. Uh, but what did, what did the rock tweet Paul this week? Wow. That was cool. That was. That was cool. I mean, that was, it was kind of, it was your idea. It was you're like, you know what you should do, you should describe some, uh, some of his tequila and, uh, you know, Pop a pop, a little tweet up. Yeah. It gives some context last week on the show, I said it was Paul's birthday. We recorded that it was going to be Paul's birthday. I said, here's the deal? The rock retweets, everybody that posts. Deaf with tear mana rock lost her mom at we'll talk. I want to talk about him and Jay Glazer laser. And that whole thing was just chaotic as well. Uh, but I say for your birthday, I know you're not a big drinker right now, but if you post it, I don't care if you drink it or not. We just buy the bottle and you post it. The rogatory tweet you. And if, if I was Steven called bear, you know how we used to have, like the thing, like the mission accomplished. Like the mission completes a big banner with drop that's. What I would do right now. Yeah, you should, because I got a retweet and a happy birthday from the world's biggest movie star. That was insane. Like when that happened, people, you know, like I I'm tied into Yankees, Twitter, of course, with my, you know, Yankees fandom. People were like, Oh, are we not acknowledging that there's a budding friendship, beer between Sanchez to the rock? Let's not go that far, but it was, it was definitely awesome to be wished to happy birthday. From the rock, a guy, I grew up watching wrestling and the wrestling ring when I was in college. Uh, mimicking him, you know, his, his catch phrases. Is Lux all that. So you can't do that. Never did the eyebrow. Up front and do the eyebrow thing. It's not working for you to look. You look like an alien friend. You look like an alien. You also got, uh, also the terror modded tequila also wish you a happy birthday separately. I don't know if you saw the other night. Couple days later, but Hey, it's, it's fine. It's okay. I'll take it. You know, it's just, I thought it was really cool to get the, like the retweet from the rock. And it was like all of a sudden, you know, everybody, everybody retweeted that one, of course, but everybody came to my stuff and they retweeted that to you. And of course I tagged. The XFL, Mark. Mark cast a podcast Twitter account in that. And again, read. That was your idea. So we want to, we want to give you the props on that one. Definitely. That was the wrong button. I do this a lot on wheelhouse. I hit the wrong button. I'm gonna have you send me that tweet and you said, I've always said you are a creative genius and I'm going to print that tweet out. It's holidays this week, but I'm going to print it out and I'm going to like frame it and I'm going to hang it right here. Blowing up Paul. I'm a creative genius. I've said that to well, many times I'm like reads a marketing genius. People don't realize how, how sharp read is the marketing. He knows how to promote. And so hats off to you read for getting me a birthday retweet from the gray one. Uh, speaking of the rock, let's do the Jay Glazer thing just while we're at it here. So the rock last night, this got posted a lot of people, I think thought maybe they would break some news about the XFL and stuff. Jay Glazer, you know, he's a big NFL reporter, whatever, I guess he does like a glass glass with Glazer every week. I don't know, but it's like, I G T V thing he does. And like he, he says on there. Spoiler alert there wasn't a lot of extra valves. But it was a 40 minute video. I watched the whole thing from start to finish. So if anyone was thinking like, Oh yeah, I was going to go check that thing out. I did the work for you. You don't need the, you don't need to watch it. But Jay, I guess he normally does like a glass of wine and like interviews people on IGT TV. It seems very odd, but he had the rock on and they did a tear mine at tequila and they talked, but they did talk a little bit about the exit value. It took them. So how many Twitter, how many Instagram followers is Rockelle Paul like million 300 million, right. Highest highest followed person in the world. Took him like four minutes to figure out how to actually get the thing to work on. I G T V. So I was thinking, I don't know if this was him that retweeted you. Maybe it was somebody else because. I on his account gets a rock. Like literally couldn't. Take it out like. No, I don't feel like now I'm like, Oh, Like Danny or something? Not that it wouldn't be flattering of Danny retweeted it, but you know what I'm saying? Now you're like. Oh now. That would be like, if you were a fan of our podcast and I'm not gonna say their name because like, if you were a fan tweeted me last night and said, Hey, I just got to fall from the official XFL Twitter account. And that. I had to tell him. No, ma'am, that's not. That's not the official Twitter account. Like it was like XFL underscore, whatever the thing. As I said, I'm just going to have. That's not been official. Twitter is. Okay, thank you for not like publicly shame. So I didn't say it. Publicly shaming of now, is it a name though? We just disappear. Just just. The listener of the podcast is to listen to her. I'm the podcast, but, um, but anyway, the rock was on there. He did talk about getting excited to buy the XFL. So it was kind of cool, but it was like a lot of talk about terror, Monta, tequila, and the rock star in that. And Jay Glazer has got some new supplementing out, cause he's like, yeah, training people. I don't know. Jay Glazer is an interesting guy. What do you think about him? I actually buy. Name drop here. I've actually interviewed Jay Glazer twice. He does great work for, uh, uh, veterans. Uh, we did a story with him. Uh, how a lot of these, uh, there was a, there's a group that he has, that he comes in. He works them out. They're all veterans MVP. He was talking about. Yeah. Yeah. Um, it's, it's a great thing that he does. I've actually sat in the class and had a, you know, veterans come up and talk. It's not only do they do working out, not only do they do a physical exercise, but they also talk about PTSD and mental illness issues that affect our veterans, which is a very important thing that we. We should discuss a lot is that these veterans come back and they have scars that are not necessarily physical, but mental and emotional. So, this is a great thing to G I L I love Jay Glazer. I think he's done great things for the veterans community. Hat's off that guy. He's a great, great guy. Yeah, but it's good to anyway, just in case your care, I just wanted to play with it. [unknown] in case you were going to check out the rocks thing on Jake glazers saved the time. I watched the whole 40 minutes this morning. And there was about two minutes of extra felon. He just said, yeah, it was exciting when I bought it. But then he also said that the highlight of his career was when he told. When he joined the nation of domination and he told Vince McMahon. Give me the microphone for two minutes. And he went out there and cut that. Remember when he joined the nation and he was like, It's not a, it's not a race thing. It's a respect thing. And he said that that was like him grabbing the, you know, the brass rings and that was the highlight of his career. So I thought that was interesting. I remember that. I remember that promo, you know, because. P he didn't understand why people hated him. Like people, you know, We were in a situation, wrestling was in a situation, a weird situation where, um, Good guys. We're getting booed and bad guys were getting sheer. I mean, Steve Austin. Case in point there. And, uh, when, when the rock started to come out with this ridiculous. I remember that blue, green thing that he had, and he just, he locked it there Ang just like, it's not even. Like the smiling happy baby face stuff that, you know, the happy, good guy and people were like, [unknown]. Rocky dies. So he turned bad guy. And, and, you know, he. You know, a line where he says Rocky Maia views, a lot of things, but sucks. Isn't one of them. But it was a great promo and that's kind of what launched everything were. It, all it takes is one thing where people can realize, you know, And you talk about Steve Austin, for example, where. Vince. Hired him. And you want Steve Austin stuff from ECW before he joined WWE. After being fired from WCB could tell he could talk, but Vince hire, Steve doesn't know what he has in. Steve puts them with Ted DBS. Who's a great talker. And then all of a sudden, uh, Thanks to AAA to doing the curtain call. Steve Austin gets bumped up. When's the King of the ring and drops off. Austin three 16 and it was off to the races. So I think, I think the message here is like giving people that one shot. Yep. And then jumping on it. So like PJK. But that's the thing for people just to realize, like, if you're, if you're a fan of the rock, if you didn't watch him and all his wrestling, there was a time when people would chant die, Rocky die when he came to the rings. It just, just to conceptualize. I know. Cause not everyone here has won, you know, because the rock is this mega star in that where people used to think, you know, the rock was a wrestler, you know, that moved to acting. Right. Well now like wrestling is just a small footnote in his illustrious career. Right. But yeah, it's, it's crazy to think that that's where he used to. Come from. And I think that that kind of goes to the point where, what we're seeing now with WWE, where someone else recently have also a Samoan heritage realized. The crowd didn't like him. So he decided to go ahead and embrace that bad guy side. And now it's probably the most, it's probably the most interesting thing that that man has done since. Uh, being in that. The shield thing. So, no. My Roman reigns. We're talking about Roman reigns and we're not fans of Roman reigns, but. While we're not fans. We understand how much better it is for him to be in this role. So. Those kinds of little things, little changes here and there. Catapult. And did you want to play this clip from Jay Glazer? The one you sent me late too. I just did just remind me about that day. The interesting thing that she just finished up with the rock and all this stuff and whatever, Danny, uh, posted this little snippet on. It was like her Instagram story, like good morning had this perfect cup of coffee and she had the XFL. You know, like notebook there. I'm like, if you're going to do that, if you're going to take the time to do that, congratulate PJ Walker, like gimme a break. If you're going to go on there and do that, there's no reason not to. I mean, it's crazy. I just couldn't believe that. So I'm like, obviously, you know, she has the time, right? She did that. I would've said congratulation, PJ and put your fricking XFL notebook there. Yeah, you could have, you could have congratulated, PJ and been like, and use that. In a situation where you're like, look, this is what we do. We get players ready. For this. For the, the NFL where Vince tried in his first XFL iteration back in the 90s, early two thousands. He tried to compete with the NFL. Yeah, but the XFL now is not trying to compete with the NFL and that's why it's successful. And you could have just rode that, uh, That PJ story and be like, look, see. This is us. This is what, this is what the XFL is done. That's crazy. I just couldn't believe that when she saw that. Cause I think I had just like, kind of realized that or put two and two together that like nothing had been posted about that. And then I see that and I'm like, come on. Like, what is the deal here? Uh, they did, they did where there's not a lot here. We don't need to read the whole thing. They did wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. The XFL sent out like this big. Um, thing, just like talking about, Hey, we're we're fans and it was like this whole big thing Thanksgivings, one of our favorite times a year. We're thankful we're working hard. They did say, um, there, there are 221 inches away. Cause I guess it's, you know, we got to wait all of 20, 21 for that, for the XFL to come back. But. Yeah. Again, like you're doing that stuff. You obviously, you know, I get it. It's a whole skeleton crew right now. There's not a lot of people there, but you obviously had someone that wrote that letter and email that out, right? Like, yeah. I mean, the rock didn't write that, but someone wrote that right in the rock, you know, said, okay. I just couldn't believe that they, they didn't, they didn't the PJ thing. I'm just, I know I'm being incredulous about that, but it really surprises me. They should have jobs. They should have. The marketing that they've done, they've never let many things fall through the cracks. And it seems like that would be one big thing that they wouldn't let fall through. The cracks is that there's a success story from this thing that they invested in. Yeah, I dunno. Um, it was, it was good though. Cause they hadn't, people were saying like, I think Mark on a week. Market news hub with Sam. Like, you know, it's been a little while since we've heard from, uh, XFL. So it was nice to like, get that right. Just to have like some acknowledgement, like, Hey, we're working on staff, but I did think that was pretty surprising that they took the time to do that. And not other things, definitely other things that they've done though. They have a renewed, the lease for a globe life in Dallas for the renegades. So that was some that happened this style. We can't believe. Yeah. And so. Josh, Josh Davis talked about this and he had the court documents with new South and he was saying how, like, they've been. Basically, they've been working on a lot of these leases the whole time. It's part of, you know, restructuring and the bankruptcy and paying off the debts and all this. But I think this is the first one that's like finally official resigned. It's a new lease. Like you can go on. Um, I think the news hub article, they even have it broken down. Like you can see what their pain. Per, uh, per the field per year and per the clubhouse per year and per like, cause they pay for like in the practices. Facilities, but it's all on there. And so yeah, there had been some talk that maybe the renegades weren't going to come back to Dallas. I think that was crazy talk, but yeah, the renegades are going to be there to stay put. Football is huge in Texas. So it definitely is definitely open for two, uh, uh, XML teams there. And, uh, there they be, I think they'd be dumb to not jump on staying in Houston as well, because I mean, the renegades where the, the face of the XFL, you know, in, in. We T we talked about that with Sheena. How, uh, you know, Houston was going to run away with the league. Pretty much everyone expected Houston was going to win the league last year. And PJ Walker was the assumed MVP. So, um, yeah, it's good to see that they're going to continue. They're they're based in Dallas, basically based in Texas, I should say, with two teams there and then Dallas definitely keeping the renegades. I still stick to the idea that the Wildcats probably are relocating, but we'll see, we'll see. Also, they just, they dumped a ton of money in that global life. Global. I feel whatever they call it, globe. We're there. Next day, you know, in Arlington there next to where the Cowboys play. You know, we walked by there, uh, on the way the WrestleMania, but they dumped a ton of money into that because it was the baseball stadium for the Texas Rangers. Yes. And, um, so, you know, they basically like dropped a football field in the baseball. So it's a really weird configuration. Like if you see it on TV, if you look at the CD and charts like I do, because I'm a weirdo, but, um, It just, I, it would be very surprising for them not to renew that with all the money that's been put in there. So, uh, definitely. And I mean, I don't. Yeah, exactly. They don't have any. I think they don't have any more multi-use stadiums anymore because the last one they had, um, was Oakland's and now the Raiders have left. So there's no need to, you know, It was really annoying to watch Raiders preseason football in the Oakland Alameda stadium. You'd see like the infield and part as part of the football team. Oh my God. This is, so this is so tacky. We've gotten away from that kind of thing where they're using multi-use fields and you know, the Rangers now have a new ballpark. So, um, it's good to see something going on with this, and I'm glad to see that they've renewed their lease and they're going to stay in Dallas. Yeah. Uh, one other thing about the XFL. I thought it was interesting. And we'll talk about the United football players too, with coming up with the TSL, but they, they did release a statement. I thought this is really interesting that. I saw it come across. Um, uh, [unknown]. Is United football player's association. The USPA is working with legal counselors to ensure the XFL players who did not file a claim before the deadline of the bankruptcy are going to get a payout. And basically they're saying that if you were like an ex NFL player and you didn't, cause I guess there was like a cutoff. If you were owed some money or something from the initial bankruptcy. Uh, to, to basically to reach out to them, to kind of Pharaoh and the rest of the crew there, and that they were going to help take care of that. And I just thought that was interesting because obviously, you know, while we're looking forward to 2022, there are still some stones and things that we need to turn over and figure out and all the old, you know, tie up some loose ends, but. Yeah. Th they're looking out and we'll get into the USPA with it with the spring league here too. But yeah, they're, they're looking at if you're an XFL player. What's that? That was cool. Cause like, maybe you're someone that either like didn't know what was going on or didn't, I don't know. I don't know why you wouldn't know that the bankruptcy was closing, but. Right. You need that. It's out. It's just kinda nice to see it kind of Pharaoh looking out for everybody. He was a former dragons player, him and the rest of the crew there at the USPA. They follow us on Twitter at their family. He was a former dragon Slayer. Yes, sir. I didn't know that I, I, you know, I only really paid. Medium attention to, uh, I think it was who was I paying attention to besides the wild cats? Of course. Uh, DC. Cause we went to, you know, to do. The DC, uh, DC game, but I didn't even know that. So that's. That's a, that's a, that's an insight that I didn't know. So you gotta just drop a nugget bumps. Robin nuggets of knowledge. I get to knowledge. I'll get some knowledge. We need that on a t-shirt. Well, it's it's XFL ramblings in general. Thoughts. That is, that is the tagline at the markets. That's true. So, um, we talked about it last week. There was a lot of fallout on this. Uh, the TSL, we interviewed both cat Shelby and, uh, Brian Woods. Um, the TSL of course. Um, There's there's a little bit of scatter here that a Fox might be interested in buying this thing. Yeah, that was interesting. Matthew posted that, uh, he he's, uh, he covers the XFL. Uh, four don't quote me on this. He comes in from USADA, Matthew Shapiro. And he is saying, according to Kaplan, sports, uh, Fox is negotiating, uh, to help by, uh, the TSL, which is interesting, you know, Brian Woods and negotiated the deal with [unknown]. They did. This was the first time ever that the spring league games for like really publicized the way that they were. And, uh, the, the big takeaway that a lot of people had from this is if Fox is interested in the TSL, are they not interested in Aaron? The XFL games? That's a good question to bring up. I don't know. I mean, but that was kind of the takeaway. That's kind of a good thing to think about because, um, I mean, with, with. They're going to renegotiate all these. Deals anyway. So. Maybe this is a way for them to kind of. Either low ball, the XFL, or just say, you know what? We've got our own, we've got our own football league that we're doing on our own thing. Um, I don't know if this is a good idea and I'm gonna, I'm gonna explain why whenever, whenever TV stations get in the practice of providing. When they get in the practice of owning things, like, for example, I'm going to bring this up wrestling again. When TBS and TNT Turner owned WCW. They were a TV company putting on a wrestling product as opposed to a wrestling company. Putting out a TV product. Do you understand what I'm saying? Where you have a TV company putting on a football product as opposed to a football company? Putting the other TV product. It's interesting. I mean, I think a lot of people, and this is just a wild rampant speculation, but a lot of people assumed, you know, XFL was on Fox and ABC before with ESPN and all that stuff. Yep. Well, clearly we're going to go back. Uh, and that might not be the case. I mean, we've talked in the past about, um, XFL going to Netflix or Hulu or, you know, trying to get on the YouTube TV. I mean, there, there's plenty different landing places, but. It is interesting if Fox, you know, cause I'm sure they could get the spring league or a portion of the spring league for a fraction of what it would probably cost. You know, that the rock and Danny would want. I mean, I, you know, I don't think, and I think even Brian Woods in his art. Uh, interview last week that, you know, they're like the D-League right? So if the XFL is like a B league, right. You know, obviously they're not the NFL. Uh, they're definitely going to be worth a little bit more than the spring league would be. So maybe Fox is looking at it that way too, as, Hey, we can get this for just a fraction of the cost and put the games on Fs, one to kind of fill, you know, game time. I'm looking at some of the things that spin of the USPA. In the spring, like I'm looking at some of the things that were brought up. Um, yeah, the response. By the players, the USPA of course related some issues. That, you know, we've just discussed with Ken, shall we? Where there was limited testing and, and Brian Woods did acknowledge that there was limited testing. He did say that. Yeah, we kind of, you know, he didn't say they dropped the ball, but he, you know, he alluded to it. He, he kind of soft balled and said, yeah, we. You know, there, there was some, there was some stuff that was going on in terms of their COVID testing, their protocols. That weren't great. Um, but then of course he kind of handed it off to the players, like, well, the players were. We're going off campus and doing this. And of course, when, when you interview Kent first and Kent says, well, the reason the players were doing this, you know, you, you talked to Brian after camp, basically. That's the way, that's the way the interview's rolled. Uh, we talked to Brian after Kent and Brian put the onus on the players for going off campus and going and picking up. Food somewhere else or doing other things somewhere else. But Kent, his response to that before even Brian said it was the meals weren't adequate. Yeah, it was this brought up in the, the USPA thing. I'm looking right here that, that there were, I don't see much on the food situation. Yeah. I mean, you know, Brian did say that was, uh, like a personal preference, right? If you were someone like, can, it shall be, that has played in the CFL that has played in, in larger leagues, you might be expecting right. A little bit more being taken care of it. You know, it'd be like, if, if you were an actor. And you were used to like maybe more medium sized budget movies and getting like a nice screen room and the trailer and all that stuff. And then you went and did a spot on something that was smaller and you go, well, this is not what I'm used to, which is, which is not an incorrect assessment. But if you're someone that you know is maybe not used to the nicer thing, You know, it's all relative. At a point that was what Brian's argument was, was that it was all relative, depending on how you were looking at the situation. Yeah, maybe. I mean. It's it's, it's really hard because it's really hard to make that analogy, because I know there are some actors that, you know, For example, Eric Roberts, who is, you know, he's taking all these little jobs now he's got over 500 credits to his name. He's taking all these little two 50, $250 a day jobs here and there. Because, you know, he appreciates the art of the, of the. The, the acting, so to say, and maybe that's what Brian was trying to get across is like, well, you're playing football. You know, you understand that we're not working with the NFL's budget. But at the same time, like if you're expecting to lock these players in and keep them, COVID free, you have to give them all the resources. To stay locked in. You can't just say, well, Fyre Fest sandwiches for everybody. Yeah. And expect them not to go to water burger. When you're not feeding them adequately. I'll say the other argument they said, are they. And I've heard too is a lot of the players because they did kind of a showcase before the actual spring league started. And so some of the players that maybe didn't get signed by a team we're encouraged to stick around for free. Uh, in, in the hopes of maybe getting picked up, like, Hey, well, why don't you stick around for a little bit? And then, um, you know, maybe we'll get you on the team later on. And so a lot of those players maybe didn't have adequate lodging and then they were intern stain with some of the players that were on teams. Also, you know, giving more credence to like COVID issues and things like that. So I just, it's interesting because you know, On one hand, we have all these issues with the spring league, you have PA getting involved, all these different things. And then the other side you have Fox is interested in like potentially buying this company or, or. You know, a stake in it. So it was interesting to see both sides of that. I will, and I just wanted to touch on too. Uh, overwhelming, um, response to the podcast. I was really, uh, you know, a lot of listens and views. Um, I know I was expecting more of a, like a lot of comment fighting. I didn't really know what to expect. Right. I didn't know, like, Hey, we're going to post this on YouTube where people get into like, yeah, give it a thumbs down. If you're whatever are you going to be negative? Um, everyone I've talked to, including, uh, you know, Dorothy listened to the whole thing and she thought that both sides had valid points. I emailed Brian afterward. I said, thank you very much for coming on. You know, we had good response. And I said, just so you know, you know, our listenership did feel like. Um, positively towards what you had to say. I mean, I will say that I think that it was overwhelming that they understood obviously where Kent was coming from. And then they also did understand where. Uh, Brian, you know, they, they got both sides of it, then maybe both sides weren't right. But they also both weren't wrong. Like it was right. It was a mix. There's a middle ground here. And I think that, um, and I'm not saying, you know, I'm not trying to blame blame. That's not what we're trying to do. We're trying to get, we're trying to get the most well-rounded story. Do I feel like we may have gone a little soft on Brian. I do feel like we may have gone a little, so I don't think we could have held him to the fire a little bit harder, but the point was to address every concern. That's what we talked to Ken first to get the notes from what we wanted to bring to Brian and discuss things with Brian. And I think. Honestly. It feels like. This is my, just my, my viewpoint is that the truth is always in the middle. There's always three sides of the story. There's your side, my side and the truth. And the truth is always kind of in the middle where perception. Alters your side of the story where the truth is. Could Brian have done more? Yes. Could the players have. Possibly spoke up their concerns directly to Brian instead of, you know, maybe posting a YouTube video that the now taken down possibly and apologize for it to be fair. Supposedly again, Meghan has apologized for his video. Yeah, it was. I can't. Yeah, but he, um, he did remove the video and supposedly. Because when we had talked with Brian, Brian had not, according to Brian have not watched the video. When we spoke to him, which I thought was odd, but that was what he said. And I guess he either continued then to choose, to watch the video or had seen the video and reached out to the player and they apologized and took the video down. So that that's where that's at is that that player has removed the video. It's clear that yeah. And then he sent the player, sent me a direct message is like, after our interview with Brian, he was like, yeah, man, I'm, I'm good. Like, I want to move past this. Uh, I can actually read the message right now. Yeah. Yeah, let me, and, and they want, while you pull this up a, I know a lot of people, I will say I've had messages about this. Want to know about, uh, Brian promised us a merchandise. Not that we, I, this was not like promised, you know, wheat for the interview. In the course of the interview, I had mentioned that I was at Josh's fan and Brian had said, Hey, that's crazy who the heck in the world would be a gesture fan. And Brian had said to his own accord that he was going to send us some jerseys emerged. This was not at all like a, you know, a tit for tat or anything like that. But, but I messaged Brian after, when I send the email, I said, Hey, I don't even know if you were serious about that or not. You know, if you are here's our address. And he said, absolutely. You know, it was a pleasure to come on. And that once they get back, cause he's still contending, they're going to need to do the championship game. And he said, you know, when we get back from Thanksgiving, we're going to get ready for that. And he says, I'm going to have the equipment guy send you some, some merge. So I know like, I, I know Kenny and a couple other people had messaged me like, Oh, I can't believe Brian was getting to send you that Merck. So that's what we'll see. I mean, who knows? I mean, he could never come, it could be like my PJ Walker Jersey, but, um, that's the story. And, and Brian promise that out of the goodness of his heart, just cause I think we were. I think fair. I think we were fair. Both sides. So a poop Maine. Sorry. You just kick it over saying that, uh, he said, Hey, I got to step away from it for right now. It's almost like I'm in the matter. And of course shortly after he said that to me, that's when he pulled the video down. So I'm thinking there was a dialogue that happened. Uh, Brian probably checked out the video. Reached out said, Hey, let's discuss this. Let's figure this out. And again, you know, There, there needs to be. There needs to be a dialogue and that needs to be all sides coming in and conceding something specifically. If the TSL wants to run a league without COVID issues, testing needs to improve and they need to make sure that the bubble can be secured. Where. The players. I need to kind of, if they're not getting they're there. If they're not getting what they need, they need to speak up. They need to speak up before a video gets posted and then everything gets brought to a halt. And just context to thinking about, like you were saying, we're reaching out this, I mean, the video wasn't like Hollywood producer, but he was like produced. I mean, they were like, cause he wasn't like some guy just took a phone and was like this thing. And then uploaded it. I mean, there was like graphics and things, but I mean, There was time and thought put into the video. It wasn't like, it was just a, um, you know, like a spur of the moment thing. Uh, one last note about spring league, uh, Greg parks, dead, um, reference us. He did a whole write up about the spring league. Uh, about the closure and what that meant. If you got the XFL board.com, there was a great comprehensive, um, just kind of breakdown. Greg covers wrestling for. The PWT, which I've listened to him for years, but it was nice that he, for someone that I have listened to for years talking about wrestling with Wade Keller on the George, he quoted our interview with Brian and said, according to the XFL, Mark Hass, Things, and it was quotes from the thing. And I thought, Paul, like we did something here. Like we really did something that other writers actually reference, which I thought was cool. I think it was good that, that we, we actually, you know, read actually. Did did all the leg work to get Brian on? Um, I tried to get the poop, main guy on, but yeah. No, he did. I mean, we, it was like a duel, it just one word down. And with the, yeah, it was a dual threat to try to get people. We were trying to get people on to discuss this because we knew it was a big issue and we knew that was coming on. So it's good to see that, you know, we're getting the story out there and were. And there's a dialogue happening. That's that? That was the goal of the whole thing was to get people talking and get things worked out. Excuse me and get things kind of squared away to where the TSL. Even if it doesn't come back for the championship game. And I really don't think it's going to even have the TSL comes back. You know that that everybody's everybody's needs and desires are met. Uh, speaking of the bubble and to segue here to our next story. Um, so I we're shifting some of our alt football focus now to this fan controlled football team. I think, uh, I think the title, I want to have the title of the episode, be like fan controlled football fandom, maybe because. Is that a mouthful? What an EFS. That's not half. Um, but, uh, We're all in on this now. But the point is, uh, okay. TSL, maybe didn't have the best bubble. It seems as though this fan controlled football league, which we've talked about before and now there's a lot of chatter about it. I think we started part of this. They have a very serious bubble. Uh, I've been reading about all of this, that. Yeah, their staff where they're going to have all the players. Uh, if you're participating in this league and you step out of the bubble, you will not be allowed back in there being very thorough about that. Cause I think they saw now, right? They're learning from what happened earlier this year with a similar, smaller scale football league and saying like, we definitely cannot have this happen to us as well. Yep. And I mean, I think everybody is learning from mistakes. That's the whole point of this. I think that's kind of like what we're getting out of this COVID thing is like, uh, what's his name from the jazz Regal bear at a press conference, decided to be a little smart ass and start touching microphones. At the press conference, after it was done, start touching all these microphones and guess who were the first NBA player? To be positive for the COVID virus was Rudy go Bair. So it's just like, we're always learning from our mistakes and, uh, I could get on another tangent about mistakes, especially here in LA County. Yeah. Close down the restaurants. But we would have to learn from a mistake somehow some way. I'm I'm irritated by this. And I don't go out to restaurants often, but I have people, I have friends in the restaurant industry. I mean, um, One of my ex-girlfriends is heavily involved in Reddit restaurant industry. She is out of a job again, because of this nonsense, because. LA County and I'm I'm, I'm, I'm amped about this. I need to talk about this. 3% of the cases in LA County, 3%. 3%. Small cases. You're talking about a hundred people, three people. Got COVID from a restaurant, 3% of the cases. Of COVID in LA County, come from restaurants. So why are they shutting all the restaurants? When grocery stores. Congregating outside of the restaurant and like the tables and stuff is not their rationale. But it's still 3%. Do you understand, like there's still 3%. If the data were higher, sorry, I'm going off with us. Paul Williams fan of the show works at Safeway and he he's assistant manager there. He would say the same thing, but he has not had any, none of his employees I've ever had any cases of COVID and they deal with, you know, thousands of people with that. But the data here in LA County says 15% of COVID cases come from the grocery store. And that's the leading cause of COVID cases. And I'm not, I'm not disparaging the grocery industry at all. I had family members who have worked for years in the grocery industry. I know that they're essential and I appreciate everything they do, but they didn't have the time to shut down. Grocery stores didn't have the time to shut down. During this, they had to keep going and keep working and keep figuring it out. So everybody else could follow their protocols. They've never had the time to shut down. And go, okay. Let's put filtration systems in and let's, you know, let's learn from what other people are doing. It's, it's a shame and that's, you know, it's, it's gonna keep going. It's going to keep going. Uh, so back to this fan controlled football league, I appreciate that. Ah, so. We now officially I play a bit Twitter poll. We have a team, we have a team for the fingertip of. But like, I didn't go on to somebody on this time. I learned from the jesters. I said, I put on our Twitter. I said, you know, who's our team going to be? It's like the glacier Boyz. It's the beast. It's a zapper. Isn't that? It's a wild ASIS. And our listeners can't do they voted, we are the bees, which I think is great. Uh, that bees team is owned, inject like altogether by Mike Tyson, Marshawn Lynch, and then Miro. A wrestler, which is great. Cause we've been talking about this and trying to get me around. I think Miro is afraid to come on the podcast. I'm going to start a Twitter feud with them and basically make fun of him until he comes on. But on Miro. I mean, I, what else? I mean, AWS tape and once a week, I don't know what else you're doing right now. You know, hanging out with Lana and off time. But, uh, I think, I think, um, I'm excited about this, where the bees I voted for our logo and the reason why I wanted to make this. The reason why. This logo, by the way. Well, yeah, so basically defend controlled football league. You can vote for what you want. They're going to do. I want to get into the rules here before we move on, um, that they, you can vote for all the different logos and everything. And. Uh, some of the beasts logos are like really good. Like they're really nice drama, like wolves and monsters. And there's this like a squiggly line, like smear face. It's like a 2d. It was done in Ms. Paint, to be honest with you, it's really bad, even when they submitted it. Uh, cause I, the fi I could fall fair controlled football league on Twitter. They, the guy was like, can I please talk to whoever submitted this logo? Like seriously, can we please make sure that you're mentally like, okay. But if the guy I want to make this, the thumbnail for the episode, I want to have the fingers up football league. And I want to have this squiggly face a logo because I want to interview the guy that made this logo. I want him on business. I want to talk to you. Why, why did you like take a piece of toilet paper ed, like scan it in and they just bought. Like it's so bad. But it's so good, but I want that to be, and if it's not the logo, I'm making hats for the Markcast and we're going to sell the alternate BS logo hat. But, so I think this is good, you know, for us, we needed a team for this. We got Tyson. That's great. Right. He's fighting this weekend. He's back in the news. Right. He's boxing. We've got, um, Marshawn Lynch. He's given out turkeys for Thanksgiving. He's doing good. And then we've got mirror. I mean, we've got a powerhouse team and that we're we're with the BC. Do you see, uh, first off, too? By the way Mike, Tyson's gonna win this weekend. Yeah, I think so. Um, van. Controlled football league did reach out if you're a spring league player. Ah, the tryouts happened over the weekend. If you were a spring league player that got let go because of all the bankruptcies and everything they were saying that you could come do a tryout for free. They did like a big open tryout in Atlanta, I believe. And so they're trying to like carry the mantle and again, people asking. Why do we care about TSL? Why do we care about fingernail football? It's because a lot of these players. Are going to be in the XFL when that comes back. It's just how it's going to work. But I want to get your take on some of these rules real quick before I move on from this, um, it seems like a fantasy football, like live fantasy football league. And apparently you're going to be able to keep some players from the previous week, but every week fans are gonna be able to. Choose two quarterbacks, five skilled positions. Uh, offensive line unit defensive unit. So basically what it looks like is. Um, they're going to keep. Five players or six players that he kept the tie down together. Unless you count the time in a skilled position. You're going to keep these units together. Like there's going to be four different offensive line units in four different defensive units and you'll basically be able to pick, okay. I want defensive unit two and offensive line. Unit three. Is that what, when I'm basically. I don't know if this is a smart idea. Well, it's interesting. So this is shout out to a fan controlled football news. They were covering TSL staff, and now they, they, you know, Writing on the wall. They read that and they're moving over. I think we brought a lot of this on, I'm always going to say that, that it was our story in that bus. Cause I did that. We did the whole video about it. Van control football, retweeted it. And then the next week people are like, Oh, this sounds like a great football league. I'm like, where do you think he came up with that? But, yeah, so basically like every week there's going to be, they're going to rotate the teams around. Yeah. It is very much like fantasy football. You're going to have, like, the bees are going to have like a pool of players and then you're going to go on and vote. The league is going to do the offensive line and D and balanced defensive units. And they could obviously change over time with injuries they're saying, but basically like, Y like you said, that is a perfect analogy. You are going to kind of like draft your fantasy football team, but as opposed to it being fancy football, they're actually going to go out on the field and play. I think that's a perfect, you killed it way that way to describe that. I don't know. I don't how many players. It says fans will also be able to vote to keep a certain number of players in the previous week are going to go one player, two players. Because some, in some fantasy football leagues, you're able to carry maybe a player or two over from the previous year. So that's going to be interesting to see how many players can be carried over from one, uh, one week to the next. Yeah, and they're, they're going to make their own field. It's 50 yards. Yeah, so it's good. I think it's going to be a little train recky I think it's going to be a little like cluster AF, but I think it's going to be interesting. I think you're going to get a lot of guys. I know a lot of the guys with the TSL or moving over. Uh, you know, we have players that followed us with the podcast because we cover the TSL. I think a lot of these guys are interested in this. Uh, you know, a football is good football, and this is kicking off. This is literally going to be the time zone when the XFL was going to be before, they're going to kick off in February, they're going to go for six weeks and then they're going to do championship games and all that stuff. So. Good forward to it. Definitely looking forward to it. Uh, we're getting over about an hour now. So our distributor is going to complain that we're not putting more ads. And so we're going to do more ads right now. I'm going to come back and read is going to discuss. It's a couple more things read is going to discuss the bachelor again. Do we, are we going to, well, that's just for you, right? Yeah. Okay. And we're back. We just have a couple more, I don't want to go to one. I know, I know I had a lot of, some more minutes, 10 more minutes. This is, this is, this is bonus coverage. This is bonus coverage. Now we did spring Lake. We did finger touch football. Uh, finishing up the football talk before we get to the Batchelor, let's get all the football talk out of the way. What do you think about Kyler Murray trademarking, the name hail Mary. C'mon man, you did it once. And, and not, you didn't do it. You didn't do it. He didn't catch it. Yeah, you didn't do it. The. The Andre Hopkins did it. Deandre Hopkins is the reason why that was successful. It had nothing to do with you. He beat four different defenses. I sell like Stephen A. Smith, he defeated four different defensive backs. It was all Deandre Hopkins. It had nothing to do with you. You're outta here. Yeah, no, this is crazy. I like Kyler Murray. I told Dorothy desk, cause we were watching the game. Um, you know, with the [unknown]. Auction the Cardinals. I said, I hate Kyler Murray, but if he was on the Seahawks, I would love him. Hate him because we don't have him. He's like the, if you've seen major league too, there's a player on there called Jack Parkman. And Bob, yuker his character, the, the play by play commentator Kim, or the name of that he plays. But Bob yuker basically says Jack Parkman now doing that little shimmy, that all the drives, all the women here in Cleveland. Crazy. And then when Parkman goes to the white Sox, he says, Jack Park, we're now doing all. Then we met shimmy that makes all the women here at Cleveland puke. So it's kind of the same thing where it's like, I don't like Kyler Murray, but if you're playing for the Seahawks, I would love. I'd be all in on Kiowa, Marie. I really do like, he's just a little squirrely guy, but I thought this was crazy. He's tried to trademark this stuff. Get out. I had nothing to do with him. Everything to do with the Andre Hopkins and I'm standing by that. Uh, so I listened to a lot of good morning football now on the NFL network. I don't know if you're aware of this, uh, this show. No. Oh, Okay. It's like a round table. Yeah. Yeah. So I have a, uh, a Madden. One of the Madden games has good morning football. I was like this thing where they talk about when you're, when you're playing, like as the player that you create and you're drafted and all that stuff. Uh, they have the people from good morning football, talk trash about your player. Say good things about your player. It's funny how that works out. Um, depending on how great of a play you are. So. Yeah, I've seen it. I'm aware. So they did this thing like to their yesterday, that Brady is like, Oh, for 19, with long passes, right? Like he's just been horrendous Alaska weeks. Now they're getting trounced. Uh, I'm excited to watch them versus the chiefs on Sunday. But my segue is that maybe if brachy, isn't going to work out this year for the Buccaneers, he could go to the XFL because Brady did a double forward pass. Uh, on, uh, Monday against the Rams, I was illegal by the way. Huh. It was illegal. Yeah, but it was cool. It was illegal. And the weird thing is, is like it's a dead ball foul. I don't understand the rest screwed that whole thing up. Wait, wait, wait. Why are they going to place the ball where he caught it? Like what. Like. None of it made sense. It should have been dead ball. Yep. We're Brady threw the ball the second time. Yeah, basically what happened was Brady threw the ball, got batted back to Macata. He threw it again. You can't really throw ball. You can only run or lateral. You can wait. But you can in the XFL. Which is spoiler. If you've seen our episode logo, that is the diagram for the double forward pass is the XFL path. Landry Jones of the renegades with the only extra belt player to ever do the double forward pass. Basically doing the exact same thing Tom Brady did, but that's the Lancer Jones special. Throw it, get bounced back to you and then throw it back again. Yeah, it's legal in the XFL. Not legal in the NFL. Maybe Tom. I say maybe Tom could go, go to the XFL. Like two more good years in him. Awesome. Possibly. So. Wow. Now it's time for your bachelor stuff. I tell you, we have fans writing in, I went on a little thing, whatever it was last week we are watching. And are I am going to put the little thing up for this one? Are, uh, are right. Fan Brandon, Chris BOSH. Crab crab credits back. Yeah. He posted and he put this side by side, I'm going to say. He goes, dude, it's obviously not Brandon Silver's. He would have had Botox. The conspiracy is that Brandon Silver's is parading on, um, the bachelor at right now with Tisha as, uh, the C the name, Jason, Nick, cause it's the same person and I'm going to put the side by side, but he tweeted this and he goes, Oh, clearly it's not branding silver. It's like brand. Silver's where they had more Botox. I go this side by side makes me think even more it's ran itself. Silvers. Yes. Okay. Chase the neck has a weird, weird, like plumper lips. Then Brandon Silver's, but that's something that you could easily get done in like four hours at any place down here in Beverly Hills, you can get that done. That's easy. Chasing Nick had a stellar episode. He got in a fight with a guy. He tried to throw somebody out of the cocktail party. He goes, what are you doing in here? It's a cocktail party. You can't be in a cocktail party wearing a robe because the guy had on like a bathrobe. I don't. And then they did cage fighting. And this is why I had this. I'm sure. You're wondering why this read, have a photo of him with Amy Dumars in the Google doc. Amy Moss, Amy DeMoss, former WWE wrestler, a hall of Famer women's champion. She was on the bachelorette training them how to fight. It all, it's all full circle. I didn't see that. I, I just don't, I don't watch this. I mean, I will say this. I think the bachelor. That girl is attracted. Yeah, she's really pretty. Um, and I was like, well, maybe I could start watching us because like, she's very attractive, but I didn't even see this, like Lita was on there. Yeah. So here's the, and I was going to ask you this because you know, way more about ITV and filming and all that. I mean that, so if they're in a bubble, Right in the bachelorette, they filmed in a bubble. So if Amy DeMoss was going to go spend, let's say they were there hour and a half tops training them like to wrestle. She had to do a two week quarantine. Yep. That's spot on there. Get her. Well, it really well. They'd better paid her really well to sit and do nothing for two weeks. And then go do this. Yep. Anyway. I just thought that was interesting, but yeah. Brandon silver is, uh, w we're not through this episode yet, so I didn't have chasing Nick is still on or not, but, but, uh, yeah, he is, we have fans writing in and, and showing, showing the side by sides, the side by side. You're not, you're not making much argument for your case. You're helping it. Hopefully here, I believe. That changed the neck and Brown soldiers. Or the same thing. So, uh, let's uh, it's going to be interesting to see how his week shakes out. Yeah. Uh, last thing before we go. I know the restaurants are closing in LA. You're probably going to be awhile till you can go out on a date. But the next time you go out on a date, Paul. Maybe you could rock paper scissors to see who covers the belt, like friend of the show, Chad Johnson, Chad. Always a fan of the show he's been on. We've found him before. All these NFL podcast, he has a rock paper scissor in women to. That's crazy. That's. You hear all that kind of came out. Uh, yeah, he's playing rock paper scissors with women to see who pays for the dinner bell. This is how you stay a millionaire. Yeah, I get it. But like doesn't Chad just loving. Donald's like. Then they admit to taking women to date at McDonald's before too, he paid somebody $1,000 to give him a drive to, uh, to McDonald's. So he is going to pay someone $1,000 to give a drive to McDonald's, but is then gonna rock paper scissors with some girl for the. Come on Chad. You better be better chat. You better chat with, come on, man. Anyway, I just, I was laughing about that. You know, I said I got to do go to the Google doc is stuff today, but we'll only have lunch out though. Just think. I will say this, I will say this, um, last week. It's the last week or the two weeks ago, two weeks ago as this airs a week before my birthday. Yep. I did go out on a date. And she paid. That was a good draw then. Insisted she insisted to pay though. She was like, you helped me move. So she insisted to pay and I consider a day because you know, there's history there. So anyway, I was just going to say, you must elect out with the rock paper scissors. So she was going to pay, I lucked out with a lot of things. It wasn't just the rock paper scissors. So would that being said, Chad, come on, man. Just pay for the date. Yeah. Chad, Jen needs to get it together, but okay. Alright, so next week we'll have some more good stuff. Hopefully we'll have some, uh, advanced news about the fan controlled football. Um, maybe we'll have some more information about CSL championship game coming. Cross our fingers, maybe it'll happen. Maybe it won't. Yeah. And then I should have my PJ Walker Jersey it's come in. And then, uh, Brian, hopefully I'll update us about our jobs. I mean, I could just be like, we could have all new Jersey's up here who knows. You could, you could have left the happy thing up for just another week, too, by the way. Oh, well, I had this cause there he goes. You need to take it down. Like I had to put it up in a way that I could take it down and she could reuse it because we're very economical here. Yeah, I took it down. So you could have left that up. Especially if the rock. I cheated a rock to retweet you. I think we're good. I think we're, we're good on presence there. So anyway, we appreciate your listing. Again, a exfil show.com/merge. We didn't plug anything. I know, and I didn't re we did have one review that came in that said we were like the best podcast ever. And I posted on Twitter today. I won't play. Yeah. XFL show.com/review, please. Uh, you know, support the podcast, but we literally did have a review that came in unsolicited and it's that this is the best podcast of all time. So we like to hear that kind of stuff. Best podcast. I'll all time. Not maybe on the Rogan level, but Hey, we'll take it. We'll take your, we'll take your hyperbole and we'll, we'll run with it. So anyway. Uh, again, XML show.com/march and review us. We appreciate all of that. And thanks for listening.

XFL Markcast Episode 15 - Spring League Shutdown (ft. Kent Shelby and Brian Woods)

Well, I'm recording on the video. Happy birthday, Paul. Oh, thanks. Oh, look, you got to wallpaper and everything. I went all out. Uh, fans of the podcast. Go all out fans. Wrapped up this Friday. When this episode is live. This is Paul it's not today, but it will be Paul's birthday on Friday, November 20th. So happy birthday. Thanks. 42. Also it's cool. How'd you pull that off. You're like wrapped the dragons better. With a happy, happy, happy, happy, happy, happy. Let's see birthday there. I just see a lot of hype. I don't actually see birthday either. I still learned from Dorothy, I texted her, I said, do we have any happy birthday banners? And this is the best we came up with. So, Well, I appreciate the gesture. Of course. Uh, I don't appreciate getting a year older. Can I just not claim that I'm 42 cars? 2020 sucked. So can we just like. Can I not just, can I just keep, stay at 41 and just celebrate next year when hopefully, hopefully. If you idiots wear masks and stay distant from each other. We get rid of this COVID thing. What'd he say I saw someone posted. Yeah. They, I think everyone should be able to not add a year, unless you're, unless your attorney 21, that really wouldn't affect anybody else to just like, not just to save this whole year off, everyone on the couch. You're turning 25, then it might help your auto insurance rights. Okay. Well, I mean, but I'm just, you know, broad brush strokes. Help more people than not. If we all just get you a Mulligan on this year, completely agree. So would that being said, thank you for the birthday wishes. I was gonna say, so if you're listening to this podcast and I know this is what Paul wants for his birthday, I still have a van, the man, their number one fan. We still have a gift come in. It could be this year. It could be next year. That is still coming. Think forward to that. But we do have a gift, but if you want to wish Paul, the happiest birthday, I know he really would appreciate you go to the XFL show.com/review and leave us our review. There you go. It wouldn't cost you 1 penny. It would be the cheapest, birthday gift you've ever given anybody in the world. We got some reviews today we're going to go through, but I actually felt show.com/review. If you are a fan of the XFL, we've done a lot of work this week outside of the podcast to kinda like get all this stuff going. I think Paul would agree with that. And yeah, we would appreciate it if you're a, if you're a fan of the XFL, if you're a fan of the spring league, if you're a fan of a fan controlled football, I'm seeing a lot of chatter, you know, I feel like we kind of started a little hole in front. All right. They eat all this stuff. XFL show.com/review. I know Paul would appreciate it as a birthday gift. Thank you, everybody for listening. Everybody that reviews. We appreciate it. For sure. For sure. So that being said. We gotta, we gotta, we got an interesting show today. It's definitely, it's definitely taken on a life of itself in the last 48 to 72 hours. And, uh, of course we got 'em. Kent shall be coming up. And who else do we have coming up? Right. Woods, uh, CEO of the spring league is going to become an on we're being responsible journalists here, and we're getting both sides of the story on the spring league shut down and all the drama. Of course, this was started by a post from [unknown]. I guess his rap name was poop main. This is great. I don't, I don't know why you're going to go breaking news about anything in the world. Let's get like a decent Twitter handle and like staging. Okay. If you're going to do that. I appreciate it, but, but yes, I, I certain, uh, Just to catch people up a certain TSL player this week posted a video on YouTube. Uh, Tuesday of recording this. A lot of allegations, a lot of thoughts, feelings. Across the board, it ignited everything to TSL games have been canceled. As of now. Um, we, I want to talk about, you know, are, is there going to be a championship game, supposedly there's still gonna be a championship game. I have thoughts about that, but just across the board, uh, you know, we, we have Kent Shelby coming on. Uh, he has some very negative thoughts about the spring league. And so we reached out to a CEO, Brian Woods. I offered him obviously, a platform to come on and share his opinion. So I don't want, I don't want to paint. 10 shall be as a negative person though. He's a very positive person. We wanna, we wanna, we want to put that out there first and foremost, but he does have his own opinions and they are. Uh, potentially realistic. Maybe possibly realistic. So we don't want to like say it was completely negative interview, but we've got him coming up. He's going to share his thoughts, um, about. His realistic perspective. On, um, on the spring league. So, um, yeah, we're looking forward to that. And of course got Brian Woods coming on and, uh, you know, we're going to do our normal, normal chatter. I think the biggest story in XFL circles right now is going to be the PJ Walker situation Carolina. We had Sheena quick on last week. Um, you know, she discussed how currently PJ's kind of like. You know, they just platoon out the backup quarterbacks basically. So now we're in a situation where Teddy Bridgewater has been hurt twice now. And, uh, not consecutive weeks, but two out of three weeks. But trended Teddy Bridgewater has gone out of the game early. Uh, he went into a concussion protocol. It looked like, um, last week. So PJ Walker came in. Yeah. Well, and then the high he had the ankle or the knee injury this week that the kind of the rough tackle from behind, I think it got the penalty flag. Yeah, definitely a lot to get into today. I was thinking about this before we started. So there was a time back when I was in college. I, uh, we used to put together these like video. Uh, things. And I had made my own sitcom. That was like an angel and the devil living at Gonzaga was very racy for like 2006, you know? And we fake blew up a dorm on campus, like with special effects and everything. And it got the attention of the Dean. They got very mad at that the broadcast department, and there was a lot of chatter about, uh, are we going to allow this episode to be aired, should read, get in trouble. Should we pull it? There was just a lot of different things. And so I remember that day, that day, the show was going to go on the air. My, uh, professor Dan Garrity looks over at me and he's like, they're going to be more eyeballs on this episode today. Then there ever have, cause you know, it's like closed circuit, gone Sega television, like. Karen. And I feel like with all the spring league stuff today, I think there's going to be more eyeballs on this episode and ear holes, hopefully then there ever have before. So I hope we hope we can rise to the occasion and I, yeah. Completely agree with that. I think that like, you know, This is. This is pretty like, this is some intense stuff that we kind of discovered in the last 47 48. Does only two hours. So I'm a little tired. I don't know why it's a little tired, a little fatigued lately, but, uh, it's not, COVID, don't worry. And I'm just trying to gather my thoughts because when this was, when this was blowing up, I was like, wait, You know, We had to kind of scramble to get everything in order to kind of get the best and most comprehensive coverage. Of the spring league issue that we can. So would that being said. Let's move on to our, uh, Or other stuff before, do you want to bring in Kent first? Do you want to bring in Kent first and bring in Brian first and then we'll go on to our normal stuff. How do you want to re how do you want to do this? Let's let's get the XFL step out of the way. First. I think. [unknown] first and foremost, right. We talk about the PGA stuff and then, and then we'll kind of get into the spring league and their discussion on that. Uh, before we start, I did want to go through the new reviews we got this week. Is that okay? Real quick. Um, we add four new reviews come in this week again, XFL, uh, show.com/review. If you're a fan of the podcast. Uh, Paul is struggling. Slowly. Read this. We had five come in this, ah, four, come in this week, we had the photo bar. He said, XFL newbie. I really wasn't into the XFL until I found this podcast through friends recommendations, read, and Paul really break things down, getting to know the teams and players through this podcast has really changed my views on the exit fell. I'll look forward to hearing that every podcast. So thank you. The photo bar, JC Slugger. Guys, keep up the great work. I love listening to the podcast every Friday. Thank you very much. Uh, Shawn Marcus, this is a great XFL podcasts find hosts and good content. And then we just had one come in this morning from. Balloon sundew I don't know what that is. Do you know what that is? False. No, no idea. I originally heard about you guys on Twitter. And now I listen to every week. I'm so excited for the XFL 20, 22, but while we wait, TSL has filled the void a little bit. I love how you guys include talking about this league in your show every week. Keep it up. And that was totally on. So let's get that just came in this morning that the tagline was, I love watching for the TSL content. So clearly, even though we are an XFL podcasts, primarily there's a lot of interest in the spring league and fan controlled football and all these other alternative football league. So that's why we're giving kind of. And with all the, you know, the, um, the news going on right now with the, with the cancellation of the remainder of the spring league games, that's what we're talking about. Then you actually bought tickets to go out to San Antonio for the potential of a championship game. Yeah. And we'll talk about now with Brian to, I mean, cause. According to everything right now, the championship game is supposedly still on for December 2nd. And when all this came down yesterday, Dorothy and I had bought tickets to go to San Antonio. We had. We were going to go to the XFL championship game back when that a million years ago, we were going to go to Houston. We had everything barked. We had Airbnb, we had everything. Obviously when that all canceled. We got credit back for all of our stuff. And then we use that credit for this to go to San Antonio for the spring league, we were going to go down to earth. He was going to get time off of school. And clearly I'm just not supposed to go watch football in Texas, because now this is. In a row. My heart has been broken. Yeah, no, we were going to go. And so I hope that wasn't the wrong decision to cancel our flights, that there's not going to be a championship game. I don't think there's going to be, but we'll see what Brian has to say when he comes on. So. Yeah, we'll definitely get that all cleared up. And hopefully, hopefully there's some kind of resolution here that everybody's happy with, but it seems like there's a lot of, a lot of tension, a lot of hurt feelings, a lot. And not saying hurt feelings like. People aren't justifiably hurt. People are upset about the way they were treated. And, uh, you know, there was some pretty good one liners that were thrown out during that Kent Shelby interview. You'll be interested to hear about. The analogy that I made specifically, I'm going to, I'm going to puff my chest out because I thought it was a pretty good analogy, but you have to stay tuned for that. Uh, we'll be talking to Kent Shelby and hearing a bit and Brian Woods as well. So, so yeah, so I mean, what, what are your thoughts and Teddy Bridgewater here? I know, you know, we kind of prognosticating incorrectly that PJ was going to come in to, you know, he had got hit in the head. We've got BJ was going to come in the next week. Of course, like we're wrong. You know, I wake up, van is texting me. Teddy Bridgewater is going to play something that Mike of course, you know, we failed, we failed Dan, we're trying. Now, you know, he's heard again. I mean, even if he plays on Sunday, even if he's okay to play, is this a sustainable solution? I mean, I know he was hurt back with the Vikings. And then now again, I mean, is this sustainable or do we need to start figuring out something else? I think it was a situation where, and I'm not trying to disrespect Teddy Bridgewater. I think he's a decent quarterback. I don't think he's a starter, I think is a backup. I think that's. That's uh, that's kind of been his role. I think what happened was is that last year he did a great job filling in for drew Brees. Uh, guided the saints to a lot of wins. Of course, taste some Hill was the third string quarterback, the candidate, they kind of run out like a wild cat, uh, in new Orleans will take some Hill as their quarterback in that Wildcat formation so that Teddy Bridgewater was able to stop the bleeding, so to speak. In new Orleans one season and ended up getting himself a great deal. Uh, his base salary for this year, of course, $8 million. You got a signing bonus of 5 million. Stands to make $17 million next year. And if he's released that's $20, that's a $20 million hit on the cap. On the Carolina cap. So I think Teddy Bridgewater is going to stay around at least another season here because after a 2021. Um, I believe the potential out is either for him or I don't know, not seeing who. Who has the out here after 2021. But, um, the cap in 2022 is only 5 million at that point. So it drops 15 million. So, um, Teddy Bridgewater is probably going to be there another year, at least for sure. And that's that's uh, that's my, just my. Prognosis. It's this tough. I mean, you were watching the games, you know, we had the big thing two weeks ago. PJ came in Thursday night football, you know, almost had the TD pass. You know, struggled a little bit. And then here again on Sunday, I just happened to flip it on before the Seahawks game. We, you know, we see Teddy go down again. PJ comes in and it's just so hard because there's so many XFL fans that are watching this. I know, you know, the riders and the fans and they see, yeah. PJ come in and you're like, Oh man, here we go. He's going to do something. And it's in. It's such a tough spot, you know, they were down huge and it's almost like an impossible, it's almost like a weight, like a lose lose. There's no way around it. And so you see him come in and he just can't. I mean, he just hasn't had the opportunity to get anything across and it's just so hard to be brought in. Like, you know, when you're just down and it's like, your team is just riddled with bullets and then you come in and you're just like, kind of thrown into the slaughter too. It's just really hard. And then on top of that, you know, Carolina is not going to be contender this year. I hate to say it eight, four. You know, Sheena told us to, to ingratiate ourselves with Panthers, Twitter. And I wish we could, but Caroline is just not going to make the playoffs this year. I mean, the NFC West is stacked. I'm looking at two teams coming out of the NFC South, potentially with Tampa Bay in new Orleans. There's just no way Carolina's going to rise above and get into that playoff picture. So. Uh, maybe it's a situation where you shut Teddy down for the rest of the season. Shut them down. Just give, give PJ's shot. Let's see what happens. What's what's gonna, what's gonna be the harm. Um, in letting PJ go the rest of the season. Then of course, when you have a quarterback, you know, it was making 17 million next year. You need to start him all the games. So maybe just get them healthy, maybe just heal them up, get them healthy, and to have him on the urn that 17 million coming up in 2021. It was interesting. The announcers are saying, cause you know, PJ was under a lot of pressure. Backpedal and running around and trying to do kind of his normal quick, you know, kind of escape, everything. And they said, you know, this is something you learned coming to the NFL, that you might be able to run circles around some of these XFL guys. But when you're in the NFL, there are real players that have real speed. And a lot of those guys can track you down. And PJ got tackled for a huge loss. You know, it was. Kind of ugly to watch. Cause you just see him kind of flailing around and you got, man, I just, you know, he was such a star and the accent foul and, and not to be negative on the guy and I'll use, I want him to succeed. And then when you see him come in and it's like both times now, you know, just, just. Can't get anything going. It's just, it's kind of heartbreaking. Yeah. And then, you know, we'll, we'll see what, we'll see what they do. We'll see what they do. Um, uh, you know, I think maybe that if PJ has given the ball from the start. Next week. Which could be the situation. If he's giving the ball from the start, maybe he is able to get something done. Maybe who does Carolina playing next week or are they off? No, their plan a. I've got it right up here. I should've had this Carolina, you're playing the lions. Yeah. Who also suffering from an injury. Now these efforts. Yep. Um, I guess what it's saying is, uh, I guess real we'll. Greer was getting some game reps. In practice with the first team too. So maybe real Greer becomes the starter who knows. The Panthers are really banged up. I mean, Christian McCaffrey. Looks to be out. Yeah, he's a, I think they said he's out for sure. On Sunday. The look. I hate to say this, but I don't think the Panthers. When another game until probably, well, they got the Vikings, the Vikings are trash, so they could win that game. But did you watch any of them? I promote with Kirk cousins, like marking out. When they won the game. You see that? Oh, yeah. I mean, Kirk cousins is like, He's very famous for marking out it's situations like that. Like he's the guy. I don't remember you remember the one he was with Washington, the Washington football team. Where he's like, you got to pray. You like that, then it's like you won one game, calm down, calm down, Kirk. I'm stealing from the city of Minneapolis for years. And I'm not really, I'm not a real big Kirk cousins fan. Well, I'm just saying he has a place on the Mark gas out to that performance on my neck. So that was. You as the biggest Mark out there, that was that. That was in residency. I like to watch in that game. So moving on, uh, what other XFL needs to be have? Um, we have this thing, uh, excellent new sub posted, uh, renegades coach. Jeff Judd's Jasmine. I hate name's Jed gods. Heading to Kentucky. I just, I posted that in the Google doc. I didn't know. I I'm such a college football is such a lack kind of spot in my mind. You have any thoughts about Kentucky picking them up? I don't know anything too much about Kentucky. I do know that, uh, they did lose their offensive line coach. Of course, Josh, Josh Davis, wearing the Kentucky. Uh, Jersey last week when we interviewed him. Um, and then of course they did a tribute where they took a delay of game. Uh, and then have, I guess they left a spot on their offensive line up. And I know this is all I know about Kentucky football. And it's not much, but that's good. That's good insight. So they did some great. Things to honor their offensive line coach who had passed away. And of course they're playing Vanderbilt. They got a delay of game because they didn't hike the ball and left. Love to position open on the field and Vanderbilt doing the classy thing. Um, Declined. The delay of game penalty in response to kind of, you know, Give a nod for this fallen coach, but maybe that's what maybe that's why a Jeff Jed Kinski. [unknown] judge. I don't, I haven't. It's a tough, it's a tough name. It's a tough name. So, um, hopefully, uh, maybe, maybe that's why he went to, uh, Kentucky used to fill that spot. It says move is necessary by loss of long time. Uh, coach. John's Grumman. Um, yeah, so that's a tough one. I mean, I know, I know Josh has got a soft spot in his heart for Kentucky football and I just get to see, I mean, just move these XFL coaches around, get them you. Get a move in. I mean, So many of these guys and with the spring Lake to have so much knowledge they're bringing is just, you know, trying to help people out and move around. So, all right. On the XFL front as well. Uh, Oliver luck has a, there's been a, ah, Bennett comp complaint. The long standing bankruptcy battle. Uh, there's been a, a amended complaint filed to the court. I guess luck is hearing, asking for a jury to hear this case. Yep. I love this. What do you think about this? I found this, I thought this is great. Interesting because normally, like these kinds of things are settled with a judge, but he wants a jury to hear this. Because I think Vince really messed him over and I think he wants, you know what I mean? I think, I think all of our, luck's got the sob story here that he's, he's out for blood. I, this is a gamble. This is honestly a gamble. Now you're now you're now you are giving your. Um, You're giving your potential, I guess. Winning's your, your whole case. To a potential like S you know, juror juries, I'm sorry. To a potential jury. And they could, they could hang, they could have a mistrial. As opposed to just having one judge. Determine whether or not Vince is in the wrong. This is, this is a bold move. We'll move Cod. Let's see how it works out for them. So bold move. I mean, I I've. I rarely hear about jury trials in terms of, uh, Civil lawsuits, like normally a jury thing is a criminal. Criminal. Issue. This is interesting. Aye. I don't know what the sob story, I think Vince's office rocker. I think it's so thin his E his grounds for termination for all of our luck. I mean, Basically you had it mounted to him going home at the beginning of the COVID and then all of her like hired. Forgive me. I can't remember the player's name, I think for the, for the roughnecks, but one of them did hire them out of, um, like offer them a little bit more money or whatever they come do a tryout or something. And now it was like all of our era that was Vince's claims against Oliver luck was that he went home early with COVID to be with his family. And he wasn't a V. It wasn't available. And then he paid a little bit of money to have one player come try out for the league. And that costs, you know, 20, $23 million or whatever, I guess that's that's the, the play here is that if you, if you argue your case in front of a judge, the judge is supposed to determine by law. Um, I S I now see, like, when I'm talking about bold strategy, I'm kind of changing my opinion, right. The fly. Yeah. You're, you're playing on human emotion here now. Now you're now you're involving people that aren't going to look at the law of the situation. They're going to look at the emotion of the situation. That meant that might be the play that might be while overlook us doing this. That kind of makes sense. Now that I think about it, I do. I think it makes a ton of sense since now. Now that I've take a step back and listen and go wait a second, where we're not relying on a judge to make a legal determination, we're relying on. Eight nine, 10. Emotional 11 emotional human beings. To determine whether or not. You know, Well, they're not even deserve this money and then they could, you know, they could potentially award him more money than he's asking for. That's another thing. That's another thing. Vince has it not a good reputation? I mean, I know you're supposed to get these people in that are, you know, Oh, I don't have any feelings or whatever, but I mean, Vince is kind of a bully. I mean, I think a lot of people know Vince is kind of a ruthless businessman. That's true. Alright, would that being said, I think we covered all the XFL news, right? Does that, that it for this. So we've got some other stuff we'll get into after all the spring league stuff, but I think we should, uh, I think we should kick it to Kent and then, uh, and then we should go to Brian and then we'll come back and give thoughts. All right. We'll we'll uh, we'll stop real quick here and pay some bills as the radio DJs used to say on the, on the air, the cliche. Uh, coming up after this though, Kent Shelby and, uh, Brian Davis going to join us here right on the XFL markets. Right. All right. The bottle is Teddy stuff here. You gotta do that again, though. All right. Coming up after we pay some bills, the cliche that radio DJs used to say. Uh, we've got Brian Woods and Kent Shelby, Kent, Shelby, and Brian Woods either way. We'll probably roll. Kent first then we'll talk to Brian next. Uh, we got them coming up after the break. Thank you so much, sir, for joining today, it's been a,it's been a busy morning with the spring Lake.Yes, it is. So how's everything going on your end day? IE.I saw you post some stuff this morning and it seems like there's a lotof activity going on. Yeah, I'm I'm doing good. I'm I'm back at home. I left the spring league on Wednesday after our game on Tuesday. Um, main reason was really just to, um, you know, Get my health back. And, um, I seen how the things wasn't really working to my favor. So I just said, I'm not gonna waste my time anymore. So it seems like there's some conflicting reports and I'm going to reach out to Brian Woods too, that, you know, we're going to reach out to try to get his side of it. Um, you know, there was a big story last week, you know, the coaches weren't getting paid, uh, XFL news had reported that, and it seems like, you know, he got that all taken care of. Now there's another just seems like there's another story coming out. Does it seem like we're kind of where there's smoke? There's fire. What are your thoughts with everything going on? Well, honestly, um, You know, I think Brian is doing a good job. If you don't market and advertise it, even though it may not be the right thing to do, if some of the things of how we're being treated. But I mean, you know, that's just part of. You know the business and, um, I totally understand that. D do you feel as though you were taking advantage of, or that you guys weren't, um, given kind of the full treatment that was going on, that, that maybe the money and stuff that people paid. What were your thoughts about that? Almost definitely. Um, you know, it was definitely a great opportunity, but I do believe that we were being misused mistreated because for one, you know, we football players, we need treatment. And, um, there's not really no way for us to get treatment. I had a conflict with my coats because, you know, I did was best for me and sat out a practice to get treatment because that's the only time I can get treatment. And he didn't like that about me. So he kind of had a little kind of. Love hate relationship with me. And it kind of caused some conflict within the team with me so long. Things like that. What's going on. As far as with the treatment, the trainers. Talking to the coaches and stuff like that. So it was, it was tough. Uh, there's been an issue where it's been rumored that some of the coaches were, uh, were not paid on time. Do you think that might've had anything to do with the relationship between the coaches and the players and why? Maybe the coach, I'm not trying to condone his behavior by any stretch of the imagination, but maybe that's, maybe that was kind of. He was your coach that you're talking about was kind of deflecting his frustrations with not getting paid on you and the other players. I may have possibly, I mean, I didn't really know anything about coaches. I mean, we was actually talking as a players as the team, as ADI coach is getting paid because, um, how they kind of wanted us to practice practice, practice. They didn't really allow us to get any breaks, no free time for us to get healthy. So I think that did play a huge factor and them not getting paid most definitely. So the video that came out today from your friend, talked a lot about, um, uh, you know, COVID policies and castings and things. Did you guys go through testing when you came into a district? Like the blank? No, we did not. Um, we, we didn't get tested till I wanna say, uh, the week after our first game. They said we were supposed to get tested before. I did get tested before and I sent that out to him, but I can't say the same for other players because you know, some players. Didn't show up. So they had to just get people to come in and like he says, some people showed up the COVID and his team was one of those teams that had it. So I'm pretty sure that, you know, that was true on his end. When you say you got tested, like you did that from your own. Before you came in and it wasn't until league. Okay. He tested us like, uh, the day right after our first game. All your kind of reaction to that. I'll just add. Yeah, Paul. Hi. Simply reacting. I was visibly reacting to the, the ball being dropped, because this is kind of a major thing that other professional sports have been able to figure this out. And it should, we we've had this, we've had this in the, in the. In the landscape for a year. Reasonably what they call it COVID-19 is because it came out in 2019. We've we've known about this for a year and other professional sports are able to do this. Why do you think that there's been such a. Ball dropping for lack of a better term. No pun intended. Uh, with, with testing with the spring league, why. W what's the money has a lot to do with it. They making some serious money. So I figure, you know, The more they make off the us. The less that they give back to us, even at, even at our health is affecting tours. Cause you gotta remember they was, they wasn't really feeding us anything. I remember my day I was leaving the elevator guys talking about, I need to eat some real food before the game. Because we out that, you know, going a hundred miles per hour in a game and we barely eaten before the game. They'll give us like one little sandwich. That's the equivalent of, you know, a snack. And that's before a game. So, you know, it was, it was just a lot. You know, the breakfast, wasn't all that sometimes, you know, they'll give us cold eggs, you know, some cold sausages. Like it was, you know, they, they treated us like we, you know, we wasn't really athletes, you know, This is almost like the Fyre festival of football leagues. It sounds like to me, like that's, when you're talking about one sandwich. It just reminds me of a picture of the Fyre Fest. The people posting the pictures of the one sandwich with cheese. Yeah, no. Exactly. This kind of reminds me of, and I don't mean to be in light of. This such missing. Cause it's ridiculous. Nonetheless. So, um, Yeah. So there's been all this con you know, it. The spring league, traditionally as a pay to play league, there's been a lot of, uh, Brian would saying this year that, you know, some people were playing at pain, not everybody was paying. Did you pay the participated in the spring league? And if so, how much did you pay? Uh, no, I did not pay for this one. I paid for a previous one in Atlanta. In September. I paid 1200 for that, but this one I didn't have to pay, but one of my buddies who actually did pay, they were supposed to be out there for three weeks. They were supposed to serve as like a practice squad. So if someone get hurt, they pull them from there. But they came in and they told them only three days. So they got the money from him and just told him it was three days worth of practices and they didn't even do a full team. They said they were supposed to have a game. All they did was one-on-ones. And some people got pulled from it. Some people didn't. And the reality of it was after those three days is over those guys' rooms was up. And some people were shacking in with other teammates, you know, that Ashley had a room pay for hoping to you. You know, stay around and get picked up by a team. Do you know, did other players pay this year to be a part of it? Yeah, they have some, yeah. Yeah. They said they paid 'em. I want us to $800. They have $800 because it was a showcase and it was the actual lead. It was two different things going on. I wasn't aware of that. I didn't find out till. You know, a couple people that I knew was in the showcase. And told me those things. What do you think a solution would have been to fix all the problems with this? Do you, do you have any ideas? Um, to be honest, I think, you know, just spend more money on us, you know, I think the more money you put out, the more money you get back. And, um, I think it's a reflection of, you know, The money that they put in on why we was treated like that. You know, they put in less money and knowing that they're going to get a lot back. So like I said, they just gave us the end of the spit. Don't get me wrong. I appreciate the opportunity. I personally didn't really need the opportunity because I'm planning a CFL and I kinda wanted to bet on myself, possibly get picked up from a team and I got my own brands, so I figured. I can do two in one. And, um, when I seen how I was being treated. It was like, you know, I'm not getting paid. There's no money coming in. I'm losing money. They don't even cater to your pocket. I drove out there, you know, they didn't let us Valley, um, they had a public park and the only way I got out of the public parking was I had to wait for somebody to leave. And drive right behind them. So like, you know, the parking wasn't accounted for. You know, And like I said, the meals was just all it's like, you know, we was homeless. The most that they fed us was cookies. They gave us about two or three cookies, each Bay. Well, at least your blood sugar was right, right. I mean, look at the bright side. I don't know, I'm spit balling here. I'm I'm clearly making no sense. Funny. As a former professional athlete myself, I just, I I'm, I'm blown away. And I know that. When I was coming up because I turned 42 this week, when I was coming up. You know, we, we didn't, we didn't. I guess the right word is like, the coaches were harder on us, but it seems like there's a level, there's a line and it's not a very fine line. It's a very thick, definitive line where it's between treating you like a human and then just treating you, like you're lower than that. And it seems like they're on the wrong side of that line. Oh, yeah, because also too with the buses situation. You know, it's six tapes, you know, you have each practice. Each team had probably about an hour and a half the practice. Then they got to get on a bus and come back to the hotel. So you can pick up the next group of players. Cause it's two teams that made there's two teams that practice together. You may not practice that day against each other, but you still at practice together. So, um, that was the issue with that. That state of bus comes late. Practice starts in 30 minutes, you got to get taped up. You know, there's already guys, that's already there before you that drove people. That's trying to get untaped from practice and get treatment. They only have about three trainers. So be honest, they probably only had two trainers. The other trainers didn't really know what they was doing because they was in school. So they couldn't really help you or serve as your certain things that you need. It. So, um, you kind of late for practice my team. We, we, we barely really stretch how we supposed to. We just jumped right into it. You know, some guys have a soft tissue injuries and stuff like that. So it was kind of, I can't speak for other teams, you know, because I don't know how every team was ramped, but my team, it was kind of like, Oh, you know, I'm not the one that complained. I'm a positive person. I'm thankful for a lot of things, but I know what I'm getting f****d over. Excuse my language. I know. That's that's totally fine. Um, there. So the, one of the things people do in this league is to get the tape, right? That's the main reason why players want to come participate is get this tape. Uh, in the video that the earth posted right today, it said that, um, he had been talking to people that maybe not all the tape is going to be sent out. Some of the coaches were alleging that, right. I mean, that's just kind of hearsay. Do you have any, had you heard anything about that? Have you had any conversations? To be honest. That's a good question because, um, a lot of guys that I played with in the spring league and an August, September, we've been trying to see, where was that tape back? You know, where, where did you exactly send that tape out? They didn't never really tell us exactly. They just said that they was sending the tape out. I probably need to do a better job of, like I said, asking them, which herb did. And that was the response he got. So, um, I'm really not sure what they do. I think that might just be something they tell us the ease, our mind and. We continue to play football. With technology, it seems like it's very easy to send tape out these days. You just. Pop pop a card in the computer and just upload it to YouTube. I mean, you don't have to do major editing work on, on a game tape that you're recording on the league. So, and especially the fact that they've got a Fox sports deal, it should be a lot easier. To get the tape out. So. Do you think he's just, do you think Brian's just over his head or do you think that there's, you know, maliciousness or negligence or where, where do you kind of put the blame? I mean, um, To be honest, you know, I know he's a commissioner. I mean, if I was to commission, I think I'll be more hands-on with my players. Um, I know him because, uh, I don't know, I just spoke. I know how to open my mouth and speak to people. Most players, they don't really have a great connection with speaking with people. So they wouldn't really know who Brian Woods is. And, um, a lot of people didn't know who Brian was, was he'll be in that same building and you wouldn't even know who this guy is. So I think personally he needed to do a better job of speaking to his players, letting him know. Who he is and how he can help. But, uh, Maliciousness and all that, you know, I can't really speak on that cause I don't really know his intentions, his, I think he's doing a great job that he did partner with spot Fox sports. So that is a good thing with it, but, you know, I think he needs to improve a lot more if you want some more people to come to this league. It's just hard because this is something that we've wanted to support, you know, that we've wanted to, you know, we started this podcast and accident fell. Obviously it's got delayed. You know, all this gives us something to talk about, players to watch, and we want to support this. You know, I'm trying to go to the championship game. If that ever happens here in, in early December, Paul shaking his head. Wait, I'm not going to happen. Um, but you know, so it's just frustrating when w when, when we want to support this league, we want to, you know, beef fans, and then we just see all this stuff come about. It's just really hard. I mean, what do you think, what do you say to people that want to support the league, but, but are you seeing all this stuff come out now? And it's like, wow. After a week of issues. I'm going to be, I mean, if you just want to see football, you don't really care what's going on and go forward. But if you really do have a heart in you and you really care of the players, I don't really think you should support this league because how they supported us. You know, they didn't really treat us how we really, it was supposed to be treated because we just played last Tuesday. We was originally supposed to play Wednesday without the TV game. They text us. You know, an hour before we had to get on a bus, some guys. At cryotherapy, some guys getting treatment and they just hit us with a text saying that we have to play on TV. You know, I'm not mad because you know, that was another game to be on TV. But at the end of the day, it's like, you know, they have to be more professional also that they did that with the practices as well. We were scheduled the set to be for a certain practice. But they'll tell us, Oh no, we moved it up or we moved it down without even really telling us. So it was a lot of unprofessionalism. Leon played out. I mean, you say, you say you can only speak for your team, but client. You're a player and you're in an era. We're going to a fraternity of players and. You have to have been speaking to other players on other teams. I would say, I'm going to safely assume this was going on across the board. Is that. Most definitely. I, I truly believe so. I truly do believe so. Is it scare you knowing and the lack of COVID protocol? Because I think that was the thing that shocked me the most about watching the video. I mean, just knowing that that was probably going off. But, you know, and here you've left, right? Like your home. I mean, did you go through any testing or anything? I mean, not to kind of throw you under the bus, but you know, The idea of it being a bubble. That's not really a bubble. Yeah, to be honest with the testing is actually a funny about that because, um, when we did get tested, we was on a bus making jokes. With other players, we was like, Oh, I'm negative. Uh, you know, we said we negative. So I'm not sure of the people who was positive that was scared to come out because of the possibility of them quarantine and, or having to stay in the room. You know, I don't know what happens when a player gets, uh, a positive result. I just know about the people that's negative. They just leave them alone. So I'm actually, one of our quarterbacks did get tested positive. And I won't put his business out there, but I mean, he tested positive twice. So right now he's in a room. Cause he cares about as well as his health. So he's in a room quarantine, and then it sucks because, you know, He should be at home with his family now, but he has to stay there. So. It's a tough situation. Sorry, just making notes. I, I kinda, I kinda want to beep that name out just because we don't, we don't wanna, you know, Breaking up. If you check my social media pays out, man, I'm all about keeping it real and being honest, I can't fake was really going on. I have to speak out on certain things. So it's all fine with me. I get that. Um, I'm just, I guess, what do you. This might be like random, but do you know what kind of testing you guys were going? Like, you know, to kind of test was a nose swab. Was it a PCR test? Bob with the nose spot 10 times, I think on each node. Put it in and the results came in like that same day. Rapid test. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. From what we, from what I've I've read and what I've tried to research. Cause you know, I'm not going to be one of those people on social media that knows everything about COVID like you see 90% of your feed, people just experts on COVID. Just like now they're experts on legal election laws and stuff like that. So, um, I guess like, The, from what I understand the nose test, it could take up to like 10 days for you actually to show up as positive. Do you feel like that might've, you know, That's still risking it. That's still risky. Bait and behavior. I may. Yeah. You know, I mean, but we know what we signed up for, so I can't really complain about that much, but I do know you do need to mask up because you know, some guys wasn't masking up there telling us. You know, put that pressure on other players to mask up, but it's like, I mean, I don't know what his, what his result with the masters. Some people they may can't breathe and they mask or whatever the case may be, but because they threatened us plenty of times about kicking us out the hotel. Because of guys not wearing mask and stuff like that. And then it was saying guys was taking too many meals at one time. Cause some people wasn't, wasn't, uh, being fed because of that. And I see why people was taking meals. You know, you gotta think about the old line, man. Like I said, if the mail wasn't enough for me, I'm pretty sure about that alignment that needs to eat. They eat that one little mill. Then on top of that, guy's going to water burger ordering out every single day. I know you didn't come out here with a lot of money like that. So it would be eating out every single day. You constantly lose that money. Then you may have the Uber to go get treatment because the first time treatment was at the hotel. The other two times it was at the stadium that we had to go to. So that's over into that. Then you have to go Uber to go. You know, Go get a massage. I mean, it's this. There was a lot of stuff, man. If you really wanted it, trust me, you was gonna make a way, but I mean, It's crazy. So, so I just have a couple more questions myself. I know that some of the fees that players have been playing that players have been paying have been paid by their agents that are trying to get them on. And [unknown]. Has there been any, have you discussed with any potential agents about what's going on? Do you know of any talks that have been going on? Agents out of here. But in the ages, I know the guys that's paying, that's not agents. You know what I'm saying? To guys who have agents, they should be planning. They should be there for free because some of them was getting, uh, You know, the top of the list for some guys that I know to actually deserve to be on a team that paid, they just got pushed out the wave because of the age. So, um, you know, if you was just a regular guy, you know, without really an agent looking for a real opportunity, you definitely paid for that. It just, it seems frustrating to me. And I was trying to find the info that we were talking about on the XFL. Oh, it's kind of Pharaoh and his he's got the players foundation. He's trying to work on now and talking about how this is the exact reason why we need to have it. If the USP. Uh, I'm trying to find it on here. Uh, the USPA and that they're trying to look out for players in some of these, you know, not the NFL, but a lot of these more, you know, um, not smaller leagues, but just not that you know, the NFL and to be able to look out for players like this. Cause they talked like when the AAF folded. You know, guys, we're having to buy their own plane tickets home. Right. And then we saw in the video that got posted today. You know, when the job posters and stuff, it looked like when they had their game canceled. You know, they were getting kicked out of the hotel. Right. They said, Hey, you got 24 hours or 48 hours to be out of here. So what do you, what do you think about having a league like era. Um, you know, I, and affiliation like that, looking out for players that are participating in a lot of these more niche leagues in trying to look out for your guys's will be in like the food, like the treatment, like all that. Um, I think it's a good idea. Um, I've actually, I know what you're talking about. Cause I get those emails and um, I didn't really take it too serious cause I didn't really think I was going to run to a situation like this. But now that I have, I'm more interested in it because, um, we actually needs league. We actually need something like that. So look out for us because um, the way that they treated us, man, it's just like, you know, people speak out more on it, then I think things will change. But if you, if you are cool with that, you know, and you don't speak out on it, things will continue to be the same and you have nobody to blame, but yourself. So, um, I'm thankful for you. You know, Kenny federal creating that opportunity for us. And I will connect with them. Yeah, the United football player's association. You FPA forgive me for not having that top of mind, but yeah, definitely trying to establish that to look out for this exact situation. Paul you got anything else? I forgot my second question. I'm so sorry about, uh, yeah, I do. We do definitely appreciate your time and appreciate you talking to us. Plug your stuff. What do you got going on? Otherwise, others. You said you have a clothing line just plugged that. Let us know what's going on with that too. Okay. Yeah. So I'm, you know, I'm basically like a motivational speaker. I just try to give hope to people. You know, a lot of people go through some mental things in life and, um, some people don't know which direction to go and how to get out of that mental capacity. So, uh, I just had my brand, failure's not an option. I'm standing HS and I'm just trying to preach people that, you know, You know what growing us now, you know, we ain't in the, you know, we're not in a child household anymore and it's the real world then. A lot of things can happen in that real world. So I just try to continue to help people, uh, stay positive and go get, go get what they deserve. Certain, just like something like this, you know, if you felt like you was messed over, speak out on it, so it can better for somebody else that participates in a next event like this, you know, Well, we appreciate your time. Definitely. I appreciate you guys for having me. I'd be happy early birthday. I'm sorry, I cut you off happy early birthday. I know that we, we pop this in and. So go out Friday, but thanks for hopping on before your birthday to do it. I appreciate it. When's your birthday. Uh, November 18th. Okay. Tomorrow. Okay. I'm on, I'm on I'm on the 20th. So. All right. Cool. Scorpio energy high. Yes, sir. Brian Woods want to thank you for joining us on the XFL Markcast. Talk about what's going on with the spring league. Of course, everything this week kind of blew up a little bit. What were your initial thoughts? Well, look, we've had a good three-week run there in San Antonio. I think the products look good. I think, um, you know, the coaches did a good job getting them guys ready now. In a very short period of time. But unfortunately just like everybody else right now, every sport league. And a sport organization around the country is dealing with the COVID. A pandemic. And you know, the one thing I will tell you is we did not come to San Antonio with told him we were clear from the get-go. We didn't even have our first positive case until day 10. And even then it was a little bit confusing because the player that wasn't questioned that tested positive. Actually tested negative. Uh, A day later, we send them home for precautionary measures. He then cleared to PCR tests and returned to us. Probably about six days after that. Um, and it wasn't until we too, a little later in week two, that we actually saw an additional case. So all in all, I think for the most part, things went smooth, smooth as they could go. But unfortunately you get guys in a hotel they're there for so many days. They start to get a little stir crazy. They're having guests in their room after hours. They're going out. Uh, you know, at times they're not wearing their mask. Um, so, you know, look, we did our part to try to keep, keep things safe there. And we had a good protocol in place. But ultimately COVID caught up to us. In, in, in this situation where we had a handful of teams. That had more than one test. And, uh, once we reached that one positive test, one positive result rather. There was a threshold that our doctors did not want us to exceed them. Two of those teams yesterday afternoon. We're pretty close to that. Uh, and then we just felt like in the best interest of the players and the safety of the coaches and staff that we could not in good conscience go forward and play those games, but we're still very much committed to playing the championship game December 2nd. And, um, You know, finish the season out strong. With that, with that championship game, though. Do you feel like you might have trouble? Uh, enticing players to come back to play that final game. Look, I think it's a fair point. I mean, a couple of things. One. The team that was the apparent, uh, lead champion, at least after week three would have been the general is the team that was the most affected. From a roster standpoint in recent days at the spring league was in fact, the generals. So two things here, we're dealing with one, making sure that these players are healthy enough to return. They're not suffering from any lingering effects of COVID. And to, uh, to your point, are these players going to be comfortable returning? Uh, unless we can make sure that everyone that's coming in. Uh, it would have to be even tighter. A bubble situation than what we had originally. So I think. Um, we're committed to playing the championship game. I think the players I met with the generals as a team. Uh, just a couple of days ago and they seem to be a very keen to return to play in the championship game. So I don't think it's going to be a factor of properly motivating them. But, but certainly. And I'm not just concerned with our COVID situation that we've experienced in recent days. And San Antonio, I'm very concerned with what's happening nationally and how that's affecting even the surrounding, uh, the state we're in, in Texas and the city of San Antonio. Yeah, because we, my wife and I had tickets to go to San Antonio in anticipation of, you know, obviously covering the game and going in and then buying tickets whenever they were available. And, you know, When all that came down yesterday. I mean, we, we went and got refunds and stuff because I just, I didn't know. And we were already kind of hesitant with going to Texas anyway, but obviously conduct. Make that decision, but so you are guys still committed to going forward without on the second. Yeah, we are. We're definitely committed. I mean, again, it's a very fluid situation with us right now. Um, but we feel like that we can create a safe environment. Look, we're not bringing back everyone. Obviously it would only be the two teams in a very limited. Uh, support staff on top of the coaches that are going to be there. But as of right now, we are, we are still committed to playing the championship on. On December 2nd. Are there. Are there any regrets I should? Yeah. I don't, I don't like to use the word regret because I don't regret much myself, but are there any regrets? Maybe maybe of like, Are there any things you could've done differently? Like hold it in a different state that had stricter COVID regular potentially, you know, I think I look, that's a fair point. Here's what we deal with. It's like a double-edged sword. If you do it in a place where the COVID protocols or the COVID restrictions. Maybe are a little tighter. Then that might be a state that shuts down a little quicker as well. So it was, uh, when we talked about where we wanted to conduct our fall season, as, as you know, this is kind of an anomaly for us. We usually, and traditionally have existed in the spring time of each year, but we saw an opportunity this fall. Uh, to give players an opportunity. And I think that the fact that there were no NFL mini camps, most pro days were, were, uh, NFL teams pulled their Scouts off the road before most pro days were in fact completed. Uh, training camp rosters were, were reduced in size. So we felt like we needed to be out there this fall to give players an opportunity that should have been in the camp. You know, a place to stay active and kind of continue to hone their skills, if you will. Uh, but, but again, going back to your question. Right now. I mean, I'm envisioning a scenario where we drop a turf field in the middle of a desert and bring players, NBA helicopter, because that might be the always safe alternative to what we're trying to do right now. So I think absolutely. Going into the environment that we were in and it was close to a bubble as possible. I really wasn't a bubble in the sense that a lot of what we. Ask for from the players was tough. You're asking these players too. Uh, self quarantine two weeks before arrival. Uh, asking these players too. Not venture outside the hotel property. I think after a few weeks, that gets hard to do. And look, we're not paying these guys. So even the, even the NBA players that are making millions. We're down in Orlando and they were really enduring a lot of psychological stress because of that bubble environment. And so I felt like the players would, would be responsible. They would wear their masks. They were social distance. Uh, they would, they would adhere to any sort of gathering restrictions and the city and in the state of Texas that we would be okay. But again, that's a lot to ask for. Um, You know, young men and I just think going forward, We would try to find an environment. That was a lot more conducive to preventing any sort of outside. Uh, interaction with our players, coaches, and staff. So some of the things that we wanted to also bring up is in the bubble situation. Uh, we had, uh, Kent. Uh, Shelby, come on and discuss some of the conditions that they were. They said the meals were inadequate, these kinds of things. So is that a team by team decision from the coaches? Or was that a league decision to have these things, these meals, and these hotels situations set up. Yeah. I mean, look again, this is never perfect. We're and this is where I think we get labeled and appropriately. We have a deal with Fox sports. Fox sports has really made our property. Uh, Uh, a very, uh, why should it say. Bye-bye more important they put, yeah, absolutely. They put us on the map. We, we had a lot of, had a lot of 'em. Uh, had our fair share of exposure in 2018, we had Johnny Manzell, but for the last two years, As you guys know what the AAF and the XFL being out there, we kind of operate in the shadows of that leaks. So a lot of people don't really pay attention to us, but yet we continue to get players. We continue to develop players, get a lot of players signed out of our league. Um, so I think that. Uh, People have to remember that the spring league is in fact, the dealing. We are sure. We're professional football league in the sense that our talent is good. I mean, I'd play guys for Fox. The top executives say, look, we're watching this. It looks just as good as XFL AAF, if not better. So I, so I think to make the argument that our product is inferior, I would never buy into that whatsoever. I think we've got a good product to sell. But I think people still have to remember. We're a AA and AAA baseball where the NBA G league. So we still have to do things with. In a very cost-effective manner without skimping. So we weren't skimping on testing that I can tell you, we spent a considerable amount of money. To bring a laboratory on site several times we were there and conduct PCR testing. We had one caterer service, the entire hotel. All of the six teams that were in that hotel. And again, they stayed at the Western river walk, San Antonio, arguably the nicest hotel in San Antonio. It's like a four or five star property. So the living conditions were good. The meals. I think it's more of a preference than anything else. I mean, what, what some people find is a, is. Uh, very. Good dinner. Other players might not seem so interested in, but we did not have the benefit of doing the traditional buffets that we would set up and doing a ballroom. And in normal circumstances. So all the meals had to be pre-packaged. They all had to be a bubble wrapped and so on and so forth. So, uh, if some players weren't, weren't happy with the meals. That's possible, but I would also tell you that the majority of the players that were there. We didn't get these kinds of complaints. The majority of the players that Ron site seemed to be very happy with their experience. They were happy with the meals. They understood what the opportunity was. They were more than, more than grateful or gracious as it related to the coaching they were getting. We had really good coaches there. So, um, I'm, I'm still very happy with what we put forth, but I think you guys can understand and can appreciate this as well. You're always going to get a handful of guys and just no matter what you do, it just doesn't work for them. And I can't speak to Kent Shelby's interview because quite frankly, I have not seen it. But certainly, um, if guys have been another leads before the Canadian football league and the NFL training camp. And they're accustomed to a certain type of, uh, uh, training table meal or the number of, uh, practice short-stay yet. They still have to remember that we're a dealer and we have to be cost effective than what we're doing. Got it. So the most, I think the most concerning thing for us that Kant said, and this is paraphrasing what he said that in relation to that, to the bubble and testing. It's Kent story, that when he entered, he was not tested from the spring league and tell the day after the first box game. That that's what he said. He said that he had paid to get tested on his own before he came. But from the spring league was not tested until the day after the first game. Does that sound like accurate or is that is not a misremembering? Mr memory or what would be that. That's accurate. That's the way, the way our protocol worked was. And again, um, we, we had positioned sign off on this. Players where to begin a 14 day quarantine period, even before they arrived in San Antonio. So they were expected to pretty much stay at home unless they absolutely needed to, to kind of limit their interaction with any other. Uh, family members or things of that nature. When they arrived, they had to show us a negative result. One that was conducted with preferably within the last 72 hours. Um, so we felt like. As long as we had that coming in and we had to quarantine periods on the players. Um, we were okay. Uh, based on the information we got from the positions. Um, We conducted the first test. I do believe the first task was conducted. Either prior to, or right after the first game, I'd have to go back and look at the dates, but. But here's what I would tell you. On that day, we had six teams or everybody was there at that point. So we had all our teams, we had all our coaches and our staff. We had over right around 300 players there. I ride around 300 individuals all together. Only one positive test came out of that first round. Only one, that one positive we're still not certain was a positive task because as I mentioned, the young man. Got a positive. Retested on the same day. Or a day later, rather 24 hours later. Tested negative and then went home. Was, we were unsure because his negative tests was a rapid test and his PCR test was positive. So he then subsequently went home. His family lived in Austin, Texas. Stayed there for a handful of days, clear to PCR test and then came back. So coming in was not the problem. Like I said, what I tell people is we didn't bring COVID to San Antonio. That's not how it happened, but we certainly had, I think maybe some interactions with players and outsiders or that might've gotten out of hand after we too. The other big question that's been raised online right now is now that the league has canceled the games. There, there might be players that have been in contact with other players that have tested or are sick or aren't sick. And now they're what is happening to them. Now that the games are canceled, there's been concerned that like they're having to pay to put themselves up in hotel rooms that they're having to pay it to potentially fly home, having been exposed what's happening to the players. Now that the games are canceled. Yeah. So that's, I appreciate, I appreciate you bringing that up. So. Essentially, what has transpired everyone was scheduled, even if all six of our teams were still there. Every one of our teams were scheduled over two weeks ago to go home today. So our last set of games for week four, we're all going to come on Tuesday. Uh, Fox wanted a double header. So we were going to play the non televised game earlier in the day. And then play the six o'clock and I believe at 9:30 PM central kickoff all on Tuesday. Everybody coaching staff players, they were all set to depart on Wednesday. However, as you know, We had a handful of positive results. Come back. Uh, on Tuesday morning. And so at that moment, we had to isolate those players. Not only do we have to isolate those players, we have to isolate their roommates. And then obviously we advise people that hadn't. Potentially come in close contact with those players. To get retested as soon as possible. Um, Players that tested positive. By no means were kicked out of the hotel and they were actually given the option. So in some instances, We did have some players that tested positive, but they did not want to quarantine in the hotel for the next seven to 10 days. And they made the decision that they drove and they were going to drive home. We spoke to our league position. He was okay with that. The only thing he was not okay with his players getting back on planes and flying home. So we right now have a handful of guys. I'm not sure how many right off hand, because I was just speaking to one of my ops guys here this evening. We still have a handful of guys that are remaining in the hotel. We are paying for that hotel bill. That is not something they have to pay for. Um, while they go through this quarantine period, and then they're being given the option. Um, if they want to drive home there, they're going to be allowed to drive home. But if they're considering flying. Uh, we are strongly discouraging that as a matter of fact, we, we really are trying to prevent them from doing that. Um, but there raises some questions there from us because we can't hold somebody against their will either. So hopefully that clarifies our position there. So would that being said, are you. Are you looking to potentially help facilitate any further. COVID testing for these players that are stuck in the hotel the seven, 10 days you say you don't want them to fly home. But there's a potential, like in five days they could come back and have a negative PCR test at that point. Correct. You feel like that'd be comfortable enough to let them get on a plane? That's correct. And so we, this has been the tough thing for us is as you guys know it, as the COVID has spiked around the country, We've even noticed it with our own lab that was coming on site. The results kept coming back slower and slower. Each testing. Because the number of cases around the country are on the rise. It's actually quite alarming. So yes. We, we do have a. Um, we do have kind of a protocol to follow it. Players can clear a negative test prior to their scheduled departure date. Then certainly we can allow them to go home before that. The problem we're running into is outside of bringing the community lab on site. Getting players into testing has not been easy as it was week one and week two, because everyone is going and getting tested right now. So we're doing what we can to facilitate that with, with local urgent care facilities. And it may even be a situation where we have to bring the community labs back on site. To do one more sweep of the guys that still remain. But with that, that's still a PCR test. And usually it takes about 24 hours to turn around. Some of these guys want instant results. What do you think is from your perspective, having gone through all this now? You know, try to make it be a bigger show this year, you know, with the Fox, with the li you know, multiple weeks, all the teams, all these things. What is your takeaway from this? Was this a success? How do you feel? What do you want to take away from the public to be about how, how these last four weeks have gone? Cause I know from our listeners and people online and the people on websites, there were a lot of eyeballs watching this. A lot of people were really excited. Like the play on that field, like you said, we're, we're exciting, thrilling games, lots of good talent. So what would you want the takeaway to be. I mean, look, I think ultimately the success I was trying to measure is now that we have a made for TV product, if you will. Now that we have this partnership with Fox sports. First and foremost, I wanted to make sure that my coaches could put together a good game plan. Uh, we did not have a lot of prep time going into week one. Um, so I wanted the product to look good on the field and I felt like it did. I felt like ultimately the product looked good. The only thing I'm disappointed about is, is, as I mentioned earlier in the call is that we couldn't finish week four. I was really looking forward to doing that. And I got to tell you guys. It was not an easy decision for me yesterday. Not whatsoever because on one hand I've got a media partner that I'm obviously trying to appease. But on the other hand, I have players, coaches, and staff that that's my, that's my main concern. I've got to protect these guys. Okay. So if anybody, if anybody makes any sort of reference, I get kind of a, I want to say I get a kick out of this, but I'm definitely amused. When I read things of. Uh, players claiming that they were forced to play and things of that nature, that nothing could be further from the truth. That's not as never been my position. If anything, I'm more of an advocate to the players then probably any lead commissioner. I really am. I'm there. And we created the spring, like to give guys opportunities because there's just nothing out there, especially right now. But I think that. Um, That's really my biggest disappoint is not being able to finish the season, at least a regular season. So I'm hopeful. I'm very hopeful and encouraged that we can come back and end on a strong, positive note. You know, with the championship game. Um, but I would also tell you that. I enjoyed the fact that we can keep players together longer than our traditional format, because I think for us, I'm really trying to make this a true D-League and every, every sense of the word or words. And that means for me. The players need to be with us longer. They can't be with us for a four-day showcase. They can't be with us for a 10 day league or a 14 day lead. They really need to do with this longer. You have nothing else to work with the NFL caliber coaches and develop properly. And we're really trying to make a big push into the international component as well. And bringing over players from Japan and other countries. Um, and that program is, is, is working for us and we're getting really good talent. Especially out of Japan. So, um, you know, I'm encouraged, I'm encouraged, but I'm also, I'm very mindful of, of, you know, what's happening with COVID. And it's not an easy thing to do to pull this off right now in the, the circumstances that we're facing with this global pandemic. So I think next spring, I would certainly put a lot more thought into where we're actually going to, to locate the spring league because that is going to be paramount. That's going to be crucial. Did did the video that came out yesterday that they're kind of. Started kind of started our interest in what's going on with this. Did that video play into your factor to shut down for the year? At all. You know, to be honest with you, I was making the decision yesterday, even before I saw the video. So the video and, and to be quite Frank. Uh, I watched maybe 20, so I watched the opening of it. And realized very quickly that it wasn't going to be a. A a. Uh, Positive thing for, you know, for the spring league. But, but certainly I'm very disappointed that an individual, instead of coming to me. To voice his concerns. She chooses to air grievances out in the public domain. So you're kind of disappointed by that, that individual's actions. Uh, but by the same token, I'm also not giving it a lot of credence because the things that are being mentioned in there. A lot of them are unfounded or not just disingenuous and inaccurate. So that, that video had no bearing on the decision I had to make yesterday. Got it. Two quick questions before I let you go. So are, is the goal to do something else in the spring now? Absolutely. That's the thing is box looked at this as a soft launch. Obviously when we first started negotiating with box, one thing you guys probably recall is that earlier, late in the summer, earlier in the fall, We were looking at a scenario where there was not going to be any big 10 football and it wasn't going to be any PAC 12 football. And really, it didn't look like the NCAA NCAA basketball season was going to start in time. So with that being said, Fox Natalie wanted to get involved with us, but they saw us as a, as a possibility where we could come in and potentially play this fall. Given some of the, you know, reasons I mentioned earlier is kind of a soft launch for, for next year spring league, because. It doesn't, it doesn't make a lot of sense. It's kind of counterintuitive to call yourself the spring league and operate in the fall. So that from a marketing standpoint, it's kind of hard to explain, but, um, regardless. I think that they were, um, uh, very encouraged by what they saw, they raved about what they saw on the field and we will return next spring. And a similar, if not bigger fashion, as far as the number of weeks, we operate in a number of number of teams that are involved. The only thing that we're not sure about right now is when that start date will be, because a lot of that. Has to do with the programming. So it could be potentially a February start. It could be an April start, but we don't have that information, at least at this moment. My last question. And then I would be remissed if I didn't ask the CEO of the spring league about this and I had you on the call. When are we going to get some merge? I need my pastor's Jersey. We have, we have an episode. Of our ass call it. Can we please get rid of Jasper's Jersey? Like episodes? This is the thing. When, when are we gonna spring Lake merge? And this is a real question. Um, listen, when we're offline here, you guys email me your address and I will not only make sure you get merged. I'll make sure you guys get a game ball and I'll have official jobs for his helmet. Because, let me tell you something that is a very, very unique knit or very much so. I'm I'm disappointed that the gestures were never able to appear on television and listen. I understand that, that, that the individual that posted the videos today was unhappy. That was clear that he was unhappy. And I think part of it was. They didn't get to play on television once. And I can understand that I can understand that frustration. Uh, not to the extent that he aired it, what certainly I can understand the frustration. And I was, I was disappointed that the jouster is didn't get a chance to show their unique brand and Mark to the world. So. Uh, certainly we can get that merchandise for your guys. That won't be a problem. They were our team. I picked him in the preseason and we, we, we got, we got shut out. I have a hard time believing that you pick them in the priest. I'd go back and check the. I swear. I hand on a Bible. We picked it. We have that. We had bets going with a lot of the different podcasts and other people online. And we, we, we have the Jasper. If you guys had reached out to me before you aired that or before the season started and said, Hey, where's, should we go? That might've been the last team I told you, but here's why. Here's why? No, I'm serious. Even the head coach for that team. That was the last head coach hire that I had. They were actually the last concept, logo, branding, everything, everything kind of came late together for that team. Now, again, When we pick the team name and when the branding was done on that team should have no bearing on how that team performs, but certainly, um, You know, the head coach there, Chuck Bresnahan to his credit, he had the shortest period of time to assemble a staff and really get ready to play. So he did not have, he did not have an easy road. I mean, unfortunately. Uh, you know, coach present hands team was the one that was afflicted. Uh, by COVID so quickly. So it was a, it was, it was tough, but I'm, I'm, uh, Aye boy, uh, kudos to you guys for picking the jowl stairs to take the lead championship. That's great. Saw the logo come up. I said that is, I mean, we're the Markcast. I said that is our team QA. So, yeah, we're ready. Yeah. All right, Brian Woods. We want to thank you for your time. We appreciate you stopping on addressing some of the, some of the issues, some of the concerns. And we'll definitely look forward to the spring league coming back in the spring. Absolutely guys. I appreciate it. And anything you want to have you back on? I'm more than happy to do it. We really appreciate it. Thank you again. Want to thank Ken Shelby and Brian Woods. For joining us here on the XFL, Mark has talked about the spring league, hopefully that, that, uh, that kind of, you know, clears the air in and gives a better understanding of where we're supposed to go with a spring league. And, uh, I, you know, I don't think the story's done yet. No, and there's always going to be a mix of emotions. There's always going to be a mix of opinions. You know, the story came out. A couple of weeks ago with it, with the pay off. I'm paying the coaches and everything, you know? There's. There's always going to be mixed opinions on this. And so I, I think it was important to get both sides, you know, some time to share their thoughts and feelings. And I thank you so much, you know, for Brian to come on and share his thoughts as well. And, you know, to that point, it's like people were rushing the XFL to come back. And I think that's, this is like the case study for it. This is exactly why. Yeah. And I, I kinda, I was eating dinner last night and I kinda just pondered down some notes in the Google doc, not to be overwhelming, but just, I was trying to get some stuff out. Cause I was thinking a lot about this. And this is exactly why they didn't rush the XFL. And as soon as they had the spring league was coming out. Obviously a lot of people are posting stuff in the XFL and you know, there's lots of X about Facebook groups. I even have people on Twitter messaged me. Well, why couldn't the exit poll come back spring leads do with it. Why couldn't the extra belt come back? And, you know, my thing was always, this is a much, much, much smaller thing. You know, this is six teams over four weeks at one location. This is an eight teams. A lot more support staff involved with the XFL, but this is exactly why this is why they didn't rush it. You know? If you don't follow those proper protocol, you're gonna get, you're gonna get caught. And this is an example of it, whether it was carelessness or, or things happened, but obviously something slipped through the cracks and this is what happened. So. Yeah. I mean, that's. You know, we were kind of like going, Oh, 20, 21. We were both excited. We're like, God, I hope they come in 2021. And now, now this kind of gives us perspective where we're like, okay, I guess this is. This is good. This is good. That, that we're, we're being smart about this and not rushing. You know, to, uh, to provide a, uh, XFL season in 2021, we're going to wait until 2022. And actually have a full season is time because I feel confident in saying this. I think we've got this COVID thing under control by then. It's going to just throw it out there. Lord help us well, but that's the thing too. And when you have such a small league, Like this spring league or like the exit value, you know, it's one thing, you know, NFL. Okay. You know, like the Titans. Okay. They can delay it, you know, back earlier in the season, they can, we can delay a game. We can make it up later, all this. I mean, this really shows yeah. They had the, you know, two teams or whatever with cases, and then they had to shut everything down. Cause there's no other games to play. There's no other teams to move in. There's no other things to move around. And so it's. You get to the point where you go, we got nothing else to do. You know, we got that. We kind of got to pull it. Yeah, we can't be moving stuff in to kind of fill the schedule in and then kind of make that stuff up on the back end. I mean, you got four weeks, you've got six teams. They had already lost, you know, the Jasper is because of it. And then the conqueror is, and then you get, you get to this point, you got nothing else to do. You know, you kind of got a cup of eight, so. Yep. I think with the NFL, you have a little bit more flexibility there. If you need to know that's true. And with that being said, you know, They come in, come back in 2022. Of course read you can get, probably get your season tickets at century link again for a Seattle dragons. But. Hopefully they re-institute a re-institute re-instate I can't speak today. I'm having trouble. I'm I'm so fatigued. I'm so wiped out. Hopefully they reinstate. You're a season ticket merchant discount. I know you're a big fan of Merck. Well, I forgot to tell you about this. When we were doing the XFL segment, this is a true thing. So I was going down the other night because as I do. It's just looking at the exit I'll shop.com. Let's see what was going on. You know, we're fans here. And, uh, they, they had like this dragon lanyard and I thought, Oh man, I'm going to pick up a little like nine box. I'm going to pick up a dragon lanyard. Oh, Hi, Mark. From. And I went in because when you got, if you got season tickets, spoiler alert, I mean, it was the loss. Why is my, my Facebook is closed. Why is my thing? Messaging me. How is that even possible? Everything is closed out as so weird. Really I'm like asking for like a text report here. That's very odd. Um, we spoiler alert. It was. The the, the worst kept secret in the world. But if you had season tickets, With the XFL, you got a season ticket code for 20% off all your merch sales. He was like, see ticks 2020 or something. And I went on to play it in and it didn't work. So someone is at work with rock and Danny and all of them and they, and they took that code out. So are you mad? Very mad. Why didn't it means they're making stuff about it. I mean, it means that they're, they're making moves and doing staff and they were like, well, we're going to turn that crap off. We don't need to be given out a way, but because I didn't buy it, then that's, that's the moral of the story is I didn't buy the land here cause I couldn't get my 20% off. Wow. A whole 20% off, dude. Wow. Yeah. Wow. You didn't buy you. You do my lanyard cause you want, wow. Wow. Wow, bro. Really? Yup. Why are you Michael pain right now? Is that what's happening? Is that what's hot in the streets. Hey, he listens to every house. Had a beautiful. Uh, but here going back to the spring Lake, I hear, what do you think about this? So the rock and Danny are watching this. They're watching everything unfold. What do you think they think about the spring Lake? Cause you know, they're watching. Um, I think they're just looking at it in terms of a potential player pool. I don't think that they I'm sure they don't have, maybe there's a little bit of like a secondary reasons. Like yep. See we're doing the right thing. The smart business idea to. To postpone it a year. See you look at us, we made it a good decision, but I don't think they're looking at it and judging it completely. I just think they're looking at it. Like, let's see what talent is excelling here. And I, and here's another thing about the whole. You know, pay to play thing. It's not a vanity league. It's a pay to play to get your tape, build bla bla bla bla bla. Um, Anybody who paid to play in the spring league is probably going to be invited to work outs in the XFL and, and have a chance to make a roster there too. So this is a situation where I just think they were probably just watching and sit back and, and. And basically looking at the players on field and not necessarily the drama or, uh, you know, I'm sure there was a secondary, like, yeah, we did the right thing, but I'm not sure that drove them to watch this. This go down. Well, I also think that it's, it's going to maybe make sure that they obviously, that they were going to take care of their players anyway, but I think it's going to make sure that they don't let things like this happening to their players. And this is something else I saw. On Twitter last night is so a lot of these players now that, you know, have been potentially exposed or, you know, are sick or were with other teams that were sick, they now have to either fly themselves home. Potentially at risk. Or they have to pay to keep themselves in, you know, in a hotel or air B, B, or whatever in San Antonio. And I saw a lot of people online last night, worrying about this and thinking like, man, that sucks. I think that you were going to, you know, not only can you not play now, but now you actually have to pay to quarantine yourself down here, you know, away from your family. You can't get home for 10, 10, 14 days. It sounds like some AAF stuff. Like, remember. Well, the AA I've had all those issues where they wouldn't even, I don't think they flew anybody back and they just, they just shuttered everything and didn't even say anything. It is stranded him, this kind of the same situation going on here. And it's, it's unfortunate. It definitely is unfortunate. There's going to be a lot of talk now, and I've already seen a lot of chatter. And we talked about this with camp, but with carrot kind of Farrow with the, um, United football player's association and just making sure that there's a voice and the league, that's going to be looking out for these players because th there's no protections here. You know, they come in. They're putting their bodies at risk, all these other things. And then, you know, the, the, the plug gets pulled and then they're kind of Sol, you know, they're stuck down there. They, you know, they, they, they got to pay to get home. I mean, it's, it's a messy situation because the NFL has a players' association, a union, but these other. You have to be on an NFL roster to get on that union. And that's, you know, that's, that's probably the bigger need here is that these, uh, these, uh, these, these players need a union outside of the NFL to kind of protect their rights. You know, there's a lot of talk about unions going on right now with, uh, With not only this, but with WWF WWE as well. Um, and, and, you know, This is, this is, this seems to me like a glaring need. For these players that are playing, you know, arena football two, you know, there's an arena football league and I'm not sure that they have, they have a union that's that's, that's something else that I've never looked into to see if they have a union that protects the players in arena football league. So. Maybe just maybe the United football player's association. Uh, might be the way to go about things. Yeah. I mean, it's a physical game, you know, you're putting a lot of wear and tear on your body. There's a lot being asked of you. I mean, we need to protect these people. And that was why, you know, when the rock came in, you know, as an athlete and that's what they said, that's a, he and Danny said that they were going to put the players first, you know, build, uh, uh, uh, the culture of the game and to make sure that these players are taken care of and that Neo not only their mental, but physical wellbeing as well. I mean, it's really important when other question I have for you was. Do you think that there's going to be a championship game into something? No. I think it's done. Yeah, I think so. I think it's done. I think, you know, you're not going to have any regrets about canceling your San Antonio stuff at all. I think it's a wrap. I think, I think asking players that have just gone through all this and then gone up. No. Can you come back, we're going to win an award, a trophy to one team, and they're not going to do that. None of these players are coming back. This is a wrap. And I'm not sure it will come back with, with Brian and in charge of it, you know, I'm not sure that's going to be an option. I'm not sure any of these players are gonna trust him. I saw some chatter online that this was a camp. That tried to, you know, obviously evolve into a league and it just, they felt like it. Overstretched what it was trying to be. And this is kind of where all the trouble got into. Do you, I mean, do you feel like, cause cause in years past, you know, it was, it was like a two day thing. It was a one game thing. It was a little scrimmage thing. It wasn't this for team moving players in and out in COVID in the thing and the bubble, all these other things. The Fyre festival analogy that I used with camp is accurate here. It is completely 100% accurate where they didn't stay within their means. They promised way too much. Way too fast. And didn't think about the logistics behind it. Like let's do illegal, let's get a TV deal. And they're only thinking about money. It seems like there were only thinking about the money at the end of the day and not about. Well, let's do a responsibly. I mean, these, these startups, and I'm not saying the spring league is a startup, but it, it kind of is on its infancy, infant infancy. I cannot speak today. It's on its infancy. And, and, you know, you've got a situation where, you know, You've already shot yourself in the foot, as opposed to starting slow and building and building and building. And maybe in five years, get the TV deal. You have to have sponsors behind this to kind of take the L for you for a while before you can actually turn a profit and give those sponsors their money back or, or their investors, their money back. And it just seems like the car was put before the horse. It just, eh, The firefighter, Fyre festival thing, and just kind of rings true on this one. Yeah, I think, I think a lot of people and we're probably, I'm probably guilty of it. I think a lot of people thought. Oh, it's a spring league. It's a thing they're going to do all this stuff. I said in years past, it was more of a developmental thing. And I think we maybe expected a little bit more than they were ready to do. Right. And where it is supposed to be more getting taped, getting wraps, all those things. I think people just expect it a little bit too much. And whether that was you have the league's fall for promising that, or for projecting that, or people were just too super hungry. Okay. We didn't get the XFL, but this is the next best thing, you know, we, we just need something right now. Maybe that's part of it too. I mean, maybe we were all guilty of kind of propping it up too. Right. I mean, I don't know. Are we to blame? I don't, I don't know. I just think that we needed stuff. Like we wanted, we wanted to be the voice of the alternate football leagues. And we wanted to start to talk about. But I don't think it was a situation where we were like, Where people were pushing it. We're just like, we need something to cover. And this is going on. So why don't we cover it? I don't think it was a situation where we were demanding that they do a full on league. That was worked out. Those, those deals with Fox sports were worked out. Long before we got involved in this and interested in this. Am I wrong? No, my fear is this was, you know, originally I believe they were planning to do another reincarnation of this in the spring. And now my fear is obviously that this is all, um, That there'll be a little bit of negative connotations about it, because I think you can T. You know, I think you can, it's really easy to say. Okay. It was Covitz fault. I don't know if that was 100% Covitz fault, this, all of that. You know what. Where, like, I think that the XFL. Back in March very much like that was Covitz fault. Like very much that if it were not for COVID XFL would have had a complete season, we would have crown, probably the roughnecks as a Champion's PJ Walker would have been MVP. I don't think, I think COVID, you know, That and that alone halted all of that, where I don't think that this was necessarily all COVID cells. Right. And I mean, you know, the AAF, when it folded, there was no COVID around to blame. For the folding of day there's mismanagement and. Was COVID a factor in this. Yes, COVID was definitely a factor in this, but. Hearing can't describe the meals they were given. It was clear, there was some disorganization going on and maybe COVID just accelerated the inevitable situation where. This was going to fall apart. It's hard to keep it all together. You know, I mean, look at the NFL, you got more money in the world. Behind the NFL and they still have trouble, you know, they're still running into problems. I think the Rams, one of the Rams just. Iran today. Right. It came out and said, you know, that they got to isolate. I mean, this is a big, this is still an issue for everybody. And so. Except the Seattle Seahawks. You want to point that out? The Seattle Seahawks are the only NFL team. To not have had a player go into the COVID protocols. Russell goes home that Sierra right. Yeah, but I think Russell's responsible to. Oh, yeah, I think I, I, you know, I think, I think Pete commands a little bit of respect for that. And I think that they kind of say, Hey, let's guys, let's keep this, let's keep this. I mean, I think I do think the Seahawks have a pretty good, pretty good crew guys, you know? If they need my opinion, but I think they do. So I saw you got cracking tickets to, I did. I did. Uh, so spoiler alert, Paul, we. We are going to be starting a new crack in gas. No, just kidding. Let's get you. I don't know anything about hockey enough to do a podcast. I am excited for this. Uh, you know, the crack and, uh, was going to kind of be the XFL is my first love. The dragons are my first love. And then when that all folded, they had just announced, you know, this yellow crack and an iPad. Okay. Maybe this could be. Something that I can hang my hat on. And, and, and there's a lot, there. There's a lot of hockey history. I don't know a lot of that. I know that cm punk likes the black Hawks. That's about all that I know. And so. The team is what's your [unknown]. The devils. Yes, yes. The devils. And so, but, but we did get tickets. We got, we went on yesterday, we had Ross, he was a fantastic ticket representative. We got, we got to look at our seats and we are 22 were like the red line. So we're, I don't even know what that means, but we get half the games and we are season tickets now for the crack in the army. Congratulations on that. Um, if the devils come up and play. I'll definitely have to come up in a. And then hang with you guys for that to see the devil's play. Got. I have the pleasure of Rena. Uh, did you see the alternate reverse retro hockey jerseys? These looked awesome. You know, people are dissing the devil's one, but as a devils fan, I love it. I love the green. I love everything about it. I had people are going to talk crap about it. I love the green and the red. I know it looks like. Yeah, I know it looks like a Christmas tree or Raphael from the teenage men in the unit. Ninja turtles. I don't care. I love the green jerseys. But the devil's came out with. I was sat on there because you know, the cracking don't have one yet because we're not, you know, I, I I'm telling you, I like cracking. People are dying for some merge. If they can get some jerseys out staff. I know. And I think what's going to happen. I think this is going to be wildly successful and they're going to do it again. And when they do it again, Um, there were some, there were some mock-ups that they were doing where they could like Institute, because I don't know if any people that don't know the history of hockey in Seattle. Don't know this. Seattle actually won the first Stanley cup awarded to a us team. That's right before the Seattle metropolitans won the Stanley cup back in 1917. Every Stanley cup winner was North of the border. The Seattle metropolitans were the first ones to bring it South of the Canadian border. And I think, uh, embracing that Seattle metropolitans, uh, history and lineage. Well, we'll be an interesting play. If they decide to go ahead and roll out a reverse retro going forward, they can bring out those striped Seattle metropolitan jerseys, and maybe read can look one up and pop in here, right on the video version, maybe pop one of those stripes, Seattle metropolitans jerseys up, but change the color scheme to represent the new colors of the cracking. I think that will look interesting. This was, this was a, uh, The more, you know, moment with law. Like educating people like I do on wheelhouse, like, Oh, guess what this happened? And yeah. It's, it's, it's definitely cool. And another thing that I wanted to kind of. Um, I'm I'm I'm on my soap box. You put this in the Google doc. First thing I go, Paul is on it. I'm so upset by the amount of comments that have come online after, uh, the Marlins made their GM higher. Of course, Kim Ning. Is, uh, unexceptional. Exceptional higher. And people are. Just saying it's something stupid. Like, Oh, this is the woke higher. This is the affirmative action hire. No, no, no, no, no. If a man had the resumes that Kim had. They wouldn't be in a GM 15 fricking years ago. This woman has won world series as an assistant general manager, she's been to numerously championship series. She's been an executive with the Dodgers, with the Yankees, with the Yankees. Of course, you know, that that is the standard. You're, you're an executive of the Yankees. You're you're in the, you're the upper echelon of executive. Uh, jobs. So for people to say that this is an affirmative action hire. You need to check yourselves. You don't know anything about baseball and you don't know anything about what this woman has done in her almost 20 years in the sport. This is a great hire. This is not a woke higher. This is a perfect hire and it's a perfect time and it should have done years ago. And I'm so glad that Kim's got the chance. To take the Marlins organization, which is on the upswing. Thanks to of course, Derek Jeter. Um, and, and this is just great. This is just amazing. And I want all those people that are saying this is affirmative action to shut their mouths, because this is, this is, this is what needed to be done. So she's the GM of the Marlins. Yes. And so it's an Asian female. Yeah. As, and people were criticizing and saying that they did it for the publicity versus that they were doing it because she was going just to give I like contacts. Contacts, but that, but it is, and, and I saw it all the same stuff you did. Right. And I don't know if it was you sharing the edge or I saw it too, but like, yeah. But we're all, you know, look at them. They're trying to get, you know, the, the gold star, whatever. And it's like, no, it's, it is okay to hire people because of qualifications. Yeah. It's amazing. What will happen when you look at a resume? You know, it's amazing what happens when you don't. And I know Jeter did have a relationship, not like a personal relationship, but a professional relationship when he was with the Yankees as a player. And Kim was an executive with the Yankees. I know that there was a professional relationship there. I know that. So [unknown]. Familiar with her already. And her resume puts her over the top. Even if Gina didn't have any knowledge of her in a professional setting like they do with the Yankees. There was a resume here. And that is the point is that we shouldn't care about. What looks good to, you know, a crowd's like demanding equality. This is like, This is equality. And it's it's talent. It's qualifications all wrapped into one. So let's tone down this idea that this is an affirmative action. Hire. Shut up. This is a great hire. This woman should have been a GM 15 years ago. Kudos. There you go. That's good. You got that there and I'm glad. Yeah, I I'm just, uh, you know, baseball's my sport. And I just wanted to address it. I just, I thought that like, this would be the perfect form, cause I'm not really talking about it on a wheel house. So, this is probably the perfect forum to discuss this. And I think that, you know, I'm I'm I guess I'm educating them on a pulpit. I'm going to step back now. So we'll let you talk about something. You want to talk about something that read? Cause I'm done talking. Uh, here's so here's my thing. So. It's your birthday Friday. You know, they have the podcast. I just have this. This week, you know, we, we try to get the rocks attention on here. A lot of extra fell people try to get the rocks attention. You. All you have to do is post a video of you cheers in the birthday with a bottle of tear mana and the rock. We'll retweet you, quote, tweet you. Cause he did it. I'm not drinking anymore. That's why we got to hypothesize here. So. That I just, I'm just presenting you the facts and you can do whatever you want me to, but these are facts. The facts are the rock owner. The XFL owns ed he'll accompany term on it, but it'd be really good. He also retweets people when they do birthday shots and post them on Twitter. So what do we do with this? Do we call, did we call Kent Shelby up? Is Kent Shelby coming in and doing that and doing. Tequila shot. I mean, what are we doing here, Paul? I will, I will figure something out. I will figure something out. On Friday. Um, we have an interview for wheelhouse on Friday. And I'll do something on Friday to kind of, you know, give a shout out. And I mean, I don't know if like I'm probably not going to finish the, finish a bottle of term on it, but I don't know about, I don't even know how much this is. Are you drinking on your birthday or not at all? No, I wasn't planning on drinking on my birthday. Okay. If it, if it means that we can, we can publish or publicize what we're doing here at the Mar cast. I will do something with term Toromont. Armada to some effect, you can get a tear mana, uh, Blanco 34 99. All the wines. You can get a RESPA Sato. 32 99. BevMo. So wide. Today, my wife, my wife's a Spanish teacher. It's okay. Yeah. She should, she should work with you on your Spanish. [unknown] Puerto Rican. I'm Puerto Rican. We can't roll ours either. It's a thing I get Nydia makes fun of me for it all the time. She's like, what was that? You just said? I'm like, I know our artists sound like ELLs, but, um, yeah. [unknown]. I might pick up, you know, a Blanca, I like a light, like maybe mix a little margarita. And just kind of post a video and, and, and celebrate the Mar cast. And. Let me post it. We need to post on the Mark has to count. I'll do the video, like a Tik TOK or some stupid crap. And then you pleat do a fleet. No, I'm not doing a fleet. No, no. You could do the fleet. I'm not doing a fleet. I refuse to do fleets. I am militant. I am standing against this. No fleets. I texted you last night were, were in the boat of this content now of the Markcast, if you haven't figured that out yet. So I asked her at the last night, cause all this stuff came out with the fleet. And people are fighting. You know, freaking out, they thought it was dumb. All this stuff. I said, uh, I'm trying to even find, find a tax. Where did I lose it? Didn't I did it not transfer to, Oh, I said, I asked her at the, I said, Hey, so Twitter just announced that they're going to be doing stories like Instagram stories on Twitter. What do you think it's called? And she goes, is it a Tweety? And that was that. But that to be fair, it would make more sense than calling it a fleet. Is that, is it cause it's like a fleeting tweet. Is that why they're calling. We're calling it that, okay, this is what we have Instagram for or Snapchat. And not even, I don't even use Snapchat anymore. Just like died quickly. Once Instagram stole their idea. Snapchat kind of died. It died a slow death. I don't even use a Facebook stories option that much. I use it. Once a month, if that, if I think something really needs that audience, I'm like, I'll, I'll share it on the Facebook story. But other than that, like I'm not using fleets to do Insta stories. Just stupid. So stupid, terrible. Um, can I talk about my house before we go? Yeah, of course. What do you think? Nice. They're nice. I'm glad we got that all worked out. And I got, I grabbed a bunch of concerned. I was super concerned because we added them to the site and I was like, I hope these don't mess up for Reed. And I'm glad that they're they're there. So, yeah, so, so, uh, these are all good to go XFL, um, show.com/merch. We have this nice screen one, which it doesn't quite match the dragons, but you know, Jason, it's still green adjacent. We have this like cool maroon one. Very one. That's very nice. That's like. Like Clemson, right? Like Clemson, if you're right. Like Clemson. Wasn't. Isn't there a football team, like the Clemson there. I grabbed it. They have orange though. Oh, okay. Well, it's like a Crimson, maybe like maybe you're a wazoo fan. Don't tell Dorothy. We got this one, it's like a blue and gray looks good. And then we've got this one, which is what I had before with the FDIC. Logo, but now it's all set. It's just like black and white and there's lots of other colors. I mean, there's like a ton of colors. Yeah. All right. Reid wanted all the options for colors. So I'm pretty sure this is not probably going to be the last hat purchase read makes. He's probably gonna get every single shade under the rainbow. So, yeah, it's good to see that they came out really well. I'm really impressed. I'm glad we finally, this was like a 13 week ordeal. It really was. And I'm glad they finally came out. I'm glad they're finally doing quality assurance. I'm glad they're finally happy about. Uh, taking care. I'm glad they're finally proactive in taking care of their customers. So hat's a great reap. Thank you for all your hard work. Yeah. Dorothy goes, what are you gonna do with all those hats? I said, w wear them on the podcast and in my life. And just all the time. It's advertisement, man. Like you're going out to brunch. You're going to wear a Markcast hat people are gonna say, what does the XFL Markcast? For the XFL shut down and then read can be the teacher instead of Paul for a change and read go actually, and then explain the Markcast. Yeah. I mean, they're really good hats. I mean, I kind of had my hood on, but you know, you got the. I mean, they're good. All of them. There. So there you go. So would that being said, we want to thank everyone for tuning in this week, we had a great episode and of course, exfil show.com/review to review us. We prefer, we prefer Apple podcast and we appreciate your reviews. Also, if you want to buy some of those hats, some shirts. XFL show.com/merch. I want to thank, uh, Brian Woods and, uh, Can shove it. Kent Shelby for joining us today. And next week I promise I'll get my coffee before we recorded and I'll be wide awake. I'll be good. Thank you, later.

XFL Markcast Episode 14 - Garrett Gilbert = The G.O.A.T.? (ft. Sheena Quick and Josh Davis)

Are you happy with your hat now? Are you happy with a hat? I tell ya. I was washing my hands last night in the kitchen and it was dark outside. And I could see, you know, it was like a mirror. I could see my reflection. I like to drive it. I said, this is a good looking hat. I'm really happy. I really thank you for the patients. I think 13 going on 14 weeks paid off. And yeah, I think it looks great. I mean, sometimes I was worried that this was going into a situation where it was going to be a nine month process. Like it took you nine months to birth the kid. You get nine months to make a perfect hat. And, and I know Reid, you tend to be on the, a. The OCD side of things. And if one stitch was out of place, you'd have a problem with it. It's fine. I understand your quirks. It's it's who you are. We accept you for who you are that you're born this way. As lady Gaga would say, God got man. I've posted that hat online now, going to exit. Com slash March. I did it last night since I was, uh, working within the friendly confines of my building. I had plenty of time to do that at plenty of time to send out more masks again. How do you get a free mask from us? You can go to exit fellow show.com/review. And I don't know. I think we were just catching up on their reviews this week. I don't know if we had any new ones come in. If, if we Dan, I, I certainly appreciate it. I'm going to look right now. But, yeah, I just, you know, if you're an exit fell fan, if you're a spring league fan TSL, we're going to be talking with Josh today about that. Uh, we really appreciate you taking the time to leave us reviews on XFL show.com/review. We did have, we had to come in, we had Jenna left her review. She said, I love the exit fell. I was wearing my Renegade shirt. I have my renegades flag on the wall heartbroken when it ended it's back. This podcast is excellent for news. Uh, rumors and they are fans as well. So that helps with us all, having something in common. I can continue to listen. They're not just serious about sports, but they are funny, interesting and smart. Totally awesome. Show Hulbert ranks. Number one all the time. So thanks Jennifer. That that is a great review, but Jen is just like us. If you're an exit fell fan, if you're waiting for this to come back. Yeah, we really appreciate it. XFL show.com/review, leaving us reviews for the podcast. And I really appreciate it. And you mentioned Josh coming up. We also shoot him a quick from 13:40 AM. Fox sports. In Charlotte, North Carolina, talk about Panthers football, Teddy Bridgewater, PJ Walker. She's also coming up with the show it's loaded. We've got, uh, we've got a couple of guests today. And that's good that shows. That we're actually on the right track of doing something. And we appreciate all of our views and all the people that listen to us. Every week. Yeah, we have it. We have a huge show today. Lots of XFL staff. We got Josh Johnson in the news. We've got the spring league she ended was great. So yeah, I mean, just, I'm really excited to kind of roll down everything to the, I feel like we're, uh, we're hitting our stride here going on week 14. So. So would that being said, you have some, uh, news tidbits. You want it to discuss. I mean, well, the huge news of the week is we're now officially part of the XFL news have family, which is great, which is kind of cool. I was talking with Dorothy about it and I listened to Mark and the XFL weekend review back when. Yeah, cause I'm a fan. Right. I listened to that act two, two and a half years ago when kind of we were getting into the league. You know, we went to DC for the first a Dragon's defenders game. We met Mark at Walters. He was freaking out doing the podcast because I think the connection there's something wasn't working. And I mean we're fans. And so it meant a lot that Mark reached out to us, asked us to come on and we put together a little promo video that he had on his, uh, podcast this week. And so, yeah, Mark kind of does the whole news rundown on Mondays on the XFL new SAB. And then we're kind of your end of the week, a little more commentary, a little more color, a little more kind of either weather. Whether some wide ranging thoughts than just like running down the news. So I really excited about that and we really appreciate, uh, Mark and Josh are news hub. I think we're going to get a lot more voices on, and we're kind of getting like the insider knowledge now, like we're getting I'm kinda were in the group chats and we're kind of getting to know what's going on. So that's good. If you want some inside information on the XFL. And I feel like where were the Monday, Monday podcast is more news straight forward. Your headlines, your, your, basically your ESPN of the XFL. We're more of the opinion columnists section, where we kind of like spit ball and, you know, we, we discuss our opinions about what should happen. Of course, I've gone on tangents about how the Dallas Cowboys still need to call Colin Kaepernick. But other than that, you know, we try to cover news to hear. So we're really happy to be joining them and looking forward to a great partnership with them. And they're really active in the XFL, uh, in the XFL. News. Universe. So it's a great partnership that, uh, that read worked out. I got a compliment. You got to give you some applause for that. I'll see if I hit him, hit the red button. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, no, so it's good. We're we're, we're thrilled to be over there. We're going to be hosted on the site. Nothing changes from our end. You can still go. The XFL show.com is our website. Expo show.com/youtube takes you to our YouTube page. And yet we're still Markcast on yellow, Apple podcasts, all that kind of stuff. We're just, they're also going to be hosting our videos and we're going to be doing a level of cross promotion. So nothing changes on our end, except just more exposure, which is, is great for us. I completely agree next up YouTube and, uh, What is this? If you're listening on YouTube, you can also listen to an audio form. And if you're listening on audio form, you can also listen to it on YouTube. And I just thought that, you know, maybe if you're just listening on Apple podcast where we're, we're slowly building the ranks, you know, check us out on YouTube, give us a subscribe. Uh, we're, we're hitting, we're close to hitting the a hundred subscriber Mark, and then we're going to give away a shirt when we do that. But I just thought it was worth mentioning, you know, if you like the audio, I don't know what people prefer. You know, Paul does the audio. I do the video. It doesn't matter, but I just thought if you're listening to one or the other, just know that both exists, you know, Dorothy watches the video. Cause she likes to see. All of this. You know, but maybe. Here it is the audio guy. So just to see all of that 24 hours a day, I don't think. I think she could go without say your one hour on YouTube. I'm just going to say. He likes to watch YouTube. She knows you, you know, your friends. Yeah, we're cool. You know, Yeah. If you, God forbid, if you ever split up, I picked Dorothy instead of you read, sorry. We know this. Yeah. Um, what else was going to say? Pandora. We've also submitted to Pandora. They're behind on processing, but there's a good chance that by, in the next couple of weeks, We will also be on Pandora, which will be the last one. We've kind of checked off of our, uh, the other podcast on the network warehouse. Just got out of the Pandora last week. So we're, we're two weeks behind that. I think we are getting close to the fact that the getting close to the point of being on Pandora, which is really excited because that'll cover all of the podcast avenues that you listened to your audio. You know, whether it be speaker. Whether it be Spotify, whether it be Apple, Google, whatever it is, we're everywhere. We're going to be everywhere. So we're looking forward to that as well. Uh, I wanted to give an update, a friend of the show, cold Boozer. This goes back a couple of weeks. Now. I think coal is busy, like bulking up and getting, you know, getting him playing a shape. But we did the whole thing that, you know, uh, Cole did as a cameo. He called us the market cast your cohost a well on a warehouse, you know, loves that. And we said, Hey, Cole come on the show. And then we're going to send you a, we stand called Boozer shirt because obviously we stand cold Boozer. He's the patron Saint of the, of the Markcast. And we said, Hey, if we send you a shirt, you take a photo with it. We're going to post it online. And we're going to donate $250 to a charity of your choice. He chose the Shriners, uh, Philadelphia. And I think he had some family connections there. He was telling me, I can't remember the messages, but, uh, so Cole did that. We posted that we're going to do that. I don't know how to do that, but I'm going to figure out how to donate the money to, I don't know. Do you like, do they have a Venmo? Can we just like Venmo at Shriners? Your question. We'll have to look into that, but we're definitely on onboard with us setting that donation. And we do think all booze or for being very receptive. To everything we're doing here at the Markcast, he's been great. And if you, if you, this is a long shot, but if you are wanting, wanting to help donate, you can go to XFL show.com/merch. We have a, we stand cold Boozer shirt. In the off chance anyone wants one you'll we'll donate all those proceeds to charity, but if you use Dan Cole Boozer, like we do. I will donate back to Shriners, but I got to figure that out this week, but thank you. Call he, it took him a while to get us to fall down and they took me a while to share the photo. So we finally got that like six weeks after the fact, but we're doing it. We're good. We're good to go on that. So thanks again. Call for, uh, for being so cool with the Markcast and or market cast, whatever you want to call it. So you have a bachelorette update. I don't. Why don't we, why don't we keep talking about the bachelorette? I asked Josh, he posted that he's excited to come on today. I said, do you want us to save the bachelor at talk? Because last time he was I, he came on and then we posted about that. He goes, I definitely did not talk about the bachelor at, on the podcast. So, yeah, we could have waited for Josh. I wanted to say is, you know, I have my conspiracy theory that Brandon silvers are XFL dragons. Quarterback is on the bachelorette. Uh, uh, under the pseudo name of chasing Nick, which is not really. Such a fake name, but so, you know, cause cause Claire was on there. Uh, Claire is already engaged, got engaged, like the first two episodes. Like she's off the show now. So I, I didn't know. I'm like, okay, are we going to keep a lot of these guys on here? Cause they're bringing in the new bachelorette. And so there's chasing Nick. I wanted to like blow them up online, but I'm like, well, if he's only on it for like two weeks and then they kick them off, maybe, you know, I don't wanna like get solid in the guys. You know, it kicked sand in his face. It's the mic on here. Can we get chased the neck on here? Well, I think that's our, our goal. Right? And so now that he's on there for the long-term, I mean, how, however long he lasts. I was chasing Nick and Brandon silvers on here at the same time to prove that they're not the same person to you. I think, I don't think that's possible because they are the same person. It would just be like, he would call in on like a phone and then he would call in on like an iPad and it would be the same. But no, but I, so I, I want to get, I want to do more coverage of this breaking news. Now that Brandon Silver's is on that. Cause I didn't wanna, you know, crap on chasing there too much if he was only going to be on the shelf for two weeks, but he's going to be on there for the duration and tell Claire kicks him off. He had the shortest red shorts on this week. Dorothy, even comment that you guys, those are like shorter than I would wear. So it chasing Nick, you got fans of us on the Markcast and we're going to get you out. We're going to tweet. He doesn't have a Twitter. He has an Instagram, so I'll work on Instagram. Wow. Wow. Wow bro. That's my homework this week. So we got it. Yep. Um, Garrett Gilbert. You know, we're talking about, uh, we're talking about, um, the Dallas cup was the end of the call called Cabernet Garrett Gilbert. Out of nowhere. Like an RKO out of nowhere. This is insane. Garrett Gilbert through more TDS and Tom Brady did this week. Who had that stat, whose family. That's that. Wow. Wow bro. So, uh, I think that I want to talk about it and I think I tweeted this to is Gary Gilbert, the goat of the week. And so I think the episode title should be Garrett. Gilbert equals go. Yeah, geo whatever oat question Mark. Cause I need something. We can further sub Garrett Gilbert on there, but he had a great week. He played for the Cowboys. He kept him in there against the Steelers. So the very end did you watch any of this game? It was crazy. The Steelers. I don't think. I think the Steelers are probably one of the most. What's the word overinflated, overrated, eight teams I've ever seen. They are so lucky and the, even the teams that they beat barely have losing records. Like this is not a good, this is not an eight note team. Really? I know the record says there ain't no, but they're not really eight. They're going to come into a situation where they're going to play a Tom Brady and Tampa. And if, if Tampa Bay plays to its potential, they're going to get smashed. They're going to get wrecked. I would go as far as saying, if they played Seattle, Seattle would be Pittsburgh right now. Well, Seattle needs to find their defense. Cause that was terrible. And that was a horrendous game on Sunday though. Dirty. We're talking about, we're also going Jamal Adams is back. The defense is going to be better. Nope. No. But no, Garrett Gilbert played great. Tom Brady played terrible this week. He had this pouty face again. You know, I love that. I'm a fan of the pouty, Tom Brady, but Garrett Gilbert was great. Kept the Cowboys in there. I think they should definitely keep him in next week out. What do you think about that? I mean, obviously they need, she wasn't doing it for them. Garrett Gilbert, at least got you. They said it was like the first. TD the Cowboys had gotten him like 28 possessions of the ball, or, you know, over the course of the last four weeks. Go keep going with what works Dax done for the year. Keep going with what works. And if you're playing the New York giants after watching what happened to the other Redskins quarterback, They've. The New York giants defense has broken. Two quarterbacks legs this year. What is happening. What are they doing in New York? Other than that, man. It's two quarterbacks. Did you see that Redskins quarterback? No, I didn't. I missed that this week. It's a, it's a, it's not the Redskins anymore. It's the alley. I keep forgetting. Yeah. It's like Michael McDonald. I keep forgetting, I keep calling, want to call him the Redskins. I know it's the Washington football team. It's going to take some use. It's going to take some time to get used to that. Um, I, at least I call the Utah jazz, the Utah jazz and not the new Orleans jazz. Right. At least I'm that far ahead in my progression. I'm sorry, please forgive me. Um, the Washington football team. They had a quarterback that had there. That I can't remember the name of the quarterback. It's escaping right now. Sorry. The reason why I'm confused is because two years ago, Alex Smith had the same kind of leg break for the Washington football team. So, and now Alex Smith is, you know, the backup, I guess. I I'm assuming he's the backup right now. Um, but it, it. That's two legs that have broke it. That have been broken by the New York giants and it's getting. I wouldn't want to be a quarterback playing against New York giants right now. Just wouldn't want to do it. So, yeah, it was good to see Garrett Gilbert formerly the AAF had the Apollos was great in the AAF. He came in and it was good. It was fun to see you. God. You know, got a little spring football chatter going on, you know, with the XFL and the AAF, even though they Mmm. You know, they folded in like week eight or nine, but it was cool to see it was good to see us and people getting some love for that. And a lot of the XFL Rogers felt like even though Garrett was in the AAF, that like, he was kind of one of our own, that was, you know, me, you know, we all get PJ Walker full-time yet, but we have the whole game of Garrett Gilbert, and that was awesome. Speaking of New York teams. I have it here that you wanted to talk about. Um, The, uh, The jets being on Monday night. Dallas a game. That was the game. Oh, my gosh. I who wanted to lose that game. Whoever lost that game is in the driver's seat for Trevor Lawrence out of Clemson. And I was sitting there going, I have never seen a Patriots defensive back blow coverage. The way that one defensive back glue coverage was like, Bill Bella check is low key tanking the season, and no one's paying attention. He wants Trevor Lawrence. He should watch Trevor Lawrence. But the thing about the Patriots is they, they find a way, man. They'll get a quarterback of the third round. That'll end up being better than Trevor Lawrence. So. I don't know how it is. They do it, but. God bless him. Yeah, I just thought that was nuts. I just give the lead during anyway. We were watching that Monday night football with jets. She goes, they haven't won a game. Tell us what. They're Ona. They haven't won a game. I'm like, yeah, actually, you know, they're, they're really bad. You know, when we talk about the Steelers being eight mil and being kind of overinflated, the jets are very much indicative of their record. They are an O and 18 for. Sure they are terrible. The New York jets are terrible. And it came out that Adam Gase, they said it's not returning next season. Right. I think I saw that this week come across it. They said, no matter what happens, he is, he is done after the season. All, yeah. I mean, He was done the minute he had that press conference. I don't know if you've. I's all googly and stuff. You know, like, remember those little toys with the eyes that you'd shake and they were big googly eyes. That's what he looked like in his press conference. And all of my friends and family members that were jets fans were like, Oh, this guy's done already. He's done already. He he's done at the press conference. He's done. Because New York. To be a fan of a New York team. You got to deal with to be a coach or a player in the New York market, you have to deal with the rabid rabid fan base. Listen, I'm a Yankees fan and I am angry that it has been 11 years. And that is, that is a spoiled person speaking. It has been 11 years since the Yankees. Went to. Or won a world series and that is unacceptable for Yankees fans. And now with, with Steve Cohen coming in. Buying the Mets. Talking about personally calling players too. The Yankee, Yankee, faithful. We're getting a little antsy. We need the Steinbrenner's to step up and do fricking something and make this team a contender again. I'm not talking about like an ALC exit. That's not really a contender. I could tender means you go to the world series no matter what. And the jets. Deserve a winner. Their, their general manager was asleep in the stands. You see, they shut the f**k. It's insane. This team is. Checked out everyone is everyone's checked out. And the best part is like the general manager. That's not the one that's on the hot seat in New York. Gentlemen for the giants is the one on the hot seat. It's a mess up there. New York football is a mess. I'm not even a fan and I'm p****d. For my friends and family members that are New York giants and jets fans. I'm mad for all of you because you deserve better. They see the ad. And forgive me, this is my, where my lack of sports knowledge comes in, but they said that, that, um, the New York jets quarterback is now like the sixth longest path here. So it was some crazy stat that he. Key pass. Like it's nuts. I mean, he'll never be the number one. I mean, that's Joe Nemeth, but at the same time, it's like, The only team, probably with the worst with, with quarterback luck. That's this bad is the Cleveland Browns. I mean, there's a stat somewhere that, that I think it's like 24 different quarterbacks since 2005 and started for the Cleveland. It's, it's an insane stat because. That's that's the place where it's like quarterbacks basically go to die. Yup. Thanks. So why didn't they flex this game off? I mean, it was exciting to watch. Cause you're like on the Panthers. Really good. What does that mean? It was almost more exciting that way. Right? If the jets were like two and six and came in, you wouldn't care as much, but the fact that they was like this, they could actually pull this off. So the only way, the reason they would pull it off is because bill Belichick wants Trevor Lawrence. That's it? That's the only reason. The Patriots. Evil genius. It's like the meme where, you know, um, there's a meme of Belicheck watching, walking out of the tunnel and it's like, so-and-so just got released on waivers and you hear the Steve Austin. Last break. As you see bill bell, check, walk, you know, the tunnel because you know, what's going to happen. They're going to find a way to get these players. And it's just, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's the one that's going to happen and I'm moving on here now. Stop it. Opinionating about New York football and. Patriots. Thumbs down video. What are you talking about? What is this? So every week we get, and then I swear, we're going to get the XFL stuff after this. Maybe this is why we get the thumbs down video. Uh, on the videos, but there we get, we get like one, we get all your like 10, 12, whatever, thumbs up. And then we get one thumbs down, all the videos. Whoever it is. If it thumbs down. Leave a negative comment too. So at least I know why I get the thumbs down. That's all I'm asking. You can leave at thumbs down. That's like, but you are, you are required to also post, you know, show your work, like do your homework and then show your work and say thumbs down and then say, why. That's all I want. I just want to know. Cause we get generally positive reviews, right? Uh, you know, the five stars on the podcast, we get a lot of thumbs up, but if you're going to leave it thumbs down or a negative review, at least just tell us why. I mean, put a, put a face behind that thumbs down. Coward. Show yourself. Yep. That's all right. So before we get the sheen of quick from a 13:40 AM, let's talk about the big story in the XFL right now, which is Josh Johnson added to the practice squad. The 49ers. This is a big one. So our boy, our boy moose, uh, he, he sent over the article and I told them we would, we would use his article from XFL board. Oh, yes. Josh. John said the Wildcats. Uh, but I told, I told moose, we would use this article as kind of our thesis statement today they go off of, so what do you think about this? I think it's big news. It's it's a huge news. I mean, it's, it's, it's something that, you know, He's already been with the 49ers a couple of times, he's 34 years old. He's not, you know, It's not going to be a situation where it becomes a starter overnight. And I know that. Jimmy Garappolo is not quite what they had in mind. And, um, when they traded for grapple and I know grapple had a great season last year. The Niners work tender, but, uh, it's not going to, it's only going to result in anything happening probably with Josh Johnson, making the main roster and, or starting for the 49ers. It's just a little bit of depth, just a little bit of insurance for the 49ers. And as someone who doesn't like the 49ers at all, Um, I'm conflicted. I'm conflicted. Well, it's crazy. I mean, just kind of going through here and moose, you know, wrote down a lot of stuff. I mean, he's just, he's been around forever. It says he played on 16 teams in his career. I mean he's coming in and he said almost, maybe he could be kind of a veteran voice, just kind of giving a little perspective that way. Cause I mean, You know, I'm 34. I was forget 34. And you know, that's like eight. That's ancient time. All times. You know, when you get above 32, you stop, you start forgetting like, you know, I turned 42 next week. And I have to. Carry the two. Okay. 42. Yeah. I forget that all the time. So what are alert? You might have a ukulele. Like have a little birthday gift. It's probably going to be delayed. I think, I think van the man, number one fan, I think it has a birthday gift coming for you. Okay. And it may or may not be what you think is going to be, and it's probably going to be delayed, but it, we, it is coming. You have a, you'll have a belated birthday gift from band and I, okay, well, I'll be looking forward to that. Um, uh, Did you send it or did you give my address too? No. Like it could be no, it's gone. I mean, it could be next week. It could be next year. It's going to come to you first, then you're going to set it to me. No, no offense to van. I just want my address, you know, out there. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, no. It will come. Yeah. And I'll send it to me. I didn't, I didn't give him your address, but anyway, no, I mean, Josh, Josh, and this is good. I think I like we'll get into talking with Josh Davis today about the spring league. I mean, there's just a ton of quarterbacks. It just, it kills me when we see these teams and they lament and I watch all of these, um, you know, like the football talk shows and all this talking about, you know, lamenting and Neo didn't you G and we got Andy Dalton and all this stuff. And here, you know, you got these XFL guys, you got AAF guys. Look, Gary Gilbert came in, got a TD. Did great. I mean, did you know it wasn't like I, did he blow the roof off the place? No, but I mean, I think he did his warning. Yeah, you can do as long as you're going to do for week eight coming in and, you know, playing against the Steelers. I mean, I think you did great. That's why he's the goat, but. Go to this week. He's the guy that this week, but no, I think this is great. Moose is excited about Josh Johnson. He's a big fan. Not as big a fan as he, as at Brandon silvers, but moose is a big fan of Josh Johnson. He thinks that this can be good. And Josh Johnson. Of course, last time he played the NFL, like on an NFL roster was 2018. Again for the Washington football team. Uh, he, uh, had three starts there. So, uh, we wish Josh all the, all the best. And, uh, speaking of, uh, former XFL quarterbacks. Thank you. Wow. Speaking of ex former XFL quarterbacks coming up after the break, we're gonna talk to Sheena quick from 13:40 AM out of Charlotte. We're gonna talk about PJ Walker, Teddy Bridgewater, and the situation in Carolina. Hi Sheena. How's it going? Good. How are you? Good. Thanks for joining us here on the XFL Mark hast. I know it was like a little bit of a short notice, but we want to talk about the, uh, The Panthers quarterback situation, because we're both big fans of PJ Walker. And we saw him get into the game. What, what went into that? Do you know, offhand what went into that decision? Well, um, basically to decision and as far as who's going to be the second string behind Teddy Bridgewater kind of fluctuates between PJ Walker. And, um, gosh, what, what will Greer. I was about to say something that wasn't even seeing me more. But we'll Greer in, um, the particular week that you're speaking of was against the Atlanta Falcons on Thursday night football. PJ was the designated backup. I'm on the play that said he got injured on, he was tripped by a Falcons player and then hit, he suffered a little bit of a neck injury, but he did still have to go out and go into the tent to be evaluated for a concussion. And that's where we saw PJ into the game. Um, go ahead. Sorry. Why, why do they do that back and forth switch between PJ and bulgur? I mean, I feel like a lot of teams, you know, you have your, your starter and then your designated second where they do this, you know, it could be him one week. It could be well the other week. Why do they do that specifically with the Panthers? According to Matt roll. The head coach, I guess, is like a, whoever they think looks best that week in practice and particularly the opponent, like what defensive scheme they run in, who they think could better serve the Panthers interest, depending on what type of defense they're going to face. Is it a situation where like, if, if the Panthers are going up against a team that has a quarterback that plays like PJ Walker, maybe PJ is not going to be the second string quarterback. So you can kind of be on the scout team. Is that the situation? Um, I would go so more so as far as. And in a PO in opposition to the other team's quarterback, I would think it had more to do with the other teams, dif defense and you know, the personnel that they have, you know, whether, um, It'll be something that PJ skill set will benefit the Panthers better with. So more so than like scout team purposes, I would say it depends heavily on the other team's defense. Were there any concerns about Teddy Bridgewater's neck throughout the course of the week after the end, after, after it happened against the Falcons? There's a little bit of concern. He wasn't held out of practice. He wasn't limited. They were just kind of being a little tentative with him. And since it fell on a week where it was Thursday night football, he did have a couple of extra days to get. To get better since they did not play that Sunday. Awesome. What was your weight when PJ got signed? Did you, did you follow the XFL in any of the players before PJ got signed with the team? I followed the XFL, as far as the players that I knew had been affiliated with the Panthers previously that were playing in the league. Um, there's a couple of them that, that had gone to that league and then came back and got NFL opportunity. So I did a little bit of research and digging when I saw that they were signing PJ. And what was your kind of initial thoughts? Uh, PJ his athleticism. Um, I'm probably going to catch a lot of flack from Panthers fans for saying this, but I think that PJ would, would be the clear cut backup if they had not traded up to draft a will Greer. I think that that teams are particularly faithful to their draft picks, especially ones that they trade up to get. Um, because in my opinion, last season will Grier's rookie season. He was not the third best quarterback on the team. There were four quarterbacks. Of course it was cam Newton. You had Kyle Allen, you had well Greer. Then, um, so fourth guy Taylor. Hi, Niki Taylor. Hi, Nikki. In my opinion, Taylor. Hi, Nikki was number three. But you can't just cut, you know, you have your draft pick that you just traded up to get. So that's why I think he got the nod over Taylor. Hi, Nikki. And I feel like this is a similar situation where there's a little bit more, you know, loyalty to your draft pick. So without that, that caveat, I would think that PJ would have been the clear cut backup in my opinion. Is it a situation where real Greer is kind of the guy in waiting there in Carolina, then. I kind of want to say yes, but not necessarily. Um, Teddy signed to a three-year deal, whether he'll play out those three years in Carolina remains to be seen, but I wouldn't say he's the clearcut guy in waiting. I wouldn't, I wouldn't put that much stock into it. How do you think Katie has been performing this year so far? I think he's performed solidly. I think that when he is protected, he's one of the best and most accurate passers in the league. I would definitely like to see him toss it downfield a little bit more. You have DJ Moore who is insane on deep routes. He's very, very hard to bring down. There were a couple opportunities for him in the game against Kansas city. That Teddy just did not throw him the ball. He only had three targets, you know, him and Robby Anderson makeup, one of the best wide receiver and duals in the league. So why he did not. Have more targets that game I'm unsure of. I don't know what, you know, the idea was going into the game, or if that game plan changed at all over the course of the game. But I would have liked to see him throw the ball down the field a little bit more. Uh, the Panthers are in a super tough, super tough division with, of course, with the saints and the Buccaneers. Uh, exactly. Uh, what what's what's the, what's the optimism? What's the feel like for a successful season right now? There they've lost four in a row. What's what's the, what's the outlook here for the Panther's going forward. Now, the thing about it is no one expected this Panthers team to do well at all. The wins that they got. No one expected it. And so they're going to exceed expectations no matter what, because they're so low. I think that, um, in a sport where I'm super competitive. So to me, there are no moral victories, but if you do have to take a silver lining out of this, they've been competitive. They're right there, you know, at the end of the game with the opportunity to tie or win or, you know, send it into over overtime or whatnot. And they're just unable to finish out the game. What's unfortunate for Teddy Bridgewater is that in most of those instances, the ball has been in his hands. So regardless of how the defense is playing, regardless of what has happened on special teams, people are going to look at the quarterback. It's not fair, but it kind of comes with the territory. They're going to look at him and say, Teddy Bridgewater, can't finish games. Um, would that be a situation where the fans might clamor for a wheel Greer or maybe even a PJ Walker to come in and kind of finish? Names names out. I think at this point, let me, it's not going to happen because that's just kinda how the Panthers are. But if the fans had their pick, I think they would be leaning towards PJ rather than we'll Greer. Um, any. Has there been, has there been fans that have, that have commented on that? If you guys aren't already please tap into Panthers Twitter, because. It is insanely entertaining. I will say that it's very, very entertaining, but most of the people, no one's clamoring for wheel rear because we saw what will Greer couldn't do last year. When he came in for Kyle Allen and we saw that he just was not ready. Whether or not, he's ready this year. We haven't seen him active in any games to s**t. There was no preseason. So that's one of the drawbacks from that, from that. But they've seen what we'll we're really has to offer. So I think they would take their chances with Sam PJ out there a little bit more. That's an interesting perspective. I like to say that. It's just tough because you know, PJ was the MVP of the XFL, right? I mean, one of the, without a doubt, stand out. You know, players. And to see him come in, you know, under someone like Teddy, I mean, we had Jordan, Tammy who was kind of the other main quarterback go play. Um, You know, with Kansas city, he got caught, but you know, it makes a little more sense. Okay. You have Jordan behind yield Padma homes, you know, greatest quarterback, you know, alive right now, whatever the talk is, but then you have PJ. You know what that's like. Fall's JT does that, but then you have, you know, someone like PJ Walker and I think a lot of people, I mean, I know I do. You know, watching those Panther's games, hoping that PJ we'll get a shot. Right. And when, when Thursday came around last Thursday, I mean, you know, my phone, my father-in-law was texting me. I had friends texting me just cause they know that we do this being like, Oh my gosh, did you know, did you do it? It just seemed like it was. So it's hard for, for XFL guys. Cause I, I think they wish that okay. Maybe PJ would get a shot versus like Jordan Tammuz. TAMU is never going to get a shot with the chiefs, or we think maybe there would be a shot that he would get one with the Panthers. Well, even though Teddy went out with that, that gruesome injury a couple years ago, he's been pretty durable. It's been pretty durable in the P the way the Panthers paid him. They're going to, they're going to play them. He's expected to play that, that he's their guy. And like I said, even though these games or not, Ending the way they will rather than end. And it's so easy to point to the quarterback is so easy to say, well, Teddy was right there. He could have done this, that he could have done that. But then when you have a defense that, you know, Kansas city was the defending super bowl champs, they didn't punt. So to be right there and lose by two on the road to the defending champions again, no moral victories, but in a game, where did they? No, they didn't plan it all. They had misfield goal turn the ball over and they did not punt. So to be right there with them, I think that says a lot about the offense. And right now I just don't see them making a change unless there's a major injury. So no Disney movie script about PJ Walker. I don't see it. I don't see it, unless, unless. Um, Teddy's health comes into question. So is he, is, have you heard, is he at least fitting in, well, is he being respectful? Is he, you know, getting along with, I mean, what is his. Demeanor about way, just in terms of maybe getting prospects with other teams down the line to me, is he fitting in well with the system and, and along with everybody else, BJ. It appears that he is, um, you know, we have very limited. You know, observation of practice because of COVID everything's a little different, it makes their job just a little bit harder. But I'm in talking to Teddy Teddy. His big thing is I want will Greer and PJ Walker to be ready. Because we know that he started, we know the Teddy started in Minnesota. We saw what happened and we saw his progression back to being a starter in the NFL. And his biggest thing was, you know, when drew Brees went down, I went into the game, I embarrass myself, I played horrible football and I wasn't ready. So you said he had to regroup. And what he's then the mindset that he's trying to feed into Walker in Greer is you never know when your opportunity is going to come, whether it's here or whether it's somewhere else. So be ready. He's done a really good job of coaching them up in that quarterback's room. He feels like both of them are more than capable of stepping in and doing what they need to do. So I would think that he, this is a good fit for him. Um, the other athlete, the other players on the team like him, he seems to be soaking in the knowledge and soaking in the experience. So if the opportunity does present itself elsewhere for him, I think he would be well equipped to take advantage of it. Cause we did have, and I don't remember his name, but we did have the other XFL, um, whether the Panthers, when he wasn't wearing the mask right. Dancing. And he got, he got cut. Right. He was on the Josh Hawkins. Yeah. So I mean, we're, this is, this is not a, you know, an uncommon question to ask, Hey, we have some of these XFL guys getting shots. I mean, right. I'm as big as PJ, but otherwise in some of them are really rising to the occasion. And then some like him. You know, clearly had other things on his mind. Right. So that was just kinda, my question was obviously he, he, yeah. Well, he seems to be very focused, like at no one's saying that there's any distractions or things like that, but, um, Teddy likes him a lot. He says that he is. Basically soaking everything up like a sponge and just getting himself in position to be ready. If the opportunity presents itself. Awesome. She had a quick, we thank you for your time. Uh, coming on, talking about the Panthers and PJ Walker and Teddy Bridgewater. I hope to talk to you again soon. Thank you guys for having me. Thank you. There we go. Sheena was great. I appreciate her coming on. I've had, that was great. I thought it was good insights. I was thinking. Um, and, and maybe we can work on this. Try to get someone with the 49ers, maybe about Josh Johnson. I don't know. I can look that up or whatever, but I thought that that would be a good, um, just to kind of, you know, what's the, like the feet on the street. Right. You know, get the little, um, Be like, what's the guy in game of Thrones. Like you have your spiders everywhere. Like we can get all of our writers everywhere and. Oh, you don't watch game of Thrones. Well, there was the guy and he had, he had his little fingers in everything. And so maybe, you know, like we got cheated out, keeping an eye on the Panthers, right. For us. And then maybe we find somebody keeping up with Josh Johnson and the 49ers, and we can be the guy that drinks a no thing. Those things, that guy. It's that it's, um, the guy, he didn't have a, a member. A member. He didn't have a member. I'm trying to keep this PG. Okay. Well, there's that Ken doll? Got it. Or no, he didn't have, maybe he didn't have both sets. Maybe you didn't have a full set. It was something going on. I didn't really pay it. There's a lot of that in game of Thrones. I didn't really. There's a lot of other stuff in games. I didn't like that. I wasn't a fan. The relationships, like I was just like, no. That's a lot. Well, you know, when I was a kid and I wanted to be into dragons and wizardry and stuff, girls didn't talk to me at all. So I stopped being in a dragons and wizardry that's the thing. And now all of a sudden the Todd, again, I don't know, I just didn't ever watch it. So that was like, when I was in middle school a couple years before I played Pokemon, like red and blue and all that came out and I was like a big Pokemon guy and then it all got. Like into our middle school. Cause we all have laptops and you could like emulate the game. Boy, you get like the raw and you can emulate it on there. And then I was like the coolest guy in school. Cause they're like, Hey, really? How do we catch squirrel or whatever? And I'm like, Then I can do this for years. Like wake up. We kept Squirtle or, you know, or gets the Pokemon, like how do you [unknown]. I too old for Pokemon. Yup. Yup. Happened. When I was coming out of college. That's how old I am. Right. Oh, man. Okay. We got Josh Johnson out of here and that's good. I think that's all those. Okay. I'm closing that stuff out. Hey, do you see this about, uh, Matt? McGloin? I thought this was kind of funny. It's up? Yes. Starting a podcast. Everybody's starting a podcast. I'll tell you, man. It was the angriest quarterback for the New York guardians, uh, almost as angry as Tom Brady. Like he would, they just play. You got some ID and then he was like, the big deal with him was they, cause they did like the sideline reporting and all of that. He was like trash talking like, Oh yeah, like our team just, we, they didn't even show up to play today or something. And then that was like the big news about Mount McGuire. You know, kind of like crapping on this teammates. So now he's starting to podcast, it's called the underrated hour, which is not accurate because I don't think John, he is underrated. I think he is exactly. I don't think he's read it at all. He's read it at all, but it's like him and his buddies. It was just an interesting, it's like extra stuff. Depends. Former Penn Stater. Did you, did you also speak about your. Hearing something. What are the, what is what. I'm not hearing something. Hang on. There's like a cop outside, just one second. Reid is getting swatted currently. That was weird. There was like a guy like a loudspeaker outside the house. Are you getting swatted read? Is that what's happening right now? Did you plug merge while we went, or do I need to edit that out? We need to add to that, although you can probably keep the part in where I talked about you getting swatted. Cause that was pretty. That was pretty good. Sound like you're getting swatted. Is there a SWAT team outside? Loud speaker outside it read, p**s someone off on call of duty or something like that. That was crazy. I was like, they, maybe they found your bumper on our street. They were alive. Hey, can you share, can you share the screen real quick? I want to show you this something, and maybe you could pop this up. I'll send this to you afterwards. You could pop it up on the, uh, I don't know if this is gonna allow you to do it with our recording situation that we got going on. So, uh, let's see if you can share screen. Nope. It's still says disabled. Oh, are we, uh, where are we? We're not going to keep all this in right now. Let's not do that. Get this out. That's makos. Coast. Jerry, there is all these, so let's, let's start like here fresh. When I came back from like the, the, you know, Do you want to start the Matt McGloin thing all over again or no? Just be like, Why? I don't know. I came by that was this crazy. Sorry. Anyway, what were we talking about? We're talking about Matt McGloin and we're talking about Penn state and I wanted to say. Speaking of Penn state, did you see this, this week? What is happening at Penn state? Like. What is happening at Penn state? I'm stalling waiting for the sheriff screen to happen. Watch this, watch this player right here. What is he doing? Oh, I saw this. That was, that was dirty. They say, what did they, what did they teach in buyers over at Penn state? It's like, that's like some halo stuff. That's like halo. Teabagging. Inhale up. I didn't remember, but teabagging and halo, but what, what, what is that? It doesn't do that. Stop that, knock it off. We got know your game. We got Notre Dame fans running out in the stands. We got guys teabag and people on the field, like, stop that, knock it off. I don't like that. Anyway. So I saw that I was like Penn state, you know, we're talking about Matt McGloin, um, and you know, what, what is happening at Penn state? So Matt McGloin is starting the underrated hour. Of course we're joking. He's not rated at all. He's not ready. It's like you think the funniest, it's just like the funniest sales page. It's like, Oh, it's just like me and some friends. And we just decided to like, talk about football and you're like, okay. I, at least the exit Falvey's has that many XFL bloggers or, you know, how many NFL podcasts are in this world. Matt, McGloin you think anybody cares about your opinion enough? I don't know, apparently that could John Carter, which a name I haven't heard since like 1999. I don't know why could Gianna Carter is showing up on this podcast. But, um, Speaking of like former NFL players that, uh, have podcast. Pat McAfee. Of course, you know him as the, uh, I think it was the punter for, yeah, he was the punter for the Indianapolis Colts. Of course it's a big wrestling fan, a big part. He was like, Hey. Champion right. NXT tag team champion. Has to have to have they won the tag team championships, is that I feel like he or he came back and he had the mask. I'm not watching right now, but he, yeah. He's back again. So disco Inferno, Glen Gill birdie. Said that Pat McAfee. Should have all the belts in NXT and he is their best. Talent right now. Get out of here just going for it. It's the coldest takes in the world. You know, disco disco knows the business though. I mean, people, people give disco Inferno grief. I'm going to defend disco Inferno. I think disco has a good mind for the business. I think he knows what works. To an extent. He's still a little bit too old school for the new school way of thinking, but, um, You know, I got to give it up for disco. He's he's got it. He's got a brain for the business and apparently after last night's annex T show he's. So you're, you're just, you're not solving this all your like, checked out. You see reads phase right now? He's just like, Oh, I was, I had a mountain Dew, you kinda, I was kinda blown off to the side. Uh, he was now that is a cold tank. The patent. Pat McAfee. Assad is talented annex D who is their champion now? I'm cold. Not right. It's uh, Balor Prince. $10, their current champion. Um, of course I got shot by Gargano Gargano's the North Africans. Champion again. But apparently according to Cisco fertile, Former NFL punter, Pat McAfee, who was also famous for starting his own podcast. Is the best talent they have? No, no. Oh boy. So would that being said, we've talked about Matt McGloin podcast coming up next. Who do we got? Uh, Josh Davis XFL new side. He's going to join us to talk about that. Uh, we got some bids, Frick, man, lawsuit, staff. I dunno. He, Josh knows all that stuff. He's going to fill us in. We got spring league recap, a lot of drama with the spring league. Josh actually talked to the CEO of the spring league on the phone this morning, honestly. So he's coming on to give us all the updates on that straight from the horse's mouth from the spring Lake. And, uh, we're going to talk bachelor with them. Cause I know he was not kidding. When I say Josh, we're not going to do that to yet, but Josh is coming up after the break. Thanks for coming back on. We appreciate it. Hey, thanks for having me. So, what what'd you think of, uh, first off as spring league? I mean, there's a lot of different staff to go on first off. What did you think about the games this week? Oh, man, it was, uh, uh, The games are just like they have been, you know, since, since we first started since, uh, since week one, It's been an excellent brand of football and, uh, you know, so. I loved it. A high score and conquers one. I mean, you know, it was, uh, uh, we were expecting to see, uh, the jouster. Posters. On Tuesday, but that didn't happen. Uh, you know, there's some updates for that, but, uh, um, you know, it, it, it's, it's a shame for them because for one, they had to forfeit and, uh, Um, But we did get to see the, the Congress take on the aviators. Didn't get that big w. Yeah, it was a, I mean it really, really high scoring game. I mean, I thought, ah, Kevin Anderson played, uh, or I'm sorry. I'm right. Am I? Yeah, yeah, no, that's right. Kevin Anderson. Yeah. I thought he played phenomenally and the fact that they didn't take him out and put it in Justin McMillan, who I think was nowhere to be found. Right. Right. Yeah. He had been released the week before, after that fight with the, with the alphas coach. Yeah. Where the coach pulled into the ground, but they replaced them with, uh, On the roster with the former Hawaii quarterback Cole McDonald. And I'm telling you if you've not seen this guy play. Uh, you better look up some video cause McDonald is really talented and he's a, he's really exciting to watch. He's a dual threat guy. Uh, he's out of California, but played in Hawaii. Uh, he he's actually, if you go to, uh, the XFL news hub.com, you can check out one of my articles about the top 10 quarterbacks that the XFL needs to look at, uh, for, for the 20, 22 season. If he's not on a roster, anywhere call McDonald needs to be on there. He's on my list. I give you a little bit of rundown about what you can expect from him. And yeah, they, they kept with Anderson the whole time. And, uh, uh, throughout the weeks, you know, week one, he kind of struggled when he first went in, but, but every time he goes back out there, he does a better job in, in, uh, uh, it's. It's really good to see him play. He got. He got a little feisty throughout the game. Did you notice that right? He threw that pick on that play. That was an obvious offsites. I'm sorry. Refs missed it. And he threw that ball because he figured he had a, I just know it, that he figured he had a free play because of dudes were offsides, but they never called it interception. He was so frustrated. He went up and made the tackle. And not only that on the next drive, there was a fumble and you saw him at the bottom of the pile and he just yanks the ball away from the big guys, man. Like, he's like, he's, he's a shorter guy. He's not a tall dude and he's not real big. He's kind of stocky, but, uh, you know, he's. He was smaller than everybody else who was fighting for the ball. And he came away with it and yanked it away with force. And I loved it. You know, you love to see that kind of fire from your quarterback. So, you know yeah. They stuck with him. He knew they were going to stuck with them. And I think that stuff like that helps build up a confidence for the quarterback. So, um, You know, that's, uh, that was big cold day come in within the last couple of minutes, but he hadn't really been there. He only had like two practices. So, you know, Uh, they'll probably get him in pretty well, uh, uh, in this next week, depending on how it goes, we still have a shot. And then I will tell you last night with the generals and the blues, Brian Scott. You know, for TDS, I mean, what was it, what was the final score of 35 to 42, 28? Something like that. Yeah. Crazy. I mean, that guy is a, is a champ. I posted, I said, you know, when the star of the spring Lake follows you on Twitter, you know, you're doing something right. Cause he, I mean, Really did light it up. And we talk about the game last night at the performance of both teams. Uh, Patterson a little sloppy, right? Let's talk about your feelings at the game last night. Well, you know, there was, there was a few plays there at Patterson I know, would love to have back. Uh, you know, he had some throws that he was just trying to make a play, forcing it in there. And you know, if you've ever watched him play at either Ole, miss or Michigan, you're used to seeing that type of stuff, but he's trying to make plays, you know, it's not, it's not that he's making bad. I mean, Could he, could he check those decisions yet a little bit. Uh, but, uh, you know, he's trying to make plays, he's trying to make plays for his team. So he's just, not just flat out making bad decisions and throwing the ball all over the place. But, uh, I, you just trying to make plays and, uh, um, you know, and Hey, You gotta look at the backfield when you talk about the blues and Matthew Cobra and that guy. Is ferocious, man. Like I said it last night on Twitter. If you follow me, you, if you don't follow me, you need to, if you do, you saw me say it, it is unfair. Like it is gross. That this guy's not in the league. Uh, but I think that's a, you know, he had a bad, uh, came into a bad situation last year with the Rams. They had a full running back room. And most of the time, that's what it comes down to is situations it's not talent it's situations. And if you're not in a situation where you can actually make a difference, Cause he can, he could show all his talent that he wanted. They didn't have a spot for him. You know what I mean? So, uh, you know, that that's, that's, that's where he got unlucky when it came to that and, and, and this type of league TSL, that's what they're doing in the spring league is helping these guys get another shot and, uh, you know, Cobra needs to be in the backfield any NFL soon. And you know, if he's not. You know, we'll gladly take them in the XFL for 2022. Well, that's what I was telling Dorothy. I said, yeah. All these guys, you know, depending on how this works out here in the fall. And then if they do kind of the spring thing again, you know, there's no reason why a lot of these guys aren't going to get picked up in June when presumably they're doing the open camp. So it's, it's nice for me. Where I don't have as much college knowledge, right. Like I just don't have that deep knowledge of all these guys coming up to be able to see him now. And no. Like Coburn's good. You know, Yarberry is good. Uh, you know, yeah. God, they're saying Andrew saying, y'all lie to these guys. It's just nice to be able to like see that and then be able now. You know, when they transitioned it to the XFL, be able to follow them a little bit more. Right. You know, you get a, you get another look at these guys before they do come out because no doubt, they are going to be a lot of guys that we've seen over the past three weeks. Uh, playing in the spring league, that's going to be in the next iteration of the XFL. It's no doubt. You're going to see some of these guys and what I rather, I mean, what I like to see them play in the NFL. Absolutely. But guys like Scott, like we were just talking about Brian, Scott. It's going to take him some time to get onto a roster and get into a spot, you know? And, and he he'll be sitting behind some guys. We see the great PJ Walker right now. Uh, you know, he came in and got a, got a few throws on a drive a couple of weeks ago, but you know, he's sitting there behind Teddy Bridgewater. And I would rather see him play. I'd rather see him showcase his skills and where he has a better shot of actually playing in the XFL. Now, Brad, Scott is absolutely insane. Like he is the talk of this leak and, uh, um, you know, I had. Him and soul when they connected on that first, that, that, that double move man, uh, he killed them and I really hated it because I'm friends with the blues defensive coordinator. Dairy is Bel like, Oh man, I know your coach better than that. Come on now. You know, so it kinda, I was excited to see that play, but to have it happened on my dudes defense, you know, it's like, It hurt a little bit. So, but it it's, it's a lot of good football. If you're not watching the spring league. You really need to. Uh, so what what's going on, you Paul and I, you know, I called the Genesis for us, right? You know, I didn't didn't check in with Paul. I'm sorry. Uh, not good at all. And they were supposed to play. They were supposed to have the prime time game on Tuesday. So what can you fill us in on that? And I know that you, I, and we plugged it in Michelle already. I know that you talked with the CEO of the spring league, right? This is like right from the horse's mouth kind of everything that's going on. So what happened with the gestures on Tuesday? Well, what happened was, was over the weekend. From last week, over the weekend, there were some players on the Jaspers that had tested positive for COVID 19. And once that happened, uh, the head coach then, uh, uh, I'll explain that in a minute. Chuck Bresnahan canceled practices. Now we had gotten I'll go on and say this. We had gotten a few different reports. There are a couple of different stories going on out there. I will tell you. What I heard straight from the mouth of the CEO of the league. Uh, that's what I'll share with you. Cause I know that that is, you know, at least unofficial story, if it's, you know, there's always three sides to a story, right? There's one side there's the other side and the truth. So. But Brian, Brian Woods tells me that, uh, um, the test came back positive for some players on the downstairs. They were removed and they did contact tracing just like they do in the NFL. And they had those guys quarantined. Now what had happened was because of, for fear of some of the other coaches who might be a little bit older and Chuck himself, he cancel practice and you want to make sure that everybody's health. Uh, was, uh, was, you know, taking, taking in consideration. Now he had mentioned, coach had mentioned to, uh, mr. Woods that. You know, if anybody else. That happens to test positive. I may have to depart because of, you know, Health considerations, um, woods then went and searched for somebody who might be able to take his place. Uh, coach Bresnahan found out about that and he resigned. And so, uh, um, there's a, there's a new coach for the jouster. Uh, but because they hadn't practiced because coach Bresnahan made the right decision and cancel practice. Uh, they were not prepared for the game on Tuesday, so they were going to try to get it done, uh, for, uh, uh, Wednesday, but they still weren't able to get on the field to get any type of practices. They hadn't practiced in six days from what mr. Woods told me. So. Um, you know, it's, uh, uh, It's a bad thing. When you hear about a team take on forfeit, you know, and plus that was the first time we were going to see the draft. Uh, the Jasper zone, the field. No, I really hate it for those guys. I've talked to a couple of guys on the team and, uh, Uh, you know, they're really excited, you know, and they're really, they really love the opportunity to play, but, uh, you know, they really missed out on the, uh, the opportunity that they should be part of the double header coming up. And we'll get into that in a minute. I'm sure, but they'll should know they should be part of the doubleheader coming up next week. Um, but, uh, but yeah, you know, there's, there's a lot of things coming out in the league and, uh, Um, you know, my conversation with, uh, with the CEO really shed some light on, on the stuff that's going on. Uh, but yeah, man. You know, spring league is not immune. To the virus and, uh, a couple of players got it. And then they had to cancel practice. So we didn't see them play this week. Well, this is a shame because you know, these guys. Uh, and there's been mixed messages. If all of them are paying to play, if some of them are paying to play, we don't need to give them all the semantics of that. But some of these guys were paying to play. And they're wanting to, you know, get experience with coaches, get taped games, get all these things. And so, yeah, they hear that they hadn't practiced in six days. He don't get that prime time spot. They were losing the whole games worth of tape when they were probably only going to have, you know, four weeks anyway is shame. And so, you know, whether some of the pain people are playing, uh, pain or, you know, all of 'em or not, or whatever, I mean, at least some of it's a non-zero number of people that are paying. And just the shame you feel bad for that? Yeah, absolutely. Um, and then, uh, w we wanted to talk about. And the exit on news hub had an article out about some of the coaches getting ready to boycott that you know, that they weren't Mike Mitchell habit. That is the story. Was that not all the coaches were being paid? Uh, it sounds like that's been resolved now. I'm glad that we kind of have the final. Somewhat before we go to air tomorrow on Friday. So what's kind of the final story with that because there was a lot of drama this week. All right. Uh, we had the article come out, Mike Mitchell, like you said, a wrote it about what was going on with the coaches and get in payment. And, you know, Like I said before, we talked about the last little story. What I, what I'm about to say does not retract from our article at the time with the information and from the people that we got it from, we got the truth. Uh, but, uh, uh, some of the coaches had not been paid, uh, found out that I asked, uh, uh, the CEO today, what it was going on with that. And he said, this is what Brian would said. Uh, was that the payroll system took a little bit longer to process the payments because they had to verify the checking accounts. Now I can tell you, uh, that, uh, that, that has happened to me in the past where, you know, they're my butt. My employer told me, Hey, it's going to take a couple of days or, you know, a little bit longer for you to get your first paycheck. It won't be on Thursday. Like it normally is it'll be off Friday or the following Monday. Cause it has to do something. Our bank has to do something to talk to yours. So, uh, you know, that's not out of the realm of possibility, but I'll tell you that there were coaches. Uh, from what we had heard that, uh, you know, had talked about walking out. And so, uh, you know, we felt like that that's a, that piece needed to get out there and people needed to know. Uh, you know, that's, uh, um, They know this, this is kinda what's going on. But my talk with him this morning was a, was really fruitful. So I was glad to have that conversation. How is he demeanor wise? I know that he's been a little, uh, it seems a little agitated lately. Was he, was he receptive of your call? Amy was great. Uh, he called me, so, uh, I did email him, uh, earlier this morning and he called me to, to, you know, to talk about everything, but his, his demeanor was great. I didn't sense any type of agitation. Uh, which is, you know, uh, a little bit funny because it was me that he was talking to, and, you know, some of the stories that we had heard about his feelings about me. So, uh, you know, but I, but you know, we talked and we had a good talk, I think, and we continued to text throughout the day. Uh, getting some more information. You know, on some things. So, uh, um, you know, and I did. You know, I let them know that, Hey, if there was anything that you got from me that may have a, you know, rubbed you the wrong way, I was like, I'm sorry. I didn't mean anything to do. I didn't mean to do anything other than be professional. Uh, but, uh, you know, so I think that if there was anything between us, um, which you. You know, I had heard. And, and you had heard to, uh, you know, that's, uh, I hope that that's, you know, now water under the bridge. Uh, but like I said, we get, we'd also continued to text about the day. So, you know, it's a, um, if there was anything I think is gone now, we had a good conversation. He was upbeat. He was excited. Uh, he felt bad for the players. Of course, that were involved in the questions. That I had and with the job search and stuff, but, uh, uh, AC pretty pleased. And he said he did tell us, he said, uh, you know, we're doing a good job with the reporting and he's happy to see that, uh, you know, people are getting the players names out there again. So. You know, Because I was gonna say, I mean, spoiler alert, like, yeah. We're just trying to support the league. I mean, we, you know, I'm talking about. We dyed. It was spring break last week. We didn't, you know, we did a whole segment. Uh, yeah, with James we've had J'onn from Exeter and he said, I mean, you know, we're talking about the league. We want to cover the league. So yeah, I mean, Let us know you. What was wrong or somethings, I mean, we are covering this. We are fans. I watch all the games last night, live, tweeted them along with everyone else. So we're just trying to support the league. Two things before we let you go next week's games. You know, there had been rumors that the Alamo dome wasn't going to be able to host the games next week. What's going on with that? Yeah, they are not going to be able to play at the Alamo dome. Disney on ice starts on Wednesday. The 19th, the games were scheduled before. To be on the 17th and the 18th. Uh, when I talked to a couple of weeks ago, when I talked to a actual guys out of the operations and from events planning at the Alamo dome, they said that it takes three days for the ice to set. So they're going to have to start that Sunday. Uh, and just to be able to make sure that they get everything ready. Uh, for them to start warming up because even though they start on the 19th, they're going to have to start rehearsals on a late. Uh, on the 17th going into the 18th. So there's just no way to play football there. Uh, I will tell you that I did have that conversation about where they're going to play the games. Uh, with, uh, Brian Woods today, I can't give anything official yet because, uh, um, I, I'm pretty sure I know where they're looking, but, uh, um, Fox right now is scouting fields. There's a university there in San Antonio that they're going to go look at. Um, they're right now, out there, checking it out, making sure that it's going to work, but the schedule is there's going to be all three games on Tuesday. The first game will not be aired on TV. But the next two will be a double header. So you're going to get the C2, the third, two to three games. Uh, next week and, you know, we have an opportunity for four way tie for second place. I'm still waiting to hear back as to what the tie breaker would be in that scenario. But, uh, um, you know, everybody, but. Unfortunately everybody, but the Jack Astor's has an opportunity to play for the championship. Yeah, I had to get that last little statement. Cause that's the thing is, is Fox has to scout this, right? Because it's not just playing football. They have to put these games on TV has to be right. I mean, they can't just go out to a field somewhere and play. They got to know that. Yeah. This is going to support to be on Fs one. And do that, is that the thought behind that? Yeah. Yeah. They got to make sure that everything that they do for a game is able to be done at this place, because if it's the place that I'm thinking of and people that are around. Uh, San Antonio, it seats 6,000. It does play division one football there. Uh, you know, in, in for anybody that might be thinking it's not UT essays field, they play in the Alamodome. Uh, but they actually have a practice field on campus that that could be in consideration, but there isn't another football stadium there. Uh, that they could definitely, uh, um, uh, use. And I think that's where they're looking at. As soon as he gets the, you know, the go ahead from Fox Hill, let, let me know. Uh, but, uh, but yeah, he said, uh, he said, don't print that yet, but because we don't know if it's, if it's true or not. Uh, cause they still got to check it out. I'm like, no worries. You know, I won't, I won't stay where it's going to be. But, uh, uh, you know, we definitely know that it's not going to be in the Alamo dome. And even though you might go to the website and see the championship week, it gives you the whole week. It gives you from the 24th to the 1st of December. The game is going to be on the second. And, uh, uh, yeah, the week after. I want to go if they announced it. I'm Dorothy and I are pretty sure, I think, cause it's after Thanksgiving, I am pretty sure we're going to try to make it down for that. So that's nice. And it will be at the Alamo dome. It will be at the Alamo dome. So they wanted to make sure that that not only did they, were they able to finish up where they started in the Alamo dome? Uh, but they wanted to give teams enough time to prepare, uh, once they figured out that, you know, They were going to be the ones playing and then, you know, there's Thanksgiving there. And Hey, you know, if you can get your family's at the teams can get their families down to San Antonio, bring them in and have them in for the whole weekend and then finished off with a championship game. I mean, that's pretty good Thanksgiving. Don't you think. I think it's cool. The other options in the San Antonio area include like, uh, Live captions provided by Rev.com. For 99% accurate post-meeting transcripts and captions, visit Rev.com.Do one of the game and do what to do with a couple of games therethere's there's options. For, uh, that, that week to have an alternate.Alternative place to go. Uh, we wanted to also discuss the,or the recent news on the lawsuit between Vince and all that stuff going on. What's the latest on that?Uh, they have recently, and this was a couple of weeks ago.They recently lifted the stay on the Oliver luck, Vince McMahon suit. The reason that they did that was because they wanted to make sure. Uh, that the sale of the league went through so that the court handling, uh, the lawsuit between luck and McMahon could add alpha entertainment as a co-defendant with McMahon. Uh, to, for, for that all to be, to be in there. So that's part of the update. There is another update to that. Uh, Um, they have. They have gone into the last stage of the bankruptcy case. Uh, they have, uh, there. They've sent the proposal and the liquidation analysis out to the creditors. Uh, committee. And that's going to vote now. Uh, the, the vote will be official. I think you get to, I think they have until December 4th. Uh, it's a vote. Uh, they L they have until December. Yes, December 1st two, uh, two object, December 4th to vote. Uh, there'll be a hearing on December 11th and, uh, um, that will, that will pretty much end everything in there is actually another update from yesterday. They filed a piece of paper. Uh, to, to extend the time for a alpha. Whether they're going to reject or assume. A couple of leases. Uh, on some, uh, uh, storage facilities and a practice facility, there is a storage facility in Seattle. Uh, that they are deciding on whether or not to keep, uh, keep that lease. There is also a moving company contract that this company does moving from. Does this big equipment that's big business. Uh, tech, uh, they do, uh, they do stadiums. They do sports stuff. Uh, you know, that's what they specialize in. They're based out of, out of Phoenix, Arizona. Uh, and then there's also a lease on the, on the, uh, the practice facility for the Houston roughnecks. A Rangers, uh, uh, practice facility there that they're, that they're weighing the options now. If they were to reject it, that does not mean that, that the new iteration of the XFL can't use it. Uh, it just means that they weren't able to, to get any kind of negotiation going for. You know this particular time, if they assume it, that means that they have negotiated a dollar amount to settle up the bill from before. And a new agreement to go forward. Now, if they don't reach that agreement to go forward, then they will reject it. And they'll become part of the, the, uh, the unsecured creditors right now. So. Uh, you know, right now, uh, anybody that has a lease or a contract that has been assumed is not part of this bankruptcy there. Their, their, their bill is being worked out or has been paid already. Uh that's that's the process of that, but if it has been a rejected contract, then that means that they go into. Uh, the creditors. Uh, lists. So, you know, that's, that's the thing that they're working on right now. So a lot of moving pieces. Yeah. And all this. That's on the news. Have if you go on, Josh has an article on there, that's got the whole timeline and everything laid out. So it's a ton of work and I appreciate you. Just keeping us up on that. Cause it's, it's definitely something that people are curious about what's going to happen. So yeah. Ah, thanks, man. I really appreciate you coming on, Paul. You good? Sound good. Thanks again, Josh for dropping in and updating us on spring league. And latest on the lawsuit. Yes, sir. Thanks for having me guys. Josh is just a great guy. Yeah. We appreciate him coming on. And, uh, yeah. He said he wor he said he wore his blue Kentucky Jersey today. And honor, they, I guess one of their coaching staff lost, they lost one of their coaching staff to cancer. So Joshua was wearing that. If we didn't ask him about that, we're recording this and then were inserted it into, maybe we already asked him about it. You're giving away the trade secrets here. Read. Come on, man. Then, then that's a good sound. So anyway. Um, What, what, what, what do we have to wrap up here with. For a lot of stuff. We covered a lot of stuff I wanted to talk about. Um, I want to talk about the rock. Um, and this is also a Josh Davis articles. Maybe we talked about him. But this is a lot, I don't know. But, uh, the rock is, if you thought that I get, I don't want to get, there's no political stuff on this podcast, but there was the rock endorsed by then. It was a lot of drama, a lot of XFL fans thought, okay. You know, we don't like this, or we're not going to support this. A rock. Posted. I watched the whole thing this morning. I was on chat as support with Apple, trying to get some stuff figured out and that. The rock is standing firm. Like he is like, I don't care if I p**s you off, like, this is what's happening and you got to put on your big boy britches and move on. So have you thought that the rock. People like hate tweeting at him and whatever the rock is is going forward. And this is, I don't know, it's the rock story. It's like, we're not talking about politics, but at the same time, it's just like, In 2016. People that didn't vote for Trump were told F your feelings, Trump's your president deal with it. And now it seems like the shoe's on the other foot and that crowd is not having an easy time. And I don't want to get into specifics on who I voted for. I will tell you that I voted for neither major party candidate. I did vote. I didn't vote for either of the major party candidates. If you listen to Willow house, you'll know who I voted for. Um, that being said, it's just like it, this bickering just needs to stop. Like can't we just, can we just do this for maybe like three months, every four years and not drag this out for a four year process. And I think that's what we want to get back to this wipe. A lot of people did vote for Biden is because we want to get back to the normal business of not having to worry about what someone says on Twitter. Or what fake news is being disseminated by one organization. I just think that we need to get past all this. And I think that's what the rock basically meant by his statements. Like, okay, it's done it's over with, let's just move forward and try to. Reunite as a country and I commend them for that. Yeah, there are just a couple of pullout quotes that Josh had. The rock said, the reason I got emotional yesterday was because I felt my voice was represented. My voice represented my little girl's. It represented humanity, decency and the principles and values that Laura, my wife and I instill in our little daughter's finally, my vote represented the importance of just being a decent human being. And to me being a decent human being matters, you also said we've all been there. We fought for things. We believed in our heart and passion and we still lose. I want you to know I'm still here. I'm not turning my back on. You just. Just because we have a difference of opinions or voted on someone else. I'm going to make sure I can continue to do all I possibly can to make sure we're working together as a United front unified front. So, I mean, that's the thing is, you know, politics aside, you know, the rock is kind of part of the ownership and we just need to. You can't let that get in the way you need to just know that the rock is going for football and he can have beliefs and you can have different beliefs and we're still going to go together. Or we can just appreciate, you know, You just appreciate football. For what it is, and we can appreciate the things we enjoy together, Republican or Democrat or libertarian or green party or socialist, whatever the case may be. Let's just appreciate the things that make us American, whether it be Apple, buy hot dogs, football, whatever it is. Football is getting unite. The world that's that's my calling. Okay. That's my belief. You think that you think that's a pipe dream? Do you think your XFL football can unite America? Anything's possible. No really. I don't, I don't really make out anything. If you would've, if you would've told me five years ago, the Trump would have been president and I will laugh in your face, but, and it's not disrespect. I just, I didn't understand the kind of swell of the ground swell of support he would have. So. That all being said, anything's possible. My uncle used to tell me that all the time and clearly he's, he was 100%. Right. So. Would that being said, we're moving on. NFL. Expansion of playoffs. No, no, no, no, no, no more expanding playoffs. I knew you wouldn't be happy about this at the MLB. I mean, they said it's not a guaranteed. If they miss any like meaningful games is going to be half, the teams are going to go in there. That's not. So this is ridiculous. The reason why the NBA playoffs feel stupid. Is because everybody gets in there's 30 MBA teams and 16 teams get in. Everybody gets in, more people get into don't get in. It's ridiculous. I think the playoffs are a reward system, not like, Oh, you were mediocre in the Eastern conference and you had a sub 500. And you just happened to be the seventh best team in the conference. And you lost five more games than you one, but guess what? Since you're the seventh best team, best team in the conference. We're going to get you in the playoffs. That's not the way this thing should work. It should be very selective. So when baseball is talking about expanding to 16 teams permanently, I hope that's not a situation. Um, this is just ridiculous. Let's just keep it at six, six. It's fine. Six is fine. MLS. Another situation. Did you know every team in MLS soccer in the Eastern conference is in the playoffs. Every team in the Eastern conference is in the playoffs. This is insane. The playoffs are reward system for doing good in the regular season. Why are we expanding playoffs all the time? It's like a, it's like the Andre, the giant battle Royal in WrestleMania where they're like, well, we got to get everybody on the card. So we're going to do a big 30 person. You can have like your six Marquee matches, and then we're going to put everybody else in the mat so that they all feel like they got on the show. The fatal four way tag team title match with four different tag teams and he's tagged team has three people on it. The free bird rules going on. Look, let's just allow this to be a reward system. This is more. And I hate to go down this rabbit hole, but screw it. We're talking about participation trophies. This is kind of that mentality where like everybody gets a trophy. It shouldn't be that way. It should be the select few. Like if you play good in the regular season, your ward should be the playoffs. Not if you did mediocre enough to get into the playoffs. That's not the way it should work and baseball and hockey and football and MLS, whatever the sport is, you're falling right now. It's going into the playoffs. You should not be rewarded for mediocre play and that's what's happening with some of these playoffs situation. Let's get it out of here. Let's keep it in it. Just the six. Yeah. It's nuts. It's. That's crazy. To brighten up the mood here, though. We're in touch with this crazy golf shots. Yes. It's insane. This is real, right? This isn't like a deep Valley. It's 100% real. Okay, I'm going to put my hand up here. So I know they edit the video in here for this. But like, it gives if we can show this, right. I mean, not that. It was nuts. It's going to skipping across the thing. And then I, this is the most incredible golf shot I've ever seen in my life. Yeah, I don't, I I've never seen anything like this. I literally have never seen anything like this. So when I saw some like, Oh, that's a cool shot to get on the green. That's what I was thinking. I was like, Yeah. On the green. Great. That's amazing. He got, it was amazing for him to skip the ball across the water to get on the green. And then when it banked and I went, you got to be effing. Kidding me. There's no way. And I'm like, Oh, it's going to end out like two inches from the cup. I got this incredible. Yay. That's going to be incredible in itself. And then the outright, see, we're talking about things. Nothing's impossible. This. The laws of physics were broken on this day with this shot. This is incredible. And then did you see just today I'll post the video here to this enormous alligator that was crawling out of the water. I didn't post it on here, but they said that they're like defenses in Jurassic park. Must've gone down because this thing is like dyno size walking across the green. Just another golf store. I saw, I saw that big Gator. I was like, what? What is happening. I see. Just start a popery section at the end. So we're fine. If you are done with the accent, Val, you got Josh Davis. This is, I mean, this is just kind of like what's random stuff that they read fine this week that he wants to talk about, but the big, the big ass alligator, and then the crazy golf shot that was to, I mean, who knew golf and then the masters that starting today. Yesterday with the PI it's all coming together. It's all together. Right? It's great. So, Oh, there is something that's kind of related to, uh, do alternate football here. It's Miro. Miro better known as [unknown]. Uh, from WWE. I don't know if we can say it anymore. He used to be [unknown]. It's fine. It used to be used to be moose. He is joined. Fan controlled football. Yeah. This is huge. I was, I was thinking about this and they're getting a lot, cause I think we're on the cutting edge of this. Cause we were kind of talking about it last week, you know, we did on the podcast and then, um, you know, I hadn't, I hadn't seen a lot of stuff before that. And now, you know, they've, they've got him there picking the team name. So they've got, they're really focusing on people with big online presences, right? Kind of like the Twitch area. Yes. Miro. He does a lot of like game streaming. You have kind of funny games, uh, Greg Miller and the team over there, they do a lot of like internet videos. Uh, you got, you know, Richard Sherman, you got a Mike Tyson. You've got Quavo. You've got a lot of guys, but they're all, all of them are going to have different teams. We are, as part of the team names are some of the dumbest names I've ever heard though. Like all Marshawn Lynch's part of it. Um, the wild ACEs, terrible name, like some of these names, the BESE, like terrible names, like really, really terrible names. But there it's this like seven on seven. We did the whole breakdown on it, like last week or the week before, but they're really getting a lot of big names. I think Miro is a big name for them to get up. I think it is too. And I think that that's, they're targeting the online streaming community. It's clear with, with getting mere on board. And this is stuff that mirror wouldn't been able to do. Had he been a, an employee with WWE because of course. As you know, they've, uh, they're now hiring the WVU is hiring a talent brand manager. I don't know if you saw this post. On their corporate employment website, they're hiring someone to oversee. The Twitch accounts and the cameo accounts. From talent. And I just, this is, this is going to end very badly for the WB. I'm going to say it. This is what's probably going to be the domino that causes the wrestlers to unionize. This is that well, you need to allow them to, to make, to make money on their own. I mean, is, is the biggest thing. And what they're trying to try to say, as, you know, right. That they made the name, right? Like, You know, we may still go see Boston. So if stoicism. He's. I mean, he's not, but yeah, if he wants to make money on his own, but he's using the name that we built, then we own that. And they're trying to like have this ownership and I just don't think. Yeah, I just don't think just because Debbie, Debbie trademarks and name that they're entitled to all those commissions that you're going to get off of that. Right? This is, this is a situation where WWE is wanting it's cake immediate, too. Yeah, they want to classify you as an independent contractor, but. If you want your hair cut. You got to get their approval. Do you want to do this? You gotta get their approval. You want to get a tattoo? You got to get their approval. You want to get implants. You got to get their approval. You want to go undergo surgery, you got to get their approval. That's the thing it's like, you are independent contractor, unless you do something they don't want you to do. And then all of a sudden they treat you and I know I can employ sustainment. Vince has been doing for years. And it's like, get off, you know, crap or get off the pot. You got to choose one of the other either. You're gonna treat them as independent contractors and you're gonna let them have more say in their creative personas. Or you're just going to let it go. You're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna be like, okay, fine. You know, whatever. Here we go. Miro gave email. They kind of messed him around a lot. Is still there that write his wife. Right. He goes through a table every week. Well, he just kinda got sick of it. You know, he was, he was at the height of his power back when we went to new Orleans, people were chanting Rousseff day. They never gave him a break. And now look. Everywhere. Those shirts where everywhere I had one. Didn't you have, did you have one? No, I didn't ever reception. I had one. We went to, we went to grab brunch. Maybe Steven was drinking a little bit early for your tastes. Had the, uh, remember. Remember the, uh, the glass. The asset class. Last the body shape last, he was like, this is the perfect last of the me too movement. Steven was there. He had a [unknown]. Shirt on everybody had these shirts and Rousseff was one of the most over people in the company. And they squandered it. But now I think this fan controlled football, I think a lot of people were getting excited. I think, you know, the spring league, a lot of people excited and a lot of the accounts that got onto their following that I think people like kind of this, if you like alternative football league, things like exit fell like the spring Lake. I do think there's this fan controlled football league. It could be a mess. It could be a mass, but at least they're trying something. And I think it will be good. Awesome. So would that being said. Have you ever taken a five-hour nap? No. I think that's called sleep, Paul. Yeah. Normally. Friend of the friend of the show, Chad. Which I think of. To either, but he took a five hour nap the other day and missed the Patriots game. And I just thought he takes a five-hour nap. That's gone. It's kind of a good tongue in cheek thing where he, like, he was like, Oh, I tried to watch this thing, but it was like a five-hour nap. I think maybe it was a joke. Oh, I take it. So golf. I took it at face value. My chat is. She had sleeping. He's a funny dude. Chad's a funny dude. We'd love to have him on again. Hopefully, maybe someday soon. I know he's doing a lot of stuff with the NFL network and their podcast division. So who knows? Maybe we can get. We found them first, when you see first. In a nail parlor, getting his, getting his petty and Manny on before he took a flight to Miami. Um, we had him on our podcast. So would that being said. Uh, want to thank you everyone for listening again. What are the websites to go to for people to get their merchandise? Get their reviews. Uh, so the hat's going on. Thank you, Paul, because I'm in the, I couldn't, I'm like can never figure out how to do that. I tried to add the hat. I'm an idiot. I XFL show.com/merch. We got the hat, we got like shirts and stickers and all that kind of stuff. Uh, XFL show.com/review. If you want to review the podcast, we really appreciate all the XFL and spring league fans and everybody for showing their support on that. And, uh, yeah, subscribe on YouTube. It'd be great. You know, find this on the XFL news hub and all the other staff. I really appreciate. Um, I think where it's on the bigger and better things, I think we're moving forward. Awesome. So we'll see you next week. Again, uh, we want to again say thank you to the XFL news hub for bringing us on. We appreciate the, the branch and we're, we're excited to work with you guys over there. And, uh, yeah, good things to come in. We'll be keeping you up-to-date on alternative football news as well as the XFL. Going forward. Thanks. Thank you, Sheena and Josh. Yes. Thank you, Sheena and Josh for joining us, can't forget you. People gotta be in a gender neutral because we had a guy and a girl. It's good. More voice, more voices. The better we love having everybody on. Of course. Big, thanks to Sheena and Josh for coming on and we'll see you next week. Thanks.

XFL Markcast Episode 13 - Spring League Smackdown (ft. James Larsen)

I could not be more ready. I know you're not, I know you could not be more ready, so let's get into it. Huh? Go it's week number 13, hopefully it's lucky. Number 13. What, what, what would you like our luck to bring about? What would you like to cash in our luck on, Uh, well, we've got our new, uh, not gonna reach your HSA every, about showing off anymore guests. Yeah, we have finally solved. I think the problem with the hats, If you're watching the video version, you got to admit, this looks sick, right? It looks good. It looks good. I'm glad they finally gave us a quality product. It's been what I would say. It's been about 13 weeks since we started doing this process of the hat production. So it looks good. It's got the XFL Markcast logo on front, on the side. It's got another XFL logo. And on the other side, the real talk homey logo, uh, yeah, for the network that we're on, you can get them now while he's almost get them. Now we'll probably put them up maybe within the next week just to make sure everything is fine. We'll put them up within the next week and we'll be ready to go with that. So anyway, like I said, yeah, that'd be great. Thank you for your patience. Yeah, we, we finally got through it. We had a, the, the story last week, w w they, the logo was bad. You know, we had issues with it. We redesigned the whole logo, then they printed it. It was off-centered. We went through that whole thing, had lots of laughs. And then last week we didn't have time to get into it. They actually melted the front of the hat. And so it came to me and I'm like, it kind of looked weird and I was like, wow, it's cold outside. Maybe it's been kind of cold in the hat box what's ever going on. And then the next day I'm like, no, this hat is, I definitely melted. And it's like emailed to her, our rep. And she goes, Oh yeah, they, they applied to my cheat. Like, it's definitely melted. And I'm like, but you still put it in the box and shipped it, knowing that like you signed off on this and Seven where's the quality control there. So we Got a XFL show that con slash merge. We got all the other staff. I know Allen Allen Chitlin. Uh, my friend bought a shirt. I appreciate that. And then, uh, we got some reviews to get into too real quick before we give them to all the news. You got all the reviews. So how are we looking on that? Uh, we're really good. And, and we've had a lot come in this week. Remember we're still doing, uh, you can, uh, get your free mask. Uh, you get a white mask or a Gator, actually, all of these have just come in from the nicest that people's hearts, which I appreciate. I mean, you can certainly just leave us a review as well if you enjoy the podcast. But, uh, we did have these all come in this week and I don't think we shipped out any new masks. So a DME, if you want one, but otherwise we just really appreciate the support. Again, this is just, you know, if you're an XFL fan, we're talking TSL today, we got James Larson coming on and talking to, you know, the spring league. And so, you know, if you're a fan of that and the content, uh, just feel free to leave us a review XFL, show that, um, at a spell show.com/review. Again, if you're an XFL fan, uh, we've got the Tasmanian. He says, XFL, XFL, XFL, great show. And funny, keep it up and thanks for keeping it alive. We've got outsider. These guys are the best great show and great dudes. I wish I found this podcast sooner. Well, there you go. For 13 weeks. Can't hold that against you. You know, uh, Kenny Stevenson, uh, I posted this one on Twitter. He goes, ah, great podcast. These guys claimed the Jazzers as their team from the spring league, without even seeing the team play game, got to love it. And that is unsolicited. That just came in a anonymous DJ. I've glad I ran across this podcast because it's very good. Make sure to share it with your friends. They are missing out. And then finally, Matt Lyons, a friend of the show, uh, he's a writer to a great show and great dudes, really fun guests all the time, too. James will be included in that as a fun guest. These guys are just as excited as I am for the XFL. Do yourselves a favor and check out this podcast ASAP. And he threw in the go dragons, which is good. So again For go for me. So It felt show.com/review. If you are a fan of the XFL and the spring league, and that we hope to keep growing and we just appreciate all the support makes me feel good when I wake up, We definitely do. We definitely do appreciate the support Wake up in the morning and they get those reviews. I get a little email from rate this podcast. That comment, it makes me happy Again. If w if you, uh, I guess it's XFL show.com/review or rate those podcasts.com/xfl, I'll goes to the same place. You're welcome. You're welcome technology. Yes, that's great. Um, I also want to say that when James comes on, I'm going to let you kind of steer the conversation because I've been out of the loop because I've been covering the election stuff. I've been really out of loop with DSL this week. It's been a hectic week. Of course, as we record this, we still don't know who the president is, which is crazy to me, but this is the world we're living in right now. So I've been out of the loop. I'm going to let you try and drive that conversation with James. Hopefully I can engage somewhat. We'll see how it goes later on in the show. Absolutely. Yeah. And this'll be a, you know, a lot of stuff going on. This is politics free. This is just XFL spring league. And yeah, I appreciate James coming on and, and we have him, you know, chat and stuff just cause I know that it's so crazy with everything going on in your work. So I appreciate him coming on to talk about the spring Lake. Yep. So that would, that being said, let's start the show. The big news, I think that we need to talk about is how PJ Walker made it onto an NFL NFL field. Well, you had that look on your face. Like I'm spoiling, like the ghost that laid the golden egg. Aye. We cannot, when we record on Thursday last week, it was a huge inconvenience to get Jay on, uh, not inconvenience to get jammed, but I think convenience as you went on Thursday, we go, this episode is going to be fresh, fresh, hot out of the oven content coming that Friday morning, what happens Thursday night, PJ Walker comes in and plays can't win. We can't win, Cannot win at all. Of course, uh, his, a head coach at temple is the, uh, Matt rule. Is he the offensive coordinator for the Panthers or is he the, I think he's the offensive coordinator for the Panthers. Of course they have, they have a relationship, PJ Walker and him have a relationship. Uh, we hope Teddy Bridgewater is okay, but it was interesting. You know, when this, when this was all going down after I had already edited the episode and published it and send it to the, to the server, I went to work and then read texts me is like, and I was right in the middle of the thing, very important and reads like, Oh my God, PJ Walker, my feeds blowing up. Uh, talk about what you did. Were you watching this? As it went down, This is honest to God. True, true, uh, hand to God, Mike Mitchell, friend of the show, he's a writer. He always posts on Twitter that he watches all, all the NFL games anyway, but he always watches the ones that the XFL players and I've been watching the Panthers play for a while now. And I told Dorothy, I go, there's always a chance that Teddy Bridgewater is going to go down. PJ Walker is going to come in. They've kind of been doing a flippy flop with who the, like the backup QB is week to week. But now it seems like it's BJ Walker, Dorothy and I are standing, uh, eating dinner at the kitchen Island. And I'll tell you a PJ locker came in and it went as viral as anything could ever go with my tiny little Twitter account. But I had Dorothy's dad was texting me, Alan friend of the show, the bot his shirt was texting me. Uh, w I mean, Twitter was just, it was crazy. It was insane. Yeah. Very, very big news. Um, it's almost, Disney-esque almost Disney as she, you know, like a Disney film, like you get this guy, that's a quarterback in this, this B league. It gets shut down because of COVID. And then he finds his way to, uh, make it into an NFL game and probably established himself as the backup quarterback in Carolina. And we've seen this before. We're back up, quarterbacks ended up becoming, you know, uh, they end up becoming, you know, the starters that that's a possibility. So we'll see what happens for sure. Uh, and, and forgive me, I don't know the name of the, the wide receiver that he was throwing the touchdown pass through because PJ came in and his first pass was like, just this. It was like a Russell Wilson moon ball. They, I don't know, they drive that into the ground, but right into the end zone. And like, my world stopped. And I thought, man, if you Walker's going to come in and throw a TD pass on his first play in an NFL game, whether it been crazy, whether it be crazy, but he played for like two sets and then they put in a Teddy Bridgewater again. And that was, that was about the end of that. And then the world kept on spinning. And, uh, according to recent updates, Teddy Bridgewater is suffering from a neck injury, which means it's going to keep them out for probably, you would say you for safety issues, six to eight weeks, you're looking at, and I know the Panthers weren't probably expecting to do much in terms of that division. I mean, you have, uh, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, of course, who are, you know, rolling right now. They had a great comeback win this week. Uh, you also have the saints who are always, you know, always in the mix there and then the South. So I really don't see, uh, an Avenue for the Panthers to get above and get into the fray because I mean, looking at the box, we're probably gonna win the division. The saints are probably going to finish second. And then you have to contend with everybody in the NFC West who has at least 500, at least 500 right now the NFC West is the toughest division in football. So you have to figure that at least three of the playoff teams are coming from the NFC West. So Carolina really has nothing to lose here if they just want to roll with PJ Walker for the entire season. I didn't, I guess I, I, and I just Googled too. I mean, I didn't know that Bridgewater was still out. I found that he was back. Good to go. That's fine. But he practiced. He practiced on Wednesday and he fully participated, but it's a neck injury. They might probably, they probably set them out still. It's a neck injury. You don't wanna, you don't wanna play with neck injuries. You wanna play with head injuries, especially after the kind of hit the Bridgewater took, it was a cheap hit. It really wasn't cheaper. So I'm hopefully the best for him. But this might be a situation where you just go F it. Let's see what goes on. Let's see what happens. Let's roll PJ Walker out there and see what he can do. Are you saying dumb and dumber that there's still a chance? There's always a chance. There's always a chance. I'd say just talking about the bow. I watched the Buccaneers game on Monday that Tom Brady is the most interesting man in the entire world. I have to say that I, I tweeted a couple of videos that you have him slamming his helmet into the bench. And then there was like this 15, second clip of the rear. They're going to break her coming out of the break. And he was like blowing his nose with like this Gatorade towel. And I'm like, this, he's just like, it's just the most interesting creature to watch this guy. 43, probably the most talented quarterback ever. And it's just a weird dude. Have we settled the, the, the debate on which, which who helped? Who have we settled? The debate between Belicheck and brainy now? I think, yeah, I think we have, you know, they sit there, they keep saying that brainy succeeded in Belicheck system because he's assistant quarterback. Well, it helps when the system is actually Tom Brady, that's the way I'm looking at it now is like, Bella check is a good coach, probably one of the greatest coaches, if not the greatest coach of all time, I will say that. But would he have been the greatest coach of all time without brainy? Now that's the question I have to ask. That's the, you know, that's, that's the kind of thing that we have to like entertain. Yeah. Bella check was fired in Cleveland. Like bell chicks been fired before people had Bellacheck as their head coach. And I know Cleveland's a dumpster fire, but people have had bill Belichick as their coach before, and he has been let go. So, you know, maybe this is a ms. Tom Brady and not the other way round. He was, uh, he was yelling and screaming and he loved it. He loves like yelling at the guy. And especially when there's no fans, like you can really hear him on the field. Like, like what's happening, Tom, calm down Is he's wired. I love you love to see it. You love to see that his he's still got the passion for the game. And you know, it's probably gonna, it's probably going to be key. It's probably gonna go another two years. I see it. I see it. So we'll see what happens there. So moving on, moving on. What'd you want to talk about, I do I talk about Danny Garcia celebrating Halloween? That was kinda cute. I saw it. Um, I saw the, a pumpkin that's cool little carved pumpkin that she celebrates she's. She is like probably the biggest XFL Mark in the world right now. We're not, no, we're not saying that like a bad thing, but we're like, she is more gung ho about the XFL than Reed is. And that is, that is probably, that's probably the reason why they purchased this league was because she is clearly the enthusiastic one about it. She clearly wants to make a name for herself and we've said it before. We don't want to refer to her as the Rock's ex wife. That crack is stupid. She wants to make her own name and she is making her own name. And this is cool. This is cool to see All marks are welcome here on the Markcast. If you want to come on and chats and XFL, happy to have you happy to have you come on. But not that, that was cute. That was, I was live streaming, a Halloween wedding, and I saw that kind of going on my Twitter and I just, I thought that was cute. You know, it's just, it's like we try to do here on the markets, just keep it in the, keep it in the lexicon, keep it in the, keep it ongoing. And Danny posted that and getting however many fricking, you know, billion, Twitter, followers, thousand whatever stuff. It's good. So, Uh, it's definitely a culture thing for her. It's like, you know, she's building a culture here and it's working for sure. So she did that, that, that she posted that and that she posted like one of those, how did it start? How's it going things. And it was like the drawing of exit element she's on it. I mean, she's savvy, she's social media savvy. So that's fine. That was good. We to get back to quarterbacks, former quarterbacks of the XFL. And I saw that, uh, of course we talked about Jordan taboo being, let go from the Kansas city chiefs from the practice squad. It was clear that, uh, they really didn't need him. I mean, Patrick barring any injuries, Patrick Williams, which we don't want to see. And I've said it numerous times, I think Kansas city is going back to the super bowl this year. Um, Jordan, Tammy, we needed a place to land and apparently he's got, what's the update on that? Is he with the practice squad for the Detroit lions or? Yeah. So he, Mike Mitchell reported that, uh, [inaudible] uh, got, uh, how the try today with the lions. I don't, the lions are kind of a mystery to me. I don't really follow that whole, I don't know. I'm not, I'm not super knowledgeable about the lions. What do you know about them, Paul? Um, I'm kind of a West coast kind of a West coast. And then, you know, I stand Brady and that's about it, but I mean, the, the, I want to say in that division, the, of course, you know, you always got to look at green Bay as the team, uh, to, to, uh, to topple basically. And you know, Detroit's in the mix, they're three and four right now, Chicago Chicago's there at five and three, of course. Um, I don't really see a, a solid Detroit team going any further than what they're going right now. There's the kind of team that's going to lose a bunch of games, probably down the, down the, down the pipeline. So this is not really anything, you know, that's going to change their change their season, um, because they have to of course overcome green Bay. And that's just not going to happen. I mean, if you move to Detroit to the NFC East, then they'd have a chance because like the number one team in the NFC is still has a losing record. And the second place team is, is two and five. This is just, you know, but I just don't see any situation where, I don't know. Maybe it's it's, it's, it's it's, uh, it's Detroit. That's all I got to say. Let me give him a chance. I mean, yeah, it was, it was a sad day. He got released from the chiefs and my people have been watching that, you know, he's got a trial with Alliance. I mean, you know, and we'll get into this too with the Cowboys and, and their, uh, quarterback talent, but I tell you, I just don't get, I I've been listening to a lot more sports talk and I'm talking about like Nick Foles and the bears, and like all these different quarterback problems. And we're going to have James on and talking about the scream league and all of this. I mean, there's a lot of good talent out there and like Jordan taboo, and that you're going to, you're going with these guys, like, even back with Andy Dalton and everyone said, you know, we know what Dalton's going to do. He comes out, you know, he gets her, we hope he's okay. But like, you know, a lot of these guys and what they're going to do. So why would you not try to bring in somebody else, some new blood? I mean, what do you have to lose at this point? We're halfway through the season. I mean, if you're going to lose, you know, start building for next season, right. And I will have to say this, this did come down yesterday. Of course, the lions are one of the teams that are being affected by COVID there. They have a player that's on the COVID list. And they also added one, not too long ago to the COVID list. We're talking about Matthew Stafford, the quarterback for the Detroit lions is now on the COVID list. He was in a, he was in close contact with the non-team member who tested positive for COVID. So this is the second time Matthew Stafford has been on the COVID list. Are we going to record to them? They're going to announce like Tom, who is starting for the lions tomorrow, Probably given our luck, given our luck with a situation, they probably announce it like an hour after we're done recording that's crew is going to start for Detroit this week. So that would be just our luck for that to happen. I think his stats would be hypothetically, if you plays this weekend, like, uh, w w what would be decent starting for, you know, two, two TD is he takes him to the wind, right. At the end, you know, I don't think even needs to take him to the win, uh, who are, who is Detroit playing this week? Are they playing anybody week? You know? Cause that's, the problem is like, it's, it's nice to try to keep up on the schedule and figure things out. But the schedule is always all over the place because of COVID. So they planned the Vikings. I mean, my Queens, yes. They're playing the Vic Queens And the lions over the Vikings right now. I wouldn't take that too. Cause the Vikings are, they're terrible. They're terrible right now as well. So, um, I really think that maybe, maybe it's a situation where a taboo comes in, gets at least 50% of his passes completed. That'd be a good, that'd be a good number. Maybe throws a couple of touchdowns. He's gonna probably gonna throw one pick, maybe, you know, maybe a line where it's like a nine for 17, two touchdowns, one pick 178 yards. It may. And he ran in that crazy random , crazy TD at the end buzzer beater. I'm just trying to give us some stuff. And then if he does play this week and I'm going to like clip this out and I'm going to post it. Yeah. And then we're going to go buy lottery tickets and, and life will be great. Yeah, Yeah, yeah. Let's say, so the town we rented then at the end, dive diving, touchdown a score over the pack. I call it the, over the, over the Vikings. No, but like over the, you know, like over the hump of guys, like, you know, when they dive over the thing. Yeah. Dive into the end zone. Yes. Over, over the line of scrimmage. Got it. Okay. I will say one quick note. I posted the other day we did our fan controlled football thing. It got a lot of good feedback. Fan control their account, you know, retweeted it and, and they like, you know, they follow us now and everything. Um, go back last week. If you want to listen to that, you know, Twitch and you can vote on football games. It sounds interesting. And they're getting ready to launch in February, but I posted that. And um, and one of the, the Facebook groups and this guy, cause I think I made a joke on there, like while it really wants sports or which, cause the joke is I'm XFL fan, right? That's the joke. And this guy comments, he goes, this guy is listening to sports. Why should I listen to this show? And I just wrote back. I said, for our charming personality and good humor, was he talking about you or me? Well, me. Cause I was the one that made the joke. I mean, it was, it was a jab at me. You're you're, you're not as like you have been watching sports as long, as long as I, I'm not trying to gate keep on area here. I know you've admitted that. And we've, we both admitted that. We know that. So it's just like, who cares? He's he's getting into it now. Why that crap is so stupid. It's it's really awesome. This is the XFL Marquez. It's the fan controlled football sports expert phenomenon. Okay. We were down people simmer down. Let's let's brighten the mood in here. After we take a break, let's bring in James Larson, uh, to chat about the TSL. How's it going, sir? Hey, can you guys hear me? All right. You sound great. Thanks. All right. Good. Thanks for making time today. I know you're running around with classes and work and everything else, so thanks for doing that. Yeah, of course. And he has been pretty busy, but yeah. So, uh, we got John, he reached out. You want to talk about spring league? Uh, I watched the games yesterday. The gestures are, are kicking off right now. I think they're probably going to lose. I don't think we need to speculate too much about that idea of the podcast, but uh, what were, uh, I have my own takeaways from yesterday, but what were your takeaways from watching the games? Well, yeah, I got to catch most of those games, um, in between everything. Um, I had some internet issues, which is annoying. Um, but games are really good at, I'm really surprised with how exciting all three televised games have been so far. Um, back in week one, um, the General's conquerors game was great. And then that you came yesterday, blues and aviators came down to the wire alphas and conquers came down to the wire. Both games were really exciting around all around in general, in my opinion. Um, the one that was kind of funny was there was a decent amount of just like interesting things that went down, which, you know, the, the whole fight with the outlet between, um, McMillan and the alphas coach and Dwayne Wallace. I was disappointed to see Dwayne Wallace. I mean, he got a jacket and then he was back in the game. So I don't know what was going on with that. Um, but besides all that crazy stuff, it was fun to watch. Yeah, that was my thing was, um, you know, and obviously there was the big fight at the end with, uh, Justin McMillan and the, and the alphas coach. And I just, the whole time I'm watching this game and I'm thinking, okay, this is, this is for players to get tape. This is for players. And this is kind of where I wanted to get. I know Paul has been crazy busy work in and MSL. I find, I mean, I sent, I sent the clip, uh, for Paul to see if the big scuffle at the end of the alphas game or the, um, excuse me, B uh, the Congress game. And it just crazy to me that these guys have national television exposure, right. The whole point is to play, to get, to get reps. And yeah, the first game you have a guy thrown out, punching the guy ejected from the game, and then they obviously brought him back in because of, um, I guess they just literally didn't have enough players, right. To fill out the teams. You have the player, you have the penalty for a player spitting on another player. I mean, this is COVID-19 yeah. Spitting on another player, 15 yard penalty. And then at the end of the game, you had McMillan going and, um, right. Justin McMillan, uh, the Congress QB and there, there was the, um, like the fumble, you know, the past, whatever. And he literally goes and jumps on the guy. And I know he got pulled. I mean, what did you think of all that? What did you think of all the different fights and scuffles, and then ultimately the Macmillan fight at the end? It's pretty crazy. The one thing that disappointed me that I think the most, maybe on the most, but up there was the, the spitting thing. Cause I mean, come on, like, especially with Colby going on, like one of the world, are you thinking? And that was also Dwayne Wallace, I believe who was a former LA wild cat. He was on in the XFL. So just to me, it's just wanting to see someone like him do that. He had the opportunity in the XFL. Now he's getting an opportunity to spring lead. Like why was the point of doing that? No good comes from that. And again, it's not even like he's at the NFL level yet. It's not even like he's in the XFL. Let's do the spring league strictly for film. So he'll eventually get picked up maybe by an NFL team or worst come to worst in 2022, the XFL one players have action, Jamaica actions like that. It just makes people like, I don't want that sort of attitude on my team. Um, so yeah, I, I didn't understand that at all. And that one discussed to me the most McMillan. Um, there was no need for him to really jump into that, but he did get pulled into it. So, I mean, when tensions are high, when you emotions going like crazy, I've been in football games before, not really games like that, but football games where things get heated and then, you know, you're in the game, your adrenaline is going and you're like, man, I'm angry, but still you got to learn how to control those things. And you know, it's not like not let that happen because now on national TV, McMillan hasn't even done much in the spring league. He's biggest thing. The biggest thing that's going to come out from that is that fight for him. So it's just, it's interesting because these people are, these athletes are actually paying to play to get film and it's like, you're, you're, you're investing in yourself and you're blowing your own investment by doing these types of things. The enemy just from, from my, I did not think McMillan had a good game. I know that he had got put in right at the second half. I think they were doing the split, um, you know, the split with the QBs, for the conquers and you know, it was a lot of running and it was a lot of panicking. It was a lot of not, I just didn't see a lot of good play. And then it kind of ended with that. I thought, man, dude, you like, you are, you know, again, I we're after the election on Fs one slash Fs two on a, on a Wednesday night, I mean, whatever, but the tape from that, and, and it went, I was telling Paul before he went on, I mean, it went as viral as a TSL game could on [inaudible] the night after the election. I mean, it wasn't a big deal. That was pretty much all the TSL talk, which of course it's not that big, especially compared to the XFL, but yeah, as you said for the spring league, it went about as viral as it could have gone. Um, that was like just the main takeaway from last night. So yeah. What did you think of the aviators with the blues? I thought that was a great game down to the wire. We had a walk-off punt return in overtime. I mean, this was like everything that you could want from, you know, a bili kind of spring football game. I mean, what did you think about it? Oh, I thought it was great. It reminded me of the XFL. Um, of course it's on the amount level and the, the spring league reminds me of like a mesh of the Alliance of American football and the XFL ma I mean maybe, probably because we have post coaches and players from both leagues. Um, but I am really impressed with the quality to play considering these guys had what, like two weeks to practice with each other, but barely that, I mean, and the thing is, I know like, um, I've seen a lot of people on like Twitter or just, you know, on Reddit and stuff like that. And they'd be like, Oh, this isn't the XFL. Like this is boring. This is not a good quality football. And I'm like, well, it's not like your spring league is necessarily trying to be great football. They know they're not going to be incredible. And as on the other hand with the XFL, they were trying to put out a really phenomenal football product. Meanwhile, the spring league seems to be like, we're gonna take these guys that are, might just have a messy career that we're going to take these guys that might not be the best athletes might not get looks from other people. We're going to give them a chance to be in a spotlight and we'll see what they do. I mean, it's probably going to be messy, but there might be some guys that make the place was all blues and avian or some big that punt return at the end of finishing him off. That was a really, really exciting play. And it was the guy he took advantage of his spotlight. I think it was a Saxon or something like that on the return and yeah. Yeah. Matthew sec, Stan walk out front where Jeremy, when did you know, I was trying to explain it to my wife and my, this would probably never happen in the NFL. Right. I mean, he, he dodged two tackles and made it run for it. But you know, in the heat of the moment, it's exciting to watch, you know, that you had, uh, uh, Sato, the field goal kicker right. Had missed two. And I want to talk to you about the, the, the struggles of kicking too with the spring league, but, you know, he had missed two field goals. Uh, they, you know, the announcers are talking, you know, it came from Japan to get taped and all this stuff ends up nailing. The third field goal takes the aviators to, uh, overtime, right. And then the, and then the blues, you know, three and hour the aviators take over, you know, punt return in, I mean, it just like, you couldn't write it any better for just like this, you know, Wednesday afternoon. And I'm just sitting on the couch watching this. Right. Uh, what do you win? Oh yeah. I thought that they go for it. Go ahead. I'm sorry. I'll let you go. Um, what was I, what I was going to say quick was just either the overall, the two games from yesterday, they were really exciting and honestly more exciting than some of the games that we saw in the Alliance and the XFL. Um, overall there was an easy amount of scoring. There was lots of offense and defense and again, yeah, it's going to be messy. It's going to be scrappy. We're going to see some guys just make some plays and you're like, why is he out there on the football field? But again, that's the reason why this spring league exists. They try to develop these guys that might have some raw talent that need to be polished up. So then they get a chance in the NFL, the XFL, the CFL or whatever. Um, I'll tell ya, Uh, Bethel Thompson, uh, QB with the aviators. Uh, I, I tweeted that he's got John Moxley vibe. Paul knows about John Moxley, uh, wrestler. I mean, he's talking to the cameras as we're going to break. He, I think he dropped an F bomb, but one of the cameras caught, you know, they ended up having to cut him, but, but you know, a funny guy walks through with the swagger delivered. I mean, the aviators, you know, in this thrilling and overtime, I just think, yeah, this is the kind of personality, right? Th th the fear with the XFL was always, well, how can you build a league? You know, we don't have big names. We got to get big names. We got to get all these people. That's somebody. I mean, I watched one game with him and I'm, I'm all in on him. Right. I think just as, not only as a, as a talent, but as a personality that you could build your ratings around, what'd you think about him? Oh, I thought it was great. First of all, he played a great game and some of the throws that he made, I mean, he was very confident in the pocket, um, that one touchdown to Hardaway, which is an absolute dime, that was just a perfect pass. Um, and definitely to have a guy that I could see playing in the XFL. I know he was in the CFL for awhile and get pretty well there. Um, maybe he'll go back to CFL. I don't know, but I'm really glad that it took the opportunity with the spring league. Um, just seeing guys like him play was great and yeah, the personality factors there's so much fun. It makes it more enjoyable to watch. He is the type of guy that I definitely would fit in with the XFL. Um, but yeah, that was pretty funny. And then, um, he just talking, yeah, he was talking to the live mic on national TV. Just like, look guys, this is football, it gets heated. I'm sorry. Like, but he's like, that's just what it is. Yeah. I mean, it just, as I said, I, you know, last week we had the generals and the conquers, that was the only game that was televised this week. We had to, I mean, I was, you know, it was halfway through the game and I, you know, I knew a lot of these players, I knew a lot of the personalities. I knew a lot of the stuff I thought the announcers, like I said, with, with Santo and the kicking, you know, being able to come back. I mean, this is just, I mean, this is really minuscule stakes. Right. But it's still, you're able to get invested in all of this. And I just think it speaks volumes for a lot of these guys move into the exit fella and hopefully, you know, a bigger and better. Oh yeah. Yeah. And I'm mostly managing with Fox. They've been doing a really good job broadcasting this as well. I think I love Fox broadcasting. I thought Fox was the best broadcaster, um, for the XFL, um, back through their games. And ESPN did good too, but Fox, I dunno. I love Brock. You are. I love the guy, other guys that are announcing they're there. They just have really great. Um, it's just fun. It's just fun watching Fox broadcast. Um, there's really no other way to put it. Um, but yeah, The kicking issues, uh, plugging in everybody, extra points, feel goals. I mean, it, it, I think it's just lack of reps. What do you think about that? Yeah. I mean, it's up and down and kicker the kickers and the ponders that are in this league. They, I mean, not only do they have a lot of pressure, but at the same time, they also, like, there's so much that goes into kicks that we really don't realize like, just everything just from the snapper to the holder, like, you need to build a lot of chemistry together to get everything down. Like it's not just the kicker. You have the long snapper, you have the holder involved, you have the people blogging and all of that is mentally messing with the kickers head. So when you doing this with people for just one, one and a half week, it makes it difficult to get into a MIMO at the NFL. Cause here's, of course they missed field goals and stuff too, but they're practicing with these guys for months and months and months and months. It's like, they're just on automatic. Meanwhile, you just got thrown into this league brand new holder, brand new snapper. You don't brand new. Yeah. You don't know any of these guys and you don't know what they're going to do. You don't know if you have confidence in them, do you make a good snap to make a good hold? Um, I mean, we've seen up and down kicking. I thought Matt mango has been playing phenomenal. Um, that guy killed that 53 yarder. Um, he's been the most impressive one for me so far. Oh, another impressive guy I want to talk about. And this relates back to our podcast, uh, uh, JT Barrett, uh, the alphas QB, they were talking, they were doing his rundown, uh, and they were saying that he actually split a playtime with Cardel Jones. And I can't remember which, uh, which practice squad it was. And I publicly apologized on Twitter for everybody that JT Barrett as a famously anti, uh, Sharman Jones podcast that IGT parent would ever have to split playing time ever with Cardel Jones. What did you think of JT Barrett? Oh, I thought I thought he would played a great game and I know, you know, he really struggled and we've won. We didn't really get to see, obviously we didn't get to see much of that because it wasn't televised, which also is another thing like just come on, streaming on YouTube. Um, but anyways, uh, he really bounced back this week and I show, I think he showed that he can be a leader. He is, he moves into pockets. So well, he's got a great juice pocket presence and awareness. And in some of the throws he made were absolutely phenomenal. I know he threw 200 sections towards the end of that game, but one of them was definitely not his fault. The receiver fell down. The other one was just a poor decision and trying to force it into the end zone. He didn't like to throw, but overall, a couple of throws to bug Howard, um, who also, he played a phenomenal game and just overall his great name bug. But, but yeah, overall they just, I think J D bar put together some great film last night and, uh, he should be proud of what he did. I think all except for Macmillan. I think all of the QBs should be incredibly proud. I know Paul and I are going to get into this more in the podcast. You know, Cowboys have been struggling with, you know, QBs. We we've got, you know, they're talking about having a F guy, uh, Garrett, you know, and do that. What do you think about that? Well, we have you, what do you think about Garrett? Uh, playing for the Cowboys? Oh, I hope he gets to start. I'd love to see him get back in. I love seeing him in the Alliance. Um, he's just as a great quarterback. I think he's got a lot of talent and I think he's been overlooked. Um, and I think he's been overlooked after the Alliance look what he did there. I mean, he just ripped through every single defense weekend and week out, there were seven in one, they would have easily won the championship. I mean, unless somehow some way there were some diva. I don't, I don't see how any defense could really stop that offense between Gilbert and Charles Johnson and those guys, they were phenomenal. So I hope he does well in Dallas. I wish him the best and I hope he gets to start. Yeah. I mean, I just, after watching DeNucci last week, I can't think of anyone that was playing in any of the games yesterday. They could do a worst job about that. Paul's got his own thoughts about to need you to Yeah. And you know, he's just very green. Um, I don't know. I know that he had a great, yeah, he bent the ball on one. I saw the past where he, where he was bending the ball. And I know he's an, uh, uh, what was a James Madison university? The, uh, James Madison has been a perennial them in North Dakota state and, uh, one AA baller FCS as they call it. Now they've been perennial like powerhouses there. So maybe there's something to the kid. I just think he needs a lot more work. Uh, James, we're looking, uh, before we let you go look into next week, uh, we've got, uh, finally our job posters are going to be taken on the alphas. I'm a little scary about that on Tuesday. Uh, and then we have the blues and the generals on Wednesday. What are you looking at? What are you hoping to see? Whether you, I know you're going to be a fall when everything for the newsroom, uh, what, what, what do you want to see? Well, I'll just hold that. We continue to see what we've been seeing pretty much through the first couple of weeks. I mean, again, the three televised games that we've seen so far have been great on. They've been exciting, they've been close and hopefully they can keep up that style of play. I'm especially looking forward to, um, the blues and the blues in generals I think are playing, right? Yeah. It's the, it's the, uh, the blues and the generals and then the, uh, the alphas, the gestures on Tuesday. So we've got Tuesday five, five Pacific, uh, prime time. And then, uh, the blues and generals on Wednesday. Yeah. Blues and generals, I think, is going to be a great game. It's going to be, cause we've got like three or four teams that are really good between the blues, the aviators, um, the Alvarez we're getting better. And I'd say even the is looked pretty good, but then you've got, the jealousy has just really are a mess. I mean, at least from what we could tell from week one, um, um, um, I'm sorry, Paul, I'm sorry. And let's see, I was going to root for the jealousness, but once I found out Quintin flowers was not going to be there, I was just like, yeah, I'm not even really rooting for any teams. I just deal with these sorts of leaks. Like, I'm just more like, I'm just going to root for everybody. I want all these guys who do as good as they can possibly do, because like just rooting for every one of them. So yeah, I think we got Delta a bad hand with Quentin flowers. I think it would have been a totally different game if we had gotten them on there. One thing too, before I let you go, uh, you know, the conquers, you have Jared Cardinal, uh, or, uh, Jerry Grandville, sorry. And, uh, you have him coaching, right? We have, they've got the conquers have had both primetime games, you know, Josh Davis, a friend of the show he's rooting for the conquers. He's covering them. Uh, they're Owen too. I mean, they, they can't, you know, we've got fights on the sidelines. I mean, what's the deal. I feel like, I feel like the spring league really thought that they were going to be a powerhouse team, right. Either we got them with the big coach, we got Jean Jones doing some stuff with them and everything. I mean, what's the deal with, with the Conkers? I mean, I mean, I watched both games, um, that they Congress, I played and I think it's just a matter of execution and touch at the end of games. Um, they put themselves in positions to win both of those games and they just fell apart. Um, I think the first game, again, especially against the generals that one was missing and they still almost came back. I mean, you had Yarberry wakes them ridiculously athletic place. Um, but I don't like, I know that this league is about giving everybody opportunities, but Kevin Anderson is a way better quarterback, thin McMillan. And I don't know why the heck they keep putting in McMillan because every time they do, they stall out and then they lose the game. I mean, I started the game down 16, nothing because of a billing, they come back and then they put me, reel him back in and he lost the game for the McKenzie, the generals. Then last night, same thing they're beating the Alpha's 14, six McMillan goes in. And next thing you know, the alphas are up by two by five points or something like that. So I don't understand. And Anderson, I mean, some of those passes that he threw were really phenomenal. He dropped a couple of times in the bucket. Um, but yeah, I'm surprised the conquers or Owens you, when you consider all the XFL talent, they have, you got Nick Holly, you've got Dan Williams, you've got all these different guys. You've got all the XFL coaches between Glanville and, um, I think June Jones left, um, the spring league, but he was there last week and I know Kevin Gilbride is coming in. I don't know if he came in yet. I know, I know. I remember the announcers were like, Oh yeah, we see Kevin Gilbride and they just showed Jerry Glanville is I got, but I guess he's not there yet. Yeah. Yeah. I think, uh, Anderson way better. I mean, I get that. It's the pay to play and that you want to give everybody equal reps and that's what Josh Davis, I mean, he'll preach about it. I've been tweeting. You got, you know, they're paying, you got to give the reps, but you know, they, they stall it out a lot now the conquerors and they just haven't been doing good with McMillan. Yeah. They, no, they have not. I mean maybe involving Millen and like just a play here and there, like a trick play, but like he's not, he's not starting QB material. I mean, he's playing horrible in the spring league, which has a lot of guys that are not very experienced. So I think that kind of says something about him. Uh, I, I don't see him ever getting a chance to start a football team, XFL, NFL, whatever that was he just not playing. Well, maybe it'll change. Maybe he'll surprise me over the next two weeks, but Kevin Anderson, Anderson's playing a lot better. Thank you so much again for coming on and talking this, I appreciate you reaching out. I will just say guys and clean. I mean, I know people are going to be listening to this and I've been tweeting a lot at TSL guys. I mean, we got to clean this up. I mean, this is not a good look. I think for a lot of this stuff at the beginning, and I said, you know what, the spitting and the penalties and stuff, I mean, you're on a national platform and you're looking to, to get, you know, in your it's your future here, and you got to figure this stuff out, and this is not a good luck. And that the fact that the biggest thing we had about the primetime game last night was this fight with Macmillan and the, and the coach is a, is really not a good book. Not at all I need. Yeah. It's kind of crazy. Cause there were a couple of really big players. Like last night they got kinda overlooked because of the whole McMillan fight. Yeah. Well James, thank you so much again. Uh, do you want to plug anything before we let you? Um, I mean, I, uh, I wrote for the XFL newsroom, I also write for the brawl network. Um, and I've just been following the TSL, the, uh, the XFL of course. So if you guys want to go give me a follow on Twitter at James Larson EMI, that's where you can see all my stuff and hear my opinions about these sorts of things that we just talked about. So yeah, that's pretty much it. Thank you guys for having me on it was a lot of fun and uh, looking forward to listening to this episode. Awesome. Thanks man. You killed it. Have a good one. Good luck with everything The tattoo. Thank you. Awesome. You guys have a great rest of your day. Did it begin week a week three for three, we're going to have a note edit. So we're going to drop that episode or the interview in with James. I thought he was great. He messaged me. He said, thanks so much for having on, uh, he says, Oh, he he's messaging me. He goes, ah, he should have worn his XFL Markcast mask on the podcast, but that probably would have been a little difficult to do the interview or borderline, but James has left this review for the Markcast. We appreciate that XFL show.com/review, but thanks James, for talking to the spring league. And uh, you know, if you're, if you're a fan of the league, uh, you know, reach out to us, we're always loving to get, uh, you know, more insights and info that way. I know they kind of have a weird Josh Davis said that they kind of have a weird KIBO, Gosh, that a lot of the players with the spring league right now, aren't able to, Uh, they can't like do in the audio interviews. They can only do like text interviews, which obviously doesn't work for podcasts, but it's very weird. I'm like, don't you want the spring league? I know we're kind of done with the spring league set, but I am just going to go on the one quick rant about this. They're the weirdest thing in the world. I tweet them all the time. Everyone's blowing them up. They're so like unresponsive to the people that support them. And it's very weird to me that like, we have a lot of writers, a lot of podcasts covering the spring league, you know, tweeting at them, blowing them up, hyping them up, watching the games. And there's no like, I mean the dragons follow me. Like I had people follow me. I mean, not a lot. I'm not like a big, you know, like a big name. I'm like you couldn't like, like one of my tweets, the spring league, you got like 13,000 followers. Give me a break. The spring league puts the merge on the site, get some money. I mean, but anyway, the point is that I guess they've told the players, like they can't do any audio right now, which seems very odd to me, but I get it Nice. Didn't I see you like a video clip of Gosh, had I had one of the coaches on for just a hot second and audio and I guess that was because Josh was a friend. If he has Derrius bell with the, with the alphas. And, but yeah, they really have a KIBO. It's just a weird, it's a weird vibe. I've talked with Josh about it. It's a weird vibe without Lee. And I just think like, you don't get that many mentions. You probably have 10 bajillion for me. Like let's, you know, let's, let's show some love. I've emailed them. Come on the podcast, talk about the podcast. Let's get players to stop spitting at each other and punching on the football field. You know, let's chat. You were really on a soapbox about this penalty thing, but rightfully so, he's been on other player. I'm not saying you're wrong for this at all. I'm not saying you're wrong for this at all. It's just it, you know, they need all the publicity they can get. And maybe with more publicity and more ratings and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, maybe they'll stop charging the players to come out and play The saying, I will say on the podcast. And I told Dorothy this, if they do announce a championship game, it's TBD right now. Um, they've got four weeks at the Alamodome that's in question week four might be moved because of, uh, some other events. Uh, if they announced a championship game, I'm going, I'm just saying it right now. I've already tweeted it. I'm going. I'm going to do we'll do the Markcast live from the Alamo dome or whatever. I already told Dorothy, like we're down. We're going to, I wish I could go with you, but I got, I got work and you know, little personal note, they just, they told me today, they totaled my car. I, I, you know, it's just, I didn't get an accident. Someone stole my bumper long story short. They totaled my car. So now I've got to worry about buying a new car. No, I know. I'm sorry, but we're going to, I'm going to go down there. I'm going to hype us up. We're going to get some podcasts plays and we're going to, we're going to pay off your new bumper. So that'd be good. Pay off my new bumper. I just to get a new car. Now, the car We'll get a separate down. Uh, what do we think about, uh, we talked a little bit with James about this, about the Cowboys, about Garrett Gilbert, potentially coming in. He used to be on one of the AAF teams coming in and taking bend in Yuchi, which just, that was the most brutal game on, uh, on Sunday with the calibration. They couldn't flex that thing out. They flexed look, look, they flexed in the Cardinals and Seahawks. They flex that game in and put that in that spot. They couldn't get this game out. No one wanted to watch this game and no one wanted to watch this game. No, I was like, what are you talking about? Flexed out. Yes, I get what you're saying. Yeah. They flexed out, uh, flexed in the Cardinals and Seahawks. And that ended up being a great idea, but left the Eagles and Cowboys, I assume. Cause I still think America's team is the Dallas Cowboys. Um, Jerry, just call Colin man, Dude. That was brutal. DeNucci was terrible. That was so I'm watching this. This is true. So it was like earlier in the, earlier in the game, like halftime or whatever it was called, I think it was like nine, nine or whatever the score was. And I had seen online cause like friends, you know, Josh Davis and Anthony, we've got friends in the show that they're all Eagles fans. And then, you know, Jay is obviously a Cowboys fan. So a lot of the writers I'm following, they're all watching the game. Just how terrible it is. Like this is the worst thing ever. The civet Dorothy walks down. She goes, Oh wow, this is a great canvas. It's called a score. I mean, you know, it's fine. It's fine during the but so I tweeted that and I got quite the riot. I go, yeah, my wife just walked out. She goes, that was the coolest game. Unless we speak during This dark skin. But Dorothy Loves football. I'm just saying she's all in. We watched the spring league last night. She's all in. Dorothy loves football, love the Eagles Cowboys. Uh, and she wanted, I think she wanted the Cowboys to win. Cause they're under docs cause they've lost all their quarterbacks. So Garrett, Gilbert and Cooper rush, apparently are the two guys that are being mentioned again. Jerry, just call Colin Kaepernick. Just do it. Just do it like Nike, just do it. I just don't get what, what, you're what you got to lose here. I mean, Yeah. You can win that division with Colin Kaepernick. You can win that division. What are we doing? What is Jerry doing? I don't know. You could win that division with Bethel Thompson from the, yeah. You could win that division with Reed Johnson. Let's be honest. The new G I got the, I got the, it's just a weird, it's just like, you know, like you hear some quarterback like Russell Wilson. That's a quarterback name, right? Colin Kaepernick. That Ben DiNucci is not a quarterback name. I'm sorry. You just kinda know like Andy Dalton, not a quarterback name. I even know that. Not at all. No. So's also former former alternate football alternative football league. Do you want to start calling alternative football league players in the NFL? Sergio Castillo made a second consecutive start for the jets. The jets that are very crappy as well. Uh, they are, they are gunning for number one, pick in the upcoming NFL draft, guaranteed. They're trying at least to do that. I've got a prediction now. Yeah. The jets are going to beat the Patriots this week. Wow. That would be huge. Do you know why the jets are going to beat the Patriots this week? Because that's because bill Belichick is an evil genius and you know what bill bell check's going to do slowly but surely as no one pays attention. The Patriots are going to tank the season and get the number one pick in the draft and take Trevor Lawrence from Clemson. That's what's going to happen. Well, well let's let's time code this. And then we'll, we'll uh, we'll post this with our, when um, Jordan TAMU, uh, takes the lions to victory. And then when the, with bill Belicheck at the end of the season, we'll we'll circle back. So let's talk about, let's talk about the yards he had. He had a 55 yard field goal Castillo, one, one of the only bright spots for the jets. This season has been Castillo. And of course his final kick was blocked. That's fine. It was blocked. You can't really, you can't really fault that a hundred percent on the kicker when those field goes block and lessee, the trajectory. I, I didn't kick too much in school. I punted when I was in high school, I didn't, I wasn't a play seeker, but I know that, you know, trajectory, might've been a factor here who knows, but he hit a 55 yard. That's saying something. Well, he was the only points that they had. I mean, they were the only points they had. We watched half the game we went to, uh, cause I was watching, um, Oh, I was watching the Rams and then we went to brunch and they had on the jet. So I was like, Oh great. Like, I'm so glad we have this game on right now. Cheese smoke, this smoke the jets. But yeah, no, he, he played good. I was tweeting it out. Eric Castillo. He was Sergio Castillo. He was doing good. Erica CEO. Sorry, that's my drone guy. I was like, why do I have that name on my head? Eric Castillo flies drone for me, Sergio Castillo. Sorry. Third joke is you. And uh, that's, that's great for him. That's I'm glad that jets have some kind of positive, positive something, not something I I'm, I'm grasping at straws to really describe the jets year this year. And I have a lot of friends who are jets fans that, you know, they've heard the podcast from time to time. I, I, you know, I don't know what to say. It's Bad. It's bad. I don't yeah. Watch a lot of the jets, but watch a memo on that because I sit there, they'd be like, Oh, okay. They got the pass. They're getting, Oh no, that's it. And they would come. I mean, it's just like, it's just three and out three and a half three. And that's just crazy, you know? So thank God they got, I tell you XFL guys between, uh, uh, you got Donald parm and then you got surgery Castillo. I mean, we're, we're doing all right. Let's get taboo in there and let's do a takeover. Let's take over the XFL, taken over the NFL, showing that these guys can actually play except for Sharman Johns. Uh, and then did you see this Hunter and this wander? Uh, I probably didn't pronounce that. Right. Uh, yeah. Speaking of Sharman Jones, he was a DC defender and he's going to be, uh, uh, uh, playing for Dallas. So maybe that I did see that and um, good luck to him. I know that punting is a very, it's a very hard thing to do. Um, I, I do hope that, you know, this is maybe this is another bright spot for the Dallas Cowboys. It's hard watching some of these NFL teams Labour through this season. Of course we talked about it with Jay. Um, there's a situation where we didn't have a season, so it's like, it's almost like some of these teams are piece mailing, you know, their teams together. And I, you know, I know what to do. I don't know what to say about this. Well, yeah, Mark, with the News Hub, he seems high on them. He posted talking about how a, I guess they're starting punter is going to undergo to go undergo surgery for a muscle. And so I don't know if he's going to be available, he's recovering. And so they're going to promote him up from the practice squad and he's going to be playing against the Steelers. Who do you take with the Cowboys versus the steel Take the Steelers. I mean, clearly, I mean, look, we're talking, you know, we're talking about the Steelers and uh, and it comes up to where you have to think about what they did at the trade deadline, specifically, Avery Williamson, what a lucky man, that guy is. He went from the Oh and eight jets to the seven and O Steelers. How lucky, how lucky are you to go from the worst team in the NFL to the best team in the NFL? I saw that photo. He posted like him hailing a cab or a hitchhiking or whatever on his Instagram. Yeah, That was, that was good play. Also our Seahawks getting Carlos Dunlap before the trade deadline expired, uh, the all-time leader of, I think he's the all time leader of Sachs or tackles from Cincinnati is now CLC Hawk, because Khalil Mack wasn't going anywhere. And um, maybe, maybe just, maybe this will help show up at the defense firm. I mean, I think if the, if Seattle had a better defense, they'd still be undefeated right now. They would still be undefeated right now because they've been able to stop the Cardinals. So, uh, Carlos stone, that Dunlap coming in also, you got Jamal Adams coming back from the Seahawks very soon. Uh, they're going to shore that thing up. And um, Do you see, I think it was Bobby Wagner tweeted and he was like, I do what the coach tells me to do. If a coach tells me blitz and tack the quarterback, I'm going to do it. And so then he's like, they told me to do it last week and I did it. And I'm like, why don't you do that every week? Like what is happening? Well, I'm like, that's all the time. Sometimes you can't blitz a quarterback because you have to be in, you have to be in a protection to cover a running back. Who's going out on a pass. You know, sometimes there's a, there's a, there's an HB wheel. There's a, there's an HB, you know, and around it comes around. Halfback needs to be open for a bat. Running back needs to be up for a pass. And Bobby Wagner might need to cover him in pass coverage. So that's why you can't just let your linebacker every time. Otherwise you'd put more people, the box you'd run with a two tied in set and have one tight end, you know, focus on Bobby Wagner. You can't always blitz Bobby Wagner despite the fact that he is a mad and overall 99 player, you can't always lets Bobby Wagner. I just Googled him. Cause I was trying to find that tweet. The first question people people ask is Bobby Wagner, a hall of Famer, not in the hall of fame. Well clearly thank you Google for that one. He might be well, yeah, not right now. Right now. Right now. No one can say that right now, but um, you know, Bobby Wagner, Utah state university also has an intense, intense collection of Ninja turtles. True story. He's obsessed with the turtles. Y'all have You always think that these celebrities are going to be better than us, and then you find out that they got email, like you got your MBA jam. I mean, we all got, I got the Dre, I love my NBA jam and that's, I mean, we all have our stuff Bobby wearing your has his a Ninja turtles. That's good. So anyway, who's your favorite Ninja turtle? Raphael of course the smarmy snarky. Who else would it be, man? Who else would it be? Yeah, He had the sites, right? Yeah. The size. Yeah. Yeah. Michelangelo is definitely the worst. Right. Can we agree with that? I think so. I definitely, so, um, XFL, bankruptcy case update, not too much on that front. Uh, tell us what's going on with that. Uh, of course are there we go, Josh Davis, uh, that he's covering all this stuff. A, he is kind of a genius when it comes to covering all this stuff. He says the alpha entertainment, uh, they got a 1.5 million from Miami air. The league had a charter contract with them and the money was put into an escrow account because of COVID they never happened, you know, those flights and stuff. So a lot of this kind of cleaning up some of the stuff, but we're still waiting. I mean, there was another article on news hub about, uh, you know, all of our lock had been sick man and you know, him paying for the lawsuit and all that. And so someone's coming Vincent, you know, offers coming for his money. So I'll be curious to see when that all kind of unfolds here. It's gotta be soon, right. Tax season's coming right. End of the year. Right. Don't you think They probably want to sell this thing up for the end of the year? That's what man can write it off as a, as a big Al or maybe eventually Manny wants to extend it so he can get, you know, he can get two years of claiming these, these losses on his personal tax, who knows, who knows what's happening. Yeah. Vince is a smart guy, but I just, I don't know about this one. I think there was a lot of, uh, questions. So speaking of the stuff that I know about know about what is this, what is this video you posted from Facebook in here? Oh, This has okay. Well, I was going to ask you this first. Um, I don't think we can play the audio cause it's got the game of Thrones theme song. Do you think we'll get flagged for that on YouTube? Okay. So van, the man are currently number one fan fighting with Jack Stevens for, uh, for the number one position pose to me this and it's like a, uh, it's like, uh, a neti pot. It's not, it's like a, lets the steam out of like, Well, it's, it's like an attachment for your Instapot, but it's a dragon head. Yeah. I'm going to do this so I can find this in the video. And then I'm going to add the video here. All we talk about it, but it's like, it's the game of Thrones music. And it's like, and then like the steam goes deck and was like, it cuts back and forth. Like someone put a lot of time into like editing this clip. But van personally texted me, this asked me if I needed a dragon for the kitchen. And then he also posted this in like a bunch Of Facebook. Have it in spot? No, But I'm a dragon. I'm a dragons fan. So maybe I would get Instapot so I could get a dragon head. A life-changer man. Yeah. Yeah. I didn't think I would say I to, you know, have 20 year old met me right now and said, you're talking about InstaPot's on a podcast 20 year old would slap 40 year old Paul. And uh, and, and wonder why he's talking about his spots. I think it was a life-changer man. That thing was a game changer. Uh, got Nydia one. Uh, we got like, they had to sell like two, two for the, you got half one off. So basically one year for our birthday coming up soon. Now you're on it. Uh, we got, I got her one also. So we both have matching InstaPot's how sweet is that? Oh, that's remarkable Paul. That You're going to bring that up, But you should think about getting the dragons thing. Think about getting The drink. Why would I get the dragon Stuff? But so does it release steam? I mean, what is it Like? So there's two different ways. I can't believe we're talking about this In the podcast. This is the die-hards right now. Yeah. There's two different ways too. They say, when you, when you have your recipe for InstaPot's instant, instant pot, instant pot, uh, there's two different ways that they want you to release the steam depending on the rest of the recipe, there's a natural release. And then there's this quick release and this looks like it's a quick release function to where the thing with like pressure cooking that always freaks me out is like, I don't want to point the steam in my face and have it burn me. Cause steam burn is a lot worse than scalding hot water burn. Right? So this thing looks like it like avoids having that hot spray anywhere near. So the thing that that steam would ruin, so this looks like a cool little attachment. Um, I don't think I would buy it based on, I don't think game of Thrones is that great. Um, but yeah, I Is coming up. Maybe you want this for your birthday. Maybe if there's a fan out there that wants to IDM me. If you want to give Paul a birthday gift and we'll get them, uh we'll we'll do a go fund me. Well, it'd be, it can't be more than like 12 bucks, right? I mean, what is this? But it'll take probably like, this looks like it's one of those videos that comes out of China. It's like F C F w is it F G F key? I had to close that. I had to close the link. Cause I think van was DME on Facebook or something. And it was, it was making noises Realize that we are currently recording XFL. So We'll, we'll, we'll I'll have the video up here, but yeah, we can't have the music. We just imagined like, duh, duh, duh, there that's a lot. What else did you want to talk about? Uh, that was, that was all my news. They, uh, they did say, I, I thought you would appreciate it. They call it the, on the TSL game. When the guy, um, punched the guy, it was like the second play of the game. Second, third, play the game. He punches the other guy and they said, this is not Friday night SmackDown. This is the spring Lake. I thought that was cool. That, that was cool. My tie they're very clever tie. You know, Debbie that'd be, he needs some needs, some ratings, maybe the, maybe the Spring League you can get the WWE, some ratings Maybe, possibly. I don't know. I don't know. I think, I think the WTB right now with that Roman storyline is doing pretty good. Everybody's everybody's I know you, you, you don't like Roman Jay in the best now I saw promo is in the best. I didn't, I didn't see the promo recently, but maybe, I don't know, because as you know, like if you're, if you're into wrestling history, like I definitely am. Um, Paul Paul Heyman used to manage a team called the Samoan squats, Samoan SWAT team. And maybe that's what they're trying to redo here. It's it's, it's probably the most compelling story in WWE, but Hey, maybe they'll call that quarterback and he can throw around some punches and take some bumps who knows? Yeah. Uh, yeah, that would be, it was just the funniest thing in the spring. Like, like they pull them and then they're like, well, but wait, there's actually like a practice, uh, league. And we don't actually have enough players just to like put it back in the game. They did. Cause at the end of the game, I'm like, why is he back in the game? And the announcer's like, in case you were wondering that he's back in the game, so we didn't have enough players to play the game. Incredible. Yeah. So with that being said, we want to thank you for listening to the XFL Markcast, uh, again, xfl.com XFL show.com/merch to get your merchandise and also xflshow.com/review to give us a review. And once you give us a review, send, Reid a direct message, let them know, we'll send you a mask, five reviews per week. We'll get a mask. So yeah, we'd love to send you out a mask, keep you safe during this pandemic, James Larson, coming on, talking to the spring league. Really appreciate that and that we'll have him on again. A great, great insights. And I really appreciate that. So thanks again. Thanks for listening. See you next week.

XFL Markcast Episode 12 - Can We PLEASE Get Reid a Jousters Jersey? (ft. Jai Nokes)

Are we starting right now? Let's let's just go. Dude we. Jam packed show today. And I don't think we need all this, this content. We don't need all of this read. We got a lot of the content. Mark. When Mark from news tab love you to death. When he drops a 13 minute episode this week, I'll tell you people, if you want XFL stuff, if you want random shenanigans, Paul's got stories today. This is a jam pack. This is the place to go. I want people to know XFL, ramblings and thoughts. We're here at the Mart cast. No edits. Let's go. Yeah, we're going for, Paul's got a busy day. I really do appreciate making the time on Thursday, we got, jai is going to join us in the show and I do really appreciate that. Uh, that we could schedule that and have him come on to talk about the spring Lake. So thank you, Paul. We normally record on Wednesdays, but this week it's Thursday. So, uh, this, this, this episode's gonna be really fresh out of the oven because as soon as it's done, as soon as I'm done, we're done recording it. I'm going to produce it out. Get it uploaded. So you'll be good to go before. Uh, all my other stuff happens today. I've got. Mass hysteria going on new bed. Coming in all bed going out, it's just nuts and I'm waving my hands around and I don't know why that's okay. And then I got my audio figured out going through the zoom. So I think, I think we're just firing on all cylinders should be. I feel good about it. Yeah. It might now called petty Paul over here on this podcast too, for my Jim Thomas story. Is that what we're doing? Well, I was like, cause I do, I do get confused because Paul Williams, our other, my other, you know, our other friend that's Paul, his party Paul. And so I was like, I think it's petty Paul. And then when I share that and then I said, yes, that's why they call him. So. We didn't get any feedback from Jim Thomas on now. And I shared our big feud with Jim. Thomas has really surprised you that didn't get more attraction on our feud or is it my view? And it's not a really a few that you were. You were a jerk to me once Jim and that was, and I, you know, I blocked him after it happened. I like, I think. If I'm honest, I might be mistaken, but I think there was a little bit of interaction after the incident happened. And I just blocked him. So I'm not going to see anything if he responds and I really don't care. Positive today. We're going to be positive. So I want to start first off. Uh, well, okay. Positive. But, uh, I, I might be positive. We might have a podcast feud, Paul and I wanted to ask you about this. You know, I took our team. The jouster. Posters in the spring league. I didn't ask your opinion on that. That's the one thing I will ask your opinion on this. There's been no shots fired. Do we have a podcast view with the attitude era podcast over who is ranking higher in the Apple podcast feeds on XFL searches? Well, I think that you care more about this than I do, and that's fine. Um, that's not on that's. That's not a knock on you. It's it's it's your focal point is to drive up the reviews. To get us to the highest ranking Basel. I know that there is a show above us that is, uh, you know, basically. Really ingratiated with the ownership of the XFL when they're probably never going to top those guys, that's fine. But. Um, if you do. Uh, if you do an XFL episode one or once or twice in your wrestling podcasts, should you rank above a XFL podcast? That's. XFL heavy. I don't think that's the case. So it's certainly a feud. It's just common sense basically. Well, that, and that's the thing is it's just so some context, if you, yeah, if you search exit fell on Apple podcast, you get a extra, it fell a show and then you get Mark's podcast so we can review, and then you get this attitude, era podcasts, and I'm sure there are wonderful. I like wrestling podcasts. We love the attitude era. Paul Paula knows all about the attitude there. But, um, yeah. They literally did. I got bonus episode four and a half years ago when Vince was talking about like the XFL and all this stuff. And because of that, I think when you search exit fee, because they have so much other staff or wrestling, they read keyer. So, uh, the way that we're going to combat this is if you like the show, if you're a, if you're passionate about the exit valve, you want XFL podcasts. Uh, to rank higher where they need to be a, you can leave us a review at XFL show.com/review. Uh, remember you get a free XFL mask. Uh, we shipped them out this week and we have some new reviews. I was going to read them on the podcast here too, if that's okay. Yeah, go for it. Uh, so we have Adams advising and they work with a lot of college athletes in high school athletes. And they've been really, really supportive on the podcast. They, they followed us in and they retweet it and we got, we got a lot of new followers coming on because of that. Uh, he says the XFL is back. Just found out about this podcast, but it's great. Love being able to stay in touch with the XFL. And this is by far the best XFL podcast for that not be added to their podcasts, the XFL podcast. Um, We, we have a review from, but dunks. He says, if you don't like this podcast, you're wrong. So there you go. If you don't like this podcast, you're wrong. And then we have one from, I love the XFL. I think this is our fan Jack Stevens. Uh, he says, this is a great podcast to listen to it. And I'm going to tell you, Paul. We have van the man, our number one fan, but van is in a very serious contention of losing his number one fan ship to Jack Stephens, Jack Stevens out ordered some stickers this week. They're on the way he reviewed the podcast. He even recommended. He asked me on Facebook. If we had that book cameo count. If we had our own book cameo count, you know, I love the book cameos and he thought maybe we should start one. What do you think. Can we do that when we're doing it remotely? Is that a possibility? I think we just do this. I think we just get on zoom and record one. Cause I, it just like every time I see them, it seems like they're framed up in a certain way where the cameo logo, you can't really crop it out. If you wanted to put it on Instagram. So, um, and little, little trade secret. When I did my crowdfunding campaign for a. Last days of Dixie, my documentary film, I totally use cameo. And that's how I got the guy from, uh, Friday tiny. Tiny tiny Lister on. So they kind of frame it in a way where the cameo logos, like you can eat better. Yeah, it's just it's. I mean, we can look into it. We could definitely look into it. I mean, I don't know how would we charge 10 bucks? We're not popular yet. I might, well, I mean, if Cardell Jones is pulling in 45 Sharman Jones, I think we could pull in, but, uh, You know, I think you're assuming maybe people would just on canvas from you. You're assuming that they would want both of us maybe, you know, maybe they would just say, Hey, I want Paul or, Hey, I want read. I mean, maybe they don't want. Maybe Jack just wants a Paul cameo. Maybe they do, but he just wants to read cameo. Anyway, Jack, thank you for listening. Thank you guys, everybody for leaving the reviews. I really do appreciate it. Remember, uh, uh, XFL show.com/review. You get a free mask. Uh, James Lars and got his this week. Uh, our boy moose got his, we shared photos. That you know, they're posting them all over the place. So we really, really appreciate the reviews. If you liked the XFL staff, if you're passionate about the league, like we are leaving this review XFL show.com/reveal. It's my pleasure. Awesome. Thank you. All right. The big news. Uh, that I think we should talk about first and foremost was a Jordan taboo beating cup, but from the chiefs. Yes. Crazy. Um, so basically, uh, And I don't know either. This is a situation where players are cut all the time, but kind of kept in the loop, so to speak. Where, um, for example, uh, it's it's. It's it's hard to, to know which Griffin brother is, which. The Griffin brother that, uh, has the, has, has no hand, he was actually cut from the Seahawks, then brought back. So a lot of these players get cut and then get brought back. But of course, Jordan, Tammy will also did test positive for COVID. And, um, Maybe that had something to do with why he was released. Right. Yeah. I, I flipped her about 18 different tabs. Find the right one. Yeah, no, I, and, and talking about the Griffin brothers, we actually did, um, I had a family that they won, uh, that, that kid suffers from some of the same disability, not disability. The same. Health issues. And he actually got to meet him and we filmed the whole thing and we went to see hot camp and, uh, Russell Wilson walked by and was like, Hey, get the camera off me. And we were trying to interview, uh, Shakim Griffin and his brother. So. Yeah. Is he big time? I was like, cause I had, you know, I had lights and camera. I got everything pointed in this corner. And then Russell Wilson walks by like on the other side of the room and was like, Hey man. Am I doing. Yeah, it was really, it was kind of weird. It was kind of weird. Russell. Come on, man. Yeah, I've got an autographed helmet from you. Simmer down. Ross Ross, maybe he was hungry. Rest wasn't cooking yet. Maybe, maybe we were getting ready to live. [unknown] um, but no. Yeah, I think Tommy was sick. He missed the time. Uh, it's crazy. I mean, I guess it's good for the XFL for him coming back, but, um, yeah, I mean, he could be plugged into anywhere. Like we were going to have jai talking about the Cowboys on. I don't know when you have people like this, they have skill why we are leaving these like Andy Dalton's other world, but not, not that he doesn't have scale, but you know, why aren't we not trying something else? Right. One of my best friends is a Cowboys fan. And one of my coworkers that's my friend is a Cowboys fan and we were discussing, we were actually discussing Andy Dalton last night. And she's like, he's so trash. So terrible. And, uh, I mean, you know, he did, he did some things in Cincinnati. Well, but he's the kind of player that had that burst for about two or three years. Uh, like, like, uh, and I'm gonna say it cause I really does. Doug. Doug Dylan are our friend, Doug Dylan, and I have been going back and forth on Facebook about the argument between Madison Bumgarner and Clayton Kershaw. And I stick to my guns. That Clayton is the better. Pitcher all around. I mean, Madison. Madison's got what? Two rings. Clayton has one, but. And Kirsha has way better numbers. Um, Madison had a burst. And I think any adults, the same way where it's a burst, where it was like four or five years. Great. And then his peak happen and he was just, he was in the gut of a mirror. So Andy don't should never be a starting quarterback. And it's unfortunate what happened to Dak Prescott, but, uh, Yeah, maybe that maybe, you know, that maybe that's a landing spot for Jordan, Tammy. Of course I'm sticking to my Colin Kaepernick thing. I'm going to stick to that until I die, probably. Well, it's just, I just think there's a. If it's not working and some of these teams and you know, this year it's been, like I said, I'm just following it a lot more than I have in the past. And I'm like, yeah. I mean, if things aren't working and if you have someone that's ready to go and there's mobile and is young and this fast and. Um, you know, is so young and they even talked about that back when he was on the battle, Hawks that for being so young, he just commanded that team. It kind of like a Pat Mahoney is right. You've got this younger guy. Um, you know, and I don't know really what the dynamics are like that if I was like a big, you know, 300 pound linebacker that was, you know, mid thirties and listening to, I don't know. Right. But these guys command respect, and I think Tammy was great. And I think that he, uh, she'd have a place. And I think it's crazy that he got cut. I saw Mike Mitchell posted that and I was just like, no, like at the end of star Wars with Darth Vader, That the, the bad one before the new hope I returned revenge of the Sith when he was like, no, when he became Darth Vader. That was not out. Pad may have died. Yeah. Yeah. Aye. I think the chief's only have two quarterbacks on the roster now. Um, so yeah, I'm old. Let's see. Yeah, a lot. A lot of faith. I mean, Patrick moms is, you know, is great, but I just think, yeah, it's crazy that you don't have find a place for some of these guys and that he's just sitting on the sidelines now, I guess somewhere. And I don't think like, I don't wish this on Patrick where homes at all. I mean, but if he dead did happen to get injured, Uh, their backup, I think, is, is it more it's Henny? Henny is not. And he's not a quarterback that can, that team has loaded. Lavonne bell is their backup. Running back. That team was loaded. But I don't think Chad Henne is the guy to, to lead that team anywhere. So, um, the offense would fit taboo coming back. If that were a possibility, God forbid. Cause we don't want to think I have to Patrick for homes. I think he's a stellar kid. Amazing player. Uh, sounds like Kermit the frog, but anyway, Amazing. Amazing high gold Kermit the frog here anyway. Moving on. Moving on. He's in those state farm commercials, him and Aaron Rodgers. And then there's like, Hey, thanks for giving me the Patrick, my home's discount. And they're like, there is no Patrick Williams discount. We're just, uh, they're funny. I don't know. It's funny seeing these NFL guys trying to like act in these commercials. Keeping it moving on. Speaking of COVID, apparently the Panthers have released. A form of renegades defensive back, Josh Haas Hawkins. I should say Josh Hawkins. After he posted a video being masculine. At a crowded restaurant. This is nuts. This is crazy. If you're XFL guy. And by the grace of anything. Holy, you get brought on to be on a, on an NFL squad. And then he's out, you know, how all these teams have been having issues cam Newton right. Was sick or the key, sorry. Cam Newton. It's not on advantage. I always default back. But it's just crazy. You have all these guys, you have all this illness and then now you have him running around in a club with no mask on and they kind of, well, is there a double standard here because, uh, In New York. The giants who are terrible. Uh, Daniel Jones, cornerback, who I don't think as a franchise quarterback at all. And Saquon Barkley we're out and about others on the team were out and about where without masks in New York. And I know New York has their, their case load has come dramatically down. They were the hot spot for a long time. I know their case count has come down, but Daniel Jones, Saquon Barkley, big time stars going out, hanging out. Not wearing, not wearing masks out and about, so maybe there's a, I don't know, because you're. You're talking about two different levels, two different tiers of player, I guess, you know, starters. As opposed to people that were signed to kind of fill roster spots. So, uh, yeah. It's interesting why these NFL players or just being reckless. I mean, I'm just saying if you, if you got that opportunity and that's how you decided to blow it, I mean, that is, there are plenty of guys behind you that are willing to take that spot. If you are not going to follow the rules. I mean, I don't think it's that hard. I think that, you know, they're, they've been ratcheting down with the teams as the season's gone on with, you know, the ongoing issues that have still been happening. But yeah, that's crazy. You brought up cam Newton. Um, I don't know how long, how much longer that experiment's going to work. So maybe there's a spot for Jordan taboo there. Yeah. Cam Newton patron's experience. Go. Experiment's going to work out. Cam's already worried about being badged. Uh, it might be a place where Tammy lands. Well, he, yeah, they finally sat him at the end of last week when they were, whatever that brutal game was when they were losing. I mean, I have a metal. Have you, have you been following that closely? I did follow it somewhat because I mean, the world series has been the focal point here in LA because you know, the Dodgers did win the world series. Um, but I did, I did follow it. I saw, I listened to the color play by play color commentary should say not color, play by play. The color commentary guy who, uh, Probably like three plays and was like, okay, this experiment's over bench him, bench him. There was like a viral video where the color commentary. Co color commentator was like completely trashing cam Newton. He's like you got a guy wide open, you gotta kind of way opened. This is ridiculous. Benchum bench. We'll have to find that audio cause it's just. It was one of the funniest things I heard this week about the situation. And cam looks lost out there. He looks completely lost out there. And, and he's basically. There's been an argument that now that Brady and Belichick or separate Brady's in Tampa Bay, Belicheck still in new England. Who helped, who, who made who? And there's been this argument for last. You know, almost year after Tom, after they decided Tom was going to move on, who helped, who was a Belczyk or was a brainy and brainy is winning that argument right now. Brady's winning that argument hands down, because if it's a system situation where Belczyk can find a system quarterback. They should have the same results they had with Tom Brady. And I do realize that in Tom Brady's initial run, like within the first eight years, The defense is what got the Patriots, where they were. I completely accept and acknowledge that that being said, That all being said, Tom Brady is still having more success in Tampa Bay than he had. And then, then he had maybe last year in new England. And I don't think it's a situation where Tom Brady's assistant quarterback. You're talking about one of the, you're talking about this era's goat. Is Tom Brady. My car by far, you had those conversations, whereas the busy better than Montana's, he better, not better than Montana. This era, Tom Brady is the greatest and. That's not a system thing. That's that's Tom Brady. Tom Brady has intangibles. You can't measure. In terms of a system or data on a computer, like the baseball Fricks do. Yeah, I just, yeah, I don't know what, uh, what, um, what new England does otherwise. I don't know what their, what their backup plan is right now. Neither do I. What else did you want to talk about? I want to talk about what we were talking about. COVID we were talking about the Dodgers. I want to talk about, um, your kids. Yeah. I watched the spring Lake on Tuesday. You watch the road, sir. Is I want to hear about this, like craziness with the COVID thing and the picture and everything. I want to get your take on this. Cause I know we texted a little bit. Okay. So. I have played baseball at every level. And I mean, every level. Like it's. No, my frame Jersey behind me. Why, what was it? One quarter of an Indian or something? What was it? Like it was like an inning and two thirds in two different games. Yeah. So. My point is, is like I detest what. Nerding over nerding is doing to the sport of baseball. I can't stand it. I, it, it, it just. Athletics. Can't be processed through a computer athletics. Can't be boiled down to numbers all of the time. Some of the time you have to go with your gut. And Dave Roberts, probably the last I want to save before this, the last four years has been relying too many times on data. This spreadsheet says X I have to do Y let's pull someone despite the fact that maybe. They're dealing, uh, for example, Mike Ford from the New York Yankees came in to pinch, hit for a Kyle. I have hard time pronouncing his name, the Ghosh. The OCA. Boom. Nailed it. Uh, magliocchetti yeah, you got Neil to, wow. We're on a roll read. So basically Mike Ford, who hadn't had a hit since August. Came in. To pinch hit for, uh, he goes, she, Oh, gosh. Yeah, I screwed up there. Um, in the ALDs against Tampa. The problem is, is that there, if that's statistical data driven decision, That is a dumb decision. And some of these decisions that are data driven are dumb. For example, Blake Snell was the, was this the picture we're talking about? He was coming up through the order. The third time. Now. Break this down in terms of I'll make the, I'll make an argument for data here. When Blake Snell comes in. And he's dealing he's 70, 70, some odd pitches and he is dealing. No one has an answer for him. No one has it. He's making, he's making the Dodgers lineup look like little leakers and the daughter's lineup is powerful. He's he's making them look silly. So Kevin Cash comes out before Mooky bets comes on because Mickey's Mickey's third time through the lineup. That's a data. Decision made by their nerds. They say no pitcher should face a lineup three times, you know, through except apparently for Tyler glasnow, who had to sit through 112 pitches. During the world series. It's it's it's insane. So when you look at the numbers, Mooky. Uh, Blake sells the left-hander Mooky is, you know, that's on the right hand, the right side of the plate. [unknown] uh, ops. Is high the first time he, he faces. A left-hander. A little bit lower the second time. And even lower the third time. So basically what you're talking about is Mooky is going to have less success. Seeing a pitcher on the third time, especially if they're a left-hander. Now in terms of Blake Snell, Blake stills. I can't remember the stat. I can't remember exactly what state it was, but Blake Snell. Actually gets better. The third time he faces a lineup. So in terms of data, you should have left Blake Snell in. That's that's data, especially gets Mooky bats. Who's. Who got them to discuss in the world series. Oh, yeah, I did. Hands down. So Dave Roberts used to rely on this and this, this time around in a shortened season, because in 162 game season, this, this system works. In a long drawn out sample size because you have crappy teams you play against. This works in a long, drawn out 162 game season. In a 60 game season with these playoffs. Data driven analysis does not work. And I, I will argue this tooth and nail. Till I die, how bad this decision was because Dave Roberts threw it out. David's like, I'm going to go with my gut here on this one. And look what happened. The Dodgers have broke their 32 year drought in terms of winning the world series. And then my other question was, cause this is my original question. Then you went into the dataset, which is great, uh, about the COVID about the guy that had the COVID that came back out. You know, th there's there's. Two schools of thought here. There's one. A lot of people are making arguments. Like these are adults making adult decisions. Okay. Fine. Whatever. Adults are free to make their own decisions. That's a personal freedom thing. I understand that argument altogether. The problem occurs when he takes off his mask and sits next to Dave Roberts, who is a cancer survivor. So therefore he is in a high risk area for catching COVID. The problem also exists. When Justin Turner is massless in front of a owner, a minority stake owner of the Dodgers that has HIV, who just happens to be named. Earvin magic Johnson. He's high risk. Dave Roberts is high risk. This was reckless. This was ridiculous. I understand you want to be out there. You want to celebrate your teams, but you. Had the Dodgers. Not one game six. This news would have come out. And what do we do? Do we quarantine everybody? Because all the tests except for a player's wife came back negative. And that's fine right now, but it's going to take a few days before maybe some viral load builds up in a test. To show that maybe other people were infected. Did they did. They just barely get this like world series done. Was it like. Me released there that the barrel of a gun. There was a conspiracy theory running around at like Rob Manfred called and said, Hey, Justin. Hey, Hey, Kevin Cash. The Tampa Bay manager. Hey, Kevin. Just say heads up. Uh, Justin, Turner's got COVID. Can you make sure you guys lose? There's a conspiracy theory running around about that. It's like, I don't. Yeah. You're leaning back like, Whoa, like you're like a gift right now. You're leaning back. There's no conspiracy here. The Dodgers were the better team hands down and they decided to go. Let's take the data, but let's take intuition and let's mix the two and let's get a formula wins. A world series. And now Clayton Kershaw has the monkey off his back. I just think this was reckless and I, you know, No, one's, I don't think any argument is wrong. In this term, like I see the point where people are like, these are consenting adults and Clayton Kershaw. If he wanted to hug, just attorney headed right to that's fine. But you have to think about the people that are on that field that are immunocompromised like Dave Roberts, like magic Johnson. I think it was reckless. When you talk about the conspiracies, that's like my, my grandpa. Rip, but he always would say, that's why the NBA always go seven games. You get more ad revenue. He gets seven games. Find those, you get more ad revenue that he always thought there was a conspiracy. So I, I actually said this on wheelhouse that I said Dodgers and six, and that came, that came to fruition. But last. Before game six, before you even start off first pitch. And, uh, this guy at work was like, Hey, what do you think's gonna happen? Oh, Tampa's going to win. The MLB needs. MLB is sorting, uh, allegedly going to be $8.3 billion in the hole this year. $8.3 billion. And I'm sorry, we're not talking about XFL. It's just to. Get back to it. We're going to get back to the XFL right after the commercial break. Um, the, the problem is, is that MLB is going to be in the whole $8.3 billion because of the pandemic. So, of course they want to milk a little bit more money out of the out of ad revenue and ticket sales and merchandise and beer and all that other crap. So I was like, Oh, this is going to go game seven. And I mean, I didn't believe it initially, but I, once I saw that news, that MLB was in trouble. I was like, this is going to go game seven. They need a little bit more money to kind of make up what they're going to lose. Um, for, for the entire season being short. Um, did you see the other thing I posted about the MBA have the MBA made ended up coming out. Okay. Yeah. Came out 10 billion, 10 million higher than they were slated to. Yeah, kudos. I mean, I think that's, that's a situation where people were just so, uh, desperate and thirsty for sports that they, the advertising revenue was going up because people wanted to watch something. They wanted to watch some sports and wanting to feel some sort of normal. And I love what the NBA did, where they, and WWE copied the NBA's model, where they did the. VW has the Thunderdome now where they put all the little zoom, FaceTime, whatever crap, you know, the, the fans. Virtually in attendance, the NBA started doing that and it was a great idea. Yeah. It was a genius idea. And I think that all that stuff helped make it fan friendly as friend friendly as it could be given the current situation. So would that being said, I think we're going to take a break. We're going to come back. We're gonna talk to, uh, jai, we're gonna talk to. jai Noakes and, uh, yeah, we'll, we'll, we'll get back on some more XFL stuff. I got some more stuff on the Google doc. Great. Hey, what's up, man. Hey, what's going on. Read. How's it going, Paul? How are y'all doing today? Good. How you doing man? Doing good man. Doing good and having a great day so far. Hold on. I don't think you guys got my camera. So. Alright. Go ma'am. Yeah, man. Thank y'all for having me super excited about being on the Markcast. Well, I really appreciate it. I saw when you posted the year, we're going to be covering the TSL and staff. And obviously I cover, you know, follow all your staff for everything anyways, and you know, the Cowboys and everything else. But I think we gotta get, you know, I mean, we're, we're football guys, but I think sometimes we need to know when we need to lean on people that maybe know a little bit more about some specifics that we do. So I'm glad that you could come on. Yeah, man. Thank you all so much for having me super excited to be here. Ma'am did you say you cover the Cowboys? I don't cover the Cowboys. Mmm Mmm. I would say I'm a fan, but I'm more critical than being a fan right now. Um, I think I've been more critical over the past 10 years, to be honest with you, the anything, but a I'm a, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a critic of the Cowboys, not a fan. I threw this out there that maybe just, maybe they should consider signing column. Kaepernick. Um, I don't, I don't know. Uh, well, number one, we got to remember who's the owner of the Dallas Cowboys as Jerry Jones. And, you know, he makes a lot of political stances. He, he has drawn the line. I don't think that that will happen, but. Um, I do think, uh, someone who could fit the mold, who similar to Colin Kaepernick, athleticism wise is Jordan. [unknown]. Jamo former XFL. Uh, st. Louis Battle Hawks. A quarterback who was recently with the Kansas city chiefs. I think that will be a perfect fit for them. Just got cut. Yeah. We're going to talk about that in the show that they, what was your reactions on that? Um, you know, I think. I mean, number one is the Kansas city chiefs. You got Pat my homes there. Um, and I'm sure they have experienced quarterback backing him up, I think is still Matt Moore. So, I mean, what's Jamo being cut. Really. He was there to mimic some of the upcoming opponents. Uh, that the cheese will be facing such as the Mar Jackson. Um, I forgot who else he was mimicking as well. Um, during his time with Kansas city. Uh, but I think he'll missing that week with COVID 19. Uh, really affected the overall. Uh, what, what he was going to be with Kansas city, unfortunately just didn't get enough time. Uh, but we'll see a lot more of these XFL players kind of shift around the league. Until they actually find a home. I believe. Uh, so, I mean, with that being said, I mean, the XFL is coming back at 2022. I'm sure. All of the players who were in the XFL before. Uh, she'll come back to this league. So hopefully Jordan's, Seattle's a battle Hawk again. Yeah. Chad Hennings the backup now for Kansas city. That's what it is. I knew it was somebody who was a Chad. Henny old chat and he used to play for the Jacksonville Jaguars and ah, 14 other NFL teams. If I remember correctly, He's like Ryan Fitzpatrick, just the poor version. Uh, while we're on the exit. What's your reaction to them coming back, Amanda, this is kind of dated news now, but, but what, what do you think about them? You know, hopefully we'll get some news here coming up. Uh, before too long, but coming back in 2022, Um, my reaction to it. I think it was well thought out. I mean, uh, the sources who I spoke with all said that they want, they wanted the, they wanted this league to have a sense of log longevity and credibility to it. Uh, they knew that the XFL, this the 2.0 version. Uh, built a solid reputation and built solid fan bases in each of the eight markets. So, I mean, and also we got to consider that, you know, we're still in the middle of a public health crisis, which can change the game for every everybody. So I thought it was a great move on their behalf. I thought, uh, you know, Jeffrey Pollock, Danny Garcia. Uh, Dwayne, the rock Johnson and Redbird capital partners made the right decision. Uh, it's a pause until 2022, because you also have to develop a player pool. You have to decide whether or not you want these coaches to come back. You have to decide whether or not you want team presidents to come back. If you could lock up some venues. All of that stuff. And logistically it's kind of hard to crunch it in the six month timeframe, especially when Vince McMahon took the XFL 2.0, announced it in 2018 and started playing in 2020. So I think they're following. Uh, the same blueprint and they're just trying to stick to their guns. And also trying with Jenny Garcia and Dwayne, the rock Johnson, they're trying to create innovative ways to promote the league. Uh, for the next a year and a half. So I think it was the right decision, in my opinion. Uh, speaking of XFL coaches that were also now involved in the spring league. I want to get your thoughts on, uh, Tuesday I followed, you know, cause the first two games were just on. Yeah. They didn't put them on TV. They were streaming. And then they had the, the big, uh, Tuesday night was going against Paul was watching the world series. So I know. I know that that was probably a bigger deal to some sports fans, but I was watching the spring Lake. What did you think about everything going on with that? Yeah. So Tuesday was actually a wife time night. So I had to spend a little bit of time with the wife. Uh, but I did get a chance to watch a one quarter of the spring league. And that was the General's versus a Congress. Um, I think that this is a great league, uh, for, and what, what people are mistaken the spring league for they're expecting the nuance of the XFL there. They think that the spring league is supposed to be what the XFL was and that's not. It all what it is, it's really a testing ground. It's really a proving ground players paid money to play on these teams. Uh, but I think it's a very interesting, because what we're going to see, we're going to see a lot of these players who are going to get a shot with the XFL. Uh, in the next rendition of it. So XFL 3.0. Uh, they're going to be able to select the, a really good player pool from the spring league and this season. And keep in mind, they're not only just doing this season in San Antonio, they're going to do their traditional spring league. And then they possibly could do the same thing next year to get some more players out there, get some more film out there for these players. So that way they could sign with XFL team or possibly a CFL team if they ever come back or who knows. Uh, NFL team, but I thought the play was exceptional. I was really impressed by Brian Allen. The kid was eight. He just seemed so poised. I actually reached out to him after the game and he responded. I just told him, you know, Hey man, you look confident, you look poised, you look like you're used to being back there. And that is what the XFL is really looking for. And in quarterbacks, I mean, we saw Jordan's. Yeah. We saw PJ Walker. We saw Josh Johnson. We shot, we saw, uh, it's sometimes we saw, uh, my guy. Uh, Taylor, Courtney, Courtney ileus. Performing a pretty high level. So I think, you know, this is a perfect lead for the XFL to develop that player pool and also get a really good solid quarterbacks that can play, uh, play the position pretty well. So I'm pretty excited about the league. I'll be out there next Tuesday, uh, covering the Fs. One game, um, in the nighttime and also the one that will not be streamed at four o'clock. So it's going to be a good time. Yeah, it's interesting because we've talked on the podcast. He and my wife, we're kind of becoming a football household now with the podcast and, you know, exit fountain and that fountain. And yeah, I mean, we watched the game, she thought it was great. I mean, you know, cause I'm asking her well, what, yeah. What do you think about this? I mean, there, there was a little, you know, some drop passes, some things. I mean, you gotta remember that a lot of these teams had only practice, I think like six games or six times before the games, but I mean, she thought it was compelling and we watched the whole thing. It was like 33 to 19. I can't remember what the final score was, but it was. I mean, it was exceptional. She had a great time. I mean, did you, did you think that they, they delivered on that, on the promise that, that people tuned in to see. I think that they delivered only because, I mean, like I said, we got to keep everything in perspective. I think we got to take everything into consideration. When you look at the spring league. Uh, like you said, they didn't get a lot of preparation. Uh, I mean, let's compare it to the NFL. So for instance, I mean, you see a lot of these teams in week one for the NFL, they didn't have the traditional training camp. Mini-camp. OTA is, or what have you, I ordered to prepare for the upcoming season and the byproduct of that was players. Uh, not really being fundamentally sound and for some teams, like my dad was Cowboys and, and. And I'm going to throw this out there. Like my Dallas Cowboys, they're not fundamentally sound and it's week eight. So, um, you know, I, I think that, you know, those struggles in the spring league fundamentally. Um, was expected. I think a lot of people were happy to knock the rust off. Uh, some players look good. So I'm just didn't and that all comes with preparation. And, uh, all comes with having time to prepare and to a sharpen those fundamentals, if you will. Uh, so that way, you know, they could put a better product out on the field. And stay healthy. It's all a lot of injuries too. In the first few weeks of the NFL, regular season for critics that say the preseason is too long and it's too ridiculous. Like this is, that was another by-product we saw. I agree. I think the preseason, I think what we saw with the NFL is that a pre-season isn't necessarily effective, but if we get at least two weeks in there, Uh, of, uh, practice and preparation, installing, you know, different offensive schemes for coaches that can benefit them going into the regular season. But I think four preseason games is outrageous. You know, I just think it's too much. And that's where you see a lot of injuries creep up before this even starts. Uh, but yeah, I just think it's a, I think it's all about fundamentals at this point. For any level of football. Uh, the, the spring league, when the XFL comes back. They're going to go through their steps of preparation and going through fundamentals as well. Implemented schemes. Uh, that's the biggest part about football is that your fundamentals have to be sharpened and the preparation has to be there. Uh, it was what was interesting to me was, and I really didn't know what to expect it. And Dan. Uh, it seemed like the announcers, everybody was really knowledgeable about everything. The players had done their research because you know, I'm figuring, okay, this is Tuesday night, opposite the world series. I mean these guys, right? I mean, let's be honest here, you know, trying to get. I'm excited to be like a Fox announcer covering these games, but I thought they did a great job. They knew the whole history of the league talked about. You know, stuff from last year, I knew, you know, knew which players had come back and it Excel before. I mean, I was just really impressed that it really seems like everybody was doing, uh, what they could cause I kind of tuned in thinking, well, this could kind of be a train wreck, you know? I mean, who really knows what it's gonna look like and sound like, what did you. I think about that. I thought the production was great. And anytime you got Joel, Klatt on the call, you're going to have a really good broadcast. Um, and you know, I think that, you know, with their, with their research and the preparation, that's just what they do. Um, I mean, like you said, the spring league has been around for four or five years at this point, at one point, uh I'm in Austin, Texas. They actually did a season here in Austin. I think that's when Johnny Manzell came back. I think it was 2016. Uh, when they did the season here in Austin. So the spring league has been around, uh, also the XFL tested out most of their roles at the spring league. So they had garnered a name for themselves, but they haven't gardener there. A name for themselves in regards to being like a big football brand, they've always prided themselves on being a developmental league, given players a shot to get some film out there for Scouts and coaches and that type of thing. But I thought the production of it was, was phenomenal. It felt like a Sunday on a Tuesday with Joel Klatt and there are a big noon kickoff gang with Joel Klatt in there. So I thought the preparation was great. The research was great. I also started researching players. That's why I was like Brian, Scott. The kid is, is really good. Um, also I have a few players down there, Dwayne Wallace, who I speak with frequently. Uh, we're showing Simon eyes who is a, who was a wide receiver in the Canadian football league. Also had a stint, uh, with, um, With the Cincinnati Bengals as well. So, I mean, you know, there are players out there who have, who have developed, are garnered a name for themselves. Uh, and it's easy for, it's easy for Joel Klatt in that Fox team to, you know, recognize them and research those players. And by God. I keep forgetting the name of Willie. Yarberry, uh, number 90. It, I, he was at how the interception, he had a forced fumble. He had a sack and they were saying, man, this guy could go tomorrow. To the NFL, I give day because you know, they're talking about this, it's, it's four weeks, it's kind of scrimmage games, but these guys are playing for tape. Right. You know, you're playing, you only have, you know, if you're a QB and you maybe got two quarters to get whatever in that game, you know, when they're split duties. And they said, man, you know that kid. He could walk in tomorrow, if someone needed to fill in the spot with an injury or, you know, if someone got sick with COVID, you know, everything's just so up in the air. And a lot of these guys, they were already saying like, Maddie, if you wanted to Excel in, in day one, he did. And a lot of them did, and it was just kind of exciting to, to see and hear that. So, yeah. Can the sea Hawks call that guy, please. Just shore up the deep, Hey look, the Seahawks just got, uh, uh, Carlos Dunlap. So hopefully that helps. Now Paul, that's a great point after Sunday and we, we couldn't, we couldn't get anything on, uh, on, um, Arizona and all you could, we could definitely use some sax in the horse. Bumble's off the QB. Uh, jai, anything else before we let you go? Anything else? Uh, any thoughts about the spring league, about the XFL? I I'll be curious to follow you, uh, next week. Uh, go into the Alamo dome, um, thoughts on not getting excited. Yeah, man, I'm getting really excited. Uh, I mean this whole 12, the past 12 months has been such a whirlwind. Got on Twitter, started covering the XFL, uh, with the draft and everything. Um, and you know, By by this time, this year are, you know, I got over 1100 in four followers, which, you know, I don't pride myself on. I'll try to validate myself because of that. What has been a fun ride, you know? And I'm just sharpening my skills, trying to be the best journalist I can be the best reporter I can be. I don't really see myself as an insider. I see myself as somebody who's stressed out with information. Um, and I built those relationships and it's a combination of her. What I had built over the past 12 months. So I'm super excited about covering the spring league. Uh, if I get any information in regards to the XFL, my sources have went completely silent by the way. Uh, because they're all preparing for what's to come for the next step of preparation for 2021 going into 2022. I'm a super excited man. I also do a radio show, a podcast. If you will. On Facebook every Wednesday at six 30, he called notes by notes. Uh, you guys shared it last night. I appreciate your support by the way. Uh, I do that when my homie, uh, Joe Scanlon. Uh, up in Ardmore, Oklahoma. So we have a great time. So feel free to stop by on Facebook. Live Wednesdays, six 30 live. Yeah, Kelly, Jo, the equip, making fun of you in the Cowboys. Tell him that, that he, you know, he needed to lay off. I see, I see these posts about people wearing masks and staff and your team lost to football team with no name you guys. I mean, Paul's mean enough to me. We don't need everyone being mean to each other, to other co-hosts and stuff. I'm not the one with the Google doc every week. It's funny. It's really funny because Joe is actually a Cowboys fan. I'm just, like I said, I'm a critic, uh, you know, and I try to just tell them what I see. And he's a big time Romo fan. I'm a DAC fan. So we have those types of stats on the, on the show as well. So, you know, we have fun with it, man. And, uh, we, we love each other, man. We we've been knowing each other. Since March and we developed a really good relationship over the past. Uh, nine or eight to nine months. And he's a really good guy, but, uh, yeah, I'm gonna tell him to stop, you know, Uh, you know, Piling on me. You know what I'm saying? Like, I think Gucci, the new chief is going to do something on Sunday and he's going back and forth these like Gucci, the new cheese going to be trashed. So we'll see, man. We'll see, it's going to be a fun game on Sunday. Paul you're being very motive over there. Best of luck. Yeah, that that's sending that game's going to be rough. I was looking at that this morning and I thought, wow, that's going to be a. I mean, right. Is that right? Or am I? Yeah, no, I'm sorry. I'm mixing up. I'm exempt board of X. I think Dalton is out, but, you know, I think this is good opportunity for the Cowboys to kind of get back to what they were doing with dad. Back in 2016, the new G super athletic, he, uh, he poisons the threat of the read option. As well. Zeke Elliott has talked about that too. So I think it's going to be very interesting to see, uh, I just think this is a evaluation period for the Dallas Cowboys, but they're just trying to see what players are buying into this culture that Mike McCarthy has. And who's not, and they're getting rid of those players who aren't well, whoever gets six T six wins in this division is probably going to win it. So. Pretty sacred. Paul, jai, thank you so much. And then we'll stay in touch and I'll be following you next week when you're down in that, when you're down in San Antonio. For sure. A fellow's let me know if y'all want me back on the show. Man would love to stop by again, fellas. I appreciate you guys. Thank you so much. Alright man. There we go. We got our, we got our in-sync again. We got our blackout screen. jai was great. I appreciate jai coming on the podcast. He's going to be in San Antonio next week. I talk in spring Lake. I wanted to do just a tiny bit more about the spring league. Uh, because I wanted to apply James Larson's article. I he's going to be on the podcast next week, talking about the spring league. Um, Paul are Jazzmasters. I hate to tell you this got, um, like rocked. And it was like 20. 28 zero. We got rock. Uh, and, and they said that, um, just to finish up this spring Lake staff, uh, the, the prime time game was the generals in the conquerors. They both ended up having. The most complete teams that they had, like drafted and everything that everybody's show that. So Josh was supposed to have Quintin flowers. He didn't show up. You got a lot of people, either no show or like their agent submitted them. And then they didn't realize they were in the thing. And I don't really know how all that I don't. Yeah. Don't I don't know. But, um, so yeah, so, so, so the alphas, uh, beat, uh, the how, whereas. The, the alphas are lost through the blues and blue smoke down. I had the blues have killer jerseys. They've got this like a white and blue. Thing. But the Jazzers got rocked, but I do want to say, and I'm going to petition this to be the title of the episode. Cause I already have my photo that I would like to photo shop if this is okay. Re. Reed needs at Jasper's Jersey like stat. Cause this thing it's like purple, it's got like white and purple checker shoulders. Dorothy loves it and they need to sell. And I want to post this and if the spring league. It's a pay to play league. You're charging these people to play the jerseys look sick, and the fact that they're not selling them, I tweeted the spring league. I said, if you don't sell these jerseys, you are hi. And I got a lot of support on that. So I'm just saying that, that, that the jazz masters. I'm going to put that. I would like to put that as the, uh, as the thumbnail for this video podcast. If I have your permission. That's totally fine by me. Speaking of the spring league, what is this about a 73 yard field goal. You should, what, what is this? Which at which step? Uh, the conquerors 73 year old field goal, Matt mangle. Is this real. Uh, you're going to need to give me more, I'm looking, I'm looking for context because you're the King of context. Yeah. Oh, um, yeah, no, that was the article from our boy, Josh Davis from last week. And he did an interview with, um, with the guy, the conquerors kicker, getting ready to go on the season. And that was kind of talking about how. Uh, not all the games are going to be televised and complaining about that, which I totally agree. They, Josh laments that, and we've said before, they need to put, uh, they need to point the camera. They're shooting all the games anywhere for the tape. But the fact that, that, that, that first game was a blowout and then the Jazzers or a blowout. And then the, the primetime game ended up having a competitive score. It was like 33 to 19. Uh, proves that they probably have the right idea. Not broadcasting those first two games, the 28 zero loss. I think there were seven turnovers in the jouster. Esther's in the Chesters game. So yeah. Uh, we sh when we've had jai on the show, we should have talked about this too, that a Hunter [unknown]. Lander former DC defender punter kicker has signed a deal with the problems. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, uh, jai, jai, I'll be happy about that. More and more exit Velo guys getting, getting reps in and getting on. So that should be good. What else did you have, man? Uh, so we have a, we have a, uh, all of our luck update about the offer, like Vince McMahon lawsuit. Uh, so Josh was reporting. That pearler ah, I'm going to, I'm going to basically, I'm going to say all this and I'm going to need you to, to legalees figure this out for me. Cause you're the expert when it comes to the legal stuff. Uh, so there's two things. Josh Davis on Twitter says preliminary liquidation analysis done by big man shows that the general unsecured creditors could expect to get 10% of their claim and the liquidations agreement, this isn't binding, they can change once the court has time to assess. Does that mean anything to you first off? Uh, basically means that, um, they're going to the initial payout is going to be 10%. Um, that's, that's where I'm, I'm reading it is that the initial pain I was going to be 10% and then. Each individual creditor will have their own ability to argue their own separate. Uh, I've been through a bankruptcy. So I know that. Each individual creditor will be able to argue their own case as to why. They should be paid out. As opposed to someone else or. Why they should have. The ability to feel like they will be paid some of what they're owed. Um, that's basically what that means is that everything like a bankruptcy case is basically. Kind of like a class action lawsuit in reverse. Um, where the person who has the defendant files a suit. To be clear there. Could clear up their bankruptcy. And then every creditor becomes a plaintiff in that suit. So it's kind of reverse. In terms of like, if I file bankruptcy, then cap. Uh, you know, Capitol one and my car. You know, my car. Loan company and then American express. They become the plaintiffs and they ask, well, what are we going to get out of this? If we go ahead and say, yeah, judge, that's fine. We agree on this thing. So basically it becomes like all these different separate little cases within a one bigger case. So as people come in and McMahon still. Oh, yeah. Cause he, you know, all this stuff. And then we got this other thing and it's on Bloomberg law and they need you to, to pay for a subscription. So clearly we're not going to do that, but you're talking about how [unknown]. McMahon is going to fund the XFL defense in ex CEOs, wrongful firing suit. So I thought that all of our luck was coming at McMahon. I thought the whole thing was that all of her luck left the whole case. Go let the XFL get sold. All that cause he was coming at McMahon. So now why has Vince McMahon funding the XFL defense? Why is, why is the XFL is still involved in this at all? Because it counts as a loss at the end of the year. And it's it's. We're coming up on December. So if McMahon funds funds a defense for bankruptcy hearing. He can write that off on his taxes as a business expense. Wow. By the way, are you still kind of mad that you paid more in taxes than Trump ever did? Oh, I pay, I pay a lot in taxes. I failed taxes. Um, eh, well, so this is interesting. It's just interesting that that's still going on. I just, I think we've said before that we think this is going to get settled out a core, but it is just interesting to McMahon is still. I would not be involved in this anymore. Right. If you're saying that he might be doing this for tax reasons or whatever, I mean, I would just like walk away Vince. Right. You lost, like you took a big Al. Just walk away. You're able to walk away now. Just do it. Nope. I understand. Taxes on billionaires are horrible. Nope. Just walk away. That's what I would do. Uh, what do you think about Tampa? Hellerstein 20% capacity for the super bowl. Yeah. I just saw that, um, Bold bold strategy cotton. Let's see if it plays out for them. So, yeah, I'll put it out for him. I just, you know, like, aye. We'll see what happens after this, uh, this world series, because I mean, they had, they had fans in those, in attendance in Texas. In Texas, isn't like, Got their cases under control. I mean, El Paso's caseload is up 190%. I know El Paso and Dallas are on two opposite ends of the state. I get it. It's Texas. It is Texas. And unfortunately this has become a little bit of a political issue. I don't know if you've paid any attention. And Texas is very Republican. So they're like, screw this per you know, it's a personal freedom. You're able to do what you want. I agree to that substance, but you have to also care about people, but let's see what happens about a week from now. Now the world series is over to determine if this is okay to do. Well, and the difference too is is this isn't like you got. Like when, uh, they had 1200 fans or something in the Seahawks Cardinal's game last week in Arizona, right? I mean, that's a really low number, but this isn't, this isn't normal. Arizona Cardinals games. Ooh. Uh, but this isn't that, I mean, but the super bowl. You're going to have people traveling in presumably. Right? So that's also the issue with that too, is this isn't Kansas city has got 8,000 people in the stands or, you know, whatever. I mean, the Seahawks aren't having anybody, but this is presumably people traveling in and out, or maybe you tried to like negate that, but how do you negate that? Right. Cause it's the super bowl. So I think that is like the tricky situation. I don't think it's necessarily the people traveling and you have to worry about it's the people traveling out of. COVID hotspot. Well, that's cool. Yeah. They'll take that COVID out of Florida and spread it all around the country. Great idea. I mean, it's going to be Kansas city in Tampa Bay. Anyway. So who knows, you know, maybe only people go really traveled to, and from Florida, our people, our Kansas city fans, you think it's going to be Kansas city and the Buccaneers, that's your call for the soup? That's my call. Well, Seattle's defense is suspect, dude. Yeah. They can't match Tampa. They can't like Tom Brady and that. That offense that he has down there with Leonard Fournette. He can't map. They see ox can't match. Tampa Seahawks will have to play against Tampa for the NFC championship. I call that, but Tampa and Kansas city, that's going to be your super bowl. That's going to be your support and. God willing if that's correct. We're gonna replay this clip. Uh, I want to talk from the front of the best teams of the league to the worst teams in the league. And there was XFL. Uh, Eric Castillo may that made a debut at the New York jets. Uh, the Owen Owen six jets. Uh, terrible whereas team in the league, but he, they signed him and he made it feel gold. So he put more points on the board then. Some of them. A lot of the time. Oh, my gosh. At least, at least something is, is at least they're scoring some points there because there was a long time where we're like, are the Guardian's going to score more points at MetLife stadium than the giants or jets are. Is that really going to happen? I know. Yeah, the jets are pretty far, but he got signed on there. He was a Houston roughnecks are rough Necker. He made five field goals. He was a key member of the XFL is only undefeated squad. This is from Xcel fell, board.com. And, uh, he was with the CFL. And, uh, he, he got in there and then our boy, Donald Parham. Got another TD this weekend for the chargers. So that was great too. We had a couple of XFL guys. We're still waiting on, uh, you know, PJ Walker. And then obviously Jordan Tam, who got caught, but you had a par ham and then that Castillo making, or is it Castillo? Am I saying that right? Words are hard for me sometimes, but yeah. So you got, you got some Mexican guys making some action, so that's good. Jets are Oh, and seven. Seven by the way. Oh, in seven. That's pretty. We got that cleared off. Do you want to talk about, this is something out of left field, and this is something, uh, this, this fan controlled football league. I want to talk about. This is a true thing. So this is a totally true thing. And, and so, um, my, one of my guys that works for me, so Matt clemencies. Nancy's not going to listen to us, but he works for me. He's one of my partners. He goes and shoots videos. He had messages to me weeks ago when he said, Hey, you know, you guys are doing this exit valve thing. You need to check out this FCF. And I say, what the heck is CFCF? And the SDF is, uh, for anyone that wants to know it's the fan controlled football league. And this has some big names behind it. You have Marshawn Lynch behind a team. You have Mike Tyson behind the team. You have, uh, Greg Miller he's with what'd you say you have Quavo. GWAVA, I don't know who that is. Cause I don't really know sports, but you have, uh, you have great. Greg Miller with that with kind of funny games and kind of funny games is like, these guys make like 50 grand a month on just doing like our night more than that. I mean, there are, these guys make so much fricking money on, on video game stuff. But if you watch this video, if you go to fcf.io, Uh, that's your website. And so they were originally going to launch last year. And then kind of all this went down and, you know, COVID and everything, but apparently they're trying to launch in February. And the whole thing about this is it's a, and the reason why we're talking about this is Yahoo sports is to the whole article this week about them partnering with Twitch. And it's going to be like seven on seven. And it's going to be one hour games and then all the people you're going to be able to sit on Twitch on like your phone, whether you're, I mean, no one would be in the audience right now, but if you were like in the stadium or if you were at home and it's going to be like Madden, and they're going to show the game, like the show, the plays, like they're going to show like, you know, ABCD and then you're all gonna vote. And then like the team's going to run, you know what I mean? Like, so then they're going to run that thing and it's in right. Now, if you go to FCF, um, Dot IO. You can, uh, you can like join to be a fan. You can get registered because you have to be registered. There'll be to be able to vote and stuff. But then what was interesting is. Like, if you vote for plays that are successful, then like your votes end up getting more points down the line. It's not like your bunk for the wrong play every time. Like they're not going to count your vote. They're back. You're a Mark. Like, even though, you know, read doesn't know what he's, you know, cause I'm like go for it every time, go for it. And they're like, no, we actually. Yeah, we actually need it. Uh, kick a pint or whatever. What do you think about this? Uh, Marshawn Lynch, Skittles, Marshawn. Lynch's involved. I mean. Interesting concept. Um, you know, I liked the whole choose your own adventure. Like, you know, when they were kid used to have those books where like, if you wanted to do this turn to page 24, if you want to do this turn to page 55. I like that idea of it. I just, it's going to be interesting to see, like maybe, you know, because you're relying on technology and technology can fail. What if the votes don't come in, then you're just like, well, what do we run? Hail Mary here. Do we put on second down? What do we run? Well, that I don't get is, is how the hell do you do a fan vote? It's got it's an hour game, right? That's all thing. It's seven on seven it's an hour game. It looks, and I think it's like kind of BS footage. They shot last year, you know, like. It's like a style there wasn't like a real game, you know, they made it look like prototypes. Thank you. But, um, you know, it's our game. How do you do fan voting? You know, I give a play clock's 40 seconds. Not enough time to, you know, in a normal football D to huddle, you get a fan vote. The coach has got to get the results. They've got to relay it to the quarterback. They've got to do. I mean, could you imagine, like, not knowing like lining up and not knowing what play you were doing and they'd be like, Oh, Hey, we're going to do, you're not going to go in the house. You're going to wait in the huddle until the play is called. Of course, obviously. And maybe, maybe it's a situation where. A play is called in advance, where you call a play. And then like, so you're, it's the kickoff, right? And Quavo, his team is receiving with gray Quavo. And Richard Sherman's teams. I don't know. They're going to call them. Yeah. Oh yeah. Richard, I forgot Sherman's involved. Yeah. So Cleveland. SIEM is, is, is you're picking that one. I know I got a story after this read as a story. So. They're kicking off to Quavo. Most team. [unknown] receiving it. It's at that point during that kickoff, you're voting for the first play. And as they're running or they're, as they're taking this field for the first play you're voting for the second down or the, the, you know, if that's successful. You get what I'm saying? Like you're voting a play ahead basically. But when did you get stuffed? I mean, you can't, I mean, I guess, I mean, I'm sure coaches are always looking ahead, but I mean, You kind of want to know in the moment, right? I don't think this is going to be use. I don't think anyone who does this is going to be a casual football fan. They're going to know like, okay, it's first down. We should probably run. Okay. We're we're at the five. We should probably run. There's going to be, there's probably going to be some people that are going to go for it, you know? Let's throw the ball out of the, off the one yard line, which is fundamentally about sound. It's not a sound decision at all. Um, but I think that, you know, you're going to get people that are going to do this, that are going to know the game of football. They're going to play Madden. They've played Madden. They understand that you run on first down, they understand that, you know, Third and seven you're definitely going to pass. And people that line up on defense going, okay. It's third and seven. They're definitely going to pass here. It's going to be obvious. Um, so it's basically a situation where. Do the people that are choosing the plays. Are they able to communicate amongst themselves and say, we have to really run here because they're expecting a pass. Like, like you're, you're leaving so many elements up to. Opinion. Yeah, it's a lot of money that, I mean, twitches all in this. I have my story really quick talking about. So Richard Sherman is also one of the people on the team. I don't know if you know this story. When, uh, when I was back at my former news job and I famously did not like covering sports because I just didn't know anything and all the drama, and you're trying to wait all this time. They had me go film. A Richard Sherman was doing, they, he had just signed with the Seahawks and he was doing the meet and greet at Dick's drive in on queen Anne. And I'll see that. I'll tell them. Huh. How Seattle of him. Yeah. And so, I don't know. So Russell Wilson had just got hired right. Or signed and then average determined had just got signed. So I'm like, okay. Our, whatever. I don't know who any of these guys are. And so, I mean, this was like eight years ago. And so I go to Dick's or whatever, and they go, so Aaron Levine goes, Hey Reed. He was the sports director. He goes, when you interview Richard Sherman. You have to get them to say, Hey, this Richard Sherman, you're watching cue it up sports. We needed it. We need to get him to do like the intro. They try. We try to get all the different celebrities, you know, Hey, you're listening to the Markcast. I'm Charmin Jones, that kind of thing. So. Uh, we tried that. We tried that on our own anyway, so I go and I'm like, okay, what's this guy's name? What's this guy's name? And I go, Hey, so you got to say, can I get you to please say hi, this is resident Sherman. [unknown] for it, then he goes, My name is Richard Sherman. He was so mad. And I got, I'm sorry, I just walked in the door. They had me go do this. I don't know who you are. Like, I'm sure you're very talented, but I don't know who you are. And now, you know who he is and he is going to be one in the fan controlled football league. So maybe. There was like three straight days where I was set on Richard Surman, Sherman stories. When I worked there. Yeah. First day, I was like, it was a sports illustrated cover story, and then it was all like a Madden tournament where Bobby Wagner waxed everybody. And then there was something else. And the third day is like, bro, can they send someone else out to cover this stuff other than you? And I'm like, I dunno, man. Hey, bud. I don't make the decisions at. Yeah. Uh, okay. Okay, we got that one. I want to talk about, can we talk about this Yahoo finance? And then did you see my question? Can we, do you think we could play a minute of audio of a Yahoo finance club meeting? We'll get fined on YouTube. I don't think we'll go find on YouTube, but let's give it a shot. Okay. So this is your. You know, X and XFL right now stands for X and brings to mind that the questions too, about your own X here. A DJ's role might be in the league. A lot of people have been speculating about what his role might be versus your role. So he was saying he should be in the booth talking about the games. Are you looking to maybe use his brand to bring some of that cache back to the XFL here? Well, what's the strategy around that? Whereas I've got a acknowledged the transition with the ex that was so masterfully done. We don't need to make fun of Danny. And I also appreciate when the public gets really vocal, how Dwayne should be used. So, you know, Dwayne is an owner and co-owner with us and obviously Redbird and Jerry Cardinel. So that element is in fact for us. We are extremely hands-on and the XFL is a day to day process for me in particular. And right now, because we're filming red notice, it's an in-between seeing processes. For DJ. But we have his schedule blocked out for the season. For each season so that we actually can be on the road and go to the game. So there's a real presence, not only from the corporate and storytelling, because even though everyone knows DJ, as you know, in front of the camera is actually an incredible producer and content producer. So. And he's also a former athlete. I'm a professional athlete. He's a former football player. He wouldn't be playing in the XFL. We went back so many years ago and that opportunity was there. So that interaction. With the athletes that representation the interaction with the fans, making our games or like games and event, not just because you're watching the game, but what happens before? What happens in the booth? We actually plan on being extremely forward facing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That's right. So this is from Yahoo finance. They were interviewing Danny about the XFL and what basically the tagline of the article is what to expect from the XFL. And it's third attempt taking on the football league. Um, and that was obviously Danny talking to the reporter, Zach Guzman. First off, we do not need to make it. Danny is a wonderful person. She's not the Rock's ex wife anymore. Like I'm so done with that. And then, well, from the Oaks of the eRx, the rock to the Oaks of the XFL at, you know, she's like, so over it. Oh, that's such a funny transit. Dude, she handled that so gracefully though. And we're not, we're not just here, like kissing up to Danny. Oh, We're sick of, I I'm personally, I think you are to speak for both of us. Stop referring to those rocks ex like she is the brains. Yeah. Not be where he is. If not for her, she's the brain. It's not saying that Brock's dumb. She is a very, very intelligent human being and Danny should stand on our own merits. Let's stop doing this croaks. Ex wife s**t. That's okay. We'll we'll quote that part out. Uh, w w but what do you think about that? What do you think about her saying first off XFL is a day to day thing for her right now. And that they have the rock schedule for seasons to come set aside so that they can be on the road for the XFL. I want the rock in the booth. If the rock is in the booth. Were, you know, you sent an article about TV rights for the XFL coming up in a, in a post pandemic era. If the rock is in the booth, they're going to get a good TV deal because the rock equals ratings, no matter what I mean. Look, what happened with impact wrestling? The rock showed up on impact wrestling to induct chem, Ken Shamrock. In their hall of fame. The rock on impact wrestling. I was probably the highest rated segment in the history of impact wrestling. It was like via zoom, right. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. The Rocky equals writing. So I want to see the rock in the booth. If they're planning on doing this. Put the rock in the booth. Bye. Yeah, but I just thought this was really important to share, because I know that we've batted around on here before. Okay. How involved is rock and be, I mean, this is from Danny's mouth. They have his schedule set aside. They're going to be on the road. He is going to be involved. I mean, that is just, if you are a fan of this league succeeding, that is all really, really, really good stuff to hear. It is. Definitely. I think we've called current a lot of ground here today. There's a lot, there's a few other things that we didn't talk about. Are you running? I gotta go soon, man. I gotta go soon. Is your mattress here yet? A FedEx truck. Truck is outside. Okay, well, let's I really want to finish some of this stuff. We can edit this out. I really want to finish some of this stuff, please. I know you're trying to like, I'm sorry. Okay, we're almost done. It's been, it's been an hour and 10 minutes. I understand, but I've got like, I got to go pick up a U haul. I know we got, we got 10 minutes. Give me 10 minutes. Okay. Please. No. Okay. Uh, anyway. They should get you very excited about this. I did want to touch on this great parks article real quick, that the TVs rights with the XFL. Uh, interesting. Cause he's kind of down on that. Greg's been down on the XFL the whole time, talking about how TV rights are down. Uh, except, you know, even like the NBA finals were down 49%, you know, the college football is down. I mean, what do you, what do you make of all this and Greg's article. I know you're more positive about, uh, XFL. Hopefully I think Greg is, I think Greg is being way too pessimistic about this in all seriousness. Um, People aren't able to go to the games right now. So, where are they going to go watch the games? On TV. So why are we being pessimistic about expo? Getting a bad TV deal? I don't. I don't see that being a problem at all. Well, especially if we get the rocket. I mean, if, if he's in the booth, if he's doing the play by play, if he's on the road week to week, I mean, if you have the rock do in the interest of the game, I mean, I think it's a no brainer that they're going to want to get people involved. I think the rock is going to be heavily involved in the broadcast and if they're going. If, if what Danny said, it's true. And they're going to break out his schedule to where he's on the road with the XFL. I honestly believe that, uh, that's, that's just. They, they have to use them on an on-camera in an Inn. In an on-camera fashion. Uh, it was a hard one to say there. In an on-camera fashion, they have to use him. Uh, as a color commentator, maybe, maybe someone that goes up and talks to the players during the middle of the game, who knows, who knows. But I think that this Greg's being a little bit pessimistic about this, because the only way you watch sports right now is on TV. Um, especially if you're concerned about catching the COVID. Uh, you're not going to go to a venue and watch. Watch sports right now. You're just not going to do it. Yeah. Uh, final topic. Uh, about the WWE performance breakout. Uh, WWE performance center, speaking of the bubble, speaking of coveted speaking them, all these different things. Debbie, Debbie has another COVID breakout in the performance center. Uh, yeah, I mean, this was all, I guess like there was like some kind of a local. In in, uh, In Florida or something where there were, there were like, there was like, uh, Small amount of fans and they say, who was the. The people that got sick with COVID. It didn't sound like it was anybody like main roster, but it's still, it's the fact that they're kind of dealing with this. And I think they've been, when I've heard on like the wrestling podcast, is there kind of sweeping a lot of this under the rug, if anybody's getting it, or if anybody says they were like, The MLB is saying, Hey, you know, I mean, and I know we talked about that, but like the WB, like isn't even like publicizing if certain people have it. I mean, it's the same thing back when they have their wellness checks and it was the whole thing with steroids and our guys using steroids. They wouldn't report a lot of it. If you were a big star and you got, if they maybe suspected you were doing steroids, They wouldn't report it. And it doesn't seem to me any difference now that the w that we wouldn't be talking about, well, if, if Roman reigns, I mean, he's different because he's immunocompromised, there was a lot of those guys. They might just take them off TV for a couple of weeks and not talk about it. And I wonder if that makes a Roman reigns immuno, who is immunocompromised consider go wait a second. What, what are we doing? I know, I feel like, I feel like the only way Roman would have come back in that scenario. Is if Vince assured him that there were precautions being taken. And I mean, this is the second outbreak. It says it's a second outbreak, but I think it's the third. If I'm not mistaken, this is the third outbreak. Yeah, I just, like I said, putting it, putting it together in my head, you know, they lie about a lot of the health staff. It makes no difference to me. I don't know why they wouldn't, this wouldn't be any different for them to lie in the lie or cover up some of the COVID stuff. So. Interesting. My last day and I'll let you go. I know you've got a busy day. Just our really quick shadows or Cinco. I took off everything up. From the Google doc. It's okay. Chad Ochocinco was asked this week. What was the most money you've ever spent taking someone out on a date and you know what he said? $40. That's that's Chad's thing though, man, he lives like he's broke. But then he also posted that he paid somebody $1,000 at driving the McDonald's cause he was hungry. Okay. So I guess it's selective. How broke he is. I think dude. I don't know, man. I can tell you stories where I. Where I went. Where I've gone on cheap dates. And, you know, It's been one of the best dates I've had. Maybe that's a situation where they just enjoy each other's company. You don't know, you don't know, like in the park walking the farm. In a hanging all in the hands of chat. Cause he's single, right? I mean he's famously single, I think he's, I think he's single one of them, one of my, uh, Follows on Twitter. Uh, she heard out, she found out that we interviewed him on the Markcast and she's like, Oh my gosh, do you have his contact info? And I'm like, no, it was just, it was set up. So, uh, yeah. Um, Yeah. Wow. People I chat Dan, he's a, he's an engineer. Dude. He's a likable dude. He's always been a likable dude. I've always liked chat. Uh, I liked the bombastic kind of braggadocio type of player in Chad's that guy. And I think he's very entertaining, I think is very funny guy. And, uh, we'd love to have modern again. I definitely would. I tweeted. I tried to do our two eyes. Check in this week and he's on like NFL podcast now. I'm like, okay. I mean, Always at least you remember your roots, Chad. At least where you came from. I mean, you were here first. We had shadow. Just go for it, just to remember that. All right. Well, that being said, I got to run. I've got a busy day. Uh, and I've been very patient. Yes, we appreciate it. We appreciate, uh, the, you have a mattress being hauled up your stairs right now, then move into your apartment. So God bless you. You're doing the Lord's work, Paul, I think. Lorde's work, read every week. So again, go to a XFL show.com/uh, what does that review? And also also we didn't plug this XFL show.com/merch. Because now you have your hat situation, all fixed, right. Well, we don't, but I wasn't going to get into all that today. I thought you were, you were running out of time. I am running out of time, but we will definitely get the hat back up soon. Reads reads probably got a long story about that and we'll share that next week probably. And that, thank God. Thank you to jai nokes again for coming out. We appreciate Jai spending time and talking to TSL and XFL with us.

Episode 11 - Is Brandon Silvers on The Bachelorette? (Ft. Josh Davis)

I thought like my body temperature normally runs it like 97, nine, and it went up to 98, 60 the other day. So I started getting. I started really worried. I was starting to get concerned just a little bit. I was like, my body doesn't normally run this hot and it's like normal temperature where every human being. But for me, 98.6 is a little bit warm. So it was like, No, I don't want this. Welcome to the XFL Mark cast. We just started off with a little conversation. Why not? There you go. Share. Paul is healthy. I went and got a COVID test actually to, uh, yesterday. The test results came back negative. We're good to go. We're good to go. I'll have to hear it. I got my well, so it's not transitioning well to the camera. I did try to iron my flag. I took it down. Michael Paine messaged me. He said, Hey dude. And I said, I know it's been on. Now I say it's been on my. On my to-do list for weeks, I ran it through that. We have like the steamer and the dryer. But now it kind of, it doesn't look, I tried, I'm trying. I mean, you know, here's the thing, like, I, I always fault you for your being your, your OCD self. I always say read is so OCD. It kind of drives me crazy. I'm not as OCD and there's a little bit, a little things here and there that I get OCD about, but read a super OCD about everything. I will, I will give you a pass on something that happened this week. Yeah. Is this is this, is this the lead story? No, I was just going to say, this is kind of the smorgasbord of episodes today. I got a lot of little stuff all over the place. I saw the Google docs out of control. All sorts of it was up. I said, do you want to lead story? I have it on. Did you know that I have it on you do have it. You wore it backwards for a reason. Do you want to show the people at home who are watching it on video? They can't really see it. Can you just take it off and actually push into the camera, take that hat and shove it in the lens there. And I want everyone that's watching this on YouTube to look at the way the XFL lines up with the white or, or the way it doesn't line up with a white it's ridiculous. It's shoddy is terrible work. And so. We have had this situation with this, with our, with our, uh, Merchant merchandise supplier. For about what this has been going on for what three weeks? Long time. So Reed has been, yeah. It's getting really close. You could see how bad that does not line up. If it looks off it's off center, like they printed it and here's the deal I've been emailing them. And, and they, they we've redesigned the whole logo. They said the lines they go, this, this logo is too complex, even though I have a million. There's a million exit foul, you know, it's our own acts. I know it's kind of whatever. But I go, it's a, it's a, you know, it's a line. And then another line, like it's all aligns. It's not, and the things they said, well, it's too complicated. We were able to digitize it, but. You know, uh, you, you really should, uh, rework your logo. I said, we have, I reworked beco in Croatia, reworked the entire logo so we can have it on the hat. I asked him, I said, do you have humans that put these hats into boxes that mail them out? And how did that ever pass quality control? I completely agree with you. And only, you know, I say read, you're being a little bit too picky on this one, but I completely co-sign your argument that I would never, ever, like, I wouldn't go to a swap beaten by that hat. That's how bad that work is. And I mean, Like it's, it's not that hard to get this right folks. And I just, I guess, Uh, yeah, we're, we're trying to get these XFL, Mark, Mark cast hats out. So you guys, but honestly, We got to get it right. And this is definitely like, we thought we had two steps forward, but now we're three steps back because it's just, it's horrendous. So we really want to get that out to you. Also, we'll talk about some other murders that we've, we've got. We got a new, we got a new shirt up that read really likes, read, complimented me on the shirt. Um, it's better than his shirts that he designed. I will say that. And he did call me the t-shirt genius Reed called me the t-shirt genius. And I will take that because read never compliments me ever, ever, ever, ever. We'll plug the shop right now. Probably the merch shop and talking about that s**t right now. Okay, so on, uh, exhale. Xcel show.com/merch. There is a new shirt in honor of, uh, Sharman Jones who has apparently taken an issue with our little joke while reads a little joke with him. Uh, he blocked all of us on Twitter. You guys know the saga by now. So I decided to have a shirt, make a shirt that basically says that I'm sure we will probably super impose the shirt. Underneath here when you watch this on YouTube. Basically, it's a roll of toilet paper. And it would have to say don't be Sharman Jones or whatever. Sharmane Jones. Don't be a Sharman Jones. The soft I wipe, I worked that out in about an hour, maybe less than an hour. It was grant not online and you can buy that now. And the XFL show.com/march. Don't be a Sharma Jones. Don't be soft. S a w F T couple other things. I want to figure out something to do with this hat down the road. We don't have to think about it today because this is like, I have all these like disaster hats. Now I have at least two of them have these like printings. So maybe we could like do a giveaway at some point a raffle, something about these hats, because they're so bad. Yeah. You know, but it is, this is like a, one of a kind, but, you know, we'll never be, never be replicated that I hope it will never be replicated. And, uh, while, while we're on the topic about merge, I wan I want to go through our new ratings that we got this week. We have some new reviews that came in and I want to talk about the mass thing too. So can we do that real quick before we go for it yet? So we had some, uh, I'm getting them upper. Now I should have had about, sorry, it wasn't a Google doc. So, uh, we had a bunch of reviews come in this week. Just a reminder. I rate this podcast.com/xfl. Or you could go to exit fell, show.com/review. And for all that is Holy. If you are an Apple podcast, user. Right now, just go on your phone. Go to your podcast out type in the XFL. Markcast. Hit subscribe, leave a review. It doesn't cost you. Anything. I love all these other random podcasts that we get reviews like pod chaser and podcast addict. I appreciate Castbox all the reviews we come in. I do appreciate them across the board. And thank you guys. But please Apple podcasts. If you have an iPhone, an iPad, any kind, if you have a Mac, just go XFL, Mark cast. Five star review takes you two seconds. Uh, we had three reviews come in this week. Uh, we had one from our good friend party. Paul Williams. And he says, Oh, Williams. He says, I miss the exit valve, the XFL Markcast gives me hope that Dwayne Johnson will save us all. Thanks for reading Paul. Hey, wait, wait, wait. I got to say something about Paul Williams has lost a tremendous amount of weight, right? Always. Good. Always. Kudos Paul. I mean, we love to just the way you were, but it's good to see you're getting healthy. We, we definitely approve of that. So, We have one from our boy. Moose midnight moose. He's got a, he inspired the Sharman Jones shirt. He's got. We're calming and a mask, a moose. I want to see photos with all your stuff. When it comes. I'm serious. Uh, one of the best podcast I've ever listened to, they really know their stuff about the XFL and they bring great guests on. I really enjoyed the coal Boozer episode that loved them all. Uh, we also have one battle Hawks fans out your boy, lonely virtual. Lonely Virgil. That's just a job. His name is Virgil, but there's a wrestler Virgil that you stay. He used to caddy for $1 million man. Right? Ted DVR. Patty. It was just like, it was kind of, it was kind of racist if we're being. Mitigate and all that Virgil. And now he's, he shows up at wrestling conventions, lonely Virgil. He says the Mark has podcast is awesome. And then, so we had for this week van, the man, our number one fan and van IOU, amass to. So, if you're listening to this, you just go ahead and text me. Fan talk with great gas read. And Paul are fans first content producer. Second. I don't know if that's a gig or what. I think that I think that's a very good compliment. Okay. Very professional patter between the host re uh, Paul has the LA vibe in contrast to read with that Northwest laid back style. So that's van, the man and van. You just send me a text and let me know where to send your mass. We'll see if he's listening to the episode. Maybe, maybe not, who knows? 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Call your friends, you get it. I appreciate it. And we're done with all the Plex. So we got crooked hat. We're going to figure out, and then we've got the rate, the podcast. Yep. And we told some interesting stories in the plugs too. So it's not all plugs. It's definitely not all plugs. So let's start off the podcast with, uh, it is pouring rain outside. I thought it was like, cause. My friends were commenting. They're like, what's what is the Sonic booms going on outside her house and was like, apparently Seattle's having a thunderstorm. And for someone who lived there for like, what two years, and you've lived there all your life. Thunderstorms don't really ever happen in Seattle. Anyway, if Rosie comes in Malibu the apology. Alright, so we got a lot of staff, the popery today. Where do you want to start? Paul? Uh, well, I mean, we're talking about political things and I guess we should start off with the, uh, the big topic that happened on vice. And I know you had your thoughts on the whole vice situation. This is the thing. So people are going crazy about, you know, the kneeling thing, that political thing. Our players are going to be allowed to kneel rock and Danny, Danny, and the rock we're on a stick to sports to talk about this. I had seen the clip. They posted like a little minute and a half clip. And I thought, all right, the episode's going to air. I actually felt podcasts. I need to watch this thing and be apprised of it. My rant today is not political and all because it is all about, I literally couldn't watch the episode ball. I couldn't watch it. I know if you guys came here today, one insights about I don't got him. I got nothing. It couldn't. vice.com had the wrong episode. One, the thing to load it. It was like, uh, felons getting their lives back together, which is great. But that's just not the episode. The one you want to watch on that on you. Literally couldn't get, I was trying to do the Xfinity login because, um, I did get YouTube TV last week. Vice is not on YouTube TV. So I use my mom's log-in on Xfinity X affinity. It would just keep reloading real volume reloading. And I tried to do a free pass. And that they would say, I don't know, I got no insights. I had the same issue when dark side of the ring came out with vice TV where it was like, I wanted to watch one episode. It kept giving me like the macho man Elizabeth episode. I'm like, ah, come on, man. What is this? This is nonsense. So vice fix your app bros. Seriously, man. He really needed to get it together. So anyway, I know people it's probably honestly better not to talk about it. Because it's just, people are getting really heated about the whole stick to the sports thing. I don't. I think. I think you're right to yell at people to play sports. They have the same right. To use their voice, to not play sports. You know what I mean? I think we all have voices, but yeah, we can't even get into it today. Cause literally vice TV socks. I tweeted at them with the verify, the count. I said, WTF is wrong with your website. And I heard nothing back. So maybe their social media isn't working too well either. I just think the idea of shut up and dribble as, uh, Laura Ingram told LeBron James to shut up and dribble. She doesn't really take into account what LeBron James has done for Akron, Ohio, specifically where he's put the school though. The I promise school in it's like, These athletes should be encouraged to give back to their communities and the way they see fit. And that's, that's my personal opinion. I'm not trying to be liberal or conservative here. I'm just saying, if we say, for example, when they bash Hollywood people for, uh, Or for example, holding the batch, the rock for endorsing Joe Biden, they turn around and they like retweet James Woods. And Dean came and Scott beyo, these conservative voices, like, no, no, no, no. If you want. All the entertainers to shut up and just entertain you. You have to do it across the board, conservative or liberal. So. Without taking into account the things that. LeBron James has done in Akron. Uh, the things Colby did for women's basketball. These kinds of things you need to take into account. When, when you're, before you say stuff like, Oh, keep it off the playing field because they're free to do whatever they want. And they have a reach that can bring awareness to items that maybe were not paying attention to. So. Yeah. So anyway, but yeah, basically long story short. A rock and Danny are gonna let people, Neil are going to let people do whatever they want. I mean, I did glisten that from the two minute clip that they posted on. I think it was like Instagram or Twitter itself. Uh, that is very important to the rock. He has said that he feels as though, um, if you disagree with somebody or somebody is hurting, you know, you need to talk to them and listen to them and find that out. And so that is what they are trying to do. I don't think this is going to be some crazy political league. I just think they're really going to try to support the players the best they can. And that involves money and health and wellness and all those, everything that you want. If you care about football, if you want the players to be able to play and be healthy and happy and all those things that we all do. That's all this is. And I really do think that I don't think that they're bringing politics into it. I just think it is, they're just letting it, you know, supporting their players. So did you add things to the Google doc wall? I was like, Chilling and not paying attention. Not, not since we recorded. Okay, cool. Just making sure. Cause I just see this chat out to a single tweet that I didn't see before. And apparently he's putting in work at the gym friend of the show, Chad Ochocinco. This is so. I need to play this, or do you want to play? We just need the audio from this chat. Just ain't go fan of the show. He's been on the show episode two. Chad does your sinker. I follow him now, you know, because if he is a fan of the show, right? Yeah. He leads a very interesting life. He has hit the gym a lot and he's always in like, Really formal attire, like a bowling shirt with like gym shorts today. He is in full khakis. Am I. Tucked in shirt. And then he's got this church music playing in the background play. You got to hear that. Yeah. He's an interesting dude. So always just think of, anyway, I just had to share that he is he's at the gym putting in his time he's got full khakis. He's got his mask, but the other day he was in like this formal bowling shirt, like all buttoned up, like lifting. Like 300 pounds. I was part of this, the best part of this is the comments. Like someone says elite workout gear, and then L daddy says I'll only wear shorts. A certain material will make to give Jim, meanwhile, my meds is out here. Slaying in them, cholo, slim fits. The carpets are just great on this stuff. It's just a more banter. Give chat a fall. But yeah, I figured that, I didn't know this morning. I saw it. I saw him, uh, him doing that, so, okay. I'm glad I'm not. I'm like, please don't add things to the Google doc after we've already started. This was all this morning. All right. Uh, let's get into some XFL talks since we've, we've kind of like, well, when we talked about Danny and the rock. About the kneeling thing, but, uh, let's do you want to do an overlook update? Yeah. So where is that? I've got that going. So apparently. A former commissioner asked a federal court to lift the stay on his lawsuit against Vince McMahon for the over $23 million. He argues that now those XFL cell has gone 60 days past, it should be able to restart the lawsuit should be able to restart. Is it, is it officially 60 days already? That, that the sale's gone through because I thought. Turn over. Yeah, but the sale was August. Yeah, cause it's yea. Cause he was like an August, August 20, whatever. And then September we it's almost November ball. I know. I'm fully aware. It's Scorpio season's right around the corner. Trust. And I'm doing my luck's coming for his money now. He's coming. It's almost slinkies power walking to ring. Man sound coming for his money. It's great. So. This is. So I think now I know the first couple of weeks we did the, all her life check-in and then I think he was being really quiet because they have everything. I think there's going to be some big news coming out from this now, because I think luck is. You know, the sales done. All of her kids said, you know, let the sale go through. My beef is with McMahon. You know, that's like when, like you have a tag team, Like, I don't want you I'm coming for that guy. And he said, let the sale go through rock and Danny go by this. I'm coming for Vance. And I'm coming from my 26 million. And that is what is happening. That's good. I'm I'm, I'm hoping that that comes to a resolution really soon here. So this is like, I just, I saw that tweet and I thought I heard Jim Ross. F**k on that's offered lots of music. Coming out of the ring with a steel chair. Of course, obviously. So, yeah, but I do think there's going to be big news about all of her luck and Vincent van coming out now soon. I think, I think that's just going to settle this out of court. I don't think it's going to go too much longer, to be honest with you. There's just no point there's, there's literally no point in dragging this thing out because it's clear that Vince is probably. Uh, Culpable in this situation. So yeah. Anyway. Yeah. I think he messed up. I think we talked about this before, how poorly everything was handled. I will never understand why he didn't just pay off, you know, not pay off all of our lock, but maybe just try to figure out some sort of settlement than just you're fired. I mean, I know that in salons, You're fine. But you can't. When you're talking about hiring and firing your ex about commissioner, you can't do that stuff. For the tune of $100 million or whatever, over five years, it just doesn't work that way. So we got Josh Davis from XFL news hub coming up on the, uh, coming up on the Mar cast. Test here in a few minutes, but we want to discuss about the XFL and the st. Louis. Visitors and convention. Convention and visitor's commission. I don't know why I switched those two up. I was just trying to like make it shorter, but it didn't end up working out in my mind. Let me see, I was like, what is the CVC? Oh, the convention in whatever thing. It's Renton. And. Vision is commission. Apparently XFL was already in talks with them about leasing the dome out again. Yeah, which is good. Uh, and Josh was talking about this we've reported in the past, uh, on Josh. Oh, keep going. Are you scared of me? Keep going. I got to tell a story, keep going. Okay. Uh, Josh, uh, we've talked about Josh's articles. Excuse me in the past about him reporting in about Raymond James stadium and the lease and all that sort of stuff. And so it'll be interesting now that the, that the st. Louis Ochsner on, um, you know, they're talking about coming back to the dome, that Josh will be onto to talk about that stuff. Cause Josh does a lot of research for the Nissan. Um, About all the leases and all that stuff. So, uh, Paul has a story. Ooh. Lord. This is a good one too. We'll deal with the XFL. This is great. I love going off on these tangents. If you listen to wheelhouse, you'll know that I love to go off on tangents. It's coming in the door. You looked over to the computer. I saw the, I saw the byline on this article that you sent me from the st. Louis post dispatch. And you should, my face went just as red as my shirt. And that's why I put my finger up was like, Note, this. So Jim Thomas is the writer on this article. And I need to say this because. Uh, this is, this is a long time coming back. When the Rams were in st. Louis, the Rams used to practice out here. In LA that's where they used to do. They're like warmup camps and stuff like that. Not, and now they can't do that because the Cowboys already have the contract out of here. Anyway, long story short, we went to Rams training camp before it was announced. I think it was like right when they were announced they're coming out here or some kind of issue was going on. Where they're about to come back out to LA. And Jim Thomas was there and Jim Thomas was one of the most unprofessional people I've ever dealt with in my life, in this business. I went out there for work. You didn't go out there. You know, like a Rams fan Watson. I was there with a camera and read, you know how short I am. I'm not tall. I'm five, nine. I wear lifts. I've admitted to this. But this Jim Thomas Guy, um, I SA I was sitting there with a camera trying to get, uh, what's his name? The head coach, the old head coach of the Cowboys. Uh, no, I'm sorry. The old head coach of the Rams, Jeff Fisher, I was trying to get, uh, an angle on Jeff Fisher. And I said, sir, could you please walk to the side just a little bit? And he laid into me with a barrage of F words. And then stuck his head right in the middle of my lens. And I was trying to move around to get it, and I just couldn't get it. And afterward he kept talking to me and he said, if you wanted to go out in the parking lot, I was like, dude, this isn't about that. So anyway, I saw a byline. This Jen Thomas. This guy, this fricking guy right here. Wow. He covers the blues hockey for the st. Louis Post-Dispatch it's him. I remember his name. I looked him up and I went at him on Twitter afterward. Like I don't let go of grudges. Reid knows this. I still don't like this guy. Cause I just think that's really unprofessional. It takes you like you are a newspaper writer. You don't need to be in front of a camera lens. We need video. You do not, you did not have your iPhone up. You got your pen and paper, like an old school reporter, which I, which I. I give you props for doing it old school, but don't stick your head in from the lens. Sorry, Jim Thomas. Not a fan. It's like we, yeah, we used to do reports and yeah, you have your video camera and then you just give a person with San two inches away. When the person you're trying to interview. Called their microphone. Can you please? Can you please stand. Can you please, like your medium doesn't require as much space as mine, and I'm not trying to say I'm more important than you. But in this case, like, Eat more space than you do. The shadow on whoever you were interviewing and I'm, I'm sorry, I'm five foot nine. I can't help that. You are. So it's left. You were so upset. You broke zoom there. You, you glitched. Glitched out for a minute. Audio audio and video podcasts. Listeners will know this, that Paul broke zoom for a second. That was crazy. Zoom cause I was so angry at Jim Thomas. I'm not, well, I'm probably still a little angry because it was just really unprofessional moment. You've been doing this, bro. I'll leave that in because that was good for the video and no edits, but yeah, you broke. That was awesome. Should we get to go out and shirt on, on, should we get a no edits shirt on? XFL show.com/merch. I think we should. So this is a, this is a total tangent. Um, when we shoot weddings, Generally we'll shoot. Me and my assistant will each have two cards, a piece, you know, we'll do like the first half of the day on the car and then, then we'll do the second half, but it's just a ton of footage. You're trying to upload everything. You're trying to keep track of the cards, whether, you know, when you get done with the day. And so the goal is always the one card wedding where we each only have one card that we, and [unknown]. People I'm sure. Like you need to have backups and all that. I have like a hundred dollar SD cards. They're fine. They're really reliable. They're fine. But the one memory card wedding is the dream and the no edit episode of the Markcast those are like equal in my mind. I'm just small little victories. Neck, neck and neck. We're going to, we're going to take a break right now. Pay some bills coming back. We're gonna talk to jugs, just Davis from the XFL news hub. I like your guardians Jersey. Well, thank you. Guardians fan a dragons fan and a wild cats fan. All on the same call here. This is interesting. I was going to have to offer. My condolences for you and your Philadelphia Eagles. Yeah. Just give you a hug for that. You guys, uh, it hasn't been going this season. A watch. Not, not very good. Not very good. Uh, we played too poorly. Uh, for, for the two too much of the game, the other day to, to really be able to come back. So. Uh, you know, but that's been a telltale of the season so far too many injuries and we can't play very well if we don't have guys in there that are consistently playing. So. In hindsight, do you keep Nick Foles around? No. I mean, we haven't needed for me. We haven't needed a backup and a healthy Carson Wentz is better than Nick Foles. Foles was playing with a, with a, uh, Um, yeah. Foles was playing with a limited playbook. And that'll last a few weeks, you know, but it won't last a full season playing with a limited playbook. So. Okay. Well, the bears. Um, yep. The only play two weeks. Let's see how you're doing in week 16, 17, you know, That's fine. I will definitely say so. I kind of want to tie, you know, so we've been chatting lines. How did you get involved in all this XFL staff? I mean, I know you're a football guy, you know, the Eagles. And we talked about you having your podcast to cease and desist with the Philadelphia Eagles, all that stuff. How'd you get involved in all of the XFL stuff. Man, I'll tell you the way that, uh, um, the way I do things, when it comes to my writing and all that, I kind of liked the stuff that's on the fringe. You know, it's real easy to write about the NFL. It's pretty easy to write about college football. Everybody's doing it. Uh, but when I started doing this at a, um, at pigskin, not, which is actually where I've been for the last few years, help them, you know, helping them get off the ground and all that still with them. Uh, it's, it's kind of a, like a. No, not a hobby, but I'm not getting anything from it except for experience. So, uh, but that's what I would write because we had people to write about NFL. We have people to write about college. I would re I, we started this in 2018, over there. AAF was just about the startup. So, you know, I, I started doing a whole lot of stuff on the AAF and then that went down and in the XFL came around and I write about the major league football because I'm friends with the CEO over there. So when it comes to stuff like this, especially guys that. The players that may not be in the NFL, but have the talent to, and get these opportunities. That's what I want to write about. I want to write about the stuff that, that might help somebody else. It's not going to help. Uh, Carson Wentz for me to write an article about him. Uh, you know, given my analysis on the game. You know, it's not going to help him do that. But I might be able to do something for a guy. I'm just throwing his name out there. Cause he just had a try out and I did do an interview with him. Uh, the other day or a couple of weeks ago, but a guy like Toby Johnson. The more times that people write about these guys that aren't in the league. It may be maybe a guy will. If I've got the right guy on my timeline, you know, if I've got the right followers, somebody might see, you know, Oh, he is working out. Oh, he is still doing stuff. Well, let's get this guy in here for a workout because he did. He did do something, uh, you know, in the league. So, you know, I might be able to help something out. I might be able to get more exposure for the a seven FL that's another league that I write for. I might be able to get a little bit more exposure from major league football. So, you know, stuff like that, I might be able to be able to get something going and plus to be completely honest. I've got probably a better shot. At writing full time. For spring Lake. Then I do the NFL or college. So, you know, I'm devoting my time to, to that may sickly. I do write about other, other things. The articles I talked to you about last night that I pumped out to in an hour that was on two college teams that I follow. So. Uh, but you know, what I want to do is, is to bring. Oh, awareness to these other leads and, uh, um, you know, and maybe not a lot of people know, know about them. So. You know, it's, it's a, um, it's a passion of mine. I like the fringe stuff. I grew up with the USFL, my, my, uh, aunt and uncle live in Jacksonville. So I got to go to a couple of Jacksonville bulls games and I liked that. And their wedding been anything like that for a while. So, you know, I kinda, I kinda liked the things that not everybody likes. So. Good to hear. Good to hear. And I mean, in that fact of like, you know, being a writer is always like polishing or craft and there, there's definitely a chance. Like if you, if you do a well enough job covering these other leads, And covering the college teams that you said you covered, you know, a time timer too. There's also a chance that you could be called up in, you know, called to write for someone else and do NFL coverage and stuff. That's a good thing to do. Those skills sharp. Uh, as I saw, there was some comments chatter today that sports illustrated article came out with Danny and, and talking about that, you know, expansion. Uh, you know, this whole talk happens again, you know, expanding the teams. Are we expanding the brand? What does that mean? What is your take on that? Are we getting more teams? Are we getting, you know, a pre-show things happen before the season? What do you want to see? Well, uh, expansion was always on the table. Uh, even before the bankruptcy, they were talking to other cities about possible expansion or relocation. So they, the league was always doing it. P*****k has got so many things going on out there. Uh, and it's so great that he's still involved with the new owners. So, you know, because he's, he's bringing all that experience and that, that relationship with the cities, uh, that, that he already made, uh, last year, uh, with the new guy. So, you know, it's a, it's a big thing. I think personally, when it comes to what she's talking about with expansion is expanding the audience. Expanding the coverage. Uh, expanding the, the, uh, um, The presence of the XFL. Because first season. Back from a bankruptcy like this. It's not going to be very easy to convince cities to, to bring in new teams, you know, especially like, like, you know, what was said on there. That's uh, Uh, there was a struggle with some of the cities. Uh, to get fans and to produce. So, um, You know, I think that's, uh, Uh, expansion is on its way. They really love the cities like San Antonio in Birmingham. Uh, you could see a third Texas team eventually. I think it will be second, third season before you really see expansion, more teams added. Uh, but the, uh, the, the Birmingham public loved the iron when they were there for the AAF and a big time football fans are there. Uh, and they've got no probs. You know, they've got, they've got no big time pro league there. So I think that that's San Antonio in Birmingham would be the first two cities that I would think about, uh, for an actual expansion. But when she's talking about it in this interview, uh, with SSI, Uh, I, I, I really think she's meaning to expanding the audience, expanding the, you know, The visual of it. Uh, and, you know, expanding the brand and not necessarily bringing on more teams. Uh, you know, they're not fielded the season yet under that ownership. So, um, you know, they were talking at one time, a hard knocks type, uh, show, and that's again, expanding the audience, trying to get more people in. So I think that's more what she was talking about. Do you think relocation could help expand the audience for example? Uh, we've discussed in the podcast before that. Uh, Life. Isn't the greatest place to play. And maybe moving the guardians out to like the red bulls arena. You know where the New York. New York, New Jersey red bulls play. Would be an it. It would be an ideal thing. Do you think that maybe moving some teams around might expand the audience? I think it could, uh, it would put, I personally, I didn't like the idea of having XFL teams in NFL markets. I didn't like that. Uh, primarily because people in those markets had already spent their money on NFL. Uh, yeah. You would have some people who couldn't afford to go to NFL games that could come. Uh, to these games, but when, when you're in big markets like that, there's just, like you said, the Guardian's played in MetLife. That was too big of a place. Uh, you know, it holds over 80 and 12 to 15 were coming, you know, and that's, uh, That's a lot of space there. Ah, that's open. And so it's not that, you know, you need to worry about it looking like it's empty, but for the players and for the fans, it's, it's, it's kind of gaudy. And, uh, uh, you know, in surprisingly it wasn't even one of the most expensive leases that they had. Uh, it was, uh, uh, st. Louis was, was the most expensive lease, but I think that, uh, moving a team, if they did decide to do that, uh, you know, would help with some of the audience depending on where they go, if they did move to, to where the, uh, MLS team plays a, it wouldn't be much of a relocation that would just be, you know, a new stadium in the same area, but say they took Dallas and moved them to San Antonio, or they took LA and they moved them to Birmingham. Something like that. Maybe, you know, like they were talking about at one time, Tampa moving to Orlando. You know, that's a, that's a little bit of a different story. Cause that's hours away, you know, that's, that's a time, you know, away, but these were things that were being talked about, uh, before the, the league. File for bankruptcy. So, um, you could see some teens. Being relocated, but I'll tell you that they've kind of put that with the Tampa Bay that I just mentioned to Orlando, it kind of put that to sleep because, uh, um, one of the contracts, one of the leases that was, uh, uh, They put in a motion to have, uh, you. Uh, assumed in assigned by the new ownership was for Raymond James stadium. So they're looking to play there again. In 2022. So, but like, like, like what was released yesterday, they're in talks with all the cities to bring the team the team's back because I think they want to do something different. Uh, with the new ownership, see if they can do something on their own to get attendance up, uh, before they start moving people. I do since they already had the relationships there. I do think that the Seattle. The Seattle market is definitely the exception to the rule in terms of having an XFL team in a NFL market already. We, you know, we discussed before. Super saturated. Now we have two NFL teams. We have USC, we have UCLA and you know, we've discussed it before that maybe LA you're talking about Birmingham, I've thrown out. San Diego would be a much better alternative. For the wild cats, but, uh, it'll be interesting to see for sure. It's interesting. You were talking about, you know, Danny and expanding. And I was watching, um, the, the video, like this word sales started, you know, they have the article and then they have this really nice video put together. I've kinda talking about. Uh, Danny and acquiring the league and expanding and how they're really in her mind trying to expand that female demographic that she was saying that there's only 30 or 35% female. And that most of them are either kind of born into it where, you know, their family watched football or, you know, they're dating or married somebody. And that's, you know, Paul and I have joked on here the last couple of weeks. You know, Dorothy, my wife. We've watched all the games this season now kind of, you know, cause we're doing this podcast and watch more NFL and that's the same example right. Of her being kind of. You know, brought into that through me and not necessarily finding it herself. I mean, what do you, what do you think about that and ideas that Danny would have to, you know, reach new, to get women involved that maybe would find it on their own, because that is a heavy task, right? I mean, this is something that. I struggled with for a hundred years, you know? Yeah. You know, there's a, uh, um, uh, I don't remember the name and it would be, take me too long to, to look it up, but a WWE NBA player and her daughter just bought into AI. National women's soccer league. Yes. Uh, yeah, they, they just bought into, to a national women's soccer league team and, uh, um, you know, that's huge. Um, because, you know, I kinda think, you know, I've got to put it two and two together that I've got to think that. What Danny has done with the XFL. Kind of sparked that guy. I'm not saying that that Parker didn't want to do it beforehand, but I think that this is like, you know what, I'm gonna do this, you know, because of what I see over here, I'm going to do that. And I'm a father of daughters, so I always try to make sure that's, uh, Um, you know, These types of influences are there because there's not a whole lot. If you get some people, especially in sports. Uh, their, their athletes, their players, uh, for, for these girls to look up to now, Danny and somebody that's in ownership. You know, and that's, that's a completely different animal. You know, you can, you can strive to be an athlete and that's something that you can do on many different levels. But when you strive to try to be and try to do something, make a Mark, like Danny has, that's a whole different animal. So I think that, you know, this is really good. Uh, for the, for the girls and young women that are growing up right now and watching everything that's going on. And I think that it will spark an interest for more. Uh, more women to try to get into ownership because. It is an old boy's club. We know that. But she has shown that it can be done. And I think that that's big, cause that might be something that's in the back of the mind is some of these women who can make moves like that. Cause they're out there, uh, that, uh, uh, you know, what. Maybe. Yeah. Exactly. And maybe it's not such a bad idea. I always make this joke though. You talk about women that are in the sport. You know, that that kind of were born into it or married into it or whatever. I kind of make this joke all the time that there are two women that will be the most powerful women in the NFL. And that is Rooney Mara and her sister, Kate Mara. If you don't know who they are outside of being actresses they're grandparents are the roomies and the Maras. They are in giants and Steelers ownership right now, both. So it's like, they're, uh, uh, there'll be, there'll be some of the most powerful women in the NFL, whether they want to be, or not, eventually the teams will go to them. So, you know, you're, you're going to have to watch out for that. It was just funny listening to that, the Danny thing. Cause she was saying. Yeah, she does all this stuff. And then she goes, and then I managed Wayne. Like she's the one that kind of man. You know, they never went. Okay. It's the rock. And then like the ex-wife then she goes, no, I mandate CHAM. Like I have all these other things I'm doing. It was just interesting in how she had done, um, you know, a week's worth of research. And then she was the one that called up Dwayne, and I know we've kind of re it's been reported before. It was just kind of cool to see her talk that scenario through how she was. Put the research together, spent the time called Dwayne. And he said, okay. As opposed to like, you know, it was some like the rocks grand idea, you know, Yeah. You know, that, that was, uh, um, if anybody watched the vice episode, they talked about that, talked about how it came about that she sent the text message to Dwayne and Dwayne was like, usually she says, when you get a chance, can we talk? But this time she's like, we need to talk now. And, uh, um, you know, he got on any. I'm in, you know, and that's that's, I think that maybe my background and maybe the fact that I am a father of daughters, you won't see me really say anything about Danny being an ex wife. Or Dwayne being an ex-husband in my, in my articles. If I do, it's just for reference. Uh, and I almost always put Danny's name first. You know, because she is the driving force. She was the idea behind this. It wasn't Jerry Carter and all from Redbird. Uh, it wasn't Dwayne, that, that came up with this idea. It was her. She did all, like you said, all the research, all the market. Uh, All the market research and everything, and then contacted them and like this, do this, you know? So, uh, um, no, it's, it's, it's a big thing, uh, for, for everybody because these. You know, it's, it's not just, uh, um, you know, it's not just them in this because they had told them that they're trying to breed the, make a legal culture and trying to make sure that the players know that they're going to be taken care of, you know? Cause that's, that's the reason they're there as a players and I'm not really ever heard an owner that I really believed. Uh, do you know, say that, uh, but the rock, you know, he said in that interview too, had a league like this been around when he was playing. Uh, you know, his, his career might've, might've lasted a little bit longer and that's what he wants to offer to, uh, to other players. So, you know, him and Danny being in there and doing that, you know, getting this together and getting this going. I don't think it could have, could have happened any better for the exit for though. I really don't out of everybody that I thought about that could have been a potential owner. Uh, It couldn't have gotten any better than what they got now. Completely agree. Uh, before we let you go, I want to get your thoughts on the spring league. You know, it's going to be kicking off next week. I know you're covering the conquerors. We're not going to hold that against you here as we are diehard Jasmine. Uh, but, but I want to hear, what have you been hearing lately? I know you've been reaching out to people, trying to get some more. Information for the league. So walk me through that or walk us through that before. You got to go to that. Well, uh, you know, we saw late, uh, yesterday, or sometime during the afternoon that there were some coaches that didn't, uh, didn't necessarily make the list that are there. Uh, you know, Classic coaches. And I'm not talking about just guys who were big in the XFL, but we're talking about dudes that, you know, the names of from everything else, June Jones and Mike Singletary, those guys were there helping out with different teams. We saw June Jones with the conquer shirt on yesterday and I'm like, dude, We got Glanville and we got June. It's over. You might as well just put it down. We've got that championship, you know, so, uh, um, You know, it's. You're seeing now. Uh, to shift gears a little bit. You're seeing now with the Quincy flowers thing, that Quentin flowers that you know, he's not been seen yet. Uh, you know, there are going to be some players and I can't really get into detail on this, but they're going to be some players who were listed as chosen. Uh, that either changed their mind or something else came up. Uh, so as we get closer to gain, you'll see some players get replaced. We've already seen a couple of releases. Where, uh, uh, guys were chosen to kind of fill in holes. You know, you're going to see some of that. Uh, unfortunately I know that I would've, even though he wouldn't, he wasn't going to be on the, on the conquerors. I would've liked to have seen flowers. I love watching him play. That's one of the reasons why I'm so excited about just the mill and I love that type of quarterback. So, uh, um, you know, so, you know, there's going to be some players that are there that we're going to be listed in some though we're going to be excited about watching that aren't going to be there and that's normal for a camp. I don't want anybody to think that that's anything that's outlandish, but that's normal for a camp like this. And I don't want to. Uh, downgrade the spring league, but that's what they are there camps. So a guy's come here and they, and they try to get exposed. And it was really good for the XFL last year, because they were able to, to use some rules and test out some rules at the XFL ended up using. And a lot of players from the spring league ended up playing in the XFL. And there are some that made it to the NFL. They're on rosters right now that played in previous spring leaks. And some of our guys are just now realizing that Japan has an American football league over there. So. Uh, getting a lot of exposure for these guys and I love to see it. I should have some more information in the next couple of days about everything else that's going on there. And, uh, you know, I'll get it out as soon as I can. You would definitely be able to find it on the XFL news hubs. So, um, You know, we'll, uh, we'll get it as much and as quickly as possible. Uh, but that's really all that we really have. We just know that, uh, games that are not going to be on Fs one will not be streamed anywhere. The league told me that. Uh, in a message. So, uh, um, You know, we'll, uh, uh, we'll see exactly what happens when it comes to that. So, Um, They may end up changing their mind because there's a lot of people who, uh, uh, the app decided it wanted to open up halfway through this thing. So, uh, but, um, that's okay. Uh, yeah. Sorry. Uh, but, uh, you know, they may end up changing their mind. There's a lot of people calling for one of these games streams. So hopefully, uh, we'll at least maybe be able to see something on a delay, but I don't know. Yeah. I was going to say I'm excited. My God, anybody you talk to get, um, uh, streaming me, is that the other games, the other, uh, it's at least half of them or whatever. I said, I said, point I, you tweeted or someone, I said, point a camera at the field like they do in high school. And just let it go and just put it on. Yeah, or whatever. There's no reason not to get those going. So, yeah, absolutely. There's not. Alright, Josh Davis. XFL news hub. Thanks for joining us today. We appreciate your time. Thanks for having me guys. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Go bonkers. Hang guardians. Uh, how did we get. There we go. Amen. Alright, man. Thanks guys. Oh, that's good. We did that together now is cute. Paul simultaneous. I just had a moment where we both put our hands up to the cameras and blacked it out. So I would know to be able to edit the Josh's segment that we were in sync that, that moment. Cause we'll just like, let's make it, let's make the screen entirely blacked out. So read as easily. You. You know, cause he does the video. I do the audio. Uh, read can easily find out where we took our break. So, so. Josh was great. I'm so glad he came on. I mean, this I've listened to the new sub sense, uh, forever ago. I've listened to all of them since before. The first XFL and all that. So it's cool. You know, I follow Josh on Twitter. I read all the articles and, and so it was, it was cool to get to talk with them. And, uh, big fan here. I listened to Mark. We met Mark his boss. We met Mark in DC at Walter's. We've talked about that on the podcast. So. Yes. Yes. One of the friends of the show though, we're moving on to more XFL news and this is kind of XFL, NFL related, I guess. One of the friends of the show. Moose Gibson had an article on XFL board about quarterbacks that could help the Cowboys. And yeah. I don't know if you've seen the meme of the guy crying and the woman whispering sweet nothings in his ear. Uh, I've made a tweet about it. She's asking if they're still Dem Boyz. Cause you know, that's their little weed and boys and then, you know, it can end up flailing. Yeah. So I watched the game on Monday. Uh, we, I was so confused. I, you know, I'm a new NFL guy. Dorothy, and I are driving home from Spokane on Sunday. I've got the YouTube TV on my phone. We're watching, um, Aaron Rodgers. A skid destroyed by Brady I, that was a crazy game, but I keep seeing, you know, the chiefs and that the cheese and the bills are playing at one 30 in the afternoon. Our time. Cause I might go look. Certainly that must be no, because the, the money. Football game is the Cowboys and the whoever the Cardinals. And you know, I know Jay now, cause he's a fan of the podcast. I know he's a huge Cowboys fan, but you can't tell me in a world where that is more prestigious game of these two coming off of Dak Prescott's injury, the Cowboys, all these, all these things, right. Well, I mean, yeah, I mean the Kansas city matchup was definitely more of like a, it had really good teams involved, but they're not going to switch up the time slots. I know. Cause they had moved the one games, anybody. So I'm tweeting what's going on. Like Mitchell says, Hey, okay. They moved at Jeff. I too. We did a jazz man. Shelly. I said, you know what is going on? Leo Chetty. Right. Once I say what is going on anyway. So they, everyone informed me. Okay. It was because of COVID. They gave us supposed to be on Thursday and then they moved it to Monday. Anyway, so we have the stage set, Cowboys, Cardinals, I'm all in for my boy J Noakes. And man they saw. Any of this game, they was. I'm not a Cowboys fan. A of course, Casey at work is a huge Cowboys fan. She has an autograph Deion, Sanders Jersey, autograph dagger. As you like Casey, the work the reporter I had normally always work with is a huge Cowboys fan. She's like I wanted to turn it off, but I couldn't. It's bad in Dallas. Yeah. Andy Dalton. Yes. He's like trying to get the ball away. Yeah. So yeah, moose came out. He's a fan, he's getting his Charmaine Jones shirt. He came out and I got a lot of thoughts on this article. So do you want to start, or do you want, we'll go with the best. Let's go with your thoughts. I mean, he named some names, Brandon Silver's I know you have some thoughts on that one. Man. I tweeted at him yesterday. The second I see this article. The first name, brand stuff. I go moose. Of course. Moose loves brand silvers. Anytime I talk trash about him online, and we've got another brand in silver story later, we'll talk about on the podcast. Um, LA's Brandon silvers can't get enough of him. I don't know. Moose loves them. I will say though, my, my one complaint about this is as good as Brandon silvers is he talked about Brandon Silver's resolve and the O even though all the people were chanting, we want BJ, you know, cause Brandon Silver's came out. He wasn't that great. The crowd in Seattle at the Dragon's wanted BJ Daniels. When they finally put in BJ Daniels, Brandon Silver's did have a super huge chip on his shoulder, sat down, got Patty. So, and I was there, like I saw it. So I'm just saying, you know, as, as even keel, the silvers is, I think he is a good guy. I think he's got a pretty level head. He did get a little butt hurt. As I probably would too, if I was a starting quarterback and I got benched, but he did get a little butt hurt when they put in BJ Diego. So I just want that the record to show that another one that moose listed was Quintin flowers. Of course, Josh Davis mentioned him Quinton's and exciting player. That would be a great, that would be a great pickup potentially. That would probably be V pickup the Cowboys. Could do, I'm gonna throw out another name after we're done talking about this. Well, so here's the whole deal too, with Quintin. So Quinn, my boy was supposed to be the jealousy there's QB. And so this goes back. So when they, when they, uh, when that meme came out about the Cowboys and the guy crying in the woman, consoling them, I saw Quentin flowers post on there he goes, Hey, I'm a free agent right now. If, if you need me right. As like on Twitter and yeah. Did his thing. And I thought, well, that's really weird because he's supposed to be in San Antonio right now. Get ready for the spring league. And I don't know what the cost is to pay the play in the spring league. What is it called? What do you, what do you think it costs $1,000? Maybe 2,500. Yeah. Okay. So I'm like, well, that's really weird that, you know, if you're paying to be in this thing, I mean, obviously the NFL would be a way bigger thing. I just thought it was weird that he used the words. Yeah, I'm a free agent here. Well, I think anybody in the spring league is technically a free agent. But then he didn't show up in San Antonio. So he wasn't even in, cause they. That's what I'm saying. So he was supposed to be our QB with the Jazzers, you know, we're all in, uh, I think the hashtag is a gentleman's dual. I love that. And, uh, but Quentin flowers is, I think he's out of the spring league. Huh. Crazy. Just like that. Maybe just, maybe he's getting a startup, a backup job somewhere, maybe potentially. Well, I, all I know is I thought when they announced Quintin flowers for the spring league, I thought here's a guy that really pushed. He was on the Vipers. We talked about this last week on the podcast that he didn't get the playing time. They kept putting them as Ronnie back. They had Taylor or Cornelius and they had Aaron Murray. They wouldn't give him the time he. Uh, asked for his release, got moved around, ended up staying in Tampa. Maybe he's maybe he's a little thumb. I don't know. Maybe, maybe something's going on. Yeah. I thought maybe it was the, you know, sometimes it's the facility or sometimes it's the team you're on and then sometimes it's the person you are, and maybe it was a little bit more of the person you are then the team you're on. I don't know. I'm just saying he's got quitting on here. Huge explosive. Um, that, that the spring league news report forgive me for their Twitter handle. They posted, uh, the highlights of all the Jazzers offense. I thought the week put it out. It was so well put together. I thought that Lee put it out, but it was all Quintin flowers and running TDS and all this stuff. I retweeted that. I thought, man, that's my team. So well put together, I literally thought the spring league and put that out, but now I might, I'll be for not if Quentin flowers isn't with us. So we'll, I guess we'll find out soon because they're, they're practicing right now. So, uh, potentially, and another couple quarterbacks that, uh, uh, that were mentioned here, Luis Perez from the guardians originally from the Wildcats. I know he was the first pick ever for the XFL Wildcats. Um, I don't know if he's got the stats to back up a, a potential spot in Dallas. Three touchdown passes in three games. Uh, I don't know if that's, you know, you get, you get more than one touchdown, an XFL game. You might be able to get a call as a backup, but I don't know if he's going to get a call and of course. Uh, Josh Johnson for the Wildcats. Um, he's 34, but he only threw, he threw 11 touchdowns in a five X of all games. Again, the stats are better. And Josh Johnson's favor. I don't know if moose is more, uh, more leaning toward the guardians in a sense, maybe, maybe a little bit of bias, but. Well, he, uh, they thought that if the league had come, you know, if it went ended, everyone was on PJ Walker, Josh. Josh Johnson got the slow start. They thought that that would have been neck and neck for the MVP of the league, because Josh was just, just picking up. They just had that huge game against the Vipers. Uh, where they, you know, they won, but he was like 35 to 39%, some crazy score. But that was when he was really coming alive. And then it was that next week that everything stopped. So, you know, Johnson was on the rise. PJ Walker was up there, but yeah, so who knows, but, um, I think Josh Johnson. That. Brandon Silver's is not going to the, to the cabin. So I'm gonna throw, I'm gonna throw a couple more names. Okay. It's Charmaine Jones doing anything. Sharon Jones is making $45. Well, no, it's 30% of whatever $45 is on book cameo.com. That's the way it Charmaine Jones is doing. Maybe I'm gonna throw out a name that's that's gonna, that's gonna, that's gonna, we're talking about kneeling earlier. I'm going to throw out a name. Colin Kaepernick. He's so how old is he now? Colin Kaepernick. Let's look, that's a good question. Because, I mean, he had spent like six years now. Right? How long are we going to talk to about 32 years old. Okay. He's 32 years old. He could probably still go for another three years. Why don't they call Colin Kaepernick? Well, and this is also the greatest thing too. Cause you just had the dolphins do the switch opera. They pulled Fitzpatrick. They're putting, um, Who I am. That's the decision they needed to make. Yes, but they're okay. I mean, I thought Fitzpatrick was doing that right now too. Is the future. I mean, You have a better shot of winning with two other than not. Fitz is very Fitz. Magic is very sporadic. I've watched Fitzpatrick. If he was steady. Um, I feel like he would've stayed. It was a Buffalo or New York. I mean the jets or the jets are massive and organization right now. But, uh, Fitz magic is very sporadic. It doesn't come all the time. I think if you drafted to what you have to go with two at this point. Um, the dolphins. Who knows if they can turn it around. I mean, the bills are going up. I'm going to break this, break this secret to everybody right now, the bills are going to win the AFC East. They are going to win the AFC, the Patriots time at the top of the division. Is over the bills are going to win the division. Josh Allen, isn't going to be, the MVP is going to be close. Russell Wilson is hands down right now. The MVP of the league. Um, but the bills are gonna win the division. So why not? Get two of those reps and get him ready to go for next year. The future. Yeah. Well, it'd be interesting. I mean, with the Cowboys, I like all of this. I like all this fluidity. I like sometimes you have Monday night games. Tuesday night football game. We're changing quarterbacks. I like all this. I mean, I don't. I'm exit bell guy NFL second, but I'm like, and all this different stuff going on, it keeps, it keeps it fresh. I love it. Like, I think there was only one that like one of the weeks we only had Wednesday that was football free and it was like, that's awesome. More of that? Well, there's Friday too, but third, we have Thursday nights. You know, Friday, you're out. Do whatever you're doing, or if you're in Texas, you're. Not watching high school football because you know, they're part of they're open again. They're probably doing the high school football. So I'm saying like, Jerry should call Colin Kaepernick. Why not? At this point? At this point. Whether you got to lose, what do you have to lose? Jerry? You're already won one at 18. Looking like it's going to be, it's going to be a blog season. Throw calling out there for a few games. Did you see the guy playing street TV? The Cowboys. He took his gun out and shot it after work. Why are you so mad? Val is liable. That was great. And then Jeff was saying, Oh, we shouldn't, I don't post these. You're giving me a little too much like fame. Yeah. Don't like propagate this. Don't say this is okay to do. Oh, it's hilarious. I don't even have it. I don't often disagree with Jeff. Manny a cellie, finagling and chatty. You're going to have to buy the, I will disagree with this. I think it's always funny to watch, send down. Some dumb guy, pled your TV and get mad about losing a football game. Shooting your gun, bro. I know it's Texas. But come on. That was great. That's how I talk. We did the st. Louis st. Louis, I'm going through here. Um, we got, we got spring league staff a little bit. I just thought it was cool. They were sending out like the schedules of everything. This one's kind of cool. And they were talking like getting breakfast delivered to the room, having rules meetings. I just thought it was five. I think it'd be cool to imagine, like, You were there, it's like, you're at a convention you're going through, you're getting lunch, breakfast delivered. You're getting lunch, all this sorts of stuff. It seems cool. There's a ton of social media coming in about the spring Lake. I did email them, uh, to try to get them on the podcast. So we're going to see it some in front of spring Lake. I said, uh, I issued a formal request for the podcast, just a spoiler alert. So we'll say it. I will tell you this. Um, I am excited for, uh, the alphas, uh, One of their players. Uh, Yoshi Hito OMI. This is a credible from. Ritsumeikan university in Japan. Okay. Aye. I love it. I love seeing Japanese players in the, in football leagues. This is great. Like Josh Davis talked about earlier, you know, that the J*p Japan has as a football league and, and. The more, the football becomes a worldwide sport. The better off we're going to be. Let's make it an Olympic sport. Let's give a world cup of football. Let's let's all do all that. I want to have this discussion with you. And this is off the cuff because I had this discussion with Dorothy at dinner last night. I know you're a baseball guy. Football is the best sport. Right. I want you to rank and I'm. I want you, I'm genuinely asking you right now, genuinely asking football, baseball, basketball, and soccer. Please rank the four and give your thoughts. Okay. Here's here's, here's my, here's where I, this is where I stand. Football is the best overall sport to watch live or on TV. It's hard to watch other sports on TV. Uh, baseball's a hard watch on TV. Like. I will say that if you go to a baseball game, I think the environment at a baseball game is much better than the environment of football game being live. I will. You get caught up on your arrest. If you could just sit there and have a conversation while this is going on. It's, that's why it's called America's pastime. So baseball's better to watch live, but if you're talking about. Um, a TV sport with the live element that you can go and enjoy either one football top is the top dog. Of course, obviously. Um, soccer's better. I mean, it's a tough conversation. We were talking about this. There's good in both situations too. I mean, there's a lot of people that watch soccer on TV and, and the live element. I mean, you and I went to a Sounders game. You went to the Sounders MLS cup. Like it was, it was a fun environment. Um, I guess. And there's hockey. I mean, hockey's pretty unwatchable on TV. It is. I don't, I'm not a big fan of watching hockey on TV. I like watching it live. Um, and as far as basketball goes, So basketball is way more TV, sport, way more of a TV sport than a live sport. It's just, I just sit there, like I say, You know, they run back and forth a million times and it's always within like two points at the end. No, that's not always within. There've been times. I mean when you're playing the next, you're going to be in a more than two points. It's either a blow out or it's like two points, like there's no. Oh, they almost got it like football, you know, they're just one touchdown away. It's either. It's either one Oh four, then one Oh five or it's like a one-on-one to 78. Cool. Cool. Was that something good happened? Uh, yeah. So. We discussed maybe the, uh, The tattoo stuff. And maybe I don't even talk about it here on the XFL, Mark host some cool happen with the tattoo thing. So all is getting a tattoo. Paul's getting some new ink done. Apparently they might be able to get me in a studio city shop. That's good. Um, just to follow up with this fourth illustrated thing. I know we talked to Josh about it. I will tell anybody in the world go to this sports illustrated, watch this Danny Garcia. It's a six-minute video. It's called the unrelenting. Danny Garcia. I think it's like a, you know, series they do with a bunch of rounds. If you want to get really jazzed about the passion behind the people that are owning the XFL. 100%, you know, I knew enough about Danny kind of reading stuff and. Whatever she's been doing. It's a really cool piece. I would really advise it. This is when she was, you know, and then the article she's talking about expanding and growing. Yeah. The female viewership growing viewership in general. Expanding the teams, the cities, and just talking about how she, um, she, uh, like was it's still body lifting as of last year. Like she was competing professionally. Body body build and there was buying the XFL, like at the same time. I mean, this is crazy. This woman she's got her fingerprints in all, anything that you like about the rock she's got her fingerprints and all that stuff. It's Akilah. The under Armour, the XFL, the movie stuff, the shows like, Oh, it's really, really, I just would give anybody, I couldn't get more praise to this woman. Uh, this person and this, uh, this article in this video, I really thought it was well done. So. Um, speaking of going back to the spring league, the way we kind of glossed over there, there's a total of 37 former NFL players. Uh, in the sprinkling. Did you see that? I did I Oh, and that was the other. Six 36 now. Cause we're, we're taking down Quintin flowers. Yes. The other news after the next four weeks we have officially. Uh, changed our Twitter name, not the handle XFL Mark, but the Twitter name to the XFL. Plus TSL Mark Hass podcast. Showing our support for the spring Lake. We'll be covering both as much as we can, because of course we did discuss that with Josh Davis. Uh, they're not streaming many of the games online. That's unfortunate. W seven games on Fs one, I've gotten them all. I'll watch all of them. There's one that I have in the event for I've got everything else in the calendar, but yeah, I mean, it's good. The coach is it's crazy. You got Jean Jones getting involved. You've got Jerry. What's his name? You have a lot of the big names in that. So they're getting all that stuff in right now. Uh, they're practicing there at the San Antonio. Yeah, the Alamo dome and it's cool. I've been watching all this stuff come out on Twitter. There's a lot of good stuff coming out. So. A big, big time for the spring league. They kick off on Tuesday. I posted our whole rundown of all the team names on Facebook and that I was talking about the general. Conquers and the job service and all that stuff. So lots of good laughs to be had there. Definitely. Definitely. And speaking of laughs, I think we should close with this. Uh, you found out that someone might've been on the next season of the bachelorette. Oh yeah. Why. Two things. Uh, first is. I did finish it this spring Lake. So they're, they're leaking all the jerseys were seeing like, okay, so-and-so has a helmet. You know, we're seeing this stuff. Uh, receiving like the aviator Salmat we're seeing some of the practices. So there's Hayden at Hayden and Carson, uh, H H two K football. They're doing a lot of like breaking news for the spring Lake. So. A lot of this stuff. And it's showing that the first look at the, at the Jazzers. The jouster. So that practice Jersey. And it's this guy and he's standard. You have this app. Can you see this? I don't, you didn't put this. You did. Well in there, it's all in there. Which which tweet it's a HDK football status, one, three, one eight, six, six here, or the TSL Jasper's practice. I'm going to put this further up. But this is guy and he's like, And so I commented, I said that eyes open. It looks good though. And I retweeted, I said not the best looking team in the world in terms of like having a photo taken, but it's like, um, It's a really ugly purple and then it's like a really ugly beige. Uh, I'm all for it. I want it. I want a coffee at one. I want to wear it on the podcast. I want my jouster is. Practice Jersey from the TSL. Yikes. Uh, I think that's. Yeah. And then we have our breaking news with the XFL on the bachelor. I think that says otherwise, Get them to that. I don't watch the bachelorette and I get, I get chastised for that from a Nydia. She says you should watch it. It's a train wreck. That's something you two could bond over. Um, yeah. Brandon Silver's is in the bachelorette. Is that what we're, what we're saying. So Dorothy and I were watching it last night. Uh, they're all at bachelor. It's weird this year, they were going to start it and then COVID happened. Like they literally shut it down. Like the first day they were going to do that. So now it's months later, they're all quarantined and this resort. And I'm going to put the follow up here too. There's this guy, his name is chasing Nick. First off. What kind of name is that? They mix up his names and the birth certificate, like printed the last name first and the first name last. Yeah. It shouldn't be Nick chasing. That is. Did his mom named him? Like I was chasing Nick when I was a kid and I met his dad. Is that what happened? Oh, I'm sorry. Am I carrying the podcast right now with my humor? That was a good job. Yeah. Anyway. So it says here he is from Walnut Creek, California. Ah, And is, this is sorry. Ankles from Marie, Claire. It's just a little blurb. Nick is from Walnut Creek, California. And he apparently is a tech consultant. Don't you know that if you're a Marie, Claire, and you're writing an article. He was probably the recast, but this dude looks, I'm going to put this side-by-side out. This guy could be Brandon silvers. Brother cousin, it could be Brandon silvers. I mean, it could be branded Silver's that he might chase a mic. That's a fake man as a fake name, but I tweeted at, at silvers and I did that, like the bachelor hashtag and it got a ton of views because I think is, you know, all these women are looking at like the hashtag bachelor at ABC or whatever by that this dude, this is Brandon silvers in another life. And I am for it. Are you gonna, are you rooting for chasing Nick? Is that, is that your official pick on, on the bachelor at the fear? He's all right. It's, it's kinda hard. Cause I think that they're going to, so this bachelorette, I believe in the quarantine from when they started filming to now, Was talking with one of the people. So I think she is going to leave. And then we are going to get a new bachelorette. Ah, So it's very hard to get invested right now because you're kind of just waiting for like the shoe to drop. Interesting. Very interesting. Now it's interesting. Um, Oh, the other thing too, before we go, um, Overall our overwhelming positive response for our coal Boozer interview. To call shouts to call great guy. Love to have a back sometime. Uh, hope all goes well. Hopefully, and I don't wish injury on anybody, but it's, it's a, it's an inevitability and hopefully he'll get a call from an NFL team. Just like Colin Kaepernick. Call from the Dallas Cowboys. But yeah, van, the man specifically texted me. He said Cole booze, or it needs to be on all the episodes. Well, we'll get, let's try to get them on once a month. I'd love to have him on as an, as a somebody who's, you know, play the game at higher level. Like I think I stopped in high school. So someone who's played the game at much higher levels of weight would be great to have him come down. And break down some stuff sometime I'd love to have mom once a month. At least be great. And this is my final segue van. Also sad that why is there wrestling? Talk on my XFL podcasts. So do we have any wrestling talk before we go? This is already a supersized episode. We've got about an hour and a half on this episode. Is there any nuggets, any nuggets, anything. I don't have any, any comments about what's going on in wrestling right now? Right. Jordan is going to face your MacIntyre. Again for the 15th time. Yeah. Uh, Roman reigns. Oh, that was the one thing I wanted to ask you and then we'll be done. And then we can go. Alexa bliss and the fiend. We we S O. That we saw it coming a mile away. Then we are we in on that? Are they dating or something? Because the guy that plays Bray, why the theme is married to Joe, Joe, the ring announcer, the girl ring announcer. Remember Bray was married and we don't need to spill his personal details, but we're going to do it anyway. Bray was married and then met Jo Jo and something was happening behind braise. Why? Then they got a divorce and anyway, long story short. Now they're not dating. I think Alexis is still single for all. I know. It seems like a weird pairing. It just seems like a weird pairing that they put her with that with the feed, and then he took out all of retribution. Well, yeah. So retributions done again. It's probably the third time we've said that the retribution is over. They should just stop. Uh, also, I, I wanted to get your take on this. Calling the hurt business. THB. That's what they're calling them now. I guess that's the cool thing. There's no money here. No, there's no money in their business. Then they are hurting. They're hurting for money. They're hurting the business by being there. Man, I think we killed it today. I'm going to get episode. A lot of, a lot of good topics, a lot of good tangents, like the Jim Thomas discussion. I hate Jim Thomas. Hey, Jim Thomas now, too. Yeah, I'm going to flag him on Twitter. I'll blow them up. Good. Yeah, I rate this podcast.com. We appreciate all the reviews. We've got all those masks coming out. 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XFL Markcast Episode 10 - Cole Boozer Stans US!

All right. I'm recording. Okay. I am recording this as well. Good. I'm glad. I'm really glad for that. No edits. Well, here's what I was going to say. So first off I have my new, uh, clean, authentic Jersey on today. I'm washing my other one. So this one's clean. No worries out there. Um, and when was worried. So then here's the, here's the game today? So it's 11:00 AM right now. Cole Boozer, with the DC defenders, 69 is joining us. 69. So the goal is we're just gonna roll through calls, going to join us. At noon and we're going to see how it goes. I mean, isn't that kind of the plan. And then they're called joins. That's. Great. That's should be the plan. All schools down in, uh, Texas. I think he's going to join us. We are figuring that he's got to go coach a high school football. Football thing later today. He's joining us at noon Pacific. And that we'll see how it goes. Alright. Sounds good. Yeah. So it's the week 10 we're in double digits. Yeah, we are again, a rate this podcast.com/xfl to radar podcast. Also XFL show.com/merge to buy some merch. I'm glad we're finally getting me a hat situation figured out. Uh, mr. Reed over here is very particular on how the proof looks on the exhale Mark gassed at. Are you happy with what's happening with the hat? Yeah, I was talking to Arthur today. Yeah. Now we're getting that, we're getting the hats figured out. It's going to be good. And, uh, I'm excited. So we're going to have a new snapback hat, um, coming in. I want to approve it and then we'll put it up on the shop itself. Very excited about that. Thank you very much for your help with that. I'm glad we're fixing that. Yeah, it's good. Weird, you know, it had some weird embroidery lions, so it's good. It's going to look legit and professional. So I'm excited. Good to hear. All right. Let's, let's start with the topics to talk about today. And Reid said he wants to be the captain. He's recording this podcast. This time, let's go. Well here, here's the question for you. So do you want to get through the little bit XFL stuff that we have, and then we'll get into kind of more than meat and potatoes. Let's do the XFL stuff since there's not too much. XFL stuff to discuss clearly. I'll tell you when that when Mark with the newsroom drops at 23 minute podcast. You know, it's a light, you know, it's a light XFL week, but we're not going to let that happen. I am, uh, we got a lot of, we got a lot of content today. We have a lot of spring league talk. We're going to do, uh, some accent fellow staff. We've got some rock staff and then we've got a lot of WWE stuff I want to get into you. All this Alberto Del Rio staff. We'll keep it kind of, we'll keep it PG for the podcast, but we'll get into some wrestling stuff. And I think I have a costume for you for this year for Halloween. So we're going to get them. No. Because they did you see him? We'll get into it. Did you see the Andre, the giant inflatable costume? Um, so. XFL staff. Uh, first off our fearless leader of the rock has passed 2 million followers on Insta hundred million, 200 million, 100 million. What say you pop. There's a reason. He is the most followed person on Instagram now. Clearly he's, he's the most followed person on Instagram. Uh, his content team was. Spectacular and the stuff he turns around, you know, and it just, he knows. Is that a work, the algorithm. And not only that, but you know, really wants to hear from the rock. Everybody wants to hear from him. I'm glad to see that those couple of middle fingers that are content got talking about the rock and the extra foul and the whole endorsement deal. I'm glad that really hurt his, uh, yeah. Followership. My gosh, how. Right. Ever will he do without those three people that clearly don't like the rock anymore because he made a political statement. Wow. But it is. And I, can I just say this? Can I just say this? Uh, these people who call more, more often. Uh, the people that are upset about the national Anthem thing and the supporting of liberals, they call liberals, the snowflakes and these people sometimes are getting a little snowflake. How about others? You know, I'm voting liberal candidates. It's it's interesting to say the least. Well, I guess last week on the podcast, I think that the rocks, um, political leanings should have nothing to do with your enjoyment of the XFL. Uh, we support the players and the coaches and the town. Uh, I do think that it's ridiculous. I think that you could nitpick anybody's politics and anything that you like probably your favorite actor probably doesn't feel, you know, I mean, You know, like Tom cruise top of the world for a long time, probably had some weird views about lots of things. Right. While you're being glib now. But no, I mean the rocks killing it 200 million and then he's the most all-time right. And then like Ariana, Grande's up there. And then the Kardashians, right. Is that, is that who are, who I think the rock then Ariana then top. [unknown] he's going to see exactly how many followers the next closest one to the rock house. So we're. This is 2020. Kylie Jenner has a 0.2 billion. Christianne Aldo. Who is that? A soccer player that recently tested positive for COVID. Yeah. I saw that Ariana Grande de Leo Messi, and me as an ESI. And then Selena. Other soccer player. Yep. These soccer players. Can I get. Can't get the TV radiance, but they get the Instagram falls. Right. Yeah. Why is that? Why? What are you talking about? People-wise more soccer in the state spot, uh, because our us national team is terrible. That's why, yeah. We didn't even make the world cup last time, which is. I'm sorry. That's unacceptable for us. That is unacceptable for the United States. Not to be in the world cup. Fix it. I'm fixing I'm serious. This is ridiculous. Why do they do they need to get better players? Do they need to be more disciplined? Well, I mean, it's, it's. It's a number of things and we don't have a relegation system. Like, although we will, all of the leagues around the world in club soccer, like for us, our club soccer league is the MLS. League of course, and I am wearing my Sounders. T-shirt. I didn't even play in getting on a soccer team. No, but I'm a happened to be wearing my Sanders t-shirt, um, club soccer here doesn't have a relegation system or promotion system, basically in the premier league, the bottom three teams in the premier league go down a division. So basically. There is a thought process to if. MLS in the U S had a promotion and relegation system it's called pro REL. Um, the teams that finished last. The last three spots would drop down to play like a Tacoma defiance or whatever they're called now. Uh, down in Tacoma, basically. Um, if you finished the top three in the league below MLS, you go up to MLS. So, so if, if we had a relegation promotion system that might help put the U S back. In terms of a even footing with soccer, but who knows? I just think that us soccer has kind of been, um, A joke for a while and not making the world cup last time around, made it even worse. So. We'll see what happens this, uh, this next go round. Is this kind of like when they talk about like the Browns or someone in the top, they'll bad at NFL team should go down to the XFL and then they should bring up. Now we see that joke all the time and they say they always come. They always say Ken, Alabama beat, uh, the jets. No, they can't Alabama. Can't beat the jets. And I'll tell you why, because the jets are still an NFL team. They have the best of the best college players playing. And even the best college players playing that a play in the league for five years are still better than juniors at Alabama. That's just the truth. But with the pro uh, promotion relegation system. Um, in soccer, it's a little bit different because when you get promoted to like MLS, your budget would increase. So you'd be able to get better players to stay at that top level. I don't know if that's the solution, but us soccer needs to figure it out for sure. Uh, speaking of the jets, I really only knew about the jets. Uh, from my, uh, my survivor podcast, I listened to Rob says that he's a big jets fan grew up in New York, but they are really quite terrible and they're really getting worse. They just released. Lavonne right. And that's crazy. I, I followed all that last night spiraling with, I was watching Tuesday night football at Tweedy with our good friend at Jeff and Shelly and following Cleo. Leo Chetty Aglio Chelsie and following the jets. Magliocchetti Nagley. I was chatty. There you go. There you go $5. But yeah, Jeff was, we were watching Tuesday of football and then the jets whole thing was coming down and it was crazy. Man, the jets are terrible. I'm not, I've never been a jets fan, but the jets are like the New York Knicks of the NFL. It's just it's it's in sham. It's when they hired that coach Adam Gase. The, have you seen, yeah, you saw the youth. On the press conference. Yeah. And, and now it's, it's, it's gotten even worse. And I don't know if they're tanking for Trevor Lawrence out of Clemson. That might be what they're trying to do. But then they need to get rid of Sam Darnold because clearly they don't feel like Sam Darnold is the answer, but. The way that offensive line, the whole way the whole team plays, it's just, it's, it's terrible. And I mean, I think Jamal Adams was a jet before he became a Seahawks. So maybe, uh, maybe, uh, Lavonne bell will follow. Jamal Adams is a lead and come to Seattle. And if that happens. Watch out. Seattle's already undefeated. Watch out. Did you, did you watch the game on Sunday? I did. Crazy. Yeah. I was always on the edge of my seat. I was on the edge of my seat. I was at work and I was like, Oh, come on. If anybody can do this, Russell can do this. And sure enough, I did, you know, 16 touchdowns, two interceptions in eight to one ratio is quarterback ratings. Over one 30, Russell. Wilson is killing it, man. If, if you think anyone else is a front runner for the MVP, you need to seek therapy at this point, Russell Wilson. Is the NFL MVP as far as I'm concerned, five weeks. And I know it's early. But we're already talking about it. We're already talking about, who's going to be the MVP and Russell Wilson is hands down, running away with this thing. Oh, it's so it's so funny. Um, you know, I I'm actually a fellow fan first and foremost, right. Yeah, I don't, I don't like to be at the bandwagon guy. Right. I like to have my things right. Well, we talked about this and that's why I like the accent foul. We're going to get into the spring Lake thing. I like all that stuff. I am watching a lot more football because content and for us to talk about on here, and I feel like I need to be knowledgeable about what's happening in the NFL, right. To be able to talk about. You know, just other things. But on Sunday morning, I'm on the treadmill. I got the chief's Raiders game on. I got YouTube TV, big boy. Read, gone off my mama's X affinity. Log-in. I got YouTube TV. Yeah. 30 35 for how old am I? Very far. And, uh, so I'm watching the chiefs Raiders game. And Dorothy comes running and she's doing their dance church in the other room to get updates. I'm a gay rights. She comes in. She's kinda looking, goes back out. And then she's later in the day we were talking about the spring league. And I said, when did we become a football household? Like, this is crazy. We're watching. The night football. Dorothy. And I, at the edge of our seat watching Sunday night football, this is wild. Look, I don't think you're hopping on a bandwagon. If you're supporting a Seahawks, like you were, you were raised in Seattle, bro. It's not like you, you have a birthright to it. I just try, I try to be authentic. I like to be. I know, but I don't need to give you the. The card to get in into the club you, you were raised in Seattle, like, were you born there too? I assume. So you have a right to root for the Seahawks should not bandwagoning anything, dude. Come on, but it was, it was wild. And then, uh, last night we watched the Titans and that bills, I mean, it's crazy this YouTube TV, Dorothy, like we're watching football already. Dinner. This is crazy. What is happening in our lives in 2020. Well, we need something to make us feel better. I think to, well that game last night, it was crazy. I don't watch a lot of Titans football, but that was not in that guy. Strong arm. That guy. Derrick Henry is a beast dude. What a beast. Josh Berman, Josh Norman should retire right now. I don't know how you come back from that. I saw like NFL memes was supposed seeing, you know, all the best of him getting kicked by Cobra, Kai and him getting, you know, stone cold, Steve Austin doing the sound, you know, they're splicing in the photo with all this difference of, yeah. I don't know how you, I don't know how you go back to the locker room and just get spanked out like that. I like how Derrick Henry said I've been doing too many curls. No, I think you've been doing a perfect amount of curls. The way you through that through you may Josh Norman looked like a Peewee football league. Like he completely owned them. It was, it was embarrassing. Yeah, that was good. I saw that going crazy. Anyway. So we had a little bit more on, uh, on our boy Oliver luck. I think I kind of missed this last week. I don't really know. Uh, at the RCFL newsroom, Matthew, Nagashima talking about, Hey, Oliver likes getting more involved in kind of protecting the college player. Oh, no, sorry. I need to be critical. Well, so I, can you do, you know, more background on this? And I do, I mean, with a colleague sports and all these organizations, I think you probably have more expertise in this live. You do you have this article in front of you? Yeah, I do. I think that maybe this might be relating to the fact that like, okay, so if you're not aware, Of college football and college players. There's a momentum going toward, you know, football players being able to profit off their name and likeness. And, um, I think this is, you know, This is long overdue. My favorite game 10 years ago, 15 years ago, it's been that long now was NCAA football. It was such a great. A video game to play because you could create your team. And you'd see, like for example, Arizona had QB number seven and you knew it was Willy to Tama because all the stats and birth things. So basically EA sports was selling this game. They weren't naming the players, but they had their stats. So, um, ed O'Bannon from UCLA. He saw his likeness being used in a game and got together with a group of players and sued the NCAA and won. They won because. It's been a long issue where I've thought, and I've seen this before, where, when I worked in Tucson as a photo photo journalist, you could go to Arizona football and basketball games and you could buy like Arizona basketball Jersey that had number 34 on it. It didn't have a name on the back, but it had a number 34. So, you know, you were buying chase budding, Jers Jersey. So the school was technically profiting off your likeness and image without overtly doing it. And it was, it was kind of BS that the students themselves weren't able to do this because it is their likeness and it is their image. So all over, all over luck used to be in charge of the NCAA. And used to oversee a, uh, a body that prevented students from doing this. So it's great to see him come over to the other side now and actually try to help these college students. Profit off their likeness. Yeah, that was like back when you didn't use to have to go in and like Alvin names yourself. Like if you get big, like video. I thought you, yeah, you could go in and like, Mmm. Or you would know, so you would know who they all kind of were though, right? But you couldn't, you couldn't like go when you went to buy them on an online store, you would just be able to buy the Jersey. You couldn't add a name to the backup. Like in the football game. Can you like, can you. Like make your own, like, is this my like Alabama team or whatever, you could go into NCAA football and change the names out and add their actual names. And there's actually a group of people that will. This is honest to God. They still update all of the teams every single year. There's a group of people that go through and do this for people that are still playing the NCAA football games. So I'm all on board with this. I think it's about time. It's long overdue. The kids. It's their likeness. They should be able to profit off it and not the school. And it's, you know, college athletics I've felt. Corrupt system for a long time. I mean, Uh, another example of this as Jeremy bloom, a world famous skier. And when you're an Olympic skier. You need sponsorships to get to the Olympics. So Jeremy Blum had sponsorships to get to the Olympics. He just happened to also be a punt returner. For Colorado football. So the NCAA deemed him ineligible to play college football because of his sponsorships for his skiing career, that he was an Olympic athlete for. So it's, it's long overdue that we need to change the model of college athletics. And I'm hoping that I'm glad all over luck is on the right side of this now, as opposed to the NCAAs version of it. Well, he's staying busy, man, you know, with enjoying the beautiful game group and all of that. We talked about last week with, uh, trying to help some investors. You know, he's staying busy, even without a, it's funny talking about that. The video games, there's the whole, I've been watching all this controversy now that I guess the new Madden game that came out this year, like toy stinks and there's no other, you can't get like NK era. Do UK, you. 2020 or whatever. And so they said that, um, the Madden game that, you know, they retail for like 60 or 70 bucks, it's like 50% off now, like week five in the NFL season, because it's so bad and nobody's buying it. It's like, how can you, how can you take a video game so bad that it's, we're still in the NFL season and it's like 50% off. You're only paying every, every year you buy Madden, you're paying for an updated roster. They don't change the engine. They don't change anything about the game to improve it. Matter of fact, MLB the show. I got a refund on MLB the show because it was a, it was a terribly program game. I mean, this is happening a lot with video games where you know that, uh, WWE and UK's creative split ways. And UK's has been doing the WB games for years and there was no innovations to it. They'd be one stunk to right. People. No. That's why that's why it's done. It's because nukes job. Dropped off the WWE rushed it out anyway, and it was a terrible game. So. Uh, you know, if you buy one Madden game, you buy one FIFA game here. You're set. You don't really need updated rosters. We just want the gameplay. Uh, so speaking of that, I posted one of our videos around the Facebooks talking about the 20, 22 delay. Of the XFL. Uh, we were talking about, uh, James Larson's article on newsroom. And our good fan van hers. Uh, van the man, our number one fan commented. And so I thought it would be important to kind of bring his take into this too. He literally just commented before we were getting ready to record. Oh, that's wild. Am I good. Yeah. He just posted it about 20 minutes ago. And so I said that we would, we were talking about it. So van stake in van runs this yellow dragons, a Facebook group. That's why we talk about them a lot on here. I. You know, huge fan. He went to all at. He went to, to exit fell games every weekend. The whole time, like he went to seven games in five weeks or something like that. It was big, big. He had front row seats for all the different stadiums and stuff. And so the van was talking about the 20, 22 delay. And he said with the amount of positive tests, COVID results that came in from other professional sports leagues, he thinks it's a great business and humanity decision. You need to keep the league on pause and get through the medical advances to lower both the risk on people that include players, staff, media, and fans. That financial impact and trying to start up a league or dealing with seven different States and eight counties would be very expensive for a $20 per seat league to accommodate social distancing. In some professional sports teams are chartering twice as many air airplanes. For each way game and therefore having to aircraft's would easily raise, you know, seat prices as well, trying to get the players back and forth. This would just be one of many increased costs that would have to be passed on to the current, uh, highly affordable ticket prices with smaller rosters and significantly lower payroll. Having an outbreak would shut. Uh, the team down for possibly weeks and having an outbreak in the fans would be a huge liability. Uh, with the stadiums and them hanging out in the stadiums and the parking lot's tailgating and the unnecessary exposure. Um, and not being able to eat and drinks in the stadiums as well. So, Uh, wait, what do you think about any of that? That van said. Uh, there was a lot to take in there for sure. Um, I do feel that like, you know, And speaking of that, there was a somebody that you sent it, you sent this. A general discussion for where this guy has said that. I saw this too. And I was like, okay. Yeah, people are talking about where maybe the accidental I'll get back to the 20, 23. And I'm like, ah, Being pessimistic at that point. Like we, I think we're figuring out really well how to have football in a bubble. I know some of these. It all varies depending on state. I do want to point out that, you know, Florida. Like there's a lot of fans, you know, at the Florida games, it's like Florida is blowing up right now in terms of COVID cases. Like we don't. Do we does, does the need for fans really mean we need to jeopardize having sports to begin with. Um, I don't, I don't think we should be doing this, but anyway. Uh, bubbles, bubbles work. We saw it with the MBA we saw with the NHL bubbles work. So. If the XFL operates in a bubble that has to operate in a bubble, it will. I don't see any reason why. 2022. Can't happen. Now and especially, I mean, we're getting through it, we're getting through it with that, you know, even like the Titans and everything. I mean, we're getting through it, we're delaying staff, but that goes back to, I saw a tweet from one of the. NFL, Roger's talking. And we've obviously been talking on here because I've seen them talk about it in the past. You know, having to extend the NFL season. If we need to delay staff, if we need to add another week. And you just, it. That's more reason why the XFL couldn't go this year is you don't necessarily know that, that Saturday after the super bowl, it's going to be free to go. And you know, you have to, I think that's the only reason why the XFL is not going. I think they could figure it out. They need, I think they could rehire the people. I think they could get it all figured out, but by the time next year rolls around. But I think that they're kind of catering to the NFL because the NFL, if they're going to. If, if things are delayed terribly, when the NFL they'll play the Superbowl on Easter weekend, they don't care. They'll make it happen. So I think that's the real reason why the XFL is being delayed, not because of any COVID issues. In terms of their own. Uh, parameters their own, um, system in place. I think it's more like let's let the NFL have their season and not worry about overlap. That's the real reason and login or whatever Logan's name is. Uh, I think he was completely missing the boat. Well, and also, yeah. You know, if you just say, well, maybe we started in March or maybe we start later. You know, their whole thing behind the accident. Family is coming on right after the NFL. And that, that just kind of carry that over. And I know that you can launch it whenever, but that's always been the XFL thing back from when they sat in, in 2018 that they were going to launch and. You know, come on the week after the Superbowl, you still want football, we're here for you. Just kind of keep the train rolling. And I think, yeah, if you're going to start in March or April, we talked about, you know, weather and temperature things, you know, last week or the week before about, you know, playing into the hotter weather as it goes. And also, yeah, you just need to be able to capitalize on that and not just come in, you know, who cares that the XFL launches a month later and then you're like, okay, well we're off on watching. Whenever you watch it. You know? Yeah, that makes sense. So, They don't get used speaking to bubbles. Did you, I know the CRS are going on. Did you watch any of that? The last finals game? Um, I did because you know, the Lakers were in it. I'm not a Lakers fan, but you know, I live in LA and that's, you know, that's kind of. The franchise that, you know, That runs there's, you know, the Clippers are still, the Clippers could win 16 championships in a row, and this will still be a Lakers town, no matter what, it's just like how the Rams and chargers are here, but this is a writer's town. So of course I did watch the finals because the Lakers were in it and their LIS team. And, um, Yeah, I mean, Look what, look, what they were able to pull off. That's crazy. Crazy. I know. It may just all, you know, command everybody involved in that whole situation for really getting that, getting that. Adam silver. I guarantee, um, I guarantee David stern and I might be still p****d at David stern for what he did with Seattle for so many years, jerking them around. Um, but I don't think David stern could have pulled off what Adam silver did with the bubble situation at all. I don't think he could have done it. So. Hats off to Adam silver. So I'm not an NBA fan. When do they come back? When does that season start again? Well, that's funny how you say that because they're supposed to be starting soon. But then they're not going to be starting until January. It looks like on the next season and it'll be another shortened season. Because NBA finals are supposed to conclude in June and here we are in October and we just barely awarded a title. So, uh, the next season's going to be short and probably as well. Um, and then we're going to get back to normalcy probably in 2021. In the fall and then, you know, you'll see summer ball pickup, and then, you know, pre season start in late September and we'll go back to normal. So. Uh, yeah, we're supposed to be starting soon. Yeah, cause I mean like baseball, right? They just kind of chopped out the whole first part of they have everything, right. I mean, we're kind of relatively on the same timeline. Uh, but with basketball. Yeah. I just don't know how that works with, you know, just kind of picking up again, like I said, I just, my knowledge of MBA is so low, so that was kind. Baseball is working the baseball season's going to end before it would have normally had we played a full one 62, because normally he goes to the first week of November now. And the, that started when they added another round of the playoffs. Um, the only other happened. Let's see the next a wildcard game in the playoffs started in like four or five years ago. And the only other time it happened in baseball, where we play the world series of November 4th, we added the additional playoff game was 2001. And that was for the re we postponed baseball for a week after the attacks of September 11th. And that's why we got world series action in November, but now it's, every year we get world series action in November. So, um, they're on, they're on schedule to end the season in MLB before November starts. And so they'll go back to a normal situation where players and catchers report in February. And we'll go forward with the regular size baseball season. And that my condolences, Syria and keys. Uh, it's okay. Tampa's good. Tampa. Super good. And we're seeing that now, as we record this. Uh, who knows how today's game is going to play out, but Tampa currently, as we record this, Is up three to nothing on the Astros. And not that it's not that it's. Yeah. We're all happy about that. Not that it's a. Unheard of to come back from a three O deficit. As a Yankees fan, trust me. I know all about. Boston coming back from a three, a deficit. Um, it, it doesn't look good for the Astros and maybe that's good for baseball because the Astros didn't get their penance for cheating. And not being punished for it. Uh, so the big news this week, except for the fact that we've got cold brews are coming up on the podcast here in, in 30 minutes. So thank goodness for the spring league. I will tell you this is, and I want to give a little bit of context just to, if anyone's listening that doesn't know. I don't think there was one XFL writer or podcasts or anybody in the world that really didn't think this was going to come back in February. The XFL. And, you know, w with the delay and then, especially with the news kind of last week from Mike Mitchell, that probably not going to have any hires Intel, you know, may or June at the earliest. Having this friendly come back and playing in October here has honestly really been a shot in the arm for, I've seen a lot of the riders get on board. A lot of the news sites, people are picking teams. We have a team. I want to talk through all the different teams and everything that's going on with you and kind of get your take on all the logos and everything else. Uh, but to set the context for this, because I saw people posting on Facebook. Well, this isn't the XFL what's going on with this. Like, people are confused and they can't read. I posted a lot of that, um, that guest on from beauty and the beast, like you can't read this, there's no pictures in here because all these people were seeing these articles and being like, well, where are, where are the dragons? Where are they aware? They're renegades. Not that I saw that. It's not the same bang. Yeah. So the spring league is, is a, is a pay to play football league for guys last year. I think they did a lot of work with the XFL kind of refining a lot of the rules and staff. The games weren't really televised last year at all, because I think they were kind of testing out some of the different stuff that, yeah, the XFL was working with them in 80 other kickoffs and all the different stuff. Why is this friendly playing in October of 2020? Uh, well, it is just 2020. And I think that that's kind of part of the deal. Uh, I think the plan is they're playing this now as kind of a place holder, because there's not a lot of college ball. And then I do think that our plan is to come back and play again in the spring. If I'm wrong, please correct me on that. Uh, but that would be wonderful. For us as a, uh, as a developmental football league. Uh, to be able to cover the D uh, the spring Lake. So, first off, what do you think about that, Paul, before we get into all the different teams and all this shenanigans we're going to have with the spring Lake, what do you think about finding out that there is, uh, God has dropped football on you that we can talk about for the next two months. I mean. Props. I didn't even know this was happening. And all of a sudden my Twitter feed starts blowing up with TSL, the spring league stuff. And I was like, Whoa, what's happening here. And you know, your read was very active with the XFL Markcast Twitter account. So. Got a little construction. It's okay. It's not okay. It's never. Okay. It happens every day here. I'm I'm I'm serious. Like. None of this is a central work people. None of this is the central work moving on. I didn't even know that was happening. And all of a sudden my Twitter accounts blowing up with mentions over this, uh, spring league. So I'm glad. Might we be over-saturating a little bit with football though, because college is still happening. NFL is happening. So, I don't know. It's good. It's good. More football better. I guess something we'll talk about, but, uh, you've picked a team for us. Thank you for consulting with me on that. Yeah. So, so to get into this. So, so the spring league is going to kick off in two weeks on October 27th on a Tuesday. Uh, they're going to play, it's a bubbly. So that'll be kind of interesting to see how the whole bubble leak situation goes with football. There's six teams. They're going to play for four weeks there. They're going to attempt to do a championship game after that all the games are going to be played at the Alamo dome and San Antonio. I know you know that venue while Paul. Yeah. That's a concrete hole. But you don't get cell phone signal out of that thing at all. Uh, we saw Royal rumble, 2017 sat front row in that, in the one hundreds and watch Randy Orton, uh, when the, uh, 2017 Royal rumble. And also, I believe that was when John seen that be AIG. J styles for championship 15. Maybe, maybe it's a good question. So. So you look that up. So, so we've got six teams and we have a team. I put a Twitter poll out today. We're going to see what everyone else is supporting. Um, I want to get your take on these, on these teams. And these are like super, I love this. This is everything that speaks to read. This is B level football. Uh, kind of terrible teams in terrible logos. But, but I'm here for it. So we have, first off, we have the aviators. They are returning from last year. So last year, They were originally called the Hughes after Howard. He is the aviator, you know, like from like, Rhetorical what? Yeah. So that's why it's like a guy in a business suit because people post because the photo is like a guy and he's got a scarf and he's got the, you know, the helmet. And people go, well, why is this business suit guy at, you know, like a world war II pilot? No, it's Howard Hughes the aviator. So they are the aviators. Um, so there, it says on there, you know, same logo, new team. So I'm going to skip our team for a minute. So we have the blues. Uh, they, they are a shark and it's got like a B, and then the shark makes the B. It says the only thing on the mind of a shark. Is to eat. And when I saw this come out, I got, this is when I kind of got my interest peaked. So, first off, what do you think about the Hughes and what do you think about the blue spot? The hues and the blues. Um, I just, I like started reading up on this yesterday because I needed to get freshened up on this. So I'm glad they're not called a Hughes anymore. It seems like a really ridiculous name. So. Uh, aviators is good. Um, but we're, we're, we're supporting the jouster. And I'm trying to give. Hip to all the things on the jesters. So the jazz masters are, and this, this is when I was all in, and this is, I think the third one that came out, I was all in, and it's like this Tuesday night with the shield on a horse, it's got a thing and it says, This is when I knew I was a solid cause I'm like, what is going on? What is the spring like? And, and this is their team slogan. A Knight in shining armor is a man who has never had his metal truly tested. Wow. That's deep. Right. It's very philosophical. So I said, and that was when I tweeted, I said, um, [unknown] we are the official podcast of the jouster. Esters and we'll get into some of the players in 70 minutes, but you think that was a good choice on the Jasper spot. I wanted to conquer is after I did my research, but it appears according to the TV schedule, but on Fs one Fs, one is all about the conquerors. They're showing more conquers games than anyone. Yeah. We'll we'll get into, we'll get into the team. So we have the conquerors. Uh they're. They it's like a, I don't know if that's 2020, like, I don't love the corkers in 2020 that we just celebrated indigenous peoples' day here in Seattle. I just, I don't know. It just doesn't feel right there. A tagline is I came period. I saw period. I conquered. So that's pretty straight forward. Ah, This is, uh, our, our friend Michael pain. This is the team he is supporting the alphas. It's the Wolf. It says ironic. Give some context here. Keep going. It says the Wolf on the Hill is never as hungry as the Wolf climbing the Hill. I mean, again, these are deep. These are really deep. Like slogans for Springfield. If I want Play-Doh. And Socrates. Being the, the, the centers of a football league. I don't know if that matters. Yeah, so it's kind of a wall. It's a kind of deal. Uh, and then we have the, uh, the generals is, is a repeating one, two. So the generals were on date. They've kind of been getting the shaft. They haven't been getting a lot of like, even their logo for ID didn't even really get it revamped, whatever. So, so a lot of these games are going to be played on Fs one, which goes into my whole getting into YouTube TV thing as well. I was kind of planning this anyway. And yet they're really heavy on the conquerors. So. They're going to play for four weeks. I think there's 12 games, but only five are going to be broad cat one, two, three, four, five, six. So seven games are going to be broadcast. And then the other ones aren't. So I was kind of looking at the thing and I'm like, where are my gestures? Because we're only on there like two weeks, so they're going to play the other ones. And I don't know if maybe we can get some like live tweeting action from some of the job service players. You know, fans or whatever, but, um, yeah, so we're going to be covering this, but this is like everyone's on this. Cause I think people need. I think a lot of the XFL sites hired a lot of writers with the anticipation of the XFL. Like we will be talking about the XFL right now. We don't have the exit valve, but we have the TSL. And so we are the TSL Markcast podcast. Now. Why? What are your thoughts? You're officially changing our name to TSL Markcast podcast. No, but by Allah. We got, what are your thoughts on this? That, and the teams and everything? I think, I mean, I don't know, again, like I said, I don't know if it's a good idea to have a spring league right now. We do have college football, somewhat. We do have the NFL going on. It might be over saturation. This might've been perfect. Maybe to take over where the XMLs spot was. Um, but it'll be something to watch. I mean, uh, you know, they don't have that much in terms of PD time. They're not televising many of the games, so it will be something to watch. It'll be more sports. And I, you know, after all. The more sports, the better. Clearly, uh, you're, you're having a Renaissance in your house where you're watching a lot of football and I'm seeing here that Jerry Glanville is one of the coaches. Yeah. And we'll, we'll get into. Yeah. So, so talk about that. And then I want to talk about some of the players too. So talk about that. The oldest, Jerry Glanville now. He's he's almost, he's gotta be 80. And Reed's going to look that up. He's gotta be at least easy. At least if he's not, if he's not 80, 79. October 14th. Happy. Happy birthday. Cheers. Today, uh, at 41. So 79 79 today. It is literally happy birthday, Jerry Glanville. I needed a tweak this afternoon. Podcasts. This is phenomenal. How, how we lucked into finding out today was three. From the extra Valmarc has happy birthday, Jerry Glanville, Ashley. How long do you want to coach football though? Well, Jean Jones is 67. Why they got some other teams? Anyway, so, yeah, but, um, so Jerry Glanville is involved where, where are the other coaches? I lost that tab. TSL. DSL. Sparingly. And. Go through. So what do you think about Jerry Granville coaching? I mean. He's up there, like he's, you know, 79. I don't know. I don't know how sharp you can, and I'm not saying anything about his mental capacities. I'm just like at a certain point, you get a little bit too old to be in touch with players. It happens at every. Uh, college, it happens in the pro leagues, the NFL MLB. You get to the point where you're just kind of out of touch with the players. And there's different ways that the system changes, for example, in baseball. Uh, it's all analytics driven where it's all about numbers and stuff like that. How. How open are old coaches to the data driven prop. Uh, The data driven practices of sports these days. I don't know. I can't really tell you how open they are. So it's like, I don't know what Jerry Glanville needs to be doing this for, but I mean, if, if he's able to. Coach effectively then sure. More power to him. So he is on the conquerors. So that kind of makes sense. Right? Big name. They've given him a lot of the TV, the game schedule. Um, you know, and then our. I don't know all these guys, Chuck. Chuck breads Nhat, Hanh. I don't know who that is. That's our coach. I'm the Jack Astor's, but what was interesting and what I'm thrilled about the Jazzers is when the Mark UBS is Quentin flowers who played. For, uh, you know, uh, exit fouled, the Tampa Bay Vipers, and what was so interesting about this. And I actually, if all the odd about this, and I'm not, it wasn't like a big Vipers guy, but obviously just keeping up with the XFL. So you had Aaron Murray and then tailor Cornelius and then Quintin flowers as like the three key bees there and there, Aaron Murray came out and kind of stunk it up. Yeah. They just, I don't even think they, they didn't score. Any points, I think for the first two games. So then they put in Taylor, Cornelius, I believe that's who played most of the game that we, the dragons one in our home opener against the Vipers that second week. But Quentin flowers. They would like, let him play a little bit and then pull them out. Uh, and then they would let you know, Taylor Cornelius play. And, uh, I'm totally forgetting. Can you look up Mark, Mark Desmon. Mark. Crestman that Vipers coach Mark, Mark, Mark. Uh, Craftsman. Yeah. Vipers coach. Marc Trestman you mean? Amen. And so he would always put in, uh, Taylor Cornelius. And so Clinton flowers actually requested a, he actually requested the trade. Sorry, I have my Facebook up. And because I had all my different stuff on here. Um, So Quentin flowers actually requested the trade. From the Vipers. And they were like, well, we don't know if we're going to give him one because he was just wanting to play and they would put him in. And so finally they went with Taylor Cornelius, but the point is, I think Quentin flowers is someone that's really hungry. Right. Really hungry, really wanted to get the raps. And I do think he's got speed. He also played as a running back. They would kind of have him do dual purpose. Cornelius with, you know, whatever. But all this back and forth, but I think it's really exciting that we got one out. There's a couple of different XFL guys, but I think that he's definitely one of the most high profile ones. That's right. The STS got a name and I'm excited that he's on the thing. So what do you think about that? Um, I think it's great. Um, I think, you know, It's it's again, I re re regurgitate what I said. Um, more football, the better, um, and Quintin flowers does definitely have a name. He was definitely one of the players to watch the XFL. And I've seen, I'm seeing a lot of CFL players here that have, that have signed up for this because of course the CFL season. Uh, it did, it didn't happen. And they allowed all their PO they released all their players from their contracts for the one season. So I'm seeing a lot of CFL names. A pile in here. So, you know, it's, it's. It's going to be good to keep these people sharpen and possibly. Now that begs the question is if someone does play well in the spring league and NFL wants to bring them in, what are the contracts situations there with that? That's a good question. To ask. Well, yeah, so it's interesting. So, and, and I think why this is so exciting is I do believe a lot of these guys. You know, especially if they do, uh, another kind of spring league, you know, month, month and a half go round in the actual spring. When the accident fell, starts hiring coaches and staff and everything in June. This is really gonna set up a lot of these guys. I do think a lot of these guys that are in this. I don't. Yeah, the question was we talked last week. Are the teams in the state of the same next year? What's going on? You know, it's going to be two years since the XFL. And you know, you have some of these guys like Landry Jones, you know, a little bit older. Are they still going to want to play again two years later, where here, you kind of have a whole crop and you guys, some, you know, some people that we know and then a lot of new guys, but I think these guys are gonna play again. And then I think we'll see a lot of them in those training camps in, in June. Like we had. You know, the year before the XFL in that June, they had the summer. So K showcase. They did one in Seattle. They did them kind of all over the country. I think you're going to see a lot of these guys who are paying to play in this league to kind of get that. That tape and then, and then submit that. And the other thing with the spring league is they're going to submit all the tapes from all this different stuff to all the major like NFL teams. Obviously, I'm assuming to the XFL too. So they're really trying. This is Matt is a development league. Get the players, some tape, get them some reps and kind of, you know, get that going. And I think to that point, we saw a lot of injuries through the first four weeks of the NFL season. So. Uh, any type of situation where we get regular practices, regular scrimmages. And ability to warm up our bodies for sports. Is also a good thing. So it's, it's a situation where we can't lose from this, from the scenario because these players are practicing. They're taking reps, they're playing games. So normally with those kinds of situations, we noticed that the injuries go down when we have time to do like a preseason. NFL didn't have pre season. We're seeing the results, a lot of injuries. But this is, this is a way to kind of work out those, those injuries and make sure they don't happen at the NFL league. And of course you say it's a developmental league. There's a good chance that. Come time for playoffs. Some of these players could be picked up to fill holes, you know, down the road we're injuries are going. And so of course there's another benefit of the spring Lake happening. Yeah. So just overall, I just think it's exciting. I think it's going to get people set up to talk about, Oh, I want to look here. As I posted on Twitter, I said, Where. I bust as, Hey, we're getting ready to record the podcast. Uh, so Jake Henry, uh, he, he's a writer he's supporting the blues. Uh, and then we have the TSL scouting report. Uh, he is doing the conquerors, and then I know that Zach, with Gridiron gang he's with the generals. And then James Larson was going to be with the conquerors. And then once they announced Quentin flowers, he's jumping ship and he's going to be with us. So I want to figure out, and we'll talk this through in the next couple of weeks. Probably before that legal launches. But Paul I wanted, and I did want to run this by you as opposed to just our, just our gastro. Foster's team. Um, you know, maybe like a guest spot on a podcast coming up, something, I want to figure out some sort of stakes for the spring league. You know, we're all going to pick teams and I kind of want to figure out what those stakes would be. So what does that look. Doing a wager then, is that what we're talking about? The wager. It would be good. I don't know. I think we'd have to brainstorm about it and then, you know, make a determination letter. I don't want, I want to be, I don't want to be put on the spot here and say something stupid. Like, I'll get a job. Logo tattooed on my chest. That's not happening. No, but I mean, so w w we'll put a pin in this for next week. We'll have one more week before the league launch is I think all the teams will be sad, but we're with the Jaspers and I want to say, you know, maybe we'll do like a guest spot on the podcast and we'll come on or no. Well, you know, you have to change your Twitter profile. That's something funny or, you know, like, Oh yeah. I mean, I love doing that. I love change. Twitter profile. I wasn't even thinking about that. You know what I mean? But, but I think that we should, I want you to bring in, so that's your homework this week is brainstorm our wager for the other XFL podcast. You think I work for you? It's so funny. It's so funny how you think that. That'll be our, that would be our homework for the week. Uh, I do, we want to get into WWE stuff while we're waiting for Cole to join us. Well, what we should do is we should take a break right now, play some ads and come back and talk to Cole Boozer. Okay. We got, we got mr. Boozer on, Oh, what's happening. Let's hold blooms or thanks for joining us, man. First thank you for having me on. We appreciate your time. We appreciate all the things. You've the cameo you did for us. We definitely appreciate that. So, yeah. Sorry. Fascia will open. I liked. Mark cast. And then I, in my head. I said Markcast, but then I put E T at the end of March, I was like, Oh God. Oh, I was dying. It was so funny because it came in. I did day after we recorded, whatever one it was. And so I was just sitting there. I'm like, I cannot wait to share this. It's worth every dollar to get Paul's reaction on that. I was so excited. So yeah, it was awesome. But yeah, the, the XFL, a market cast, talking stocks and XFL. I mean, there's lots of stock advice. That'll work. So, what are you up to these days? What are you doing? XFL staff and what's going on. Yeah. So right now I'm just working out, waiting for a call from an NFL team and my agent thinks, you know, that's gone well. Um, what's that? So we're figuring out where I'm gonna land. Um, so working out, I'm helping out with a high school team. Uh, which is one of the reasons why I asked to actually push it back and I messed up the time zones. I couldn't figure it out at first. And I was like, Oh wait, no, Um, But, yeah, so then I'm working out, I'm helping out my old high school team, my coach them while I'm like working out in between. And you know, it just keeps my mind sharp for like, when I go back into the NFL or in the XFL. Whatever comes first. Um, so then I'll be ready to go. We, we talked a lot. We've been talking a lot on this episode, specifically about the spring league and kind of that where a lot of that, the XFL, I think a lot of people thought it was going to come back in February. Right? We're we're pushing it a year. Uh, do you know any, anything about that? And did you have any interest in doing that or is that maybe, are you at a higher level than that? Or how does that work out? So I've heard of the spring league. My agent hasn't mentioned anything to me. I don't know. I am assuming, I guess he thinks I'm above it. Or not like, you know what I mean? Like, I mean, I'll play wherever, wherever he thinks is right. Um, cause I have decent film out. It's not like, you know, um, It's not like you need to build a tape. Yeah, correct. I need to build a little more tape, but not like to the point where I need to go this spring Lake, like a lot, some of the players who didn't really play as much in the XFL, like for them to build more tape, it will be a good idea for them to go to that. So. And it's a pay to play league too. I, I, as I understand. Then that's probably why he told me no. Don't worry about it, like whatever. And I also just got, uh, A puppy. Um, he, I got him. Six weeks ago. So I've been lying. Working on him and trying to get him. Right. So that's been over the pain, but stuff like that. So taking off for two months after you get a new dog, probably not the best idea. No, no, you know, I mean, I had some other stuff, but. That's like for other things, but nothing crazy, but the new dog is it's nice because it does keep me. More focused on like, you know, football, like, okay. Like, This is your livelihood. You need to focus on this. You can't go out and drink and have fun anymore. Like this is really where you need to focus your stuff. And so I can't do as much anymore, but I'm okay with that. Like, I've kind of accepted that at this point. When did you, what was your reaction? Uh, getting, I assume you got the emails and stuff, like all the other players stand about the, you know, them coming back and pushing it a year. And what was your delay find error, your reaction, finding out about the delay coming back in 2021 and not 2020. So. What do you mean? 2022 to 2021. Yeah. So I was kind of bummed. Um, but I understand why because of the whole COVID situation, they want to make sure their foreign us out. Cause I'm assuming. That there'll be a vaccine or something coming up. You know, I think that they want to just make sure they're far enough away from it where they don't even have to worry about that type of like a stipulation and stuff like that. So it makes sense. And it's sucks. That I have to wait that long if that's the case, hopefully I don't have to wait that long. If I get a call from an NFL team. Um, but you know, that would be, it talks and I, my buddy to one of our care, our kicker towel. Rosa said, uh, He said it's so like, you know, it's, it's great. It's coming back at 20, 22, but a lot of careers ended today. That's when they first sent out the letter because some guys were just a little older, like. I'm like one of the younger guys, like I'm 25. Um, and just like, Sucks. Cause I play with a lot of older guys on the team that were like 30, 30, one 32 that we're still trying to get a shot back. And for them to push it back to 2022. A lot of people are like, alright, well I gotta move on. That's kind of the move on time. So. It sucks, but. Everything happens for a reason. So that's why I'm a firm believer in that. Another hypothetical that we brought up is the reason why the XFL decided to delay another year is because we don't know when the NFL season might actually end too, because the NFL is a situation where if they need to play in the Superbowl on Easter, they're going to play the Superbowl on Easter. So it might, there might be some overlap. Yeah, I definitely, they're definitely the too big to fail type stuff. Like it's, like I was telling my brother when we were talking about this and I was like, it's really too big to fail situation. I mean, this kid. Teams could have COVID. But they're going to figure out a way to figure out this season, like they're paying the players too much money and. The, the, you know, the money getting moved around is just too much for them to be like, can't, can't do it. Yeah. Because there's been so much of the reaction, like you were talking about, you know, the age thing, because you know, everyone's posting online. What is it going to be the same teams, you know, what's going to happen. And like you said, a lot of these guys just might not stick. Right. When they're two years to kind of see this thing out. I mean, that's just a lot of time when you're gotta be as physically, you know, peaked as you email. And I, yeah, and I agree with that. It's just, it sucks. For a lot of the older guys and, you know, um, I don't want to say I'm near, near close to that yet. I'm going to, I'm going to do this until, as my buddy told me, uh, Scooby, right. He was just like, I'm going to do this. So I can't. And then after that, then I'll move on. So like I've exhausted all. Um, movements. So, I mean, I'm sorry, I'm going to do for now until I figure it out. So, dude, I love Scooby Ryan. How do you know Scooby? Right? Descenders. Oh, he did school. We played with the vendors. Yeah. Awesome. He, I think he was like a two star athlete coming into U of a, and he just became a. He just became a ball or the U of a boss, or he's 100% all the time. Like going, you. You know, we'll have like, not walkthroughs will be a little shells and like, he'll, you know, he'll give that pop to you. And I'm like, I'm pulling around the corner and I hit them, like, you know, reach kind of stalemate. I'm kind of deal and he'll try to hit you. Like you just, you can't mess around with him, but like, He does it because, you know, he plays like that. He wants to play that all the time. It makes sense. You know, really cool dude. Um, last time I talked to him, he was going into an MMA tournament. Wow. He can be like, I've seen him do some stuff. Like you can check out his Instagram. He's got some cool stuff on there. He's a beast. I'm definitely a big Dennis could be right. Have been for quite some time. So, uh, yeah. Give him my best, please. Yeah. You have a fan growing up in Tucson. Anytime, anytime with somebody special comes through. I'm definitely a fan. So. Love that guy. You know, speaking of an informer. Defenders players. We are a famously, an anti Cardale Jones podcast here now. Yeah. W w what's what's Cardel, like what's it like playing with them? He's a great guy, you know, he's very cool. Like. Um, sure, sure. Sure. No he's serious. But he still likes to have fun. You know what I mean? Like, like for example, like a really cool thing. Nice. So we would come on Monday nights. I believe if I remember correctly where we would come in and watch film as OHI running backs, sometimes tie-downs and quarterbacks just to go over the bliss tape and he would buy us food. So like he actually would bias like. You know, big Chipolte way buffet spread like that. Cause he's also kinda got some buff. He's got to Japan, gold card, I think, or something like that. But like, like he's really cool. I don't want to, like don't judge him based off of that little interaction. He's actually a really great guy. That's good to hear. It's a good, it's good to hear. Paul, what do you call him now on the podcast? Sharmane little shop. I saw that you're calling them sharp and soft. I was like, eh, Can't begin that rap. I mean, He's a really good guy. That's all I gotta say. He's been awesome. And he was really cool when I was there and stuff like that. So do you think he is someone that would be interested in coming back in 2022? I don't know. I'm not sure. I'm sure. I mean, I know he's still training. Uh, I don't keep in touch with them. Um, as much. Um, as like a couple of the other guys, but it looks like he's still training and I don't know what's going to happen. So. Uh, my other big question for you, Anne is as, as someone that, you know, I w we were big exits out guys, you know, we went to DC, we were there for the dragons, you know, DC, the first game and all that. And. Then the league sets down and it's like depression or, I mean, I, you know, I can't. You know, whatever all you guys are, you know, went through, but. When I wa when I woke up that Monday, And I saw, you know, the rock to buy XFL and it was on one of these XFL, Facebook groups not taking what Mark is talking about. This, like, this is the dumbest thing in the world. But it was real right. What was your, I mean, I was waving at my wife. I was texting Paul. Like, what was your reaction to find that out? At first I think is real right. To be honest, I was like, kind of blown away, but I was like, all right, well, that's awesome. Cause like, Most of the stuff he does. When it comes to movies and like just the way he goes about himself, the tequila company, and now the XFL, I think he's going to be really successful in running that company is I think he's going to put the right people. Um, with the group that he has that bought the league. I think they're going to get the right people in place to really get this league going. So do you think, do you think that there'll be more eyes now on this league now of the rock is. Oh, yeah. Not that, not that there wasn't a lot because of McMahon and the second startup, but like, I think because of the rock and how big he is, is like a figure in the world nowadays. With all the movies, like I said, the movies and the terror mana tequila. Which I love. It's awesome. But that's a different story, a different thing, but, uh, he's just, I think it's going to be turning a lot more to be like, this is the guy like. You know, um, I think that it's definitely kind of changed the way people look at the leak. One of the conversations you've had with other players about this transition. I had a conversation with one of my old teammates who was actually a teammate of mine in Tampa and in DC, we were roommates in DC. Um, We were like, Oh, like, you know, it was just something small. It wasn't crazy. Um, it was just like, Oh, like, you know, like what if we go back to the same team, like we can be roommates, like, do you want to get our own place? Because you have a dog now. Something small like that, but you know, where. We're just going to see how it goes. Like. You know, um, You know, as much as we, as we know, like in a sense of like how the teams are going to either put back together or if they're going to draft another draft or they're gonna, you know, do it that way, or is there going to. Pick and choose like, okay, the people that can come back and play, we'll bring them back. And then the other guys will get road. Cause I know. Um, one of my buddies, when I, when they delete broke up Deandre. Uh, he's the left tackle for us Deandre. He literally was like, alright, time to go back down to two 60 years. I want you to two 70, cause he was like three 30 and he was I'm like you done? He, this is like, yeah. I mean, I just didn't have the same fire when I left. I was just like, I mean, all right, well, I wish you the best, like. Getting back together. Did you have any interaction with McMahon or with all of her lock in, in. If, so what was that like? I did not ever see Vince McMahon. Um, But I did see all of her luck. Um, I didn't interact with him as much. I've actually met him before that at temple. Cause I was in grad school there I'm still in grad school there, but I was, when I was on campus there, he came to talk to our class and he was like, he's like, Oh, like who were the football players in here? And like, me and my buddy, who. Now Keith Kirkwood who placed the Carolina Panthers? Um, he came up to us like right after class. It was like, you know, shooting the s**t and stuff like that. It was awesome. Really cool guy, really personable guy. And I think it was really cool was that when I figured it was the st Louis game, where before the COVID stuff came out, um, she actually drank a beer and an added it to the big beer snake and that's in the end zone. I thought that was like, One of the coolest things you can do as a commissioner like that. So, Not to disparage Vince McMahon and all, but do you feel more confident with believe now with the rock in charge or would you have been just as happy with Vince McMahon and with everything coming back that way? I don't know. Exactly. Uh, I would say that like, they're both probably really good. And like, I think the COVID thing really screwed it up because I think the league was pretty successful prior to the COVID. And thank you most. Um, sorry, my dog just came with them. So she, I think the whole COVID thing screwed it up in the league was really successful. And I think that if it kept going, the Lea could have kept going and itself. You know what I mean? So, Um, like I said, you know, it's. The system that they've created, like with the rules and stuff like that, I think has made the game really exciting. And. Both both parties were very good at. Are probably going to be very good at the, uh, setting up the sleek. We discussed this. Um, and it's not really related to the XFL kind of sorta, we discussed this on the regular body of the podcast. We're all over luck as joining a group, looking for name, image, and likeness situations for college players. Do you have any opinions on that? I think so my brother's actually in college right now. He plays that bull university he's at the end, um, number 69 as well. Uh, but, uh, I think that they should be paid. Um, there's many different ways like about it. And I think the way that California is going about it, where like, I think it's, I believe correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's. Uh, I guess so. A sponsor comes up to you and says like, Hey, we want to give you money and just, you know, wear our gear, stuff like that. Um, I would think that'd be fine. Like, you know what I mean? Like better players. I mean, you just can't have a team pay you to go to a certain team. That would be the issue. Like if the team went, Oh, like we have this much money. Like you gotta come here. That that's a no-go. Right. And I know that happens a lot everywhere, especially in the sec and a couple other big name schools, like in some of the power size. But, um, I think that. Can you start. I got a doc too. Okay. Yeah. Um, yeah, and he just gets okay. We're good. Um, I think that, you know, I think it's possible. I think that it would be really good for exposure for athletes, especially, you know, smaller time, like temple, like, you know, it's, uh, it's, uh, You know, it's a group of five school, but it's home times. Like some of the teams that we beat when I was there and now could be considered a power, six thing that they're talking about now, like the next conference, but can get a lot of exposure for the smaller schools. If sponsorships come in and help those other kids. So, and I want my NCAA football games back on that. I've been dying for it. I promise you like I haven't, I've been dying. I wish they'd bring it back. Aye. Hmm. But I do like the little update, you know, do you do the updates? Like I don't, but I was telling, read about. Got it. I did like that every year. I do like the little update on NCAA 14 and just figure it out. Do a dynasty mode. So like I play with myself and I was a senior. Which would have game was way past that. Or before that. And then now I play with my brother when he's in the game. So I play on that next class, three 60, so very cool. Very cool. What was it like a, you know, we've had them at the beer snake and everything. What was it like playing in DC? We were at Audi field with the fans there. What was that? Um, different kind of reaction or what was it like with those kinds of fans with the XFL fans? I love the atmosphere and DC dial was like Audi. Like out of all the teams, I put some, like, if you compare like Tampa Bay, so now I was a bigger figure in DC. Um, but I enjoyed it. It was so much fun. The fans loved us, you know what I mean? Like everyone was really kind and awesome to us. And I had a little routine after the game so I can see the fans and stuff like that. So I would wear what I would wear out that night. Um, to the game. Finish the game. Um, They give us beer in the locker room after the game, the bud light seltzers in the, in the locker room, which was pretty cool. So I was like, all right, great. I get to start my night out. And then more called mission that's right next to the national stage, uh, nationals, a park. Right. And when I would walk it's about three blocks or four blocks from Audi field. And I would just go there and on fans would meet me. Oh, your boobs are like, Oh my God, like, let me buy you a drink. You know, I was, it was cool to interact. That was like my home. Type of like routine type stuff so I can get out and see like everyone and like, you know, just to test fun with everyone. It was an awesome experience. It was good to that, to that point. Do you think that's the, also another reason why we're postponing everything? Cause the XFL seemed to be a fan, a league that cared about its fans. No 100%. That's literally the way they told us. HR came and explained the rules. And like they did like a study on everything and how like the running clock to make the game go faster, but also like make sure it's intense, especially like the Asher points instead of just kicking field goals. You know, are extra points that Pat is, they would just do like you another all sense of play. And so I think that was really interesting that really made the game more dynamic instead of going to the bathroom. When the guy, you know, he's going to make the kick aside, we've got a big deal. To now, Oh, there's another extra play. Like we got to stay in watch this. Like, that was one of the big, key selling points they were telling us about. And it was a funny story is that I wasn't ready for that. So I was starting the first game against Seattle. And we ran that, um, the double reverse pass and we threw the ball in a car and you leave the tight end. Um, and scored and I'm freaking out and I'm sprinting down the field. I'm like, yeah, let's go. Let's go. And I'm like lining up for field goal. And they're like, cool. What are you doing? Like we're talking to. Cardell was like, what are you doing? Uh, like telling the old line, you know, We're getting ready for field goal. And they're like, cool. We got another play. Oh, God dammit. So I'm like out of breath. I tried to read on the field. But it was just so exciting. The whole rules aspects. And I think that's why it was so popular. Um, and it was more fan oriented, like you said, um, you know, Compared to the shield NSL, like where it's not done, it's not fan oriented, but it's. More towards the entertainment. It's more corporate and not nuts. That's right. Word. That's what I mean, corporate. Did you, did you like all the rule changes and all of that? What was your reaction? To the XFL, like in that sense, Yeah. Oh yeah, no, it was awesome. I enjoyed it a lot and made the game quicker. And made it more fun for me personally, because you get more snaps, so you get more tape. It was more fun. And, uh, I just enjoyed it a lot. It made the game more exciting to watch too. Like, especially if we weren't playing that day, like just to watch like other teams play and see how like Daisy. Do versus like the extra point stuff. My buddy from the box. So I called me, he was like, dude, like he's like a, another player. And he's like, dude, like I've loved that kickoff rule dude. Like the kickoff rules, like, so say like he's on kick return. So he's like, It's so nice. It's like, say for you, like. But it's also exciting because you know, it's within five yards, you've got to make sure you're in front of the guy the whole time. So, well, that's like now every kickoff, you know, once the X development off now watching every NFL game, you know, every single one it's, you know, You can kick it over, kicking over, kicking it. You. It's crazy. Yeah. Well, you got anything else? I'm good man. The call. We, we, we so appreciate it. I promise you your shirts on the way. We'll get an update, um, with a photo, hopefully when that comes. And then we were talking about. I tried to sell some shirts and with the profits and donating it to the Shriners, to. We'll we'll do a whole thing for it when that comes. Uh, but you know, I really appreciate your eye. Just patients with Astra and just kind of, yeah. Moving around and we try to have fun on here. So we appreciate that. Oh, no problem. I just, I enjoyed the podcast. It was awesome. I appreciate you guys donate to that charity. Uh, it means a lot to me cause like my dad was a Shriner and my uncle was a Shriner and so like donate and then Philadelphia at temple, like, you know what I mean? Just donating to that hospital, which would be a big deal. So I appreciate it so much. We appreciate the time when you appreciate. Uh, your, your, your game on the field, you're playing on the field. So yeah. Thank you so much. Good luck with the, uh, with the football practice or they, and like I said, When the shirt comes. Uh, two 51 25 a piece we got to go into Shriner's so we really appreciate it. Perfect. Thank you so much. Thanks. Have a good day. We want to think whole Boozer for stopping by appreciate his time. And now we're going to talk about some WWE tidbits. And the big story that I saw that I wanted to discuss was Alberto Del Rio. Possibly facing life in prison. Yeah. Well, first off cold Boozer with a sweet guy. Just a pleasant gentlemen. We really appreciate him. Gracing us. Uh, with, with his time today. And, and I know that, uh, I think we're still, I got his shirt in the mail to him and we're going to do that whole follow-up. You know, with, with Printful of it shipping delays and everything, but we're going to get him his, we stand cold Boozer shirt from Printful, hopefully at some point soon. It's coming soon. I keep checking on it every day. It's the bigger shirt sizes. Take a little bit longer to fulfill a for example will over at wheelhouse of the podcast that puts you to sleep after 10 minutes, specifically read only. Uh, he, he just barely got his shirt that he ordered a month ago and he wears a three acts because he's a bigger dude. So, um, yeah, there's, there's a little bit delayed with the bigger sizes over at, uh, the merch shop. But in terms of like an XL that I wear. You'll get it pretty quickly. So, um, hopefully the Stan booze or we stand cold brews are shirt comes to him soon. I'll check on that today and make sure that's on the way. Yeah. And then that we're going to get the photo and donate the money to Shriner's hospital of Philadelphia. And then we're going to try to sell some spirits. Whereas some money for charity. So thanks again. Thanks. Ken Cole. Uh, Alberto Del Rio facing jail. We really want to keep this PG, because this is a really intense story, right? Yeah. I mean, this is what has happened with Alberto Del Rio, just to set some context or if he likes it, when we set context for things that she has now. You know, he was like, He was the big, um, you know, brought in the chosen wrestler. He was Alberto Del Rio. The big, he came in with the limousine. He has all the money. He won the biggest Royal rumble they had ever been at that point, right there. Put him over. He was supposed to be the big star could never really get over kind of, I mean, they gave him a couple of titles, right. And then he went kind of went on the Indies. No showed some shows. Right? Am I, am I seeing some things that anything that's incorrect? Right? Well, the WWE has been looking for years to replace Rey Mysterio. That's the, that's the key. And it's not that they feel like Rey Mysterio is done, but Ray Mysterio is on the end of his career. Let's be honest. So then maybe WWE for years has tried to find the next Rey Mysterio and they thought they had it with Del Rio, which. In all in all intents and purposes. Yeah. Like Del Rio is a very marketable, he's a good looking guy. He was in great shape when he came back. That one, that one. You know, for the hell in a cell. Uh, biggest poppy. You've ever heard. Biggest pop I've ever heard in LA. For sure. Um, but that's more, that's more, that is more of like a Latino, uh, reaction, like Latinos seem to gravitate toward wrestlers that have the same heritage. And when you have the WWE and let's be frankly honest, 75% of the people in WWE are white. When you have someone that gravitates toward you, you gravitate toward them because of their heritage or whatever. That was the reason for the big pop in LA is because there's, there's a Mexican wrestler here. That's why there was a pop. Um, he just, this is a guy that honestly had a lot of the tools in it. It's, it's frightening that that now has his career and his life has gone this way where. I mean, we're not going to talk about the specifics of what he's accused of because they're pretty horrific details. Really mad. What did they charge? I tend to kidnapping right. No actual actual, uh, aggravated kidnapping, not attempted aggravated kidnapping in the second degree, basically. Kidnapping in the second degree means you didn't plan on kidnapping. Someone not to saying planning to kidnap someone is better than actually accidentally. It's all the same thing. It's like murders, murder. It doesn't matter if you've planned it or not. It's murder. So basically the way it looks is like, The way the charges are being laid out, it looks like this was probably a new girlfriend. Rev captions currently unavailable. Captions will return in a few minutes. Yeah, cause they just re yeah, I think they thought he was going to be a big name and bring them in and then he just was a headache. But yeah. Anyways, so he's, he's done forever. I mean, I don't think anyone for. I don't think they'll ever get a job ever again. That's crazy. Uh, So we have the Del Rio thing. Um, did you see your eye? Uh, the Christmas or a Halloween outfit. I'm seeing it right now. That is. That is something else, friend. It's a $99 Andre, the giant inflatable adult costume. It's it's got to like the fans in it. It's like those things that you wear when you're at the CMO. Racks like the T-Rex costumes. I would never wear this thing. Sorry, read. I wouldn't know. Uh, you know, Halloween's going to sink this year. I mean, it's really going to be a let down. You can wear that around that. I don't know around the newsroom are around doing something around the house. I don't know. But around the house. My house is already a mess as it is. I'm working 16 hour days. I've been able to clean up. You should see the counter it's like covered with electronic. Like I'm redoing the office. I've talked about on other podcasts that put you to sleep after 10 minutes, even though it's funnier. I'm I'm actually changing my bedroom around to kind of like make it a bedroom slash office. So. Eventually I'll get around to cleaning this mess up. So I don't really want to add more crap in my house if possible, especially in honor of the giant costume. Um, I did listen to the wheelhouse last week. Yeah. Here are the values of sand in your shoe? Heard about a Smucker's peanut butter sandwiches. Heard about, uh, uh, the prestige. So yeah. I listened to all hour and three minutes, or whenever I listen to the whole thing, took Rosie on the walk and how to have the time. I'm glad you listened. We appreciate that. You know, you know, we'll listen to this every week. I know that's fine. Tit for tat different tasks. We can drop this beef now. Right? Uh, we'll we'll we'll work. We'll work towards a peaceful resolution. I do want to ask you one question before we go, um, So Debbie, Debbie, he had the draft. First off. Do you remember when the draft used to mean something? Yeah. And like John scene going to smack down, like huge deal are going to rock you. I mean, he used to be, and now they do it every year. You know, that's kind of when they shake up the roster, you know, you have the roster that's on Friday, you have the roster that's on Monday, even though last year, they bounced back and forth forever, but then it's, we're really solidifying it. Um, what do you, what do you think about retribution being drafted as just one. Cohesive unit of like retribution. I was like 18 people in it. It has five. Um, but then all the minions, I mean, there's the five core, but then there's all the minions. There are minions. Clearly. Come on, like beat up the ring and they like tearing everything down. It's the same people. Okay. I thought there was more, I mean, I thought they had like the, the named people and then there was like a name people. Uh, no. That was original, but now they've kind of whittled it down to where they've got the five and Mustafa Ali, of course, it's Mustafa included in the five because they sent Mercedes Martinez back down to NXT. But, uh, yeah, there's only one girl in the group now and that's me. Um, and I think what's her name, refreshment or something. I don't know. This is just ridiculous. I'm sorry. Yeah. I don't know if you, I, I didn't watch any, man. I just, I kind of listened to the recaps of who got drafted around and it just kinda made me think about. Is it, you know, so Elias came back and I was thinking like, wow, I guess he was hurt. But then we're talking about. Thanks. Baron Corbin. Yeah. We talk about Matt riddle being drafted and I just think wasted opportunity. And then we talk about key Lee being drafted and Wade was really high on it and not to make fun of the way, but he was saying. You know, this is a good opportunity because you have drew MacIntyre has, you know, the main heavyweight face. And then you can have kind of Keith Lee as the other main face, and then build all this stuff around. And I just, I listen to this and I think Andy, have you ever watched WWE, like, they're not going to do that. They're going to bury Keithley next week. You're never going to be hope not, you know, and it would be smart if the WWE would a book, this thing. Where the let's, let's be honest. How old are the people in the hurt business? They are going to be hurting in about five years. Cause they're all like near damn near 40. Shelton Benjamin was Brock Lesnar's like roommate in college. They were talking again on that PW church last week, they called them the mini four horsemen. Yeah. They think it's cool. It's not baby. I podcast is really like it people really let group business. Okay. Yeah. Okay. But here's how you do it. Here's how you make Keithley, like the next star. You feed the hurt business to him. You have him go over all of them, even Lashley. Cause there's no money in Lashley. There never has been. And I'm sorry, but when he came out, when he came out after WrestleMania weekend, the pop was not there. He was like, Oh, here we go. I've never liked Lashley. He had the headband. Because he has no eyebrows to stop the sweat from getting in his eyes. I don't know. Uh, and then when it. When he fought Umar. Maga. We're not getting into it. We're not getting into that recipe match. Uh, last question for me. I know this is an extended episode. I'm sure you have email. You have lots of other things to do and directing you. I'm sure. Dorothy. It's like, why is this episode so long? Um, What your boy. Nobody's boy. I will never get to make the joke. I was going to say your boy LAR Sullivan, but it's nobody's boy. Can we give up on our Sullivan? When I tweeted out. Yep. It's really bad. And I, you just keeps getting worse and I mean, When you're, when you're C whatever. AAA. His official title is, is liking tweets, making fun of your, uh, Film debut, Lars. Um, you should probably just leave. Yeah. The joke with Lars is he said some pretty, uh, uh, questionable things about sexual preferences. And then he, himself, I think it came out starred in some, uh, A homophobic. Yeah. Sex. Porn, whatever. Yeah. But it was, it was bad. And so it was a really terrible, like that. First off he came off looking like someone that was, um, Kind of bigoted and not whatever. And then it came across that he was a hypocrite and none of these, none of these looks are good. Looks for all our Sullivan. No. I mean, even he doesn't look good in the ring. I just, I don't understand. I've never understood the hype with him and I'm sorry, I just don't get it. I am. I am happy about Mandy Rose going to money erotic. I got to mention that too, because. Yeah. Okay. But I mean, you. You can push any, there are a million, how many wrestlers are there in the world? How many wrestlers you can push any wrestler in the world besides longer Sullivan. I think I completely agree. You could, you could put shop on the main roster and push him. If you gave him the push that Laura Sullivan got Chapa would be massive. Yeah. All your eyes because you don't believe I love chocolate. Then then, then, then the, no I'm saying they need to keep him on NXT and a way felt ruined him. Don't ruin him. Don't ruin him. Don't ruin. Gargano. That's the best thing that's ever happened for them to stand off the main roster. I completely agree. And with that, I think we're done. I think we're waiting. I think we killed it. I think, uh, I think we, I said Mark had a 23 minute long podcast this week. I thought we're going to, we're going to beat that. Definitely beat that we want to think whole. Boozer for his time stopping by. Big props. Thank you. Cold blues or killed it. He just messaged me. I'm going to message him here when we get off. Absolutely killed it. Thank you so much. And that is, as soon as he gets that shirt we're going to do with the photo, we're gonna, we're gonna do the money for charity, all those different things. And we really, really appreciate cold Boozer. Uh, and there's a lot of, um, you know, the XFL guys, if you're interested in chatting, we're fun. Uh, I, I assume TSL guys are following me on Twitter now. We're fun. We can come up. The answer. We don't need to talk about the XFL shutting down for the 18th a million time. We go, you can just talk about fun stuff. Let's talk about what you plan to do going forward to, to career. I mean, that's, that's definitely what we wanted to talk about with Cole. And again, I mean, we have our issues with Sharman, but if Sharman wants to come on and discuss things, Colin's vouch for you were willing to give you a second chance. Give us a second chance we can drop this ridiculous beef.

XFL Markcast Episode 9 - Jimmy Butler: Criminal Mastermind?

Why don't, why don't we start right there. For the second week. XFL bark. You know what I'm gonna do? You don't want you to brighten your spirits right now, right now to brighten your spirits. We don't need the 50 subscribers on YouTube. You're upset with yourself and I want to make you feel better. So here's what I'm going to do. Read here is what I'm going to do for you. I'm going to my Twitter. Profile right now. Okay. This has been a disappointing morning. We just found out for the second time in nine weeks. I wasn't recording the video portion of this podcast. When we started, I had a whole bet calling out Paul for claiming that he was 95% of the personality on the app. Big news. That's not big news. I was so proud of all of that too, but we can never recreate. So proud of it. And I was so annoyed. That I was like, Oh, my God. I'm good. I was like, I was like, I'm going to, I'm going to go ahead. And I'm just gonna. I'm going to say, you know what, let's record this tomorrow night because I'm, I'm upset now. But see maybe this was all ploy. Because just to read was upset right now. Reid was upset right now. And this is why I'm showing 95% of personality on this podcast. Read was so upset right now. Cause he was busting my chops about not having the XFL wild cats in my Twitter bio. So there you go. You don't even need 50 subscribers on YouTube. It's right there on the verified account. Just for you read. Let's stop complaining about it. Let's do something else though. Let's do something else. If we get a hundred subscribers on our YouTube channel, I'm going to send three shirts too. Three of I'm going to send one shirt, a piece to three of the subscribers on YouTube. So subscribe to our YouTube channel. I'm going to eat the cost on this. I will send one shirt, two, three of our YouTube subscribers when we hit 100 subscribers on YouTube. That's great. You can go to actually go to the XFL show.com/youtube. That's a nice, easy URL I've made out XFL show.com/youtube takes you right there. Cause we don't have enough. Like we haven't existed long enough. It's all punch in numbers and stuff. And that's the reason why we want the a hundred subscribers, because once we get the hundred subscribers, we get the custom name. So anyway, long story short. Reid was trying to do the stupid petition. Um, he's in a bad mood now because he screwed up everything. So. But to make him feel better to boost his spirits, to improve morale here on the XFL Markcast. I decided to give him what he wanted and added XFL Wildcats fan to my Twitter bio. I hope he's happy. And I hope that you'll subscribe to us on YouTube. So that reads efforts to get me to add that are all for not again. I will send one shirt to three different people. If you subscribe to our YouTube channel. Thank you. Thank you. Is this better now you feel better now. I feel good. I was so proud of that bit though. I was so proud that I had, I long story short. I was scouring Twitter this morning and trying to update my Twitter bio. And I discovered the fact that Paul had put in his Twitter bio that he was 95%. Personality on the XFL, Markcast. And if Dorothy is listening to this, I'm serious, she's fire long, either turned it off or falling off or spin bike now, listening to this, but yeah, Paula. Is it funny the second time around though, either. I was so proud. I mean, I'll take, so we'll have an audio version. You know, what's going to happen. You know, what's gonna happen. And we're going to play that, that little incident. Another, like we're going to play that probably 15 minutes into our wheelhouse podcast will just happen because 10 minutes. Of the wheel house podcast. Put you to sleep anyway, read. So you won't be able to be awake when we play that bit and make fun of you for doing the same thing twice when, uh, yeah, we'll never hear it. Anyway, I, we got a lot of news today. We got a lot of acts that found news. We got a lot of stuff to talk about. Um, so let's get into it. Uh, I I've heard a lot, you know, I've read a lot this week, watched a lot of videos about the XFL staff, 20, 20 to spring. What do you think about it? I think this is a great idea. It's a fan centric league, and I feel like a broken record right now. It's a fad Cedric league. Uh, I think that that's, that's, you know, we're, we're in a situation where we're worried about the pandemic and if we rush things, then maybe the pandemic is in a way in 2021. And because of the fan centric legally. They definitely want the fans in the stadium. And I think that this is the best way to go about, you know, Making sure that happens is to put it off for another, another year. Yeah. And that's what I was trying to tie to Dorothy too. About it. Cause they said, you know, like MLB and like soccer and the MBA, like they got money in deals. They can do all this. They need to have fans there. They got TV rights and all that, like XFL, even in the original agreement. You know, they were making up a ton of a ton of the cost with, you know, butts in the seats, you know, selling stuff at the game, selling merchant, the games, you know, we would go to like century link. There'd be a line around the block, trying people trying to get, you know, merchandise. I don't know why they didn't just order it online, but you know, it's a lot of that in the concessions and stuff. And you just can't run. I mean, you could, I think you could run the bumblebee, but clearly they don't want to do that. I think we had hoped that they would really rush it and do it this year. We want to have it this year, but. Um, yeah, it'll be it's technically theoretically 493 days until the XFL 2022 lines. And we will be posting episode number 79 of the Markcast the Friday before the XFL 22 launch, if it is the Saturday after a big superhero. So here's what we're basically saying. We want to thank our content providers, the, basically the stuff with the people we steal stuff from or plagiarize or whatever. Uh, we wanna thank them for keeping us afloat during this difficult time. And hopefully they keep pumping out the content we want to thank all of them, like from XFL newsroom and XFL news. I believe it is all the stuff we talk about. Keep the stuff coming, please. You know, if we have any stuff, we'll share it with you as well. We, we, you know, Sharon share like, so hopefully we have enough content to discuss. And, uh, I was, I was really happy about the news. I'm glad they're doing it. And I'm, I'm hoping. Even, you know, even if, even if the Wildcats decided to move, to leave LA, which could happen. Man. I know. Even though, even if they do. Still stay at Wildcats fan. So they were talking. I mean, now I think, I think the key to now is they were going to do it in, you know, let's say they were going to do in 20, 21. You know, I think people just thought, okay, you're going to turn the light switch is back on. And like, everyone's going to be in there. Clearly, that's not the case. Right. You know, we're going to wait. So now, you know, We might get new coaches. We're definitely going to get different teams, you know, new teams, kind of everything. I mean, just really like shakes everything up. I think people thought, you know, Oh, everyone's just kind of hanging around. I know we've talked about that. They had, there had been interviews out where only like 10% of the staff that had been hired by the XFL had found new jobs since the layoff, just because of COVID and obviously everything. And so. Um, I think now it's definitely going to kind of just revamp everything. I think there's this potential to have, you know, totally new teams, totally new star players for everybody. I mean, it's just not going to be just turning everything back on and going again. Right. And, you know, there's so many hires they need to make again. And who knows, maybe I know that there's, there's the, we've got to talk about all of her luck here in a second, but I know that there's a, you know, maybe there's a chance they settled that lawsuit and we can. The rock and his team can convince all of our luck to come back. Maybe that's maybe that's another positive benefit. Of the delay of, of course. Uh, we talked about this before we were. Were rediscovered. He was not recording. Uh, we talked about, uh, the fact that maybe they're producing. Maybe they're going to produce a lot of content. A lot of behind the scenes documentary. All the over the top streaming services. That are coming out like peacock for NBC AMC TV has their own. AMC TV has their own, um, Their own up over the top streaming service to where you could watch, I guess, episodes of better call Saul before they're on AMC or something like that. It is AMC. Can we stop down? What is AMC doing? The walking dead came back this week, right? It'd been off cause like they hadn't. They were in whatever season 87 or whatever, and they hadn't finished like recording and COVID shut them down. So the air, the staff that they had aired, then they came back like a super long finale episode. But now I find that AMC is ending in two years. But they're doing the spinoff with Carol and Daryl. I'm like, what is happening here? And now there's another spinoff. It's like the world of the walking dead, or there was fear of the walking dead. And now there's like beyond the walking dead and it's like teenagers in the high school. Done. Yeah. There's somebody spinoffs. Now there's so many spinoffs now. I will say this better call. Saul is great. I thought don't roll your eyes. But as one. But that was scary. I mean, they worked out, it worked out, but that was, that could have been bad to spinoffs workout when it's not a major character. And I don't think Saul Goodman was a real major character in the breaking bad universe where like, For example, we compare it and I know we're getting off on a tangent here, but this is where the 95% of my personality takes over on this podcast. We get off on these tangents where like on cheers. We had a spinoff called Frazier. Frazier wasn't a major character. Like if it had been norm it wouldn't have worked. If it had been Diane or Kirstie alley's character, Rebecca. It wouldn't have worked, but it worked because it was Frazier because it was a guy that we didn't see that much on chairs. And that's why the spinoff work. That's why Joey didn't work from friends. I was just gonna say that that's why Joey didn't work. That's why it didn't work because he was a major character. So. Um, I think that a spinoff with Daryl, probably not a good idea. No. I mean, we need content, right? XFL. There's going to be, cause we were talking about, you know, before. Trying to find the network email. Maybe there would be like a streaming platform we have maybe Netflix wants to get into the live sports. Maybe Hulu wants, you know, I mean, we've talked about this. That you know, with the exit fallow. We'll be worse off on Hulu then on like Fs three. Or whatever. I mean, I don't think so. I mean, I think that they, at some point. You know, you kind of got to look at your options and maybe they're smart that way. And they're going to produce this behind the scenes. Like. I'll let us get to know some of the coaches, some of the players. You know, I just don't think it's going to be a hard start February 12th or whatever, 20, 22, like, okay. Exit. What about content, you know, visual watching stuff starts. And I think there's going to be staffed for months and months leading up to it in interviews and behind the scenes and all that. And you bring up a good point because Hulu does do live sports. Um, you can watch any premier league soccer game on peacock. Maybe this is the only Avenue that Netflix is not touching right now. This is the only thing they're not doing right now. I mean, they're getting indicted in a court of law in Texas for that cuties movie, but they're not touching live sports. So maybe. Just maybe, um, this is maybe an and how. How many for Netflix that would be, that would be tremendous. That would be termed as exposure for both Netflix to get into the live sports game and for the XFL to be on the number one streaming service. Well, and the rock is filming that movie right now for Netflix. Whatever. He's already got a relationship with Netflix. Well, I just think, I don't think he could be worse off in some of, I mean, it was great when they, they, you know, the games are on like Fox or whatever, or ESPN, but then by like week five, when it was on, you couldn't even find the channel. Yeah. That's okay. What's that. I know, but lots of staff, lots of articles. Um, but yeah, 493 days, 72 RS, 79 episodes until the Markcast. Uh, what article do we want to tackle first, today? Um, I mean, let's talk about COVID. We could talk about COVID the reason why we're probably not getting access. I fell until 2020 and there's some COVID news. Around the ELEAGUE of NFL. Of course. Or that more today, right? Um, yeah, we had a, another Titan player test positive for it. And the Raiders player too. I didn't see the Raiders player. Yeah, they had the Titans and see, now they're getting into trouble. Cause they were like trying to do biweekly. Right. And rejigger. And now we're like, yeah. It's getting, it's getting a little dicey. So of course, Jordan taboo is positive for COVID. We discovered that I think shortly after we recorded last week's episode of mine. I think it came out on Friday. They might've come out the day, the episode aired. Yeah. Yeah, that was, that was, uh, We dropped an episode. We had like all this news happen and I had to actually come in and put it this a little disclaimer. On the episode like, Hey, Louis was recorded before we found out that the XFL. Scott was coming back in 2022. And then we also saw the Jordan tell me would've been. I had tested positive for COVID. We record that Wednesdays generally. And so, yeah. When the accident. Breaks news on Thursday. It's not good. Our recording schedule. Yeah. I wish they would coordinate with us. They could even come on the Markcast and then now. We'd love that. Hey there. Hey Dwayne, come on. Come on. The Markcast has come on. The Markcast. You going to be NFL stuff. And that was something that was really interesting. I don't think we had talked about was you had this NFL stuff. You know, we're delaying games, whatever it may be, the other, maybe they're going to ultimately have to delay, you know, parts of the season. Right. Instead step out and that's when you know, Could potentially push back the Superbowl, you know, the play outs, all sorts of things. And Mike Mitchell was on the news this week, talking with Mark and. They had said, you know, if the NFL wants to delay this, Hey, we gotta do the Superbowl the next week. Networks, aren't going to care. Right. That's fine. We'll do it. Whatever you guys gotta deal. But at the XFL is scheduled. Hey, we're launching the Saturday after the super bowl. And then they moved the super bowl and then yeah. Hey guys, you know, it's actually, we're going to need to push or something like they're not going to care at all. So it's almost, and maybe that was part of the speculation too, where they decided, Hey, you know, we don't even know if the NFL is going to get through in, you know, 20 whatever the weeks are, you know, with all the delay. Like the, the, the gap weeks or whatever, but like, Maybe the extra belt. They said, Hey, we just need to have a clean start next year. When we know that we can start for sure on this date, because you don't know, we don't, I know the Superbowl is sat, whatever. We don't know if that's going to be, you know, it might not actually happen on that day. Right. So, and then, you know, I think, uh, to auto sync, Those point that he discussed. I think what we're, what. The NFL is bound and determined. If they have to play a super bowl on Easter Sunday, they're going to do that. And I, I don't, I think that's, that's the situation that we're, we're seeing with pro sports is that they're going to have their finals no matter what they're going to. Oh, A champion. And I think, I think, uh, we need that as a society is to have those champions and I know people are poo-pooing on the idea that, Oh, it's only a 60 game season. MLB who's, you know, Is this really a championship again? I keep going back to the idea of that. Whoever wins the championship this year, whether it be the Los Angeles Dodgers or the New York Yankees. Um, Whoever wins a championship this year will be more of a champion than the 2017. Used to Mastro's. I, so this is true. So I just, we have a wedding coming up in November and I always send them like a pre, you know, Hey, fell this kind of stuff out. And they linked their wedding website on there. And it was talking. And they're like, I can't remember if it was the bride and groom. They're like huge. He used an Astros fan. I was like, Oh, Paul would be so p****d. It's not that I hate all Astro stands, but I hate the ones that are like, yeah, we cheated. And what, and they stayed banging on garbage cans at spring training. It's like, Bro. Come on, man. I guess. Into the skin, but at the same time, like your entire championship season, And in 2017 is not valid, like 95% of baseball fans. And you. Most of those Houston Astros fans. I'm gonna tell a story. I'm going to tell a story because I tell stories on wheelhouse and redoes listened to it. Cause it falls asleep after 10 minutes, but there was, there's a friend of mine that I have on Facebook, her name's Jenny. And I'm an outer for this, cause this is like this irritates the crap out of me. It irritates the crap out of Nidia nitty is like diehard, Dodgers fans. Like she, she was born, they wrapped her in a daughter's blanket. She's an Angeleno. At heart. Um, As long as I've known Jenny, she's been wearing LA Dodgers merchandise. She's been like, you know, LA. A fan of LA despite I don't think she's really lived here. Like I lived here. This has been spent her whole life in Texas, but she's been an LA Dodgers fan. So imagine my surprise. When the 2017 world series, she started rooting for the Astros and I was like, you've been where I've known. I've known you for like, Eight years. And you've been a fan of the Dodgers and Elvis and you switching it up. I was like, you're done. You can't be understanding where you're done. You're done. Just like that. So anyway, most Astros fans didn't start watching baseball till 2017. And I rest my case. Ah, Where, where are we at here? We we've lost. We've totally lost the ship to that. Cause. No, because I'm of the personality is coming through and I'm showing you I'm 95% of the personality. Well, we'll, we'll get a little we'll listen. Listens to our podcast, by the way. He supports his podcast. You don't support his it's fine. And he says, he says that we're getting better. He says we're improving. So. To get worse. What if you hired the new worse. It's true. God bless all these, all these, whatever let's. Well, let's say let's round this out here. The 20 to 2022, uh, XFL newsroom, our boy, James Lars, and talking about people that listen to the, uh, to the Mark, asked James listens, he's written this review, he's got a mass coming this way. He's going to send us a file that we need to ask. He's talking about, you know, what was the right choice for the XFL? Why 2022 is the right choice. Rushing not the right idea. Teams can build chemistry before the season, which I think is great, you know? It just would've been tight. It would have been really tight coming in, in October trying to get through it, whether they've been a little, a little, a raft, and then hopefully COVID-19, you know, it won't be a factory next year. We can go back to watching football games. I can go back to my front row seats, essentially field, you know, um, It'd be nice. It'd be nice. So you think 20, 22 is the right the right decision. We all, I think we all agree with on that. Uh, I, I did post them and we'll get into our wrestling talk later. I posted a poll on my Twitter. I said, biggest disappointment of the week. The accident foul 2022, not returning or the XFL Knight returns. Or Mustafa Ali. To be named as the leader of retribution. I know the answer to that for me. Well, I actually fell accents. On one 63 to 36. So I wasn't family. Yeah, I would have found we stopped. Ali is the, uh, the lead heel and the new retribution angle. That's been that's how many months now? As it has been sucking it up on the WWE. That'd be too long. Since it started. But, uh, and then, uh, This lady that they had always tweet to me. She goes actually about being deleted now their year is not a problem at all. So. Whoa. We're glad we have her approval on it. We have her approval. Something we did. I think we, I think we should talk about this too. Um, I think we should, since we're kind of on the topic of Dwayne. His endorsement. We should talk about that. We touched on that you call people snowflakes. We got a couple thumbs down on their YouTube video. I think that was. I think there was probably cause. Come on, grow up. Yeah, I do. I think so. Normally we get off them. Zap, we got one thumbs down for the Chad Ochocinco episode. Maybe they're just a hater, you know, maybe, maybe just that's fine. I mean, Chad's probably got some ruffled, some feathers in his career. Yeah. Thumbs down on that. I have to think. It's us talking about, uh, yeah, the rock. Haters. You're not doing something right. That's what I always say. Yeah. And if you know that if you listen to more than 10 minutes, a wheelhouse podcast, Uh, but yeah, I mean, any, any other follow up on that? Any other follow-up about the endorsement? I, you know, I think people are free to endorse whoever they want to, and that's that hyper-partisan stuff is what got us in this mess to begin with. And I think that like, let's just let the election play out. Let's not be a holes to each other about who we're supporting. And let's just, you know, whoever wins, wins and. I'm not going to make any predictions on that. Um, I try to predict that last time. And then I saw the exit polls and I went, Oh, The minute I saw the exit polls before they even declared one state had been one. I knew. So let's just let everything play out. And then, you know, I just. Hyper partisan stuff. That's what's got us in this mess to begin with. It's like, we're so polarized. Well, and, and, and the rock [unknown]. XFL. I don't, I don't let that be. I mean, I honestly, at the end of the day, the rock is going to be like, uh, Shareholder. I mean, he's not going to be as much as we think that it's like, aye. I don't think they're going to be as like the face of the thing is I think a lot of people do. I mean, I think that the rocks are going to command. He's going to tweet it. Staff. He's going to voice stuff. You know, he voiced the big 20, 22 promo video. With Danny. Right. They've voiced that. Uh, but I, but I just think that like, You know, I mean, I guess I watched Debbie Debbie for years. Do I think Vince McMahon is the greatest guy in the world. Like, not necessarily, but that doesn't mean that I don't support the guys that are in the ring and support people that are doing everything. And the same with the XFL, whether you agree with the rock or not, and that's great. And please, you know, have your own whatever, but it shouldn't stop you from supporting the players. You just want to see the guys get play time, get, you know, get taped, get to the NFL, get success in the XFL, do whatever, right. It shouldn't stop you from wanting to see that PJ Walker and Jordan TAMU and everybody else gets success. Right. They didn't want to see Cardell Jones, Canadian success, but except Cardale Jones. Cardale Jones. That is the only way please direct all of your, any, any, uh, rash feelings you are feeling about Dwayne, the rock Johnson, endorsing Joe Biden. Please write that too. At CJ one. One two at Twitter, you know, you call them soft yesterday. Essay WFT. So did you, did. That's where you call it. I started that. You called him, you guys. I quoted Enzo Moray and all them. Uh, as a w F T soft, I've decided to call Cardale Jones, Sharman Jones from here on out. Let's see Sharman soft. I did give him a one-star review on bootcamp. Yeah. Yeah. I did. I said that, yeah, he blocked us on all social media. We were trying to do a joke, but, uh, but on the other side of it, we had, uh, as a follow-up to our Cole Boozer, you know, we, we have the big. Scott last week, the big bet that we were going to get cold Boozer, sanding, mature, you know, we had them do the Markcast he didn't know what podcasts he was listening to you. He called it the market cast. We all had. Tons of last. Uh, Cole Boozer. He's probably going to come on the podcast next week. He thinks we do. He thinks we have a great time. We're we're sending them a shirt right now. It's in transit. Cole's gonna, he's gonna take a photo with the shirt and then we're going to donate. He wants to donate the money to the Shriner's hospital of Philadelphia. We'll do so I think that's great. Once we get you. You know, we gotta make sure it's all official call, got to make sure it's official. I feel like Paul's a standup guy. Well, he's a five-star radio that, you know, Cammie on, but cameo at a minimum. So that is. Sharmans only one, but he's five. Coles five. And I was thinking too, and we can talk more about this next week, maybe with Cole, you know, maybe we'll get a little more eyeballs on that episode, but I think maybe we should sell the, um, that, that we stand cold brews that, you know, we have it at the shop, but maybe like next week of Cole wants to come on. If anybody wanted to buy a, we stand cold Boozer shirt, we could donate like that portion of the shirt that we would have made. Like, money-wise add that to the total, something like that. Not, you know, we're not trying to bankrupt ourselves here, but I think that, like, I know, right. The thing works where we get some money and then other covers the cost or whatever. So maybe next week with Cole, we can talk about that, but try to sell some ways we stand cold Boozer shirts and then. And those proceeds will go directly to Shriner's of Philadelphia. Let's do that. Yeah. But caused a standup guy. I think we're going to try to get them on next week. I knew that we had too much staff for the XFL and everything this week and the 2022. And I said, you know, I think we want to really feature you. We can have the Cole Boozer episode. Right. You know, and the other will be as opposed to we stay on Colby's or question Mark, maybe the episode could be Cole. Boozer stands us. That'd be a first. Anyone to stand me, that'd be a first. Here first. So I'm moving on here. Now I saw this and I was like, Oh, interesting. Apparently the XFL is contacting their former players, which is great. Great. Um, and I think that, like, what do the players do in the meantime now that they're waiting till 20, 22? I know. Did you see where's the letter I wanted to read the. Why am I not getting. I got a tweet from Bruna Reagan that said players got a neat, nice email today. No extra deals deals to share, but just happy to know what the overall plan is. It says, uh, October 1st, we hope you and your family are healthy and safe and doing as well as possible during the uncertain and difficult time. Earlier today we announced the exit. Val would return to the field in 2022. We're going to take our time to ensure we build the league of culture, passion and purpose, uh, with the benefit of our players. First coaches, staff, partners, and fans. Uh, given the uncertainty of public health environment that 2020 to relaunch we'll provide a safe game day experience for everybody. And like you said before, that means, you know, getting fans into the building. Um, you know, our 2020 season will rise on the foundations. You helped establish the players that are getting the email, which is why we want to thank you. And, uh, it says visit xfl.com. Thank you, Danny, Dwayne and Jeffrey Pollock, who. You know, breaking news kind of it's been rumored for a while, but it's still very much with XFL. I know we had talked about, you know, is he going to stay on this president or COO or whatever, but yeah, Jeffrey is still involved and I think he's going to be a key, uh, you know, part of the team here moving forward. I completely agree. And would that being said, they have a, I guess on an exhale news hub, they broken down kind of how this would work. Um, in terms of, I guess, timeline, am I reading this correctly? Yeah, so. I think we talked about this before we started recording. Um, and, and talking about how. Before you started recording. So, uh, Mike Mitchell was on this week, uh, on the podcast with Mark and he's heard that a lot of the hires are going to not be until June, which. Uh, made me kind of scream in my head as someone that does a weekly. Oh, we, yeah, if we're waiting on hires until June, that's a, that's a lot of weeks between now and eight. October tell Jean, but, but basically saying how, you know, they gotta get the commissioner and staff. He is predicting a may, June as kind of when you're going to get the coaches and players. Then you would do the draft again in October, like we did last year. You. You know, spring or winter training camps in December. Go home for the holidays, come back in January and then go kind of like we did last year. I mean, it seems like it worked really well, but I think a lot of people as included thought, Oh, okay. That means we're going to get higher as like coming up now. And it's probably not going to be for a little while. Yeah, it's unfortunate, but I mean, at the same time, you know, theirs. This is, this idea is too big to rush back and there's a lot of money. That'd be, that's already been put into this. I mean, I know that. In terms of what Vince put into it and in terms of what the rock. And his group put into it to get it from Vince. That's not as much money. You know, maybe 5% of what Ben's probably put into it. Um, but he never, this, I never did. All that he. He never put that much into it. I know, I know. I know we're, we're spit balling here, but I think that like, Dude, I, I don't have $20 million to throw around and if I had. You know, $40 million and put $20 million in her. I'd want to do it right. And I want to make sure that my investment was, was recouped. So, um, again, this is, you know, this is a. Still big investment, even though it's just. Kind of a drop in the bucket to what costs to get everything off the, off the ground. It's still a big investment. And I think it's just, you know, doing it the right way. And you're making sure your investment goes to the right. It gets its familiar fulfillment and gets recouped well. And, and they said, I guess Jeffrey Paul has been quoted in and they said that he views the XFL is a hundred year brand. And so if. Wow. I'm just quoting I'm his I'm quoting Jeffrey pilot. I love the ambition. But he said that he, they view. It is a hundred year brand. And so I basically, what is, what is one extra year? In, in the scheme of the world. And, and, and I mean, it's like with Kobe, right? What is one year in all of our lives? We didn't really get to do anything at all. What is. One year and at least maybe we'll have other stuff to do waiting for the XFL. Then we did this year. It is insane to think that like, I just. I can't process. I saw, I saw, like I was, I was looking through my old email and I actually. At some parts of this year has gone, has gone really fast and some parts have gone really slow. Like March seemed like it lasted for forever. When everything started shutting down. March was just grinding to a halt. So it was interesting that you see, like the last trip I did could take in really the last year by digging was in January of last year. And then I got, I was looking through my email and I found an old plane ticket. When last time I came and saw you and I was like, that happened a year ago already. Yeah. Discuss the particulars of that incident, but yeah, let's keep going. Let's keep it moving. Now it says, yeah, I mean, we were supposed to be at, during the night had tickets. We were going to go to Houston for the championship game. They hadn't released like that, that, you know, the actual tickets to the game yet. But we had, we had flights booked. We have that hotel era, Airbnb bugs. We were going to go see a Al Walker. I just happened to be playing the night before or two nights before that. No, but we, I mean, we've seen Kygo a lot, but now it was going to be, which I actually prefer unlocker. They're very similar, very similar guys. But I actually prefer our walkers do D D D D D versus guy goes. How's that. They're all those DJs. Like they. Dude. But I actually prefer the Al Walker, but anyway, we were going to go, ah, yeah, it's crazy to think all that, all the canceled plans and everything between the way. Dorothy loves the new song. Loves it loves that feel like. So does well, and you'd know that if you listen to more than 10 minutes a week, This week, you had a guy on from the Batman dark Knight or something. Robert's on. That episode drop Wednesday. I'll check it out tomorrow. When I run I'm on it. You guys should do a video version of the podcast and then I could watch it. Well, here's the, here's the deal? Here's the deal. We're we're, we're holding off showing Will's phase until we get to a certain subscriber amount, which guess what? Um, we are at. 25% of that. Slated number that will wants to get to, so, yeah, we're definitely gonna do a video podcast. That's coming. So we'll. Yep. Yep. Yep. Uh, what else do we got here? Actually Paul newsroom, we kind of talked about this. Uh, already, but they posted the, um, the XFL trademarks, all the trademarks all have now officially transferred to the rock and Danny, whatever. So we should be expecting our cease and desist letter from the use of the exit. And their merchandise. I had coming up at some point. But, um, we kind of talked about this, but, but basically like they own all the XML stuff now. So like the Hitman and the, he hate me and the Outlaws and all that day on everything back to Owen. That's true. Yeah, I'm seeing that right now. They own all the old stuff to maybe bring, bring back some of those names. Well, [unknown] yeah, at least to be able to sell some old merge. W would be pretty sick. I mean, that's like a no brainer also. Um, The XFL they're updating the site. Right? They've got like a new FAQ on about like tickets. If you're, if you're still waiting on that refunds. The frickin XFL dragons are like the only team that not all their jerseys are on there to buy. If anybody in the world. They're not listening to this podcast. You can go on there right now. You can buy, like, I don't know why you would want to DC. DC defenders. Ventek Jersey or like a replica Jersey. And why would you want to serve and Jones Jersey? Well, maybe you want a cold brews are on the back. That's what we would do, but. You can't get a dragons. I have my misprinted one here, and then I have my one rebel guy, but I had to wear my authentic one today because, uh, It's in the wash and, but you can't buy. It's the only one they need to fix that they have real people now working with the thing they're updating the site. You need to fix the store. I'm just sorry. I completely agree. Trust me. Issues with online stores are a big problem for him. It is, it is. I can, I can speak to that. Personally. We're still working on, we're getting the hats figured out, guy emailed today. We're working on it, getting some new, getting some new hats going and getting the right stitching on their set. Of course, if you want to buy any XFL Markcast merchandise, before we get a cease and desist and have to change our logo. Please log on to XFL show.com/merch. There he is showing you now. You're cool hats. They're cool. We're getting out and we got cool shirts. Um, Dorothy loves or a tank top, honestly like that. The tank top, no joking aside there really nice. All the shirts and. Is it really, it really is a spectacular job. So Paul's got, you know, we all sorts of merge@moxycash.com or XFL show.com/merch. I'll take you there. So, yeah. Both, both directions. We'll get you there. So moving on, moving on, moving on, moving on with the gun. Ah, we got all of it. I know their article from EXFO newsroom. We got all of our luck. Uh, my, uh, my scorned ex uh, ex partner ex-girlfriend ex you know, dislike, we've talked in the past a C on all of our lock, doing all this fun stuff is like being broken up with someone and seeing them posting photos with their new. They're new bow on social media and the people. So use that word. All of our lucky is, is joining the beautiful game group, which is, um, I don't really, it's a sport Adecco has this, he's joining the beautiful game groups, board of advisors. And I guess this is, it sounds kind of similar to the, to the Redbird capital group, but it's basically like a group of rich people that are going to want to be investing in sports leagues. And kind of the vibe I had gotten, trying to look through some of this stuff this morning was a, if I'm wrong or please forgive me, but. There's I'm at how, like, you know, all these, like a billionaire owns like a, a, you know, a sports league, but let's say like, all these guys want to get all their money together and have even more money to like, have investments in some of these leagues. Right. Cause there's like, it seems like a hedge fund. Yeah. Well, you figure like there's only so many teams, right? There's only so many teams and so many leagues. And like that's why Vince McMahon started the whole XFL in the first place. Was he wasn't rich enough. Sorry, but he wasn't rich enough to buy a, you know, to buy it. NFL team. And that's why he started the XFL. I mean, that's like, isn't that fact that this point that we like, we know that I think it's a combination of that. And the NFL is very, very particular on who becomes an owner of a team in this league. I don't think Vince would be allowed to be an owner in the. In the NFL, I just don't, I don't see it. However, I want to throw a hypothetical situation as you right now. Alright, here we go. This is the trade. It's like a, basically a trade. Yes. What would you think if the cons. The Khan family. Yep. Of the, uh, the bang. The Jacksonville Jaguars. Yep. Owners of the Jaguars and AWS and owners of AEW. What if the cons. I traded the Jaguars to Vince McMahon for WB. What would you think. Like the cons own all wrestling as the downest that's never going to happen. So they're, they're killing me with AEW. I know. You think Vince wants a team that bad? I. I think it depends once an NFL team that bad. I really do. I mean, it's crazy, but yeah. Now. I mean, I think they're killing it with AEW. I think vans, I don't know. I think he's kind of given up. I'll never know why he gave up the XFL. We've talked about this in the past. I think if he just would've stuck in there. I think he would've been fine. Yeah, but again, like we're, we've had our own, uh, moral issues in terms of supporting anything. Vincent man has. So maybe we wouldn't be here if it weren't for this whole, this whole move. Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe not. I don't know. I can't say, but I definitely say that this, this whole idea that the rock and his group purchased the XFL has got me excited, more excited about the XFL now than I was when it first was announced, because again, having our moral issues. Um, but yeah, I think, you know, You're right. If he would just stuck the course out, maybe this would've been a different situation, but we honestly probably get out of the season this year. I mean really if, if he, if they just want to for a lot of people and I just don't think he wanted it to. Yeah, it caused a lot of money there for a lot of people and keep people at home. And I'm not going to make a political statement about, uh, Vince at all. It's clear what side of the partisan divide his on a, given his, uh, WW stands on how, how, how he's made that an essential business in Florida. And we've discussed that. So we'll just leave it at that. We'll just leave it alone. Move on to the next topic. Anyway, any other thoughts on that? I mean, obviously the obviously super. Super intelligent guy. I mean, they want to know he's on the board. They're an investor era, the board of, uh, just the board there of doing, I, I hope he would come back. I hope that, you know, maybe again, I brought this up, I think this was probably before we were really recording. Then maybe there's a reason why, um, They're waiting until 2022 is maybe to get the lawsuits settled. So all of her luck can come back. Maybe that's that's a positive, I don't know. Yeah. And just to round this out, it says the beautiful game group is one of a series of recently formed private equity groups. Like, can you invest in sports team ownership? Uh, they're willing to take a passive live and they partner stakes and major franchises, and they also want to develop sports and leagues. It sends a, wants to be more active management and cutting costs and adding value. Over time. So anyway, I mean, all of our legs keeping in there, I thought he was going to be the commissioner of college football. You know, they had them on ESPN earlier talking about Kobe. I think he's been there, been there and done that though. He has been there and done that. Like literally been there and done that he's already checked that box. So. Uh, moving on. Uh, I, I, this is something that matters to me because I'm very much in the, in the mindset of people getting taken care of in terms of worker rights and stuff like that. So I saw this reid sent this over. I was like, I definitely want to get to this. And I think this is a very good thing that, uh, I group of a group of former players formed a non-profit group to advocate for players' rights, kind of like a union. And of course, I know that Vince was not high on unions. He hasn't been high on unions. They tried to unionize wrestling in the 1980s. They should probably try to do it again. The. Idea that they're trying to. Excuse me. Form a group to represent player interests in the AAF. An XFL specifically, I didn't know this. This is insulting that when the AAF folded. The players had to find their own flights home and pay for them. They weren't getting paid that much to begin with. Yeah. At least the XFL went when the guys, when the guys got cut. When it ended, I, they at least guy taking care of, I think for the most part. Uh, Nazi dragging him into mind. But I do know that Brandon silver as did have some sort of issue with his Airbnb, like charging them for the whole, like 10 weeks he was supposed to be. I mean, I make fun of the guy, but I do follow them on the online and. He had mentioned something about, you know, like he obviously cut out early, right. They flew him back. But they were trying to charge him like the whole 10 weeks or whatever that he was supposed to be there. But yeah, no, the acts of Val did, I did take care of the guys and they at least paid them through. I don't know if they ended up paying them through the 10 weeks. I think they said they were going to, but I think they at least like, Kind of ended, tried to kind of curtail out the payments a little bit to keep them satisfied. But I think the reason they curtailed. The payments out a little bit is because it was kind of like. And two. To veer off into wrestling. Again, it's kind of like how ECW, how Paul Heyman went to work for WWE. And then there was, yeah. And then, and then there was like a 90 day period, because if you go into bankruptcy, they can, they can legally withdraw any money you've paid any talent. And so that's why he went to WB and waited three months and then declared bankruptcy. And maybe it was the same situation. Why. You know, they curtailed the payments out and waited the 90 days and then declare bankruptcy. So no one would go back up to the players, but it's a tough situation. That's ridiculous. Yeah. So this is called the a w. And they United football player's association. Uh, that you AF PA and you know what you're going to like even more about this. Uh, organization, Paul. Or you're going to like this. They followed me on Twitter this morning. Oh, wow. I was going to say, I was going to say the, uh, the, the seem like the guy that's leading this USPA is Kenneth Pharaoh. Pharaoh. Am I saying his. It's narrow at the dragons. He played for the dragons. So that's going to be your wheelhouse and they, and they follow me on Twitter now. So I'll follow them back and follow their, building it up. You know, they don't have too many followers right now. Brandon that over to me so I can follow them too. Um, anyway, did they guy anyway? It's good. Uh, they. I know I've seen Greg parks right about this too. And tweet about this, that he thinks that they need to get some NFL players or personnel involved in this. Right. Cause it's kinda like. You know, it's kind of like a union for the minor leagues. Right. Okay. But you need to, you obviously need to like grow this bigger, but this is, it's a good starting point. And, uh, and yeah. So there you go. And speaking of foreign players, I've got to put you over here and I don't want to do this, but this. I'm going to do. I got to really put you over here and by putting you over me and give me, give me some compliments. You were basically. Worshiping at the feet of Donald Parnham. Yep. We've been worshiping at the field. The guy's bees. He's a hell of a player. You were like, Kissing you were looking as boots. And this last week. First NFL touchdown. He's shown he belongs. So we want to congratulate Donald Parham. And read called it. Riesman watching read noticed back in episode five of the Markcast you go back, check the tape, check the tape, read complimented this man so much. And look. You know, talent is talent. Talent's going to come and rise to the top. And that's, that's probably a great thing that the XFL gave him that we want to congratulate him on his first NFL team. Touchdown. And, uh, you know, San Diego has a great history. I said, San Diego. Oops. The chargers have a great history when it comes to tight ends. That I'll let me, let me, let me finish my thought here. And then I'll say something else that that's funny. That's been going on around here for a while. So we'll probably like a few days. So San Diego has dammit. I keep doing it. It's hard to not say San Diego chargers. It is difficult. It is so difficult. The charges have a great history with tight ends. Uh, Antonio Gates being one of the best tight ends to play the game. And maybe Donald Parham is going to follow in his footsteps. On that note. There are some San Diego ones that are really, really mad. Mad bro, because the charters, Twitter account. Openly. Uh, roots for the Dodgers to beat the Padres. Oh, that's an a player. And so. San Diego. Are mad, bro. They're mad. San Diego. There gotta be like the most passive people in the world. I mean, what do you do in San Diego besides just like a chill on the side? What do you do? You have the greatest weather in the world. I do. I do believe a Seattle summer beats a San Diego summer. And I'm going to tell you why, because it's green in Seattle. It's beautiful. It's it's slightly better, but I mean, overall, Seattle rains. So of course it's not going to beat San Diego weather. But yeah, Padres fans are mad that the chargers Twitter account. Said go. It totally was a dig at the it's totally dig it though. What was there because I was tweeting first off, I was going to say, I'm pretty sure when I was complimenting Donald Donald par him on the podcast. I think you said. I think you asked me who I'm not kidding. I didn't say that. But, um, What was there? We were trying to tweet at the chargers and they said that the hash flag was like bolts up or bolted up or what was their dumb. Chargers. Oh, yeah. So, uh, a coworker said go bolts on her Twitter account. The other day, uh, for the, to like support the chargers. And it had the. You know, cause like you need to do a hashtag something. It has an emoji. Sometimes. That's a flag. Okay. That thing, the whole, I think the whole thing it's, it's not a hashtag, it's a Twitter calls it a hash flag that is. The hashtag is a thing where the icon shows up after your hashtag now. And she put gold bolts and I'm like, Hey, just, just a heads up. Tampa Bay already won the Stanley cup. So she's like, what is that's ridiculous. So I guess bolt up is they're new. Flag. That's fine, but anyway, Don, parms killing it. The dude is ease a big guy. He's a big guy. He's got a big, you know, Tearing it down and he did guts. I was, I was happy to see that, uh, I think the chargers lost though right by that. They fought though, Justin Herbert, Justin Herbert is there is going to be their franchise quarter. He's great. He's he's tremendous. But he came out of Oregon. I mean, it's to be expected it's to be expected. So. I want to talk about, or do you want to move on to WVU? Uh, we, Oh, the other thing, um, Oh, we talked about Kohlberg's or, uh, P Ramirez keys. One of our he's a fan. I think he's written a review. He had a question and I wanted to make sure we talked about this. And I think we covered part of this before the recording snafu. He said, why do we think that the teams are gonna have their players return for those that can and want, are they going to redraft all the teams? He is hoping that they keep as many of the original teams as possible. I think that they're going back to the board across the board. Everything's fresh, especially if you're going to have the potential new coaches. What do you think about that? Do you think? Um, The players that are still available. Do you think that they're going to be coming back to the original teams or they're just going to redraft? I think they'll redraft. I don't, I don't see any reason why you would, you would make them go back to there, you know? The teams that they were on. I mean, they, I think maybe, maybe it's an elective thing where it's like, if the team and the player. The team should have the right to hold the player. And then they should agree. And if the player doesn't want to play for the team, that team should let them go. There should be like some amicable way to do that. I think that's my, maybe the way to go about it. But if the team and the players still want to stay together, Don't don't let them to redraft them. Just say, okay, we're gonna, we're gonna stick with this guy. Um, you know, Sherman Jones is going to stay in DC. Um, yeah, maybe that's the way to go about it. But, I mean, it gives, it's not like they're locked in and it's going to be, I live in like, you know, it's like they're living in LA or they're living in, you know, Tampa Bay or whatever. I mean, there it's it's there's no, there would be no reason to be like what you're actually, you know, you're contractually obligated to go back to Seattle. Like they all live where I live. I know, you know, you, you make fun of your boy, Brandon Silver's, but I mean, Did you want him back? Uh, no, I would, no, I would not. I don't necessarily even want Zoran back. I know we didn't have an offensive collar or an offensive play caller and Zoran was trying to do like double duty. Uh, I don't know. I know Zorn's the Seattle legend, but I don't know if, if we want something back. That's high, but that's a good question that I have then, um, with the. With the added. Interest at the rock brings. Are they able to get better coaches, maybe coaches. And I liked Jim Zorn. I really do, but I feel like Jim, Zornes kind of a retread, like he's failed everywhere in the NFL and was kind of like, we're going to go with this guy. Who's a Seattle legend because he, you know, he was a quarterback. For the Seattle Seahawks. Is the rock going to be able to maybe attract better coaches? Well, I think so. And that's what they were talking, um, on wherever I heard that, that, you know, cause all of our lock used a lot of pull to get like Bob stoops and stuff and like yeah, he had those connections and, and. And I think I give a Bob stoops or Jinja in someone, they turned him down before, you know, like all of our, like really had to like make a, make an effort. Like he pulled one of the coaches out of retirement. I think that the guardians. Forgive me right now, the names. Yeah, pull them out of, uh, you know, retirement. And so, yeah, I mean the rock and then they're going to have other people, Danny. I mean, they're gonna, they're gonna attract different names and ultimately that's you probably going to be better. Right? I mean, it can't be, can't be worse to get some new blood in there. So. That's true. So would that being said, we're moving on. Dorothy wants us to, I know last week you said. I said like, geez, Louise. And you said we needed to have a new exclamation where we want to swear on the podcast, but we don't actually want to swear. Was she recommended at barnacles. Cause that's what SpongeBob, that's what they say on SpongeBob. Okay. Barnacles. It is. So if we use Louise barnacles, No more. Geez, Louise. Just just a lot of barnacles. I'm going to check that off. The to do list. I have that on their task, you about, and we did that and it's particles. Good. Great grand wonderful. I do want to talk about this Jimmy Butler thing real quick. Just tan, tan. Gentili sports-related. What ways do you mean Butler? Get paid per year playing for the heat? Uh, let me pull up this contract right now. And while I'm doing that, you can probably vamp a little bit, but Jimmy, Butler's a hell of a player. So we were watching the game. I have not watched any MBA this year, except for on Sunday. When the heat beat the Lakers for game three, I guess it was. But Dorothy had heard about this on NPR and why this talk about it? Just kind of making fun of like sports stuff, but so Jimmy Butler there in the MBA. They're in the bubble of their down for that. And, uh, he has been selling coffee inside the bubble for like $20 a cup. Dry trying to like make a business out of it, trying to make a business out of like selling coffee to the players. And now it's saying that that one of his trainers is trying to undercut him. It's a whole economy. It's like the Freakonomics economy inside the NBA bubble. Jimmy. You make $37 million a year. You have a four year, $142 million contract. Why do you need to sell $20 cups of coffee, Jimmy? He says, he says he could expand the brand after the plant, after the finals. You have it? If the whole basketball thing, this work after Jimmy Butler. Dude. I did. I love Jimmy Butler, man. 76 ERs fans hated on him because he didn't resign was six. We're going to be better off without Jimmy Butler. And now look, Jimmy Butler. I'm going to say it. By the time this airs. Jimmy Butler will have lost in the NBA finals to the Los Angeles Lakers. It's going to happen. And if it doesn't happen, Then the Lakers, you know, have become the golden state warriors of 2020. But from my, from where I stand from where I said the Lakers are gonna win by the time this podcast airs. Jimmy Butler is still in a way better spot with Miami than he was in Philadelphia. So I love Jimmy Butler. I love his game. I love his intensity. I think he's great, but he probably needs to stay out of this coffee thing because he's already making $37 million a year. Let it go. If you look at. This is a tweet from IRA winter, man. And it's. Yep. He's verified. I'm a no. He says it's like the whiteboard. From Jimmy Butler is coffee and it says big phase coffee cash only. No IOUs. Small $20, medium, $20, large $20. But you can get a latte. You can get a pour over a cappuccino, Americano espresso, rather than I am. And the cafe. So there you go. $20. Everything's for $20. It's like when McDonald's did the like dollar, like whatever size drink you want. It's a dollar. I was just about to say that. Thank. Thank you, Raven. But I eman made sense. Cause then it was like, just however thirsty are like wherever you want. If you're really thirsty, if you're not sit there. If you have a dollar. And, and you can get a large for dollar. Why would you ever. No, no. Who does that? Sharmane Jones will get a small Sharman Jones would get a small. I'm really not. That was what was, were you more disappointed with the XFL not returning until 2022 or the fact that Mustafa Ali. Which I see no money in. It was the leader of retribution. So this is true. I listened to, uh, the PW torch. Yeah, I know. I've cast on my day. Wade Keller is the biggest moose off all the Mark. In the world. Why he goes everything like everything you would ever want to see in a, in a wrestler like Mustafa Ali has it all. He's got personality. He's got charisma. He goes, wait, this is all true. Way killer thinks he goes, if there were fans in the building and not like the thunder dome with the TVs and whatever, you know, cause they don't WB does net fans right now. It's all the thunder dome. It's like the Skype viewers. He thinks that if we stopped all, we had come out as the leader of retribution with bands, whether it be in like a huge crowd based pop and not like this he'll turn that it is supposed to be. I don't think so. Well, I don't think so either. Here's what I think. Here's what I think when they started pushing we'll stop Ali. And then most awfully got injured. Fans were cheering for him because it was someone different than the people. They always push. And then when. Mustafa Ali got injured. That feeling of them pushing someone, the fans hadn't seen pushed combined with the fact that Kofi Kingston had done so much for so long. And hadn't got a push. That is what started coffee mania. And maybe Wade's basing his, his gauge on that. But. If Ali had gone to WrestleMania and wrestle for the title. The fans wouldn't have been as behind it, as they were Kofi. Wrestling for the Russell, a wrestling for the title at WrestleMania. And I wasn't even that big into coffee, but the whole deal with Kofi Kingston was here. He's been in Debbie, Debbie for like 12 years had never had a title. I'd never had a major title. I'd never had whatever. And they finally pushed him and he won. They like was that two years ago they pushed him. Yeah. And, you know, and he won and it was supposed to be this big deal. But yeah, I mean, even that I didn't, I mean, I'm all for giving guys pushes that deserve it. I mean, I would rather see coffee with the title then Roman reigns. I mean, just because it's someone different. I mean, ultimately at the ISA, I think you can play that. I said that last week, I think you can put enough money behind a lot of different guys and make them as big a star as Roman reigns is. Right. But I think, I think this thing with Roman reigns now is we've never seen Roman reigns is a heel champion. Well, you are all in the Roman. Now I do. I'm not all in, but I like the story. I think it's probably the best thing they've done with it. You have to, you. You have to admit, it's probably the second best thing they've done with him. The first being the initial field. When he came out as the initial number of the shield, that was probably the best thing they did with him. It's it's interesting that the best things they do with Roman involve him being a bad guy. Well, and also having more talented people around him, prop him up. Pauline through. I mean, let's be honest. Jay who sows a better talker than Roman reigns. Yes. Much better talker. And you would, you would, you would think that like, I feel like. Paul Heyman being joined with Roman reigns is helping Roman reigns because Paul Heyman can talk to Paul Heyman is the best talker right now in the business. No one can dispute this. Yeah. When I'm talking about active talkers, I mean, yeah. You've got the rock and you've got Steve Austin who can talk, you know, you can talk even. An, uh, an Eskimo into buying ice. You've got those kinds of guys, but currently active Paul Heyman. Best talking to business. So if you have him working with Roman, it works because Paul can teach. Roman had a talk. Whenever I think about Steve Austin, I was thinking about, cause Steve's got his podcast. On our sheet, Laotian out here at the broken skull. Oh, so the deer Birch divas said he is a redneck. I mean, he's a good guy, but he is. Highest drier in the history of WWE, but he has that he has a redneck. They, I cited equated that Mustafa Ali being named as the leader of retribution is like if X block was when he was like the leader of DX. That was accurate, accurate analogy. That would exactly be what it is. Cause there's just don't see any money. I don't see any, I don't see any money in the retribution thing anymore. Cause I mean, it's just. We've seen this. We've we've gone through this before. We've done this. Yeah, wait. We did it with your boys, the nexus. It seemed very nexus like what they were doing. And I just, I, I don't. We'll have any money on it. Now watch anything else on wrestling? I just, I, I was so out of loop day, this week, I'm just. Yeah, no, I mean, I saw that. I mean, that's a big thing right now, and then you have Randy Orton and okay. They're going to do hell in the cell. I mean, that's just, it's news fast. I mean, they just, it's fine naked. They don't want to have someone else new for drew to wrestle right now. But, I mean, there's retribution. They give a lot of talented guys there and I just think. I don't, they don't know how to push anybody anymore. This isn't the way to do it. I think that. Yeah, I don't know. It's bad. All right. I think that's good. My omelets sitting there waiting for me. So I'm going to go eat that. The way that I like Uber eats. Yeah. I've been a member for like 10 minutes. Oh, okay. I saw you. You getting a little antsy. I was like, I'm hungry. Like, like we discussed before the recording, I'm having some blood sugar issues as of late, because I've been burning the candle at both ends. No meter gives you as like violate my own health. Privacy act, whatever HIPAA. But yeah, I'm, I'm not, I haven't been feeling my best. Uh, early in the morning. So reid's gonna let me go eat my omelet. We thank you for listening to the XFL Markcast. We have to plug some websites though. Go for it Reid. We need our reviews still ratethispodcast.com/xfl. We're giving away free, uh, free masks. I don't know if we had, we had five last week. I don't know if we had any new ones come in this week, which is a little disappointing, free masks. I do think it's kind of a political thing. I think people don't want to like review or are they like, they don't want to do the thing because the mass and like, I don't care. We're just trying to get reviews, but the masks are sick, they're cool. They're net gainers. You got to wear one anyway. 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XFL Markcast Episode 8 - We Stan Cole Boozer?

So let me know whenever you're ready to go. I got a bit. I got a good deal. I'm ready. Well, I always just wanted to wish you a happy international podcast day. Paul, how are you doing happy international podcast day. I can't believe we have our own international podcast day now. That's. That's tremendous. So I was just waiting by the door. I was wondering when your gift for me is going to arrive, why would I buy anything for you for international podcast day? We've had this podcast now for what? Wait is this week eight. Now I just would've thought that we would have it. I didn't buy anything for well for international podcast day. Well, I share a lot more video clips in world. Does. Let's put it that way. I'm the podcast. Here we go. And it's a competition, ladies and gentlemen. Is between XFL and we'll. House. Uh, so I, I do want to start today now. And I was thinking about this this morning. You, I know you woke up, you're feeling a little under the weather. We appreciate you doing the podcast today. You have to be flying high this week. Why am I flying? Because your boy, Bobby Roode came back on Monday. Wrestled your other boy. Drew MacIntyre, WWE heavyweight title match in the main event. And Rob, were you going crazy? I watched this this morning. I thought Paul had there had been the losing his mind. Now I'm not going crazy. Bobby Roode is not WWE world title materials. So why would I be going crazy? Well, we all know you're a Bobby Roode stands out. No, I'm not. Uh, anyway, I, I do think there's going to be a little bit of that content filling today. It's a little, little light in the accent foul, but there is a bunch of staff that we can talk about. I've got my list. I've got my list is always. Your Google doc. We'll go through that. Yeah. I was watching Mark on the news this morning and he goes, Yeah, you know, in the next week or two. We're really hoping. And I go, Mark, we are all with you. We are really. That there's this thing breaks out. Then the next couple of weeks, I will tell you what. But now we've got a lot of stuff today. Did you see what I sent over? Was there anything that really struck your interest so far? Well, first and foremost, I mean, on the heels of what happened. Let's see. Wednesday night. Oh, Tuesday night, I'm sorry. Tuesday night. Uh, the rock endorsed Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, of course, that, that caused a lot of people to go. And get upset about that and say, and I've seen people that say, they're not going to watch the XFL now because the rock is getting into politics. Okay. I saw that too. I have all, I also got, I posted our video of the rock, tearing down the metal gate from his door, from his driveway. You know, we, we broke it all down last week. Yeah, people giving the middle finger to my post. I mean, this is like, Huh. Did you delete those middle fingers on that post? It's just about the football here. We're really, and that's the whole thing, and I don't want to get like, super into it on the podcast because I know that you get enough of it. It kind of in your normal life. And this is really like supposed to be, not that, but yeah, if you're not going to wash the XFL because the rock is, is endorsing Joe Biden, then, then I don't really have anything to say to you. Well, here's, here's my, here's my point. And that would make this really clear. For the people that think. Endorsing a Democrat candidate. You like these, the same people call Democrats and liberal snowflakes. And then you're gonna turn around and say, Oh no, gonna wash the XFL because the rock endorse, Joe Biden. That makes you a snowflake. And that's all I'm going to say about that. Cause I don't get, I don't want to get pit. Super political and point fingers here. I do that over on the other podcast. Pretty much. I call it stupidity all the time, and this is stupid. Um, but yeah. I mean, that's what it is. The one thing I wanted to take from this is, and like I said, not to be political, whatever side you want to take 12 million views of that Instagram video on the rocks, page 4 million views of that video. I looked this morning on the Facebook page of the rock, Sharon, that plus all the different reshared and everything. That's 16 million views of those XFL helmets. On the rocks desk on the bookshelf. Like I don't want it. That's all I'm thinking about. That's all I'm thinking about is XFL visibility. I don't want to get into any of this stuff. We want to talk about football, but, uh, it's 16 million views on the. Zignal helmets is, is all I'm thinking about. That's that's a glass half full way to look at it. That's what we gotta do. I mean it's 2020. We got a two glass half-full. You got to find some kind of optimism in this. Yeah. A year. Yeah. But I'll keep it radio friendly and say crazy here. I was going to say something else messed up. Another term for messed up, but let's, let's keep it moving. Um, before we get too deep in the podcast. I do want to do this. Yeah. I want to plug that the mask giveaway. We're doing that. You know, we're given the way the five masks each week for people reviewing the podcast. Uh, we had some awesome reviews come in this week. So we, all those orders have been shipped out. We really appreciate everybody leaving reviews for the podcast@ratethispodcast.com slash XFL. And I wanted to read some of them on the podcast is to show that this is a real thing, and these people are, are going to get mass. And that I told everybody to send over, um, you know, follow. Photos and stuff so we can share them, but we add wedge seven 77. He said a great podcast for exit found is if you're an extra ball fan, you have to listen. Plus you can actually hear what they're saying, which is that goes into our. You know, our audio fidelity talk on the, on some of the podcasts about some of the interviews, um, uh, James Larson, FM podcast for two guys who love the XFL, always enjoy listening to the show. A recce Pavlik. Sorry. I butchered your last name. Love the accent foul. Can't wait for it to return. These guys are entertaining, then help fill the gap with interesting topics until we have the XFL restarted. Again. Keep rolling. I go defenders. I can't endorse that with our, um, Thoughts about Cardell Jones. I go the fenders and Kev, Kevin, uh, Kevin new three 60 great podcast about all things XFL plus a little pro-wrestling talk. Never hurt anybody. Keep it up lads. So, thank you guys so much. All your mass are going out. And again, this week we're doing five masks for the first five people that they do reviews. Uh, rate this podcast.com/xfl. And, uh, we really appreciate all the support. So I just want to get that out before we get too deep into all that shenanigans. I got planned lads. It was the guy British. I know, but he, uh, no. Oh, yeah, he was cause he was either national ones. Yeah. So he is, cause he messaged me and said, if we get shipped the mass international, maybe. Maybe he's been doing WrestleMania that we've been to maybe possibility. Maybe he's the guy that says. Um, Moving on. I'm gonna, I'm gonna vary. I'm in a very sharp mood this morning. What do you think about the NFL staff just came out this morning? Titans are going to play on Tuesday or Monday or Tuesday. Well, I mean, here we go. Basically here we go. It's I mean, I'm, I'm surprised it took till week four for us to get some kind of COVID breakup, but thank goodness. It. It took that long. And the fact that it took that long. Is a good sign. It's optimism. It's okay. Well guess what? They might have a way to control this and to compare, look. When hockey went into the bubble. They issued over 30,000 tests over the course of the bubble. And guess how many cases they had. Zero. I mean something we said about a bubble and now now major league baseball's officially in their bubble. Uh, they have. Shrunk everything down to where, uh, the better the teams are, the better records are hosting the first round of the wild card. Then they're going to be locked down in LA San Diego, Houston. And. Uh, Dallas for the remainder. I know it's Arlington Arlington is Dallas. Same thing. The remainder of the playoffs to make sure that we do get a viable purse of viable winner of the world series. So basically this point, like. It's good that the ex the NFL has only had one positive kit, a few positive cases so far. Explain kind of outbreak. One outbreak. The four and then there's some training staff or whatever. That's that's fortunate to say the least. So, um, I think that that's not going to deter anything. And if we average one of these outbreaks a month, Uh, we'll, we'll get a full season. We'll definitely get a full season and that's, you know, that's to be expected, especially the fact that we haven't had any news on XFL 3.0 or 2.1 over, we want to call it. Uh, The more that we have football and not have to worry about the XFL coming in and saving us. So to speak from a football. Existence. Um, that's, that's a good thing. And of course the NCAA, the last power conference has decided to go ahead with a seven game schedule starting in October. I believe that is the PAC 12. They're only going to play seven games. Uh, makes you wonder how they're gonna, how they're gonna do bowl season. If they're going to do bowl season, all there's too much money to be made in bowl season. But then again, how can they make money in bull season without people coming in and watching the bulls? There's so many questions about the college sport right now. And, uh, I'm just happy that, you know, they found a way to do it. With, you know, a limited schedule. I still think it's. Why don't we get the point of coming in for seven games and just like, I don't know. I, I'm just not going to be candid watching stuff just to watch like, Oh, I just need, you know, if we can do the NFL season or hockey or whatever, but I'm just not a big fan of like what, we're just doing seven games like that. Sure. It's like, what's the point? I think the point is just too. Maybe it's more to serve the student athletes to give them draft stock. For the NFL. That could be the reason there's, there's so many PAC 12 kids that go to the NFL from USC specifically. Lets. USC and Oregon are the big feeder schools in the NFL. Although we've got a shout out, Nick Foles for coming in for the bears the other day. And rallying them back from. I don't mean to talk about the NFL so much, but what's wrong with the Falcons holding a lead. The last of the Superbowl after 23 lead, they lost the last two games after holding 15 point leaves. The Falcons debt. And Nick Foles from the university of Arizona. In my hometown led the bears back against the Falcons. Anyway, I digress. All I remember about Sunday football, is it Dorothy? And I went and had brunch and watch the Seahawks, you know, do the Seahawk DD and. Have a lead, almost lose everything. $188 spent on branch watching that game. That was how long we were there watching the game. Five crass. The buses coming our way for the brunch. You did that four times. If you do that for the next month, next three weeks of the month, I know where you're going. Don't start. Don't start. You'd still pay more mimosa. Moses in brunch then anyway. No, but he was a good, it was a good week NFL, but yeah, I, that was, I definitely, it's scary news coming out now. Right. You know, it's been the three weeks now we're going into four. Um, you know, and with NHL, I wanted to talk to you to, yeah. They just ended, we crowned, do you crown the champion in the NHS? Is that what they call it? Crown. Okay. You award that the sound I got, I saw Jeff. Jeff, I'm never going to get his last name, Mandy, a cellie. Uh, Maglio. Leo Chetty. Maglio chatty. He tweeted, like he said, you know, 33,000 tests done since that, since the NHL was in the bubble and not one, not one positive case, which is his crazy remarkable. You know, Every every time they, they award the Stanley cup every time the Stanley cup playoffs, silver in Batman, Gary, Bettman the commissioner of the NHL hands over the cup. To the winning team. The crowd boos, but Gary Bettman because commissioners our heels. Their heels of the, of the professional sports world. And this was the first time that I think a commissioner deserved a little bit of, a lot of credit, to be honest with you, he did it right. You got it. Right. And, uh, Adam silver is doing the same thing in, in the NBA. Again, Rob man forever. I have this stain and even my heart for Rob man for an MLB. Um, because of what happened with the Astros. Um, but I think, I think it's like, it's, it's a commendable thing to actually, you know, Sports are a reward of a functioning society. And. Our lives have felt pretty empty since February. And this is kind of making us feel like. Like, like. Like it's a way. Just take our mind off everything, even though there's no fans. I'm still enjoying what I'm seeing. I'm still enjoying baseball. I'm still, I didn't watch much hockey because my, my team isn't in it. So I'm still glad that. The sports have left, left us feeling some kind of normalcy and, uh, for. I guess, congratulations on winning the Stanley cup. I hate the fact that it's in Florida, which is now the COVID capital of the world, but Hey, you know, Tampa had the best team going down the stretch. So. Uh, yeah, it was nice. He was nice to feel like you could be at brunch and watch football and you know, are the bar that we go to is, you know, really socially distant and you, you know, you gotta go up and order at the bar and you know, you have mass on, if you're not, you. See, did you really say it, but it was nice to be able to go out and feel like we could. Yeah, sit and watch football for them for a change. And yeah, like you said, just have, do something to do. I like to dry this year. It's just so nice just to be able to like, go do something. That'd be, that'd be sitting at home. I'm jealous. I mean, we were still, you know, we're eating outside still here in California, but. There are so many things like, you know, I'm, I'm a big Mark for the Alamo draft house. And I haven't seen a movie in the Alamo draft house probably. Probably the last thing I went to see at the Alamo draft house was like a special preview of a TV show that, uh, That I watch. Did you have. Where are you trying to edit yourself or did you have a stroke? They're made podcast. Uh, let's not make fun of strokes. No, I, I, I don't know if I, you know, Scratch. Uh Nidia and I went to see a special preview of a TV show we watch and that's, that's the last thing I went to at the Alamo draft house. So there you go. Yep. Uh, did you see the rock making news? Good news on Twitter. I posted the bat. He had his fancy XFL football operations workshop on, uh, and he's got his own. Um, customized a notepad with the Brahma bull on it, and then it had a cool, like a football operations workshop battalion at the XFL talking about. Yeah, big announcements coming in and talking about finding the right partners. And saying that there's going to be some announcements coming soon. When do you think that will be a P*****k as the podcast schedule would really like to know how the podcast schedule would love to know when those announcements are coming because. You know, I feel like, you know, we're filling sometimes we're Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil, Phil. I think they're probably coming at the. They might be coming at the end of October, to be honest with you. I hate to say it, but I think, uh, unless, unless the crap hits the fan and we have an NFL season that has a massive COVID outbreak and they go, Oh, Stop everything. I think we're waiting till October to get some kind of, uh, XFL news. So, I don't know. I I'm, I'm hoping it's sooner than later, but I'm thinking it's more like the end of October. Uh, we had talked about kind of why. October, you know, last year they did the XFL draft. And, um, Then they got into training camp and everything. I had a call from van, the man, our number one fan. And that he's told me some stuff off the record, but he did say the heat banks that, um, You get, we could still roll in December, you know? Sam Schwartz, Dean Schwartzman. I'm butchering the name. That guided me and all the rules for the acts of foul. He was on. I know we tied last week about, he said that they had six weeks of 'em. Are you kidding me? They're doing construction in my driveway. I actually can hear it this time. Yeah. So he did. It talked about how, you know, six weeks of getting, you know, players off the couch, you know, to plan. He was just on the XFL show, uh, another podcast and it was a fascinating interview, but basically with that, with that six week, I lag time. Dan thinks, you know, even in December, even if we did draft and then December and then just rolled through. Cause we did the, you. Last year, we did the draft in October, kind of everyone hunkered down for two months and then kind of went to the training camps, everything in, in Houston, and they kind of rolled into the season. Right. And he thinks you could still do, you know, December and kind of get rid of that lag time with that six weeks and Sylvia ready to go. What do you think about starting a little later than October for the XFL draft? Um, I think it's anything to get news on news for us to talk about a news about the rebirth of the league would be great. So maybe maybe comes in sooner, maybe, you know, that's. It'd be great to see them pick up like week one, right. As the Superbowl ends week one XMLs next week after Superbowl ads, that'd be great. That'd be great timing. So, you know, doing like the. The six weeks thing. That would put probably everything. Would need to be in place by mid December in terms of locations and stuff. And again, who knows, you know, they might. They might relocate teams to, I we've talked about how much of a pit MetLife is. It was rated one of the worst stadiums in the NFL. If not the worst. I saw that you did see that, um, So again, you know, uh, I think that maybe, maybe it comes sooner than the end of October because. Honestly. Um, There's so much they need to do. There is so much needed to do. They need to hire people. They need, they need to hire people back. So who knows? One thing I, they had hypothesized and, uh, On a Mark on the, on the excellent news habit. And they were talking too about how, you know, last year and that whole big thing was kicking it off right after the Superbowl. You know, this year it would be like February 9th or whatever it is last year. It was the 13th. I think we were in DC. You know, first ever XFL game. But, uh, you know, That's not set in stone. Right? I mean, I know, I know that they do that kind of it's before baseball it's right after the super bowl. But, but I want to ask you as someone that watches baseball, you know, let's say we all come back normal time with baseball again. What would you say to starting to exit fell after that? After March madness, people hypothesize this year that, you know, they, they asked me if I was going to get creamed in the ratings, come March madness and all that stuff. What do you think about. You know, delaying it and then maybe doing like a late spring into the summer Lake. Is that just, um, or what do you think about that? I think temperature wise, that might be dumb. Um, it's, you know, those are the, the reason that the reason football's played during the fall months, because the fall sport. And I think you kind of need to capture that element of colder weather too. I think he just goes. Hand-in-hand with football. So I'm not sure a spring thing would be, I mean, cause there's there's hydration issues. You hear about it all the time when they start. Uh, training camps in August. There's a lot of kids in colleges and the NFL that. Kind of get a little bit of a hydration issue. So imagine doing that over a three month period and having to constantly deal with that, there's a reason why they've picked a football as a kind of fall winter sport. And there's no guarantees there's going to be March madness because we don't know how many. Basketball. How many schools are gonna be playing, how many conferences are going to allow their schools to be playing? We don't know. So there's, there's a good chance that there's no sports. Major sports that take up our time on the TV during March. And I think, you know, having a February, March. Season, and then concluding in April. Best way to go about it. Best way to go about it. So I'm not sure. Late spring, early summer. XFL season we good. How do you think that they would hold up against how are, how are the ratings this year for baseball? Decent. I mean, I think more decent. I think there's been, there's definitely been better ratings for baseball. Because people, the only way you can watch baseballs on TV, um, you can't go to the park and I need to say that too. I have the MLB TV package. Right. I, I pay for it because my team was out of market. Um, I am frustrated, not for myself, but for Dodgers fans, because there are some Dodgers fans that don't have sports net or direct TV. Don't have spectrum, I should say, or DirecTV. So they get the MLB TV package. And they're blacked out. They can't watch the games. And that's the only way you can see Dodger's game is if you have spectrum of DirecTV. So I think that. Majorly baseball again. Mess this one up, and didn't say, we're going to get rid of the blackouts for this year because we understand everybody's going to watch these games differently. Um, I still think people, I think the numbers were better this year than they have been on an average year, because that's the only we can watch the games. But. You know, who knows? I haven't really been paying attention to the numbers. Just I've been paying attention to the numbers on the field in terms of like stats and stuff. When you say blackout is, Zach is like, normally they say, Hey, you should be at the game. Like we're going to black it out. And yeah, that's stupid that they did. I didn't realize that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Well, I mean, it. It's a contract that spectrum had with the Dodgers, uh, probably years ago before. Uh, what's his name? Court the court. Whoever the whoever owned the Dodgers before the current group, which includes magic Johnson, uh, that guy signed a contract with a spectrum SportsNet to go exclusively on cable. So that meant, like if you didn't have spectrum, you didn't watch games and it kind of hurt. In terms of fan support, like kids were coming up, um, You know, kids were coming up and they didn't really have a, they couldn't really just watch the game. If they, if their parents didn't have spectrum, they weren't watching the game. They really weren't in touch with Dodgers baseball. So. Um, it's just it's. It hurt. It hurt the Dodgers. I think tremendously. I mean, not in the pocket book because they got paid a lot of money to do this. But in terms of like their overall fan support, um, they they've just been on spectrum and then they've just recently signed a deal. Probably was LA this last season to where spectrum is now putting them on direct TV as well. Um, I know that there was a local TV station that carried a few games here and there down the stretch. That was cool. That was nice to give, you know, To give people that didn't afford couldn't afford cable or didn't want to buy cable. That was nice to give them that those, those. 10 games a season, but. I just, I think that, um, That kind of stuff, you know? I lost my train of thought. This is crazy. I can't believe that they would keep that this year. I just figured with. COVID and everything you'd want as many people watching the staff, you know, we fight that back. I did. That's crazy to me. I had no idea that they would do that and I still don't blackouts. And I just, I, I, I shake my head. And last night people were upset. Uh, you know, last was Tuesday night. People were upset about the fact that not everyone has TBN, not everyone has cable. So people were popping on the MLB TV app. They paid $100 for the year. People are popping on that app. And guess what. The games are blocked out on the app still, still to this day. And it's just like, You need to spread the sport. No blackouts. No, that's crazy. That's the one piece of advice I think I would give. Uh, the rock and it's T and his team do not black things out for local markets that don't go to games. For example, if, if. MetLife has only got 5,000 people in it and watching the game. Don't block the game out for people at home. Just don't do it. I will say speaking. Speaking of 'em. Uh, you know, uh, preemptions or whatever on TV. I remember back when the dragons were planning. I think it was, it must've been the third. Maybe it was the fourth week. Yeah, they were in DC and then they were at home, uh, two weeks. And then it was like that fourth week. And I remember that that was the same day that Saturday morning was the first patient that they got the COVID and, uh, in, in like Kirkland or whatever at the, at the senior home. And I remember like we were livid. Because, you know, here they were doing Kobe. Yeah. Preempting the game, you know, we couldn't watch a game. Like I bought YouTube TV and all this. I think he like how mad we were that they weren't doing that. And now just. They think of like how big this issue is, am like that I was, we were like, this is so dumb. Why would they ever do this? Like, we need to watch the game. And now, like, in retrospect, it's like the biggest thing in the history of the world. And here we were complaining that we can watch the dragons lose to. Whether it been loose too. I can't remember. I remember that. That's the definition of first world problems is like, damn it. I can't get my, I was, I was p****d up. They messed up my latte the other day at Starbucks and I was thinking. Took a deep breath and calm down. Then I was like, there are bigger things and then putting whipped cream on my latte. Not very many bigger things, but I hate whipped cream, man. I hate it. Uh, I want to talk about this. Are there call from, uh, Uh, Mickey when on a XFL newsroom. Talking about the play, the pay for the players. And, uh, cause I told him he posted this yesterday. I said, we'd be sure you're talking about this on the podcast. And talking about how, you know, last year, and I think we've talked about this and we SPASS, there was all this controversy about, um, you know, like Brandon Silver's got paid a quarter million dollars to lose games and then all the guys under him. You keep crapping on Brandon's cylinders. Guy. I hold Brandon is not as soft, a soft and sensitive. As Cardale Jones. I tweeted the other day and, uh, cause. Every time. I think I've said this in front of the podcast. Every time the rock shares anything. That already shows me that Brandon Silver's liked it. And so I tweeted and BJ Daniels, like my tweet. And I said, tell the rock that we don't need Brandon silvers in their football league and BJ Daniels like that. I'm just saying. But anyway, but they're talking here. They're talking about that, you know, the breakdown of the pay. You're tying about how, you know, what did we do this year? Do you do a tiered system? I think originally they talked about doing the tiered system when the XFL was, you know, competing with the AAF. And then it was like, once the AAF went away, Vince, you know, a tight pocket. Vince was like, well, we don't have to pay anybody now. There's no, um, No alternatives, right? Yeah. How was that? No. But, I mean, what, what do you think about just the overall idea of paying players more? You know, it was so convoluted where they got like $30,000 and then if your team won a game, then you would get these bonuses or if you played and you won, but like, You know, if your team stunk and you never played, like you wouldn't, you know, you, you would get paid significantly less. And, and how does that compare maybe to other sports that you watch that know more about? I mean the angels absolutely stinking Mike trout is making a fortune. Um, so. I guess, I shouldn't say they stink. They were, they were kind of in the playoff hunt for a little while. Um, Aye. They do need to change their pay scale. It just seems. Weird that they're paying on wins and losses. And. I know that doing that under the guise of, for the love of football, blah, blah, blah. And I. There's a middle ground between what Vince is doing and what the players might want. There's a middle ground there. And. I'm sure with someone who is. Has the mind of a football player, like the rock. Who again, the famous story is he left the Canadian football league was $7 in his pocket, seven bucks in his pocket. I think the rock is going to take care of people. Um, I think that there's. There's a way to make more money that Vince wasn't thinking about. And especially with the rock behind it. And picking the right venues in the right places to hold games in the right, you know, There's a, there's a better chance that the players are going to be taken care of, not to the level of NFL clearly, because they're not NFL caliber players right now. Um, but. Do you put your body on the line for more pay, not white, as much as you want, but before more pay with an opportunity. To be discovered by the NFL. That's the question because we do see, uh, ex NFL players. On rosters right now. And they wouldn't be there if not for the XFL. And the, uh, Exposure. They got. Well, that's the thing too. And I mean, we're basically the XFL is existing more, more or less. To get players tape to get to the NFL. You know, they're going to be playing their hearts out no matter what I mean, I don't think you need to incentivize whatever it was. $1,500 a win or something. Like, I think they're going to be going. I don't think there was one criticism of anything with the XFL was while the players really weren't trying hard enough or didn't care enough. I mean that just wasn't at all. You know, I think I have anything you want to leverage against dance and say that he did wrong or didn't do it yet. Uh, all the support staff, all of the players, everybody was really trying their hardest. I don't think that that was at all a question about anything. No, it wasn't at all. Definitely not at all. Um, other things you wanted to talk about included, um, This, uh, uh, I would guess there was an update for the bankruptcy filing where. Events is amended his secured claim from 9 million to $8.25 billion. And added ESPN and Fox. Uh, to the creditor claim sheet. Yeah, I think part of that and some of the, some of the writers picked up on that. And their take was, you know, does that mean that, that the league is going to try to get back in with those TB partners where we talked in previous weeks about them, you know, solidifying, figuring out that finalizing what they owed, like Raymond, James stadium and the Houston T D E C U. I always butcher that. But, um, you know, if they're trying to make whole, some of these TV partners that maybe they owed money to or whatever does that mean that they're willing to get back in. You know, trying to get back in with them. Cause we need TV partners. I mean, without, without the right TV partner, the XFL literally doesn't mean anything. Right. Right, but I don't think those TV partners are going to necessarily. They're going to differentiate that they're dealing with a different management group altogether, and I don't think it really matters. What Vince's dealings are with them. In terms of what the new XFL ownership groups dealings are with them. This is a separate topic. This is a separate. This is completely now separate, separate from what the XFL is doing now. So I don't think this is there's. There's a correlation there. Sure. There might be a small, small teeny one, but I don't think any. Court filing that Vince is doing now is going to affect a relationship. That the Redbird group and Danny and the rock have with potential networks, but I know ABC wants to get involved. And that's, you know, that's ESPN of course. Um, but yeah, I don't think that. I honestly don't think that there's a. There's a correlation. Well, and I mean, in the rocks, do you know he's got Titan games on NBC? I mean, he's making movies for Netflix. I mean, he's got, I saw it posted today. I don't, I don't know that network. He has like a pilot coming out in the fall. Like a new TV show and then he's producing some documentary about like the soccer players being lost at sea or something. I mean, he's got a ton of different stuff going on. Like, I'm pretty sure that the people that he works with, the agents that he works with to develop all of this stuff, Yeah, they're not, they don't care like what Vince and them and what antiquated TV deal that they had going on. Yeah. And it was a, it was honestly, it was a crappy deal for the XFL. Anyway, you know, they were paying to produce the content. Right. And then they were being hosted on the networks. And then I think they were splitting the ads. And I was trying to explain this to Dorothy the other day did, it was kind of like how. AEW. I think their original DVD was that way too, that they were, you know, they were producing the content for T and T and then T and T was hosting that and they were splitting whatever. And then, you know, they did that for six months or whatever. And now what was it like a $30 million, some huge deal that AWS signed. You know, and now, cause you know, you kind of prove it and then, and then you do it. And so I think, um, maybe the XFL doesn't even want to be in with all that antiquated cause they were on like a three-year plan. But that, I mean that wasn't going to be the XFL. Wasn't going to get paid from any of those TV networks or anything. For your, for when they renegotiate itself, I would think that hopefully the rocking them can, can negotiate better. Maybe. Whenever you, and this is like, it's more like WCW kind of thing where, um, The big, the big difference that we taught that they talk about when they talk about the downfall of WCW is that it was a television company putting out a wrestling program. Where the WWE was a wrestling company. Making a television program. There's a difference there there's a, there's a different way to approach it. And it boggles my mind that Vince didn't look at. Him being a. A a. A football. Television program. And it seemed like he kind of took a WCW. Ish type deal, where he was taking more of the risk on and almost in sense, buying TV time and then giving away ad space. Like would that have been a better deal just to buy the TV time outright and go well, okay. We're going to take all the ads. Because we're buying the time on the network. Would that been a more expensive, would that be a more lucrative? Who knows? But, um, I think that that's the, that's the. That's the thing they need to get is definitely they're providing content. They need to be paid for their content. If, if there's ad space, that's what the networks need to have. They need to have all the ad space and then just pay for the XFL. Just pay for it. That's. That's the smart way to go about it. And that, uh, by the ones on those, the note about the, a young rock TV show, it's going to be on NBC. So, yeah. See, and I mean, that was the thing too, is if they get a new TV deal, it's gotta be battery then, you know, cause those first couple of weeks and when they were on Fox and ABC or whatever, but then, you know, by, by like week four, it's on, you know, ESPN number four. I mean, I couldn't even find them some of the time and you're like, I'm a pretty savvy TV guy. And if I can't get these stupid episodes up yeah. That's why you're there like, well, but you're week five, the ratings were only 700,000 people. It's like, yeah. Cause they were on like a super obscure, you know, Yeah, I mean, but I, you know, you have to make it accessible for people and it goes back to the MLB conversation. You have to make it accessible for people to watch the staff. And if you have it on, you know, what the heck are they going to put on NBC in February right now? I mean, I know we talked last week. Soccer premiere lugs premiere league soccer. But, I mean, like we've got, you know, mass singer spinoffs with Ken Jong, you know, I can, I can hear your voice or see your voice or whatever, you know, and we're in September. I mean, we're in September. What are we going to do? In January in February. I mean, we need. Because Hollywood's just barely getting back to work. We're going to need content. It's also, it's almost like a writer strike happened for a year. We'd content. So this would be a perfect way for them just to have like a ready, made program, like, you know, Everything is in place if they just have it, you know, if they hire the people back. That didn't, you know, and there's a good chance that these people that got let go still don't have jobs because of COVID. The heart of the people back there. The infrastructure is still there. You can improve in a couple places here and there, but I love, you know, we loved what they did with interviewing players, like right on the field after it happened. Talk about what was going through your mind during that, that touchdown run, that stuff was great. That stuff was awesome to get inside the players' minds right there on the field. After that moment's happened, there's so many things they could do to make it compelling to where people are going to tune in, especially. I think. Americans took sports for granted during this time. And once sports came back, there was, there's been a bigger outcry for the positive nature of sports being in our society. Then just people taking it for granted going, Oh, the baseball games on, I might watch it. Who knows? Now it's been like, Oh, it's on, I'm watching it. I know I've been that way. So maybe that's the same thing that's going to happen here. Came as well. And yeah, at one person that we would love to see higher back at the exit of fellows are good. Fan, a good friend, Ryan Gustafson. Yes. Trying to get him on the podcast. Come on the podcast, Ryan, please, Ryan. I'll tweet it. Again, I don't want to get blocked. I don't want to get blocked that Cardel, but I don't think Ryan's a soft as Cardale Jones's I don't think anybody's that soft, to be honest with you. Oh man. Can I ask a question real quick on this. We're on this young rock show. Yes. If there is a Roman reigns character, are you going to watch it or you gonna turn off? Yeah, conundrum. I hell. I'm not saying I always watch it anyway. It's just like a young Sheldon spin off with the rock. It's like everybody hates Chris, but it's the rock, I guess maybe. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know what it is. Yeah, I mean, I'll check it out, but I'm not, I'm not a big sitcom guy. You aren't no. Not, I mean, you watch BS reality TV. That's your, that's your jam? You, you tweeted about the bachelor so much. And survivor and big brother. Hey brother. We're a season and they were seasoned in 22 years. We have going on right now. It's 2020. So everything's the worst right now. You couldn't, you couldn't ask for a season of big brother right now. By the way did you end up watching the Roman reigns? J U so match from? I did. Yeah, I painted and I watched it. We watched that. Honestly, what did you think. What's your bias aside. I know we hate Roman. We'll put your bias aside here. Here's what I think. And this is, this is really, um, Because the set up the set up. Ag and you got to quit. Quit faking your. I've got like an ingrown nail. After. Oh, my God. Um, You know, It's hard. Cause the whole thing about the UIUX sows was there are these twins, right? They got packed, you know, Roman, whatever. And, you know, it was always like who, which one's J which one's Jimmy cause they're twins, right? Like you can never, and that was always, and he's got this chip on his shoulder and Roman was always pushed as the main guy. And it's, it's really funny now that when you take, because Roman was in the shield, had the cool ring gear, had the cool music, had the cool, everything. Got to keep all of that. When the shield broke up, got to keep the music, I had to keep everything. And now when you, when you strip all that away and Rowan comes out with pants on and his Samoan tattoos, and it looks a lot like Jay who sell and I'm sitting there and I'm like, it was like a roll of the dice that you could have picked any one of those guys and put the money behind it. You know, if Vincent put as much money behind Zack Ryder or Jay Russo, Or anybody in the world, I feel like Roman reigns is not have anything that intangible that puts him above anybody else that you would put that much money. Time behind. You don't think that Ooh stuff is money. No, but I mean, like that's the thing is like, okay, if we. You like this podcast guy. You could take $1 million and put, you know, Facebook ads and Google ads and everything on this podcast. And get it, you would get it to whatever level and you could take that same million dollars and take it to any other XFL podcasts and get this it just because they put six freaking years and every ounce of energy that Vince has in the Roman reigns. But you could have done that to any of it. Who says, I think they had just as much charisma. I think they're just as good. I mean, that's not a knock on Roman so much as it is. I think they're just as adequate as any of the other wrestlers. And you got to put, I mean, unless you're like stone cold or the rock. There's not that much intangible. That's different than a lot of the guys besides what bins wants to do. Okay. So this goes to something that, uh, Ryback had said, and I can't believe we're going to reference right back right now. And maybe are we done talking XFL because we can just. I got a lot more XFL stuff. Oh, great. Um, I can't wait to see what you have planned next. Uh, Rybeck had said Vince now is in a, in a, Rybeck had said Vince now is in a, in a,in a space where he just wants to make the logo the most over thingabout the company. So is Vince going to really allow this to happen?Where you get a Roman reigns who is going to be.The guy, cause I mean, Let's talk about Siena CMAs.Has been the last guy we think, you know, we talk about being the guy.Siena was the last guy. And now look, what scene is doing. He's he doesn't need anymore. He's done.Yeah, but he pushed Roman to be the guy. We just didn't accept him.Right. So, I mean, but it wasn't Vince pudding. I mean,I think except for Roman,I think he wants someone he can control on top. But I don't think Vince, as opposed to pushing me, I think he went a loved if Roman got over, like anybody else, did they just, he just didn't. There's other people that. That he could have. Anybody, literally anybody else in the world even drew MacIntyre. Yeah. I wish. Yeah. I mean, you could have. Bobby Roode over fricking. I mean, you could, if you went and played as much time and energy behind Roman reigns or I'm behind Bobby Roode is either Roman reigns. He w it doesn't matter when you put that much money behind somebody, it doesn't matter how good or bad there, if you would put that much money and effort behind a Dolph Ziegler. People love dogs. People loved Dolph, Ziggler, but whatever. Let's go back to XFL news. So people are like, Oh, WW took well, we'll get to that. So I want to talk about a couple of other things. James at the newsroom has a whole article about what the XFL is going to miss with Oliver luck being gone. And basically that just makes me cry and want to be sad. And, uh, we, we still have no update on the offer, like lawsuit. Yeah. Yeah. I know we're waiting on pins and needles for that, but I mean, it just stinks, you know, it just makes us feel crappy again, you know, we saw all of her lock on ESPN a couple of weeks ago and not talking about the XFL. And so James is just kinda like a obituary for all of her lock. And just that you want to find someone likable on the smartest Oliver, it's just like kind of lamenting your ex-girlfriend being gone. Right. I don't think you sent me that in the Google doc. And if you did that, So maybe I'm not looking at the same article you're saying, could you just summarize for me? Yeah, it's just says, you know, what were the accident miss do, offer like being gone. I talked to you about the canceling of the season. It's missing his presence. Uh, you know, he, the fact that you had the mind for football, and I think that that's where they're talking about. And the other thing, the other article I wanted to touch on is, you know, Sources say that Jeffrey Pollock is going to be. Geez, Louise. Sorry, since they're saying, why don't you van for me? And I'm going to close this window. All right. I'll van for a minute. Um, geez, Louise, we've got to find a new thing to say, because that came up on another podcast that I have and, uh, just, you know, we gotta, we gotta find another. Another, uh, like, uh, another exclamation anyway. Um, So they're talking about Jeffrey, P*****k sources are saying, you know, he's with the league still, right. Is he going to come back as the president? Is he kind of come back as a commissioner? Is he going to come back? You know, he was on the zoom call. Danny had the big zoom call. We broke that down last week. And they're talking to you about how, you know, it, Jeffrey Pollock sticks around. If he's the president, he just doesn't have the football mind to all of our luck hat. We're all kind of had that. They their respect in the mindset, you know, from everybody okay. Over Alexa do this, you know, Jeffrey Pollock was into like the world series of poker and built all that up. But way more like marketing, right. Which is great for like a president. But I just don't know who we're going to get on a football level to replace all of her luck. And a lot of movement with my hands. I'm trying to think of potential people that might be great for that. And I mean, There, there are some former, uh, commissioners of college conferences. That are, I think are still out there. I'd have to look them up. I know there was a couple, there was like one from the big 12 that might be an option. Um, but yeah, I definitely think that they pick the right person and maybe it's a situation where all over Lux lawsuit gets filed away quickly and solved quickly. So maybe he can get them back. I think he would come back under different orders, ownership group. I think he would definitely come back. You don't seem to agree, but I would do it. No I'm saying I would do anything. I would do anything for a walk to come back. You would do anything. Well, I would, I would be, I think that would be a huge like boost for us. Would you send all of our local Mark cast mask? I stand. And all of her, like, yeah. So I would absolutely send off for like an exit Walmart gas mask. How many more do we have to give away? Like two, two more left. I've been doing five a week right now, first five of the week. And what would the gist for it? We'll do it for a couple of weeks. And so, yeah, so we've got we that we played it before. You know, so five this week would be great. I say we just roll through a couple of ad agency. Most people are accepting that the XFL cloth masks, we have the black Gators and the white Gators. But I think that XFL mask is a good, like. We're giving away five more this week. What we want you to do is again, the website address is rate this podcast.com/xfl. Please log on to rate our podcast and send us proof of the rating. And we'll send you a mask, your choice, Gator or mask. All right. So before we get down with the XFL talk today, This is my big segment for the week. This is Reid's. Big. And I hope, I hope this works today. We had problems with the screen sharing. Last time we tried that. So we're going to give her the shot we're going for no edits. So. Bands are the podcasts now are our debacle with Cardell Jones. Right? We tried Cardale Jones was on book cameo.com for I think, $40. We tried to have him do a, um, You know, congratulatory message try. They try to do like applied for the Mark. Cask is the joke was we were going to do it, edit it to be a plug of the Markcast we did it. Huge lasts, you know, hilarity, everything else. And that, uh, it failed, right. We posted that he blocked all of us, everything. Colossal failure. As I'm sitting there last week. You know, I can't get enough of their Scouts. I go back on book cameo. Uh, who is on look cameo. But number 69, DC defenders. Call Boozer. Go ahead. Call Boozer. I think. This is, this is our level, right? Maybe we're not at Cardel level yet. We're at Cole bruiser level. No, no, no, no, no. Cardell's not at our level anymore. Well, So soft. S a w F T soft. Yeah, that was bad. So, so I go on book cameo and I do it 100% legit. I go, Hey, Cole, Boozer. I want to send my friend Paul a congratulatory message. She hosts a brand new XFL podcast called the XFL Markcast. Okay. Everything just not hiding anything. Hop it top of the level. And so we're gonna, we're gonna share the screen here. And that's no edits. Yeah, I got it. And we're going to optimize screen-share for video clip. And we're going to share this and that. So this is, this is from Cole Boozer, number 69. And I want you to figure out after we play this, I want you to figure out how we're going to share this on that, on the Twitters. Okay. Yeah. Hey, Paul Sanchez is Cole Boozer, DC defendant number 69. Congrats on starting the XFL podcast, XFL market cast. Thanks. Take care, stay safe. No. Cool. Cool. This is Cole Boozer, DC defendant number 69. Congrats on starting me. XFL podcast, XFL market cast. Thanks. Take care, stay safe. So there you go. That's what we got. That's where we got the market cast market gas market cast. We're reviewing XFL, add stocks. Couldn't even get cold Boozer and to do a real black. So that is kind of where we're at. Okay. Figured you would get spending money, stop spending money on this s**t. Uh, well, so, uh, but here's the question. So do we, and we need to figure out an episode, a title for this episode anyway. Should it be like we stand call Boozer. Yeah, we stand Cole Boozer. Dan Cole Boozer. And if he, if he retweets this we'll, uh, we'll um, we'll put a shirt in the store. We'll put a shirt, we stand cold Boozer. If he retweets a podcast. Okay. Okay. And here's what we'll do. Cole Boozer. What were route. What I'm gonna do is I'm going to make my pledge. I'm going to donate money to a charity of your choice for retweeting. This. I'll do it. And I don't know if you're going to match me again on this Reid. But let's, let's, let's donate to a charity of cults choice if he retweets us. So the cartel Jones is too soft. To take a joke or retweet something or appreciate the love that we were given and were just, what was it like? Reid's language of love is to make fun of things. That's what reading does. They just go and block us. You don't need to read sweet. Just don't block us GS. So soft. We keep focusing on how soft you are and you're a quarterback. So if, yeah, I think if we have Cole, um, retweets is, I would love to send, I would love to make and send him a wee Stan Cole Boozer shirt. And we will donate whether we say before 125, a piece to a charity. 50 total detail out cold Boozer. I don't know if you'll know how Twitter works. Cause you don't know how book cameo works. I'm kidding. You, if you retweet at XFL Mark on Twitter. Well, we'll, we'll donate, donate to your charity of your choosing. Yes. So there we go. So I'm the Debbie that we talked now that we're done with that. Cause I felt around that bed, rest of the shopping this week. Well, I mean, where I've talked about how ripe wants, says, Vince only wants to get the logo over. So that, I mean, I think we talked about everything. I did. You want to talk about anything? W related. So yeah, Bobby Roode came back and uh, and then, um, whether we think in about, um, how they're pushing Keith Lee right now, Are they pushing him? Well, that's what I mean, like, are we, does it matter right now that keep Lee came in and, um, I don't know. I mean, Keithley, he came in, he was the former right here at both titles in NXT. They push them up to the Debbie, Debbie. And then now he was wrestling like Andrada right. And just like nothing like a throwaway match. I think that's ludicrous, like maybe just a squash match that they're doing, because they're trying to break the whole thing up with Andrada and Selena Vega. Now they want to move Selena into active competition, basically with her. Fighting ASCA, you know, a couple of times, so clearly there's. Please make a GIF of that. Please make it. The thing about Oscar's like, I didn't really think she was as attractive. Like now I think she's super attractive and I'm like, Oh, I have a big crush on Oscar. Maybe it's the, those videos. She posted her. Cause she has a YouTube channel where she does like the ASM Mar stuff, where she like fixes food and it's all, it sounds like, you know, the, the audio side. No, this is wild. Yeah. It's like the audio sounds that help, like relax you and stuff. He doesn't relax me, but like, it's just kind of adorable. It's the other, it doesn't relax. You, it excites, you know, it doesn't do that either. Um, it's just like, it's it. She's she's so adorable when she, you. You know, does these little cooking things and stuff, and I'm just like, Oh, no, I know I have a crush on Oscar. So. Either for like two years. The next day, right. We saw our front row at the palladium in LA. We did, we saw her and then we started, I don't remember much event movie. Stand back. I'm like, dude, there's like three feet in between me and the fence. You need to calm the F down. This is the wrestling show friend. I paid money. Be here. Don't talk to me like that. Um, do you think that Ray Mysterio, his daughter, do you think she's going to end up with Murphy? Yeah, because that's. That's how these things work. How upset do you think Seth Rollins is that this is where his career is right now. I mean, I don't know. He's. He kind of, he kind of made his own bed when he went on Twitter and started being a real d****e bag about things. Talk and stuff, you know, talking crap to, uh, who was it that he stuck around? Zack saber jr. Yeah. She counts and stuff like he, he, he did this himself. He kind of heard himself with his big, with his Twitter fingers, you know, trigger fingers, turning the Twitter fingers and he's running his mouth on Twitter. And now people don't like him. And there's no heat in this whatsoever. I mean, crowd or not, no one would care about the stupid. This whole thing. See, I think that whole thing is setting up to where, um, She rolls with Murphy because she slapped Dominic on raw. I guess that's what happened. And then. Did you see a stuff about Alexa bliss? No. Because Alexa bliss was engaged to Murphy. So kayfabe she's like, shoot your shot, bro. At Murphy about Ray's daughter, just basically kayfabe being, you know, Are they not together anymore? You broke up. Long time ago. Real life, but they were in real life. They were together. Yeah, in real life, they're no longer together. They ended their engagement. So she like kayfabe is like, shoot your shot, bud. And people were coming after Alexa bliss. They were like, she's a teenager. Dammit, blah, blah, blah. It's like, Oh my gosh, it worked. It worked because people believed. This fake storyline was real. So they'd be like, they were like talking about how perverted buddy Murphy as apparently for going after. I guess she's like 19 now. Uh, raised daughters 19. I mean, it's just dumb. It's like they just can't figure out what to do with Rey Mysterio. You have one of the most talented legends of 'em. Uh, [unknown]. My wrestling, like in the world. And you have him in like this family soap, opera staff with his wife and daughter and son, it's like crazy. That's all you have to come up with him for. This is one person who could have benefited from me. He'll turn. Uh, he'll Rey Mysterio would have been money. I would have been there for that. I would be like, okay, this is interesting. This is different. I just been, is it just PR I mean, they haven't known what to do with them for 20 years. I mean, they've, they've had him for, how long has he been with the company? I mean, forever since. Oh, wow. Wow. 15 years. Off and on, you know, he's he had like a couple of years off where he didn't resign Lucha, underground stuff. Yeah, I mean, This is a guy that, you know, He's super marketable. And. They've talked about it. Kona and I talked about on his podcast where. He doesn't understand why they haven't taken the mask off right. Yet. Because Ray. You know, like we've seen, we've seen Ray without a mask. Like if you watch WCW in the late nineties and early two thousands, you seen Ray without his mask, like. We know what he looks like. He's a good looking guy. So I'm Conan doesn't understand why they haven't taken this mask off yet. Maybe that's maybe they're building the something here where it's like, Ray and Dominic, and then, you know, Dominic beats, Ray and Ray takes off his mask and hands it over to Dominic. I don't, I don't know what's happening. I don't know. No, there is zero money in Dominic. We stereo. He's I think he's talented in the ring, but I don't think the Christmas there. I don't think Chris was there at all. No. But that was it. I mean, there wasn't a lot. I was watching the retribution do anything. I mean, they're in quarantine right now. In real life. Really. Okay. I don't know that are so they weren't on Michelle or someone. Got you. Exposed. Oh, all had negative tests, but they're keeping them in quarantine for 14 days as opposed to the five that they say you need to do. Well, maybe they realize that whole gimmick isn't over. Maybe T-bar and slap John nuts, whatever. I don't know what's going on. Oh, my God. The funny thing was. They, one of them tweeted about how, because the whole thing is, is there this like anti authority, whatever. And they, they came in and like blew up TVs and cut up the ring and destroyed everything and said, Debbie Debbie gave, um, um, contracts. Right? They, they signed them. That's what you do when people mess up your show, they give you contracts. Yeah. So, so someone was tweeting and one of the guys T-bar, wherever it goes. Well, they signed us because it costs them less money to sign us then. Then that destruction we were causing behind the scenes, right. We were causing, let's say $10,000 of distraction every week. And they signed us and sending Chris chair. Tweets and them just. Huh. I was like, that is the best reaction to that storyline because it just doesn't make sense at all. Why would you sign be anti whatever authority? But that always happens. That happened with your nexus to kill the next list. Yeah, but they killed the next, if they're going to kill this too, this is, this is all over within the, before the year's over, this is going to be done. Now with the quarantine. I wouldn't be surprised if they're done. I mean, take our masks off to show that we have other masks on. Stupid. Yeah. It's just stupid. Oh, wow. Well, I think that was it. So next week, we'll have more XFL coverage to talk about, and then we'll save our WWE toward the end. So if you just want to stop and, uh, I got one, one thing I want to say, though, Love it. Okay. When, when you talk about what van calls you on, just, just leave the, the, off, the, off the record stuff off it, because people are like sitting there going well, what did he share off the record? I want to know. Gets down. Cause I'm curious too. And you tease people every day, every week with this van called and he's told me some stuff off the record that I'm not going to tell you, but I know you won't know. You'll never know. Ah, Just tell us the stuff that you can say, the vandals. Okay. Dan the man, our number one fan. I posted talking about how, if we don't get our seasoned Todd, we did the whole breakdown about the cardboard cutouts. Where are we going to get the cardboard cutouts? We kinda made fun of it, whatever. Uh, and I said, but if we don't get our seats, I'm going to riot. Right. So I posted on Facebook. 30 seconds later. Van texts me riot on brother. I'm with you. It's like, I go, what are you talking about? He goes, well, you just posted the thing on Facebook. Oh, You are. We're on it. So van. Got notification set for you probably. And band and man number one fan. So anyway, uh, yeah, that's, that's all I got Google docs empty, so I think we killed it. Google doc is empty. Uh, if I had my soundboard on, I've given her an applause for emptying that Google doc, because that is my favorite part of the week. Emptying that Google doc. Oh, did you wait real quick? And we, I don't even know if we can pull this up. Did you see the thing about the NFL players talking about the blimp? No. Oh my God, this hang on. I w van for a second. Vamping again. So apparently we need to talk about one more thing that regards relates to the NFL blimp story. And I hope you've enjoyed this episode. The acts of hallmark has, we've kind of packed us. I looked over at the time right now. And we've gone over a minute. Uh, I'm sorry, not a minute an hour. I'm glad I goofed up there. So I could just add more words cause I really liked the way that my voice sounds. So it Reid is the NFL blimp article. Ready now. Yeah. So should we just play the audio? I think. Okay. This is weird. I was just dead silence. That's how quiet it is. Sound like what it's doing. If you want to keep flying overhead. Hovering over top. It's not flying. Oh, it's not flying. I think I've been there is not applying. So this is JJ watt and Brandon Dan of the text ends. And they're having this debate about whether the Goodyear blimp is flying or hovering over it. Over the arena. Can you hear this? I just didn't know. So he's asking that to people. So you're telling me that thing in there. It's not blind. What is hovering is hovering a form of flying. Thank you. Thank you. I thought at CVS is Marty. That was dying. And he was like this minute line discussion about whether the Goodyear blimp is flying or hovering over the NFL stadium. Thank you. It's flying. Propellers push it forward. Not staying in one place. But I think that's a good spot to end the Markcast onto that. Very good. Thanks for listening, we'll see you next week.

XFL Markcast Episode 7 - Where Do We Buy an XFL Belt, Bro?

So yeah, how's everything else. Good. Good. How about you? Good. We're doing no, no edits today. I'm recording. I am. Too tired from last night, too long of a day. So it's a no edits read today. We're we're going through and definitely no mix minus issues on this podcast, for sure. No doubt. Yeah. Sometimes these podcasts. Interviews and it's like, Man, we could just weep. If we only have the clouds to get those names, maybe we could do, do a better job capturing well, you know, I talked to you about this awesome board that I had that allows me to like bring in a USB and bring in both the Bluetooth and like a phone via. Like a 3.5, five millimeter or whatever you want to call it, Jack. Anyway. Invest in this board, if you're doing a podcast folks, because it is the ideal thing to do. Let's you know, when you're recording. So you're making sure you're recording on everything. I'm recording the video. And I can see it. I can see it. That was one time. It was one time. One time, one time, one time. We're burying the lead though today. Do you want to do the intro? And then we'll then we'll get into the breaking news top lead story. Well, we already just already talked. I think this is the intro kind of lights kind of fluffy. And I called you. I just said, Oh, hi, Mark. So a lead story of the day. XFL Markcast hats. Oh, look at that. Surprise. And they got the real talk call me logo. Of course. Yeah, dude. They look sick. It looks sick. Yeah. No, you can get those now XFL show.com/merch. Of course. That's how you get all your XFL Markcast Merch. We have racer back tops. The net gainer. Of course we had to talk about that because we're giving away. That Gators or face masks, your choice. For going on to what's the website address rate this podcast.com/xfl. Is it right? This podcast. And we've had some people submit reviews and we're going to get those orders out. Thank you. They're really great. I'm really surprised. Cause you know, we, we try to do the merchandise, even the hats. The Gators and the cloth mass are honestly really good quality. Like I said, I have one right here. I wore it to my wedding that I filmed yesterday. And it's great. It's comfortable. It, I feel like it keeps you at. It does what it needs to do. And yeah, I would strongly recommend that. So I'm definitely picking up. A XFL, just a regular cloth mask. Cause those are, those are more comfortable. Got a big head. You know, this I've got a massively huge ad. So navigators don't quite work for me, but your choice. Cloth masks or the neck gaiters, of course, right. This podcast.com/xfl. Why don't you show us that you've rented it. We'll send you your choice, net Gator or cloth mask rebirth. Paul version. That's basically what we're saying. He's coming to white and black, just submit a review, send me a DM at accent. @xflmark on Twitter really quick. And then that will just it's once it verifies and goes through we'll, we'll get it on its way. So it's great. And we really appreciate all the support. Easy peasy. It's a little bit early for me. We've we all had. Yeah, it's been a long week. Has been a long week, especially if you're in the NFL, a lot of injuries happening in the NFL. One could say it's because of no preseason, you know, we, we. We as people that have watched the NFL for years of 'em, why are we doing this? Pre-season it seems stupid. It seems long. It seems drawn out. This is why we do a pre season. So. They called it like bloody Sunday, right? Is that what I saw? It, it was nuts. The amount of ACL tears. I mean, Saquon Barkley, the star running back from the giants. Out with a torn ACL and you just have to wonder is this pre-season thing going to be something that we shouldn't skip over anymore? And maybe even a blueprint for the XFL. Yeah. And I saw that they have be a fan of this meme where it was. A little girl and she's asking he had the 40 Niners. Did you beat whatever? I can't remember whatever team may be. Did you beat them on Sunday? Yes. Why did they cost you everything? Cause like they lost like four or five players, right. It's pretty accurate. It's just, it's been, it's been one thing after another. So it just really underscores the importance of letting these players get. Ready. In the setting. So cutting preseason games. They were planning on doing, they were talking about cutting it down to three preseason games and expanding the schedule that 18 games. I don't think that's a good idea. I think you need to definitely still need the four preseason games. And after what we've seen over the last week, maybe two weeks, even, we definitely need to have that. Pre-season staying at four games and maybe just a 16 let's let's not break something. That's not. You know, that's not fix something that's not broken. Well, cause that's the thing is, you know, and this, they were even talking about the college player is how, you know, if you're trying to rush these players onto the field, even if COVID is not going to get on these injuries are, and we, one of the articles I had sent you, I was looking through his. You know, they said like a lot of these players haven't lifted or worked out in months. And so you're trying to rush the seasons. Okay. With now we can go or whatever, and you know, it just, it takes time. I mean, you, can't football is such a tremendously hard sport to play and you can't just, you know, you can't just go from the calendar. The couch, the plan, no matter what it's like doing that. It's like in wrestling, right? They talk about like, you know, you can run on the treadmill a hundred hours a day, but until you get into the ring and do all that. And that was like when, when the rock came back and fight John seeing that WrestleMania and the one in for that. And he was just totally gassed because you know, he hadn't been in the ring in years. Am I, you can run and run and workout and do all, you can train as much as you want it and be as big and lift as many weights. But. Unless you're, you know, in there it's not the same. And I think it's the same with football. Is that a, is that a nice little segue into our next story about the rocks? Awesome. XFL workout belt. Do we have a ton of rock news this week? I said a ton of rock and Danny staff kind of stuff. Yeah. I mean, and of course. So, yeah, the rock posts on Instagram, he's got this, I don't use like where do they even get this stuff? Like, you know, obviously he's got the keys to everything, but right. Where do you get like a custom XFL, a weightlifting belt. Well, where do you get custom XFL? Markcast hats. Well, but I'm just saying like, is that a thing? Like, did they have that before I did. He just whipped that up in the last couple of weeks? I'm sure what he did was he probably like went to a screen printer. I mean, the rock has worth a bunch of money. Just like, give me one of these work. It probably has like 10 of them now, though. He probably got like two for Danny. You know, like everybody else, like all of his inner circle has like XFL workout belts now. So he goes to print. It gets, it gets the 3d puff. Five engraving apparently have 3d puff. Embroidery on your hats. According to. We've had some difficulty getting the quality of the hats that I would like, but we're getting there. I know, but, but you know, and people say anybody, the rock. Plus on Instagram, he's working out, he's got the XFL ballot and he's joking. Like, well, maybe I would be the first, you know, owner, whatever person to play. Obviously that's dumb. Right? I mean, obviously the rocks not going to play football, everyone's on their poop. But what it does do is it got everybody talking to yesterday, that's all everybody talked about was the XFL, you know, one post from him on there. It's like 2 million fricking whatever. It's crazy. I'm going to go ahead and, and be the spoil sport here. The rock even entertaining the idea of getting on the field. Makes me feel like Vince McMahon getting back in the ring right now. It kind of does a little bit. It's just like, dude, just be the owner. Don't delegate. I think he's, I think he's this Josh. And I think he's just, like I said, but it gets people talking. Right. Cause it what happened ESB and all these places, the rocks talking about. I saw Bleacher report. I mean, it was everywhere. That was all you could see yesterday on Twitter. So. It works. I mean, it works. So I think that's fine. And like I said, you know, Vince is not going to get. Yeah, we just had Jeff on last week. And I just posted on Twitter talking about, you know, just the reach, Jeff talking about the reach that the rock has and yeah, I mean, one Instagram post from the rock talking about, you know, working out with an XFL ballot gets more publicity than Vince probably ever could. Ever, you know, tweeting anything ever. I think it's safe to say and people might think it's ridiculous. I think it's safe to say that the rock is much more of a household name that Vincent man or the WWE ever will be. And I think, you know, that's, that's a situation where somebody is definitely bigger than the sport. Yeah, and I don't think Vince wants that to ever happen again, for sure. For sure. Absolutely. So would that being said. What do you think about the rock coming back? Oh, it's a wrestling. Yeah. Yeah, that looks like where it's going. Huh? If they, if they'd be the rock to Roman reigns, I'm going to be so mad and you know, they are, and you know that he'll, Roman's going to go over and it's like, Yeah. I'm not, but. I don't know. I mean, The whole thing before was he couldn't come back because he's worth so much money. The movie insurances and everything. I mean, That a possibility. Well, in terms of, in terms of. In terms of like, COVID, we're hoping that this is over by next March, April, whenever WrestleMania is. That they're putting in Tampa instead of leaving it here in LA. That they're putting in Tampa instead of leaving it here in LA. And I'm kind of mad about that, but I'm kind of happy about that. And I'm kind of mad about that, but I'm kind of happy about that. You would think this COVID thing is over by that point, but who knows? You would think this COVID thing is over by that point, but who knows? I mean, if we just. I mean, if we just. If everybody just wore a mask. If everybody just wore a mask. For three weeks, we'd be done with this thing, please. It's not, it's not political. And of course you can get your masks again, going to plug this. XML show.com/march or. Right. This podcast slash XFL. We'll send you one for free. We want you to be safe. We want you to care about others. Just wear the mask for three weeks, please. I beg you. So you do think you think their oxygen to come back and you think he's going to the whole, the whole idea of the tribal chief that Paul Heyman is doing. Program Roman like, Oh, he's the tribal chief. I think it's setting up, you know, what, what other way do you become the alpha Samoan then take on the alpha Samoan. It's not going to hurt rock in terms of like a box office, movie draw or anything like that. To do the job. You know, I mean, talk about being busy. I mean, that's not, I mean, I know that he's not going to be like super on the XFL. I mean, he's right. Like Danny, and then they're going to put a bunch of people. I mean, even the rock, I mean, it's like, yeah, Danny, and then the rock, I think it's just, he's just putting his name on it. Right. But like, Is this crazy how busy some people are and then you think to be trained and to come back at WrestleMania to me in advance, I mean, it's just nuts. It's just like, I don't know how he does it. Like, cause I, I barely find enough time in my day, you know? Like, does he sleep maybe two hours a night? I'm curious. I'm really curious what his sleep schedule is, because it seems like to maintain his stature to maintain his figure. You have to be in the gym at least three hours and then filming movies. And it's just, I mean, hats off to the guy. He's a hustler. It's just, it's kind of. A lot of work to, to take on. Did you see the other story I sent you about the Rocca on Sunday? For me to ask for an Instagram or a tour of the gate office house. Oh, yeah. Wow. That was, that was going to be the lead story before. And then just obviously all this other stuff, but like, That was crazy. I was sitting there. I was going up to film this event. I'm sitting in the, like the Starbucks drive through SBC on Twitter. That. Talk about how busy the rock is and everything that they were there was like a power outage and G was going to film. I think he's snowmans. Filming some movie for Netflix or whatever, and you know, and you're the rock and you've got all these people on staff. Camera crew and everyone that is involved with making the movie. And it's the same way with him, the risk with them go back to wrestling. Right? Yeah, there's so much money on him. But, you know, he's sitting there and I guess the power went out in his gate. Like his compound with you, his house with no bed and he's sitting there and it's going to take like an hour for the technician to. He goes, why can't I got 300 people waiting for me down this. I can't wait. It's insane. What do you think about that? 99% of people wouldn't be able to do that. So rock is very fortunate to be able to riff. Gate off when the power's not on, because I definitely wouldn't be able to. You definitely wouldn't be able to you're skinny. So, yeah, and I'm just fat and out of, out of shape. So, but I mean, it wasn't even like he drove through. Like he like tore it off, like. You would think his social media, people that fall more on the cameras all the time would have that recorded actually on video for a promo like. Dude, you could sell supplements based on that gate ripping off alone, like the rock could make his own line of supplements and use that video. And that would be $1 billion supplement company overnight. Sure. How did we not have video of this? With all of the good things that market or that rock is doing in marketing. How did you not think of that? He should call me. I'll go work for them. Yeah. That's crazy. You get them on candid camera or something. Yeah. Aftermath of that was, is this just, and also on the brain, on the injury front? Sorry to read. Sorry to backtrack a little bit. Did you see the story about tie rod Taylor from the San Diego chargers know? Oh wow. This is painful. So apparently had cracked ribs. And the doctor, the team doctor in Maine. In, in the, in the process of trying to help them alleviate the pain. Novocaine or something to numb the pain ended up puncturing his lung. Oh my God. Wow. Not only is the NFL having injury problems, but who do you trust? When, when you get injured because your team doctor is puncturing your lung. That's crazy. So, yeah, that apparently we wished by rod Taylor. To the best. Hopefully it comes back from the broken rib and the punctured lung now. And I smell, I smell a serious lawsuit coming on. Dorothy talks about that. Like, I think one time she like bruised a rib or control group. She's like, you can't even laugh. It's just the worst injury. He just can't even laugh. You can't breathe. I mean, I've, I've never, I've never broken a rib, but apparently you can't breathe. It's just, it's really, really painful. So. Yeah, I've never, yeah. Luckily never broken anything. So. And since we're talking about LA, there's a story now that's comes out that the XFL Wildcats XMLs LA wild cats might have to move down to San Diego. Who kind of predicted that. Apparently I was told I was crazy. Because there was just, the market was way too big for Elena and I have a team, but again, I kind of said that it would make, it might be in the best interest. For San Diego to have a team. Well, the story was saying that I guess the football team there is going to play in the spring this year and that, that would conflict with the dates. Right? Was that the mountain, the last league or something I was looking at to that. Yeah, because the San Diego state is in the mountain West and they were already announcing that they're going to play at dignity, health, sports park. Which. Surprisingly has become. A viable football venue, who would've thought when the. When the charters came up, they moved up here. People laughed about them playing at dignity, health, dignity, health, sports park. I still want to call it. I still want to call the stub hub center. It's such a, it's such a wordy title for a. Stadium. So I guess the, the plan is maybe that the, the San Diego state will play in Carson. And then exhale, wild cats will play down in, in San Diego state at their, at their, at their, at their stadium. Well, here's an interesting thought just to run by you. Cause Michael, our friend Michael was talking to me yesterday about it. Cause he, I was tweeting about. He said the Rocky posted this photo right. Of the weightlifting belt, and then rest in peace. I always do this wrong resting peace brand. And silver is my. Yeah, our QB was, I screenshotted the rocks, Instagram posts to share, and it, you know, it shows on there like who liked it? And it was like, you know, lights my brand and Silver's cause I follow Brandon Silver's requires. And so I tweeted and take them and I say, quit, quit liking the rocks post. We don't want you back. And brands. One thing I need to say to Brandon Sellers then. Oh, hi, Mark. But anyway. So I was sharing that with Michael and Michael was asking about, you know, Hey, why yo wow, that's really big news. Right? Like the rocks. And I said, wow, there's actually, and we got it. We still got to talking about the zoom call and step two, but. There's, you know, there's actually a lot of stuff this week with the XFL and he goes, well, you know what, if they don't come back to Seattle or all the different teams. And I said, well, you know, even if they do a bubble or not, you know, I still think they're going to keep, you know, LA whatever, at least this year, but then he brought up. You know, we we've been talking about the bubble for weeks, but now the NFL where I know we've said that it was not going to work. I mean, I know we're only we two, and we've got some stories about, you know, schools and sappy and postpone their whatever, but. What do you think about that? Do you think it's still a bubble or do you think we, we go full steam with, with just limited fans? I think we just go full steam with limited fans so far it's it's appearing that things are okay. That. That the protocols set forth by the NBA and then major league baseball. Of course, major league baseball is going to move into a bubble situation. To protect their playoffs. So I think maybe the NFL is doing the same thing where they're like, let's play the games. And I will say that it's been kind of. Sketchy to allow fans cause some NFL games or having fans. Cowboys had him. I don't know if you saw the photo where the chiefs fans, where they were all sitting vertically, apparently coronavirus doesn't spread vertically. It only spreads, spreads horizontally. That's weird. I didn't know that that's something new voucher. You might need to look into that, but some of these football games are having fans and I'm thinking, man, still. A lot of feelings. Like there was at least 20,000 at the Cowboys game. It was a ton of fans. That's insane to me. So maybe I think it's a situation where the NFL is going to be not in a bubble right now, but when the playoffs come and they want to get a super bowl champion without any hesitation, without any pauses. Maybe that's when the NFL moves into a bubble, because then you have less costs to worry about locking 12 teams up as opposed to locking 30 some odd teams. So, yeah, cause this is. Cause I just we've talked about it for so long. And, you know, even before we started the podcast with the XFL and what's gonna, you know, it's clearly going to have to be a bubble and now yeah, I mean at the NFL can do it and you know, we have the story about the mass. You know, our own Pete Carroll getting fined a lot of money for not wearing their mask. Yeah. Andy did you see. And this is a great one. I saw online that he was showing bill Bellacheck and then it was showing that the guy from SpongeBob. This, this superhero with like the mask on his face. Did you see that? But, you know, but they find the coaches this week for not, I like. Quarter million dollars or something, right. With all the different, there was a total of $1.5 million in fines assessed to NFL teams and coaches over the weekend for mask violations. And it's like, I don't understand. Does a mask really muffled you? The headset? Like, I don't know why we're not wearing masks on. It just seems. I turned it on. Cause I didn't watch the Seahawks last week. And then we did watch, I watched the whole game this week and I, yeah, I mean, P and I kept latching laughing because Pete's quite the gum chewer and I'm like, man, he's going to have to hate wearing the skater. He's trying to like, you know, chew behind. But, but there was not there. I was, my point was where there was not a lot of mass to be more, and that was really surprised. And you saw later in the game that they tried to do an ear, Bella checks like barely cover this. It was just, it would be, it was terrible. But yeah, I mean, I think that that's the right move. I think you gotta start, you know, making the case and, and, and finding or whatever. You know, you have to enforce it right. Now you do. And it's, it's unfortunate, but at the same time, it's like, I just, I just hope that we get it all locked down and figured out really soon. So we can go back to a buying our season ticket packages. Cause I know I'm not sure read. You will pay for a cutout. For next year for the dragons. I'm not sure you're going to do that. Yeah. I'm glad you segue. Cause I was going to say. Heather I should. This was, this was our Markcast article of the week. Who do you have this app? Who is this written by? And God blessed them. Exit Val news. Where. Huh. They're they're like they're. Like putting these things out here to try to like, just keep content going. And I appreciate it. A lot, because otherwise without their constant content, Have much to talk about? No, I'm. I'm not disrespecting at all. No, I'm getting who, who, who wrote this? Jake Henry from the XFL news. And I follow him and we like each other on Twitter. God bless him. But this, this was like the Mark article of the week by in the vial. The cardboard cut outs. Brittany in there. I mean, what, what would you pay? What did they do? What were they charging for the MLB? They put cardboard in there. Depends on the depends on the stadium. I know the charge of another charges. I'm sorry. That's NFL. I know the Dodgers were charging people two 50, $250, two 50. It's crazy. I would never pay for a cardboard cutout. No, but you know, you know, there was one franchise that refused, definitely refuse to do this because they're not a poverty franchise. They are the New York Yankees and they would never do something as low rent as this. So here's my question. So, so these are like cardboard, right? Like they're not like a, so do they like, do they have to move on? Like if it rains and stuff, like, is there someone that goes around and collects all these? I don't think they move him when it rains and I mean, thankfully it hasn't rained much in LA. Recently we can see with all the wildfires we've got going on. But I don't think they move them when it rains. And I think, you know, w with situation like T-Mobile park up there, this close the roof, but some places when it rains heavily and all these things just kind of. Yeah, I, I think I know a couple, I've had a couple of wedding couples that are big Mariner fans, and I think my friend Allen, who's a DJ he's had season tickets forever. I think he got a cardboard one at T-Mobile park. But yeah, I mean, I dunno, I just laughed. I just laughed about this. I know we need to exit VOC content. I know we need it, but this was like buying the cutouts and they get priority seating. The team mask. Hey. You get 20 points, 22% off the XFL shop. If you buy a cutout, I mean, one fifth and a little bit more. There's that discount. Yeah, I know this. This was good. I mean, again, we just need content, so I appreciate that, but you know, it, this was like, I just don't know if we're going to be fine. The cardboard cut outs and then getting, but we do, I will tell you right now, if we don't get season tickets carried over. If we come back, if the dragons come back to century like, and we don't get feet options that we had before I am going to ride it. You should. I mean, let's be honest. They should reward. They're old, you know, there's a mailing list somewhere where they should reward all their old. A season ticket holders and I should get the list from the San Diego wild cats. Cause I'm going to stick by them. That story that there are definitely moving to San Diego. I'm sorry. Ma'am and yeah, I should definitely get that. That I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna drive down to San Diego for a Wildcats game, but yeah. I mean, I think they should give you say you want to renew in your very same spot that you had last year. You should get the priority on that. I know. You definitely will because, Oh, hi Mark. You're a Mark. I wanted to talk about that. And. I don't know where you're going to segue, but talking about XML content, did you see the article I sent you from Greg parks? Greg parks. PW torch. And not only is, you know, I listened to Greg and he hosts all the wrestling stuff. And Sunday night in America are wrestling night in America and all that, but he did this whole article talking about like the struggles that it was going to be. And it was so funny because he's like, If you're an XFL fan, if your, if your heart is easily broken, don't read this article because he was talking about all the different, you know, trying to get the TV deals and trying to get the money. And, you know, the rocket man put up this, you know, 15 million, but you know, all the money that's going to be needed. But the point of all of this and the point of sharing that is I think that getting more accessible content out there, and especially from writers, you know, like Greg and like the other people for like the XFL newsroom and whatever, getting that content out, I think is so valuable to just like having more. Well, like well-respected people writing about this stuff, as opposed to just like, you know what I mean? Like it's not just a bunch of like piddly people writing about seven. If you have like actual, you know, online respective personalities, writing about stuff. I think that that helps the XFL is perception out there. But at the same time, like, I think. One photo of the rock, wearing an XFL workout belt. Does a lot more for the product then 18,000 articles about the XFL, because people aren't necessarily going out and searching the XFL. People follow the rock on Instagram, people follow the rock on Twitter. So that one post of him in a workout belt is definitely going to keep it more in the mainstream thought. Then we appreciate the articles, because again, we've said time and time again, if weren't for these articles, we wouldn't have much to talk about. So we definitely appreciate. What they're doing in the content they're providing, but what the rock is doing is definitely exponentially bigger on a bigger stage. To get the XFL, staying in our thought process. And like, and so when I'm reading stuff like. Some of the hurdles that the XFL has when it says overcoming negativity towards the XFL. When Greg brought that up, I'm thinking. I think the negative negativity toward the XFL is gone with the new ownership. What do you think. Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think he had to get Vince out of there. I think that there's a time of Goodwill now. I mean, I think there's a ton of Goodwill and a ton of, you know, still excitement and Amanda it's weak since kind of the purchase and everything now, but I still think that. And like we talked about with Jeff last week, just all the Goodwill, the rock house, and you have the charitability of him and, you know, his wife just kind of disappear in a generally well-liked guy. Sometimes that gets you by and in business and life is just. Being a really nice guy and doing staff and the people like you, and they want to support what you do. So. Definitely. Definitely. Let's see what else we got. Talking about the zoom call. We need to talk about Danny's post on that, that, that set the world on fire. Where is that? Are the call? I'm going to lose it now. Of course I had all this ready. And then here we go. The news. I posted this on the 18th, J J no exposed to desk and Mike Mitchell and we follow each other and he kind of broke down the whatever, but. Cause, you know, that the sale went through, there was all this downtime. You have the rock had Kobe, Danny got her. Thankfully she is on the man. And you know, people are waiting for XFL content, right? And this Instagram post from Danny was like a, just a shot in the arm that everybody needed. And it was, she said, XFL zoom meeting number 42 of the week. And it had a screenshot. It was a zoom call, not dissimilar to the one that we're on now. And it had a lot of big names on it and it got a lot of people excited. What do you think about this? Big names in term of just the rock. I don't know who else is, who else is on the zoom call? I'm looking. It was Jeffrey Pollock. It was her, it was the rock. And then it was a lot of the red bird people. And, and so Mike Mitchell kind of went through and kind of broke it down. Jeffrey Pollock, basil DeVito. Basically was five original XML in place. I can even pronounce these [unknown]. Johnny Thomas van Wazer and Sydney Wagner. And it was, so it was five original XFL employees, Danny, the rock, and then some of the red bird people. And so, but, you know, As crazy if you put, you know, zoom meeting number 42 of the week, that's not, that's a lot of zoom calls. That is that. Is that accurate number 42. That's what it is. I mean, I thought that was weird too, but that's a lot of zoom calls, dude. I can barely tolerate you for one zoom call. That's. 42. Yeah. Again, how was the rock making time? Well, maybe. He was squeezing it. So maybe he wasn't, maybe he squeezed in that one. He's missed 41 other calls that's basically, or maybe just 40. Cause he had probably had, he was probably on the first one and then on the 42nd one. It doesn't hit me act when we're ready to go. But no, but I mean, that's crazy and that's a lot of. I think people want to know. And I know that, you know, they're working in the background and all this, like stealthiness and whatever, but I think people need content. And I think even just like the XFL Twitter account being like stay tuned for big news, I think people would go crazy. I think the fans really, really want just something to know that like, W, you know, we're, we're coming here, something's happening. I mean, I know. And I've been reporting and people have, you know, following how many Twitter followers is the. You know, updates about anything. Right. Whenever it's like, I'm, I'm working and I get a text from you, like, Oh my God. Five followed someone else and I'm going okay. Well, yeah. All right. Well, there's an activity I will say. So last week when we, I shut off my XFL dragons. Football. And I, and I posted it and I tagged it on Instagram and the exit of El dragon Instagram account saw the posts. Every time I posted it and they were active. And so that is a big deal because they wouldn't be, why would they, why would that be open at all? Why would anyone have access to the XFL Siala dragons, Instagram account to be viewing posts? That's a good question. I would say that Danny is probably doing that, but Danny also is involved in 42 zoom calls. So they're there. I don't know if she's doing it, but someone definitely is looking at that. And speaking of which doesn't, didn't the old Seattle dragons president follow you on Twitter. Yes, he did. Ryan Gustafson. Why haven't we brought him on the Markcast why is it always me looking to get the guests? Because you told me he wanted to be a bit for this, sir. I'll I'll have that, Brian. Okay, please. I made a stand and Ryan the message today. I don't think it's going to happen now. I think all this yellow guys are scared to death. I don't think they want to come on and rock the boat. But when we post this on Friday, All I'll tweet this. I'll take Ryan. You'll retweet it with your verified. He'll see it. But I definitely think, I think Ryan he's active again. I saw he was watching the CII, the Seahawks game from his couch. And we're going to get them on. Okay. You. Ryan does understand that we wouldn't walk him into any traps. We just kind of want it. Like we would never, we would want to be positive and want to have a positive conversation. We wouldn't want to like get him. Gotcha. Journalism. No, no, never that. So hopefully Ryan knows that we wouldn't try to like. Pigeon hole them into a situation where he says something controversial. We just want to bring the positive nature. Want to get the word back out? The XFL is definitely coming back. Maybe, maybe Ryan's watching the XFL ICL, dragons, Instagram, maybe he is. That might be a thing. Maybe he still has the info for that. So would that being said, or COVID news now the Baylor Houston game though scheduled for Saturday has been postponed. Oh, that's unfortunate. Apparently Baylor did not meet the COVID-19 game cancellation threat. Thresholds. Because apparently the, they have to have at least seven offensive lineman for interior that hasn't lineman quarterback available to play. That's their protocols. That seems like. You only have 12 people. Well, eh, There's protocols. It seems weird to me. So, you know, is it just cause these college kids are going around and getting all frisky and that. RDN and then the NFL guys or not, is that the deal? Probably, and to take this into another step. I mean, I don't know if you've seen what the CDC in Canada has suggested you do. If you want to engage in those kinds of frisky activities. Try and keep it as clean as possible. BG. We're trying to keep it as PG as possible, but the CDC in Canada recommends no kissing at all during any type of frisky business. So, I mean, Or wear a mask. If you guys both have mass, I guess don't worry about STD is just don't spread COVID. That's the message from the CDC in British Columbia. So I don't know what's happening in college and you know, we're having a more outbreaks in college where I think kids are just not taking it seriously. Who knows? Speaking of which I did get a number on those fans. Number of fans that were at the chiefs game. Cause we talked about 20,000 being at the game. There were over 15,000 in Kansas city at the, at the chief's Texan game. And guess what? Someone definitely tested positive for COVID. Yeah, that's a ton of people. That's a ton of people. And I mean, that's, that's a lot more than even, even a lot of XFL games, especially in Carson city. Ooh. Ooh. Well, I mean, it only holds 16,000. And just pointing out. And this was a great tweet yesterday that got a lot of traction, XFL dragons. Out drawn the Seahawks at century link in 2020. What say you. Cause I know the end of last season. But speaking of speaking of the ribs on the NFL teams, the guardians. Jeff mag mag lift. Lit Yeti tweeted out, which team will have the most wins at MetLife. This year. This year. Jets giants are guardians. Jets giants are guardians. And I think guardians overwhelmingly was winning by a lot by a mile. And I think guardians overwhelmingly was winning by a lot by a mile. Especially with the unfortunate news that San Juan. Kwan is out for the giants for the year. And the jets are just terrible because they have a terrible head coach. I said it, coach. I said it, I don't know if you remember that video of when they introduced I don't know if you remember that video of when they introduced Adam Gase, it was a meme that was on the internet. You have to look it up when we're done with recording the podcast, just look up Adam Gates, just jet press conference. Okay. And just watch his eyes. It is the funniest thing you'll ever see and knowing how good read is in post production. On the video elements of this podcast. He's probably gonna pop that video in right below us. So you guys can all reference. The Adam Gase press conference. Did I promise something that I shouldn't have promised? I will see how motivated that I get today. Whatever. Stopped it down. So anything else you wanted to talk about? We need to, we need to give a little, and I know we were talking about the preseason at all about Josh Davis had a great article about kind of getting to be the people prepped for the, for the season. And we're talking about, you know, cutting the preseason. How long is it going to take? Is it going to take months? All this stuff? So Sam Schwartz, Dean. Like a $5 name. If I've ever heard one eye, he was like one of the big XFL guys and came up with like a bunch of the rules and staff. He tweeted at that. They think it's a, it's a six week turnaround, getting it off. The coach are getting off the couch, get in the plan. I have two weeks of conditioning and walked through one week to acclimate, to hitting two and a half weeks of training camp and then one game week. And so that was this kind of. I saw that floating around a lot. And that was, I guess, good news. Cause we're kind of getting to the end of September and last year, the draft and all that happened in October. And we're trying to figure out like, well, how long, how late would the draft need to be so that we could actually get planned in, in February. And so yeah, the good news would be is I. Yeah, apparently I coordinated the Sam. It would be six weeks. What do you think? I think that's fair. I definitely think that maybe a couple, maybe add another two weeks onto that. Cause I, let me look at Sam's timeline it's it was right up here. It says one game week. I think you need to add another game week to that. I think you definitely need to add another game week two, like the two weeks conditioning, one week acclamation. 2.2 and a half weeks training cab, and then, you know, two preseason games as opposed to one, because I mean, we're seeing what's happening right now. So do you think in six or seven weeks I could play in the XFL. Is that what you're saying? That's not what I'm saying. Okay. Have you ever played football at the high school level? No, I've never, I covered a lot of the high school football. When I worked in news down in Bakersfield, California, Friday night football, FFX cover the lot of a high school football, but never played it myself. So you probably would not, I probably would be in a better spot to get ready for XFL seasonings since I've actually played the game. And I was actually decent back in my high school days. Didn't play at the college level, getting. Yeah, you couldn't be worse than me. No one could be worse than me trying to get. I'm sure we can find some. I'm sure we could name some names of people that could be worse than you at football. Yeah. I have a, I can't even hardly hold my dragons, log it, but, but yeah, we'll, we'll get, I'm trying to look through here. Anything else? We got cold, hard truth. We had talked about the fines, the, Oh, that was the other thing, mr. Dean Blandino what did I say last week, Paul? What was my hypothesis about who could be a commissioner, a potential commissioner of the XFL. I talk about Dean Blandino. Yeah. And I tried to listen to that interview, but it was kind of distracting with the mix minus problems. I know, but who was in the news this week? Doing XFL podcast interviews, being blending. You're blending. I'm just saying. It's just me. I just came up with that. I read a lot of stuff. We read a lot of stuff on here and share a lot of, you know, try to give credit where we can. I just saw him talking about that guy getting thrown out of the football game for head button, the RAF. And I thought, man, he be someone that could come back and I'm not saying it's connected, but I just thought it was interesting. I thought it was very interesting in that he was on there talking about a time when the XFL, well, if, if he becomes commissioner, maybe you should buy some lottery tickets. That might be your next step. That would be good. That would be good. For sure. And then I can buy a two cutouts at the XFL game to cardboard cutouts. You really would do that. I probably. Making fun of it. I probably would buy if I could have mine at my seat and just like reserved. Cause I had. Row one seat. A Rio. If the yard line CenturyLink field, it would cost you $1 million for a Seahawks game. It costs not that for an XFL game. I don't think it would co I think it would cost you more for higher up because row one. At the Seahawks game, you're kind of being blocked a little bit. We had to stand, we had to stand so. It's okay. Not a million dollar suit when the Seahawks play maybe $100,000. See, but on $1 million. No definitely was a good scene. Did you want to add any WWU talking? And we talked about the rock coming back. For, for potential mania match with Roman reigns. I didn't want to discuss the fact that LA appears to have lost WrestleMania. For next year. Yeah, I think, I think we should do this a little bit. If I were talking, I texted you last night. I think maybe a little Debbie, Debbie talk at the end of the podcast. If you're done with the XFL news. Yeah. Won't care about the Debbie. That'd be. I think it's good. Just to do a little, I've talking WWE segment here at the end. If there's stuff to talk about. Yeah. That's huge. That's huge that they're not itself. I think that, but. Vince McMahon, if it weren't for, for that, allowing them to pass that back in March, past the declaration that said that they could work without fans. Right. I do not know where w that we eat would be right now as a business, if they had not been able to take weekly shows, I think they would've lost their deal with Fox half $1 billion. I think they would've lost their deal with USA. I mean, what do you think about that? Like, they basically, it was a godsend that they were able to. Was it a God center? Was it a super pack ad buys? Well, I mean, I think Debbie would have been better off to take the time off and not have, you know, stale drew McIntyre and all this other stuff going on. Wow. Stale drew McIntyre did. Drew is like fricking I, so yeah, so I watched WWE for the first time last night I watched like the YouTube highlights or whatever, when I got home from work. Man, there's a lot of stuff going on in Africa. It was kind of also what I wanted to talk about, but to finish up the selfie thing, I think it was a huge mistake. If they're not taken up there, there. I think everyone would want to see Manny itself. I, this year, I think that's such a mistake that they're not hopping on that. Yeah. Especially if like, if it happens to be that's the first event and fans are able to attend at, so fly, imagine how large the exposure would be. If you were able to say, Hey, we held WrestleMania in so far. It was the first time fans were allowed in so five stadium, that's a big bragging thing because. The WWE Vince has always bragged about being the first live show with an audience after September 11th. They hung their hat on that for years. And I think they still mention it to this day that they were the first and it's like, okay, who gives a crap? Right. But at the same time, it's like, that's a big thing to say. Like we were the first publicly held of it, where we have fans in the stadium. I have so far. And because, you know, you've catered to Rhonda Santa so much. Now it looks like you're going to keep it in Tampa this year. There's good. And there's bad there where we've, we've discussed before. Like having an issue, giving our money to Vince. So maybe the delay in WrestleMania means it gives us enough time to where Vince steps away potentially. Hopefully we know that he might die in the seat. But maybe just, maybe this is more of a, a path to where he can leave and then maybe they treat their workers better. And then we feel better about going and attending these events because that's what stopped me from, you know, watching the WB network, watching the product, which is. I'm going to say it. It's just, it's still horrible. I mean, the retribution thing is, is already, it's already ruined. It's already ruined. Yeah, I hadn't. I heard you. I listened to, you know, Greg and Wade and everybody at PW torch. I listened to a lot of that. The rest of the. And I had heard about, you know, this retribution and Emily talking to right. And so I turned it on last night and I see this and it's like, and this has to be the coldest steak in the world. The one guy looks like bane, right from Batman. Like that's clearly. But it's like, as I was thinking about it, and it was kind of like when you said you had slept not right. Slip, not banned from Iowa, they all had the mass. Yeah, it was a big deal. And then you had like all these Slipknot spinoffs, and then you had mushroom head that was like horrendous, but they were like, they were like a slip knot spin-off and it was kind of like retribution kind of looks like I had the one guy has got like the mask with dreads and the one guy looks like Bain and then the one girl, and we know all these people, right. We know all these shelves. [unknown] it's crazy. They they're like pretending that there are other people. I think Mia. Got promoted up to the main roster because her boyfriend is up on the main roster right now, too. Who is that? Really. You have a picture with him? I don't. You do have a picture with her boyfriend? Yes. I have a picture with a boyfriend. Roman reigns. No, we don't have a. You don't wanna pick, you don't have. Who is it? You don't have a picture of the Roman Marion's we both have a picture with Keithley. I cannot believe that our truth still has the 24 seven title while he's lost it a few times since you've watched. It's crazy. Although I am so glad that little Jimmy's back and I was. Cause I was watching the thing and I'm like watching the clip and every time aren't you starts, I'm like, this is the dumbest segment. It's like him in the water, walking with little Jimmy. This is so stupid. And then by the end, every time it's funny. He's he's so talented. Our truth is talented. I can't it. Can't front on our truth. Being talented. What is it? And I get a text from read, like, I think it was like 1130 at night. He was like, I was tired. Yeah. MVP has a faction now. And I'm like, yeah, for like the last three months, this is talking about the Markcast. I was listening yesterday. This is what inspired me. Cause I was driving back from port Angeles and I was listening to a lot of wrestling recaps. And they go. They go. Yeah. You know, they're hurt business. They kind of have like an evolution vibe. And I'm like, Oh, okay, I'll go check this out. I'm like that. Could not be further from the truth. They are the lamest stable ever. Yeah. It's like, it's like, it's like evolution meets new day. Oh. With a hint of, with a hint of like nation of domination in it too. Yeah, MVP can cut a promo. He comes out there and then you have Bobby Lashley. Hey Bobby Lashley. Her business. I mean. Who cuts a better promo Bobby Lashley. Rakisha. We anybody, but Bobby Lashley, Bobby Lashley looks like that. What was the strongest man in the world could break you with, you know, his pinky and it. He comes out and he talks back. And he he's just terrible. I don't know what you're doing. No eyebrows, Bobby Lashley. Oh, well, I don't pay attention to that. I just, his big ears. He's got the big, weird ears are tiny years tinier. Remember when he was doing that gimmick where he would like come out and pose and then spread. Yeah, I like, I don't, I don't get what Bobby Lashley is doing. Who else has that hurt business thing? It's it's Shelton. Benjamin. Yeah. Yeah. We're still, we're still pushing Shelton. Is it really evolution because Shelton's like the oldest one there. When I thought, I thought Rick flair part was MVP. Well, they were saying that they're like, they have the coolness, like evolution and I'm like, damn. The furthest thing from cool. Cool. That's why I was laughing. Cause I'm like, Oh, yeah. They're like cool. They come out with the suits and all this I'm like, this is terrible, but I do like how Bobby Lashley has got, what's the name of his finisher now it's really dumb named for his, his like, pump. Or that it's the master lock. That's what I was thinking about. The fall, but it's called like the full Ashley. The fall, but it's called like the full Ashley. That's what it's called. It's called the full Ashley. Do you remember the master lock challenge with. How over. That's all I could think when I was watching Bobby Lashley do that was how over the master life challenge was with, with Chris's house. how over the master life challenge was with, with Chris's house. It generated a lot of heat, a lot of heat for the master lock challenge. Who ended up breaking that by the way, was it seen it? Of course. It was, it was [unknown]. Wasn't it. I think what I think happened was he never actually got the lock on [unknown]. Cause that's why they, no, they didn't fight. Yeah. Google this real quick, who broke the master lock challenge? Who broke the master lock up. Huh? Yeah, I'm sure there's like a million Google heads. You're not gonna believe it. Oh, wait, wait, wait, let me guess. Let me guess. Ah, Oh no, I, I. I dunno. Who uses it now? Bobby Lashley. Yeah. Bobby Lashley. Well, okay, well then he can use it. That's fine. If Bobby [unknown]. [unknown] kayfabe only at Bobby Lashley broke the master lock. Then he, then he can be that's my, unlike you, I haven't watched the product in a while. So maybe Bobby Lashley made reference to that. Like I was the one that broke stairway. Boy, Chris masters master lock for the first time. Yep. And their wellness violations. Okay. Maybe that's maybe that's how it's set up where he was like, I'm the one that broke. You know, if they, if they referenced the master lock challenge in 2020, I would. I won't be more over than a lot of the other stuff that they've had. Yeah. Although I will say this, I looked at the ratings. I saw the ratings for. Wow. Quite a bit of a. Quite a bit of a little situation. My throat right now. You gotta be frogs this, this week. Sorry folks. No edits, no edits though. We're going to keep, we're going to accept our flaws as they are, and of which read as many, let's see Sasha banks in Bailey's segment when they broke up, had like 2.3, 5 million viewers. Which. Those numbers are unheard of. So they've got some things going for them, but other things like the hurt business. The yarn business. The last thing I, well, why the last thing is about is how stale drew McIntyre is. Oh my gosh. Stop it stop it, but also that, so. So drew I drew McIntyre is a Scottish wrestler, right? He's like, that's, that's like literally his gimmick is, he's a bad ass Scottish wrestler. And so they're sitting there last night and retributions fighting the hurt business is so it's it's that the mushroom had. You know, clone and then the evolution cloud. And they're fighting. And then, you know, the locker room poor is that in here, you hear these bagpipes. Bird and the announcer's like, wait, wait. Who's music is that? Oh, Oh, it's drew McIntyre. I'm like, it's got big pipes in it. Roddy Piper's dead. No one else is gonna have bad PR. With their music. You know what I mean? Cause they were trying to do like the Jim Ross, like good God, good God. That's so cool. He's a good God, but I was like, this is absolutely like, and they're trying to act like it's a big pop. He comes out, Randy Orton RKO came out of nowhere and I'm like, yep. Drew McIntyre done. Done. No, he's not done. You have, you have a sour taste in your mouth over the drew McIntyre promo we saw in Dallas. That's your issue? I think they take the belt off him Sunday. I think they do too, but I think they're waiting to get him a bigger pop than what he cause that rumble, when he won the rumble match and he kicked Brock out, he got a pop, he did get a Poppy's over. And I know you're mad about the prom. We cut Dallas where he's like, just one more minute, Johnny, just 30 more seconds, Johnny. Like he was cutting a promo about being fed up and he kept telling Johnny Gargano to like, just five more minutes, Johnny, just, and then kicks Johnny, like after delay Johnny for like 24 minutes. Then he just kicked him. It was, it was a funny promo, but Reed's. It's been sour on him ever since I tell ya. And then I, and then also. Are we still doing Rey, Mysterio, paternity tests. 20, this was, this was a storyline that was when Eddie Guerrero past, right? Or was it, was he still alive when it alive? I mean, this was back in like 98, right? When was this? When did we do one? It's crazy. 19 years later, we're still doing Raymond Syria, paternity tests. I'm checking right now. It's crazy that you have Rey. Mysterio is feeding with Seth Rollins. They've been feuding for like six months. They've been few the incense. I stopped watching the product. Rey Mysterio. Scott is, I pulled out now he, I mean, fake story of I, and he's got an eyepatch. And it's crazy. I can't believe that. A timeline on this. Sounds right. One Oh, two that's. I mean, it's been over 15 years, we're still doing the same stupid story. I think it's been longer than that. It was summer slam. I'm trying to think it was summer slam where. You hear there's a part in the match where Eddie falls down and you hear him like cussing Vicky out 2000. 2003. Okay. You hear him cussing Vicki out like dammit Vicky. You can hear him. Cause apparently Vicki, mr. To come in and interfere in the match. So yeah, they were talking about it on a botch of mania the other day. So yeah. We're we're we're doing a storyline from 17 years ago. Where this is going. Yeah, I just, I had. Debbie Debbie in a long time. And I just thought there's a lot going on here and I wanted to be talking about it. So thank you. Is a lot going on here that we didn't need to watch. Yeah. Yeah. Well, anyway, we were padding. The X about Mark asked this week. We got a little WWE. That'd be talking there. I think that's good. So I think we're good. So enjoy, hopefully next week we have a lot more news to cover. Hopefully we have some announcements. We're looking at you. And of course, if you want to buy some XFL, Markcast merch. Log-on XFLshow.com/merch. And of course for net Gaters and stuff like that, please rate the podcast, ranked this podcast.com/xfl.

XFL Markcast Episode 6 - No Calf Muscles Were Torn Featuring Geoff Magliocchetti

Another week. It's the XFL Mark cast. Paul Sanchez. Reid Johnson here. You need to say your name with more enthusiasm. It's it's kind of. Come on man. I just age, I try to be a little casual about it. Try to be a little more casual, Carl, you know, casual Carl. So it's, what's what's the week that we're in now for our podcast week, number six, number six. Yeah. Cardale Jones blocked you on Twitter. Yeah, it's been a tough week. You were saying that you didn't know, you were saying, Hey, where do we want to start today? And I'm telling you today, Paul. Failed spectacularly on I think on every front, I don't think it could have failed more if we had tried. So. So today, yes. Cardale blocked us on Twitter, all accounts on a, on Instagram. And that we were talking before the show YouTube views on the latest episode, demonstrably lower than any other episode thus far. So would you like to go on record and say Cardale? Jones can't draw dime. I will say that. And I will say out of that Cardale Jones does not listen to the Mark. Asked at. Can we remove that shirt from a ex-felon. Bell show.com/march then? No, I think, I think we should keep her that for posterity for a little while. See, I. Make it say Cardale Jones doesn't listen to the market. This is not at all. Yeah. Emphatically. No. I didn't even mention him on my verified account. And I got that account block too. Yeah, it was crazy. So now, I mean, you know, I think we tried this shenanigans. I think we got a lot of news to talk about today, but yeah. I mean really just, just failure on all fronts on our part. So. You also got a special delivery. You showed me on Instagram. Do you want to pull that out here? Well, Once you got in the mail. Please. Well, I'm still waiting for our official XFL Mark Caskey or the com, which I believe will come tomorrow. I got the email that my hats are coming tomorrow. I did get finally my official. Dragons football. It's awesome. I got it on eBay. Not holding it correctly, but it's fine. I don't, I don't play football, but I got it. You know, with everything coming back, like I said, I found it on there's a great seller on eBay. He's got like a bunch of old stuff too, like old hitmen jerseys and like, he hated. Yeah, it's Vince trying to. Yeah. Well, van will tell you a van, the man, our number one fan will tell you that, you know, he's still trying to track down all the old XFL merge. Cause there was like merge. They didn't sell. And Dan thinks that there's like a truck somewhere on the side of a highway. That's got a bunch of old. XFL merge, but yeah, they're sold out in the exit, foul a store. But I got this on eBay and it's a, it's a great point and I'm really happy about it. So I'm going to go put this back now. Okay, well, there you go. Reid has a dragons football. He's wearing his dragons Jersey. He's got a dragon Dragon's Jersey hanging up. Reed is the ultimate dragons Mark today. On the XFL Marcus, I even added my old LA Wildcats shirt right there. I'm not going to go out and buy a, he hate me Jersey on eBay. I'm not going to go out and buy a, he hate me Jersey on eBay. I don't think that's, it's funny, but nonetheless, I don't think I'm going to do that. So, yeah, so I was asked offline earlier this week from our friends, Paul Williams and Michael, and they said that they were curious what your MFA, what your football team was. They said, Hey, you know, listen to the Merc ass what's Paul's team. And I said, well, he bleeds red, yellow for the wild cats. And that's it. I didn't think you had another team. I don't have another X of Altium. I have an NFL team. I do, I do support the Seahawks. So I'm still, you know, I'm still true to what I, you know, that, but in terms of XML team, this is the only. This, the only LA team are really rude for really, truly cause I'm like, you know, I've traveled so much. That, you know, when the XFL got announced, it just kinda made sense, like, Oh, okay. I'll, I'll root for an LA team. And of course I know the branding was probably trying to play on the U S C a little bit there. So it's kind of weird to have red and yellow use colors in my house, but yeah, of course, LA wild cats all the way, all the way red and yellow bleeding it all the way as long, as long as they keep Cardale Jones off the team. Whenever we're all good. Yeah. I'm starting, I'm starting, like I'm starting like a gimmick gimmick kind of thing with Cardel where I've just like, I think any XFL player would be happy. And like, the thing is, is we paid him for the cameo. Like he got paid. For the cameo and then got like, mad about it. I know. And it's not like we're, we're disrespecting him. Like, it was just like, Hey, like we're fans, we're fans of yours. Yeah. And you're going to act like that. Like, Don't be it's fan. That's all I gotta say about that. Let's move on. The last time he, he, that shall not be mentioned. That's the last time I've ever going to say that name on the podcast. We're done. Speaking of a craziness though, I'm in the NFL. Did you see Jamie Collins? What happened with them? Yeah. I saw this this morning. And it's crazy that he was trying to show the wrath that he got someone had a low tackle or tried to head by them. And he got thrown out of the game. Talk to me about this. So, you know, they have all these social distancing rules right now and, you know, NFL coaches are also, they're watching NFL coaches closely to make sure they're wearing their masks. Did you see Andy Reid's visor on. The chief's Texans game on Thursday night, he had like this visor that was all fogged up. Made them look like iron man. They're making sure that these social distancing guidelines aren't here too, which is kind of hard to do in tackle football. But yeah, he, Jamie Collins just kind of ducked his head down to show the ref what was going on. I ended up coming into a space and actually ended up bumping the RAF, which is a no-no even incidental. Unintentional contact. You can't do that. So Jamie Collins got thrown out of the game. He was probably going to face a fine and a suspension for even touching a ref. And during these times of, you know, social distancing, you can't do stuff like that, especially in the NFL, unless it is of course, to tackle another player. Yeah, we got one. You know, can't exchange jerseys, but you can tackle other PEO players it's completely acceptable. Well, the other thing that I thought was interesting about this, so I originally saw this on Twitter cause I was, I had weddings like every day, I didn't get to watch any of the football games. Even Thursday, we had the wedding. But they had the, and I don't know what show are there in that thing. It is, but Dean Blandino was on there talking. What's one of the clips I sent you and, you know, he was famously, they had to have like the officiating at the XFL. Right. There's just what, what if he was a commissioner when he come back, he come back to the XFL. What's he doing now? I don't think he's doing anything. I mean, he's talking on Twitter about Jamie Collins getting thrown out of a football game, but I'm saying like really what's he. That was an idea. Well, does Dean Blandino want to be a villain? That's my question now, because, because. Commissioners of sports are villains, you know, like kinda like how we're talking about Vincent man being, you know, being a villain during the, you know, as the owner being the villain commissioners are villains. And for example, I'm gonna talk, I'm gonna bring up another sport. Rob Manfred wants to. Permanently expand the amount of teams in the MLB playoffs to 16. Which. We're we're, we're dealing with it for this year because of the shortened season. We're like, wait, let's let more teams in just to get more of a season in, but he's talking about doing it permanently. And the problem is, is like the big knock or the NBA is. You have 32 NBA teams and 16 of those way, do you have 32 teams? I'm. I might be wrong. I might, you might be. We might have 30 NBA teams. Forgive me for a second. It's the XFL. Mark has. This isn't the MBA, Marc Casper with us here. Yeah. Oh, we have 30 NBA teams and out of those 30 NBA teams, 16 make the playoffs, which means more than half, less than half the teams don't make the playoffs. That's crazy to me. And now, and now. Julie baseball is talking about going the same thing. It kind of feels like the regular season becomes irrelevant at that point. I think six, five or six is the perfect number for any sport. The NFL does it. I think now they do a seven now. I think they always add like a team every five or six years to kind of round it out and it's like, let's keep it as exclusive as possible in terms of number of teams. But does Dean Blandino. I want to be that, that. Evil guy. And I'm not saying Oliver luck was Eva. All of our luck did a lot of great things for the XFL. We, we don't want to say that at all, but commissioners tend to become villains. It's just a natural progression. So. Does Dean Blandino want to do that? He'd be great for the sport, but does he want to do that? The last thing we saw, Dean was a, it was the dragons roughnecks game with three seconds left on the clock. When PJ Walker didn't understand how to, how to throw away the ball and all the players laughed and they got Dean on a, I think it was on Fox and CNN or Fox or ESPN, whichever one. I mean, NASDAQ's got them on and they go, Dean, there's still three seconds left in the game. And he said, I, yeah, I don't know the game's done. And so that was the last to any of the XFL fan sob D by the end. It, but I'm just saying, you know, we're talking about like, you know, bringing back Jeffery Pollack, we're talking about, you know, commissioner, as we talked last week about that. Ah, excellent news hub article talking about all the different commissioners. I just say it that's someone that's been with the sport and he's still relevant and he's not all of our luck. So. It's a, it's a possibility. It's definitely a possibility. We got, hang on one second. Sorry. How's that. We have a empire sports med beat writer for the Liberty, Jetson, NASCAR, and former guardians beat writer. Geoff Magliocchetti coming up talking about potential issues with the Guardian's going forward. But one thing I wanted to bring up was the Tampa sports authority. Involvement in the Vipers XFL, the bankruptcy case. What did you know about this Reid? Well, and so I was listening again and Mark was talking about this on the podcast too, on the new side. It's interesting because Tampa is coming out and saying that they're owed $30,000 for each of the three games that weren't played, you know, that. XFL had, you know, five go home games apiece, and they played two home games at Raymond James stadium. And then there was three more. But what's interesting about it is. If you're the XFL a, you know, we've talked about relocation, moving into Orlando, moving, you know, whatever, getting out of the Tampa. If you're not interested in doing that, then you just say, well forget, you guys were like on the pay that, but the fact that they're kind of going through all this means that potentially the XFL would still be interested bubble or not, you know? To, to remain in Tampa next year, you know, or whatever, but still keep that the same way they did with the Houston, you know, with, with T DCU or whatever stadium there, universities. No, but I, yeah, I, I like to be a, you know, Precise Paul. That's still precise. That's where the university of Houston place. Bye baby. It shows that they're still interested in it, maintaining the relationship with them, which I thought was good. So. So hopefully this, this a legal issue gets cleared up. Maybe that's part of the, part of the agreement. Like maybe hold half the bubble in Houston, half the bubble in Tampa. And that way Tampa gets their money. Maybe that's the that's the solution, but can we change the colors on the Vipers? No. I like having my eyes bleed when I watched the games. So terrible. Just horrendous man. Well, even like, it was even so bad that like, cause some of the ones who is, is at. Taylor Cornelius. And I see his eyes and it almost kind of looked like a Viper because like the green, you know, like sometimes you get like that. I had the light bouncing back and you're like, Oh, he really does kind of look like a vibrant, cause it was just so much neon green, like reflected on every, it's kind of like how, if you poorly light a green-screen, sometimes the green will reflect on your skin if you're really pale. I know a lot of people aren't getting tans right now. Cause of COVID. So I've seen, I've seen a lot of YouTube videos. I'm looking at you, Simon Miller over what culture, where that green tint is showing up in your skin. Get into, get into the sun or get into a tanning booth, sir. Also, I know about poorly that in green screens, I am the King of importantly that in green screen. Is that the one is that your weakness? That's my, that is my kryptonite, honestly is, is the green screen lighting? That is, that is my kryptonite. Yeah. Yeah, can't do it. I'm going to have to show you how to do something. You can't do it. Yeah. Credible. I think I say this, I say this as a compliment, because like I've always said on record to numerous people have asked me, I was like Reids a better photographer than I am, and I've constantly given, Reid that credit. So, so for me to have at least one thing I could say I could do better. It's kind of a badge of honor, but yeah. I'm gonna take that. I'm going to take that. W as limited as they come, I'm going to take that winning. NME is in green screen, lie to you and I'll give them to you. I'm going up after the break. Coming up on the other side of this, I should say, I don't want to say coming up after the break, but coming up on the other side of this, we're going to talk to empire sports med, beat writer. Geoff Magliocchetti. Jetty, he's going to talk about the guardians issues and going forward with the rocks ownership. Coming up next. That's a $5 name. If I've ever heard one. How's it going? Well, thank you for having me. Of course, we appreciate you coming on, man. Oh, happy to help. We just wanted to bring you on to have you chat about the XFL what's you. Glad to be here. Happy to help. We're glad to have you on. So we, we we're we're we've been fans for a while. We we're both season ticket holders of LA and Seattle respectively. And, and we noticed our, our attendance numbers were solid, but the guardians weren't as solid. Do you, do you know what was going on with that during the year? Is it the venue? What what's going on? Yeah. I think one thing that I think one thing that's particularly in the New York area, you might understand this kind of a two pole with so many teams in Los Angeles. I think there was a bit of, there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. I think in some cases, and I do think New York does suffer from an act sometimes in some cases and. You know, I think, you know, you, you would expect like maybe there would be a boost because you know, New York is so desperate for winning football. I mean, look at, look at. Just look at Sunday and Monday. I don't think we have to the list. I said about the giants and jets, the better let's just leave it at this point. You had to, you have to look at what's going on in February. At the time you have hockey playoffs. Not now play offs, but you know, it's deep enough in the regular season. Same with basketball. I think New York personally will always be a basketball town because it's the one type of it's the one place. Where it's like one of the few places really where basketball is ingrained into the culture. If that makes sense, you know, The courts are local landmarks. That's that's the way I see it. So. Yeah. F****r park the cage, everything like it's part of the culture it's ingrained. And I don't mean to go off topic. I apologize. I'm just. All it's all on topic. Oh, great. Great. But there, but I do. I do think. And you look at the sheer number of teams in New York, too. There's three hockey teams or two basketball teams. The two baseball teams are getting back into, into the group things. And how can we get there's three basketball teams. You gotta talk about the New York Liberty as well. They do a fantastic job over there. So I think that their season just ended too. It's unfortunate, but. I think there is such a thing as too much of a good thing. I think one way to boost attendance numbers in a way, maybe not so much in the sheer number, but in terms of sheer excitement. Embrace the New Jersey aspect of everything. Having a team in New York does seem to be kind of like the. It's it's, it's essential almost. I feel it's to have a team of both New York and LA. There's a reason. Those two were the markets that came back from XFL. One point Alexa held 2001 where, you know, you had the Hitman and the extreme, and now you had the guardians in the wild cats, respectively. So I feel like, you know, having a team in New York is essential because you know, it's the media market, it's the city. You could make it there and you can make it everywhere. Welcome to New York. It's been waiting for you to quote boats, Sinatra, and Swift. I'm a fan of both. I think. I think that a good thing to do would be to embrace the Jersey side of things. Because look, I think, I think we discovered throughout the past decade, the past decade plus New Jersey has a personality of its own. It's there. It's got everything. The exit, those were to embrace that. I think it would really be beneficial. So that's why I think moving over to a red bull arena would be very beneficial. I mean, look what happened. Reid, I'm sure you're familiar with the concept over in Seattle, which does it, which is one of the. Is one of the more effective. MLS teams over there to speak Sounders Sounders, right? Yeah, absolutely. They do a great job over there over at century link. So I think they do a solid job over there, but look what the DC defenders were able to do. They set their base of operations over at Audi field ended up fantastic job. They had, you know, the Cubs snake, the whole. It felt like the fans are like right on the players at the time. So I feel if they were embraced the Jersey side of things and make red bull arena, their base of operations, I think things would very much move in their favor because. It was the same. It was the same problem in the original version to the New York, New Jersey hitmen. We're second in the original XFL in terms of attendance in terms of numbers, but the place still looked like a. Do still looked almost empty because the old giant stadium, as we know it was a cavern and they looked like there was no one. There was second only to what the San Francisco demons posted at, what was then known at the time as Pacbell park. So I feel that if you embrace the Jersey side of things and go over to Harrison, I think that could really be beneficial for all sides. Embrace the Jersey side of this, get things going, moving to the right direction while still embracing your New York roots in a way. I completely agree with that. I felt like the ADI field, the Audi field decision. Decision was. It kind of felt like it kind of felt like they were embracing almost the soccer crowd. And certainly people that were into football football, but like, At soccer type atmosphere. So I noticed that when we went, we actually went to the opener in DC. Okay. The fenders, so, Oh, that's great. It was, it was definitely an interesting thing. And I don't mean to pile on more with a giant jets and giants, but I do want to point out that the New York Yankees. More more runs. Then points. Combined. Yeah. That's terrible. There's good. The other thing about that now look, Oh man. I'm, I'm not a soccer guy, to be honest, I'm not a soccer guy by any stretch of the imagination, but one thing I, I will admit. Their fans are great. I like the whole thing where, you know, they're singing and they're dancing and they're banging on the musical instruments, the whole game. I like that whole thing. And that's what the XFL tried to embrace. And that's what the XFL tried to embrace. I thought that was solidly done. I thought DC had a great thing gone. I thought that was solidly done. I thought DC had a great thing gone. Awesome. MetLife is just enormous. I mean, that was the thing is you could still put 15,000 people in there and it's still, I mean, it's, it's just such a big stadium that there was no. Yeah, it's gigantic. And it's unfortunate too, because you know the other thing about MetLife, what, while I think it's, I think it's, you know, it's luxurious, this, this app is great. Everyone does a great job over there. The thing about MetLife is that unfortunately it's too generic and that's kinda what I was thinking. Watching the Sunday night football game between the Cowboys and the Rams in. You know, you see Sophie stadium it's it looks fantastic. It's like, it's, it's cute. Ristic it's it. And you look at the other places around the league to have cost. It may have cost so much as well, but places like Atlanta, for example, too. Las Vegas. I mean, The state. Yes, Jerry world too, as well. I feel that, you know, I feel that if you go to red bull arena, you can almost, you can, you can embrace the sense of I'll put the, I'll put this way, the sense of elegant silliness. The new XFL wants to embrace. Very very good points. Very good points all around. When you heard the rock was buying this thing, what did you think was the initial future for the XFL? Well, I wanted to know what the. I wanted to smell what the rock was cooking. That's for damn. That's for darn sure. No. And I also think another great move would be let's name. Let's rename all the teams after a rock movie. So Seattle can be renamed the scorpions, for example, named that for courses for banking. It'd be like, I'm a one person in America. It's still remembers that movie, but you know, here's what it is. And let me returns score peaking. I mean, you can, you can name, you could name Jersey the fast and the furious. Jersey the Jersey fury. There you go. But I digress. Of course, of course some teams is going to get stuck with the tooth fairies. Unfortunately, maybe you'll have your. Monkeys in there. I'll probably be LA let's be honest. So no problem. Only tooth fairies. Hey, I think, I think it could work. I think of course you get hit, you get him on the logo, on the helmet. It would look good, but what, what I like about. This is that there is name brand recognition for the XFL beyond just football, because I think, I think there is a very good crossover between football fans and fans that Dwayne, the rock Johnson C it feels like in these divided times. That. The appreciation and love towards Dwayne. The rock Johnson is one of the few things we can agree on these days. He's one of the few people that is universally beloved and very much well. So I'm a, I'm a big fan too. I mean, how can you, how can you hate the rock? Come on. I mean, you know, he, he started, he started in these ridiculous left yet fun movies. He he'd seats. He's very generous. He's very charitable. He's a family, man. I mean, how can you not, how can you not like a Rocky personifies the American dream and every way, pulled himself up by his bootstraps and really got things going. How can you not like the. With these leagues, you always see a lot of names. Attached to them as like, for example, B both versions of the XFL had bits, man, and you saw the lines of American football. They had several, several well known NFL names attached to them and spoke on and off the field. I believe guys like Justin tuck, we're involved in the formation of it. Charlie Ebersol was of course the mastermind behind the AAF and on the field. You had guys like Steve Spurrier, for example, but when you, but none of them, all of them combined pale in comparison to Dwayne, the rock Johnson who let's face it. Has made some good decisions over the past few years. And whether it's, you know, the term, the terms of the quality of movie movie he's doing, or, you know, in terms of the box office performance, you look at the box office standings and there's rock movies all over the place. I mean, the guy has made the guy. Well let's face it. He is more responsible for the re-enter. What's what's the word I'm looking for. Rebirth. Let's put that like of the fast and the furious franchise more than VIN diesel ever could. So, and you look at other, you look at like, and Jumanji to that property was dead in the water for about two decades and he breathed new life into it. So I think when you have a name like Dwayne, the rock Johnson, people are going to take you seriously. And people are going to know that this is not something to be laughed about. This is something that is that plans to be sticking around for a while. Well, I mean, look at, even at that, and we were going to talk in the podcast too, in that the NFL game on Sunday, they have the rock cut-out. Queen queen Elizabeth and it's like, he's. You know, they got those two together. Right. Anybody of all the dumb cutouts, you know, that they had, that's who they go to. Right. And then they even talked about the exit valve email. He sat out. Yeah, the rocks getting into football, but I mean, who else would have a cardboard cutout next to the queen? You know, and I get called out on national television like that. You. Then the rock. I mean, that's crazy. No, it's absolutely right. I mean, he has a universal appeal that goes just beyond mere football and I think that's great and it shows, and it's a good sign for what this league is trying to do. I feel. Yeah. And on that note. Do you think that the rocks prior history with football? I mean, he did, you know, he did play college. He also played the CFL. Do you think that helps him in terms of putting a better on-field product out that maybe Vince McMahon. Because Vince. Really didn't play football that much, like, like on their level rock dead. No, I think, I think it could 100% because Vince McMahon was just worried about putting on a good show and for all intents and purposes, I think he did succeed in some of those areas. He was just worried about a good show and if the money was coming in and unfortunately. Due to circumstances beyond anyone's control the money did not come in. Unfortunately, so Andy and he opted to and he opted out. So I feel that, you know, his, his, his expertise and his love of football certainly plays a factor. He knows both the on-field side of it, and he knows the off the field side of it too. He knows how to make the money. And he knows the, he knows the entertainment value as well, being involved in WWE for a solid number of years. So I feel that. You know, once again, this, you couldn't have asked for a better name than Dwayne, the rock Johnson at the helm of this. I feel awesome. Geoff Magliocchetti, we thank you for your time. Thank you for coming on and talking next about with us. Hey guys. Thanks for having me on keep up the great work looks like you got a great operation going. Well, the backgrounds, by the way, you guys are doing a great job. So. Great work. We'd love to do this again. Thanks. Thanks so much. We want to thank Geoff Magliocchetti for his time here. Right here on the XFL Mark cast. I want to get through some more of these news items before we depart this, this week. I read this article and I started kind of laughing about it. I hate to say it. NFL XFL merging could be more realistic than you think. Is is, this is the, this is the XFL Mark articled, man. This is like, and the, and the heat that this got online when people like, well, clearly you guys are just running out of this stuff to write about. Because, you know, and this is, this is true. We, till I was thinking about this this morning, you know, we, we got on this, I thought, okay, XFL is coming back the rock, you know, tons of whatever. We're going to get all this news coming out. Everything else. And then I think, you know, we started a bunch of the different sites, started hiring writers and staff, and now it's like, There is not a lot, you know? Yeah. I mean, I got, I got a list of stuff today, but I mean, this is, you know, cultivated throughout the week, trying to figure out stuff to talk about. And when you got riders or they're trying to write stuff like every day, trying to get clicks. Yeah. You started talking about NFL XFL merger. Yeah. I mean, he did bring up a point that maybe the XFL would be smart to put a team in Oakland because of the st. Louis experiment. I shouldn't say experiments. The st. Louis thing happened. It succeeded the st. Louis team succeeded. I mean, you're not going to move to Seattle. You're not going to move the team out of Seattle because of course we've discussed how great it was to embrace kind of the soccer atmosphere. And even though. The Dragon's planet of century link, the Sounders play there too. So it kind of still had that. So maybe, maybe just maybe the LA Wildcats become the Oakland Wildcats. And, you know, Getting hurt, but yeah, no, I. It's just funny that I think that was going around. Some of the Facebook groups do, and people were just like, get this trash out of here, but it's good. I mean, we got, we have got to have content, you know, we're waiting. Not only is what, like we got to converse about the XFL. We gotta, we gotta keep the XFL relevant. If we're talking about it, keeping it relevant is, is posting. Sometimes some takes that are. Completely out of left field and maybe not as great as people think they might be, but you know, it could be, it could be a situation where it's like click bait, kind of maybe a little bit of performance art to suggest an extra bell and NFL merger. I mean, we did, we have discussed before. The NFL use didn't use to have the sky cam and the XFL brought that in, in 2001, they had that sky cam on the field. Through the ropes and now every NFL game, every college football game has that. So, yeah, I mean, you know, there, there there's something to be said that maybe some of the things that XFL did in C in. Apple, one of the most successful companies in the entire world, Apple, one of the most successful companies in the entire world, basically. Click bait event yesterday, where they were saying. Hey, you know, let's. Let's come, but you know, we got our September event, every September. For the last eight years, we've released a new iPhone. And then this year it's Apple watch and iPads and iPhones are made of Apple can do click bait. And I think that, I think that accidental news. Can get, can get a little pass with the other. Click bait. Okay. That's fair. That's a fair thing to say. We also wanted to discuss real quick. Also the big 12, I'm sorry, not the big 12, the big 10. I get confused because it's not the big 10 anymore. It's like the big 16. It's like the big 10 plus six. Basically. They have just now announced that they are going through with football for, in October. Of course, before that. The big 10 had sided with the PAC 10 and said, you know what? We're not PAC 12. I should say, I'm still getting used to that. Utah and Colorado, please forgive me. The pack 12 and big 10 had agreement where they're like, well, we're not going to play football. This, this winter, this fall. Sorry, not sorry. And now they're going to go ahead and play football. The big 10 at least is going to play football. Do you think there's potential? Do you think this potentially hurts the XFL at all? Coming back up in X year? Well, I think, you know, we had talked about pushing some of the games to the spring, some of the college stuff to the spring. So I think, you know, obviously not doing that is going to be key right. To the XFL success is kind of keeping the spring free for, you know, XFL football, but. I decided it was interesting. Cause you know, and this is, you know, people are getting back to school now, you know, colleges are going back. There was all these hypothetical's for weeks and weeks, you know, now we've got. now we've got. Cases go and everything else. I mean, we're, Cases go and everything else. I mean, we're, I think everyone's kind of feeling it out, I think everyone's kind of feeling it out, but I think that more and more teams that are doing it now certainly but I think that more and more teams that are doing it now certainly makes me feel better about the XFL doing stuff in the spring. makes me feel better about the XFL doing stuff in the spring. I think, I think what happened was the MBA kind of figured out the bubble model. The MLB has kind of expanded upon it where we did have some hiccups to begin with. We did have, like, you know, the Miami Marlins couldn't play. I think it was for like a week and a half after their outbreak of COVID. We have the st. Louis Cardinals also had an outbreak of COVID, but I think. The more, the more, the deeper we get into this COVID crisis. The easier it is to figure out things like how to keep players in a bubble, how to isolate players. If they've been exposed to COVID, the testing is more rampant. I think all of those things are what played into shutting. Everything down is because. If you had symptoms, you couldn't get tested. I mean, I had a lingering cough for two months and because I didn't have any other symptoms here in LA, they told me I couldn't get tested. Come to find out I got the antibody test and I did have COVID at a certain point. So. Now, now everybody knows someone with add who has actually had COVID. I didn't know I had it, but that's, that's the truth. But now with testing being way more rampant, I went to the hospital the other day. And they're like, yeah, we'll give you a COVID test while you're here. Blah, blah, blah. And they, you know, did the nose thing at, which is rather uncomfortable. I don't know if you've had it done, read yourself, but avoid it all costs. I don't leave the dragon down here. I'm here most of the time. So I don't. I see you working though. You're still doing weddings and that's, that's good that, you know, you, there's still some, some events going on. I think people are getting more comfortable. People are figuring out how to avoid exposing themselves to this. So let's keep up the good work, everybody. And please, please. This isn't a political statement. Just wear the mask. If you just wear the mask. Like you wear your pants or your socks or your shirts, except in some areas, I guess you don't wear shirts, whatever. Just wear the mask. I show.com/emerge for the sick. Ah, excellent. A gaiter mass. You have. We have navigators and we have also regular cloth face masks. Online XFL show.com/merch. Please. I almost, I almost want to like start providing coupons to give you guys free mass. So we can just go back to eating in restaurants and movie theaters. Maybe we could do that. Maybe that could be our giveaway. We were talking about doing shirt giveaways for our review as maybe we could give away masks, let's give away masks. I think it's a better idea. Your choice, , our mask. We're going to pick let's pick five people that review it. a mask. You can get a free , a mask on us because Cardale Jones isn't taken our charity money. So let's, let's put it to some good use. And let's start giving away some masks so we can get back to regular normal life. Please rate this podcast.com/extra foul as the place to leave reviews for any of your podcasts he needs. And that yeah, if you, if we get a review that comes in the next week, we'll, we'll send you a free mask or a, or a cloth mask. On the note of other sports coming back into play, NFL ratings are down. Obviously. I don't know if that's a political thing, but NFL ratings are definitely down this year. And you would, you would be surprised because everybody wants to see the new shiny toy that's sitting in here in LA. The potential home of WrestleMania I've lost count WrestleMania, whatever it is. WrestleMania LA Hollywood. It's not play button cause play button was in San Francisco. Is it seven will be WrestleMania. Is it? Cause this year is 36. Is it seven will be WrestleMania. Is it? Cause this year is 36. It will be next year, right? 37. It will be next year, right? 37. I think this way you're starting seven. I think this way you're starting seven. Cause there are the it's this it's this spring. Right? Cause there are the it's this it's this spring. Right? Cause the next year they're going back to Tampa Bay. Yeah. Cause the next year they're going back to Tampa Bay. Yeah. They make up to me to make a, anyone that didn't. They make up to me to make a, anyone that didn't. WWE WrestleMania 37 is going to be here in LA. WWE WrestleMania 37 is going to be here in LA. I thought that WrestleMania 37 was Tampa. I thought that WrestleMania 37 was Tampa. For some reason I'm losing count because they're not naming them For some reason I'm losing count because they're not naming them numbers anymore. They're just saying WrestleMania. With a, with a flag. That's all they're doing. So WrestleMania 37 is going to be here. And I'm just reading an article about some, some potential venue conflicts here. During that weekend. What are we thinking about? I wanted to hear about this, about the XFL era, the NFL ratings. And, and this is what I don't get any way to like, so back in the spring, you know, we had no sports knowing that then whatever they bring back, women's soccer, they do the big turn, the man it's on like CBS, all access, right. Then they bring back like the MBA. Okay. We need sports. We need sports. All I hear about his ratings being down. I know there's a lot of political stuff going on. Now. The NFL is back. All I hear is, you know, for months NFL, we need sports. We need sports. And now they're talking about how the ratings are down. Like, what is, what is going on with this? Can you please explain this? To me. I really want them. I do believe this is political. I'm not gonna like, hold my opinion back. I think people are kind of upset about the political message. They want these athletes to quote unquote, shut up and dribble. That's what Laura Ingram has said to LeBron numerous times. If LeBron has, is just shutting up and dribbling, then he's not building a school for underprivileged kids in Akron, Ohio. Like at this point, these athletes are doing good and they are bringing attention to social issues and, and black lives matter is an issue we need to pay attention to. It is. I'm not, you know, and if you're not, if you're offended by that, I don't, I, I, I'm sorry. That's just the way that's the way it is. And I understand the statistics show that more white people are killed by cops every year in terms of numbers. Yes. By about a hundred. I get that. But we're talking per capita percentages. When you have a thousand of something and 300 are gone. Then you have 500 something and two 50 are gone. You're gonna, you're gonna, you're gonna look at the percentages and go half of that are gone. And we're not saying that everyone dying by police fire, like there are more lives that are more expendable than others. We want police. You know, people that believe in black lives matter police brutality to stop to all races, not just black people. And I think that's getting lost in the, in the messages that the, the protest or for police brutality, they're not for black supremacy. And I think the political messages is what's kind of causing the downtick and ratings. But if we just listened to what they have to say, Maybe just maybe. We can, we can, we can get past the idea of a political issue being the reason why the ratings are down, because that's what I think it is. Cause it's good. Yeah. I just, I meant to read them, you know, I meant to look into it. We're recording on Wednesday, you know, I meant to look in and do it Monday and then Tuesday after Monday night football and stuff and yeah, I just. It seems like Brady had good viewership for his game, but it just seemed like they said they were down like 2 million or something year over year, which you would just, you know, all you talk, all, everyone talks about his COVID and once everything's back, you know, like we're all just going to go crazy. And that, you know, the same with sports, like we're this, you know, we're, we're foaming at the mouth. Like we just, we need sports and then, you know, all this stuff comes back and I just hear about like, yeah, the ratings are down. I'm like, what are people watching that. Netflix, maybe. I don't know, but I think it, I do think it is a political statement that the ratings are down completely a political statement. So. On other sports and other sports news, MLB has announced that they're going to do play offs, any bubble situation where LA San Diego. I continue. I forget the other, I only know LA and San Diego. Oh, glove like globe life park in Arlington, Texas. Ready to get right now. Is that where they're ready to explain it? What globe life? No, I'm the renegades played at the old. Texas stadium. Texas Rangers facility. Hang on. Let me fix my mic here. We're gonna edit this. Anyway. We got. There we go. Okay. All right. So the, the play, the bubble locations have been announced for baseball. The first round series is going to be all wildcards. So basically even if you win your division and you have the best record in baseball, you do have to play in the opening round. The wildcard series are going to be the. Best of three at all, games are gonna be played at the higher seeds park. So basically. Right now as it stands, Tampa is Tampa, not Tampa. I'm sorry. Chicago white Sox have the best record in the AAL. They will host the worst. Playoff team. I should, I don't want to say worse, but the AFC playoff team. Three games in Chicago. At the least best team, at least best team. Yes. And then the ALDs both rounds. They have a best of five going to San Diego than a best of five going to Los Angeles. I think the reason they're doing this is because the ALDs is being held in national parks and the NLDS the national league is being held in the AFL parks, Arlington and Houston. So, what you're doing is basically saying, okay, this is, I guess, a way to kind of make sure that people aren't tempted to actually try to get into the stadiums. If your team is say, I'm an AFL team. What's really going to stop a Yankees fan from driving, you know, flying out here to California and go into LA or San Diego. If the Yankees get past the wildcard series, nothing really. So I'm basically now you've got a situation where we're playing. As a, as a boils down, we're playing in maybe four cities total, the, of course championship series to determine who goes to the world series. The AFL championship series. We played in San Diego, the NFL championship series when we played in Arlington. And of course the world series we played in Arlington at globe life park, which is the brand new baseball facility constructed for the Texas Rangers. Do we you're, you're more of a baseball guy. Do we care at this point? I mean, does it really? And I don't say that facetiously, but I mean, is this really all this matter now with all this hoopla and cut seasons and moving staff and delay games and double headers and all this, does it really matter? Does putting bubbles does make. The matter at all, are we just, we're just filling time. I mean, yeah, I guess you, you, you posted it in the Google doc that you want to use. So, no, I mean, are we filling time, like as a society watching this floor, Not filling time. Five cast. I think that baseball definitely wants a world series champion. They've had some black eyes over the last few years with Astros and. And red Sox. And let me tell you something right now. If the restaurant red Sox hadn't cheated in 2018. The Astros would have been stripped of their title in 2017, the fact that they, they cheated to win their title in 2018. Baseball, does it want to vacate two straight years of world series titles? And you do that on top of not having a champion this year. I honestly think that this is like, baseball's like, we really need a champion this year. We've got this far. We need to make sure we ensure a full, complete season. So that's why this is definitely. Definitely the plan going forward is to make sure no one gets no more, no more people get exposed to COVID once we get to the playoffs and yes you are right. The Dallas renegades did play at globe life park in Arlington. I really don't know why they moved out of it. The Rangers moved out of it. We walked by it when we went to WrestleMania. We did. Yeah. It's a, it's a weird, that was a weird situation. Yeah, it's cool though. I mean, they, it's kind of weird. They just like took a baseball stadium. It is like putting a football field, like. If you look at like the seating chart, like online, it's like, what is going on here? I get some weird, I mean, that's what they do with the Oakland Alameda. They used to, they don't do it any more now than Oakland Raiders are gone. But they used to you. Yeah, that was a multiuse facility. That's the last multi-use facility open. In all professional sports and now it's, it's strictly baseball. So it's not a multiuse facility anymore. It was always interesting to watch it Raiders games in the preseason and watch like the baseball fields, like, you know, they'd stop running on grass to stop running. I start running on the infield for a little bit, so it's always. It was always interesting to see that, but yeah, they're going to throw everything at globe life field in Arlington to. To make sure that there are no more interruptions. Going forward to make sure we have a champion in major league baseball. I love how I am asking this philosophical question about like filling time is this society and you really don't. Literally I'm like, I. Being on the podcast. I'm like, can we break? The fourth wall here is that what's happening. Yeah, absolutely. That's funny. I wanted to get into a little bit more detail. And then we talked to with that. Geoff about it, but about this cardboard cutout situation, what did you think. I think it's good. I think it's good exposure. And then having Al Michaels mentioned the XFL by name on an F an NFL podcast on an NFL broadcast. I think it's great exposure and it shows that. The competition between XFL and NFL is nonexistent. Like it was back in 2001 where Vince was trying to stir up some, you know, stir up some controversy. I don't think there's there's. It goes to show that there's no competition here. Like. Acknowledging one product doesn't mean, you know, one's better than the other. And I think having the rock front and center during an NFL broadcast is great publicity for the league and, and a great, you know, tip of the cap and saying, look, there's other football out there. It doesn't, it doesn't. Compete with us. It's not the USFL. It's not the XFL 1.0, it happens in the off season. So I think it's great to have that going on. You know, it's not great. Poor Danny. Yeah, I was going to talk about this too. And then I got one more thing about the rock. Ah, this was crazy. Cause you know, we had talked, I guess it was two weeks ago, you know, it came out that the rocket COVID is all family had COVID, you know, once they bought the league and. In those couple of weeks, he was, he was suffering through that, you know, and his kids and his, and his new wife of like a year. And then yeah, it came out this week. The Danny, when she found out that she liked. You know that they won the auction I jumped into, I assume her husband or herb or a partner, you know, boyfriend met Johnny and tore her calf muscle. It's crazy. Talk to me about this fall. Poor Danny. I feel bad. I feel bad. Like I just, you know, it just seems like. With the two things happening, like back to back of the COVID and the, and the, I don't know it was at her Achilles that she took her. When she, when she jumped up, she injured her leg somehow. Is there a calf. And I think her husband is a personal trainer if I'm not mistaken. So she was probably in the right set of hands when that went down. So we want to send our well wishes to her. Hopefully she's on the men. Now I understand, you know, jumping and celebrating. I've seen, I've used, I've seen a kicker at the NFL do that. When he hit a kick, he jumped and celebrated and blew out his ACL. It's like one of the worst injuries you can have as a football player. And I was like, yeah, well, You hate to see it, but at the same time, Hope. Hopefully, hopefully she's better now. Hopefully she's on the Mandan and feeling better. Well, remember, remember when Vance a walk to the ring of the Royal rumble. So Tor Tor is one quad trying to get into the ring and then stood up too quick and literally tore his other quad and could not even stand up to walk out of the ring. And I won't speculate as to the reasons why someone tears, And I won't speculate as to the reasons why someone tears, their quads that easily. their quads that easily. There's a medical reason for that. There's a medical reason for that. And we won't discuss that. And we won't discuss that. But I think my silence. But I think my silence. Speaks volumes as to how you easily tear your quads in those Speaks volumes as to how you easily tear your quads in those situations, I will watch that event, whatever Royal rumble that was. situations, I will watch that event, whatever Royal rumble that was. I watched that I was like, this is wild. I watched that I was like, this is wild. It's nice. And also the two, it was just like he cause. It's nice. And also the two, it was just like he cause. Allegedly. I've never had a collage tear, but I hear it's painful. Super painful. And Vince didn't sell it. And when a Hunter's tore his one time, he didn't sell it either. He kept going to the match. I think didn't Hunter terror is one of his quads in Saudi Arabia. One of those matches. And that's why Shawn Michaels was carrying the rest of it. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Dump that happen. I mean, the pectorals and quad muscles, when you tear those, that's normally indicative of something else you are doing. So, yeah, hopefully, and I don't think that Danny didn't tear her quads, so we don't have to worry about that. But yeah. So. They purchase the exit foul, you know, back early August. And then the deal was supposed to, you know, it was finalized like August 21st. And then they spend like, you know, crickets, no word, no, not Ben. And then this week, our end last week, it was, Oh, okay. Well, you know, the real deal finalizes on September 14th. That's when I that's, when they're really like, we all really thought it was whatever. And then we all realized that it was now really, really so expect huge news on Monday. And so I had sent you the thing I'm like, man, we're going to be set to go, you know, Mark has this week, like fricking blowing up all the news, everything we're going to get a million subscribers. Similar with the CFL, but it was, it was, I I'm tracking that now that, that the XFL Twitter, that's the thing that that's the thing to track is the number of counts and number of accounts they fall. Do you think the XFL account will follow us eventually, man, you know, it. If you can see the Twitter mentions the exit foul 2020 Twitter account from the XFL Mark gas. Yeah, you would think they would. You're definitely on their maps are like, yeah, that. XFL Mark has a Twitter account popping us again. Geez. It Dragon's followed me before on my personal line back last season. They've all they've called you on your verified account though, right? That's that's. That was the, that was the key there. Having that little blue check. Mark does somebody wonders? I love how people also, by the way question, like who's this verified blue check Mark. I would like 200 followers. Don't worry about it, sweetheart. He's got a blue check Mark. You're not the blue check. Mark police. Stop doing this. But I didn't want to talk about, I I've seen a little bit of dissension online. You know, I follow a lot of extra belt riders. I follow a lot of XFL fans. With, with the lack of news. And I know this is a minority, but it's the vocal minority, almost resentful about the rock. They see them announcing like the new under Armour shoes and the Rock's got this new thing and they've got like all this new staff. And so honestly I've seen, like, I. I haven't talked to you a lot about this, but like, people are like, Oh, the rock she's too busy. Like they shouldn't, he shouldn't even bought the exit value. I wasn't gonna do anything with it. I mean, obviously that's dumb, but what do you think about that? The rock is not going to be like a commissioner of the XFL. People need to realize that he's not gonna, he's not gonna run the thing. Like he bought it. It doesn't mean he's going to run it. I mean, he's not been so ma'am. McMahon owns the WB and he runs it, but that's because. He's running. I ran it for 40 years. It's not a situation where the Rock's gonna run the XFL. He's going to hire people to do that for him. And then have his input every once in a while that that's maybe like five hours a week. Where he's like on a conference call with someone. It's not like you spending 40 hours a week. Doing just XFL stuff. So the concern that the rock is going to run this thing into the ground or mismanage it is, is ms. Founded to say the least, and everyone just needs to calm down, take a step back and realize. That the rock is going to hire someone like Oliver luck. Not all the luck himself, but someone like that to run the thing. So everyone's. I mean the rock has people, you know? Yeah. Like the rocks, not doing his social media. I mean, the Rock's got people, there are people that do these things. Make $10 million a picture up front. You can hire people to do things for you. Either rocks. Not yet. We're, we're fine. But I did see that this week I saw a little bit of like, you know, well, they just shouldn't even be, shouldn't even have bought it. So I just wanted to put that dumb rumor dressed. That is dumb. And stop it and wear a mask, please. I beg of you. And if you want a mask XFL show.com/march and of course, radar podcast. What's the address for that? Again, ratethispodcast.com/XFL right? The podcast. I think we should pick five people who ran our podcasts and send them free masks. s are of cloth masks. Your choice. We're going to comp you for writing our podcast at that website. Again, want to thank you for listening this week? Four regions and I'm Paul Sanchez. This is our cast. Oh. And shout out to Geoff Geoff. $5. Just $5. Last name, we just call Geoff Magliocchetti. We appreciate your time. Sorry we didn't. Thank you again. We've thought thanks you twice. Now. We're thinking you three times for dropping in. I was a little bit of a challenge to get him here because of his schedule. He's been busy covering the Liberty. Now the Liberty season's over. Now he's got some free time and he's going back to covering the jets and giants for his, his, his, his online presence. So anyway, shout out to Geoff Magliocchetti, dropping in and talking to the guardians will definitely have him on again in the future. Thanks again for checking out the XFL Markcast and we will see you next time.

XFL Markcast Episode 5 - Cardale Jones Listens to the Markcast?

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I think we should get into all that now, you know, there's thing we should talk about before we even start the podcast, and this will include this in the podcast, but before we talk to them, we'll talk about the meat and bones of what happened the expo this week, let's discuss boxy cash.com or as we like to point people to XFL show.com/merch got some new shirts up there, read you understand the principle of the SpongeBob, mocking me. Are we going to find all this in the podcast this fall, we're going to talk about this right now. So we added, we added a bunch of new shirts to the store. I'm really proud. We have a we'll we'll get into that, the Cardale Jones one, but we have the beer snake period, which I like, which is awesome. We have a hashtag fire Vince shirt, which we will talk about in a second.

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Okay. And then and then today I added the SpongeBob mocking type I listened to the XFL Markcast shirt where it's like a capital and then lower and then capital. And I don't understand how it works. I just always think the text looks funny and Paul sends it to me a lot. Well, here's what happens. I think Reid does this to irritate me. Cause he knows, he knows, I know that he doesn't know how to use it. Right. So he just does it just to like, no, I really don't. I think it isn't it just a mock people. Yeah. It's just like, you know, like for example, yesterday, the Yankees lost, well, I mean, Tuesday, the Yankees lost, so someone could go on Twitter and say, I know the Yankees are gonna win today. And when they lose, you respond with are know, the Yankees are gonna win today.

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Okay. That's how you use it. Okay. So I just use it as like making fun of people. I was thinking about the way you used it and you could basically use it. Like if someone asks you, do you listen to the XFL Markcast and you can respond with giving you. Okay. It works. So I just thought of that right now. Okay. I'm going to you credit. I'm sorry. I apologize. Make this a time that I'm going to apologize to me. The only time on this podcast, I'm going to apologize to you, but these shirts are really cool. Especially beer snake and hashtag fire Vince log-on xFLshow.com/merch to grab those things. And, and we're gonna start giving away coupons right here on the XFL Markcast for subscribing and rating, because we really want to boost our numbers. Please do so we appreciate it. And we appreciate you. And I swear it. So rate this podcast.com/xfl. We got the custom URL. It's a great site. I told you I would make one for your other podcasts, you know, wheelhouse and whatever else, the one you hate, but nobody I'm serious ratethispodcast.com/xfl,

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Whatever. If you're on an iPhone and Android, the desktop, a laptop, whatever, it, it knows where you're at. And so it shows you the appropriate, you know like if you're on an iPhone that would show you Apple podcasts or whatever, and it's really easy, but yeah, please like a review and subscribe to the podcast. It'd be great. Really trying to get those numbers up. We've gotten a lot of great feedback on Twitter and YouTube, really trying to get that Apple podcast is kind of the main one we're trying to work on. But you know, we like the Android love to,

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You were bringing up some people that had some podcasts that were ranked above us, like young King, 95, who is young.

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Yeah. If you go on the Apple podcast store right now, it's kinda, it's kinda sad and you search XFL and there's not that many new XFL podcasts. So we really need to get those numbers up.

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So before we even started talking about XFL, something just dropped in my lap before what?

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Oh, well I was going okay, then preface. Yes, you can preface my preface. So please go. I want to see what dropped in your lap.

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It's something that's dropped in my lap right now, before we started recording. And since we're talking about hashtag fire events, the shirt you can buy now on XFL show.com/march, you gotta plug this site every single time. A 60 professional wrestlers lawsuits were thrown out by a judge in Connecticut. Some of the, some of the people that were involved in this lawsuit were the, the estate of Jimmy Superfly, Snoopy of course, a road warrior animal Paul Orndorff and the estate of King Kong Bundy. Of course, these wrestlers were claiming that they're, they weren't being taken care of because their injuries and the cause the, you know, concussions and the, the head issues. So basically the judge, Vanessa Bryant throughout the lawsuit saying many of the claims are frivolous or filed after the state statute of limitations expired. Now, what are your thoughts on this?

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Well, we got a lot of Vince news today. We got a lot of Vince stuff to go through, but yeah,

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You don't want to talk about this at all then

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I, I think you know, Vince is, is God kind of a dirty past.

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Yeah, I agree.

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You know, I think as we'll get into later in the show with, with the Twitch controversy and the, with the you know the Twitch controversy and then him in the Forbes 400, there's a lot of Vince news today, but I think what do you think? I mean, I think that Vince has kinda got whatever contracts you're signing with Vince. I think he's got to kind of lock down there. Yeah.

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He's found a way to basically, and I mean, we've been critics of this for, for a while now. He's been found a way to screw talent over for about 40 years now. No insurance no, you know your employees, but you're not really employees. It's just, it's, it's, it's all because he's trying to skirt the IRS and the things you notice, the things, you know, that the talent goes through with the money they're paid, like they had to pay for their own planes and their rental cars and their hotel rooms. You know, you, you, you have a developmental deal and you're like, Oh, I get a quarter million dollars a year for developmental, but after taxes, then you got about one 60 and then you've got road traveling costs. And it just, at the end of the day, like you're only really walking probably away with maybe 75 grand after all those costs.

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I don't work for that. I mean, that's like five nights a week for that 70 grand. I mean, people would say, Oh, $70,000. That's I mean, but that's on the road 300 nights a year, you know, not co you know, covert time, obviously.

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Yeah. And that's, that's even including talking about like, you're, that's a developmental, basic developmental deal. That means you're not going to sell many shirts if you're on a developmental deal. So we don't have the option of, you know, merge percentages. And even the merchant percentages are bad. So this is, this is standard operating procedure for the WWE. And I really, I think it's going to come down to a point in cm, punk, Twitter, this, I saw it from my other account because he blocked my verified account that he said, Hey, talent. He basically said, Hey talent, what are they going to do? If you all stay on Twitch and cameo, are they going to really fire you all? He's got a point.

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Yeah. And that was kind of one of the main stories I wanted to talk about. And I guess we can lead into this before we get into the XFL stuff. Is this whole, you know, this week or Vince said basically like wrestlers, you know, anyone under WWE contracts are not able to use, you know, Twitch and cameo and all these other sites where, you know, they do make a substantial amount of money. Right. You know especially, you know, like Xavier woods and all of them with their YouTube channel with the up, up, down, down, you know, they have a million plus subscribers, but, you know, and it's tricky because they're using, you know, it's their hard work, but it's like the WWE owns the name. So, you know, if biggie wants to go on and do what, remember it's like, Edwin, what's his name

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At Twan or something like that. Yeah,

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No, everyone wants to have, you know, biggie on cameo or biggie on Twitch or biggie on whatever, you know, they don't want at Twan Edwin or whatever his name is. And so it's, it's in the sticky point where these wrestlers and these talent are using, you know, their blood, sweat, and tears to kind of make you know, make a name for themselves. But, you know, David that'd be is like, why we, you know, we own that. So you can't use that. So that's, that was a huge controversy. You know, we were talking about that with Dutch Minitel on Twitter, too, where he was basically saying, you know, I viewed it as, Hey, you kind of gotta bend over and take it. And I don't think that that's, you know, if you're someone like Dutch and you're out of the system and you've been through it, I think I would like to see people like that use their leverage and clout to help people as opposed to just saying, well, that's just the way it is. And you signed a contract. So

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Yeah. I mean, I think what this is, is a power play to have Vince dip his foot into your cameo and Twitch money. That's what I think this is, is because, you know, like he doesn't want you going out and making your own merge and he doesn't want you to cause that I think that would solve a lot of problems. You could pay someone to 50 a year and have them incur all the costs, but let them sell their own merchandise. They're paying for a graphic designer to design their own shirts, let them sell their own merge. Then that would make them money. The point is, is like the talent feels like they need to make more money. And I agree with that because they're incurring a lot of costs. I feel like this is a play for WWE to, based on the statement that they gave in response to this, getting out. They said they I'm paraphrasing again. They basically said they want to do have something where they partnered with the WWE basically go through corporate, have corporate WWE and cameo get together and then WW can dip into that too. So it's just another way for Vince to make money. And honestly, I I'm disgusted by it, but at the same time, if you want to stop it, give them health insurance and make them employees for their costs.

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Well, and they were saying, yeah, but they want to basically have their own, like, be able to host their own, not even through cameo to be able to host their own like virtual events. And someone was saying that one wrestler did it. And it was like, you know, 200 bucks and they got five minutes or something. I mean, you know, but I think, yeah, they want to be able to launch their own thing. And as you know, we've seen in the past when they've tried to do, you know, like it's like when WWE joined Twitter and it was like hashtags on everything for like six months before they finally, you know, then they make it like uncool and then people go back to what they did the first time. Well, if you remember

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Correctly, back before when social media started coming out, like my space and stuff, WWE, WWE refuse to allow their talent to get on social media sites. This was a true thing that they would not allow talent to have a MySpace account. They opened it up because they realized that, you know, that just, that that's an effective form of marketing. And so is this, they just want to have access to dip into the funds. And it's just another disgusting business tactic. And I, I'm not gonna pull any punches here. I'm just, I'm over this event stuff. I really am.

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I mean, you know, the, the whole idea of Vince's whole thing, you know, with the XFL and with Debbie, Debbie is always, you know, go out, grab the brass ring, do you know, like really make yourself a talent, you know? And you look back at someone like Zack rider, you know, he was one of the first, they had his YouTube, well of this. I, I know we've met Zach riser and mixed opinions, but you know, I remember back years ago he had his YouTube channel member and he had like, his cousin would come on and he had like this small, his dad. Yeah. Zach rather his dad, but he was like this whole, he built this whole YouTube channel and he would get, you know, a million views on his videos. And then what did WWE do with all this new Oh, Hey, Zach riders really popular people like him. They brought it back and they fed them to cane bury them, you know, Oh, we're going to partner him with John Sienna. It's like, no, like Cain beat the crap out of them. And then, then that was it. And that's what he got for.

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He was basically a bullet shield for John Siena.

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So when you got for six months with trying to grab the brass ring, his own was he got buried and forgotten about, you know, I mean,

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Well, I mean, let's be honest. Vince says he wants people to grab the brass ring, but he won't allow you to grab the brass ring. If he doesn't think you can can't you can handle the brass ring, like CSRO, same guy. I know you're not a fan, but he was over, he was mega over RW seven mega over and that's. And that rumor is that that's, that's part of why this is going into effect because Bruce had his wife has the I think it's a bang energy or some kind of a third party corporate sponsorship deal. This is just, this is really messy. And it just, it seems that Vince is again out of touch. And honestly, there's, there's a way to reform the entire corporate structure. But I think the events and the board is looking at the short end of it and going, we want the money. Now we want all the money. We, you know, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the idea that they can just change their names to their real names. And then there's no problems. That's not in the contract that says they won't own your likeness. That means your real name right now. You're stuck. You're screwed. Yeah.

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Ask Cody Rhodes. How all that went over.

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Well, he can use it. He doesn't want to use it now, but he couldn't for awhile. Right. He couldn't for a while, but he can legally use his, the road's name, but he doesn't want to,

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Well, I wouldn't, I mean, it's, I mean, for anyone that doesn't know, you know, Cody Rhodes, his dad dusty Rhodes, he a famous wrestler, Cody Rhodes wrestle. That's his real name. And when he left and went and started his own wrestling promotion, WW basically said, yeah, we own Cody Rhodes, even though that's his, you know,

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Well, his real name is Cody Runels, but,

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But that's his, I mean,

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Yeah, there is a case to be made that he's portrayed that character Cody Rhodes for his entire life. Because I mean, even when you're dusty his kid, you're not in the business. And your name was Cody, you're basically Cody Rhodes. So you've been Cody Rhodes, despite your birth certificate, government name being Cody rentals. You've been Cody Rhodes since you came out the womb and that's that. So there's a case to be made that he'd go to a judge and be like, look, look at my dad. And the fact that Vince didn't really like dusty, he didn't know. He didn't like dusty. We know this because the polka dot gimmick was a, it was a rib. And guess what? Dusty got it over because dusty, dusty was a genius. I'm still a huge mega fan of what dusty brought to the business. I know that sometimes he lost touch, but ultimately like he was at the end of the day, he was a really smart, sharp guy when it came to promos, especially. But yeah, he was a good thing needed to that lot. So what are Vince needs to do

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Well? So before we get into everything, I have been chomping at the bit for this, for the better part of that, like seven days. Now you want to come in here and talk about all this wrestling talk. So we at the XFL, Markcast have our very own first celebrity endorsement. What say you, wow, we do. We do. And so I like you want to get into all this other stuff. So we have our very first, it came into my inbox and I'm going to first, I think we should play it. I'm going to try to play it out. You know, I'm not the biggest zoom expert here, but we're going to try to play it and then we'll give the backstory. So I'm going to share my screen. I'm going to play this and I want to get your feedback before we start. I want to point out that you kind of made fun of my equipment and my equipment would be able to play as well without any issue.

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Alright, we're going to sit here. So we're going to share a screen. Are you ready? Fall? Yeah, I'm ready. What's up, man is Cardale jealous. Hey man, I just want to say congrats on getting the XFL. Markcast taken off, man. Take it easy now I'm dude. Try not to hurt yourself any more. Thank you for being a fan of mine. Definitely my time and XFL I'm hopefully I don't know. We'll see the thing come back around next season. So beloved to the XFL Markcast has taken off, man, take it easy. Do have a good one.

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Ah, wow. Wow. I just reveled in that Cardale Jones promoting the Markcast. We got it. And if you want to go the XFL shop or XFL show.com/merch, we have an official XFL Markcast Cardale Jones listens to the Markcast shirt available right now. You know what people would call this? Right? What? So to give a little backstory. So we said last week on the show I found I was looking online. I said, Hey, Paul Cardale Jones, former DC defender's quarterback. He is available on cameo. It's like 40 bucks. I said, I think we should give him a Fiat. We batted around a couple ideas. And we said, Hey, let's see if we can get Cardale Jones to do a plug for the Marc cast. And so I reached out to Cardale and I, and, and I filled out the thing. And I'm trying to look on here to see normally on cameo they say, Hey, you know, take you three or four days, whatever.

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They'll send it to you. How long do you think it took Cardale Jones? From the time that I submitted my request to cameo to to have the cameo come back to me 90 minutes. Nope. Less, less an hour. It was like 26 minutes. I love it. I love it. And, and, and not that you know, I mean, I host the XFL podcast, right. I mean, it's all relative here, but I think we need to get the XFL back in session because I think Ardell Jones is Jones in for a little something to do with this spirit. Some coin, just something to do. I'm not saying he needs to coin. I mean, I'm sure Cardale is fine, but I'm just saying like you do you have my, my, that have some energy that he's looking to let out on the field. And I mean, this is, this is all of this was all fine to me.

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And you know, Brandon silvers is my QB, you know, I got, I got the signed shirt, so it's all it's all up. But but yeah, so Cardale Jones official Markcast army. And I would like to think of Cardale Jones now as the patron Saint of the Markcast, I'm thinking of shirts to make for that. So yeah, you said you wanted to see the original cameo. I would love to see the original cameo. Okay. I think our, our thinking our viewers or listeners would love to hear what you actually asked him to say. Okay. So let's play it again. I got that one up here. Okay. So here's the original version that came from Cardale Jones via cameo.com.

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Markcast. What's up man. It's Cardale Jones. Hey man. Just want to say congrats on getting that cash taken off, man, and take it easy now and do try not to hurt yourself anymore. And thank you for being a fan of mine. Definitely my time in the XFL. Hopefully I don't know. We will see the thing come back around next season. So good luck to that. Good luck to recovery man. And take it easy dude on that leg.

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And so here again is the official Cardale Jones XFL Markcast. And I want to start the show at least next week, but I think every week for awhile, I mean, I think we should start the show with this with this plug what's on that

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As Cardale jealous. Hey man, I just want to say congrats on getting the XFL Markcast taken off, man, and take it easy now and do, try not to hurt yourself anymore. Thank you for being a fan of mine and definitely my time in the XFL. I'm hopefully, I don't know. We'll see the thing come back around next season. So good luck to the XFL Markcast taken off, man, take it easy, dude. Have a good one.

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And so my challenge to Cardale Jones is, and this is a true challenge and I haven't ran this by you yet. Cardale, I'm going to, we're going to tag him on, obviously on Twitter, we're going to blow this up. If Cardale Jones sends me a PO box, whatever, I mean, I'm not trying to be some crazy fan, but if he sends me a PO box, I will mail him a Cardale Jones listens to the Markcast and if he posts a photo with it, I'm going to donate a hundred dollars to a charity of his choosing and I'm a hundred dollars. I will match your, I will match your a hundred. Let's just let's do it even two 50, one 25, a piece I'm in I'm in two 52, your charity of your choice. Of course we're not making that much revenue on the podcast. We've got, we've got a spare, a budget a little bit, but we're going to donate two 50 to Cardale's charity of choice, whatever it is again, if he follows reads and reads instructions, Cardale Jones, you just send me a PO box, whatever it could be an office building, and I'll send you a shirt, I get a photo with you wearing the shirt. We'll we'll post it on the store. We'll post it on the podcast. Two 50 to a charity of your choosing. And that's a, that's a promise from the XFL Markcast.

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Yes, I was. I was surprised that Cardale didn't make at least a practice squad team or the NFL.

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Yeah, well, that's it. That's kind of the big news today that we're talking about is a, is all the you know, the, the signings and cuts and near misses. And man, it was crazy the other day on Twitter, I was trying to follow all the different XFL news writers, you know, from the news hub and newsroom and XFL press, all the guys just crazy covering all the news. Greg parks, famously PW torch. I got him following him now keeping us up to date on all the, all the player transactions.

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Of course, PW torch. You would do that cause you're a big Wade. You're a big Wade Mark. So yeah,

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I tweeted at Greg. I said, what do you think it would take for Wade Keller to do a VIP XFL, Catherine? He was basically like in your dreams. And I had like, it was the fat kid for bad say on that where he's like, fine sounded like Santa isn't real. And he's just crying. That was the, that was a gift. I plus it back. I was happy about that.

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You just felt like he had ate all your chocolates on your advent calendar at that point, right? Yeah. That's totally. That's what it was

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When you weigh out with Billy, Bob gets drug, it needs all that. Yeah, that's totally. Yeah. I was like, well I didn't see as up front. Yeah, you're absolutely right. What did you think you know, fall when you're, you're a bigger NFL fan even the night, what, what were you thinking about kind of all the, all the transactions and everything going on?

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Well, it's, it's becoming abundantly clear that the Los Angeles chargers, which I still have a hard time accepting and the Carolina Panthers are definite fans of XFL players because on their active rosters, they each have two players from the XFL of course, Carolina has PJ Walker and Colin Thompson and they did end up cutting cam Phillips, the wide receiver from the rough necks. But it seems like Carolina went a little bit heavy with XFL tout, which we'd like to see that's the whole, I feel like that was more of the whole point of the XFL was kind of to feel like it like a developmental league or maybe somewhere people talent that wasn't quite as NFL ready, could go and sharpen their skills and maybe get a job. So yeah, we want to congratulate Colin Thompson, Don Donald Parr, ham, PJ Walker and storm North. And that's a great name storm Norton. I love that name

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And the Parham's a beast man. When I saw him play the dudes like 21, like 74 or something like he's East crazy for looking at the height stats on domino, not seven for that Dean's a giant do, could be in speaking that WWE Donald par I'm, he's got a future in the WWE. If it doesn't work out for him in the, in the playing football,

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He's six, eight, that's like standard tight end,

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The install, his he's got the arm span. He's got the arm span

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From Stetson university. Wow. my big question,

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Big picture from all this is, you know, there was like 15 players overall that came on and then, you know, they were on the practice squad. I mean, what did we think like big picture did the accident felt work? Was it the success five weeks? We got this many players on it. I mean, you can be honest if you say no,

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I think it did work. I mean the mere fact that it was a, an entity that someone wanted to buy someone with business acumen like Danny and the rock. It did work clearly. I mean, if it didn't work, there was no point in buying all of this stuff, you know? And the fact that like you have, how many people total 13 on practice squads, 12 on practice squads, you have 12 on practice squads and then four on your active roster. I mean, crazier things have happened. I've seen, I've seen people like there was a running back in green Bay. I can't remember his name, but he was a beast. And before the season started, he was bagging groceries and they got invited to the practice squad. And then he ended up being there. They're starting running back, come like week eight or week nine.

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So any of these guys are gonna get a shot. You don't want to see a talent like Patrick Holmes and Kansas city go down. But if he does, you're going to see like a Jordan taboo come up, you know, the st. Louis quarterback come up and then, you know, not be the starter, but be there as I back up just, you know, God forbid, anything else happened, but you don't want to see a tout like Patrick bought homes, especially after signing that big, massive deal go down. So yeah, I mean, it's, it's, it's going to be interesting to see how many of these practice squad players come up, you know, again, we'll see.

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That was the biggest one to me was TAMU and him not making it. I mean, I know he's on the practice squad, but they made, again, just, I mean, there's such a talent and you know, they always talk about the NFL, you know, is there a quarterback problem and, and, and finding, you know, good guys and, you know, the personalities and the people that lead the teams and all that. And I know that he's young, but I really was surprised that he didn't. I mean, I know, again, I know he's on the practice squad, but I really thought that he cause he was one of the first ones that got snatched up right after the XFL went down. You know,

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That means, you know, that, that definitely means there was, there was definite NFL eyes on him the entire time. And I think that's that, that's what also makes XFL success is because the NFL is not playing. You can have these GMs and coaches watch the games and go, okay, maybe there's something in this kid that we'd like to see and we could bring him in, you know, for, for a training camp. And if there's something there in training camp that we can, it's, it's little risk for an NFL team to watch someone else work out and play in game scenarios without spending a dime. That's, that's the, that's the takeaway from this. So,

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And I don't know, I probably didn't save it onto the, onto our list of things to talk about. And that's my bad, there was a story that came out this week and he was talking about someone tweeted the different, it was like the MFL and the different Scouts that were watching, like the practice squads. And they had listed like the XFL as like one of the ones I had written in the tweet like, Hey, like there's also XFL Scouts here. And there was all this controversy online talking about, well, are there other, you know, what's going on? Are there XFL Scouts? And Greg parks talked a lot about it on his Twitter. And I think the idea was that maybe there's some guys that, that had been on the accident foul that they're kind of just kind of watching the calls with everybody else in anticipation of getting brought back on, because obviously right now, no one really is employed by the XFL, but of course, like speculation went out, Oh my gosh, it must mean that they have all these people signed.

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And you know, like we said before, with all the coaches and, you know, supposedly everybody last week was going to find out or two weeks ago, all the coaches were going to find out and, you know, literally nothing's come from it. But it's interesting, you know, I mean, once you're, once you're in the game, I think you want to be in the game. And so a lot of these guys who would make sense that they would be keeping an eye out for talent, you know, and using connections, they had to watch, you know, tape and stuff.

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Did, did, did I read that right? That some of the players or some of the coaches or some of the employees went private about their social media apps? Was I reading that correctly or was that

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I don't know which article that is.

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Okay. Maybe I'm reading something that was old. I think it was posted on one of the Facebook boards by a van friend of the show van. Maybe he posted something about that where these, some of these people were going private and being really secretive about, well,

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Has it been a lot of time? Yeah. I mean, that was Van's hypothesis. Was that a lot of the teams and players know if you're looking to get back in the league right now, you'd probably just shut your mouth and not be out doing stuff you shouldn't be doing. You know, if you were someone who feels like no, one's heard anything from like any of this yellow guy, since all this went down in April, except for a couple of interviews. I mean, I know that I think news hub, I was going to listen. I haven't listened to their episode this week yet, but I know that they had an interview with the dragons the XFL dragons kicker. And I know that there is obviously some players coming out and doing the interviews, but for the most part, like the support staff and everything, they're not doing too much chatting.

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So we, we discussed it recently about a new commissioner for the XFL. And we talked in depth about Jeffrey Pollock, but there were some other names that were thrown out there.

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Yeah. Yeah. Did you have a chance to look at this article?

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I did. And I think bill Polian is a little bit too old possibly for this. I know he did. Co-Found the Alliance of American football, the AAF which was more of a disaster, the main XFL for being completely honest. But I think he's still too old for this kind of like, like a Jeffrey Pollock is younger and bill Polian has been around. I mean, he can't argue his experience. He's, you know, he was the general manager of the Buffalo bills during their, during their run where they went to four straight Superbowls and lost. So he clearly, you know, he clearly understands game of football, but that was 40. It was 30 years ago. I'm sorry. 30 years ago, he was the general manager of the bills and you don't get a general manager job being, well, now you're doing baseball, but in football back in those days, you didn't just walk in as a 35 year old kid and get a general manager gig. You had to be like at least 45 50. So now you have to wonder, like, he's gotta be 75 80 now. So there's just, I don't see bill Polian being a good fit in honestly Doug Wally, I'm kind of familiar with he was also a general manager of the Buffalo bills. It seems like a lot of general managers for the Buffalo bills are being thrown up as names for this.

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Well, and this was, I was going to play Jai Jai Noakes is that I see him on Twitter all the time, trying to, you know, it's one of those things where you see the names and then just try to say them out loud, but a great article from news hub you know, really doing a good job. I tell the writers and Mike Mitchell and everybody else I go, you guys are doing God's work to give us content to talk about. Cause you know that I'm not, I'm not doing that, that research. So I, I, you know, God, God bless him for for doing this and putting together this I guess at the expo news talking about the next commissioner of the XFL, it was a good, a good read,

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But of course John McKay jr. Was also listed in their article here. And I don't know if you want anybody tied to XFL 1.0, I don't think you want that. So, I mean, I don't think there's any there's any other choice by Jeffrey Pollock here. And I've I've I said that before he was already involved in ex XFL 2.0, so it's probably best to just stick with what's works because it did work. It did work

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Without, you know, and, and like I said, you know, my knowledge of upper management and in a lot of these football leagues is, is a little sparse. I just, as a fan and as someone you know, a fan of the XML, what are you looking for? And in whoever they bring in, whether some traits or whether some, you know, what, what do you want to see with someone that's the next commissioner of this league?

(31:36):

What do I want to see? I want to see them take what they did. Right? I don't think they did much that was wrong. I mean, other than, other than I think the guardians played in the wrong stadium, I think that was a bad choice. When you have Seattle playing in century link and they can sell that thing out, pretty much, we have st. Louis playing in the dome and they can sell that thing out because they don't have an NFL team anymore. It really didn't make much sense to put, for example, D C being at ADI field was perfect. It was a way to cater to the soccer crowd. You also had LA playing at dignity, health, sports park, whatever they're calling it this year where the galaxy play and the LA charters played last season because LA charters are of course moving into Sophie stadium, which by the way, if you haven't checked out the video from Sophie stadium where WrestleMania 36 37, it's going to be sick, man. If they even hold the WrestleMania, wow.

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Dorothy was asking you about that. Cause she goes, cause I think were talking about something came up about so fine. I can't remember what we were talking about. And she goes, well, you said on the Markcast, you were not going to give you this money anymore. And I said, I know, and I haven't. And, but you know, so far, so I'm like, well maybe if maybe I'll get like a third party ticket from someone and then give them my money. Right? So it's like two degrees. Cause I do think we got to check it out. If, if, if media is it's so far

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And there's also that, I mean, when we went to new Orleans, some of the best shows we went to were shows that WW was running impact. Wrestling show was great. And mainly that's because we were belligerent drunk people, but it was a fun, fun time at the impact wrestling show in new Orleans. And that was something that Lino pro wrestling guerrilla is set up back here in LA it's their market like the pro wrestling guerrilla show. Whoever, you know, whoever's there that show's going to be loaded with surprises when, when WrestleMania comes here. So hoping praying that everyone can wear a mask so we can get back to life. Please don't make this political anymore. I just want, I just want to eat and go to movie theaters, kind of getting upset

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Mass. You know, you could get some good masks.

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Well, I know we're the GM of the Washington nationals didn't get a mass was at the nationals. Yeah, it was the national,

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Well, I want to talk about that too. I was going to plug XFL, show.com/emerge. We've got a awesome, we've got a white and black Gator mass. I have mine on the border. I'm so excited. My black one I'll wear it everywhere. I don't care. I'm a wedding videographer. I just need some black. It's no worse than the stupid bandana I'm wearing now. And then we have a white like, you know, like a mask. So we have, you know, a mask mask and then we have a white and the black Gator mask and they're there they're really, really look nice. So I'm very, very excited to have that, but that is a serious if you need a mask and you want something that school to wear we have that

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Order one there. Why not?

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When they talking about this fricking MLB thing, I see this on Twitter. I see this from your account for throwing players out of there throwing GMs out of the game. What is going on here at Paul

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For not wearing a mask? Okay. This is the problem with no fans being in the ballpark is if there was fans in the ballpark, they could, you know, yell and, and drowned out a a GM running his mouth about how terrible the umpires are. I've always felt that major league umpires end up being on the wrong side of making the game about them. And Joe West is a, is a definite one that sticks out for me that makes the game about him. Unhealed Hernandez is also one of them. I don't even know why OD Hill has a job still. He is that, that daft, if I could say it as nicely as possible. So Joe West, apparently Mike Rizzo from the nationals, the GM there, wasn't wearing a mask and said some unflattering things about the officiating and Joe West threw him out of the game. It was, I don't know what happened. Wow. Somebody is getting kicked out under Wendell stats. See somebody in the upper deck. It was a hundred step. But at the same time, Joe West is the chief crew and he is the president of the MLB umpires association. And he was like, we're going to get security. And we're going to get you removed. You're talking about the GM of the nationals in Washington. And you want them thrown out when he was sitting,

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Not like he had, it was like the press boxes to himself. Like,

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What are you, you know, are you that worried about it? And he said, not wearing a mask, bro. He was by himself, one, two. You know what? The real reason he was ejected was because he was calling out the nonsense. That was probably going on in the field. We all have issues with our buyers. They're there, they're human and they make a lot of mistakes. They never, the empire is different on their mistakes. And it's, it's you get fined if you criticize empires and every in referees, every single sport league, if you criticize officials publicly, you're getting fine. So the empire is almost have this immunity where they can just make mistakes, double down on them and then never, never like get punished for what they do.

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Could you imagine them trying to throw a Vince Cirque man out of an XFL game for that?

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Having the mask that'd be great. That would be amazing. I could see that in the fire. Oh, Vince isn't on the Forbes 400 anymore. I saw. Yeah.

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Yeah. That was the other thing I wanted to talk about. That that made me laugh. I mean, we famously have a hashtag fire venture on the store, but that, that was great. And I will never, and even people, the comments in the article, I will never understand why he didn't just drive this XFL thing up to the day I die. I'll never understand why he didn't just furlough all this, but they said, yeah, basically like all the, you know, the COVID and canceling all the events. And then with the you know, the XFL and the money he put into that and, and it dropped him. They said he was one of top, like top 10 notable billionaires that didn't make the list.

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And he was one of them. But at the same time, like Mick Foley pointed it out because the traveling costs have gone down and everything for production, the WWE had one of the most profitable quarters in history. So I don't understand how this correlates, because if, if the WB is making, I understand that it's not a sole proprietorship, it's a publicly traded company, but if the WB is profitable, that should drive the stock price up, therefore driving Vince, his bank account in theory. Right? Yeah.

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I mean, like I said, I just think, and we've talked about before and here, I even know the market, the news have talked about it, where if, you know, events with it, just like put on hold and maybe we could have done something in October or something then, you know, finish up the league. But that it was, it was such a harsh, just you know, shut down and everything. And I'll never, as long as I go, I'll never understand what the deal was.

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Well, I think it was just a hard shutdown of league because he, might've not wanted to play you know, pay all of her luck money. Maybe that was a situation I don't, I don't, you know, I couldn't tell you

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My scoring scoring me as my ex-girlfriend online posting photos of the ESPN, ESP at the interview we did last week. Yeah. But what's been still owned on here. I was trying to pull up the article 400 richest. He's a billionaire, just not a top 400 billion. There must be a tough, must be a tough flight. Right,

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Man. And I think he's going to lose a lot of sleep at night for not being a Forbes 400 or whatever it is, billionaire, but he's still a billionaire. I mean, I would definitely, well, I wouldn't trade places with him because, you know, we've had our criticisms of him, but I would definitely trade bank accounts with them.

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And he spent, you know, well, this is according to the article, you know, 200 billion or 200 million unbelief. And that said that the live event slid 30% in the first seven months of the year. But also that's just as WWE a socked, like the last part of the it's just the decline anyway, let alone have COVID. But just like, you know, just, just how poor the product's been lately. So maybe Vince was better off getting out of the XFL and focusing on,

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You know, I mean, we've, we've discussed, you know, privately and maybe publicly that he's kind of lost touch with the Breslin business. There's a lot of things where, for example, when he saw the Matt Hardy and a Bray Wyatt cinematic match, he was like, I don't get this. And everybody was like, this is a, this is a great, this is amazing. And Vince is like, if this is what's what's happening now, I'm out of touch. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are out of touch. So, I mean, it comes down to a point where maybe Vince just should maybe step away so we can feel a little bit cleaner about attending WWE events and stuff. Yeah, absolutely. So with that being said, I think that's going to cover everything. Is there anything you wanted to cover else besides that

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The lot again, we've got, we've got the merge side app, we've got the podcast reviews, you know, always doing that Cardale Jones, if you're listening, like I said you know, tweet with the shirt we'll get that. But you know, we're really looking for, for some more news coming out, but like I said, God bless all the XFL riders and all the sites and XFL newsroom and everybody else for really doing the Lord's work and putting some content in our hands. Cause it's you know, hopefully, I mean, what, what do you think in here you know, rocks on their mend and NFL starting, you know, obviously we're going to see, do you think the XFL is waiting to kinda like see how the first week or two go here before they make any moves? I mean, what do you, what do you think timeline wise for us having zero knowledge at all, but just kind of general, like I said, general XFL observations. Well, what do you think is coming next for the league?

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I don't think they're playing things based on how things work with NFL. I think they are operating independently thinking independently. And again, I disagree. I disagree with Chad Johnson when he said that the NFL could do a bubble, the XFL could do a bubble way easier than the NFL could. I think they're there, they're plotting their own game plan and they're being careful and they're not letting much stuff out, which is good because anytime you have anything slip out, there's always going to be critics. There's always gonna be yapping yapping miles and going, I don't know if the alien there's always going to be some criticism of anything that leaks out. So I think it's, they're playing it close to the chest and we're dying to hear more. We want to know more. We want to know what their plan is. And we want to know if we're going to get football back in 20 XFL football for that matter in 2021, because I'm not optimistic about it. If the NFL sees, if I'm being honest with you, there's too many PMs. There's too many players. I'm not optimistic, but I hope they prove me wrong.

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I got asked to be in the XFL fantasy league by this team of wedding vendors. And I was like, first off, I was like, no fantasy league NFL. And I say, first off, I'll probably destroy your league. Right. Just like horrible takes.

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Well, maybe you'll be the one person that everybody looks forward to playing. Cause you'll lose.

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Could be. But then also, I don't know if it's like, I don't know if it's making it the whole time. So I go, what the heck am I going to spend, you know, a week? I mean, we're busy, we've got the Markcast, you got your stuff. I got my stuff. Like I can't do this other thing. And then if, if the league crumbles and you know, three weeks or they ended up going on hiatus or, you know, doubling up game, I don't know. I just, to me, it just seems like a mess. Speaking of the rock and the league he did I think Bleacher report or somebody has a big post about PJ Walker and like that's what the XFL means. And that's what it means to succeed. And the rock tweeted that, you know, retweeted it and said like, that's why I bought it, man. That's why I bought it. And I tweeted at the rock. I said, let's talk more action buddy. And then I say, J K, don't beat me up. But I just make my decision.

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Did you use the verified accounts suite? The rock that

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No, I think I retweeted with my verified account though. You got to get a little extra juice on some of those,

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Those verified accounts. They send notifications to other verify that gay being, someone talked to you that has a verified account. So

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Well between their Cardale Jones, with the verify, the account, get some love on it.

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We're doing, hopefully he will do that again. Two 50 to the charity of his choice for taking a picture with the shirt that says Cardale Jones listens to the XFL. Markcast, do you worry that he's going to be upset, but with what she did with his cameo, you worry at all.

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I hope not. Again, it's all love. And like I said, you know, I host the XFL podcast. I got, you know, I mean, I, I'm not one to judge your Mark, your Mark, it's the Markcast. I'm not one that judge, God bless the guy for even taking the time, you know, sending a well wish to my brother, Mark with the broken leg and the cast. I, we're going to have to find someone else now. I didn't have time this week to look, but I want to find our next, our next

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Victim. Exactly. That's exactly what you

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Call them, but I know God bless Cardale Jones for doing that. And I really appreciate it, but yeah, we'll we'll I want to use that. I want to use that. I want the episode of this podcast to be Cardale Jones listens to the Markcast question mark. That's the name of the episode that we're naming it now again, download rate and subscribe to the podcast. We need all those ratings. We can get a, we really appreciate your listening and we'll, we'll talk to you next week right here on the XFL Markcast. So yea www.ratethispodcast.com/xfl thanks!

XFL Markcast Episode 4 - Nice Helmets, Dwayne

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You have OCD and you didn't record the video. Yeah. So we just found out about 10 minutes in the, we weren't recording the video. We had the audio for this, but for the video podcast, we, we didn't. So SpongeBob mocking no edits. Well, it's going to be, it's going to be a straight sale on now, so let's roll with it. Alright. So are we, are we, are we taking the video from here and then just keep it the audio we already recorded? I, no, we're going to go. We're going to go through what this would do it it's one story. We did one story. We talked about the Rock. We're going to start again. We're good.

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Okay. And here we go. Another week, another XFL Mark cast. I'm Paul Sanchez. Reid Johnson here. Introduce you for you. Thanks for joining us with XFL Mark cast. We're we're we're we're going to get this thing started off pretty soon here, but I just want to plug this before we get going. XFLshow.com/merch that's the site to go to there's another site that it redirects to, but the best way to find your XFL Markcast Merch is to go to XFL show.com/merch. It is Paul and Reid approved, especially you can buy a hat. You can buy a tee shirt, I think read. Did you already buy some XFL, Markcast Merch? Yeah, I was going to say, see, you know, you know, I had the pop on specifically. Paul sent it over you know, Hey, check out the site. This was a couple of days ago.

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We had a shirt and then we had a flex fit hat. And I said, I need to have my flat brim snap back. I got my cracking hat today. I'm going to tell the story again. Cause it was a good one that got cut off. My hat was supposed to come from NHL shop on Monday and I'm sitting here and I'm looking out my window and I work in my office all day and I see the mail check drive by. And I, you know, about five minutes later, I get the email notification, Hey, your, your hats been delivered. Woohoo, congratulations. And so I run out to find my front porch and it's not there. And it's like panic attack. I go out to the mailbox and I'm like, well, it wouldn't be, you know, it's like a box, but I go out to the mailbox.

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It's not there. And so I called, I had to like track down. He was trying to get like the number to the Pentagon to get the actual number to that, to the Westwood village, post office. And I called them and I was like our fricking mail carrier. I've had this happen before he's on his phone. Like he, you know, cause it's like, he just delivered it somewhere else. Right. And they're like, well, did you check your front porch? I'm like, I checked everywhere. I work from my office. I see the truck drive by every day he's playing music. He's on something anyway. So he tracked it down. He, he delivered it to the wrong house hand, delivered it back to the front porch and I got it. So I got my Seattle cracking hat today, but yeah, I've got a, I've got a black they're really cool snapbacks. And we got the XFL Mark cast. I got a black and a red bill and then I've got a Royal blue one coming to which should be pretty sick. Cause I don't have a Royal blue snapback.

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Are you, are you worried? He did something to the hat when he went to pick it up. Cause you complained, you know, like go to a diner and you're like this foods to call them to send it back. I never do that because I'm afraid. I'm afraid. Yeah.

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And so I'm going to meet my notifications. And so and you, you said before, too, that Dorothy got Dorothy got merged. We got women's merch. We got men's we've got this sick like a bomber jacket, which I think is fricking awesome. I I'm waiting to see the quality of the hats before I dive in on the jacket, but it looks, it looks like, but yeah, Dorothy got I said, Oh, we got, why is my notifications going off? I said, ah, we're leaving that. I said, I'm saying that this is what you get for sleeping. I said Hey Dorothy, we got a women's shirt. And she goes, yeah, I want a tank top. So I said, alright, so I text Paul, Hey Paul, Dorothy wants a tank top. So you add the tank top. You go, I'll do it right away. So you have the tank top. Dorothy is I'm working in the yard and watering the lawn. Dorothy's up on the deck. I go, Hey Dorothy, Paul added the tank top is a racer back tank top. Thankfully it was thankfully was, I didn't know. That

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Sounds like she kind of sounds like the dude like demanding, like unforgivable dude, the butterbeer racer big tint up. That's a mistake. Chicken kerogen can waffle fry. That's great.

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But yeah. XFL show.com/merge. It takes you to the Moxy cash, which has all your other podcast apparel on it. Right?

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All this other stuff we're doing, it's all one site. But to go specifically, we want you to specifically go to XFL show.com/merch to get redirected to just the XFL merge XFL bar cast March. That's great stuff. So starting off rate for story.

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Yeah. you know, it's, it's a goofy podcast here, but we are going to start off in a little serious note. Our, our fearless leader diagnosed with COVID-19. I know that came as a surprise. Last night I saw that come through and it's been, you know, I saw it on like CBS this morning, this morning and then whatever I was watching the news it's everywhere. So yeah. Big deal.

(05:27):

Yeah. I mean, we, we thought that we, we thought that Tom Hanks will be the face of COVID because he got an early on, but here we are, let's see, it's called COVID-19 because they found it in 2019. And here we are almost a year later, thanks to everybody. Who's been able to, you know, keep this thing going. I guess I wear a mask all the time. I'm not wearing a mask now. Cause I'm clearly a mountain house that being said now I think the Rock becomes the new face, the new celebrity face of look, you can get this and it's unfortunate. It's unfortunate. We wish his family well, keep them gonna keep them in our thoughts. And hopefully there'll be able be this thing back. And again, I, I kind of reiterate the fact that like the Rock, isn't the type of guy that you can keep coring team. Cause he's so flipping busy. And I think that might've maybe that might've done something maybe that might've helped, helped him catch it. I want to say I'm no, I don't want to, you know, I'm, I'm basically in a roundabout way, I'm complimenting his work ethic and, and saying, you know, he's a busy guy and this, this unfortunate thing might've been bound to happen to someone who is as busy as the Rock and we just wished him well, and we hope that he gets better soon. So that being said,

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Yeah, that's crazy. And I, the one thing I want you, I want to point out and we're going to get into the story about the helmets here. But, but when you see his the video, he posts on Instagram, off in the corner, you can see all the elements. And so it's a big deal.

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And that, that shows his intent to really boost, you know, really go back all in on this league and, and make sure it runs for maybe not, maybe not next year, but the year after we don't know, we don't know yet. And we're hoping to hear some news soon and, you know, read alluded to it before we started recording that maybe the reason why Danny got their helmets and then the Rock, it took Rock a little bit longer to get his helmets was because they were fighting Corona. That that's a possibility.

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Yeah, that was, I was going to say I used to listen to this Jay and Jack podcasts. They used to cover like lost and Westworld and like heroes and stuff. And they would always have the Jack would always have his crackpot theory of the week. And my crackpot theory was I just, I thought it was so weird that Danny would get her helmets back. I think it was August 13th. I was trying to look last night back at Instagram. And then, you know, the Rock had posted his like a Monday, you know, his, I was going to try to get all my dragons jerseys and like hang them from my arms, like the Rock when we came on the video and I just got bored about it. But I just thought it was weird. Like the Rock posts on Monday, Hey, just got my helmets, like so excited to do this.

(08:02):

And I thought, damn, that's so weird. You know, we were waiting on the news and we thought after the sale and this would come out and everything else. And then I know that was just kinda my theory that maybe they just put the hold. I know that he delayed the Underarmour, he just announced like some shoes today. And I know part of that was last week cause of the player protests, I'm not playing the baseball and basketball games with all the, you know, the racial tensions going on. But I thought maybe part of it had to do with the fact that you know, he's been suffering with COVID for the last two and a half, three weeks. And know maybe we just had understandably other things on his mind then promoting the XFL

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For sure. And I'm also speaking of COVID the Mariners AEs series, your beloved Seattle Mariners was postpone this week due to COVID and apparently the athletics. I don't know if they've been able to isolate contact, contact, trace the the case, but like the Mets did, the Mets were able to, they had one about a week and a half ago, the matzoh Yankees series they were able to contact, trace the Mets player and coach and test the people that they were in contact with and really like nail it down, which is categorically. I'm not normal for an organization like the New York Mets. Cause we, we always say when they goof up or when they do stupid stuff, organizationally speaking, we say, well that's so Betsy, because it just kind of goes with the territory. So the air Mariners AA series was postponed. Of course, they're going to have to make those games up. It's probably going to be those double headers, those seven Indian double headers that I do not like at all. That's the, that's the rule in baseball is like, when you have a COVID postpone doubleheader, you only play seven innings. Unless of course the score is tied, then you go extra innings, but it's kind of harsh on baseball in that. I'm not a fan of it. And people think I'm a man. It's just not,

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Well, I was going to ask about that because I was reading that too. And like I said, I don't know, you know, I know less about baseball than almost anything, but you know, when they do these double headers, I'm like, that has to be like, you know, cause I'm used to like double a Heather's back, like, okay, our niece has like T-ball and they're going to do a double header with it. You know, it's like an hour, you know, this is like MLB, you know, is that like a seven hour day? I mean, what's going on?

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That is a seven hour day. It is. Yeah, it is a lot of baseball take in and sets. That's why they, they wanted to go with a seven. Anything was because the length of the games and then they want to limit the amount of time the players are on the field, dealing with, you know, potential a covert exposure. So they, when they decided to do the double header, they decided this year to go seven innings only. But I think it was like the Mets, Yankees makeup game, one of the makeup games, they went into extra innings. So ended up being like a nine or 10 in a game anyway. And that was, that was the reason they did the whole runner on second thing was to expedite the end of the game. And I just, it hasn't been working. It has been working in terms of timing. So I don't know about baseball. We should talk about XFL unless you got another car.

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Well, yeah, I just, cause this goes back to, we just been talking about the bubble and everything and I know our good friend, Michael was telling me, you know, you know, NFL is going ahead and you guys and talking, but I mean, this just goes back to it again about, you know, bubbling or trying to keep people isolated or, you know, we're like the NBA, you know, WWE, whatever, very minimal, like again, just to have another MLB case again this week, and especially in Seattle where they said in the article, you know, like the Mariners haven't had any issues with all this year at all, except for now and whatever. And I just goes back to my point, you know, we're like 10 days away from a NFL kickoff or whatever it is. I mean, you know, just trying to figure out the whole bubble thing as it relates to.

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So I don't like, again, we've, we've reiterated numerous times. And of course Chad Johnson did say that a couple of weeks ago that there's too much money to be made in the NFL for it to not have a season. So there's you know, these things, there was a lot of enough resources to lock 32 teams down and I'm going not for, you know, 19 games. So it's going to be interesting to see what COVID does to the NFL, if they have better protocols in place than baseball did. Because I mean, to be honest with you, BA basketball started this whole thing. When Rudy go Bair from the Utah jazz, one of the press conferences started yep. C Reid's doing the gestures. Now he's all touched in the mix. Rudy, go, go bear. I thought it was a whole funny joke, still terrible, terrible. And I think that's what caused the major, like reaction that we had was that when basketball shut down and then spring training shut down, everything shut down.

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And it was just, it was a weird, surreal moment in sports history that we'll never see again in our lives. But yeah, I, I, I hope that the NFL has taken this seriously and they've got the protocols in place to really mitigate the efforts of contact tracing. And if there's so many test positive, immediately figure out who they've been in contact with and shut that, shut those people down and get it test. And hopefully, hopefully we get an NFL season, but if we don't, we're hoping we have an XFL season. And of course the XFL we've talked about numerous times here, definitely more conducive to a bubble situation where you can have eight teams and go from there. So that being said, read what's, what's the real first story for the XFL to this week.

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Okay. So, so the first one I wanted to talk about, you know all of our luck was on ESPN. They were talking about trying to get, you know, like, does there need to be a commissioner or college football? You know, we're talking to all about, you know, college football, what's going to happen with COVID and you know, it kind of felt like when you're dating their girl and then you guys break up and then like you see her online and she's like posting photos with another guy and you're like sitting at home and you're like, well, I guess I don't cause you know, no mention of the XFL at all. And it really was just kind of a dagger to the heart of a lot of XFL fans, you know, not that whatever that they would, they would talk about the XFL on there, but it was just like, all of our luck is just on to bigger and better things. And this is probably going to be the commissioner of college football, you know,

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The same time. Like I think the reason why all of our luck probably didn't discuss the XFL is that because of shade it's because of, because of the lawsuit, that's gotta be yet. I mean, I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't want to be caught on camera saying disparaging remarks about the Vincent man or the XFL if I were suing to get money out of them. So maybe his lawyer has really kind of said, don't, don't say anything, cause you're gonna cost yourself some money. I mean, you're already rich as it is, but you're gonna cost yourself a little more money. The Richard get Richard or this band never picked up.

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It just, it just felt like, it just felt like, you know, like said you just, you're your ex-girlfriend's off, you know, vacation in a Bali and you're sitting at home and you're just like, this sucks. Yeah. So

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It's interesting because you would hope that if I were all over luck and I'm not, if I were all over luck and I know that someone like the Rock has been involved in this XFL thing, I w I would seriously consider coming back.

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I don't know. But they had him, they talked with him and like such high regard on there. I mean, it was like, you know, he was a huge gap for them to get to come on, to talk about all this stuff. And you're like, wow. You know, like we, we had that, you know, and he was super involved. And I even remember, you know, he was all in, you know, with like the beer snake and chugging the beer and putting the cup in the, in the beer snake in DC. I mean, he was all in, you know, he was, he was there and on ever get this whole Vince thing. And I can't wait until the lawsuit kinda comes out because I'm just, I don't know. I think that was something really special there that they didn't need to end the way it did

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Completely completely agree. So that being said, moving on here, I guess we've had some requests to discuss the freedom football.

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We have our good friend van van, the band, the man wants us to talk about the FFL.

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I was not too familiar that there was another startup going to happen. The freedom football league. Again, you were saying it was started by Ricky Williams. Of course the Heisman trophy winner. And

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Yeah, he also came in second place and celebrity big brother.

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I know, I know you love, you like love your reality shows. I make fun of you for your reality shows. So he came in, you, you watched LeBron. Okay.

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He got smoked in the finale. Absolutely smoked I think gloss like zero, zero vote finalists totally got smoked and, and came in second place and he won like five challenges coming down. The stretch picked whoever he could pick at the end and then just totally got smoked.

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Okay. Okay. Well maybe you should, maybe you should choose better. I mean, there's no stigma to it anymore, but the Ricky Williams is a man that was known in the NFL for getting busted for pie

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Allow. So you're saying what I shouldn't say he got smoked and that was not, that was not

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Gotcha. That was, that was one of those Freudian slips that you didn't even know about. You're like, Oh, wow. I didn't even know that Ricky Williams was that guy, I think. And if I'm, if I'm not mistaken, I'll check on this and we'll get back to you in the later in the show, I think the, that marijuana is, has now been removed from the NFLs banned substances list. So you can, I, I, if I'm, if I'm, if I'm mistaken, I will correct them by the end of the show, but I'm pretty sure that that marijuana has been removed from banned substances in the NFL, which of course a lot of, a lot of football players host, you know, people that have played are done have advocated for the use of medical marijuana to help with injuries and dementia stuff and other things like that. So we'll check on that. We'll get back to you.

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So, I mean, th th the FFL is interesting and, and joking aside, you know, van wanted us to talk about this mostly because, you know, when we're talking about the XFL and expansion cities and trying to find other markets, you know, originally when the XFL picked their cities the AAF was still in the fact. And so they, you know, they tried to pick cities that were, you know, not, you know, obviously like, you know, you can't get away with like LA and whatever, but like certain, you know, they tried to pick cities that weren't you know, involved with AAF. And so now, you know, the BAF has done, you know, some of those cities could, you know, presumably in the years to come be expanded for XFL, but the, the reason why we thought it was important to talk about this is there supposedly are a bunch of FFL cities set up.

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And so the idea would be what would the XFL one to compete in? Some of these cities are not, and, and it's really weird. Like I have the list here, you know, so you have San Diego, which obviously we've talked about you know, moving the LA team, you know, maybe down to San Diego Oklahoma city Portland, which is interesting. I mean, I don't, I don't think the XFL, whatever do Portland, Austin revolution, which, and we've been talking about San Antonio for the XFL the Oakland Panthers interesting, you know, cause it talked about moving LA up there. But then some of these are weird. It's like you have like the Ohio player, it's like, just like Ohio has a team

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Players, like, like based on the seventies, funk disco band, the Ohio players, you're older than I am. So I don't know. Yeah. You keep pointing that out every single week here on the Marchesa thing, you keep pointing out that I'm the old man of the the podcast, but yeah, the Ohio players is a, I'm sure if you heard the song fire, you would know who they were,

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But there's, they're not a city. Am I down for the strong, like, just for, that has a team. Like there's no, like, you know, I just, some of these are a little weird, like you would just think, wow,

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Strong, are they named after like the recovery efforts from our hurricane?

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Yeah, I get that. But like you don't, you wouldn't have it be like what's, I don't know. I just, it just seems where it's some of these answers, they Birmingham st. Louis and then Connecticut. And so anyway, the point would be talking about some of these teams and the whole thing with this league. Anyway, I I've watched a lot of their marketing material. I don't, I think they were going to try the launch in 2020 and then a Kobe then, whatever. But, you know, I didn't hear about any of this until a couple of weeks ago when van, you know, tip me off to it. But it seems like it's really about trying to empower, you know, the players. I think there's a lot of trying to lift up the minority is the idea that you have like a bunch of old white guys owning these teams and then, you know, minority players playing, trying to give them more power. It seems like it's much more focused on that. I don't see a lot about, you know, the play on the field being different in the sort of league stuff. I, it seems like to me, like it's mostly trying to empower, you know, that like the race structure versus like the football,

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It's more about the message than it is about the bells and whistles, like the XFL adding the three point try afterward and things of that nature. So,

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Any thoughts on this? I mean, I know we're going to try to cover this more in the, in the weeks to come, but

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I think, I think any pot potential any potential football is great. I think that as long as you keep it in the, in the scope that you're not going to compete with the NFL, you're just not going to do it. It's not going to happen. And if you can make money with a football league outside the NFL, then all props to you because you know, you're never going to top top of that. I've mentioned it before. I think the problem with the 2001 XFL, because Vince really wanted to compete with the NFL, like that was a goal of his I think that any football league shouldn't want to compete with the NFL, cause it's not going anywhere. Despite, you know, despite anyone's claims, no names mentioned that their ratings are down and everything's bad and everything is terrible because they're kneeling for the Anthem. The NFL is still not going anywhere. It's a multibillion dollar businesses chat out, you're single pointed out. So I think it's, I think more football the better. And especially in this time, we're able to lock down teams if there's like an a 12 team, freedom football league. I don't know how many teams are there. There's 12,

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Like a ten one, two, three, four. Yeah.

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Again, the number of teams allows for a bubble situation. If you need to go into a bubble situation, which is why kind of disagreed with auto Cinco about 1332 teams going into a bubble, but we'll see, we'll see what happens. A update on that marijuana thing. Yeah. The latest CBA with the owners and players removed marijuana from the banned substances list. So there you go. NFL smoke weed everyday, I guess

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Ricky Williams is rolling over

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Ricky Williams. Like damn it I'm two years too early. Damned another weird story that you sent to me was the footballs not being kicker friendly. What is that?

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Yeah, the XFL football. So well this segues into also a breaking news. My from last night I have officially popped on an XFL official dragons football off of eBay. It's coming. I'm so excited. I didn't buy one during the season. And then I kind of was like, well, you know, the league is, is closed. You know, I can't justify getting the football, but I sold like this eight year old router on eBay that I had listed for like a year. Like, it's just one of those, Hey, we'll reduce it. Like every week they reduce it like 5%, 5%. So finally sold. And so I had some money in my eBay account. And so I found one on a it's coming in the mail. So hopefully by next week, I'll have my official XFL dragons the ex grip football. But yeah, so the article is that they were talking with a lot of kickers and that, you know, they put in all this research into, you know, the football and the catching and like the X on the sides and, you know, the X script and all that stuff. But I guess the way the football was where it was, you know, more narrow and long, the kickers couldn't had a hell of a time trying to get the sweet spot if the ball wasn't broken in and that they really complained about the snapping and the kicking of the XFL football, which I thought was interesting

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That makes me want to go back and like check the stats on the XL season, see how many people see how many teams and players miss field goals missed extra points after, and that kind of thing. And, and that's, that's an interesting thing. Do you think that maybe that's the reason why we saw a lot of fourth down tries?

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Well, it's interesting. It's just funny to me that they would spend this, you know, as someone you know, working where I used to work in corporate, whatever, you know, you working in news still it does seem interesting to me that they would work on this, develop this technology for a year and a half with like the cubies and you know, how are the receivers catching it and all of that. And just like, totally like not checking with the kickers and being like, Hey, what is this? You know what I mean? Doesn't that just seem like a total oversight that they would like, okay, well we can throw it in, develop all this, whatever, and then never talk to one kicker about it at all. And then end up being like, yeah, this ball totally sucks for that. Like, we can't do this at all.

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I mean, yeah, I'm looking at the stats actually. I just pulled them up right now. And Jose Cortez from the, well, I'm sorry, these are the wrong stats. I looked at the teams, I'm like, wait a second, Los Angeles, isn't named extreme.

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Are you?

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I was looking for, I was trying to find the XFL stats for this, this recent incarnation and ended up finding these stats for the 2001 season

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Segue to, I sent you that link to the, he hate me, Las Vegas, outlast Jersey.

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I saw that when I was working last night, are you going to pop on it?

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Well, it's from the same one that someone the football and I was like, Oh man, cause it's on 59, 99. They got my size. It says condition new. I mean, I think these are ones though from the rep Bay there's a site that does replicas of like all the like authentic replicas of the old jerseys. And so I think that that's what this is from, but they also have a, a fitted hat on here too. I'm thinking about getting to, so we'll see it, we'll see how the football does, but they do have a fit of Outlaws hat for 1499. So

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Fitted and it's interesting cause I don't see any stats anywhere, even on the XFL site for kicking. So I can't really make a determination on if this affected any games whatsoever. And if that was a reason why a lot, or you saw a lot of teams going for it on fourth down, you did.

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Yeah. And part of that too, was the way that the, the, like the rule went where it had to go so far. And so it's like, well, if it, and if it went past and then it was like a touchback and then it ended up back on like the 30 yard line or whatever. So I think part of that was that where they're like, well, we might as well just go for it. Cause it's going to end up being kind of the same difference anyway, but it was just funny. They were talking about that. It was just a hell of a lot to get the ball worn then to be able to kick. And they were saying like Landry Jones, a lot of interesting quotes in the article about just getting the football in. And I guess they were saying that the old XFL ball was like, how the hell of a time trying to get that ball, like work in to be able to be in good, like throwing shape out of it, out of the box.

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Makes sense. And we've talked about it before we talked about it briefly there with the freedom football league about possibly relocating teams. And apparently there has been some news things to reads reads friend van that they're, they're not gonna, they're not going to relocate teams should definitely put those relocation rumors to bed. And I disagree,

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Well, van share this article. This is from XFL brah and or the brawl network. And, you know, I read through the article when you share the, I read through it again this morning, you know, I don't know. I it's interesting to me because you know, a lot of these XFL sites right now are sharing news. There was a whole thing from news hub when they were talking about like for sure all the coaches are finding out next week, like for sure, unnamed source doesn't want to be mentioned for sure. Everyone's finding out. And I even said like, I don't really buy that. And then we didn't hear anything this week. And so now you get this thing and it's like, yeah, you can put the teams relocating the bed, you know, all, all the leases are all set with all the leagues and all that, which, you know, first off, I think only four of the venues are even covered on this, like Seattle isn't with century link, whatever, you know, we had talked before about them being cool with university of Houston.

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That is where I believe the bubble will be if they do it. That was where the championship game was going to be. But like there's no stats in this article or there's no, like, I, I tried to click these links. It goes to like air codes, you know, I just don't see a lot of facts behind this talking about the contracts being signed. Basically the article was saying that B through the bankruptcy that be leases are still being maintained in a lot of the facilities for the games, which means that if the XFL were to come back, that they would have all these, you know, they would have to keep them in the same cities, which I just don't see a lot of facts in this article. So that's where I'm at.

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Neither do I. And I think when we talked about the LA team removing, moving maybe to San Diego or somewhere else, because the over-saturation area and your friend van called and vehemently disagreed with me and I was like, Oh, okay. I think van believes that all teams are gonna stay put, but I, I think the definite team that that would move if there's going to be a move as the New York team, that is, that is one that MetLife stadium wasn't really conducive to this atmosphere where the football base in New York, they're, they're passionate about the jets and giants, but not necessarily anything else that comes into their, I know a few guardians fans here and there, but it wasn't like the fever pitched at Seattle or st. Louis had for their teams. So I, you know, I don't know if MetLife stadium is the final answer. And I was reading an article earlier where there were a lot of questions about not only the, where the guardians will play next year, but the coaching staff cause Kevin Gilbride is 69 years old is getting up there considerably. And who knows if he's going to want to come back? I mean, who

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Well, he came out of the retirement for, I think, for the XFL and, and he loved it. I mean, he was really involved in it, but yeah, they, I know that, yeah, there was a whole article about that. I saw them talking about their, you know, could the guardian

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Structure, whatever. So, and of course Danny Garcia and the athletic said there was a lot of great work that was done and they were succeeding. But I think whenever you have time to reset, I think it's important time to just reassess. And I think with the relaunch, they're going to reassess. If they keep the team in New York, maybe throw it at red bull where the red bulls play soccer, that'd be the best way to go about it. I would say we're NYC, FC plays soccer, but they play soccer at Yankee stadium. So the play to play the XFL Yankee stadium share, man, I would go, it's like Mecca for me, man. I've I've, I've been to old Yankee stadium before they tore down the chills. I still feel them at the time. All right. Moving on, moving on. Have you gotten a cameo from someone involved in the XFL? Seems like a bargain.

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So this is fun. And I haven't told you about this. This is, I want to do this as a game. Okay. And I want, I'm going to tell you what's going on and I want you to figure out how we're going to game a five S okay. So Cardale Jones, a D C defender lead quarterback. He's on cameo for like 35 40 bucks. Okay. So I want to gamify this. And so I've thought of a couple of different things. So first off we could trick him into doing a plug for the Mark cast. So we could be like, Hey, Cardel Jones, you know, my friend Mark, he broke his leg, it's in a cast, you know, can you like whatever and get him to be, and then we can cut it up and have it be like, Hey, it's Cardale Jones. You'll listen to Mark cast, whatever.

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Or I was thinking, the other thing we could do is have like code words that we each will then independently by a cameo for each other, from Cardel Jones and then play it next week on the podcast. And so it could be like butterscotch or something. And you got to get him to say, you know, like butterscotch or whatever. So I w how do you want to gamify this? I think it's, I think it's too good. It's a, he's a terrible cameo. I watched like 10 of his videos. They're so bad. And if anyone does know, cameo is like celebrities, B-list like, you know, people are on there and you can pay them.

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Yeah. Sometimes.

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Yeah. I did one for Dorothy. I did like a bachelor, like happy birthday. You did like a couple for me.

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Yeah. You did the Billy Gunn where he, you had Billy gun. Tell me to suck it. That was really nice of you read, but you also had Mark Henry do one, the world's strongest and Mark Henry do one. We congratulated me on that little thing that I have right there over my shoulder. I'll make sure you don't take no with Nichols. I haven't taken the wooden nickels since Mark Henry told me

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It was like ancient anyway. So how do we want to gamify this Cardel Jones?

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He is right. He is right though. You are a piece of work anyway. How do we want to get,

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Like, I, I liked the idea of be unintentional. Like, cause then we could start the episode every week and be like, this car. They'll tell tune. It's you're listening to Mark cast. Right. But how do you want to give him a five S

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I think, I think, you know, I think that's the best way to go about it. I don't think slipping into a hidden word would be as fun as like shopping someone up to make him sound like he's plugging the Mark House. I think that sounds, that sounds funner. And it sounds like more like fake news than anything. You know, the deep fakes are going around on the internet right now, by the way, if you've ever seen that rephase app. Now this, this is going to take deep fakes to a whole new level. Basically there's an app that you can buy and we're, we're veering off topic, but it's great. Anyway, there's an app you could buy that basically takes a picture of you and puts it on a video with someone else. So you could like basically read if you wanted to ever live out your dream of seeing in the Taylor Swift video. There you go. You can get the rephrase app and do that. Wow. So maybe, you know, maybe we slap someone's face on and say that they're listening to the workouts. I don't know. I don't know.

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So that's my marching orders. I'm going to get Cardel Jones to plug the Mark CAS unintentionally, and then we'll take him and we'll see if it works. That's my match.

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I hope, I really hope that that if we tag him and he sees it, he, you know, he'll get a kick out of it. I'm hoping that, so,

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You know what I'm saying? Like, if you're like, Hey, Cardell, like, could you, could you talk about like your time in the XFL? And I wish my friend Mark, like happy birthday, you know, he broke his leg. It's in the cast. Like if we could get him to talk about the Mark Cass,

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That's good. That's a good plan. That's a good point. So I, I was reading this thing that you sent me earlier about the, the former president of the st. Louis Battle Hawks. What's the big deal that I emoji. What?

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Oh, no. This was mostly talking about, they wanted it there again. Hey, let's put the bubble in st. Louis. Bubble's not going to st. Louis st. Louis is in a dome. They're not going to play football on a dome. They're going to Houston. If the, if Mark my words, Mark cast my words. It's a bubble happens this year. It's in Houston. I would put, I would buy a plane ticket. Now

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That's a new shirt, by the way, Mark cast my words, my words. That's a good one. See you, you, you were kind of upset that will house had a lot more margin. Nice. So now we can, now we can like expand on our tee shirt. Ideas. Mark has my words might need to throw that up on the store.

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Can we do Cardale Jones listens to the Mark guest? That would be a good one too.

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Yeah, let's do that. I'll work on that over the weekend. And we'll get, we'll potentially get some new shirts up there. Again. XML show.com/march. Sorry. I had to plug it again.

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It's an article that was talking about, you know, a president of the battle Hawks talking about the mascot. Have they were going to bring the mascot out. And then we talked about that last week, which, and we were talking about the Archie RGB Hawk, you know, the battle Hawks, which it's so funny to me that the st Louis Bell Hawks was supposed to be a helicopter. It was a battle. Hawk was a helicopter, but then I don't know if st. Louis people are what's going on, but they were like, God, God. And it's like, okay. So they took it as like the battle Hawks, like a bird. And they have like, the RGB Hawk is the bird. But like, if you watch the announcement video for the st. Louis, Bella Hawks, it's like, it's a battle Hawk. It's not a hock.

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So it was, so it was more literal in the sense of like paying homage to the, to the special forces and the fans just like, we don't care about the helicopter stuff. We're just gonna do our own thing. And that's how RGB Hawk was born. By the way. I appreciate you sending me the potential, a potential dragons, mascot, guy name, huge T dragon

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Guy. That was just the biggest, I mean, talking about marks that guy was, yeah, I had saved it in my w sometimes if I'm bored on Twitter, I'll just search my phone for like dragons photos. And that popped up then I guess Tim Apple saw that that was a dragon. And so

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You mean to tell me that you won't watch a video on YouTube, it's over four minutes long, which you'll search on Twitter for dragon stuff.

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I'll search on my phone to post on Twitter. Like, if I need Twitter content, I'll go on like my Apple phone and be like, yeah, you can search like photos, dragon, and like, it'll recognize. And that dude looked enough, like a dragon that Apple recognizes it as a dragon.

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That's great. Yeah. That's great. By the way, we got to talk about your gifts. We out there about your gift use on Twitter. I don't understand it. Well, I don't understand your gift. He is on Twitter. What do you mean on the the Twitter account? XFL Mark. Mark has Twitter account. Yeah. I don't know. You just post the random gifts sometimes. It's, I'm like, I don't know what this means.

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Oh, I try to, I try to like retweet people. I tried to blow up other people's you know, try to try to give him some love. Yeah.

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I see what you're doing. I definitely see what you're doing. We talked, we talked about last week, I think it was when, or did we talk about the week before where man was in a foul mood. And maybe there's some more news on that front that relates to the WWE that Brock Lesnar is an under contract with the WB anymore. I noticed that. But we talked about the potential of like the Rock kind of being, I don't wanna say blackballed, but kind of, sort of blackballed, maybe half blackballed. They mentioned that he did get a word, helped get a word attitude, dictionary.com though.

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[Inaudible] I thought that was great.

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Yeah. I mean, the iron Sheik is the one that popularized the phrase to begin with, but the Rock really kind of took it. And I reading stories about it earlier that iron Sheik actually blessed the Rock to use the term Gaborone and the Rock really brought it into, I mean, I used a sometimes normal discussion as part of my nomenclature. It's just like,

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It's so funny though, is that you know, the Rock is so humble that he like, even they were talking like, even back in 2014, they did a documentary with him and he's like, he always, I could siren shake, you know, it's always, it's just, it's so interesting that something that's so ingrained in him and that he could tell I'd be like, Oh yeah, that was, that was all me. Like, that was my thing is like, no, no, no, no, no. Like the iron Sheik was the one. Like, I was just the one that used that. And you know, just made it, made it really popular, but that's the same with SmackDown. You know, he, I mean, he got smacked down, put into vernacular too. I mean, they made a whole, you know, they made a whole show around it, you know, in the WB.

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And it really goes to show like you know, that's something that intellectual property goes a long way. And now the Rock came out with SmackDown and that was basically his, and he was worked for them to be, so the W's like, well, when your employee, for us, any intellectual property, you create belongs to us. Therefore, maybe that's the reason why the Rock gets to use the name of the Rock outside of WW without any headaches is because he kind of gave them a big piece of intellectual property that has been going for 15 plus years. So that being said,

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Well, that was interesting too, when he, cause yeah, when he got into Hollywood, when it was like the scorpion King, it was like Dwayne Johnson. And then it was like the Rock or doing that. I remember that, remember when it was like every movie came out and he would be something different, it would be like Dwayne, the Rock Johnson and then the Rock and then Dwayne Johnson. And then, and now it's like Dwayne, the Rock Johnson. Yeah.

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But the interesting thing is, is like when he was out as a, as a movie star, initially I once said, I was like, he's got to use the rod because no one else is gonna see his movies. If he doesn't use the word Rock, he doesn't use me to use that name anymore. He doesn't need to use the Rock as his name in movies anymore. Dwayne Johnson is a name that carries people to the box office. In most cases, except in the case of the tooth fairy or something of that nature. Sorry, sorry, Duane. I had to, I had to say

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Just a couple of quick, funny stories when we were working on the logo for this podcast back a couple of weeks ago. Biko is this guy that does all, all logo work,

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Shout out to beco he does some amazing work for you. Read I, that dude is talented anyway. Go on.

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Yeah. Well he does like the best name, videos, logos, and he's done like all of the different podcasts and everything, but he lives in Croatia. So we do everything online and I was talking to him about this, Hey, we gotta do this XFL thing. We gotta do it real quick. Cause you know, the, the league and everything, and he goes, Oh, what is this? And I said, well, have you ever heard of the Rock? He goes, Oh yes. I know Dwayne, the Rock Johnson. Like he was so proud that like he knew that, you know, from like our American culture. The other quick story is when I was at a wedding two weeks ago and I got my dragons license plate holders on my car and it was like parked outside the venue. And we were walking by and me and the photographer and the couple and I was sitting there and Jane the photographer, she she has shot for like the dragons and she shot for the Sounders.

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And she went to the championship with the Sounders and the Seahawks. She went to the super bowl with them and I said, Hey, Jay. And I said, GC, I got, I got my new you know, license plates. And so she goes, Hey, Sam and Alice was a couple of, she goes, Hey, look, you know, Reid's got these license plates. And Sam was like, wow, like XFL, huh? And Alice, the bride. She's like, Oh, what is that? And he goes, Oh, don't worry. You'll like it, the Rock just bought it. And I thought, you know, a lot of these conversations are going to be having know happening now with the Rock and the XFL purchase. Right? Oh, you'll like this, the rock bought it, you know, the Rock thinks it's cool, you know?

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And I, and I think it goes to the point of that. Like, you know, we've discussed our issues with Vincent man. How, like, we don't want to spend any more money with Vince at a fault possible. I mean, you know, there's been some nice title belts, WDB title belts that I wanted to purchase, but I'm like, I'm not gonna, you know, it's, it's only 300, $400, but I'm still not going to fill his tank of money up too much longer. So are you pulling out a belt right now? Reid's going to grab one of the belts. So you can see this on video. Of course, subscribe to us on YouTube. I'm gonna take the time to say, subscribe to us on YouTube. Also, please rate our podcast on your podcast player, whether it's Spotify, Apple podcasts, Google podcasts, these are iHeartRadio. We have so many places where you can get this podcast. We really, really, really want you to rate our podcast. So please, if you're listening areas, there's the champ. If you're listening to this podcast and you like what we're doing with this podcast, please take the time to rate it and subscribe and, and write a review and all that other good stuff, because that helps push us up and become the, you know, the source for XFL speak.

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Yeah. Not really XFL news. Yeah. Just XFL like ramblings XFL, like general observations.

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Basically we basically take the news articles and kind of give it our opinions on what's going on. So that's, that's what we wanna, we want to, we want to be the one, want to be the authority for your XFL opinions. We want to tell you how to think about the XFL.

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Yeah. I'd like to think we're a personality driven podcast. Not necessarily news or anything

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I'm on it. So I'm kidding. I'm getting ready. Yeah.

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Yeah. Apple podcasts. We need the Apple podcasts left.

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Definitely. And of course again, if you, I wanted to talk about this. Good. I totally spaced talking about anything. I was totally spaced something. I want to bring up with the XFL relaunch happening. What kind of merge do you want to see read? That's a good question. You want to help it? Don't you,

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You know, the helmets are sick. I don't know what I would do with the helmet am I'm really happy that the football's coming. I think that's going to be a good addition. I don't know. I mean, now that we have our own merch shop, I'm kinda like

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We don't, we don't sell helmets.

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We could sell football though. Maybe you could find this a football manufacturer.

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Yeah. Maybe I'll, I'll look at that. I'll look into that and have an XFL Mark cast football.

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But yeah, I I'm just looking for it. You know, it sounds like the Rock really wants to brand. It really wants to build the personality is really wants to build, you know, the, the back culture with everything. And so I'm up for it. I think, you know, even the XFL went through a couple of different merge providers early on some of that, you know, the early hats versus what they had near the end. And so like my real, like my nice black Fitbit era, snapback hat, like didn't even come to like, I think this season like had shuttered before, like it even came. So it was like, they were just getting into like doing all this stuff for good. So yeah, it'd be interesting to see what they come up with now, moving forward. I want to cause we,

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One of the reasons I didn't grab a cipher clearing my throat there. One of the reasons I didn't grab a, a Jersey, a Wildcats Jersey is because I didn't want cause every wherever jurors that you were able to purchase, like the one behind you just had the 20 on it, I was like, I want a special number. Yep. So he's pointing out right now. I wanted a special number. I wanted my own number and my own personalized Jersey. I didn't want like just the 20 Wildcats 20. That just seemed very bland to me. So I think, you know, especially with the mind, like the Rock and Danny, how they just, they just do great things. Merchandise is going to be definitely key to help either bankrupt read or, you know, generate some revenue for the XFL.

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Well, and, and just to round this out, you know, the whole talk with Vince and you know, some of the decisions and everything, I think Vince really wanted it to be a league first kind of operation. Like I'm Vince. I own the league. I don't pay these players any money there for me. I think the Rock is going to be way different and you know, promoting the player is promoting, you know, hopefully more pay promoting those personalities. And I'm hoping along with that, I mean, we have like Dallas the renegades had a Landry Jones, like personalized Jersey. And that was it. And I'm not saying that like I wanted the brand and silver as one, although you did, when we were playing against the roughnecks at home and I, this is the only two games we went to, my mom was there in attendance and I looked at Michael Payne and I said, if Brandon silvers pulls this out, I will buy, I will buy it.

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Cause he's still, it's still the 20, but I will get a silver as Jersey because we needed that wins. And he didn't. So I didn't have to buy it well that you should thank him. Then you should thank him for not pulling out the victory. So you didn't spend any more money. Yeah. That was a reciprocal offense. Anyway, thanks for listening. XFL, Mark casts. We'll be back next week. We'll probably have someone come on to discuss something they're doing within the XFL or maybe outside of the XFL. We just want to talk to people regarding the relaunch of the XFL. Again, gotta plug it one more time. XFL show.com/merge to get all your XFL, Mark cast merchandise, a hop on, buy a shirt, buy a racer back tank because Dorothy demanded it. Shout outs to Dorothy. Give her a hard time, but yeah, I'm glad she demanded a racer back to you.

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Yeah. And just say, I just bring the personality. I've been listening to a lot of these the podcast leads recently, other podcasts. It's like a lot of the same conversations with a lot of the same players from like April. And I think it's great, you know, obviously, you know, you want to give people support, but yeah, I'm looking for, we gotta find some, some people that pop and some good personalities and just some interesting stories because you know, it was like 50 minutes on like, Oh, what was it like, I don't know. I don't want to get to, we don't want to focus on the shutdown. Any more particular we want to focus on the relaunch. Yeah. I think that's what, that's what sets us apart is that we're hopeful. We're optimistic and we're, we're looking forward to a relaunch of this product. Yeah. So anyway, thanks again. Later.

XFL Markcast Episode 3 - Where Do We Go After The Sale? Featuring Mick Foley

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Okay. I'm ready now. Okay. The XFL Markcast. Hello there, week three. Hope everybody's doing great. Hopeful. Hopefully everybody's paying attention. Hopefully everybody's invested again, just like we are. I'm Paul Sanchez. I'm Reid Johnson, and we're going to run through the stuff that we've seen and heard over the last week in regards to the XFL 2.1 or 3.0, I don't know what we're calling this. I still like 2.1. A lot of people are calling it three point. Oh, I think as long as you have the same teams and the same cities right now, I'm going with 2.1 or 2.5. I like 2.1. That seems good. I like 2.1 as well. It's pretty good because it's not, you know, 20 years after the initial project flopped, you know, this is like the next year. So 2.1 is an adequate thing. I think we should all adopt that.

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Yeah. If we could get on, on the same page, I think that would help with the branding. And also if we can get a hashtag figure it out, cause I've still been doing hashtag XFL 2020, and now then I've also been doing hashtag XFL 2021, which seems more apropos. So, but if we could really, as a collective internet, get on one of those, cause my I've been having to like copy and paste when I'm doing my retweets and it's getting a, it's getting a lot, it's getting to be a bit much. Let's just, let's all agree on one hashtag and go forward from there. Yes. And that should be for the love of football football. So first things first we wanted to, I wanted to discuss the coaches issue. Next week, apparently they're finding out who's going to stick around. Of course the BC coach pep Hamilton, he will definitely not be sticking around.

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I don't see him coming back to be a head coach in the XFL, seeing that he is in an NFL franchise coaching system. He is the QB coach of the LA chargers. Still getting used to saying LA chargers. He's a QB coach there. So you've got, you know, seven coaches that are still remaining. I I'd tell ya. And I love Mark and I love the news hub, but even this article it's like, and a source close to me, doesn't want to be named, says that we're potentially finding out next week. I don't know if I believe that. I'm sorry. And I, you know, and I, and I wish believe me, I wish there was a lot more XFL news. You know, I put together the, the Google docs that we would have some talking boy today because you know, at first glance, there's not a lot on the surface to talk about, I think we have a lot of good talking points today, but yeah. I mean, I think a lot of people thought Monday, okay, big news or, you know, what's going to happen at Jeffrey Pollock. Are we going to talk about, you know, who's replacing all of her luck. I don't know if this coaches thing, I don't know. I mean, I think there's a lot of stuff that's running around right now and we can talk about the whole 20, 21 season tickets later on too. Cause that's another fun story to cover.

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Yeah. I don't understand why they would why that would be a priority to let the coaches know next week, if they'll be retained. I think like you said, naming the new commissioners, it's all overlook will not be back due to probably personal and legal issues. Naming the new commissioner seems like the most important task the team has to, has to undertake. And of course, Jeffrey Pollock is the guy that's being mentioned as, you know, the guy, the guy that people are making a case for in terms of becoming the new XFL commissioner.

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Yeah. I just, it, I don't know. I mean, some of these, some of these are articles and you see 'em and like I said Mark, you know, love him. We met him, but you know, we're, it's, you know, source close to me. Doesn't want to be mentioned. Okay. I don't, you know, I want it to, I mean, believe me, I want, I mean, I don't, I don't know if I want Zorn back as a, as a Dragon's felon. Well, I got into a Twitter debate this week. I mean, you know, we didn't, we lost our offensive whoever, you know, right before the season started and, you know, Zoran was trying to do double duty and do you play calls? And I mean, you'd see him down there cause you know, you can hear everything and you, I mean, he just wouldn't even know. He just wouldn't even know what to wear, you know, so, and maybe that's not Zorn's fault. I would like as a dragons fan, I, you know, pep Hamilton was great. You know, you had stoops and you had Jeffery Hayes over right. Jeffrey Hayes and in St. Louis I just, I would like someone besides Doron, but besides that, I do not think the coaches are getting to know

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That's next week. No, I think that the reason why Zorn is the Seattle dragons or was, I know what you want to call it currently still is the reason you have that, that, that guy is their head coach just cause he's a Seattle legend. Just because someone is a Seattle legend or a city legend, it doesn't necessarily make them a good coach. I think Jim, Harbaugh's having some of those issues in Ann Arbor right now as the Michigan head coach. He's a, you know, he's a Michigan man, but he's just not quite getting the job done up there. So while I appreciate the sentimental value of having Jim's on as the head coach of the Seattle team, we've seen the Jim Zorn experience happen on the pro level in the NFL and it hasn't turned out very well. So maybe, maybe just maybe read, you'll get your wish that that will

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And Jonathan Hayes, sorry, not Jeffrey Hayes, Johnathan Hayes. So, sorry. So sorry. It's been a really long off season. Like I had all, this was like ingrained in my head. I was there, you know, twice twice a day, Saturday, Sunday watching the games. But yeah, it's, it's definitely fallen into the back

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Because I mean, it's, you know, this covet thing is kind of made this year, feel like three years long it's it's it's dragging. So we, we briefly touched on it there, but Jeffrey Pollock, of course the people are clamoring for him to be the new commissioner makes sense to promote from within. And I think, I think this is a good idea. What do you think?

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Yeah, I think so. I mean, I think it, I think a lot of people were just asking who else, I mean, at this point, you, you would want someone that was involved in the 2.0 and it's, it's a shame with, with all of her luck. I mean, I think it's either Pollock or they go out of left field. I just haven't seen everything I've seen is people speculating, you know, that's Jeffrey Pollock. So and not that obviously the sites know everything, but I do think that that's kind of the general consensus,

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Right? And as there's, there's two, there's two parts inside of me that would say it would be great if Larry Scott were hired away from the pack 12 to be the commissioner of the XFL, but I want the XFL to see succeed. And the pack 12 is now succeeding on the football field right now. So maybe that's not a good idea. So I'm of two worlds on that. I heard his name in the mix and I went, Oh gosh, that's right for the PAC 12, but bad for the XFL. I don't know which one I'd want to suffer any further because I mean, you know, the Larry Scott rumor that I heard, the PAC 12 network launched the network specifically for the conference and it is not on direct TV, it's on everywhere else, but not direct TV. Meanwhile, direct TV has all of the networks for all the different conferences and you're missing out on a big, there are schools that have took, taken out a considerable bonds based on the PAC 12 network payouts that they're getting from the distribution hubs, like the cable companies and stuff.

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And that's not happening to the level that they thought was going to happen because the direct TV deal never got done. So I don't think I want Larry Scott overseeing this and Jeffrey Pollock makes sense. He oversaw the growth of the massive growth in the, a world series of poker during the late two thousands. I know that it wasn't quite on everybody's radar back then, but you know, it, it became a huge, it became a huge draw for ESPN when Pollock wasn't charged. So this might be the best way to go about it. It's just to get someone in the mix that was already there.

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I should start wearing like my poker shades, certain like roughly on the world series,

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Their poker face. Of course, last week you heard that we broke the news to otros Cinco didn't know that the CFL had been had been shuttered.

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That was great. That was a great moment. If you didn't see it,

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He's like he didn't see that coming because there's a lot of money in the CFL to be made. And it kind of, I D I don't quite agree that there, there is for sure going to be an NFL season like we've discussed here before the eight teams is more conducive for a bubble environment. You'd have to do hubs, I think, for the XF for the NFL. So I don't know if there's going to be a season that they might figure it out. They might not. I, you know, I gotta, Chad knows the business lot better than I do clearly. And if he says it's going to happen, it's going to happen. But some of the CFL players, I mean, they're, they're all going to be free as of, I think Monday.

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Yeah. They, I think of this Monday, I think that they now, cause yeah, we were a little van pointed out. We were the on top of the ball last week, but I think as of Monday, I think they were all, they were all good to go. So,

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And as of Monday, they're all good to go. They're released from their contracts. And there's, there's quite a potential of, of great talent. That's going to be available for the XFL. If it starts back up in 2021. Did you see, you see anybody that you thought really stood out in terms of CFL opt outs,

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If you think I'm watching CFL football, you don't know who you're talking to.

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I don't know. You're pretty close to Canada, you know, and apparently allegedly it is a funner game, according to my friend, Nigel, he's like, Oh, it's way. It's I think the CFL is better than the NFL Mike. Okay. Well, I don't agree with you, but I just looking over and if XFL news hub and they listed some people that they thought would be standouts and I haven't done my research on CFL as Reid hasn't, so I'm just going to take their word for it. But Sergio Castillo, kicker, I mean, there are a lot of kickers that don't have jobs currently. Why, why him and it's some of the, some of the info is, I don't know, I have to, I have to really dig down deep and understand exactly what, which CFL players might be a fit in the XFL because I, again, completely completely ignorant on all CFL things.

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And just to get back to the NFL thing right now, I mean, we're like three weeks away. I mean, is this, I mean, what, you know, obviously they're going to start, I mean, walk me through, you know, we're not doing preseason, we're not doing any of that. And so have they announced like, you know, no fans, I mean, I don't, I mean, I'm on the XFL all the time. I mean, honestly, that's all my Twitter exists for. So, I mean, walk me through what this NFL stuff looks like or look like right now.

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Well, I mean, for, I just got an email this morning and said, they're giving me a 20% discount on my NFL season pass and I'm not renewing it because I'm not sure there is going to be a season. I'm just not sure it's going to happen. As it stands right now, there's just planning on skipping the priestess and going right into the regular season. I don't think that's safe in terms of injuries and, and conditioning and those types of things. So I don't, I don't, I don't know what's going to happen here. And as much as you know, again, rocketing back to that OTO Cinco interview, as much as he's for sure think it's going to happen. I'm not sure it is going to happen.

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Still many people it's so many people it's too much, you know, you gotta isolate. I mean, Mark resist doc and on the new sub podcast this week that you know, that the NBA and NHL have had, you know, zero cases at all. And then you were still having trouble with baseball, you know, as of a couple of weeks ago. So

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As of a couple of weeks ago, as of this last weekend, you've had trouble in baseball. The Mets Yankees series got postponed because one met player and one met coach. Thankfully they were able to quarantine them quickly, but a one player and one coach tested positive. So the Mets Yankees series over the weekend got postponed.

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Here's the something that I did want to talk to you about too. And you know, with this whole bubble thing with Kobe and all that, you know, so we've had WWE now since March, I know they had a couple of riots, like I know like who like Rousseff or a couple of the people got COVID right. Like early on, when was the last time Debbie, he had a, had a COVID case at all. I mean, unless I'm missing it I have to look at that and you figure, I mean, you know, these are people that are going home, you know, and for people that don't know, you know, they, they first started wrestling, you know, nobody was there and then they expanded it and they would have like, just like rarely minimal, like trainers would be in the audience. And now just this last week, they've kind of done it where it's, they've built screens around, you know, two thirds of the ring. And, you know, having people watch, you know, virtually, and then they're kind of piping in fan noise, but here's wrestlers, you know, you're wrestling someone different every week you're coming. I mean, as close to contact as you can, right. Wrestling, sweat spent all that. I don't even know. Did you Google women's last time they had a complete case.

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Last time they had a code case, according to the quick Google searches, July 13th, that's a month and a half ago, which is probably why Roman reigns is back. Now that they've kind of got it under control. They seem to have a formula as to I guess keeping things as close to the vest as they can, if that's a term for it. But yeah, apparently, apparently the last case we had was July 13th, it looks like,

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Cause I just was thinking about that, which as I watched I did watch summer slam over the weekend. I did not give, instruct me and my money. I went and watched it for free on the network with some, some other staff that paid for the network. I won't Michael, sorry about that. But no, you know, but I was watching summer slam and I thought, man, like, you know, when was the last time you heard that? You know, I know there was a couple and these are guys, guys and girls that are going home every week, coming back wrestling and going home. But that, so that, that leads me back to my question with the MLB, with these guys that got, you know, the coach and the player. Are they just going out for like burritos after work? I mean, why, why can they not keep it, keep it locked down?

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That's a good question. I don't, I don't know what kind of protocols individual teams are. Look, Manfred's blocks this, this a response when it comes to major league baseball, he's botched it completely. The fact that the Marlins are in first place, we played half the games that everybody else has played. The Cardinals didn't play for a week, a week and a half. MLB has missed the boat on figuring out how to do this and to even get a, I would say to even get a a world series at this point is going to be based on the idea that they do a hub that's. That seems to be the way that everybody is. Everybody's operating is like the NBA has had no issues. Somebody leaves the NBA bubble. They got to stay in quarantine for two weeks before they are able to play.

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I mean, during clench moments the NFL is doing it great. So MLB has to move to a hub situation when it comes to the playoffs, if they want to play offs to happen. But I don't see the NFL being that kind of, it's not, it's too big for a PA it's too big for hub. It really is. It's way too big. And you can't say, okay, X and Y team are definitely not going to make the playoffs this year. So let's just not include them in the hub. That that would be a stupid thing to do because like you never know who is going to surprise you in the season. And when you know their first seven games and not be expecting like, you know, the Browns could actually be good this year. Surprisingly, the bar Browns could be good this year, the red I'm sorry, the Washington football team could be good this year. I can't, you can't say the other word.

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They still have. They still not figured out a team name for that.

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You're not going to for this year. It's just going to be watching football team. And I'm not a Washington football team fan, but I'm attempted to, by the merge just to have it as like a souvenir, I'd never wear it, just be like, and tell my kids.

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I might pop on some of that merge right now. I might have my eyes get, just get merged. That's good, Maria, just to have it

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Just to say, look, I was alive when this team that had this name for almost, I think over a hundred years, if not just under a hundred years, decided to change their name because everybody got woke and decided things that were racial weren't acceptable. So there you go. I just don't see it happening for the NFL. Sorry. Sorry. I'll just go. I disagree.

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Well, you know, and speaking of the bubble this was, I was listening to the, to the, this weekend XFL podcast this week and Josh Davis, who friends on Twitter he's writing for them now. And I wanted to Pat myself on the back, he did a phone interview with Derrius bell who was the DB coach for Dallas. And they were talking about the bubble and all of that. And he said the same thing I've been saying the last two weeks on here. He said, we did our training camps in December in Houston. He said, all the teams had a high school fields or, you know, college fields, whatever that we played on, he goes, it would be no different just to extend that literally what I've been saying for the last two weeks, the Dallas, one of the Dallas coaches said, and I just thought, you know, first off it was just an interesting interview because he was talking about how you know, he found out about the news about the league shutting down, you know, how I found out about the bankruptcy, it really interesting to interview, but then just how he just thought it was a no brainer to take it down to Houston and do a bubble down there just with all the different facilities that basically that every team could have their own facility come together, play all in the same city.

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You know, we'll be there obviously, you know, the whole time, right. That happens.

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Right. If that happens, but I, you know, how, how is Texas doing on their COVID cases though? That's, that's the other question you have to start wondering is like, are you, are you worried about putting this hub potential hub into a a place where, you know, for example, I'm looking at the map right now and Houston's one of the, one of the hotter spots for this,

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But then we were talking about that with the MBA. And for that

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We did, but I mean, the end at the end, at the end of the day, it was the NBA. The, I think it all relies on the football league. Then there are protocols where you're talking about having different, these different facilities. Maybe you don't have these different, maybe you put two teams at a facility to limit the amount of travel.

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Yeah. And I think too, you know, and like I said, I don't know the politics and keeping the people quarantined or whatever, but I think with XFL guys, I think you just, you know, put the fear of God in them and just, you know, you lock everything down. I just think it's way easier. The lockdown guys that are making 50, 60,000 a year for the short season than it is to try to limit, right. I mean, is that the issue right? That people are going outside and doing other stuff. Yeah.

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I mean, there, there are issues where you have, I mean, we understand players have personal lives and we understand like, you know, there are some players, for example, Garrett Cole had a baby either before the season started or right when the season started. So he had to, he had to kind of break protocol to go and be, you know, with his wife. So I think it's, it's, it's a tough, it's a tough sell. It just would have to depend on how organized it is to get that bubble in place. And of course, we're, this is a pipe dream that we're basically throwing out that this might happen in 2021. If this doesn't happen in 2021 and the Vegas OD makers are leaning more towards the 20, 22 bet, are we really worried about it? Then we shouldn't be worried about that point. Like this should be under control to the point where, you know, there's a vaccine or, you know, immunity actually holds, I don't understand, you know, why people are losing immunity.

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I of course tested positive for antibodies, which means I did have it or was exposed to it. And I w I thought I was safe. I thought I felt, I was like, great, wonderful grand. And then of course later on, they said, Oh, wait, your immunity only lasts maybe three months max. So if it's 2020 to start, then we don't have to worry about this. But again, if it's going to happen in February, like we think we suspect it might then yeah. Then this might be in still being an issue for us going forward. Our new XFL owners, Dwayne and Danny and their group at Redbird heard some interesting things about Redbird that I won't share on the podcast. Some I think you might have heard the same stuff that I had heard which makes me think, gosh, I shouldn't, I should, I should throw some money in that. Apparently Dwayne and Danny are getting into a acorn, the acorn smart app. Yeah.

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I use it. I don't know. I thought that was interesting. Did you, did you have any on that? It seems like it was a weird investment right now.

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I don't understand. I guess I don't understand the concept between like how these apps make money, because acorn is an app that rounds up your spending to the nearest dollar. And like, if you have something that's, you know, six 46, it rounds it up to seven and then at 54 cents is put away for your college fund. I don't know. How does acorn make money? Like I don't, that's, that's the question I'm now looking at? So apparently he the rock got involved because he said in people that especially this year, there are so many people feeling as I did when I was struggling with just seven bucks in my pocket, of course, seven bucks is the name of his production company. He's anxious. He says he was anxious and uncertain about his life and future in particular our children have experienced life changes and through it, they have shown a resilience and heart that we adults and parents should be exceptionally proud of. I think he definitely is referring to all the stuff going on with COVID and yeah, I just, I'm, I'm interested to see his diversification to say the least,

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I mean, drop ins and I think they invested 7 million and then off to $7, you know, the whole seven seven thing. But yeah, it was interesting. I mean, I believe me, I was hoping for more XFL news this week and not like the rocket investing in acres. It's like, okay, that's not the tweet I want to be seeing today. I want to be seeing about, you know,

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New commissioners or whatever is that true? Speaking of the rock, getting involved in the XFL on my other podcast will housing. Yeah. We had the chance to speak to Mick Foley, the hardcore legend himself, dude, love cactus, Jack, you know, all his names and he commented on what he thought about the rock buying the XFL.

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Didn't have this interview with TMZ. So you guys are getting a second helping here. I think the rocks are really smart guy. His it's his partner slash ex-wife the greatest former married couple ever right rock. And Danny Garcia it's really gives hope to anyone who's ever had trouble in their marriage that maybe one day they can be as great, a couple ed rock. And Danny are now to the point where, when I took my family to see wrestling fighting my family, the about page up producer, Dwayne Johnson, producer, Danny Garcia. And I leaned over to my wife and go, that's his ex wife, like how cool is that? That she still looks out for his money and she doesn't get him involved in anything that they don't think they can make a work with with a lot of hard work and a lot of thoughts. So I don't think they do anything on a whim. I don't think there's not, this is not an insult. When I say, I don't think the rock just does things on wins, you know, he's, he's a brand, right. And he's a really respected if they bought it. I think it's with the idea that they can make it make it work.

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How was Mick? I mean, I think he's a, I asked you when you, when you recorded, I said, huh, super nice. I said, did he go for the cheap pop that he had? Did he go for the cheap hometown pop?

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No, he didn't go for the cheap hometown pop. He did. He did throw Al snow under the bus, you know, area. It was always like taking his digs at Al snow. He threw Al snow under the bus. And yeah, you talked about like, you know, overall he talked about his favorite matches. He talked about, is there a match to be in which apparently was the 2005 vengeance against Randy Orton? I guess he's a huge, yeah. Randy Orton, that was his favorite match. I think maybe in the WB, there probably was some matches he did in Japan that were great, but he liked that max is one of his favorites that he's been in. And then of course the favorite match that he watched was a Terry funk. Rick flair,

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Apparently. So he's a, Nick is an Oren. Mark Foley

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Is apparently an Ord Mark and Rick McFoley also loved edge before Mick Foley was a big proponent of edge when the management didn't quite believe in him. So you know, he's, he's a fan of edge and ordinance, so he probably really liked that that WrestleMania about that went on for eight hours. It seemed, Oh, that last man standing. Yeah. Magic masterpiece. That's funny. The Carolina Panthers apparently are becoming XFL 2.2. They're assigning some players from the XFL, including a wide receiver cam Phillips and quarterback, PJ Walker. Of course, PJ Walker was the quarterback for Houston, I believe. Right.

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Crazy. And it was crazy. And they were saying about this too, just how late it is to be signed in camp Phillips, to finally get him in, to be doing rounds and stuff that there's a lot of speculation, you know, cause PJ and and cam were together on the roughnecks and that he, he may be vouched for cam to come on, but it's just crazy to think that he's just getting looks right now and we're, you know, two and a half weeks out, but,

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And I'm wondering like, what is the Panthers depth chart situation if they're signing, you know, a quarterback wide receiver tandem?

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No, cause right. It's cam Newton, right? Isn't cam Newton. No, he's on the, he's on the Panthers now. Who's who's going to be the big who's

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I think we got a, let's see, let's see who we got right now as their quarterbacks. We have I'll look at the roster for the Panthers real quick here, pull it up. I didn't even have this ready. I'm so sorry. We have Bridgewater. Who's going to be the starter probably. We've got will Greer and PJ Walker. There's those are the three quarterbacks right now.

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How do you feel about that? How do you feel about his chances to get any playtime?

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I don't know much about will Greer. I, he was from West Virginia. He's been in the NFL a couple of years now. Zero touchdowns for interceptions doesn't seem too good, probably just pre-seasoned steps from last year when he was a rookie. The way PJ Walker played in the in the XFL, you have to think that there's a definite chance. And as far as Teddy Bridgewater goes he's been sporadically. Good. I kind of feel like maybe he's on the verge. So maybe PJ Walker becomes a glorified backup. I don't know, but PJ Walker has definitely shown with his work in Houston that he's, he's able to play at a, at a top level. So good for him. Good for him to come on and, and become an NFL player with his with his wide receiver camp Phillips

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That tells me about this. Cause you know, I'm a little bit more of a casual NFL fan, you know, I know my Brady's, I know my Wilson, you know, I know my way, you know John Elway, right? Teddy Bridgewater. W w is he, I mean, is that just like, I have no idea.

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You have no idea about Teddy Bridgewater?

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Is he like a big, should I be a Bridgewater Mark?

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I don't wanna, I don't want to down talk the guy at all because I just think he's been sporadic through his NFL career. He's been in the league seven years now. He of course played in Minnesota. He also, he played, he played in for the saints last year and actually he played for the saints last year and this is probably what got him the deal in Carolina drew Brees went down and Teddy Bridgewater filled in for five weeks and led them to victory and all five weeks that he was filling in. So maybe it's kind of interesting that you, you talked about him playing behind drew Brees cause drew Brees kind of had the same thing where he was kind of like this. Ah, he wasn't quite getting the job done in San Diego and then new Orleans took a chance on him. And of course he became one of the most successful quarterbacks of all time. Maybe this is a situation where Teddy Bridgewater has finally broken through any mental blocks he might have. He's, he's been really, he's been good in spurts, but he hasn't held it up consistently over a season. So maybe that's, you know, maybe that's the deal now is that PJ walkers in there to kind of push Teddy a little bit more to be that elite franchise level quarterback they need.

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I will be curious just, and I know that there's been a lot of talk in the past with XFL and just the QBs being so much more mobile. And I think that was a problem that we had with you know, our, our good friend, mr. Silver's, Brandon silvers was, you know, being more of that like traditional quarterback model where like the BJ Daniels and you know, PJ Walker and then even Cardell Jones, a little bit more, you know, mobile. Do you think how do you think that's going to translate with PJ, you know, w with the NFL versus the XFL, do you think that that is that like, I always use the example, you know, that's like going from my college basketball to the NBA and it's like totally different, right? Like you have Adam Morrison that, you know, it's like this, you know, quote unquote star gonna throw my digs, add Morrison, and then, you know, blows it in the NBA. Is that like, how does it work going from a, for them going from XFL to the NFL?

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Well, I think it works better now, these running type quarterbacks, because I mean, Michael Vick was, I want to say 20 years ahead of his time, because right now we are in the, we are in the, the moment that these dual threat quarterbacks are really starting to kind of NFL offenses are being sculpted around a dual threat quarterback, as opposed to forcing a dual threat quarterback to adhere to an NFL offense. You see that with Lamar Jackson in Baltimore, use that with Patrick Holmes who won a Superbowl just now in Kansas city. There are these two type of quarterbacks, these, these dual, dual threat type of quarterbacks that can do things with their arms and legs. And I mean, Russell, Wilson's been doing it, not on the level that, you know, Lamar Jackson is like, you always have to worry about Lamar Jackson running on you.

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You don't always have to worry about Russell Wilson running on you because he wants to pass first. He only runs because he gets in trouble and when he gets into trouble and he runs, he does good things with his feet, but he doesn't rely on his feet. It's not a part of his arsenal that he puts at the forefront. That's what I'm trying to say is the difference between a Russell Wilson and a an, a Patrick Holmes or a Lamar Jackson. So these kinds of quarterbacks are definitely something that are, that are becoming the norm in NFL offenses. And to that point, it's going to be interesting to see how bill Belicheck cause Tom Brady was not the most mobile quarterback and bill Bellacheck now has a quarterback that is more way, not way more mobile, but more mobile in cam Newton. It's going to be interesting to see how the Patriots either try to work their offense around cam or try to fit cam into a bubble with this team. Yeah. Be interested. I saw you got an email about season tickets.

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This is a great story. This is so great. So I'm sitting there yesterday morning and I'm like I don't know, why am I getting in the shower? I'm checking Twitter. And I see a XFL season tickets, 2021, and available now available now on the website. And so I'm like, you know, I'm like a Mark, right? I'm sitting there like, Oh my God, I got to get on. So I, so I'm going on the XFL and you go, and I think it's still on there now I looked at this morning again, but you go, you know, to the tickets and then by team, and it says, you know, click here to reserve your 20, 21 seats. And this is of course, you know, no thought in my head at all like, well, how would they even right now nothing's gone, but you know, and I'm about, so, so I click on the thing and of course, like the Link's dead, it's like, can't connect to Ticketmaster.

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And so then they have like an email and I'm like, literally getting ready. Like I'm composing this email to like tickets to the xfl.com or whatever. Like, Hey, would just be really great if we could reserve our safe. And I'm like, I'm so dumb. Like this is totally you know, either left over from last year or who the heck even knows. It's really weird though, because it is on there. It says, reserve your tickets for 2021. It's got the same kind of verbiage, you know, five game commitment and all this kind of stuff. But I did see it. I did see it a lot on Twitter yesterday. And then I got a call from, you know, van last night asking me about it too. And I don't, I don't know what the deal is. I don't know if it's leftover code. I know that someone that was monitoring the XFL Twitter account, they're following, like they were following 207 people and now Connor fault reports that they're following 208 people, which means that someone is along the rock, they're following the rock.

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Yeah. Well, but that just means that someone has logged in, you know, not that that's like the most breaking news in the world, but that, that does mean that someone has logged into that account. And as you know cause there hasn't been any activity since, you know, April when they did the Jake Gyllenhaal, you know, like kiss and walk out, you know, when they canceled the season. Right. So who knows, but it is really weird. It's on there. It's still on the site now. Obviously there's no way in the world that they're ever going to sell anything right now. Like outlaw, you know what I mean?

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I can't remember when, when were season tickets available for this last seat?

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Oh gosh, that's a great question. I don't know. Cause we were on there and doing it. I mean, I could, I could pull it up and look if you want to vamp for a second.

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Yeah. I just, I'm curious because if, cause it's been a year since the names were, were, were released and I'm wondering, I'm wondering if it was, we were able to reserve tickets before, after the names were released. Cause it was after the names earliest, there's definitely a chance that they might still try to shoot for 2021 and get a season ticket package.

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So I got my tickets on October 10th of last year. Okay. So, and that was, that was, and we had gone back and forth a little bit cause there was a, that's a fun story for the podcast. So we we have all gone on all this yellow guys. We had seven guys. We were all gonna get tickets two different computers trying to like log in and pick the, you know, pick the different seats was like crazy. And so we get on, we're going to be row one behind the dragons. We're so stuck. And then we look at the the, the map and the like the ticket master map that they had put on was not, it was reversed. And I know we had talked about this, they had the dragons on it had the dragons on the flip flop on the, you know, how it would not be normally like the Seahawks are on the, on the West, the West, you know, the down on the, I give you're looking at the map.

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And so we got into this hot panic because we, you know, we were going to be on the visitor side the way. And so we ended up getting, you know, we're a real one on a 50 yard line, ended up talking to our way into getting those tickets. So needless to say, I would like to be able to at least have the option to, you know, I think they're crazy if they, and that's my question for you too. I think they're crazy if they don't let people option to get the tickets they have before. I mean, obviously they have all that. I think,

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I think I completely agree. I'm not going to disagree with you at all. I think that the people that were season ticket holders in this 2.0 version definitely needs to be given priority for the 2.1 version whenever that happens, if it's next year or the year after that would be, that would be a nice gesture toward the fans that, especially from Seattle and st Louis that have stuck through this and, and still supported what's going on with the XFL. I saw that speaking of other fan base, I saw the the Vipers Twitter, like the one that covers Vipers news for Twitter popped up with a tweet recently. So people are starting to wake back up. It's a little bit of a hibernation thanks to COVID. But I think people are who are into the XFL start to wake back up and it would be nice to reward those that were here for the 2.0 like yourself.

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Like your, your friends over there in Seattle, like me down here in LA bleeding, red and yellow, leading red and yellow with the terrible logos, the terrible logo though. I'm getting a jacket by the way. I've just got to find a nice, a nice wild cat logo that isn't copyrighted or trademarks. So we're going to get, we're going to get, we're going to get my jacket. Finally. It was like, the van told me he had jackets up in the room and he just didn't know that I would have wanted one. I'm like I would have worn, I wouldn't have worn a red Sox jacket, but I've worn pretty much any other jacket. Cause I was freezing again. It was so cold.

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I've never laughed so hard. Dan called me after the podcast, I was driving home. We posted it on Friday and then they had the CLO cracking merge store opened down the brand new one. They just said, okay

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For, thanks for looking out for something for me to get there.

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Worst merge. I'll tell you I bought a hat. I got it in my bag. I think I'm going to return that. I had so much promise. I tell you they need their consults and people about some of this merge. I mean just the NHL team, you know, I figured, well they're going to have the best merchant anything. Right. You know? Cause the XFL is like, okay, it's hokey, whatever, you know, they're doing their, I mean, now they got like, I like this, you know, my hat, terrible Martino. I'm driving home van calls me, Hey is this the bus driver that was thrown under the bus about the jacket? I thought, Oh I wasn't. I was teasing. We love you man.

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Yeah, I think it was, I think it was more like a, a miscommunication. Yes. And there wasn't a miscommunication that happened on my part. So you guys could work that out. Yeah. Okay. To work that out, but apparently I'm getting a jacket out of the deal, which I appreciate. Thank you van. It's not necessary. It really isn't. I was just, I was kind of like, you know, busting chops a little bit, making fun of the scenario, the situation of freezing my butt off in DC. Cause it was really, really, really, really cold. St. Louis mascot. What is, what's the story on this? He told me a little bit.

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So they posted cause again, so August 21st, which is literally legitimately crazy to think that a year ago we got the team names. I remember standing in this very spot. We're watching the live stream they were talking to. Is it going to be the surge? Is it going to be the Seattle cracking? You know, we had talked about because that name had been floating around, we knew the NHL was talking and Dorothy came in and we saw the dragons thing. I ended up filming a wedding that day. I just can vividly remember seeing the dragons and all that stuff. Well, I guess st Louis was going to do on the, on the one year anniversary was going to introduce their new mascot. It was called like Archie B Hawk. And I guess you know, cause Archie, cause like the St. Louis arch and then B Hawk like the Battlehawks. But so my question was, and could you think of any other, you know, w Seattle BJ, Eric, what would be the, you know, what would be the other mascots? Cause if, you know, if, if St. Louis could have one, then you know, we could definitely have like a dragon running around, you know, for the Seattle,

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Puge Puget dragon, I don't know. Puge the dragon Puge, Puge. The dragon lived by the sea. I don't know. I don't know. I'm terrible claw, wild cat. That's probably one that, that man I saw, I saw that by the way that I saw that speaking of the year anniversary of the logos of reach, where he snap, I saw that comment and you made it, you know, you were like, what is it? Someone designed? The sentiment is paint that you attributed to me. I'm like, it's exactly what I said. When that thing came out, it was terrible. I keep going back to it. I focus on it cause it was so bad. So, so bad. Maybe, maybe that's one thing rock and Danny need to look at is like getting better graphic artists. I mean, dragons, the dragon stuff is great. I see the flag behind you. The dragon stuff is great. It's perfect on branding as far as like LA Wildcats work needs to be done. Yeah.

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Let's do funny. Yeah. The mascots,

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It just shows how, how committed St. Louis and the organization was to giving St. Louis a football team after, you know, the Rams moved back where they belong. I'm sorry, St. Louis fans, but it's true. You guys stole the Rams first and they got stolen back. So I'm hoping that we're going to get some more guests on next week. I've had, I've sent some emails out since some messages to people and I haven't heard anything back, but we're hoping to get more guests on here to talk XFL. We'll hopefully have those on next week to talk about specific franchises that we haven't talked about. Like the guardians, we haven't said much about the guardians. We've got a beat reporter that I've been chatting with to come on and discuss them. Hopefully that'll happen next week. And other than that, we're just, you know, we're sitting back and waiting for the next thing to come out the next car, the next shoe to drop, so to speak. So we can feel more excited about this XFL season going forward if it's in 20, 21 or 20.

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Yeah. We need some, I really think a lot of people thought Monday was going to be the day after the sale close Friday, you know, they posted the thing with the keys and they have the cool, like the face or the key that was the Rock's face. And they have the key that I, my dad was more graphic design than the whole original XFL ever had was doing this like stupid key thing with like the rocks face. But I really think people thought Monday was going to be the day and it's been really quiet so far. I didn't remember what I was going to say. And it was I'll give Mark credit from new South that the the renegades with the bandanas were really on brand for the whole COVID thing. Right. They were really, really on brand. They were ahead of their time.

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So I will I'm I'm stealing the joke I'll give credit, but yeah. So we got to figure out like, you know, the dragon with the, with the bandana or the mask, you know, we got to figure out all that come with surgical masks. Yeah. Well, he'd burned through it. You know, Puge, Puge would burn through it. Puge, Puge T dragon, the dragon T dragon, that's it. That's it. That's the mascot name, Puge T Dragon. And with that, we'll leave you there. We'll be back next week with more XFL news, hopefully some big news brewing and fingers crossed for the love of football for the love of football. We'll get it back in 2021. Thank you.

XFL Markcast Episode 2 - The Sale is Final! Featuring Chad Ochocinco

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So the things I wanted to talk about were first and foremost, Colin Kaepernick, are we recording yet? I've I've always recording. Okay. I don't know what's going on with copper, Nick, why are we starting? Wait, is this for real you could, we could, we could start it's it's the power of editing, you know, worst friend, well said before we actually start recording, I was going to ask you, I've been thinking about this all day. Are there any unwritten rules in terms of our friendship or this podcast? Because you know, we saw all the drama this week with the Padres, right? And and so I was thinking, I thought, man, so Paul, whether some unwritten now we've been friends a long time. You're a lot older than I am. So it's a lot bigger. It's a lot bigger portion of my life than it is your life.

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But I want to know what are some unwritten rules in our friendship and our relationship. There's some unwritten rules. Okay. Unwritten rule. Number one, you got to trust me a little more. That's an, that's an unwritten rule. Well, the first unwritten rule is you don't drink before 11:00 AM. That's that's number one. True. That's true. That is a true story. I'd never drink before 11:00 AM with Reid. You can't drink before 11:00 AM. And if I do, then I make a big scene about it on Facebook or whatever. I just go, Hey, look, who's drinking before 11:00 AM. Can you, can you, can you do marijuana before 11:00 AM? I'm not a, I'm not a big partaker of that. So I don't know if the way he can bake. Is that what they call it? The wake and bake. I don't do it often. I mean, I've, I mean, I can count on, well, that's not true anymore.

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I mean, I've gotten edibles pretty heavily now, but anyway, so no drinking before 11:00 AM 11:00 AM God, trust me more. There's gotta be some more trust. Trust Baltimore. Anything else? Any other unwritten rules before we get started? I've the funny thing is like I, I played baseball at the collegiate level and I got invited to spring training and I played in high school. I played in travel ball. I did all of that stuff. You know, any times I heard this unwritten rule of not swinging the bat when you're up zero, zero times. That was the first time I had ever heard of it. Well, now I've gone to, we have a niece that plays in tee ball, and I've certainly heard about that in T-ball where, well, once you get score six runs or whatever, it's a mercy rule, then we'll let the kids go. But I didn't know that they played that in the pros I tweeted from my XFL market account that I can't wait for real sports to come back. And I was talking about the XFL.

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Well, it was it's interesting because someone else brought it up to me earlier. They said they were listening or they're reading Mike Cameron's book. And of course, Mike Cameron, a very famous Seattle Mariner had a four home run game and there was a three and O count. The Mariners are rolling. I think it was against, I can't remember who it was, but he was starting with his four home run game, a really phenomenal feat to hit four home runs in a game. There was a 300 pitch. The guy threw it right down Broadway and Mike, Cameron just didn't swing at it according to my camera. And he was like, I didn't want to pour it on. And that was someone brought that up to me. I'm like really? He said in his autobiography and I'm thinking that's that's now the second time I've heard about it.

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Even though that came out before this whole Fernando tatties thing, it was interesting to say the least, because I'd never heard of that role. I've played at almost every level I've played at every level I've played at every level. I mean, two innings in the pros, every level. So it wasn't even two innings. It was like an ending and a third because I got shelled in the, in, you know, Tommy, John surgery. I didn't come back to my normal form. The point is I had never heard of this rule ever heard of this rule. And now it's a big deal. And I don't, I guess I don't understand Twitter. Doesn't understand what's going on now. And you don't either.

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I don't, I don't, I don't I famously don't watch sports except for the XFL. So,

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Well, you're probably going to watch this Seattle crack in now.

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I will watch the crack. And did, did you like my new dragon sign? I got it came. It came in time. This week that the tape is getting, it's getting a little hot in the, in the office.

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Can you iron it with your OCD? I'm surprised you haven't ironed the flag and made it flat.

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I think in about that. But if it's, if it's messed up, then it's just messed up. Once I touch it, then it's gotta be, you know, it's gotta be right

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Anyway.

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We're getting ready for XFL chalk. I did bring my orange jacket, my signature, his jacket from my boy van. He was watching. He's a, he's a let me see if I can do this live on the air. He's a fan. Ben called me. He said he liked the podcast looks good. I'm glad I like the podcast. So we got some stuff wrong, but that's a, that that goes to figure for us.

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You had a con conversation with van. He told you some things you had wrong. Can you share any of those things? We had wrong?

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No. He told us that he he thought we had good production value. He enjoyed the fact that there wasn't too much music and that that yeah, they said it was good. My neighbor said it was good. He said that you came across as a good on air producer. So I thought that that was good. I said, well, that's his job, so it's good. But anyway, I got it. I'm going to take this off in the minute, but I'm going to show, I don't want to hit the mic, but

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I get that. Yeah. So here's a story about this jacket. So we go out to DC and reads, like, don't worry about bringing a jacket, a Van's got these jackets for us. Okay. Yeah. So he gets a jacket and guess who doesn't get a jacket freezing his ass off in DC and guess who's not.

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Yeah, it was called, well, it was so funny too, because, and this is a true story that we were getting ready to go out. And van was running the Facebook group, and then we were friends on Twitter and just randomly one that I'm working and he messages me and he goes, Hey Reid what's your jacket size? And I said, why, why would you need to know my jacket size van? You know, I just met you online. And he says, if he knew we were going to D C, cause I've been tweeting about that. We got tickets to the, to the opener. And I said, well, actually, I'm going to go with my buddy Paul. He lives in LA, but he's going. And so, you know, cause he, I think he thought I was taking Dorothy and I said, I'm taking Paul. And he goes, so I got your size. I got my size. Yeah. And then we'd go to DC and I kind of forgotten about it. Cause just whatever, you know, we're running around and crazy. And then a bunch of the podcasters are meeting at that. Larry. I can't remember the name of the bar we went to.

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Yeah. Yeah. I'm drawing a blank now, too. I see the logo, but I can't make out the name.

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Yeah. W the XFL, chalk talk rip was recording there and then exhale news hub was recording there and we're walking up to the thing and I see van there. And then a couple other guys and the jackets, and he said, Reid, I got your jacket for you. He had been carrying it all around DC and that, but you did get that sick beanie that you had. We got a couple of beats from it. But no van did call me and say that he has Dorothy's jacket. Cause he had promised my wife Dorothy one. And we would've gotten it at the next game that got canceled before, you know, all COVID and all of that. I think we would have had two jackets, but right now we got one in dances. We're ready for the next one. So that's the story we find the illustrious.

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Well, I mean it's okay. I'm not, I'm not terribly offended. I mean, at the same time, like it was, I was like, yeah, well I'm still freezing. So great.

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I would have been so cold and I can't even fly a bet jacket. It was so cool.

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It was pretty free.

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We lucked out because it was sunny, you know, when they talked about the XFL kicking off in February in DC. And I think people said, you know what? DC is like in February. Right. But yeah, it worked out,

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It all did work out in the end. So, so what's going on with Kaepernick. So I was, we were talking about this at work, actually a friend of yours. Let me, yeah. A friend of yours Walters. Was it Walter sports? Boxers

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Walters remember could have been Walter with the WWE

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That's right. Okay. You discussed about Walters and I see it now. So actually I Googled mapped it. So I'm cheating basically. I was like where's where's Nashville's park. There it is. Okay. Walter sports park. No a mutual friend of ours. He said this would be perfect for Colin Kaepernick. This would be an ideal situation for Colin Kaepernick, knelt. Listen, listen, I know, I know you're kind of shaking your head. But if the XFL were to bring Kaepernick in, pay him and put them on a team, what would be the public response will be the public relations response to that? Well, w what do you think?

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You know, I don't think the XFL needs them. I mean, that was the whole thing. Last year, they were going to bring in him and like Antonio Brown or the other guy they were talking about bringing in. I mean, I don't think the XFL needs it. I don't think we actually felt, need stars out the gate. And I think, especially now with the rock and everybody, I don't think you need. I mean, I think that is the star now that is what's going to get people talking about it. And like I said, you know, by week three, four, five, we had people that we were following. I just don't think it's worth whatever, $500,000, million dollars you would pay him. Is that even enough? Can the league even support that? I don't think so. I don't think you can have that. I mean, do you think you can have that big of a discrepancy in the wages with one, like with one guy?

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Well, what's his name? Landry Jones was making considerable amount more than everybody else in the XFL this last season.

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Well, we also saw that worked out. Okay.

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I understand that. But you have a guy like Colin Kaepernick who is, let's be honest, he's better than Lander Jones. He would be worth the money. The only problem is, is you're looking to expand the sport and Colin Kaepernick is a very polarizing figure. And I feel like there might be a situation where it's where for every one fan you currently have right now, you could lose that fan, but you're going to gain some fans because they're gonna be like, Oh, Kaepernick's playing. This could be a situation where it's a gamble, but you're saying it's probably not worth the gamble.

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I don't think so. I don't think people want to get involved in that. I think a lot of people even w you know, with the XFL people, you know, I listened to all the other podcasts, people that write in, you know, they like not having all the baggage that the MFL has and all the, you know, the drama and the politics. And I know all, there's a whole bunch of, you know, right and wrong. And, you know, I don't want to pick sides, but there's just a lot of stuff that takes away from the game. And that's what I like so much about watching the XFL is it's all on the game. It's on the play in the field, it's on the announcers and the coaches and listening to the play calling and seeing all that. I mean, that's what I liked it. I mean, what do you think, do you think he has a place?

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I think anybody who not just besides Kaepernick, I think anybody who is not going to find a place in the NFL this season has a place in the XFL. I think it's, it's definitely an opportunity to grow it the right way. When you look back at what the USFL did, the USFL went out and got Steve young to join their league. And they basically broke themselves, paying Steve young, an exorbitant amount of money to come to the USFL, and then it went under and that's what happened. That's basically not to blame Steve young completely. It was the owner's decision to pay that much money to have this guy come in at the same time. If these people, if these players aren't going to be playing because of COVID, I think it's smart to bring in anyone regardless. And I don't know what the contract situation is in terms of how much the guarantees are going to be for players.

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When they go to the ex, when they go to the NFL, you're going to have some draft picks that are going to need more money than what they're going to get on their downside guarantee as rookies. You're what you're talking about. Fifth round pick six round picks, seventh round picks. For example, Tom Brady was a seventh round pick. You're going to have players like that, who are going to need that money, because they're not going to get the guarantees from the NFL, especially if COVID shuts it down the season. So you're going to get some good talent. You're going to get some new, amazing talent coming in the XFL. And who knows if the tickets sell, support it. And if they relocate some teams our friend disagreed that they should relocate LA. I felt like there was there's too much saturation. I, while I am, I am a supporter of the Wildcats, I do feel like there's too much saturation this market. I think that it would be better suited for San Diego because they like the thing that works about st. Louis is the battle Hawks because they lost the Rams. The battle Hawks came in and that city really gravitated towards that team was like, we have a pro football team, granted it's XFL, but it's pro I think there's a place for everybody that can't find a place in the end.

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Well it's too bad that your favorite XFL logo, the LA wild cats, little logo, they really pigeonholed themselves in without logo, right? Just, I mean, it's the Al and

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I was not a fan of that logo from the get go. And then the claw that looks, that looks like something somewhat, I'm sorry, but it did. It looked like something, someone designed in basic graphic design. It did, it was, it's a terrible logo with a claw. It's terrible.

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You called it something, not for ms. Paint. I think you said that you could admit

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Really what I said. And you've seen the meme where the frog says, it's like the frog, and then it was like a cloud. It says graphic design is my passion. That's exactly what that is. I

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Mean, the thing with the salaries, I just, that's the stuff that just kills me with all these sports. And, you know, I know you're the big baseball guy and there's, you know, the one guy, his holiday that every year he gets a million dollars or whatever. Cause Larry, and, you know, it just kills me that you get all these guys that sit around, you know, they complain like the baseball thing. They're getting paid all this money, you know, whack don't hit the home run or whatever, you know, I just want to see people play. And so that would be my fear with bringing in Kaepernick or, you know, they already had the drama with, you know, the quarterbacks were getting like 250,000, and then you had other like BJ Daniels. He was also quarterback and, you know, Brandon silvers. And when he sucked and I still have my brand and silvers signed a tee shirt, but you know, but silver sucked. Right? And so then you have this question, well, if he's getting paid 250,000, BJ's not, you know, what you do with that? You know, even that kind of stuff, there was all this drama, let alone, you know, you bring it, someone like Kaepernick, that's getting, you know, a million or whatever. I just, I don't know if they're going to make that big of a discrepancy between all the players.

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Well, I mean, let's be, let, let me just, let's be honest, like quarterback controversies and, you know, quarterback, quarterback, competitions happen at every single level. You look at, you look like, look at Jacksonville. For example, Jacksonville brings in Nick falls. Let's take a look at Nick folds, his contract with Jacksonville it's Nick falls is now with the bears. So this is a moot point. Let's take that. Nick folk, I'm sorry, Nick foals. Both, both Nick folk and Nick falls, very happily announcing very happy to be Arizona alumnus, alumnus. I don't know. Anyway.

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Yeah. Alumni, Nick folk is a kicker. Of course, a Nick falls is the quarterback. The backup quarterback from the Eagles led the Eagles to a super bowl. And then they are still like Carson. Wentz is our franchise quarterback, which I thought was colossally stupid for the Eagles to do so. Falls went down to Jacksonville, signed a four year $88 million deal, much like you're talking about Brandon, Silver's having more, more pay. Nick foals signed the four year $88 million deal. And halfway through the season, he was benched for garner Minshew who is making four years, $2.7 million. So that argument of Brandon silver is making more money and not being the starter. There's, there's a history for that in the NFL where you're talking about garner men's shoe and Nick falls down in Jackson.

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Well, yeah, I mean, obviously, you know, across, I just, I said I would just prefer to see the play on the field and then having some drama with them, bringing in, you know, someone that's grossly overpaid.

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Do you think that like you want to avoid drama because of XFL 1.0 where Jesse Ventura was beefing with the coach?

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I, I'm sad to say my history of XFL at one point, I, I remember watching like the first game and not understanding what was going on and then I kinda trailed off.

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Well, I mean, LA is still the defending champions, right? Yeah.

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I would pick up if we weren't in COVID and with funds being so tight, I would pick up LA at one point though at Jersey just to be able to rock that around, but I have enough, I have four dragons Jersey, so I don't know if I could jump well. So I have, yeah, I have two authentic. I have a a replica and then this by video is still all screwed up. It's not printed. Right. It's, it's printed off centered. And I tried to return it and this was right when they were closing down. And so then they, they, they refunded me, the XFL refunded me and then sent me another Jersey and I thought, wow, this is going to be sweet. I'm going to get my money back. And then they messed up, you know, the, the channels got messed up and then it came and it's even more awesome than the one before it. But when it's on the wall, you can't really tell, but you can see it's like, it's, it's not it's

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So you can see where the G should be right at that V point. And it's yeah,

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It's not, it's like crooked if you were aware, but on the wall, it doesn't look too bad. So,

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So if there's one message you have for the rock it's, please make sure the merchandise looks good.

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That's a good merge. I hope, I hope that we can put the XFL, the shame when we get our merchant going here, coming up soon. I, you know, you know how I feel about good merge.

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I know this guy like will go to indie shows and he'll like, look through the merge. And if it's really good merge, we have like Keith Lee shirts from back when he was on the independence, Walter shirts back when he was on the end of Ben. So if it's a good merge reads, what Reid will buy it. And apparently if it's bad merge like off center dragons, we're in the middle of Jersey rebill still buy it apparently to be happy about it.

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Yeah. I'll try to re try to return it. And then, yeah, it'd be worse off than I was the first time I should have just kept it.

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Gotcha. So my question now, like moving forward, a cell goes through today, officially all the hurdles have been cleared. Have you heard of any further hurdles that needed to be cleared before this went through? Did you have you read up on that

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A dot and the T is, and crossing the I's are dot there. I've messed that up, but you know, just kind of making sure all the stuff is going ahead. I mean, it's been pretty quiet on that front. I mean, obviously we'll talk about the CFL. At some point during the show today, I assume, and, and the, the foregoing of all the players' contracts for the year, that was kind of the major that came out. And then earlier this week with all of her luck and we'll, we'll touch on all for luck too, but in terms of the actual sale as far as I know, it was just kind of the waiting period to process everything and get it going. So if I'm wrong, I'm sure. I'm sure van will let me know.

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Okay. I'm sure you will. And you're still, what did, did you want to get into the details of what we got wrong there? Or is that, is that like classified, privileged information between you and van?

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That's it? Yeah, I'll keep that close to the chest right now.

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Okay. Right now that's, that's fine. Other players that have been picked up, I guess, through through this process Jordan taboo, I don't know if that's the right way TAMU. Yeah. It's the right way to play it the right way to pronounce it. I should say he is gone. He is now with the Kansas city. Does he come back though? If the XFL, if the XFL is, is reboot and what is the contract status on these players that have left the XFL signed with NFL teams and now might come back to the XFL. Are there, are they still, is Jordan gonna still be on st. Louis or can he decide to go somewhere else?

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It's all up in the air right now. I think, you know, even the coaches aren't really locked down and who even knows. I mean, I think that's still a lot of the coaches if you've noticed you know, some of the, some of the coaches that are really trying to get you know, maybe the bubble city, the bubble play in their cities like Houston and st. Louis had been a little more vocal, you know, no one here in Seattle has really been talking right now. I live in, heard a lot down in LA, so it's so it's interesting that way, but you know, across the board, you know, who knows where everyone's going to go. I mean, you know, you're playing backup to Pat Mahone's, you know, I don't know how much play you're going to get. Right.

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And Chad Henny is the second on the depth charts. Chad Henny is number two. So you'd have to basically see a situation where, and God forbid, cause I think Patrick Holmes is great for the NFL. You'd have to see a situation where those two guys go down first. Then you see Jordan hit the field. So maybe, you know, maybe quite possibly depending on how much progression Jordan has, you might see him back in the XFL, or you might see him as a second string quarterback for a different team that needs a second stream quarterback. I don't know what the Patriots are doing. They look like they've got cam Newton as their starter, who knows bill bell, Jack floated the idea the other day of having a platoon situation, which is out of the ordinary for him. So there's, there's different places for these people to land these players to land. And you know, again, if the NFL doesn't play this year, maybe the XFL does.

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I mean, and that's the thing, you know, more about that, what people are getting paid like at third string or whatever, but is it one of those like WWE versus working on the Indies? You know, if you're, if you're a Jordan Tammuz, do you rather play a year or two? I mean, you have to argue the visibility of the XFL. I mean, I would obviously argue the visibility and the, and the worth of playing on that. But do you, do you play for less and get some visibility and get some reps and stuff? Or do you sit on the bench, you know, like, like outta Morrison and take the, you know, without, you know, I had to throw my digs out,

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Your boy, Adam Morrison,

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Do you, or do you do that and just ride the bench to a championship? I mean, I don't know. Well, I don't know what you do.

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There's really two schools of thought. Like you can either, you can go to the XFL, improve your stock and really draw bigger money if you went back to the NFL. But I think ultimately the goal is always going to be the NFL. That's the main league. And I don't, I don't foresee where before in XFL 1.0, it seemed like Vince wanted to overtake the NFL. You want it to be the football organization. And this one, he went in a little bit smarter and wanted to compliment the NFL, wanted to be almost like a farm system in a way like how the major league baseball teams have farm systems, like for example the Dodgers AAA team, right before you get up to LA as Oklahoma city, their AA team was Tulsa. He wanted to kind of, you know, be that kind of compliment to the NFL. So maybe it's not a situation where you look at it as a competition. You don't, if you're not happy with your position in NFL and you think you can do better in the NFL, maybe you go down to the XFL, improve your stock, go back to the NFL. And you can go from, you know, being a third string quarterback to maybe being a backup. And who knows Tom Brady was a backup once you saw what happened there.

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Yeah. I mean, I would just like to think that, you know, you have so much good talent there. You know, if I PJ Walker and TAMU and a lot of these guys that went up and just yeah, I just, you don't want to see that wasted. You know, you don't want to see them wasting the, well obviously wanting them to be happy and healthy, but you know, us football fans, you know, you want to see the good play on the field, especially if it can be in the XFL.

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Yep. And speaking of league shutting down the Canadian football league announced they were shutting shuttering their doors for the 20 to 2020 season due to COVID. That means about 400 players are looking for work. Last year, yet as J green armanti Edwards, Derek Dennis, those three guys were made the job from the CFL to the XFL for this last season. And maybe that's how they replenish their, maybe that's how they replenish their, their ranks. But now I'd ask the question. If all these players are available, you could potentially expand out a couple more teams at a possibility. No, no, you still want the eight. And then the nine ninth practice squad team.

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I think this year, I think it's going to be so tough. I mean, God, they're already talking, Oh, if we could get it going in the fall, it's not going to happen in the fall. If they can get it going in February, they got the teams. There's just no time this year. There's no time. I agree. There's going to be a ton of talent. And you know, the best thing about the CFL is unlike these NFL guys that are getting, let go or not making the squats. I mean, those guys don't get paid hardly anything either. And so you can go, you know, whether they get like five grand a game or something, some of these guys, I mean, it's, it's, it's nothing. And so I definitely see that. And then, you know, the one thing too, then it is what our Canadian fans going to be watching for football. Maybe they get a hankering for the XFL as well. So the thing about

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That's, that's a potential, that's a potential windfall I would say is if the Canadian fans don't have football and there's actual, you know, maybe, maybe the XFL adopts some of those Canadian rules, granted not their turf, but their rules. It's it's, it's a widely known thing that the CF, the CFL turf does shorten players, lifespans. I mean, Warren moon talked about it. He said the CFL turf was horrendous. I mean, Doug Fluney talked about it, this stuff. I mean, rocket Ishmael, the former Heisman winner had his career cut drastically short. He played in Toronto and then went, you know, played a little bit in the NFL, but his career was short because of the field conditions for the CFL. Maybe, maybe that's a way to incorporate some of those CFL rules into the XFL game to broaden and think outside, you know, the U S and maybe, maybe just maybe what if the XFL took the bubble up North

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Could be maybe I don't, I guess, I think this year, I think they got to lock it down, but yeah. I mean, do you have a good, maybe we can get some Canadian listeners. We could be an international podcast.

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I like that idea. I liked that idea a lot. Chad Johnson could barely hear you.

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Okay. You can hear me. That's perfect. How's it going, sir? I'm sitting here getting a little maintenance. I'm getting my nails done right now. Look at my hands. Awesome. A little pampering session before, before my plane takes off at seven, I'm going to Atlanta and held some business tickets and business real quick. Cool. Cool. We're good. That's dope. That's dope. Damn pandemic.

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Oh man. It's been, it's been kind of crazy. I've been working from home for the first few months, but I'm a photojournalist. So I've been gone. I'm back out in the field now covering various news stories. And how are you doing? How are you holding up? Right?

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That was quarantined before quarantine was a, so this transition

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Has been pretty easy for me.

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Well, Chad, I wanted to ask you what do you think about the rock buying the XFL man?

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I mean, it's dope. It's dope. I mean, it's dope that someone of his status, the one, you know, as being a consistent and as successful businessman, you know, is put a stake in something that he wants to love before we switched over to acting. So I'm sure we'll probably, you know, come to fruition of it, having a success rate, which it hasn't had, you know, of yet, no, for, for obvious reasons. But I think with him being a part of it and seeking the talent and one of the things from, from his point of view, I think it's going to be successful.

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Do you think that it's attributed to the fact that Vincent man does not really someone who played, probably played football at a level of the rock? Did

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I mean, Vince McMahon has been as man as a successful is that, and most of the people that do own football teams at times and our owners, are they all, did they all play before? Not really. It just great at business. And sometimes it takes more than just being a great business mind to make something succeed and having a football background. Maybe the rock will be able to make the XFL something consistent that gives other other players that don't have the opportunity to play at the highest level. Give them a platform to shop

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With, with all the pandemic talk. Are you concerned that we don't get an NFL season?

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No, we're going to get any of those. It's too much money at stake. Now that's going to happen. That's going to take the next. It's like it's happening in house. It's going to happen. Trust me, it is going to happen. Then they're gonna, the players are gonna have to abide by the guidelines in short, we don't know what's going on inside, you know, at these facilities. And once they go home, I'm sure coaches are asking them to minimize contact with the public as much as they can stand around family and friends. And I mean, I'm sure you can, you can sacrifice that for a few months, you know, if they get the football season pop.

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So if, I guess if, if let's just play devil's advocate here, let's just say that things go by the wayside. Maybe we get a shortened season. Do you see any of these football players, maybe the lower round draft picks, possibly looking at the XFL. I mean, I know the Canadian football league also shut down operations for 2020, maybe lower ground

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CFL shut down.

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Yeah. For, for the entire 20, 26.

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Yeah. No that they released them all from their contracts for the year.

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Yeah. CFL has done for this year

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Yesterday. Okay. Yeah. Okay. I didn't even know that you guys, you just, you just broke that news to me. That's crazy. That's great. Okay. So I mean, yes. I mean, it, it, it gives him an opportunity to play. It gives them opportunity to play, but if, if the NFL would shut down in the XFL would be able to play that I think would happen. I mean, if some, if an entity like NFL sits down with all the resources and knowledge and science, they have it at hand. If they can't play the XFL, definitely not going to be able to play to that point though. I mean, do you think that because we only have eight teams in the XFL, right, right. And eight teams would definitely bode well for like a bubble situation that we're seeing in the NBA and NFL can do the same thing if they wanted to, if they want it to and if need be, it can, it can happen.

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But the fact that they didn't go that route. And even, even, even though it's short, we knew about this long before, way back in March, we knew it was gonna be a pandemic. If they want to do something, a bubble, a bubble format for all 32 teams, it can happen. They can happen. They have the money, they have the resources, the revenue to do anything that's possible. And the reason in the fact that they haven't let's, you know, there's going to be a season because there's too much money at stake. Good point. Very good point.

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I know you tried out for the XFL last season, you were just messing around. So many people were looking for opportunities and that's me coming in and take an opportunity from someone else that Xs deserves it. I had my time and the fact that I can kick 60 and 65 70 yards, it was a cool thought, but I just like, you know what? I don't want to take the attention away from someone else that would X deserve. It needs a job. Did you watch, did you watch any of the games last year? If so, what did you, yeah. Yeah. I watched a few. I lost a few. Did you follow anybody specifically? No, no, no. Just a fast online. There there's no Miami team. So I just watched it when it was all in. I watched did

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The extra access that you guys had to the, you know, the play calling and stuff. Did you think that

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That was cool? I like, I like it. They should do that in the NFL. Well, I mean, to that point, it was really, it was really dope. It was dope to see. And to that point, the XFL 1.0, the original incarnation introduced that sky cam thing. And a lot of, you know, football teams pick that up afterwards. So that's one of the things you'd like to definitely see the NFL pick up on this guy cam was cool. I didn't like it that much, but something that they, that I would like for them to implement is a separate camera for wide receiver and DB match-ups, you know, simply for the cause. All you see is the replay. When a play is made, like I want to be able to lock in on the receiver and the DB and watch everything from the beginning, how we got open, how we call it, you know, and not have to rely on the replay, seeing it in real time. To me, it would be something dope and giving the viewer at home an option to watch from a different perspective, except just, you know, the TV copy.

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So you feel good. You feel good for the NFL. Do you feel good for the XFL launching in February? Like there

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Relaunching? I mean, by, by that time, I think the higher ups should have gotten a grasp or what we need to do. You know, as far as the pandemic is concerned. So as time goes on, I think, I think it's going to rock. It's gonna rock out

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In February if they go ahead.

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Of course, of course. Any, any, any sports going on right now during these times I'm watching. That's awesome. That's good to hear.

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So what's your basically said what you've basically said, you alluded to, you don't want to take any risk. You don't want to take any opportunities away from anybody else. What if they call, what if someone calls the same thing? It's still not see you still say now.

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Yeah, of course. Of course.

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Besides, besides, has there been anything else that has weighed into your decision to stay away from the game besides not taking away opportunities from people or

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No. That's enough. Wow. Hey, that's enough taking, taking, taking food off someone else's plate that actually needs it more than I do is enough to sit my ass down.

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I love it. I love the humility. I love it. I love all of it. What do you, what are your plans going forward for your, your post NFL post football career? Then what are you doing now?

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A little bit of everything stuff with NFL films, stuff with HBO leads, report ESPN, and your SIS is continuously coming in, but I don't want to be in a position of, of where I'm in a structured environment environment and just stuck and having to be PC. I'm still allowed to be Chad and be myself and enjoy different average, different ways and different avenues to obviously just make money at all. Nothing too controlling where I have to be like, Oh, it's like being an NFL again in a controlled environment. Like, no I'm having fun. And the plan fee for smoking cigars, eating, McDonald's

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Still eating. Mcdonald's still eat.

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Nothing's changed. Yeah.

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I keep telling people that I'm like, you know how many calories are in a McDonald's cheeseburger? Chad Johnson talks about it a lot. How, how it's one of the lowest calorie foods you could actually eat. Surprisingly. How did you discover that? I need to know how you discovered this. I didn't discover it. It discovered me

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As a kid, man. You know, you brought me some things that just never changed. And that was one of them that I never did. Just never did.

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Awesome. Awesome. All right, Chad. Well it's been about 10 minutes. We appreciate your time.

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Appreciate it. Alright. You guys be safe too, man. You've got to be safe out there. I love you guys.

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Vegas OD makers are keen. They're counting on the XFL to come back. The current odds are yes. Plus 300, no negative 500. I'm not too good with odds. That aren't point spreads. I just, I don't know about the plus hundred. I don't know the I'm sorry. I'm kind of, all I know is like we took one, one year in Vegas. You, me, Mike, we took Cleveland to win the series. We were at the wrestling event. We're at money in the bank. We got word of vacation. Then Cleveland did come back. Three, one deficit that we want some money that night we knew. I know about point spreads. I don't know how the plus 300 works or the negative 500 works. So

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Is this too complicated? This is too complicated in our other call, I didn't even really read through it.

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It kind of is it kind of is. But I think what, what the basic point is, is like the odds are against Vegas is saying the odds are against the XFL playing in 2021, both you and I don't think that's the case, especially with COVID going forward. I would honestly take yes. Plus 300. I would honestly take the yes. Plus 300 in Vegas. I feel like that's a better bet. I feel like you're going to make more money with a yes. Plus 300. I think the points are on your favor on your side. But if it doesn't come back in 2021, Vegas does like the idea of it coming back in 2022, where you would basically the money you would bet on a, on a 20, 22 return and Vegas cuts in half. If you just say yes in 2020, no, in 2021. Yes. And one 20, 22, your odds it cut in half.

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And meanwhile, your odds also get cut in half for no in 2022. But then of course, the next year after that is 2023 and the odds go back up that there will not be a next NFL season in 2023. And I think that if that, if they don't get it, if they don't get it back before 2022, it's not coming back, it's not coming back, but I don't see why I don't see why that wouldn't be the case. If they spent $15 million on this thing, why they wouldn't bring it back, at least in 2021, would you take the odds and for 2021 then?

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Well, yeah, I mean, Vegas has gotta be so thirsty for, you know, any sort of action right now. I mean, if they were doing like marble racing and the Nathan's hot dog eating contest, you know, you figure they gotta be a, you know, a football league backed by the rock has gotta be the rock in others, you know, Danny [inaudible] you gotta feel like that that's got a better shot of, of going then in 2021 or 2022, for sure. I mean, I think, I think it's February 20, 21. I think if they don't have it, it's done. I think if they rush it, they shouldn't. I think that is the target goal. And I think, I mean, I just think all the pieces are in place, the college stuff. I mean, I was even reading articles this week where they were talking, you know, I know we talked last week about spring ball, you know, people are so down on that, even happening, how would that even work? So, I mean, I don't, I don't know if the NFL does it, I mean, I don't know we were talking about all these XFL guys being signed and stuff. I mean, who knows if it even goes through? I think I would, I would take whatever odds on February, 2021. I feel really, really confident about that. Especially with everything getting locked up with the sale. Now

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It's interesting. You talk about the college, a college game because of course the the, I think it's the pack 12 and the big 10 have announced they are not playing in fall. They're shooting for the spring or the sec, the ACC and big 12 said, they're all going to go conference only starting to September 26th and lane Kiffin says those conferences where players exist under that rule where they're not coming back for spring ball, those players should be allowed to transfer without penalty. What do you think?

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Well, I mean, I'm not, I, I famously, well, I didn't famously, I failed. I failed. I went to Gonzaga university. We didn't have a football team. You know, my knowledge of college football is not the greatest. I mean, you tell me what's the point of doing an inner conference, which I'm a call it with email. I mean, I know that all I know with college ball is there's a lot of bowls. Here's the Fiesta bowl. There's the orange bowl, there's the Apple cup. But I mean, what's the point of doing that? If it's only going to be 10 teams and conference, is there a point than just, you gotta fill, put butts in seats and MTV stuff to watch?

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I don't think there is a point because you're not going to have balls. You will not have a bowl season. If the big, if the big 10 in the pack, 12, the two teams that are always slated to play in the Rose bowl pending any college football playoff overriding factors, the big 12 big 10 champion, the pack 12 champion for years have been the representatives to go to the Rose bowl. And that's, you know, these bowl games are massive, massive cash cows for the colleges. They help support so many other different sports. And it's just a domino effect where I don't see a situation where bowls are going to, to occur with just sec, big 12 and ACC teams. That's just not going to be a situation. And you also have to take in the demographics to college football bowls. You could, you have these bowls in California that are going to be like, well, we're waiting for science to make sure it's clear before we allow these big events.

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So you're not going to have a Rose bowl of COVID still out of control. You're not going to have the bowl that happens in San Francisco at a, I think it's 88 at and T park Raimi. It's called something different. Now. I don't really pay much attention to the San Francisco giants. I'm not a big fan of the giants. So you have these bowls depending on their locations like Texas and Florida, what's blowing up with COVID cases, still these demographics on where these bolts take place. What are you playing for? If you go and go through college, football's football season, one of these conferences. Yeah.

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Some may ask devil's advocate, whether it's the XFL plane for, and whether it's a different

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Other they're playing for the love of football.

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Well, I'm just saying, I mean, I totally with you. I just, I just making a joke, but you know, I mean, I just don't know what the point is. I mean, even the stuff, and I'm not following the MBA, but you know, we did like the half a season thing and then it's like the playoffs now. But I mean, is that really a thing? I mean, there's an asterisk on all of that, right? I mean, isn't there a NHL, I mean, isn't there asterisks on all these

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I don't, I don't think so. I mean, I think there's more of an asterisk on 2017 world series title than there is on whoever wins the world series this year. You think? So? I said it, I said it.

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Yeah. I, I pick up that shade with her on it.

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Yeah. I'm throwing shade at Houston. We have a problem. And I know you're tired of hearing that, but it's not going to go away. It's not going to go away,

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But, but I'm serious. Right. You know, you do the XFL thing, right. Eight, 10 weeks, 12 weeks. That's a thing. Right. It's a thing that's always been, that's what it was always going to be. It's a thing I just don't know. Like I said, with this herky jerky MBA stuff and it was on and off, I just, I think there's gotta be question marks and all these and all these different things. And so when it goes to college ball, I got to think it's the same thing, you know? Okay. You play it against, you know, that's like Gonzaga, right in basketball. We always killed in the West coast. And then we'd go to the, the March madness to get killed every time because we have like the worst division in the world. Right. We're playing against, I can't even remember all the

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St Mary's and BYU and Pepperdine I think is in your conference somewhere else. But yeah, I get your point,

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You know, and then we'd roll in and just get smoked every year. And it's well, you know, because you got to play, that's the point, right. Is to play and then to come together. So,

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Yeah. And okay. Well, all of her luck, what have you, what have you heard on the latest on all of her luck?

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I'm not, I'm really not happy about this one, Paul, you know, I heard that he's not coming back. That's what they say. They say both sides are done. It really goes against what I said last week. I mean, I really did think that, you know, with Vince out of the picture, you know, my only hope is in, obviously this is all the, you know, this is why we're called the Markcast, but you know, the Mark in me is saying that, you know, once this the lawsuit with Vince and everything, you know, goes through that, you know, he's just trying to get through that and then he'll come back. But a lot of sources are saying, you know, XFL is an XFL news hub, and a lot of other sites are reporting that just both sides are just kind of done with it, which, you know, it makes a lot of sense. You know, if you're someone that just stature and you just don't really need the headaches, I mean, what do you think about that?

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I mean, it would be good for the rock to try to mend those fences with all of her luck. I think the reason why I think the ultimate reason why all of our luck might not come back is because of the lawsuit. If he does come back and gain employment with XFL, a judge might go, well, see, you're back in, back in the XFL. So you really don't really need to Sue Vince over this money. And I think all of our luck's a smart savvy dude. He wants to get paid for basically taking this thing on his back and building it into the monster. It was because it was, it was, it was a monster, but it was a slow growing monster, much like this podcast, it was a monster, but it was a slow growing monster. And he was responsible for big, big portion of that. So why not get paid? Why not set out kind of like the old WCW contracts when the WW bought the WCW out and we keep going back to wrestling, but it applies here. Why would you, if you're, if you're like a Kevin Nastro Scott Hall, why would you take pennies on the dollar to come back to something? If you can just sit at home and potentially, and probably win a lawsuit against Mitsui man and make a bunch of money doing nothing

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Well, and do you think that there's enough? I mean, and obviously not that you know, you don't want the shirts change, anything that anyone's done, but like you got to hope that maybe there was enough stepping stones kind of put in place and enough other people there, you know, that even if it wasn't that, you know, the vision all along that it was going to be that there's enough stuff kind of set up now. I mean, that's, at least my hope is that, especially if they bring back like Jeffrey Pollock and, you know, a lot of the other staff that there was enough people that were kind of surrounded, you know, with all, for luck that maybe they could kind of keep it going.

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But I mean, let's just say you, you were hired for the XFL, like to head up the Seattle dragons video team, let's just throw the hypothetical out here and you were hired to do that. And then you got laid off, but then they announced someone bought it again. Wouldn't you be hesitant as a regular person to come back to this thing that already got shut down technically twice and put your career on the line? Well,

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Two different things we're here. We're talking about, right. We're talking about, are we talking about Oliver luck? Are we talking about all the staff? Cause I mean, all staff too, I mean, luck's got millions in the bank. I mean, what can you do whatever he wants, if, if I'm, if I'm someone I said last week, if I'm someone that was part of the staff, you know, if I'm part of the Seattle team, I mean, I knew a lot of the ticketing agents and a lot of the office staff there. I'm sorry, I'm boring. You so much, Paul, for the video version,

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I've been awake since like 5:00 AM. So yeah,

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I it's easy. You know, if I'm some of them, I mean, I just don't know. It's just been such a weird time. I mean, how many new jobs have been discovered by all of these people from March until now? I mean, it's just, that's that sad, right? It's sad, but that's kind of the truth is I think a lot of people are just unlocked down right now. And so, you know, if I'm someone that was, you know, freelancing a lot of the media guys and girls that were running a lot of the events. I mean, I think that if it was, if it was Joe Schmo or if it was someone, you know, that didn't have the track record, the bought it then yeah. I mean, I think you would be a little hesitant, but you know, I mean, it's Dwayne Johnson, it's Danny Garcia. I mean, it's all those guys, it's a ton of money behind it. I just think you gotta be a little bit more confident in that than you know, if it was other circumstances, I would be a little bit more hesitant,

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But I think, and then to devil's advocate point that you played earlier, maybe the pandemic has, has helped keep these support staff members unemployed for a reason. Maybe these people after the pandemic has calmed down considerably these people who know, well, I don't have any job or maybe not even, even if the pandemic has calmed down, they're like, well, I'm not doing anything anyway. So maybe I can go back to this. I can go live in Houston for 13 weeks cover, you know, the st. Louis Battle Hawks in the bubble. And I I'm picking up right where I left off and gauge it from there. Like if I'm an employee, I can go, well, this seems like it's going to stay around this time. Maybe I can, I can give years upon years upon years to this. So maybe that's a situation where they didn't have them. No one, no one got jobs because of pandemic. So they're available to come back and keep this thing, moving the machine move.

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I'll tell you. I mean, and I was talking with my wife, Dorothy about it. I know, you know, Dorothy, but for most thing, ah, yesterday and I said, you know, there's a ton of, you know, I'm, I'm following all the sites, you know, XFL newsroom, you know, we're, we got lucky to be put on their page. You know, it was one of the podcasts. I mean, there's a ton of excitement right now. I mean, I know that you're working on a lot of stuff. I, I just, I'm looking at a lot of XFL stuff all the time right now. And I mean, you know, writers and writers in email, and I know it's like subcontractor, freelance writers, whatever, but there's a ton of, you know, people that are being brought onto the sites right now, and a ton of content being written. And I mean, this isn't even, like we said, you know, sail goes today, you know, August 21st and there's already just a ton of energy.

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I mean, even more so I think than back, you know, I remember when they announced that thing you know, two, two years ago and to come out, I mean, I was all in and I had with her and it was like, you know, you could, you could go two months without Googling, finding anything about the XFL at all. And now it's like every day, there's just, it just seems like there's a lot more excitement now. And if the point is, if I was one of those office staff, if I was someone that had worked with it, I would definitely think it was worth my while to give, you know, what would it be six more months to this thing? I mean, just to ride it out. I mean,

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Maybe not even that, maybe not even that, I mean, we were talking about three or four months maybe.

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I mean, just to, just to see it go, I mean, I just think it's a no brainer if you can. I mean, obviously everyone's situation is different. I mean, we're, you know, we're lucky, you know, be working on other stuff and, you know, to have money coming in. But I think if you can, I think you've got to go for it. I think there's just too much excitement right now. I really do.

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I completely agree. And if, and again, if, if there's, if the, if COVID has prevented these people from getting jobs and I wish I really honestly, at the end of the day, hope that's not the case. I hope they're able to find work somewhere else, doing something else to help supplant their income that they lost because of this stupid pandemic. But if they, and I'm going to call it a stupid pandemic, I don't care. I'm editorializing. And I really don't care. If they're, if they're, if they're available to come back and they remember the system, they may remember the way it works. And maybe there were, there were ideas that they had that weren't listened to the first time around and now they're coming back and maybe that's an opportunity for them to grow even further in this organization. I think it's a win, win. I said that from the get go a small, small wager $15 million to have this supplemental football league that might end up only being the real football, the only real football we get this entire season.

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One thing van did want me to remind this about is that it's 15 million plus making everybody whole. So it's like another, it's like 23 and change or whatever that it's covering all those debts on top of it.

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What debts like ticket sales and

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Yeah, like a [inaudible], which is amazing to me. Cause I got, I got my refund. You, we were in Seattle, I got those first two games refunded, right. With, you know, when Inslee our governor here, we were really early about getting, you know, all the live events. They were going to do it without fans. They refunded a lot of those tickets. So I've had all my money back, even the money for my, you know, like my Jersey, but you know, there's, I still see people that haven't gotten their ticket sales back, you know, from season tickets, which I know that they legally haven't been able to do since, you know, now that all the sale and everything's going through and then just a lot of the coaches and stuff, you know? I think like Zorn was out money. I think stoops was out money.

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I mean, I think a lot of the coaches, Texas, a lot of the schools, so there was just a lot of other, you know, so it's at 15 million plus you know, just a lot, I think it was about eight and change of debt that was coming in. The other interesting thing before we go there someone posted yesterday I saw online was what do you think about taking some of those old, a 1.0 team names? Cause they own all of it now. Right? So maybe, maybe we you're talking about, you know, expansion teams, you know, maybe the San Francisco devils make it run again, you know, the Las Vegas Outlaws, Las Vegas,

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It was the Outlaws. Yeah.

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And then, and then there was like the Orlando rage.

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There was the hit-man remember the Hitman. Yeah, there was the Hitman too.

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I'm just saying. Yeah, but that was an interesting thought that I hadn't even put together was that I guess, I guess supposedly they own kind of

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That whole umbrella. Wow. That's an a, that's an interesting thing. And that kind of leads me to another thought. What if you don't, what if you don't make, if you're putting them in a bubble and if you're relaunching, what if you don't even name them city names? What if you're just like the battle Hawks are playing the dragons and there's no city names attached to them. Yeah. I mean, I could see that. I wouldn't, I don't know if people would appreciate that, but I could see that. I mean, people like you and people like me, like we're like, you know, dragons or wild cats, we would be like, Oh, well I wish they would keep the names of the cities that you bleed. Red and yellow man. Here's the red and yellow. And I do still, I've still never got to get over that claw logo. That was just terrible. It was Arenda. So with that being said, wrapping up episode two of the XFL Markcast for Reid Johnson, myself false answers. We want to thank you guys for joining us and we'll see you next week. Thanks.

XFL Markcast Episode 1 - It’s BACK!

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Welcome to the XFL Markcast, all right. So what we want to do, what we wanna talk about? I'm ready to go for the love of football. For the love of football, the XFL Markcast Paul with Reid. [inaudible] You're going to do that. That hurts my ears, bro. I'm going deaf. That's the only one I'm done now. I'm done. You're done. Now. You're done. Now. I like your backdrop. By the way you got the, you got the jerseys up. You have the autograph, t-shirt up. Why don't you have that orange jacket that you got when we went to DC, why is that not hanging up?

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It was a thousand degrees. It's in the closet. I have my exit fell on my videos on reverse. Now I have my XFL dragons, a flag coming in the mail. It was supposed to be here, but I got my license plates today. So I'm pretty excited for my dragon wagon.

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The dragon wagon...

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I got the custom front metal with the dragon on it. And then the it's got the dragons on both. So front and back I'll be set.

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So I have a confession to make. I didn't foresee this ever happening where we would actually do an XFL podcast. Cause I thought this is over. This is a rap it's dead. It's done. But thanks to the great one. The most electrifying man in sports entertainment, we are back. We're actually going to have, I've got all faith now and what they're going to do with the XFL.

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Oh, if my 65 year old neighbor is bugging me about it, cause he's seen the Bon TMZ then, I mean, it's, it's getting the publicity, you know, for sure. Do you?

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I think it's, and I don't know if you agree with me. I think it's a situation where you have a guy who played football, who knows the game a lot better than this and no disrespect, but a guy that knows the game a lot better than Vince. Right, man. How do you feel that's going to play off in the long term potential for the XFL?

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Well, first off, and I've told you this before I'm in text. I'm just glad that I don't have to give Vincent man my money ever again. So that's that's you know, that was always a big sticking point. Even honestly, with Dorothy, my wife was, she would say, you know, God, Vince is just like such a terrible person. And you know, you buy like the replica belts and you buy the chairs. And I buy like all this different crap from all this stuff. You know, we go to the WrestleMania, we went, spent, you know, a thousand dollars on WrestleMania tickets and she said, how can you, like, why do you like this? And I said, well, you know, it's him, but it's not. And it's all these other people. And it's, you know, local people and all of her luck and all that. And so I'm just glad first off that, like, I just don't have to like self justify giving Vince McMahon, my money ever again. And I probably will never give him my money ever again, not another dollar. And I've been a fan since, you know, I mean, you've been a fan longer than I have, but since, you know,

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Cause I'm like, what 10 years older than you are. I'm not, I'm not saying that like, like took it down, talking down to you, like I'm a boomer and shit. I'm just saying like I'm considerably older therefore, but you know, I've been watching a lot longer and I completely agree with everything you said so many people gave me shit when I went, when we went to D C they're like, why are you still giving that man your money? Yeah, absolutely. So I think it's a situation where if you buy clothes from a place and you know, they're building their clothes in a sweat shop, you feel morally dirty. Buying said clothes.

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And I think a lot of the fans did. I think a lot of fans had to justify that and had to, you know, make excuses or talk about other stuff to justify that. I think that Vince has such a negative connotation on him nowadays. And I mean, now it's, I couldn't imagine, you know, I couldn't imagine a worst reputation now with how they've handled everything with the XFL and COVID and WWE and everything. I mean, it's crazy. You know,

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I think what turned it for me was the John L over peaks when John Oliver did that expo say about the, the, you know, how they're, they're independent contractors, but they're not really independent at all. And that kind of like, you know, I heard the cm punk podcast and then I kind of, you know, I kind of looked the other way, but when Dean Ambrose basically basically just repeated what cm punk was saying. It's, it's clear to me that, that this was a situation where we wanted to support something we liked. But part of the apprehension with me was like, I don't really want to get that invested in this because a Vince doesn't have a good track record with football leagues and B he's not a good human being. No, definitely not. So this whole thing with the rock buying it, it's the right person. He's a positive guy. He's one of the hardest working people, if not, probably the hardest working person in Hollywood. And he knows the game and he's got a great team behind him, including his ex wife, his business manager. I think this is, this is a, this is a wind situation. There's no way this fails a third time.

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No, I don't think so. I think, I think he has so much positive. Well, I mean, you know, they were already talking about the rock running for president, and I know you don't want any more celebrities to run for president right now, but you know, I was reading an MSN article that they did the interview with the rock the other day, you know, his last, that Jumanji movie made like $750 million. I mean, it's just stupid money for just, you know, that was like the SQL for, you know, that was like Jumanji the remake, the second one, and that made, you know, $750 million. I mean, it's just crazy. There's just so much Goodwill behind them. I just don't think there's any way that it doesn't matter.

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I completely agree. I a hundred percent agree. And I think that that's him knowing things and him having the team around him that he does. And his ex wife is super sharp. She, you know, she's a big reason why he is where he is, but I'm not taking anything away from his charisma, his ability, anything like that. But you have to give it up. Like Danny is a big reason why he is where he is as a business manager and now co owner of the XFL.

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It was her thing to begin with. I mean, that's what a lot of people said, you know, cause when it came out last week and I remember sitting there, it was so funny. I was sitting there, you know, every morning I get up and I'm like looking at my phone before Dorothy gets up and I'm in like all these fricking XFL, you know, Seattle crack era, not while I'm in the crack and stuff too for NHL, but you know, Seattle dragons and see sea dragon fans. And like the one that van runs, you know, the guy with the orange jackets and, and I see on there and it says you know, the rock buys the XFL and I was like, this is such bullshit. Like this is total like, you know, this is like Mark central. And like immediately thought it was the onion or some shit, no, I did.

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I did. I got there, there was no freaking way. And you know, you see these people and they're like, dude, quit trolling us. Like they did that. And so I go, let me go, you know, cause you can Google XFL on any given day. And there's not that many new stories that come up. And I went on there and I Googled XFL and I said, Holy God, you know, it was like TMZ. And I thought, this is crazy. This is absolutely crazy. So Oh. But it was the point was, was that he was getting all the, all the publicity out of it, but it was Danny's idea. She was the one that wanted to do at the talked him into it.

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Yeah. Do you think, and that goes to another point about Vincent van, does this cause like a little bit of a, an issue?

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Well, we talked about that cause he, so that, you know, cause it happened last Monday and then that Monday night Rob was when they did like the raw underground and all that was Shane and the radians were in the toilet and all that. And we said like, there is no way that he's not pissed about this. Just super. I just couldn't imagine how frustrated he had to be.

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I mean the, the backstage reports, you know, said that he was visibly upset by this. And I think it, I think what added the salt to the wound was the fact that this is a guy that he helped make and he poured what, 200, $250 million into this thing. $300 million in rock just bought a 15, you know, I can tend to the price.

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Well, I mean, Vincent then that putting all that money in, I mean, that's what I never got. Why he didn't, I just have to think. And I was kind of curious what you thought about it, where, you know, when all this was going down in April and WWE was, that was right when they were trying to figure out the live event thing in Florida and they got the big deal from Santorum and they were able to do the live events. They were like looped all in that. It was like, zookeepers can keep animals alive. And then the WWE can perform. Like that was like the two, they were like written into the thing. But I had to think that Vince was just like freaking out out of his mind and was like, I got to cut bait on something and you know, the board is going to kill me if I go down with this XFL and the WWE. I mean, that's the only thing they make sense to me why they didn't just walk down, keep everybody paid, you know, in the off season, you know, give it a few months. It just seems like he pulled the plug. I mean, what do you think?

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I think, I think the whole thing, you know, there's been reports, there were reports that there was a large financial donation from the pro Republican pro-Trump superPAC that Linda runs to, you know, the timing. I always say, I always say in these kinds of situations, you don't ever want to let the optics optics dictate. What's really going on in this case, the optics do dictate what's going on. It looks bad. It looks bad that the superPAC donates money to either was DeSantis or, Oh no. They bought TV ads in the market to boost the economy. And so DeSantis signed off the governor of Florida to Sante signed off.

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I say, I said, I said, Santorum, is that wrong?

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Yeah, Rick Santorum is okay. Sorry, this ANSYS, my bad does. Yeah. the Santas, all of a sudden said, Oh, WWE is an essential business, which we can kind of debate that all day. If we want to that it's bullshit. It's not really that fucking essential. I should probably not. We can debate that all day. It's not really

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No, but like I said, I just think that he, and then that was, I mean, that kept him in the $450 million, you know, they had a, you know, they have a billion dollars where the TV rights over the next five years between the two networks, but you know, it was like four 50 or whatever through Fox or whatever on smack. I mean they just, I just think he had to cut something, but I think it was, you know, obviously way premature. I mean, I think that proves it now.

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I completely agree. So moving forward in, in topic discussion, there's a good chance. We're not going to have the NFL this year. That's, that's looking more, I mean, college football is already suspending the pack. 12 said no football until at least spring, I believe the big 10 is falling. They're following their lead. Of course, the big 12 and sec, and ACC haven't made that decision yet because they've decided to kind of stay within their conference. But you see this move where it's like these, these college football conferences are canceling their football and there's a chance the NFL might cancel as well. Is the XFL the perfect sport to operate in a bubble and why?

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Oh, it absolutely is. I mean, I think, I just think the NFL is, is too big. I mean, you have some, you know, you think of the thousands of people that are involved in that, all the teams, you know, the one thing that's scary though, is I'm reading these reports now that you know, college is looking at operating in the spring and doing spring football and then that's, you know, and then we're back on. But you know, I do, I think it's perfect. They were already drafting everything, you know, the plans back in April. I mean, that's why I just, it made no sense to me. My events would, would be gone on this. And you know, a lot of people assume that he was going to buy it back in the first place, you know, when he was trying to just do the, like the Trump bankruptcy and then buy it back for cheaper. But no, I think there's no doubt that they can do, you know, you get the 400 people or whatever involved in that. I mean, if they can do it for women's soccer and they can do it for the NBA, I mean, I think you can do it for the XFL. I don't think it's that.

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And MLS too. They did it for MLS as well.

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Also, you got to think about it too. And not that this is a good thing, but the salaries for those players are so much lower. Right. And not that you know, and obviously we would like to get to a point where they get paid, you know, that it's competitive to, you know, if you're trying to draw people versus, you know, like the XFL or the NFL or whatever, but I mean, that's a long way away, but you know, it's like, you're not going to pay Russell Wilson, you know, $25 million to go sit in Houston at a hotel room for a, I mean, I just don't know if that's possible. I just don't know. I mean, do you, you know, way more about this stuff than I do,

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I do. I don't see that happening. I think, you know, you have people that have families and you really, for example, MLB, you know, they're there, they're not in a bubble. MLB is not in a bubble. NHL is very much is kind of in a pseudo bubble where it's half where they, they're only playing at select venues where MLB is playing, you know, they're staying division, they're staying in division. And then they're saying, okay, if you're in the ALS you play an NLS team, you played the teams, you don't play another team from another division or a national league West team until the world series until the ALCF, then we'll start seeing how everything's going. And then we'll start thinking about, you know, New York, the Yankees going to for let's, let's just, I'm thinking, okay, Oakland athletics are now in first in the AOL West.

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Let's just say the athletics and the Yankees are playing for the LLCs. You're not going to see those two teams play in the regular season, but there's optimism that during the playoffs we'll have a better handle on this. So you can have that cross country travel and not really worry about cases. So my, my, my now the thought I'm going through now is does an NFL player who coming up and being a free agent who didn't get to play this season. And there's a big talk. There's, there's always a, an aura around players that are in their last years of their contract. They play to another level to get that, get that next payday. If you're in the last year of your contract and you don't get to play in the NFL, do you go to the XFL and why?

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I, you know, I think plain, just plain. I mean, it, it just depends on the money. I mean, I hope that I hope that rock and, and them, and the team can be a little bit more competitive with pay. I mean, Vince was so tight with the money. I mean, it was crazy. I mean, they were making like 70 grand or whatever for, you know, and I know it's over the course of like three months, but I mean, you know, I think there's plenty of people in America that would take 70 grand to work three months, but you know, it just, he just can't compete. But I don't know. I mean, I think you, I think you definitely could. I mean, I definitely think they're going to attract the college players that can't play, you know, they got screwed out of the year that people need tape.

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I mean, that was the whole argument to begin with. Was there were these guys that had been left behind that didn't get pulled up and then, you know, they had star making performances, you know, and, you know, ended up being, you know, that was the whole question about the XFL was, you know, are we going to have stars? There's no stars. I mean, five weeks in people had stars. People had, you know, there was team leaders and there was drama. I mean, it was, you know, just because you don't know people the first week doesn't mean you're not going to know people by week four or five or six, you know, moving through the year.

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Right. And I mean, we were there at, we were there at Audi field in D C. And we saw, you know, we saw Cardel Jones, basically we're sitting, I, I, at some point during that game, I was sitting there wondering why is Cardel not a backup on an NFL team,

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But then you saw a week, two and three, and then you realized,

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I realized why Cardell was not a backup like against your boys. They look pretty good. And by the way, I want to shout out the 1940, 1940s era spy that sat next to us during the X, there was a guy remember that you saw recently, I feel, I forgot. I totally forgot. I was looking through my old pictures of like, Oh my God, I forgot the spy.

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That was such an electric, just go in there. I just remember how cool that was and just thinking like it did, I don't know, to be two years in and actually be there. And, you know, cause we sat, I guess, you know, to give context, you know, context, we sat, you know, row two for that game. And then we had, you know, you had front row seats in LA and I had front row seats in Seattle, but you know, to go all the way to D C to see that it really was, I mean, it was an electric atmosphere.

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Do you think it's more on the, on that note, do you believe that I saw something I F I kind of noticed they're playing these different games at soccer venues. And I thought that was a marketing idea that maybe wasn't overt to people that knew the game, the MLS stadium situation, for example, the dragons played at century Lincoln. Of course we know the Sounders play at century link Audi field in DC is where what is it, DC United place. Do you think that it was rocking? It was, it was a great atmosphere. And I think, do you think that like date targeted the soccer audience for this leak?

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I mean, I think they needed to do more of it. I think they did. And I think maybe they didn't realize, I mean, honestly I think they were probably just looking at smaller venues. I mean, I really do, because I mean, look at, you know, Vince had the opportunity to do that in New York and chose to do MetLife, which we all know is a huge mistake, you know, because he wanted to have that major. But I think if you were to put the guardians in, you know, I don't even know where that red bull stadium or red bull or whatever, what's it called? Red bull field or whatever it is, New York. I mean, I think that, that you would have had a way better turnout than the, than the 15,000 that were showing up at the 75,000 seat MetLife stadium. You know, I know how much you love that venue,

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A red bull arena, that's where they put them, but they did use the red bulls did originally play at giant stadium. Wow. But so, but now, now the red bulls have their own field and of course they, they couldn't put the guardians in where NYC FC plays because that's gangster stadium. Okay. So yeah, they, they kinda, they kinda missed, they kind of, I guess, missed going after that red bull's audience, but in that market though, the red bulls aren't really the team right now. They're kind of, you know, they're, they're the, they're the team that's been there forever, you know, for years, but the real team that kind of gets people excited in New York about soccer is NYC FC kind of like it is here in LA where it's, you know, the galaxy of one, five, six MLS cups, but most everybody in LA is an LFC fan. I'm trying to think of what I was going to say there I'll have to edit that part out. That's okay. Do you have anything you want to discuss

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Back to your topic about doing the bubble thing? And I do think, you know, where it's, where it's so much more tangible or, you know, attainable for the XFL, you know when they were in Seattle, we know the dragons were, you know, our friend Michael lived downtown. I mean, you know, they have all those guys full a man and, you know, they lived and worked right there. I mean, they were, you know, they bubbled the dragons right in Seattle for that whole time. And we, none of those guys lived here. I mean, it's not like the NFL where they have these players, you know, put down roots in Seattle or LA or wherever you're planning. But I mean, they brought in all those guys to play and I'm sure for those 20, 20, 22 year old, whatever people, what you just find down to Houston and do the same thing. I mean, who cares? Right? I mean, most of these guys, aren't probably don't have families and aren't as established, you know, with big, huge mansions and all the other stuff. I mean, you could just, I don't think they would care if they were at an Airbnb in Seattle practicing for the dragons or if they were in a bubble down in Houston or, you know, wherever you wanted to do a Florida. I mean, I just don't think it matters.

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Right. I completely agree with that. And I think, you know, it goes to the point, like they don't have families right now. There are some, there are probably some, you know, retreads that are about 29, 30, like Landry Jones that, right? Yes. Andrew Johns, sorry. I drew a blank there. Landry Jones, you know, he's, he's been established for a while. I do believe he's got a family. That's, that's that's something you have to take into consideration, but all in all, if you did, you know, you have eight teams. If you keep those eight teams and do a round Robin real quick, you could, you could essentially pull off, you know, a, a 12 week.

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So it's three months. I mean, it's three months. It's not a baseball season. It's not even the full, I mean, it's, it's, it's three months. You put, you know, you do a training camp on there in Seattle or whatever, you know, wherever they are, you know, you do the draft. I mean, they did that last year, you know, the draft and then you do the little mini camp and then they did the other thing. And then they went home for Christmas and then they came back and then, you know, you fly them down to Houston or wherever quarantine for two weeks. I mean, I just think you go for it. I just don't think there's that much different than, I mean, they did. They did the whole winter, all that stuff down there in December, they were down there. I mean, I wanted the road trip down just to go watch the practices. I mean, they did that for two or three weeks where they all practice and all the different high school stadiums down there. I mean, it's just not, you know, you add, I know, seven weeks onto that, but, you know, whatever, but you just extend that out. I just don't think it's that.

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But the XFL did make its Mark in being a fan friendly and cost effective to fans. So how do they market beyond that now to bring people in, to give a care about watching this on TV?

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Well, first off, so as you know, I'm not the biggest sports fan for anything except, you know, XFL and like you, Debbie WWE, you know, like, you know, simulated sports, but you know, we were looking at some of the crack in pricing the other day. We're not, we're not on the list yet to get seats, but they released, you know, like what the season costs would be for, you know, seats. Right. And I mean, we're looking like way in the back, you know, and I know there's a bunch of games. I know it's like 20 or 22 games or whatever, but, you know, it's like $2,000. Right. And you're like, man, like, that's, that's a lot of money to sit, you know, in the back of the thing, you know, at the climate pledge arena or whatever, you know, I mean,

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Yeah.

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But you know, the fact that we sat, you know, we sat front row, you know, 50 yard line seats, one to four and paid, you know, whatever that was 60 bucks a game. I mean, that's a hell of a deal. You know, you just can't be in it. And I had no idea, like I said, I'm just not a sports guy. I don't know what the Seahawks, you know, like, I mean, I watched, but I don't like I don't buy tickets, a lot of that stuff. And I just, I had no idea, you know, like going to Seahawks games, Dorothy went last year, you know, 150 bucks was in the last row at century link was like literally touching the wall. And it's just, I think you gotta go after that again. Cause I think that most people just, and especially coming out of this right now, people don't have $2,000 to drop on a, on the season of hockey,

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No way. So we've, we've discussed how, how things operated in Seattle and Seattle is very, it's a town, you know, that I lived in, it's very passionate about sports. It's you know, when that, when the, when the Seahawks won the super bowl, Holy God, downtown was, you just couldn't get anywhere. You just couldn't get anywhere. It was packed. I don't remember the exact numbers. It was almost a million people down there for the, for the celebration. MLS soccer sells out all the time, especially when Portland's in town. It's a city that cares about sports. That being said in a market like LA where no one really it's hard enough to sell the chargers in LA. And they're an, they're an NFL franchise. And maybe it's because LA has always been a Raiders town. One when the Oakland Raiders moved down to LA, then back to Oakland, the Raiders became LA team. Do you think that may be part of the selling point for this is to maybe relocate some of these teams, like the guardians, like the wild cats into different cities that will actually have some more support for it going forward?

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I do. And I think that, I think Vince was too stubborn about that. I think that he was intent on being in New York just because, you know, he's the big exec, Scott, all the, you know, the big billionaire buddies, you know, I gotta have a New York team. I got to have an LA team. I think if you put that team in San Diego, it's a no brainer. I think if you put, you know, they've been talking about putting teams and you know, that Antonio, I know the mayor of Birmingham is, you know, he's already petitioning the rock to like put the team in Birmingham and they don't even have access to the league yet. They were saying that on. Cause I went back when they were having the shows on before the games and like Ohio, whatever the whatever, the, the cow, not the cow, whatever. One of the places in Ohio had like the ratings through the roof, like a fricking sick share every week. And it wasn't even, and you're like, man, you gotta put, so I would be looking at that and I wouldn't be so stubborn about being in LA in New York. I mean, I think you can still be in California and go down to San Diego, but I just think New York is too hard on herself, you know, there's just way too much going on.

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So if you break it down the teams are of course, Dallas, Houston, LA Seattle in the West. And then in the East, you've got DC, New York st. Louis, Tampa Bay. What teams do you think are most likely to move or relocate? Possibly?

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Well, I think LA, I think, I think you, I mean, I don't even know the market down there, you know, that stadium taking an hour and a half to get there. Right. And you live in there,

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The stadiums in Carson, which is basically right on the edge of orange County. So what you're talking about is if you want an LA based team, if LA, if at the Wildcats had played at bank of California stadium where LFC plays, or if they played at the Memorial Coliseum where USC plays, or even the Rose bowl, as uncomfortable as the seating is the Rose bowl. If LA had played in any of those venues, their attendance would have been better, but I think they averaged maybe, maybe the stadium holds 27,000. They don't average 5% of the stadium filling up on the, on the Wildcat stuff. And of course I sold some tickets that I had bought season tickets for because I wasn't able to go. And my tickets were so good. People hopped on them because it was a good price and people hopped right on and were like, Oh crap, I can be front row right behind the goalpost.

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I'm going to, I'm going to go. Definitely. If it's going to cost only that much to take me and a friend to go see the XFL, but they didn't even fill up the 10% at any point in their seasons. So LA definitely would be one that like you threw out there, San Diego that'd be a great place to, you know, throw them in the Murph, whatever they call it. Now, Qualcomm, Jack Murphy, same thing, throw him in, in the San Diego stadium, let them play. Their New York definitely would be somewhere where you'd have to reconsider. But I think Seattle and st Louis have to keep their teams

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St. Louis. I mean the two, the two in Texas, I think if you got it, you know, they were talking about moving it to Orlando. There was a lot of hype in Orlando versus Tampa Bay. I mean, I know that stadium is it, you just, I just think visibility, you need to get away from these big cavernous holes where like MetLife, you would go and it just, you know, you'd have the first 10 rows or whatever, and then it just would just nothing, you know, I think you got it just for visual, you know, we would go to the DC and then I would watch the games, you know, having been at the arena and you can stage, you know, not that you want to steal too much from Vince McMahon, but you know, the idea of staging the crowds just to make it feel a little bit more alive, at least for that first couple, you know, the first season at least, but do it, you got to get away from these dead holes. I mean, you know, CenturyLink is big enough and we could, you know, we filled 28,000 or whatever, but I mean, you know, that was them not opening, you know, two thirds of it.

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Well, that's also, you have to take into account at Seattle. The fans in Seattle are rabid about their teams. Like they, you know, they, you talked about the crack and they were able to get enough deposits to warrant a team within 12 minutes that beat the record, which was Vegas by, I think it was two months in 29 days, which is ridiculous to me how, but not in a bad way. It's like ridiculously cool how much Seattle people believe in their teams. And I think Vince had a great idea to put that team in st. Louis for the same reason st. Louis is they're still kind of pissed off about what happened with the Rams, but at the, you know, that whole debate about st. Louis losing Rams, well, you kind of stole the ramps to begin with from LA. So they just got stolen back. So you got a situation where you can move LA down to San Diego. Do you really want to keep Dallas and Houston in those venues? Because let's be honest, Cowboys are huge. That might be a situation where you move that Dallas team to San Antonio.

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I think San Antonio would definitely be hot for it. I mean, I think that I think Houston was huge. I think Houston had a huge, I don't know. I mean, I think if Landry had there just wasn't, they just can never get their act together. I think that everyone thought that they were going to be the big, you know, they have all the games positioned and they have them in the big Thursday night had the season continue. They were in like the prime, Thursday night spots that were going to be those playoff deciding games. I mean, I think they thought Dallas was going to be a hot market and they just could never get their stuff together. I mean, they built, they basically retrofitted that whole stadium there for them, you know, the old, the baseball stadium next to, you know, in early Arlington park or right.

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Yeah. Park globalize park.

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Yeah. I mean, they put a lot of money into that to retrofit that I know they can do other stuff with it, but it was for the XFL to turn that into a football stadium. I mean, I don't think they thought it was going to be a stinker market.

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Well, because I mean, the Rangers don't use it anymore. They moved out of globe life park. So it was, it was kind of a situation where it was a stadium that no one was touching. So maybe you might want to consider keeping Dallas there, but I don't know, you know, it's just, it's just a situation where you can really expand this game by giving these teams by moving these, some of these teams LA and New York, specifically to markets where they would actually make a difference. You know, I don't know San Antonio or Austin, Austin would be a great place to do it. I know football's huge down in Texas. So yeah, that, that might be a way to expand the reach of the XFL without expanding the number of teams.

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Well, that's the thing is everyone's already talking about expansions and all that we got to get through. I mean, even the original XFL I think was on the three year plan before they were even, I mean, yeah, I know that, that we want to dream that, but

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We've got to think about a bubble situation where we can hold enough, we can hold. We gotta think about a bubble situation where we can hold these games reasonably in a bubble. And if you add teams, expand the league and add teams, you're expanding the bubble. And I think right now, if you have an opportunity to strike, when there's no football, you keep it eight teams and you make a bubble that's reasonable and manageable and you go from there.

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What do you think about your boy, Dan? The white one? They give the rock some advice,

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Dude. I, I, I think the rock would be foolish to not listen to everyone. Cause Dana, what Dana white did with the UFC is incredible. I mean, before Dana white got really fingers and elbows deep in the UFC, it was known as a, it was kind of, we watched those fights because they were just ridiculously dumb. You'd have guys punching each other in, in the, you know, in the growing like was there was no science or discipline behind it, but now there's like, now there's an actual science to it. There's actual strategy to it. And that's Dana white. So I think if you're the rock, you listen to everybody. Who's been able to make something like the UFC, which wasn't that successful people watched it because it was train wreck TV. But now it's a legitimate, I mean, more people want, I'm going to say this. I feel more people are buying UFC events than they are WW events. And I know he doesn't offer pay-per-view anymore, but if the WWE there's talk that they're going to go back to a paper view model because they're losing a lot of money. No one's going to buy it first and foremost

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And mistake. The only thing that's helped their numbers is the fact that they're not selling pay-per-views right now.

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Yeah. Because another thing about the book, I know what they're thinking. They're anything about the financial bottom line. They want to make more money because while the fans have gone down, the people that are still there are spending more money buying replica belts, things like that. The, the, the problem is is that if you have UFC and WWE where they're competing for pay-per-view buys, people are going to buy UFC. They're going to buy it over WDB nine times out of 10, nine and a half times out of 10, they're going to do that. So I think the rock would definitely just to piss fans off probably even more. I still listen to Dana white, cause he's, he's, you know, say what you will about his temperament, say what you will about other things that Dana's done. Dana's a marketing genius and he's he's he knows his sport and he knows what he's doing. And I think that we're the rock, listening to anybody to help grow his business. The rocks business will be smart.

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You know, I know there was talk about cause Dan has got his like fight Island or whatever is that, did that really a thing that they really is, that what they really did the other day. So yeah, they were talking about the rock going down and doing that with the XFL. I mean, personally. Yeah. I think that, that sounds awesome. I think Houston, it's a no brainer. I think that even in this big settlement, you know, they have a million dollars or whatever they owed to Houston, I think, right. That kind of that ship out. And then to be able to go back down and do that. I mean, I think that that's a no brainer to do Houston, but I do think it'd be cool to do that. The XFL Island, I would go, I booked my ticket,

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But would you, would you really think about Houston when you think about like covert hotspots, Texas is still booming. A little bit. Florida is still booming. California is slowing down again. You've got, you've got a situation where New York, as much as you know, we grown about how the guardians never had the attendance. If you were to do it at the red bull arena, you could have that small venue and it would, it wouldn't cost that much. Would New York be a more plausible situation for a bubble?

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I don't. I mean, I don't, I think, I think they have said they were going to do the championship game in Houston. I think they have such a relationship with them down there. I really do.

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But that that's Vince having that relationship. That's not necessarily the rock having that relationship though.

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Like I said, they wouldn't have written them in specifically into the bankruptcy to pay to absorb that, that they owe them like $200,000 or whatever in rent. I mean, I just think that you don't go out of your way to make that right. Unless you're trying to keep that relationship pretty, pretty solid.

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Okay. Let's just say, let's just throw hypothetical's to the wind. Let's just say that the COVID thing is, is something that scares them off from, from doing a bubble there. And, and again, I need to, I need to like disclose completely that even though Florida is blowing up with cases still the NBA is holding their bubble there. So maybe that, that just makes my point completely moot at this point.

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Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, I mean, I'd rather do it in Seattle too. Right. But I mean, I think you have to go where I just say they got a ton of space there. They got a ton in the fields. They can play out, they got a ton of practice fields they can use. I just think whatever they did with the whole practice camp. I really wish I had gone down there in December. Or I can't remember. It was late December, early January when they were doing the practices down there. I mean, they just, I just think you have it all. I think you have all the infrastructure already set up. I mean, I think you literally just, you know, hit it reset and do it again and just say whatever we did last year, we're just going to do it again and extend it by two months. But that's what I picked.

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Okay. I'll, here's a question.

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According to Michael McCarthy of front office sports, Fox sports, interested in re-upping their television deal with the league. Ha if the owners resuscitate the league from bankruptcy, of course we, we know that the rock and Danny are not going to buy this league to not resist resuscitated. Is Fox sports the right call there? Or do they, do they shop it around? I mean, I think it just depends on the clearances. I mean, that was the thing is they talked about the ratings the first couple of weeks of the, of the first season. And then they, they really did just go off a cliff cause they were on like Fox sports three or like the Osho or whatever. The, I don't even know Joe dodgeball. Yeah. But you know, they were on these things where I'm like, you know, I bought the DLIP YouTube TV or whatever for the 40 bucks, it's so expensive, like per month to do that, to watch the XFL stuff.

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But you know, it was at the point where I'm like, no one I know even has these channels. So I mean, it really is all about clearances. I just can't imagine in February and March again, if there wasn't content this last year, I mean the XFL was beating like the PGA and I can't even remember the other sport that was on at that time. You know, they were sweeping it and they were like, they, they, they gotta be on clearances where they can get where they can get eyeballs. And so Fox sports can give them a good slot, but you know, you got to get off of that, like FSU or Fs three where you getting preempted by stuff, you know? Yeah. Like corn hole tournament. Hadn't had one of my, one of my favorite. I wanted to bring this up on the podcast here. One of my favorite standup comedians right now is Andrew Schultz. And he actually talked about the XFL and why this was a great idea for the rock.

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If you guys saw this news, the rock bought the XFL with his investors for $15 million. That sounds like nothing. I don't know the details of this, but I think this is potentially a genius acquisition. I agree, but I don't know what, how it's going to work out. I have an idea. I have a theory. The NFL will not operate in the bubble for whatever reason. Maybe there's too many teams. Maybe there's not enough facilities to function that many games. Maybe it's just too big. Maybe the teams can't make enough money without the revenue from the stadiums who knows, but it looks like they're not going to operate in the bubble. And the sports that are not operating in the bubble seem to have a lot of difficulty stopping the coronavirus, spread baseball. You're seeing people drop like flies and baseball sucks has God is like, shut this shit down.

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Even baseball players like I'm opting out, right? Like you barely have to opt in to baseball. You just sit around the whole fucking game. Anyway, I think the rock and his business partner had an amazing opportunity to eat up some real estate from the NFL of the game of football, because they can operate in the bubble. If they do eight teams only think about it. That's four games a week, right? Eight teams, only four games a week. Matter of fact, if you want to bring it down to like the bi-week or whatever like that, you could even limit maybe more. Who knows? I don't know the exact math, but let's say for games you could do, you could easily do four games in one stadium. If you have two stadiums, you know, some of these places have like a practice facility and the main stadium next to each other, you could easily run that eight teams bubble for football, NFL shuts the season down because all the players keep catching Corona and they don't want to spread it anymore.

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The coaches are old and overweight and the amount of overweight, Andy recatches cronies fucking dead. Well, I mean, even yet just overweight players, all linemen are overweight. Yeah. But maybe they're in such good shape. That's the only thing I thought about. But the coaches aren't yup. Coaches look like shit. Yeah. In the same way. It's just no. Yeah, no one does nothing. So I think they could eat up some real estate for football. And here's the thing. If they do the upside is hundreds of millions. If they don't the downside a few million, 15 million. And if you're the Rocky or partial shareholder with your business partner, because his ex wife, them take all the costs, you are the face of the brand. You're synonymous with wrestling in and of itself. You come out there, do some mental opening intros or whatever it is. This is the XFL.

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You do everything. Vince McMahon couldn't pull off. Yep. I think that they could make a lot of money. And if they don't, the risk was 15 million, which sounds a lot to the four of us and to everybody listening, what sort of rock? Who's probably worth half a billion dollars. Yeah. 15 million is worth the risk or rock is like the most bankable star in Hollywood. He's like the only star has never had a flop was will Smith. Now it's him. Yeah. He, he I'm sure he was the producer on his football show, whatever the fuck that was, Playmakers, whatever ballers. I think he's this to him is like very low risk in terms of like 3 million or whatever

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And very high rewards.

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So that's what Andrew Schultz and his flagrant to coast. I think his name is AKA seeing, we're talking about when it comes to the XFL. And I completely agree with them 106.

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Yeah. I mean the risks first off, I don't think the Rockford with half a billion, I think he's worth like 360 million, which I know we're

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Wow. 360 million were to have a bill yet.

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I know we're splitting hairs, but I mean you know, and, and I do feel like the rock is probably how the flopper too, in his life. I mean, we all saw scorpion King. I mean, we all saw the tooth fairy too. Right. I did see the tooth fair, but you know it is now I think what some people are forgetting. I mean, they bought the league for 15 million. I mean, there's still going to have to put a bunch of money in, I mean, there's a bunch of salaries and stuff. I mean, the good news that they were talking, most of the staff, they sent out some survey that, of all the people that got laid off or furlough or whatever, when it all went bankrupt in April, like only 10% of them have been able to find work again. Which, I mean, obviously I know we're in the pandemic and, you know, unemployment and everything, but I think that you're going to have a good ability to bring back most of those people if they want to. And I do think that with, you know, I think if Vince brought it back again, I think people would have said get out of my face. But I think that, you know, you have all this new energy with the rock and Danny and everybody else. I think that there's a lot of Goodwill.

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So hypothetically speaking, if you were one of the boys laid off, you would be, you would not be interested in going back under Vince, but definitely interested in going under, you know, Danny and the rock and, and that Redbird capital group.

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I think it's a no brainer. I mean, I really do. I think it's an absolute, no brainer. I think there's so much Goodwill right now. I think the rock is on fire. Like we said before, I mean, it's just, there's nothing, he can't, you know, when did he, when he was on SNL, he was like franchise Viagra or something, you know? I mean, but that was like, that was his whole gimmick, you know? And it's, I just think it's, there's so much Goodwill coming in.

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Alright. Well, anything else you wanted to chat about on the initial XFL Marquez podcast?

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I do. I do have a couple of things. First off. I am sad that you did not comment on my shirt.

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I didn't notice your shirt long shirt.

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So it was, it was the loudest shirt that I could have worn to compete with your allow, that shirt that you wore at my wedding, your bright red shirt that you wore. And I wanted to bring on the nicest loudest shirt that I had, and we'll have to see what we have next week, but hopefully we can I gotta think of the bright red button.

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Oh, are we going to do, are we going to do this now where we're going to like, try to top each other with wardrobe choices because I can, I can, I'm I'm telling you, you're not gonna, you're not gonna win this one. You're not gonna win this one. I will pop culture you off this podcast with funny shirts and ridiculousness. Don't don't even play. I am the host of will housing. Yeah. I've got plenty of humor to throw around and plenty of loud. Maybe I'll pull that red, red, loud ass shirt out of the closet and wear it next week.

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I think you should. I think they would be good for the video. You really hated that shirt. It just was really loud. Is it all the photos in all the videos?

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Oh wow. Our first kiss. There's Paul, our first dance there's it was pretty bright. I'm not gonna lie.

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I do think we need to, right now I do currently every week. I think we need to do in all of her luck, a lawsuit watch and kinda kinda know know what's going on with that, because that's totally separate from all the sales and everything else. I mean, that's like all of our luck doesn't even give a shit about like the XFL anymore. Like he's out for bins for blood. I mean, it is, it is something fierce,

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Right? What's what's the latest on that. I'm going to Google it real quick. A week ago we've got a XFL news hub is reporting.

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Yeah. I love Mark. That's a fellow Mark. Mark is a fellow market. Yeah.

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Harry, what a fitting name for a guy who's following the XFL.

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I'm in D C we, we did. Oh, that's right.

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We did. Yeah.

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Marketing DC. Mark. If you're listening, you're not, but maybe eventually.

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So apparently in the latest filing based on a week ago, we've got a plaintiff plaintiff, which has all the luck says on consent. He wants an extension of time to file his reply memorandum to support the motion requesting that the court certify a ruling, an order for a prejudgment remedy. So basically he's just asking for more time to get his stuff in order to kind of just have the court say, okay, yeah, you, you you're owed this money and kind of skipped this whole trial process. But if we know anything about, about Vince, I don't think I don't see it as going away. I don't see us going away that easily.

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I know, but I mean, I just think of anyone that's got it

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By this. I mean, Vince Oliver got just so hard.

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No, I mean, I just, can you imagine like the amount of money he was making right. Doing college basketball stuff, and then, you know, there'd be probably, he was making like 200 grand a week or something during the XFL. And then to think that you have that locked in for five years, doing all this stuff and then get the rod pulled out.

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Yeah. I mean, he's not hurting for money as it is. He's he's well off, he doesn't need the money. I think it's more of a principle thing.

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Absolutely. I would be so pissed. I would think, you know, I mean, he put his reputation on the line, came this, built this up. I mean, if I was a rock, I would figure out how to get him back in, look at his hands.

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Yeah. I, I think that that's where all of their successes, when it comes to like building, building this around the soccer franchises and putting them in soccer, stadiums, all of those things. I think all of our luck probably had a bigger hand in than Vince did and I might be mistaken, but I see, I see all of her luck as someone who's a visionary and this was different. This time around was different. It was doing better. They had a better plan in place. And the first time around, I think Vince was way too hands on. I don't know if you remember how it was the first time around, but the storyline with Jesse Ventura and one of the coaches, it became way too kayfabe wrestling nonsense. It did. It really did. So when you look at the fact that like this was taken smart and there was a, an approach to this, and there was a solid marketing strategy, clearly that's Lux fingerprints. And I think luck is just kind of out now to, for blood basically, and to make sure Vince doesn't play around in this arena anymore.

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I think it's so sad. I think that all of the, I really do. I think thinking through all of the bad things that people didn't like about the XFL, the New York thing with the stadium, the LA thing, the cheap, not playing the, not paying the players any money. I think all of that stuff was Vince. And I think that all the stuff that people liked, the interactivity, the rules, the pricing of the games, you know, all that kind of stuff. That was all, all over. Like the soccer stadium, the soccer fans, all of that stuff. I think the cutting Vince, I think it's rhythm

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All that cancer that people really didn't like and all those little stubborn boneheaded things. I think that's all out the window now. I really do. So we'll do that every week. We'll tech check in and see what the latest is on the Oliver Luck lawsuit and see how that's going along. And you know, we'll talk about anything that comes up in the XFL week by week. And we'll bring in the latest news right here on the XFL Markcast.